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asianmyth

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proof of paul chua scam
« on: August 20, 2009, 07:13:18 AM »
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Bodybuilding association chairman charged for alleged bribery and subvention fraud 19.08.09
 

The chairman of a bodybuilding association was today (Wednesday) charged by the ICAC for his alleged roles in a bribery scam to assist a suspended athlete in competing in the 2006 Doha Asian Games as well as a government subvention fraud.


Chan Siu-man, 39, chairman of Hong Kong China Bodybuilding and Fitness Association (HKCBBA), faces one count of conspiracy for an agent to accept an advantage, contrary to Section 9(1)(a) of the Prevention of Bribery Ordinance and Section 159A of the Crimes Ordinance, and one of fraud.


The defendant will appear in Eastern Magistracy at 9:30 am on Friday (August 21) for transfer to the District Court.


The conspiracy charge alleges that between May 2006 and February 2007, the defendant conspired together with the secretary general of the Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation (ABBF) and a bodybuilding athlete for the secretary general of ABBF to accept US$10,000 (about HK$78,000) from the athlete.


In return, the secretary general of ABBF was said to have shortened or lifted the period of suspension of participating in any bodybuilding competition imposed on the athlete, and enabled the athlete to participate in the 2006 Doha Asian Games.


ICAC enquiries revealed that the aforesaid athlete was banned from any bodybuilding competition for two years as he had failed a doping test in October 2005 after competing in a bodybuilding championship held in South Korea.


The fraud charge alleges that between the end of 2007 and May 15, 2008, the defendant falsely represented in the annual return of HKCBBA for the financial year ended March 31, 2007 that the statement of programmes subvented by the Leisure and Cultural Services Department (LCSD) was true and correct and the amounts of actual expenses stated therein were genuine.


The defendant, with intent to defraud, allegedly induced LCSD to accept the annual return submitted as genuine and not to demand a return of subvention from HKCBBA to LCSD.


As a result of the above suspected false representation, the defendant allegedly deceived subvention totalling over HK$250,000 from LCSD.


The defendant has been released on ICAC bail, pending his court appearance on Friday.

   
 

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2009, 07:16:55 AM »
old news has nothing to do with us bb
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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2009, 07:17:48 AM »
So does this mean that Milos was vindicated and should be reinstated?  Speak on this Boob Chic

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2009, 08:50:06 AM »
So does this mean that Milos was vindicated and should be reinstated?  Speak on this Boob Chic

of course everyone knows what Rat(chua) was up to.Milos was the first one who point finger at him.But even before milos his own countryman Azman abdullah ifbb world champion took him to court for taking bribe to ensure his gold medal and drug test Clarence at world games.
whole Asian bodybuilding community should be thankfull to Mr Adil fahim for putting this filth away.
As of Milos i dont think he wants to be reinstated.i mean just to clear his name may be but for ifbb competition i dont think so.

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2009, 08:55:01 AM »
old news has nothing to do with us bb

not old news it happened yesterday, he will be in court tomorrow!
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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2009, 11:28:41 AM »
of course everyone knows what Rat(chua) was up to.Milos was the first one who point finger at him.But even before milos his own countryman Azman abdullah ifbb world champion took him to court for taking bribe to ensure his gold medal and drug test Clarence at world games.   whole Asian bodybuilding community should be thankfull to Mr Adil fahim for putting this filth away.

so now there is no reason for the ABBF to break away from the IFBB

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2009, 03:52:50 AM »
so now there is no reason for the ABBF to break away from the IFBB

once paul chua is behind bars.things will start to improve.

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2009, 04:22:27 AM »
PRO BODYBUILDING SHOWS A SCAM?!?

Who the fuck would have thought - groudbreaking news right here folks.!!!!

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2009, 04:27:16 AM »
I am just waiting and observing...

Nobody from the IFBB has even apologized yet...

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2009, 04:31:57 AM »
I am just waiting and observing...

Nobody from the IFBB has even apologized yet...

because they dont give a fuck - they rather see if this will just "disapear" - a statement also means that they recogrince this problem to exist - I wouldn't be suprised if Chick is somewhat tied into this - not saying he is just saying I wouldn't be surpised.

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2009, 04:36:09 AM »
I am just waiting and observing...

Nobody from the IFBB has even apologized yet...

Milos, do you think Ben Weider was aware of these bribes etc going on throughout the years?

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2009, 10:24:14 AM »
Milos, do you think Ben Weider was aware of these bribes etc going on throughout the years?

Ben was a very smart business man

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2009, 11:55:52 AM »
Milos, do you think Ben Weider was aware of these bribes etc going on throughout the years?

lol...oh hell yes.

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2009, 12:36:07 PM »
lol...oh hell yes.

X2, he was earning off them
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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2009, 12:40:27 PM »
I am just waiting and observing...

Nobody from the IFBB has even apologized yet...
Dear fellow felon;
we be sorry
our bad


there ya go criminal

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2009, 01:20:45 PM »
I am just waiting and observing...

Nobody from the IFBB has even apologized yet...

Apologize for what?  No one questioned whether you were right or wrong, it was your lack of following protocol and chain of command, and lack of providing proof of allegations, which is what you were suspended for....Chua could have been ousted a year earlier if you didnt open your big yapper and give him every opportunity to cover his ass...

You still dont get it.

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2009, 01:27:26 PM »
Apologize for what?  No one questioned whether you were right or wrong, it was your lack of following protocol and chain of command, and lack of providing proof of allegations, which is what you were suspended for....Chua could have been ousted a year earlier if you didnt open your big yapper and give him every opportunity to cover his ass...

You still dont get it.

Very good point! Milos intention was good but went about it the wrong way.

Chick can Milos be reinstated?
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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2009, 01:31:01 PM »
Very good point! Milos intention was good but went about it the wrong way.

Chick can Milos be reinstated?

CAN be....yes.

Highly unlikely

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2009, 01:34:02 PM »
CAN be....yes.

Highly unlikely

I am sure you are doing everything in your power to help an IFBB athlete Bob !


oh yeah right, Milos is not an IFBB athlete anymore..  so that's not of you "jurisdiction"  ::)

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2009, 02:00:27 PM »
Chua could have been ousted a year earlier if you didnt open your big yapper and give him every opportunity to cover his ass...

that's complete BS.  Chua had been accused of corruption many times before Milos.  The IFBB did nothing those times. and Chua was always able to intimidate the accuser into backing down, either via a libel suit or cutting off the accusers source of income.   Chua tried that with Milos, getting other Asian orgs to disinvite Milos from seminars, etc.   That hurt Milos financially, but he has other sources of income in the US that Chua couldn't affect.   Its likely that only because an outsider made these latest accusations that Chua wasn't able to wiggle out from under it, and was finally brought down.

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No one questioned whether you were right or wrong, it was your lack of following protocol and chain of command, and lack of providing proof of allegations, which is what you were suspended for

yeah, if you want to be a whistle-blower, be sure to follow protocol.  We don't want to make it easy for you to point out our corruption.

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2009, 03:27:32 PM »
Apologize for what?  No one questioned whether you were right or wrong, it was your lack of following protocol and chain of command, and lack of providing proof of allegations, which is what you were suspended for....Chua could have been ousted a year earlier if you didnt open your big yapper and give him every opportunity to cover his ass...

You still dont get it.

You are so full of shit.  It is the easy around the fact that the IFBB, Chua and whoever else are a bunch of crooks and do so many things illegal its unreal.  YOU are on here trying to justify there position and instead of the IFBB admitting to anything wrong they suspend Milos.  What a fucking joke of an organization (not really an organization but a club for morons and ass-kissers).  No wonder you are the way you are.  You have a lifetime position with the IFBB cause no way in the world would they be able to find someone who would lower their standards and basically throw integrity out the window like they have found with you.  Unreal.  Whats funny is how you believe you are right. 
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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2009, 04:01:43 PM »
glad i didn't see OJ kill people, cause there is no way i could have proved it to America all by myself after i pointed it out.

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2009, 04:35:47 PM »
Apologize for what?  No one questioned whether you were right or wrong, it was your lack of following protocol and chain of command, and lack of providing proof of allegations, which is what you were suspended for....Chua could have been ousted a year earlier if you didn't open your big yapper and give him every opportunity to cover his ass...

You still don't get it.

do u ever listen to yourself.how irrational and unreasonable u sounds.No one could do a thing against Rat(chua)he was well protected by Mr Ben Weider.he would still running his dirty business today if Ben had not passed away.
u r so Hippocratic one way u said u have no business with armature wing of ifbb and on the other hand u sounds so deeply involved in it.
let me give u a piece of advise stop posting here u exposing yourself and the picture coming out is not so pretty.u could loose ur job cuz so many people already talking about ur nonsense attitude.

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2009, 04:45:33 PM »
that's complete BS.  Chua had been accused of corruption many times before Milos.  The IFBB did nothing those times. and Chua was always able to intimidate the accuser into backing down, either via a libel suit or cutting off the accusers source of income.   Chua tried that with Milos, getting other Asian orgs to disinvite Milos from seminars, etc.   That hurt Milos financially, but he has other sources of income in the US that Chua couldn't affect.   Its likely that only because an outsider made these latest accusations that Chua wasn't able to wiggle out from under it, and was finally brought down.

yeah, if you want to be a whistle-blower, be sure to follow protocol.  We don't want to make it easy for you to point out our corruption.

Weve been down this road already, Tim....I dint know anything about how many times this was brought up, and by who, etc...

What I do know, is that you have to follow the chain of command and protocol, which Milos didn't....this inturn, let the door open for his suspension. That was MILOS' own fault....he could have used his resources and gone to Manion, etc. He also had opportunity to provide proof of his allegations, he failed to do so....mostly because he drew attention to the matter (and to Chua) before getting his ducks in a row...


Milos has likened what he saw to a "murder" taking place....using that analogy, that would be akin to witnessing a murder, then killing the perpetrator, then trying to convince the jury that you're innocent of murder yourself.  It's called "due process"....even though you witnessed a crime, taking your own actions might cost you in the long run, as it has Milos.

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Re: proof of paul chua scam
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2009, 05:51:15 PM »
Milos has likened what he saw to a "murder" taking place....using that analogy, that would be akin to witnessing a murder, then killing the perpetrator, then trying to convince the jury that you're innocent of murder yourself.  It's called "due process"....even though you witnessed a crime, taking your own actions might cost you in the long run, as it has Milos.

 :o  ???  :o  ???

killing the perpetrator?   how is distilling justice personally, as being the judge, jury, and executioner, the same as reporting the crime?

basically what you're saying is publicly reporting the crime is taking justice into your own hands, that if he were civil, he would have quietly reported the crime so there wouldn't be any bad publicity.