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Sen. Joe Lieberman Says Health Care Needs to Wait; Warns Against Using "Nuclear Option" - Video 8/23/09
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One more uninformed dolt we can ignore.
LEt's just hope that the woefully uniformed don't fall for the propaganda spread by those wishing to hurt america's chance at health insurance relief.
Conservatives determined to prevent Obama from succeeding understand that their best chance is to frighten poorly informed voters historically susceptible to conspiracy theories – particularly in rural states far from centers of power.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/08/20/town_halls/index.html
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We should have waited on healthcare until the recession ended. Obama knows he has 1-1.5yrs to pass his leftist agenda, thats why he is pushing all these things so fast.
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We should have waited on healthcare until the recession ended. Obama knows he has 1-1.5yrs to pass his leftist agenda, thats why he is pushing all these things so fast.
Anyone with any sense whatsoever understands that without a good economy you cant do health care. Its a joke and only the hardcore partisans on the far left ignore this fact.
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Anyone with any sense whatsoever understands that without a good economy you cant do health care. Its a joke and only the hardcore partisans on the far left ignore this fact.
No they just look back in history and see all the shit FDR did when the country was in the the great depression and think they can pull the same thing. In reality WWII is what pulled this country out of it, not all FDR's programs.
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No they just look back in history and see all the shit FDR did when the country was in the the great depression and think they can pull the same thing. In reality WWII is what pulled this country out of it, not all FDR's programs.
I guess some people will believe anything if it supports their prejudice.
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I've waited 20+ years of lieberman's health care solution. it never arrived.
Now, he arrives with talk of why obama's plan sucks. There's still no lieberman plan, though.
The sink is shipping. These guys don't have any plan for making it to shore, but they can't stop shitting on your rowboat idea. there comes a point where america will support the best plan on the table. For the repubs and lieberman, the plan is "leave everything how it is". That's not working for more americans each day.
Their downfall, and the reason obama will win, is that they aren't doing anything but sitting on the counch whining. no alternative, better plan.
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I guess some people will believe anything if it supports their prejudice.
It's called having an understanding of history, which you apparently don't have.
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No 240 - sometimes doing nothing is better than "something".
Obama is not going to get what he wants without either a massive loss in 2010, or a complete re-write of the bill to not include the public option.
Either way, he will look like a failure - to either his base, or to the inde's.
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exactly 240 acting simply for the sake of acting is how we ended up with iraq and the stimulus bill, you want our health care system to end up the same way?
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exactly 240 acting simply for the sake of acting is how we ended up with iraq and the stimulus bill, you want our health care system to end up the same way?
We won in Iraq, didn't we?
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We won in Iraq, didn't we?
LOL dont be a dip shit you fucktard
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We won in Iraq, didn't we?
240 -with his usual spin and avoiding the obvious.
Making a problem worse for the sake of "doing something" is insane.
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LOL dont be a dip shit you fucktard
DOW is about to hit 10,000. Stimulus seems to be working, eh?
We declared war in Iraq, our companies won the first oil bid, and our bases rock.
Sounds like the Bush White house quote of "doing nothing is not an option" was right on. beside guys, FOX news told us you never question a president during war-time, remember? You guys need to wait until the afghan war is over to critize obama.
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DOW is about to hit 10,000. Stimulus seems to be working, eh?
We declared war in Iraq, our companies won the first oil bid, and our bases rock.
Sounds like the Bush White house quote of "doing nothing is not an option" was right on. beside guys, FOX news told us you never question a president during war-time, remember? You guys need to wait until the afghan war is over to critize obama.
240 - your nonsense knows no bounds. This is not about Bush or Palin. Your magical messiah won the presidency to fix the problems of Bush, and now when he turns out to be a complete flop, you resort to blaming Bush. Ridiculous.
You contradict yourself within your damn statement!
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DOW is about to hit 10,000. Stimulus seems to be working, eh?
We declared war in Iraq, our companies won the first oil bid, and our bases rock.
Sounds like the Bush White house quote of "doing nothing is not an option" was right on. beside guys, FOX news told us you never question a president during war-time, remember? You guys need to wait until the afghan war is over to critize obama.
so you think bush did a great job now do you, Ill quote you on that you dip shit again this is why you get no respect on here and I suspect in real life.
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so you think bush did a great job now do you, Ill quote you on that you dip shit again this is why you get no respect on here and I suspect in real life.
mahn, take a valium, i'm just having fun.
Bush was right about iraq, in the bigger sense. we needed the bases, the oil was nice. and the wars saved our asses in 2001 when ecnomy was about to drop following dotcom bust.
Maybe obama will be right. ya gotta wait 8 yers to find out.
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Hey Tony - do you have health insurance yet?
There's no rush right. I mean if you wrap your car around a tree and can't afford to pay the bills (you can't even afford insurance) then you'll just get free health care from one of those govt programs you can't actually name and the rest who actually have insurance will absorb the cost by virtue of higher premiums.
Great Plan
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Hey Tony - do you have health insurance yet?
There's no rush right. I mean if you wrap your car around a tree and can't afford to pay the bills (you can't even afford insurance) then you'll just get free health care from one of those govt programs you can't actually name and the rest who actually have insurance will absorb the cost by virtue of higher premiums.
Great Plan
I choooooooose to not have insurance right now JUST LIKE I CHOOOOOOOOOOSE TO SEEK FULL TIME EMPLOYMENT WITH BENEFITS....you know one of those many many options out there for uninsured ppl that you want to fund...why not let me sit on my ass and recieve healthcare? well for one its not your place to pay my way dumb ass I appreciate the offer though. ;)
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I choooooooose to not have insurance right now JUST LIKE I CHOOOOOOOOOOSE TO SEEK FULL TIME EMPLOYMENT WITH BENEFITS....you know one of those many many options out there for uninsured ppl that you want to fund...why not let me sit on my ass and recieve healthcare? well for one its not your place to pay my way dumb ass I appreciate the offer though. ;)
Stupid choice on your part
Either that or you must be a secret communist because you know if you face a catastrophic event that you can't afford you know you will receive care and the rest of us will wind up paying for it with higher premiums
Good Call
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Stupid choice on your part
Either that or you must be a secret communist because you know if you face a catastrophic event that you can't afford you know you will receive care and the rest of us will wind up paying for it with higher premiums
Good Call
It didn't occur to Tony that b/c of his blatant irresponsible behavior - he choo-choo-chooses not have insurance - the public will have to pick up the cost of his next accident.
That's the law here in this country. They treat people in emergencies.
I can see how that would get under Tony's skin, I mean we should just let unisured people in accidents die, including Tony.
That's what the market would bear out.
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I choooooooose to not have insurance right now
Really?
So if obama said "here tony, free health care for you", you woudl reject it?
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Stupid choice on your part
Either that or you must be a secret communist because you know if you face a catastrophic event that you can't afford you know you will receive care and the rest of us will wind up paying for it with higher premiums
Good Call
LOL why would you have to pay for me, unless im dead or severly injured I can still work and pay my own way.
Since your feeling so charitable though why not help me pay for my tuition this semester ill give you my address so you can send me a check if thats fine with you?
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Really?
So if obama said "here tony, free health care for you", you woudl reject it?
240 - you know what - some of us have pride in ourselves and choose not hav e our neighbor pay our way.
Myself, I would die rather than take public assistance.
Before I asked you to pay for my food stamps, I would take my ass up to the catskills and kill game for food. Ill get a few deer, a few turkeys, etc and be fine.
Some of us are not looking for others to take care of us. But sadly 240 - over the last year you seem to have morphed into exactly what the govt wants, a lemming looking to Obama to pay for everything for everyone.
You bought into the hype hook line and sinker and will have your hand out as soon as anyone else.
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LOL why would you have to pay for me, unless im dead or severly injured I can still work and pay my own way.
You'll work to repay....from your wheelchair or hospital bed...this ain't no charity kid. Pay up front or die.
Since your feeling so charitable though why not help me pay for my tuition this semester ill give you my address so you can send me a check if thats fine with you?
Is it your custom to beg for money?
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Really?
So if obama said "here tony, free health care for you", you woudl reject it?
ITS NOT FREEEEEE DIP SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Really?
So if obama said "here tony, free health care for you", you woudl reject it?
You should have learned by now that nothing is free
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240 - you know what - some of us have pride in ourselves and choose not hav e our neighbor pay our way.
Myself, I would die rather than take public assistance.
Before I asked you to pay for my food stamps, I would take my ass up to the catskills and kill game for food. Ill get a few deer, a few turkeys, etc and be fine.
Some of us are not looking for others to take care of us. But sadly 240 - over the last year you seem to have morphed into exactly what the govt wants, a lemming looking to Obama to pay for everything for everyone.
You bought into the hype hook line and sinker and will have your hand out as soon as anyone else.
What a fantasy world you live Mr. Rugged Individualist. hahahaha.
Why live on wild game in the Catskills, presumably on land you own...or else you'll trespass on a park or farm. hahahaha
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You'll work to repay....from your wheelchair or hospital bed...this ain't no charity kid. Pay up front or die.Is it your custom to beg for money?
LOL ill still work from a wheel chair decker being in a wheel chair or bed doesnt mean you cant work...
No not at all but if you feel like 18,000 ppl jusitfy giving health care to the entire nation then I thought you might be willing to help finance my degree :D I guess your bleeding heart only goes so far :'(
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What a fantasy world you live Mr. Rugged Individualist. hahahaha.
Why live on wild game in the Catskills, presumably on land you own...or else you'll trespass on a park or farm. hahahaha
The only reason you think it is a fantasy world is, you don't posses the skills to take care of yourself/survive if you had to.
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You should have learned by now that nothing is free
Even since Obama went down to Ft. Meyers, 240 has been in a love affair with Obama despite the fact that nothing positive came from it other than silly youtube videos showing just how silly most Obama voters are.
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Myself, I would die rather than take public assistance.
Seriously?
If you're without health insurance, and you're bleeding, you wouldn't walk into (a free) ER visit?
You would bleed out on the sidewalk in front of the hospital instead of walking in and asking to 20 stitches you cannot afford?
I find that hard to believe.
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Seriously?
If you're without health insurance, and you're bleeding, you wouldn't walk into (a free) ER visit?
You would bleed out on the sidewalk in front of the hospital instead of walking in and asking to 20 stitches you cannot afford?
I find that hard to believe.
I have been responsible my whole life and have enough money to cover almost anything. I went a few years without insurance and used the money for savings instead. I now have a crap load of savings, health insurance, etc.
Health inasurance is mostly based on fear. Most young people never use it and never have to use it. Of course there is a case and there, but its mostly a waste of money.
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LOL ill still work from a wheel chair decker being in a wheel chair or bed doesnt mean you cant work...
No not at all but if you feel like 18,000 ppl jusitfy giving health care to the entire nation then I thought you might be willing to help finance my degree :D I guess your bleeding heart only goes so far :'(
You're a monster.
Ok Mr. SipnPuff, you're already a burden on society b/c you're willingly not insuring yourself.
You're much worse than the 18,000 who can't get insurance.
You're a freeloader.
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I have been responsible my whole life and have enough money to cover almost anything. I went a few years without insurance and used the money for savings instead. I now have a crap load of savings, health insurance, etc.
Yeah, but that is 2009. Let's suppose it's 3 or 4 years from now, worst case scanario. Economy takes a dump. overhaul of $ system. Your services are rendered obsolete and your savings are reduced to toilet paper. You have bad luck, woman leaves you. You catch a few lawsuits. Slip and fall and break your hand, leg, arm, back, whatever. You get rear ended in traffic and end up sustaining a head injury leaving you mentally screwed up.
I mean, most homeless guys out there weren't homeless 30 years ago, ye know? There but for the grace of God goes any of us.
If bad luck hits you... you would still opt for bleeding out on the sidewalk as opposed to walking in for free healthcare that your tax dollars did pay for, all those years?
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The only reason you think it is a fantasy world is, you don't posses the skills to take care of yourself/survive if you had to.
I don't possess the skills? It's amazing how you uninformed folks immediately attack your opponents personally b/c you are bereft of any real argument. You are perfect fodder as tools of corporate insurance.
If you think the life of a mountain is the answer to society's problems, ....hahahahahahaha
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I don't possess the skills? It's amazing how you uninformed folks immediately attack your opponents personally b/c you are bereft of any real argument. You are perfect fodder as tools of corporate insurance.
If you think the life of a mountain is the answer to society's problems, ....hahahahahahaha
Everytime you post, I can only think, there is a village somewhere missing its idiot.
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Yeah, but that is 2009. Let's suppose it's 3 or 4 years from now, worst case scanario. Economy takes a dump. overhaul of $ system. Your services are rendered obsolete and your savings are reduced to toilet paper. You have bad luck, woman leaves you. You catch a few lawsuits. Slip and fall and break your hand, leg, arm, back, whatever. You get rear ended in traffic and end up sustaining a head injury leaving you mentally screwed up.
I mean, most homeless guys out there weren't homeless 30 years ago, ye know? There but for the grace of God goes any of us.
If bad luck hits you... you would still opt for bleeding out on the sidewalk as opposed to walking in for free healthcare that your tax dollars did pay for, all those years?
1. My business has been steady since 2002, with ups and downs like anyone else.
2. I diversify my assets so that if something goes down, someing else will probably go up.
3. My girl is a divorce lawyer and has her own $$$. Pre-nup in the works. We both want one.
4. I carry malpractice insurance and have a general liability policy as well as disability and auto.
I understand that you cant cover everything, but overall I have most of my bases covered. I operate on what is most probable to happen, not some scare tactic designed to get me into a cadicalla policy I dont or wont use in most cases.
Life is a gamble 240 - and you have to look at the odds.
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Everytime you post, I can only think, there is a village somewhere missing its idiot.
Zing.
Listen to fuckin Grizzly Adams here. If only we could all live off the land and trade our wares in totally free markets, the world would be right.
hahahahahahaha
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getbig is great, i tells ya.
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Zing.
Listen to fuckin Grizzly Adams here. If only we could all live off the land and trade our wares in totally free markets, the world would be right.
hahahahahahaha
(http://maaadddog.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/jesus-dumbass-blue_gargoyle.jpg)
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getbig is great, i tells ya.
it's something alright.
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One of the 20% has spoken.
Your sig is funny. Freedom isn't free...but your whole point is that it is...if you live like Grizzly Adams.
You're mind is so messed up you don't know what the fuck you mean. Delete your account and start over under a new name.
Spare yourself further embarrassment.
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One of the 20% has spoken.
Your sig is funny. Freedom isn't free...but your whole point is that it is...if you live like Grizzly Adams.
You're mind is so messed up you don't know what the fuck you mean. Delete your account and start over under a new name.
Spare yourself further embarrassment.
Decker, don't go away mad, just go away. You've lost it, take the rest of the day off.
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Decker, don't go away mad, just go away. You've lost it, take the rest of the day off.
Delete your account and start over. That's all you have left.
James.
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I would rather live like Grizzly Adams any day than be under the jack boot of the socialist utopia you vote for every election cycle.
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Delete your account and start over. That's all you have left.
James.
Oh I have plenty left,
No go get your shine box
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I would rather live like Grizzly Adams any day than be under the jack boot of the socialist utopia you vote for every election cycle.
That's an impractical fantasy. There is no magic in living like a hermit off the land.
You seem to think that b/c you pay taxes that you're getting a raw deal b/c you're financing freeloaders and illegals.
That's a private hell I want no part of.
Unless you do it all alone - make your own clothes, roads, money, car-you depend on other people.
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LOL ill still work from a wheel chair decker being in a wheel chair or bed doesnt mean you cant work...
No not at all but if you feel like 18,000 ppl jusitfy giving health care to the entire nation then I thought you might be willing to help finance my degree :D I guess your bleeding heart only goes so far :'(
Tony - you can't get a job that covers your health care now and you're (I presume) healthly and able-bodied.
Do you really think if you're fucked up and in a wheel chair or hospital bed that it's going to be any easier.
Let's not forget the 50k in medical bills that you can't pay.
YOU are the perfect example of why we need a public option.
Wouldn't you like to know that if you got in a horrible accident or were diagnosed with a brain tumor that you wouldn't be bankrupt or homeless (or having to depend on family/friends etc..).
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Oh I have plenty left,
No go get your shine box
Eldon saw Goodfellas and is passing off that brilliant work as his own.
Like I said douchebag, delete your account and start over anonymously. You bring shame to this entire forum.
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That's an impractical fantasy. There is no magic in living like a hermit off the land.
You seem to think that b/c you pay taxes that you're getting a raw deal b/c you're financing freeloaders and illegals.
That's a private hell I want no part of.
Unless you do it all alone - make your own clothes, roads, money, car-you depend on other people.
Decker- you are seriously screwed up in the head. If you seriously are perfectly fine with getting raped by illegals and freeloaders, than you have far deeper issues than anyone here on this forum is qualified to deal with.
Go seek help now.
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Decker- you are seriously screwed up in the head. If you seriously are perfectly fine with getting raped by illegals and freeloaders, than you have far deeper issues than anyone here on this forum is qualified to deal with.
Go seek help now.
You're the one pushing the illogical and impractical libertarian fantasy solution about roughing it in the woods on your own accountable to noone but yourself.
Please.
If you want an educated debate, make educated arguments.
Your hyperbole gets tiresome.
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You're the one pushing the illogical and impractical libertarian fantasy solution about roughing it in the woods on your own accountable to noone but yourself.
Please.
If you want an educated debate, make educated arguments.
Your hyperbole gets tiresome.
I said I would prefer to hunt for food vs. asking you to pay for my food. What is hyperbole about that?
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I said I would prefer to hunt for food vs. asking you to pay for my food. What is hyperbole about that?
What was I thinking. That's a broad solution with many applications.
I prefer the raped by freeloaders (was it?) and illegal immigrants option. That's quite an option too.
For some reason, you seem to think that anyone helped out by the public option is out to stick it to you personally b/c they are choosing to live a life of poverty and unemployment and underinsurance.
To me, that's crazy talk.
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Decker, where do you live? Just wondering because people that live in big cities are probably more likely to carry your liberal views on government necessities.
Healthcare reform is necessary. Its only a small minority that wants to leave the status quo. The left keeps making this a democratic plan vs. do nothing, which is incorrect.
IMO, it was more important to address other issues and to concentrate on the economy this year. The economy has stabilized but its not much better than it was when Obama first took office, we still have a long way to go and now the mounting deficit is horrendous. Healthcare should have been left for 2010. Obama pushed it because he knows he has the most power in 2009.
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You live in Wisconsin right?
Come to the Bronx or Brooklyn and you will have a completely different perspective on the wonderful results public assistance to people brings.
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I was in several small central Ohio towns this weekend and though things were more simple, the people seemed happier. I like living near the city but there's something to that small town atmosphere. One thing I didn't see were Obama/Biden stickers...anywhere. People in small towns in general rely more on themselves, their families and friends. They tolerate taxes to pay for local gov necessities. That was the original philosophy of our founders.
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I was in several small central Ohio towns this weekend and though things were more simple, the people seemed happier. I like living near the city but there's something to that small town atmosphere. One thing I didn't see were Obama/Biden stickers...anywhere. People in small towns in general rely more on themselves, their families and friends. They tolerate taxes to pay for local gov necessities. That was the original philosophy of our founders.
people with obama stickers wouldn't be on the road during the day, now would they?
They're at home watching the mailbox for their check.
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Decker, where do you live? Just wondering because people that live in big cities are probably more likely to carry your liberal views on government necessities.
Healthcare reform is necessary. Its only a small minority that wants to leave the status quo. The left keeps making this a democratic plan vs. do nothing, which is incorrect.
IMO, it was more important to address other issues and to concentrate on the economy this year. The economy has stabilized but its not much better than it was when Obama first took office, we still have a long way to go and now the mounting deficit is horrendous. Healthcare should have been left for 2010. Obama pushed it because he knows he has the most power in 2009.
I live in a small town and in Milwaukee. I have dual addresses b/c of my job-my employer provides me with an apartment and I work from home several days out of the week.
What is the alternative plan to the public option?
We have a couple of big insurance companies that control the health insurance industry. There is no real competition. Everything the right accuses UHC of being is true of private care - it rations care, it limits doctor choice and it regularly denies claims. What they forget is that without the public programs of Medicare, Medicaid and VA care, there would be no affordable private care. There's no money insuring old dying people and uninsurable sick folks.
Obama is doing what he has to do to pass this watered down public option for insurance. I don't care for the plan but it's all we have at the moment.
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You live in Wisconsin right?
Come to the Bronx or Brooklyn and you will have a completely different perspective on the wonderful results public assistance to people brings.
You are the king of anecdotal evidence.
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You are the king of anecdotal evidence.
Whatever chief.
By the way, I work for myself and can do whatever the hell I want with my time. its one of the freedoms of working for your own living.
You work for a firm or someone else from what i can gather and have spent 4 hours posting on Getbig. You just stole 4 hours from your employer and should give back half a days' pay from what I can gather.
If you have no problem stealing from your employer, its no wonder you have no problem stealing from other taxpayers.
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I was in several small central Ohio towns this weekend and though things were more simple, the people seemed happier. I like living near the city but there's something to that small town atmosphere. One thing I didn't see were Obama/Biden stickers...anywhere. People in small towns in general rely more on themselves, their families and friends. They tolerate taxes to pay for local gov necessities. That was the original philosophy of our founders.
The world the Founders lived in doesn't exist today. It was pre-industrial.
We have to and have adapted to change.
There is no Shangri-la.
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Whatever chief.
By the way, I work for myself and can do whatever the hell I want with my time. its one of the freedoms of working for your own living.
You work for a firm or someone else from what i can gather and have spent 4 hours posting on Getbig. You just stole 4 hours from your employer and should give back half a days' pay from what I can gather.
If you have no problem stealing from your employer, its no wonder you have no problem stealing from other taxpayers.
LOL!
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Whatever chief.
By the way, I work for myself and can do whatever the hell I want with my time. its one of the freedoms of working for your own living.
You work for a firm or someone else from what i can gather and have spent 4 hours posting on Getbig. You just stole 4 hours from your employer and should give back half a days' pay from what I can gather.
If you have no problem stealing from your employer, its no wonder you have no problem stealing from other taxpayers.
Is your business crumbling?
You spend a shitload more time on this site than I do.
You know nothing of my job or schedule and here you are making another solid point about my job and schedule.
Your rectum must be sore from you talking out of your ass all day.
And finally, your true colors shine - taxes are theft.
You're such a fucking tightwad you'd rather see people die than have you pay your taxes.
You're what's wrong with this country.
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Whatever chief.
By the way, I work for myself and can do whatever the hell I want with my time. its one of the freedoms of working for your own living.
You work for a firm or someone else from what i can gather and have spent 4 hours posting on Getbig. You just stole 4 hours from your employer and should give back half a days' pay from what I can gather.
If you have no problem stealing from your employer, its no wonder you have no problem stealing from other taxpayers.
Post of the Day !
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Post of the Day !
Die already.
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Ha ha asshole. I made 3g on Friday alone and am working a few deals where nothing is going to happen until later today. I work on a commision basis so it doesnt matter if I do my work at 3 am or 12 noon.
I got in the office at 7:00 am did what i had to do, and am waiting for a few other things to click today.
Have fun billing those hours fool. I hope you are not adding this time to your clients' time sheets!
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Ha ha asshole. I made 3g on Friday alone and am working a few deals where nothing is going to happen until later today. I work on a commision basis so it doesnt matter if I do my work at 3 am or 12 noon.
I got in the office at 7:00 am did what i had to do, and am waiting for a few other things to click today.
Have fun billing those hours fool. I hope you are not adding this time to your clients' time sheets!
You have no idea what you are talking about.
But why change things now? That's how you always operate.
You flap your lips, make an ugly baseless, generally anecdotal point and move on to the next thread to do the same thing.
You work on commission. hahahahahaha. Sweetalking clients? hahahahh
"taxes are theft" "the gov. out to get you" "the USA is a socialist country now" "democrats are communists"
You must be a great salesman.
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Die already.
meltdown
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meltdown
Take it easy Ozark. It'll all be over soon enough.
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Die already.
What a loving, open minded, caring, compassionate liberal you are.
You are just the type of person I feel comfortable making decisions for me, my family, and the nation.
And you wonder why people talk about death panels?
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Take it easy Ozark. It'll all be over soon enough.
How long until your Lithium kicks in ?
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What a loving, open minded, caring, compassionate liberal you are.
You are just the type of person I feel comfortable making decisions for me, my family, and the nation.
And you wonder why people talk about death panels?
I don't wonder who talks about death panels. I know it's you, Palin and the other 20% that just make shit up so you can get your way.
That's no mystery.
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How long until your Lithium kicks in ?
You wasted time, now time wastes you Eldon.
That's from Richard II.
I don't steal other peoples work and pass it off as my own like you did with Goodfellas.
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You wasted time, now time wastes you Eldon.
That's from Richard II.
I don't steal other peoples work and pass it off as my own like you did with Goodfellas.
Your Lobotomy didn't go well ?
Tell them you want your money back
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Your Lobotomy didn't go well ?
Tell them you want your money back
That wasn't funny in the other thread and it fails here as well.
Please lord, take his life.
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That wasn't funny in the other thread and it fails here as well.
Please lord, take his life.
you need help.
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you need help.
if obamacare passes, maybe he will be able to see a doctor...
...by 2019.
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You're a monster.
Ok Mr. SipnPuff, you're already a burden on society b/c you're willingly not insuring yourself.
You're much worse than the 18,000 who can't get insurance.
You're a freeloader.
mr. sipnpuff I dont get that reference?
how am I a burden on society?
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mr. sipnpuff I dont get that reference?
how am I a burden on society?
the day you have a catastrophic illness or injury you might be able to figure it out (I say "might" because even then I'm not really sure you'd get it)
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Eldon saw Goodfellas and is passing off that brilliant work as his own.
Like I said douchebag, delete your account and start over anonymously. You bring shame to this entire forum.
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Tony - you can't get a job that covers your health care now and you're (I presume) healthly and able-bodied.
Do you really think if you're fucked up and in a wheel chair or hospital bed that it's going to be any easier.
Let's not forget the 50k in medical bills that you can't pay.
YOU are the perfect example of why we need a public option.
Wouldn't you like to know that if you got in a horrible accident or were diagnosed with a brain tumor that you wouldn't be bankrupt or homeless (or having to depend on family/friends etc..).
who said i couldnt get a job? I said I dont have one right now b/c im looking for one the reason I can go get a go no where job that provides health care thats not what i want I want a job that will help further my career goals...
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who said i couldnt get a job? I said I dont have one right now b/c im looking for one the reason I can go get a go no where job that provides health care thats not what i want I want a job that will help further my career goals...
Figure out what you love to do and go in your own business. The first few years suck, but it gets better after that. You will have your freedom, dignity, and hopefully be able to keep more $$$ in your own pocket.
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the day you have a catastrophic illness or injury you might be able to figure it out (I say "might" because even then I'm not really sure you'd get it)
what % of ppl have catastrophic illnesses or injuries that prevent them from working? probably a very low % just like deckers 18,000 sorry bro that doesnt justify giving healthcare to the entire nation...
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who said i couldnt get a job? I said I dont have one right now b/c im looking for one the reason I can go get a go no where job that provides health care thats not what i want I want a job that will help further my career goals...
you don't have a job now because you're looking for one?
Don't you mean you're looking for a job now because you don't have one?
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what % of ppl have catastrophic illnesses or injuries that prevent them from working? probably a very low % just like deckers 18,000 sorry bro that doesnt justify giving healthcare to the entire nation...
I went 5 years without insurance. I have it now. I had a disability policy for $600 a year that paid me $2500 a month in the event of an illness.
During that time, I was able to put away a ton of $$$ in net savings, but a place for pennies on the dollar with a tiny mortgage, etc.
Did I gamble? Yes, but it was calculated gamble that paid off that i was well aware of.
Health insurance is mostly based on scare tacticts but it is needed for those 35 yo and older.
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you don't have a job now because you're looking for one?
Don't you mean you're looking for a job now because you don't have one?
what I meant was i dont have a job right now b/c im being picky, again I can go get a go no where job that has health insurance thats not what im looking for im looking for a JOB THAT WILL HELP FURTHER MY CAREER GOALS!!!!!!!!!!
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I went 5 years without insurance. I have it now. I had a disability policy for $600 a year that paid me $2500 a month in the event of an illness.
During that time, I was able to put away a ton of $$$ in net savings, but a place for pennies on the dollar with a tiny mortgage, etc.
Did I gamble? Yes, but it was calculated gamble that paid off that i was well aware of.
Health insurance is mostly based on scare tacticts but it is needed for those 35 yo and older.
sure you'd gambled and we all took the risk. If you had a catastrophic illness or accident that disability policy wouldn't have done shit.
You would received health care and the cost would have been passed along to those who had insurance or the taxpayers in some other way.
If you think health insurance (i.e. health care) is only need for those over 35 you're delusional
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I went 5 years without insurance. I have it now. I had a disability policy for $600 a year that paid me $2500 a month in the event of an illness.
During that time, I was able to put away a ton of $$$ in net savings, but a place for pennies on the dollar with a tiny mortgage, etc.
Did I gamble? Yes, but it was calculated gamble that paid off that i was well aware of.
Health insurance is mostly based on scare tacticts but it is needed for those 35 yo and older.
thats my point could i pay for health insurance, sure, could I pay for it and go to college probably not right now thus the looking for a good job that will give me health insurance and help with where I want to go.
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what I meant was i dont have a job right now b/c im being picky, again I can go get a go no where job that has health insurance thats not what im looking for im looking for a JOB THAT WILL HELP FURTHER MY CAREER GOALS!!!!!!!!!!
what field are you looking to move into one day?
in the long run, you'll be glad you stuck with stuff in your field. Employers have all the power in the world now, and a few jobs in your area is gonna be essential to get another job in that area.
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sure you'd gambled and we all took the risk. If you had a catastrophic illness or accident that disability policy wouldn't have done shit.
You would received health care and the cost would have been passed along to those who had insurance or the taxpayers in some other way.
If you think health insurance (i.e. health care) is only need for those over 35 you're delusional
Like I said it was a gamble I took, but my assets were well ovber 250k at the time.
I simply looked at the most possible things that could happen and based my decisions on that. I cant make decisisions based on freak accidents, but what is most likely to occur.
If I would have gotten crazy sick, I would have been wiped out since I had a lot of savings, a apartment worth alot $$, etc, but it was a gamble that paid off.
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what field are you looking to move into one day?
in the long run, you'll be glad you stuck with stuff in your field. Employers have all the power in the world now, and a few jobs in your area is gonna be essential to get another job in that area.
Energy, i really really want to get on as a real time energy trader and do that for a while I already have a degree but its in psych and worthless in the world of finance. There is a customer service rep position open in this one company I actually sat down and had coffee with the head of the acct department in that company about an internship but nothing came out of it. I was thinking even though it doesnt have any finance component to it at least its in the industry and maybe that would help out.
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Like I said it was a gamble I took, but my assets were well ovber 250k at the time.
I simply looked at the most possible things that could happen and based my decisions on that. I cant make decisisions based on freak accidents, but what is most likely to occur.
If I would have gotten crazy sick, I would have been wiped out since I had a lot of savings, a apartment worth alot $$, etc, but it was a gamble that paid off.
was the amount of the premium for you forgoed paying and for how long.
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Decker, don't go away mad, just go away. You've lost it, take the rest of the day off.
Oh man, you've done it now. This dickhead will start following you around Getbig and calling you "Eldon" because really, every account that disagrees with him is run by Eldon. The other 99.99% of Getbiggers all agree with everything this fucktard has to say. ::)
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thats my point could i pay for health insurance, sure, could I pay for it and go to college probably not right now thus the looking for a good job that will give me health insurance and help with where I want to go.
ok well at least you understand that by choosing to not pay for it you're passing that burden and risk to to the public and to people who are paying their insurance.
you're aware of that right?
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ok well at least you understand that by choosing to not pay for it you're passing that burden and risk to to the public and to people who are paying their insurance.
you're aware of that right?
in the case of a catastrophic injury where I cant work sure, whats the % of that again? ::)
Ive been sick a few times and the walk in clinic at the CVS does just fine for me...that didnt get passed on to you did it?
so those 18,000 of decker I guess is enough for you too huh? 18,000 justifies giving healthcare to an entire nation huh? ::)
you got my check ready?
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in the case of a catastrophic injury where I cant work sure, whats the % of that again? ::)
Ive been sick a few times and the walk in clinic at the CVS does just fine for me...that didnt get passed on to you did it?
so those 18,000 of decker I guess is enough for you too huh? 18,000 justifies giving healthcare to an entire nation huh? ::)
you got my check ready?
no idea of the % but I'm glad at least you're not so delusional as to not understand you're passing the largest part of the risk and the cost to others
I certainly hope you stay healthy
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Oh man, you've done it now. This dickhead will start following you around Getbig and calling you "Eldon" because really, every account that disagrees with him is run by Eldon. The other 99.99% of Getbiggers all agree with everything this fucktard has to say. ::)
well well well, the resident horse toothed racist makes an appearance.
Don't you have toilets to clean?
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no idea of the % but I'm glad at least you're not so delusional as to not understand you're passing the largest part of the risk and the cost to others
I certainly hope you stay healthy
LARGEST PART OF THE RISK ::) you just admitted you didnt know what the % was bro ::)
Id say the catastrophic injury is very lowwwww % wise the common cold is the largest part of the risk and again the walk in clinic at CVS WHERE I PAID WITH MY OWN MONEY worked just fine for me
you got my check ready? i needs me books
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Energy, i really really want to get on as a real time energy trader and do that for a while I already have a degree but its in psych and worthless in the world of finance. There is a customer service rep position open in this one company I actually sat down and had coffee with the head of the acct department in that company about an internship but nothing came out of it. I was thinking even though it doesnt have any finance component to it at least its in the industry and maybe that would help out.
ya didn't ask for my opinion, but I'll share it anyway :)
Get a stafford loan and go back to school for your MBA.
best time to get an education is during a recession. You're not gonna get a decent job in the crippled finance area for a while. Why not spend that 2 years (while everything is recovering) getting the MBA?
Along the way, you'll see tons of opportunities and internships that you won't hear about in the outside world. And if you do get a good job, you can stop school anytime then go back later. hell, most employers (used to) pay their guys to get MBAs.
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The best deal around here is to get on the local fire department and go to law school or MBA at night.
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LARGEST PART OF THE RISK ::) you just admitted you didnt know what the % was bro ::)
Id say the catastrophic injury is very lowwwww % wise the common cold is the largest part of the risk and again the walk in clinic at CVS WHERE I PAID WITH MY OWN MONEY worked just fine for me
you got my check ready? i needs me books
try to pay attention
The % of catastrophic injury or illness may be small but if it happens it will be much much higher than what you get with your walk in clinic at CVS.
That is how you are passing the largest risk to to the rest of us
Aren't you the guy who is trying to get a job in finance?
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try to pay attention
The % of catastrophic injury or illness may be small but if it happens it will be much much higher than what you get with your walk in clinic at CVS.
That is how you are passing the largest risk to to the rest of us
Aren't you the guy who is trying to get a job in finance?
you are assuming that he does not have savings or family memebers to help out.
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Energy, i really really want to get on as a real time energy trader and do that for a while I already have a degree but its in psych and worthless in the world of finance. There is a customer service rep position open in this one company I actually sat down and had coffee with the head of the acct department in that company about an internship but nothing came out of it. I was thinking even though it doesnt have any finance component to it at least its in the industry and maybe that would help out.
ya didn't ask for my opinion, but I'll share it anyway :)
Get a stafford loan and go back to school for your MBA.
best time to get an education is during a recession. You're not gonna get a decent job in the crippled finance area for a while. Why not spend that 2 years (while everything is recovering) getting the MBA?
Along the way, you'll see tons of opportunities and internships that you won't hear about in the outside world. And if you do get a good job, you can stop school anytime then go back later. hell, most employers (used to) pay their guys to get MBAs.
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you are assuming that he does not have savings or family memebers to help out.
I am assuming that
Hey Tony, do you have a huge savings acct or family members that are willing to go bankrupt paying for your healthcare.
You could pay ~ $500 a year for 5 years doing your walk in thing at CVS and then get into a horrible accident or have a brain tumor or cancer and then you'll get a bill for 50k, 100k or more. You'll get health care and someone else will pay the bill
Do you get the math yet?
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ya didn't ask for my opinion, but I'll share it anyway :)
Get a stafford loan and go back to school for your MBA.
best time to get an education is during a recession. You're not gonna get a decent job in the crippled finance area for a while. Why not spend that 2 years (while everything is recovering) getting the MBA?
Along the way, you'll see tons of opportunities and internships that you won't hear about in the outside world. And if you do get a good job, you can stop school anytime then go back later. hell, most employers (used to) pay their guys to get MBAs.
Thats cool Im open to all ideas
ya thats why im going back to school it will only take me a year to get my degree in finance and hopefully Ill be able to study for my GMAT's while doing so. That way I can take them and hopefully find a job that will pay for or at least assist in my MBA.
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try to pay attention
The % of catastrophic injury or illness may be small but if it happens it will be much much higher than what you get with your walk in clinic at CVS.
That is how you are passing the largest risk to to the rest of us
Aren't you the guy who is trying to get a job in finance?
No you try and pay attention Im passing you the smallest risk b/c thats the only portion of the risk that you will be viable for. Yes that small portion of risk carries with it a higher value monetarily but its still the smallest portion of risk brain child.
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Ya thats why im going back to school it will only take me a year to get my degree in finance and hopefully Ill be able to study for my GMAT's while doing so. That way I can take them and hopefully find a job that will pay for or at least assist in my MBA.
haha I hated studying for that GMAT. One stressful ass test.
get it while youre young and single. no way I could have done the MBA and worked with a family.
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I am assuming that
Hey Tony, do you have a huge savings acct or family members that are willing to go bankrupt paying for your healthcare.
You could pay ~ $500 a year for 5 years doing your walk in thing at CVS and then get into a horrible accident or have a brain tumor or cancer and then you'll get a bill for 50k, 100k or more. You'll get health care and someone else will pay the bill
Do you get the math yet?
I have savings not a whole lot but enough for me and I do have family.
and the % of brain tumors in this country?
again sorry bro that small % doesnt justify giving healthcare to the entire nation
YOU GOT MY CHECK READY YET??????????????????????????
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haha I hated studying for that GMAT. One stressful ass test.
get it while youre young and single. no way I could have done the MBA and worked with a family.
Man i got a buddy who is about to start his final semester of his Masters in Finance and he works full time as a financial analyst and recently got married I dont know how this guy does it
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Man i got a buddy who is about to start his final semester of his Masters in Finance and he works full time as a financial analyst and recently got married I dont know how this guy does it
props to him
just getting married , life is still somewhat easy. Make a baby...whew... goodbye college! However, after you've had them for a while, you may go to school just to enjoy some time to yourself!
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Joe Lieberman is a fucking bitch, I wish I could slap him with a rotting Salmon.
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I have savings not a whole lot but enough for me and I do have family.
and the % of brain tumors in this country?
again sorry bro that small % doesnt justify giving healthcare to the entire nation
YOU GOT MY CHECK READY YET??????????????????????????
God, are you really this dense.
It's not the % of occurance that's the issue but what it costs you when it does occur.
That's why you have insurance and that's the burden that you've chosen to pass on to the rest of us
It's really too bad their isn't some cheap (or free) public option available to you so you're not a potential burden on your family or society.
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props to him
just getting married , life is still somewhat easy. Make a baby...whew... goodbye college! However, after you've had them for a while, you may go to school just to enjoy some time to yourself!
hahaha they are being smart about it and waiting to have children this guy is a big planner i mean he will text me at 7a.m. on wednesday and ask what im doing on sat afternoon. Shit I havent even thought passed whether to drop a duece before or after breakfast and this guy wants to know if i have plans for 3 days from now...
honestly though he is one of the hardest working ppl i know I dont know how he does it, well he drinks alot maybe that has something to do with it.
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God, are you really this dense.
It's not the % of occurance that's the issue but what it costs you when it does occur.
That's why you have insurance and that's the burden that you've chosen to pass on to the rest of us
It's really too bad their isn't some cheap (or free) public option available to you so you're not a potential burden on your family or society.
thats fine but im passing you the smallest portion of risk as far as occurance even though it may cost more it happens less frequently. Again a small % doesnt jusitify giving health care to all ::) you gonna pay for my books or what? come on let your heart bleed just a tad bit more itll only cost you a grand or so...
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thats fine but im passing you the smallest portion of risk as far as occurance even though it may cost more it happens less frequently. Again a small % doesnt jusitify giving health care to all ::) you gonna pay for my books or what? come on let your heart bleed just a tad bit more itll only cost you a grand or so...
risk of occurance and risk of ruin are two different things
how about the govt gives you 500 a year to go to CVS but if you have an illness over 500 a year you agree to pay for it all out of pocket with zero recourse for you
don't forget
you get 500 dollars a year for free
and you know you'll never have a serious medical problem
this is easy money
right?
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risk of occurance and risk of ruin are two different things
how about the govt gives you 500 a year to go to CVS but if you have an illness over 500 a year you agree to pay for it all out of pocket with zero recourse for you
don't forget
you get 500 dollars a year for free
and you know you'll never have a serious medical problem
this is easy money
right?
yes they are seperate things straw but they are related my friend so there for their % can be linked in order for one to happen the first one must happen.
you know how to find the % of say getting a 3 digit number correct given each single digit has 10 possibilities?
you multiply 10x10x10 so 1/1000 chance
Id really like to see the % that leads to financial ruin...
wheres my book money? "is the check in the mail"? ;)
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yes they are seperate things straw but they are related my friend so there for their % can be linked in order for one to happen the first one must happen.
you know how to find the % of say getting a 3 digit number correct given each single digit has 10 possibilities?
you multiply 10x10x10 so 1/1000 chance
Id really like to see the % that leads to financial ruin...
wheres my book money? "is the check in the mail"? ;)
have you ever sold nakes puts or calls (I haven't but that's the risk of occurance and risk of ruin you should think about)
you can walk outside tonight and get hit by a car
It's probably not likely to happen but if it does happen there is a good chance you could be facing some huge medical bills
this is the entire reason why we developed the concept of pooling risk
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have you ever sold nakes puts or calls (I haven't but that's the risk of occurance and risk of ruin you should think about)
you can walk outside tonight and get hit by a car
It's probably not likely to happen but if it does happen there is a good chance you could be facing some huge medical bills
this is the entire reason why we developed the concept of pooling risk
this is fine but my point is the slight risk of major illness or injury doesnt justify giving health care to all.
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this is fine but my point is the slight risk of major illness or injury doesnt justify giving health care to all.
I think I've already said many times on other threads
I do think we should have a national health care system
I think YOU could benefit from it more than me
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I think I've already said many times on other threads
I do think we should have a national health care system
I think YOU could benefit from it more than me
I could benefit from the govt giving me a million dollars as well doesnt mean its whats right.
Its not right to ask ppl to pay for others shit especially when there are other options available. Look if youre bed ridden or what have you fine we can cover that but in cases such as mine I should not be given free health care on your dime.
If you feel so charitable why not pay for my books this semester?
thats a worthy cause wouldnt you say, Ill probably pay over a grand this semester for books alone. Thats 2 grand a year in BOOKS ALONE MAN, lets start govt legislation to put a stop to the idiotic profits of text book companies or the rising cost of college tuition. That would benefit ppl who are actually trying to better themselves which would be a much better use of time imho.
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I could benefit from the govt giving me a million dollars as well doesnt mean its whats right.
Its not right to ask ppl to pay for others shit especially when there are other options available. Look if youre bed ridden or what have you fine we can cover that but in cases such as mine I should not be given free health care on your dime.
If you feel so charitable why not pay for my books this semester?
thats a worthy cause wouldnt you say, Ill probably pay over a grand this semester for books alone. Thats 2 grand a year in BOOKS ALONE MAN, lets start govt legislation to put a stop to the idiotic profits of text book companies or the rising cost of college tuition. That would benefit ppl who are actually trying to better themselves which would be a much better use of time imho.
I'd have no problem if the govt paid for your books or your health care
if they did I don't think either would cost as much as they do now (espcially health care)
the reason you don't have health care now is because you can't afford it
that's a problem
like you said you don't even use that much health care
you'd probably pay more in that you take out but if you had a catastrophe you'd also be covered
that's how the whole gig works
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I'd have no problem if the govt paid for your books or your health care
if they did I don't think either would cost as much as they do now (espcially health care)
the reason you don't have health care now is because you can't afford it
that's a problem
like you said you don't even use that much health care
you'd probably pay more in that you take out but if you had a catastrophe you'd also be covered
that's how the whole gig works
LOL you refuse to realize that i can afford it I simply AM CHOOSING TO EXERCISE ONE OF MY MANY OTHER OPTIONS and looking for a job that would cover me while helping me get where I want to go. Again there are many options out there for an uninsured person out there. You know the military gives health insurance as well why dont these ppl go join the military if this is such a problem to them?
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LOL you refuse to realize that i can afford it I simply AM CHOOSING TO EXERCISE ONE OF MY MANY OTHER OPTIONS and looking for a job that would cover me while helping me get where I want to go. Again there are many options out there for an uninsured person out there. You know the military gives health insurance as well why dont these ppl go join the military if this is such a problem to them?
I already get that
remember we agreed that you're willfully passing along the catastrophic risk to others
you don't have a job and I assume very limited income so you like to pretend you're making some choice
we both know the choice has been made for you
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I already get that
remember we agreed that you're willfully passing along the catastrophic risk to others
you don't have a job and I assume very limited income so you like to pretend you're making some choice
we both know the choice has been made for you
LOL yes yes bad bad me :-[ ::) im putting you in an aweful predicament arent i? ???
I have actually no income at the moment as Ive said Im unemployed but I do have money as I saved instead of going out and putting 20's etc. on my truck like alot of those idiots with no health care you want to finance. You would basically be financing their idiotic lifestyle and lack of control to live within their means...
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LOL yes yes bad bad me :-[ ::) im putting you in an aweful predicament arent i? ???
I have actually no income at the moment as Ive said Im unemployed but I do have money as I saved instead of going out and putting 20's etc. on my truck like alot of those idiots with no health care you want to finance. You would basically be financing their idiotic lifestyle and lack of control to live within their means...
yep you and 40 million other people (and growing) who can't afford insurance
will you finally stop pretending you're exercising some choice
you can't afford it which is why you don't have it
I'm sorry you're in that situation
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yep you and 40 million other people (and growing) who can't afford insurance
will you finally stop pretending you're exercising some choice
you can't afford it which is why you don't have it
I'm sorry you're in that situation
how much do you pay for your insurance?
I tried to research a single coverage for one year and the premiums vary with different factors but it seems to be around $2000.00 a year in premiums as stated in this link
http://ohmygov.com/blogs/general_news/archive/2008/10/16/for-the-record-just-what-is-the-average-cost-of-health-care-insurance.aspx
that is a summary of this report
http://www.ahipresearch.org/pdfs/Individual_Market_Survey_December_2007.pdf
Now again I will spend over that in books alone for my year of college so dont tell me I cant afford it brain child its not worth it when I can simply find a job that will pay for it.
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LOL yes yes bad bad me :-[ ::) im putting you in an aweful predicament arent i? ???
I have actually no income at the moment as Ive said Im unemployed but I do have money as I saved instead of going out and putting 20's etc. on my truck like alot of those idiots with no health care you want to finance. You would basically be financing their idiotic lifestyle and lack of control to live within their means...
You're hilarious! Today, the fat ass welfare queens (gov programs) and the very rich (expensive insurance) are taken care of.
The people you want to punish are the poor slobs who work their asses off for meagre pay. Like the independent trucker who can't afford $600 a month for insurance, so when his wife gets cancer, basically there goes their tiny house, his rig, and everything else.
Or the admin assist who pays her premiums for 25 years, then is laid off. Her unemp benies give her $100 a month over the limit to get healthcare assistance. The stress gives her cancer and a heart attack, and $75,000 later, her house and savings are gone. She's worked and paid for 25 years, but too bad. Out on the street she goes. All to line the pockets of insurance execs.
The whole point behind the public option is so, like single payer countries, everyone is FORCED to pay for their OWN healthcare. That takes care of idiots who would rather go into their 40s and 50s, taking chances and spending their money on hookers and trucks. In single payer countries, as soon as you work, even if it's a small employer, you have to contribute to your own health. Part of it often comes from the VAT, so even fatass welfare queens contribute every time they purchase cigs or beer, or a plasma screen teevee.
You on the other hand, live off the taxpayer's dime in case of disease or accident, whether there's a public option or not. Part of the huge problem also is that uninsured working slob people wait till that boil on their ass (a $100 doctor's visit) turns into a $25,000 emerg bill when the boil turns into festering flesh eating disease.
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according to obama we can bring down the cost of health care without a public option b/c the 2 arent mutually exclusive so why dont we start there?
Why is the truckers wife not working?
why didnt the exec assist not save for the 25 yrs she had been working?
again there are plenty of viable options out there for ppl without health insurance, institute the legislation that was supposedly going to cut the health care costs and more ppl will get on.
Ive said it before its a worthy cause but not one worthy enough for me to have my taxes raised over. Institute the legislation that supposedly will help pay for it and then we might be able to talk.
Youve already seen that obama isnt very good with numbers he was what 2 trillion off on his estimate of the projected national debt? LOL and you want us to take this guys word for it?
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according to obama we can bring down the cost of health care without a public option b/c the 2 arent mutually exclusive so why dont we start there?
Why is the truckers wife not working?
why didnt the exec assist not save for the 25 yrs she had been working?
Do you live on planet Mars? Do you know how many working couples pull in maybe $24,000 between them? What do you think WalMart pays? Add in two kids and you're fucked as far as getting affordable insurance. Do you know what an admin assist makes? Maybe she should never purchase a house or go on vacation because even though she pays hefty insurance premiums, should she get laid off or get sick and fired, she may end up with $100,000 in medical bills.
It's fairly obvious that you've never been out in the working world. You're as naive as a baby.
I'm not arguing Obama's throwing of money around, just your ridiculous assumptions about work vis a vis health care in general. I'm sure if something happens to you at this point, mommy and daddy will pick up the pieces. Whatcha gonna do when you're 40, have two kids, a mortgage, bills, and your wife gets a debilitating disease. I hope people tell you what an ass you were not to save better while they pile you and your family out onto the street.
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Do you live on planet Mars? Do you know how many working couples pull in maybe $24,000 between them? What do you think WalMart pays? Add in two kids and you're fucked as far as getting affordable insurance. Do you know what an admin assist makes? Maybe she should never purchase a house or go on vacation because even though she pays hefty insurance premiums, should she get laid off or get sick and fired, she may end up with $100,000 in medical bills.
It's fairly obvious that you've never been out in the working world. You're as naive as a baby.
I'm not arguing Obama's throwing of money around, just your ridiculous assumptions about work vis a vis health care in general. I'm sure if something happens to you at this point, mommy and daddy will pick up the pieces. Whatcha gonna do when you're 40, have two kids, a mortgage, bills, and your wife gets a debilitating disease. I hope people tell you what an ass you were not to save better while they pile you and your family out onto the street.
live within your means darling, if your going on vacation etc and your complaining about not having health insurance sorry i have no sympathy.
You know nothing about me sweety Ive been working since I was 13 years old love Ive worked 2 full time jobs and a part time job at the same time to help pay bills Ive put myself through college and am doing it again now.
My mother has a debilitating disease called RA caused by an autoimmune disorder and she still gets up everyday and goes to work dont talk to me about hard times and fending for myself you know nothing about me and my family and what ive done in my life so please dont drop some sob story in my lap and expect me to feel bad.
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live within your means darling, if your going on vacation etc and your complaining about not having health insurance sorry i have no sympathy.
You know nothing about me sweety Ive been working since I was 13 years old love Ive worked 2 full time jobs and a part time job at the same time to help pay bills Ive put myself through college and am doing it again now.
My mother has a debilitating disease called RA caused by an autoimmune disorder and she still gets up everyday and goes to work dont talk to me about hard times and fending for myself you know nothing about me and my family and what ive done in my life so please dont drop some sob story in my lap and expect me to feel bad.
No one's asking you to feel bad. I don't feel bad either. I just know that there are millions of uninsured people because insurance premiums are through the roof due to all the skimming by big business. I don't want to have to pay for your hospital bills when you get cancer or wrap your car around a tree because you can't afford to buy insurance. And even if I did have to contribute, it'd make me feel better if you at least HAD to have contributed something because the government forced you to take care of your own health, rather than wait until the day "you" felt you could "afford" to contribute.
None of what I posted is "sob story crap." That's the way the world works. Either you can let people pay $150 a month for affordable insurance, or mark it so high they can't get it, then I and other taxpayers pay for their astronomical emerg bills. Your "I don't give a shit" attitude is what costs everyone in the long run.
The example of the admin assist I gave, was not about someone who didn't save to pay for her insurance. It was an example of someone who's worked and PAID huge premiums for 25 years, then gets sick right after being laid off. That happens every day. People also get fired from their jobs when they get sick WHILE being employed and covered, because it drives employer premiums up. Also happens every day. Like I said, naive as a baby.
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Figure out what you love to do and go in your own business. The first few years suck, but it gets better after that. You will have your freedom, dignity, and hopefully be able to keep more $$$ in your own pocket.
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Oh My! That's twice in the same month. :)
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you don't have a job now because you're looking for one?
Don't you mean you're looking for a job now because you don't have one?
Shhhhh... you might make him stop being so funny.
I've been a bit bored lately, ...and reading some of his arguments & his rationale have been quite entertaining
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Not naive darling again Obama says he can cut prices w/o a public option why not do that?
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Shhhhh... you might make him stop being so funny.
I've been a bit bored lately, ...and reading some of his arguments & his rationale have been quite entertaining
Miss you too my love :-*
Going to bed for the night but I'll be dreaming of you
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according to obama we can bring down the cost of health care without a public option b/c the 2 arent mutually exclusive so why dont we start there?
Why is the truckers wife not working?
why didnt the exec assist not save for the 25 yrs she had been working?
again there are plenty of viable options out there for ppl without health insurance, institute the legislation that was supposedly going to cut the health care costs and more ppl will get on.
Ive said it before its a worthy cause but not one worthy enough for me to have my taxes raised over. Institute the legislation that supposedly will help pay for it and then we might be able to talk.
Youve already seen that obama isnt very good with numbers he was what 2 trillion off on his estimate of the projected national debt? LOL and you want us to take this guys word for it?
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Your taxes raised?!
You gotta be kidding me. ::)
What taxes? ...you're unemployed!
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No one's asking you to feel bad. I don't feel bad either. I just know that there are millions of uninsured people because insurance premiums are through the roof due to all the skimming by big business. I don't want to have to pay for your hospital bills when you get cancer or wrap your car around a tree because you can't afford to buy insurance. And even if I did have to contribute, it'd make me feel better if you at least HAD to have contributed something because the government forced you to take care of your own health, rather than wait until the day "you" felt you could "afford" to contribute.
None of what I posted is "sob story crap." That's the way the world works. Either you can let people pay $150 a month for affordable insurance, or mark it so high they can't get it, then I and other taxpayers pay for their astronomical emerg bills. Your "I don't give a shit" attitude is what costs everyone in the long run.
The example of the admin assist I gave, was not about someone who didn't save to pay for her insurance. It was an example of someone who's worked and PAID huge premiums for 25 years, then gets sick right after being laid off. That happens every day. People also get fired from their jobs when they get sick WHILE being employed and covered, because it drives employer premiums up. Also happens every day. Like I said, naive as a baby.
Exactly DeeDee,
As well too, don't forget those who want insurance, but the insurance companies refuse to provide it because there's a significant chance they'll fall ill one day. So what happens... they eventually DO get sick, and everyone else has to pick up their tab.
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Miss you too my love :-*
Going to bed for the night but I'll be dreaming of you
Sleep tight... don't let the bed bugs bite!
I mean that, ...'cause you don't have any insurance. :o