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Ok, this headlined again on yahoo this morning:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090824/ap_on_en_tv/us_tv_beck_s_advertisers
He's getting hit pretty hard for saying Obama is a racist. This is where I'm perplexed. Many others on Fox have also said Obama is a racist. I've watched Glenn Beck off and on for quite a while and of all the crazy things he says and does, this really doesn't rank that high. So why try to get Glenn off for a pretty common belief among the people working and commenting for Fox? Leading up to this controversy over Glenn's comment, there were a few months were Glenn's antics got so strange, others working at Fox started to question it. Now, if they are successful in getting Glenn off Fox, then they will have managed to do exactly what was done to Bill Maher in the exact same way and Maher has successfully used that for years. What I'm wondering is if there has been some help from Fox execs in making this the means by which Glenn's show gets axed. A way of getting rid of a clown and having the benefit of not being wrong for hiring him or responsibility for killing the show and the benefit of having the left do to Glenn what happend to Maher. Anyway, seems there must be something else going on since what he's actually being attacked on is minor compared to other things he's said and many others at Fox have also said it.
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Ok, this headlined again on yahoo this morning:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090824/ap_on_en_tv/us_tv_beck_s_advertisers
He's getting hit pretty hard for saying Obama is a racist. This is where I'm perplexed. Many others on Fox have also said Obama is a racist. I've watched Glenn Beck off and on for quite a while and of all the crazy things he says and does, this really doesn't rank that high. So why try to get Glenn off for a pretty common belief among the people working and commenting for Fox? Leading up to this controversy over Glenn's comment, there were a few months were Glenn's antics got so strange, others working at Fox started to question it. Now, if they are successful in getting Glenn off Fox, then they will have managed to do exactly what was done to Bill Maher in the exact same way and Maher has successfully used that for years. What I'm wondering is if there has been some help from Fox execs in making this the means by which Glenn's show gets axed. A way of getting rid of a clown and having the benefit of not being wrong for hiring him or responsibility for killing the show and the benefit of having the left do to Glenn what happend to Maher. Anyway, seems there must be something else going on since what he's actually being attacked on is minor compared to other things he's said and many others at Fox have also said it.
Because Beck goes a lot deeper into the true nature of who infests the WH and he is a lot closer to the truth than the idiots like Vanity, the Leperchon, Hush, etc.
Beck knows the deal and is not afraid to call it just like it is.
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Because Beck goes a lot deeper into the true nature of who infests the WH and he is a lot closer to the truth than the idiots like Vanity, the Leperchon, Hush, etc.
Beck knows the deal and is not afraid to call it just like it is.
Not sure you understood where I was going because to apply this as a reply means you're saying he's getting targeted by Fox because he's at the core of what is wrong with the whitehouse while the rest of Fox is clueless including management. Or is that what you're saying?
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so you think they're letting him go off on purpose and eventually they will fire him?
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What's happening with Glenn Beck is that we have a person who is most likely predisposed to mental health issues (his mother and brother committed suicide) and addictive behaviour (he's a recovering alchoholic/addict) gradually losing his marbles on national TV.
I think the companies who advertised on his show at first liked his manic energy but now they realize that he's fucking unstable and they see his growing mental illness as more a liability than a benefit.
I believe the latest company to bail is Wal-Mart
That's gotta hurt
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so you think they're letting him go off on purpose and eventually they will fire him?
No, I'm wondering if they helped somehow in facilitating an effort to have advertisers bail from his show. The conspiracy is that they want to get rid of the guy thats antics even has others at Fox asking WTF in a way as to not show that they made a mistake by hiring him. So they get to can Beck and Blame the Left for employing the same thing that was done against Bill Maher. Can him and get political benefits from it. He's said things that are much more crazy, yet there was no effort or certainly no successful effort to get advertisers to bail. Yet now they are very successful with something that many others at Fox have also said? Something smells fishy and I'm just trying to see what and why.
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What's happening with Glenn Beck is that we have a person who is most likely predisposed to mental health issues (his mother and brother committed suicide) and addictive behaviour (he's a recovering alchoholic/addict) gradually losing his marbles on national TV.
I think the companies who advertised on his show at first liked his manic energy but now they realize that he's fucking unstable and they see his growing mental illness as more a liability than a benefit.
I believe the latest company to bail is Wal-Mart
That's gotta hurt
possibly, but where is the outrage for shows at Fox that repetitiously have Ann Coulter on and Ann is just as outrageous and easily says just as controversial things and probably more so. Ann is a favorite on Hannity and Hannity was one of the biggest pushing Obama as a racist. I agree that Beck is ill.
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possibly, but where is the outrage for shows at Fox that repetitiously have Ann Coulter on and Ann is just as outrageous and easily says just as controversial things and probably more so. Ann is a favorite on Hannity and Hannity was one of the biggest pushing Obama as a racist. I agree that Beck is ill.
I think Murdoch likes the "schtick" of the far right talking heads but they are probably just coming to realize that Beck is borderline (or over the line) mentally ill and that makes him dangerous and I can seem him truly losing it one night in a way that they just can't recover from. They're trying to find a way to show him the door without having to publicly admit the problem
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-13-2009/glenn-beck-s-operation
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possibly, but where is the outrage for shows at Fox that repetitiously have Ann Coulter on and Ann is just as outrageous and easily says just as controversial things and probably more so. Ann is a favorite on Hannity and Hannity was one of the biggest pushing Obama as a racist. I agree that Beck is ill.
Say what you want, but Becks' radio show really hits home.
Vanity is the worst!
Beck gets to the deper core issues which is exactly where Obama does not want to be.
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all they would have to do after Glenn gets fired is for other Fox Commentators to pull out Rev. Wright, say Glenn was right but Fox had to lose his talent at the hands of a tactic the left themselves were critical of when Maher got canned. Since most of them at Fox put out this opinion of Obama strongly in the past, it wouldn't mean anything for them to back Glenn on the issue after he's gone and blame the left for censorship tactics. And all along for a guy they wanted to get rid of anyway.
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I think Murdoch likes the "schtick" of the far right talking heads but they are probably just coming to realize that Beck is borderline (or over the line) mentally ill and that makes him dangerous and I can seem him truly losing it one night in a way that they just can't recover from. They're trying to find a way to show him the door without having to publicly admit the problem
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-13-2009/glenn-beck-s-operation
yea exactly. The thing I would add is that this way, this topic they not only show him the door, but benefit from it. (In their eyes anyway)
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all they would have to do after Glenn gets fired is for other Fox Commentators to pull out Rev. Wright, say Glenn was right but Fox had to lose his talent at the hands of a tactic the left themselves were critical of when Maher got canned. Since most of them at Fox put out this opinion of Obama strongly in the past, it wouldn't mean anything for them to back Glenn on the issue after he's gone and blame the left for censorship tactics. And all along for a guy they wanted to get rid of anyway.
Beck is not part of the club and therefore its easy to ostracize him.
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Say what you want, but Becks' radio show really hits home.
Vanity is the worst!
Beck gets to the deper core issues which is exactly where Obama does not want to be.
Why am I not suprised you're a fan of Glenn Beck
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Say what you want, but Becks' radio show really hits home.
Vanity is the worst!
Beck gets to the deper core issues which is exactly where Obama does not want to be.
as long as you know you're way off topic. The thread is not about what I think of Beck, but what I think Fox thinks about Beck and what they might be willing to do with that.
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Beck is not part of the club and therefore its easy to ostracize him.
still off topic.
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I think Murdoch likes the "schtick" of the far right talking heads but they are probably just coming to realize that Beck is borderline (or over the line) mentally ill and that makes him dangerous and I can seem him truly losing it one night in a way that they just can't recover from. They're trying to find a way to show him the door without having to publicly admit the problem
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-13-2009/glenn-beck-s-operation
John Stewart owns Glenn Beck. Funny ass clip.
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as long as you know you're way off topic. The thread is not about what I think of Beck, but what I think Fox thinks about Beck and what they might be willing to do with that.
Fox probably likes the ratings, but dislikes him personally.
I like Beck because he is honest about his beliefs. I think mostly he is spot on, even if his delivery is over the top.
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Fox probably likes the ratings, but dislikes him personally.
I like Beck because he is honest about his beliefs. I think mostly he is spot on, even if his delivery is over the top.
Did you see the Jon Stewart clip?
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Did you see the Jon Stewart clip?
which one?
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which one?
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-13-2009/glenn-beck-s-operation
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http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-13-2009/glenn-beck-s-operation
He was right out of surgery and you think using a quote right after surgery is a valid quote for him?
I think becks' delivery is off sometimes, but his message to me is far deeper than Vanity's or the Leperchons. I dont watch TV, but catch his radio show, which is usually spot on.
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He was right out of surgery and you think using a quote right after surgery is a valid quote for him?
I think becks' delivery is off sometimes, but his message to me is far deeper than Vanity's or the Leperchons. I dont watch TV, but catch his radio show, which is usually spot on.
I guess you only watched part of the clip. Watch the whole thing where Beck goes on to do multiple shows attacking healthcare in America. ;)
It's this kind of thing that Beck is often busted with. Probably Fox sees him as highly risky and want to get rid of him. I'm thinking Fox is actually behind this racist thing being successful.
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I guess you only watched part of the clip. Watch the whole thing where Beck goes on to do multiple shows attacking healthcare in America. ;)
It's this kind of thing that Beck is often busted with. Probably Fox sees him as highly risky and want to get rid of him. I'm thinking Fox is actually behind this racist thing being successful.
Most of these big corps are looking to Obama for handouts either in Cap & Trade, Health Care, etc. .
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Most of these big corps are looking to Obama for handouts either in Cap & Trade, Health Care, etc. .
hahaha, this is your reply to my post? uhhh, think you might want to reply to the post instead?
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hahaha, this is your reply to my post? uhhh, think you might want to reply to the post instead?
Look, Fox, MSNBC, CNN, all position themselves accordingly, but really dont go over too many lines.
Fox does its thing, MSNBC does its thing, etc.
However, do you ever see Vanity going deep into things like Beck does? Vanity has his little game and thats it, same with Oreilly.
Beck is a loose cannon and they dont like that. Its a controlled message and of all the players, Beck is the least controlled.
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Look, Fox, MSNBC, CNN, all position themselves accordingly, but really dont go over too many lines.
Fox does its thing, MSNBC does its thing, etc.
However, do you ever see Vanity going deep into things like Beck does? Vanity has his little game and thats it, same with Oreilly.
Beck is a loose cannon and they dont like that. Its a controlled message and of all the players, Beck is the least controlled.
Who in their right mind likes a loose cannon.
There is nothing positive about being a loose cannon
Interesting though, he appeals to others with the same mindset (you know, loose cannon/border line crazy, might snap at any moment, manic one minute and crying into the camera the next minute). Sadly, he does have a history of mental illness and addiction in his family and I think there is some of that coming out on the air.
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Who in their right mind likes a loose cannon.
There is nothing positive about being a loose cannon
Interesting though, he appeals to others with the same mindset (you know, loose cannon/border line crazy, might snap at any moment, manic one minute and crying into the camera the next minute). Sadly, he does have a history of mental illness and addiction in his family and I think there is some of that coming out on the air.
Come on - even I laughed my ass off at this. This was classic and I almost fell out of my chair. This was hysterical.
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Come on - even I laughed my ass off at this. This was classic and I almost fell out of my chair. This was hysterical.
I don't watch this stuff at work but there really is nothing funny about mental illness
I truly believe this man has a serious mental health issue
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I don't watch this stuff at work but there really is nothing funny about mental illness
I truly believe this man has a serious mental health issue
Watch it at home, its hysterical. Even I laughed my ass off.
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I don't watch this stuff at work but there really is nothing funny about mental illness
I truly believe this man has a serious mental health issue
He is nuts.HOWEVER,Olberman and Maddow are equally insane.Anyone that can barely get a sentance out without snickering at their own "brilliance" has a very very very serious mental illness.Those two say a line and can barely stop themselves from jumping up and bowing.Never have two bigger ego maniacs been on television.Whats amazing is that 99 times out of 100 neither says one thing that rises even close to being amusing or clever.However,they just sit there with their arrogant smirks as though they are borderline comedians and have just given the punch line to the funniest joke ever uttered.TOTALY INSANE!!
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He is nuts.HOWEVER,Olberman and Maddow are equally insane.Anyone that can barely get a sentance out without snickering at their own "brilliance" has a very very very serious mental illness.Those two say a line and can barely stop themselves from jumping up and bowing.Never have two bigger ego maniacs been on television.Whats amazing is that 99 times out of 100 neither says one thing that rises even close to being amusing or clever.However,they just sit there with their arrogant smirks as though they are borderline comedians and have just given the punch line to the funniest joke ever uttered.TOTALY INSANE!!
that's complete nonsense.
You might hate Olberman and Maddow but they are both completely sane
Beck is certifiable
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He is nuts.HOWEVER,Olberman and Maddow are equally insane. Anyone that can barely get a sentance out without snickering at their own "brilliance" has a very very very serious mental illness. Those two say a line and can barely stop themselves from jumping up and bowing.Never have two bigger ego maniacs been on television.Whats amazing is that 99 times out of 100 neither says one thing that rises even close to being amusing or clever.However,they just sit there with their arrogant smirks as though they are borderline comedians and have just given the punch line to the funniest joke ever uttered.TOTALY INSANE!!
No. They may be highly immature, but it's a tad dramatic for you to say anyone who giggles at their own accomplihments/owning "has a very very very serious mental illness"
Don't be a drama queen, mackey.
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No. They may be highly immature, but it's a tad dramatic for you to say anyone who giggles at their own accomplihments/owning "has a very very very serious mental illness"
Don't be a drama queen, mackey.
Olberman snorts after EVERY sentance he speaks.THATS insanity.Why are you snorting trying to contain your laughter at something YOU said.Thats nuts,idiotic and insane which explains a great deal as to why his ratings are in the sewer[exactly where his "talent" is].
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Say what you want, but Becks' radio show really hits home.
Vanity is the worst!
Beck gets to the deper core issues which is exactly where Obama does not want to be.
Is mental illness prevalent in your family?
He was right out of surgery and you think using a quote right after surgery is a valid quote for him?
I think becks' delivery is off sometimes, but his message to me is far deeper than Vanity's or the Leperchons. I dont watch TV, but catch his radio show, which is usually spot on.
You couldn't have watched the whole clip.even after he recovered and went back to work he said the same thing...so which is it Glenn?is our health care the best in the world like you say.Or.A nightmare like you say.ha ha.you can't make this stuff up.
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that's complete nonsense.
You might hate Olberman and Maddow but they are both completely sane
Beck is certifiable
Really?Where did you study to get your degree in psychology?You might hate Beck but Olberman and Maddow are certifiable.
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Is mental illness prevalent in your family?
You couldn't have watched the whole clip.even after he recovered and went back to work he said the same thing...so which is it Glenn?is our health care the best in the world like you say.Or.A nightmare like you say.ha ha.you can't make this stuff up.
maybe along with being a manic depressive Beck also has multiple personality disorder
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Is mental illness prevalent in your family?
You couldn't have watched the whole clip.even after he recovered and went back to work he said the same thing...so which is it Glenn?is our health care the best in the world like you say.Or.A nightmare like you say.ha ha.you can't make this stuff up.
Hey Dawg: Did I ever tell you I started a business? If not, Im just telling you so you know. Ok dude???
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Hey Dawg: Did I ever tell you I started a business? If not, Im just telling you so you know. Ok dude???
has a bunch of your family members off'ed themselves as Becks family has?Hell if I had to listen to Glenn or 333689 at every holiday get together I'd off myself as well.
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Hey Dawg: Did I ever tell you I started a business? If not, Im just telling you so you know. Ok dude???
hey 333, what is your business again? something to do with foreclosures or real estate?
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hey 333, what is your business again? something to do with foreclosures or real estate?
Commercial debt collection. B2B.
Mostly construction and inasurance related. I dont do any personal stuff, nothing. No medical bills, no credit cards bills, only business stuff.
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hey 333, what is your business again? something to do with foreclosures or real estate?
how could you have forgot?
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how could you have forgot?
I don't recall him ever saying.
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I don't recall him ever saying.
ha ha you gotta be shitin me I could post up a thousand post's with him referring to his epic ability's to start his own business...
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ha ha you gotta be shitin me I could post up a thousand post's with him referring to his epic ability's to start his own business...
You mean like Homer?
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ha ha you gotta be shitin me I could post up a thousand post's with him referring to his epic ability's to start his own business...
I recall him talking about his biz, how much he was making (always find that weird) but I didn't know what business he was in
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Olberman snorts after EVERY sentance he speaks.THATS insanity.Why are you snorting trying to contain your laughter at something YOU said.Thats nuts,idiotic and insane which explains a great deal as to why his ratings are in the sewer[exactly where his "talent" is].
Yes. He's right on par with people who kill 50 women and chop them up for the freezer.
Geez, stop being a drama queen Billy. he's a pompous dork. But "insane"? Man up, lib.
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Olberman snorts after EVERY sentance he speaks.THATS insanity.Why are you snorting trying to contain your laughter at something YOU said.Thats nuts,idiotic and insane which explains a great deal as to why his ratings are in the sewer[exactly where his "talent" is].
Good god billy ::)
I knew 333 would push this to a different subject as fast as he could. several posts trying to bring several other aspects he wanted discussed tossed in, post after post. All he needed was Billy to come in and bite ::)
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Good god billy ::)
I knew 333 would push this to a different subject as fast as he could. several posts trying to bring several other aspects he wanted discussed tossed in, post after post. All he needed was Billy to come in and bite ::)
What are you talking about? I said very clearly what I thought was going on. Beck is not good for big corps because he attacks them and obama for the deals they are making.
How is that off topic?
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No, Billy dropped the big thread hijack. You were just fishing to change it with some of your posts.
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Yes. He's right on par with people who kill 50 women and chop them up for the freezer.
Geez, stop being a drama queen Billy. he's a pompous dork. But "insane"? Man up, lib.
INCREDIBLE!!!!Did Glenn Beck off anyone?Has he killed 50 women.Yet there you sit and let other libs say he is insane and post nothing.Typical post by you...None of these goofs on television are insane.Their entire deal is try to get ratings.THATS ALL that whole genre and business is about.Nothing more,nothing less.Beck acts the fool to get ratings,Olberman acts like a pompous ass to get people to watch.
I watched a show on Jeffrey Dahmer last night on YOUR FAVORITE station MSNBC .THATS insane!Not Beck or Olberman.They are goofs!Maddow is such a goof that she thinks chopping her hair off, to make sure everyone knows she is a dyke, looks good.
I love it when libs on here constantly try to diminish anyone they disagree with with the "you need help" or "do you need therapy".Its the dumbest way of debating Ive ever seen.As simplistic and empty headed as anything on the net.Wow,some jerkoff on a forum,who is a looser thinks someone is insane.That will win the argument.
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INCREDIBLE!!!!Did Glenn Beck off anyone?Has he killed 50 women.Yet there you sit and let other libs say he is insane and post nothing.Typical post by you...None of these goofs on television are insane.Their entire deal is try to get ratings.THATS ALL that whole genre and business is about.Nothing more,nothing less.Beck acts the fool to get ratings,Olberman acts like a pompous ass to get people to watch.
I watched a show on Jeffrey Dahmer last night on YOUR FAVORITE station MSNBC .THATS insane!Not Beck or Olberman.They are goofs!Maddow is such a goof that she thinks chopping her hair off, to make sure everyone knows she is a dyke, looks good.
I love it when libs on here constantly try to diminish anyone they disagree with with the "you need help" or "do you need therapy".Its the dumbest way of debating Ive ever seen.As simplistic and empty headed as anything on the net.Wow,some jerkoff on a forum,who is a looser thinks someone is insane.That will win the argument.
insane?Maybe not...at least yet.But the guy's family history is full of depression,suicide,addiction,and yes loony tunes.he is more pre disposed to evolve into a complete wack job than your average bear.
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No, I'm wondering if they helped somehow in facilitating an effort to have advertisers bail from his show. The conspiracy is that they want to get rid of the guy thats antics even has others at Fox asking WTF in a way as to not show that they made a mistake by hiring him. So they get to can Beck and Blame the Left for employing the same thing that was done against Bill Maher. Can him and get political benefits from it. He's said things that are much more crazy, yet there was no effort or certainly no successful effort to get advertisers to bail. Yet now they are very successful with something that many others at Fox have also said? Something smells fishy and I'm just trying to see what and why.
that kind've of deep, home slice
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In January 2008, Beck had a hemorrhoid surgery which he described as "botched".[40] Following the surgery he criticized the health care industry for a lack of care for patients in US hospitals.[41] In July 2009, he called the US healthcare system "best health care system in the world".[42][43][44] Beck also has suggested that Health Care reform is a means of reparations for slavery.[45]
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Olberman snorts after EVERY sentance he speaks.THATS insanity.
None of these goofs on television are insane.
hi, John Kerry.
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that kind've of deep, home slice
Deep Thoughts by Hugo Chavez :D
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hi, John Kerry.
It was a goof you dunce.Trying to show how incredibly stupid it is to say Glenn Beck is insane because he has schtick on his show.Its called using exaggeration to make a point.Obviously I knew you wouldnt see it like that as you say in one breath that Olberman hasnt killed anyone so therefore he is not insane but in the next breath say nothing when others say Beck is insane when he killed no one.
Then YOU have the nerve to call someone John Kerry.You play yourself[and with yourself Im sure] everyday.
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It was a goof you dunce.Trying to show how incredibly stupid it is to say Glenn Beck is insane because he has schtick on his show.Its called using exaggeration to make a point.Obviously I knew you wouldnt see it like that as you say in one breath that Olberman hasnt killed anyone so therefore he is not insane but in the next breath say nothing when others say Beck is insane when he killed no one.
Then YOU have the nerve to call someone John Kerry.You play yourself[and with yourself Im sure] everyday.
Hey Billy:
Notice how everyone attacks Beck personally BUT NEVER IS ABLE TO REFUTE HIS MESSAGE????
Sure Beck is a clown with his delivery, but his message is usually spot on accurate.
Is Obama a racist? Of course he is. Liberals do not want that discussion because they cant refute the facts.
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I use to kind of like Beck, but ever since he had Ron Paul on his show and attacked him for 9/11 Truth I've thought Beck was a little bitch.
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I use to kind of like Beck, but ever since he had Ron Paul on his show and attacked him for 9/11 Truth I've thought Beck was a little bitch.
Look, there is a lot to be critical over Beck - but seriously - is there any other broadcaster doing what he does as far as the national debt, bailouts, etc?
Hush Bimbo?
Vanity?
Leperchon?
Even Savage lately?
Maybe only Levin.
Beck is the only one challenging Obama on the facts.
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Because Beck goes a lot deeper into the true nature of who infests the WH and he is a lot closer to the truth than the idiots like Vanity, the Leperchon, Hush, etc.
Beck knows the deal and is not afraid to call it just like it is.
so you're siding with Beck and you actually believe that Obama is a racist?
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so you're siding with Beck and you actually believe that Obama is a racist?
I know he is a racist.
The facts and history show he is a racist, his mentors are racists, his writings have evidenced racism.
Do you need a list?
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Look, there is a lot to be critical over Beck - but seriously - is there any other broadcaster doing what he does as far as the national debt, bailouts, etc?
Hush Bimbo?
Vanity?
Leperchon?
Even Savage lately?
Maybe only Levin.
Beck is the only one challenging Obama on the facts.
I guess I haven't seen him lately. Last time I checked in he was attacking Ron Paul and I haven't really watched him since.
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I guess I haven't seen him lately. Last time I checked in he was attacking Ron Paul and I haven't really watched him since.
I catch his radio show and RP never comes up.
Every day is about bailouts, cap & trade, czars, national debt, deficit, etc.
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I catch his radio show and RP never comes up.
Every day is about bailouts, cap & trade, czars, national debt, deficit, etc.
I'll tune back in, thanks!
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so you're siding with Beck and you actually believe that Obama is a racist?
ANY man that sits in a church for twenty years and listens to a rabbid racist like Rev. Wright IS a racist!!!!!!!
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Why am I not suprised you're a fan of Glenn Beck
This guy is a fan of anyone who attacks Obama and buys into his conspiracy theories..his hatred of Obama is so deep he has lost the ability to reason
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This guy is a fan of anyone who attacks Obama and buys into his conspiracy theories..his hatred of Obama is so deep he has lost the ability to reason
Can you defend Obama as not being a racist.Shall we debate THE FACTS.
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Who in their right mind likes a loose cannon.
There is nothing positive about being a loose cannon
Interesting though, he appeals to others with the same mindset (you know, loose cannon/border line crazy, might snap at any moment, manic one minute and crying into the camera the next minute). Sadly, he does have a history of mental illness and addiction in his family and I think there is some of that coming out on the air.
this is just the category of people that 3333 fits into
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Andre:
Do you want to debate facts or just throw around insults. ill have it any way you want.
I will assume you will continue with childish attacks because facts about this admn is nowhere you want to go near.
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He is nuts.HOWEVER,Olberman and Maddow are equally insane.Anyone that can barely get a sentance out without snickering at their own "brilliance" has a very very very serious mental illness.Those two say a line and can barely stop themselves from jumping up and bowing.Never have two bigger ego maniacs been on television.Whats amazing is that 99 times out of 100 neither says one thing that rises even close to being amusing or clever.However,they just sit there with their arrogant smirks as though they are borderline comedians and have just given the punch line to the funniest joke ever uttered.TOTALY INSANE!!
actually Maddow is quite intelligent and makes a lot of sense..she exposes republican and conservative hypocrisy all the time and it's hilarious
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Hey Billy:
Notice how everyone attacks Beck personally BUT NEVER IS ABLE TO REFUTE HIS MESSAGE????
Sure Beck is a clown with his delivery, but his message is usually spot on accurate.
Is Obama a racist? Of course he is. Liberals do not want that discussion because they cant refute the facts.
I'm gonna call it.
It's 7:24 AM in CA and I'm officially declaring you a certified idiot
congratulations
I know you've been working on this for a long time now
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Straw - do you want to debate facts or attack me personally?
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ANY man that sits in a church for twenty years and listens to a rabbid racist like Rev. Wright IS a racist!!!!!!!
not true..you can go to any church especially those on the far right conservative parts of the country and conservative politicians have been caught going to racist rants by preachers as well
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Straw - do you want to debate facts or attack me personally?
what's the point of trying to debate someone who's a certifiable idiot?
how would that be a worthwhile investment of my time?
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I'm gonna call it.
It's 7:24 AM in CA and I'm officially declaring you a certified idiot
congratulations
I know you've been working on this for a long time now
Lets see,sat in a racist church for twenty years,said nothing when Rev. Lowery got up to speak at Obamas inaugeration and insulted whites,said nothing when Robert Reich said whites shouldnt get jobs from the stimulous,his supreme court nominee insulted whites numerous times through her career,sided with Gates over the white cop,dropped the charges against the black panther party for intimidating white voters,said "THE WHITE MANS GREED RUNS A WORLD IN NEED".
Shall we go on?Trent Lott said ONE thing and was deemed a racist.Obama has a list as long as your arm and you ignore it.Amazing!!
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Andre:
Do you want to debate facts or just throw around insults. ill have it any way you want.
I will assume you will continue with childish attacks because facts about this admn is nowhere you want to go near.
whoa!!!....facts about this administation???..you are the one who said Obama fired a secret service agent because he supposedly overheard Obama, Michelle, etc talking about whites and jews.....you were the only ojne who said that....I never heard that on TV....
you got that from some stupid website...which proves that you want to believe anything bad about Obama because it fits into your racist mindset about him...
I dare you to deny the above....you created a whole thread over this
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not true..you can go to any church especially those on the far right conservative parts of the country and conservative politicians have been caught going to racist rants by preachers as well
Twenty years of Sundays and Wright still says the same thing NOW.Just a few weeks ago he said the reason he couldnt see Obama is that "dem jews wont let me see him".Come on.Obama believed EVERY word.
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Lets see,sat in a racist church for twenty years,said nothing when Rev. Lowery got up to speak at Obamas inaugeration and insulted whites,said nothing when Robert Reich said whites shouldnt get jobs from the stimulous,his supreme court nominee insulted whites numerous times through her career,sided with Gates over the white cop,dropped the charges against the black panther party for intimidating white voters,said "THE WHITE MANS GREED RUNS A WORLD IN NEED".
Shall we go on?Trent Lott said ONE thing and was deemed a racist.Obama has a list as long as your arm and you ignore it.Amazing!!
ok - you can be "333"'s understudy.
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I use to kind of like Beck, but ever since he had Ron Paul on his show and attacked him for 9/11 Truth I've thought Beck was a little bitch.
Beck lumps 9/11 truthers with the terrorists. He says they're both trying to destroy America. Amazing... Beck thinks I'm as dangerous as Al Qaeda ::) hahaha That's right Beck, watch out :D lol
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Twenty years of Sundays and Wright still says the same thing NOW.Just a few weeks ago he said the reason he couldnt see Obama is that "dem jews wont let me see him".Come on.Obama believed EVERY word.
come on..if you believe that you are a fool..politicians don't believe anything...only the vote is what matters....Obama sat there because it benefitted him politically...same as Lott..same as other conservative politicians who are not racists but sit there for the votes
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Twenty years of Sundays and Wright still says the same thing NOW.Just a few weeks ago he said the reason he couldnt see Obama is that "dem jews wont let me see him".Come on.Obama believed EVERY word.
If you go over to your friend's house for twenty years and your friend is always talking about minorities and how they are destroying America, does that mean you believe the same thing?
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whoa!!!....facts about this administation???..you are the one who said Obama fired a secret service agent because he supposedly overheard Obama, Michelle, etc talking about whites and jews.....you were the only ojne who said that....I never heard that on TV....
you got that from some stupid website...which proves that you want to believe anything bad about Obama because it fits into your racist mindset about him...
I dare you to deny the above....you created a whole thread over this
I posted what I found on a site. I admit that the story did not pan out.
HOWEVER:
!. Rev. Wright
2. Ayers
3. Dreams of my Fathers.
4. Dropping the black panthers case
5. Michelle's little rants
6. "Typical white person"
do you want more?
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If you go over to your friend's house for twenty years and your friend is always talking about minorities and how they are destroying America, does that mean you believe the same thing?
If you are not offended by it and those are the friends you keep, you are agreeing to it by ommission.
The friends Obama has always kept are just awful.
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I posted what I found on a site. I admit that the story did not pan out.
HOWEVER:
!. Rev. Wright
2. Ayers
3. Dreams of my Fathers.
4. Dropping the black panthers case
5. Michelle's little rants
6. "Typical white person"
do you want more?
I'll give you credit for being big enough to admit you were wrong on that.....
as for rev. Wright.....all preachers go too far with their rants.....haven't you ever been in church and rolled your eyes and said "oh brother" to yourself when the preacher said something really dumb???......
my point is sometimes you overlook certain flaws in people when they are your friends....I've had friends who have a hatred of gays and stuff like that but they were good people in other ways.....they were entitled to their opinions.....I disagreed but as long as they didn't take it to the next level and actually assault gays or discriminate against them then I was able to tolerate it and continue the friendships....people aren't perfect...neither are politicians
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Andre:
I can honestly say i have never ever heard anything remotely like Rev. Wright in any church or service I have ever been to.
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Just wondering, Billy, 3333 what are your opinions of the southern strategy. I want to hear your moral view of it? Right or wrong?
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Just wondering, Billy, 3333 what are your opinions of the southern strategy. I want to hear your moral view of it? Right or wrong?
Morally? I have no problem with it.
Politics is war without bullets and the same thing goes on in the NE where I live, only in different ways.
All they do is scare people about the evil bible belt coming after womens' vaginas, etc.
They scare minorities about the GOP coming with sheets, etc.
Both sides do it.
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Morally? I have no problem with it.
Politics is war without bullets and the same thing goes on in the NE where I live, only in different ways.
All they do is scare people about the evil bible belt coming after womens' vaginas, etc.
They scare minorities about the GOP coming with sheets, etc.
Both sides do it.
well ok then what's your beef with a half black politician spending time in a community that obviously has a lot of black racists? How is Obama working their vote any different morally? You just said both sides do it but what? You only want to call Obama on it?
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Just wondering, Billy, 3333 what are your opinions of the southern strategy. I want to hear your moral view of it? Right or wrong?
Its perfectly fine.Just as the democrats playing racial politics and getting 95% of the black vote in every election by painting republicans as racists.
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Its perfectly fine.Just as the democrats playing racial politics and getting 95% of the black vote in every election by painting republicans as racists.
then I also pose the same question to you that I did above for 333
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well ok then what's your beef with a half black politician spending time in a community that obviously has a lot of black racists? How is Obama working their vote any different morally? You just said both sides do it but what? You only want to call Obama on it?
He sat in a church listening to a rabid racist.On top of that he lied and said he NEVER heard any racial rants.The guy LOVED Rev. Wright.He even wrote a book using one of Wrights sermons as the inspiration.Come on,it was A LOT more then just hanging around and getting votes.It was a devotion to the man.
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He sat in a church listening to a rabid racist.On top of that he lied and said he NEVER heard any racial rants.The guy LOVED Rev. Wright.He even wrote a book using one of Wrights sermons as the inspiration.Come on,it was A LOT more then just hanging around and getting votes.It was a devotion to the man.
that's nice, now try actually answering the question:
well ok then what's your beef with a half black politician spending time in a community that obviously has a lot of black racists? How is Obama working their vote any different morally? You just said both sides do it but what? You only want to call Obama on it?
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then I also pose the same question to you that I did above for 333
All Im saying is just be honest about who the guy is.
I can deal with a open racist who is honest about it far better than a closet racist who is sneaky about it and tells me what he thinks I want to hear.
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Billy, republicans were devoted to the southern strategy too. you both basically said that's ok. Now Obama is a fucking politician. If he's hanging around communities angry with whites, how's this any different? Really you're being a hypocrite if you think there is a legit moral difference.
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All Im saying is just be honest about who the guy is.
I can deal with a open racist who is honest about it far better than a closet racist who is sneaky about it and tells me what he thinks I want to hear.
honest about who he is? a politician? yea, I'm not in denial of that. You don't know if he is a racist or just playing a strategy any more than you know that of all republicans that benefited from the southern strategy.
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honest about who he is? a politician? yea, I'm not in denial of that. You don't know if he is a racist or just playing a strategy any more than you know that of all republicans that benefited from the southern strategy.
He played it from college on?
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He played it from college on?
facts are he was playing politics IN COLLEGE. Yes, he absolutely had political ambitions with his moves after college. and that's hardly unusual. If you're making a moral argument of it, how long did republicans reap the rewards of the southern strategy?
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facts are he was playing politics IN COLLEGE. Yes, he absolutely had political ambitions with his moves after college. and that's hardly unusual. If you're making a moral arguement of it, how long did republicans reap the rewards of the southern strategy?
Ok. Hugo - I just dont like people like that. I like knowing where I stand with a person, whether they hate me or like me. I dont like slick slippery fake people.
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Its perfectly fine.Just as the democrats playing racial politics and getting 95% of the black vote in every election by painting republicans as racists.
not true...first of all Republicans DO NOT WANT THE BLACK VOTE..it would harm them because all the white racists and conservatives would realize they are on the same side as blacks and voting for the same candidate.....
second, notice that Republicans RARELY campaign in black neighborhoods.....they do this on purpose because even THEY know that blacks would never support them once they hear them takl about their regressive policies...also, if people don't hear what you stand for, they can't vote against you and won't be arroused enough to go to the polls....classic Rebulican strategy to suppress the vote...
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Ok. Hugo - I just dont like people like that. I like knowing where I stand with a person, whether they hate me or like me. I dont like slick slippery fake people.
ok, you like knowing where they stand. I can understand that. But... here we go again... Denial of the southern strategy among republicans runs extremely high. so how's that any different than a perceived denial by Obama? You suggested politics is war and all is fair in that war morally since both sides play it. Isn't it hypocritical to nail Obama on it then?
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not true...first of all Republicans DO NOT WANT THE BLACK VOTE..it would harm them because all the white racists and conservatives would realize they are on the same side as blacks and voting for the same candidate.....
second, notice that Republicans RARELY campaign in black neighborhoods.....they do this on purpose because even THEY know that blacks would never support them once they hear them takl about their regressive policies...also, if people don't hear what you stand for, they can't vote against you and won't be arroused enough to go to the polls....classic Rebulican strategy to suppress the vote...
Andre - please.
You and I both know there is no reason for the GOP to bother campaigning in mostly black hoods in NYC.
Charlie Rangle gets 98% every time. The other dems get 85% and better every single time based on one message -
"VOTE FOR ME - I WILL VOTE TO GET YOU MORE FREE STUFF"
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ok, you like knowing where they stand. I can understand that. But... here we go again... Denial of the souther strategy among republicans runs extremely high. so how's that any different than a perceived denial by Obama? You suggested politics is war and all is fair in that war morally since both sides play it. Isn't it hypocritical to nail Obama on it then?
Why? Who denies the "southern strategy"?
as far as Obama - most of the libs are the ones in denial, not me.
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Why? Who denies the "southern strategy"?
you're kidding right? Find me a republican politician who will admit it? The internets are filled with denial :D That's easy to prove if you really want me to. So now what?
tap out before it breaks :D
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Andre - please.
You and I both know there is no reason for the GOP to bother campaigning in mostly black hoods in NYC.
Charlie Rangle gets 98% every time. The other dems get 85% and better every single time based on one message -
"VOTE FOR ME - I WILL VOTE TO GET YOU MORE FREE STUFF"
and why is that?..because the black voters don't hear anyone else's point of view..and the Republicans would rather paint blacks as the enemy than engage with them..which is stupid politically because the big secret is BLACKS ARE ACTUALLY SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE!!!!.....
who do you think defeated the proposition for gay marriage in California?...Black voters OVERWHELMINGLY voted against it which tipped the scales to it being voted down
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Andre - please.
You and I both know there is no reason for the GOP to bother campaigning in mostly black hoods in NYC.
Charlie Rangle gets 98% every time. The other dems get 85% and better every single time based on one message -
"VOTE FOR ME - I WILL VOTE TO GET YOU MORE FREE STUFF"
By the way...let me reveal another secret to you...WHITES LOVE FREE STUFF AS WELL!!! ;)
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that's nice, now try actually answering the question:
well ok then what's your beef with a half black politician spending time in a community that obviously has a lot of black racists? How is Obama working their vote any different morally? You just said both sides do it but what? You only want to call Obama on it?
You keep saying "he hung around black communities".He didnt "hang around" Wrights church.He was immersed in it.He was a true believer.He wrote a book that was inspired by Wright,fell asleep listening to his sermons in his headphones[in his book]had Wright baptise his kids.This idea that he just"hung around" Wrights church is a joke.The guy believed EVERY word that was uttered there.His immeadiate response to the Gates case and his dropping the charges against the black panthers and his nomination of Sotomayor show where his heart is.Its right in the first pew of Wrights racist church.Defend him untill your blue in the face,the man is a racist,which wouldnt bother me,but he pretends to be a unifiers,which DOES bother me.
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Look what happened to Bill Cosby. Many Blacks DONT WANT THAT MESSAGE!
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You keep saying "he hung around black communities".He didnt "hang around" Wrights church.He was immersed in it.He was a true believer.He wrote a book that was inspired by Wright,fell asleep listening to his sermons in his headphones[in his book]had Wright baptise his kids.This idea that he just"hung around" Wrights church is a joke.The guy believed EVERY word that was uttered there.His immeadiate response to the Gates case and his dropping the charges against the black panthers and his nomination of Sotomayor show where his heart is.Its right in the first pew of Wrights racist church.Defend him untill your blue in the face,the man is a racist,which wouldnt bother me,but he pretends to be a unifiers,which DOES bother me.
are you saying he actually hated his white mother and grandmother? They are white as white gets so did he hate them? Yes or no?
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love where the topic went from the thread's start. :D
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love where the topic went from the thread's start. :D
as you already know Hugo, this always happens in GetBig.....the thread topic gets lost due to petty disagreements among posters..LOL....I'm guilty as well :D
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are you saying he actually hated his white mother and grandmother? They are white as white gets so did he hate them? Yes or no?
Hugo - said in his own book that by 12 he associated himself as black and divorced himself from his white heritage. He also called granny a "typical white person"
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Hugo - said in his own book that by 12 he associated himself as black and divorced himself from his white heritage. He also called granny a "typical white person"
yes but he did that due to his realization of the racism around him and the racism he was getting from whites......when you live in both worlds you can pretty much recognize very quickly what is REALLY going on..and it plays a part in shaping your identity...he was divorcing himself from the white hate and whtie racism he was seeing in those in his immediate white family and in whites at large...
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yes but he did that due to his realization of the racism around him and the racism he was getting from whites......when you live in both worlds you can pretty much recognize very quickly what is REALLY going on..and it plays a part in shaping your identity...he was divorcing himself from the white hate and whtie racism he was seeing in those in his immediate white family and in whites at large...
His black father took off on him, left his mother high and dry, and his white grand parents foot the bill to raise him. And you have the balls to says that?
And sadly - Obama adopted another form of racism by going to Rev. Wright and Ayeres. .
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His black father took off on him, left his mother high and dry, and his white grand parents foot the bill to raise him. And you have the balls to says that?
Exactly, where would Obama be today without his evil white relatives? ???
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You keep saying "he hung around black communities".He didnt "hang around" Wrights church.He was immersed in it.He was a true believer.He wrote a book that was inspired by Wright,fell asleep listening to his sermons in his headphones[in his book]had Wright baptise his kids.This idea that he just"hung around" Wrights church is a joke.The guy believed EVERY word that was uttered there.His immeadiate response to the Gates case and his dropping the charges against the black panthers and his nomination of Sotomayor show where his heart is.Its right in the first pew of Wrights racist church.Defend him untill your blue in the face,the man is a racist,which wouldnt bother me,but he pretends to be a unifiers,which DOES bother me.
u got teh hardon for rev right...news for you..right wing extemeists...say worse about the government..
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His black father took off on him, left his mother high and dry, and his white grand parents foot the bill to raise him. And you have the balls to says that?
And sadly - Obama adopted another form of racism by going to Rev. Wright and Ayeres. .
uh huh..and that justifies them saying racist stuff about black people???
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uh huh..and that justifies them saying racist stuff about black people???
What did they say that was racist?
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Hugo - said in his own book that by 12 he associated himself as black and divorced himself from his white heritage. He also called granny a "typical white person"
gotcha. You said you didn't have an issue morally with republicans using race since politics is a war and both sides do it. when pinned on this you said it basically boils down to being against the politician who denies it, even though it is in fact heavily denied by republicans. You accused Obama of hiding it, now your saying he had a candid coversation with the public through a book where he was open with his racial feelings. This is getting hysterical :D
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What did they say that was racist?
Obama said he heard his grandmother often make racist slurs and talk about blacks...imagine the psychological impact that would have if you hear someone so close to you saying stiuff like that which supposedly refers to you???
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Obama said he heard his grandmother often make racist slurs and talk about blacks...imagine the psychological impact that would have if you hear someone so close to you saying stiuff like that which supposedly refers to you???
I hear the most nasty things about Italians from my own family. I am not scarred for life over it.
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Obama said he heard his grandmother often make racist slurs and talk about blacks...imagine the psychological impact that would have if you hear someone so close to you saying stiuff like that which supposedly refers to you???
and yet they went on to have a close relationship. If that doesn't say something good about Obama, I don't know what would...
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and yet they went on to have a close relationship. If that doesn't say something good about Obama, I don't know what would...
good point
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I hear the most nasty things about Italians from my own family. I am not scarred for life over it.
being Italian definitely does not carry the same stigma and an Italian who has a problem with being Italian can just stop identifying himself as italian...black skin is there for all to see and can't be hidden when the going gets tough
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u got teh hardon for rev right...news for you..right wing extemeists...say worse about the government..
I have ZERO problem with Rev. Wright.He is a racist and hates whites.That doesnt bother me in the least.My problem is that Obama claims he never heard any of that.Just admit it,say you agreed with it,thats why you were there for twenty years.
Rev. Wright doesnt hate the government even one one millionth as much as me.
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I have ZERO problem with Rev. Wright.He is a racist and hates whites.That doesnt bother me in the least.My problem is that Obama claims he never heard any of that.Just admit it,say you agreed with it,thats why you were there for twenty years.
Rev. Wright doesnt hate the government even one one millionth as much as me.
Billy: These same libs who hate the govt for 9/11, Katrina/ Iraq, etc, are the first ones who want the govt to give them all sorts of free stuff and take care of theire health care, food, housing, etc.
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I have ZERO problem with Rev. Wright.He is a racist and hates whites.That doesnt bother me in the least.My problem is that Obama claims he never heard any of that.Just admit it,say you agreed with it,thats why you were there for twenty years.
Rev. Wright doesnt hate the government even one one millionth as much as me.
So your beef comes down to him being a politician? I mean what politician wouldn't have denied it? A wee bit naive don't you think? You think for a second it hasn't been denied multiple times by a republican?
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Billy: These same libs who hate the govt for 9/11, Katrina/ Iraq, etc, are the first ones who want the govt to give them all sorts of free stuff and take care of theire health care, food, housing, etc.
WOW!!!..get back into therapy..QUICK!!!
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WOW!!!..get back into therapy..QUICK!!!
Oh, how am I wrong????
You clowns think that the same govt that screwed up Katrina, Iraq, the post office, etc are somehow going to do health care right????
Please.
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Billy: These same libs who hate the govt for 9/11, Katrina/ Iraq, etc, are the first ones who want the govt to give them all sorts of free stuff and take care of theire health care, food, housing, etc.
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll59/MeekOneGOP/Pete%20Sessions%20Townhall%208-19-2009/DSC00128.jpg)
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So your beef comes down to him being a politician? I mean what politician wouldn't have denied it? A wee bit naive don't you think? You think for a second it hasn't been denied multiple times by a republican?
Heres what I think.If you have a friend,a pal,a guy you really like and admire,it shows an AMAZING lack of guts to throw him under the bus for your own goals.Its an utter lack of corage,lack of loyalty and lack of understanding the meaning of pal.I find it to summarise Obama.He ONLY cares about himself.He is a NOTHING compared to Reagan.
Colin Powell tells a story of how a HUGE blunder was made when Reagan was in office.The blunder was Powells and his alone.Powell says Reagan got up and instead of blaming Powell Reagan said it was 100% HIS fault.Ive seen Powell get choked up telling the story.THATS a pal.THATS loyalty.Rev. Wright was Obamas pal and he threw him under the bus to save his own skin.Thats gutless and cowardly.Look at the unending loyalty Bush had for his guys.Obama is the opposite of that.Hes gutless.
Lastly,when the president of the United States has less guts and loyalty then the personal trainer of Barry Bonds,thats a sad state of affairs for the country.
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Billy: These same libs who hate the govt for 9/11, Katrina/ Iraq, etc, are the first ones who want the govt to give them all sorts of free stuff and take care of theire health care, food, housing, etc.
check out what happened here. 3333 was having problems successfully debating the issues which the thread got derailed and so what does he do, drops worms baiting for another switch.
only needed to say as little as he's crazy, the hook is in...
Oh, how am I wrong????
You clowns think that the same govt that screwed up Katrina, Iraq, the post office, etc are somehow going to do health care right????
Please.
good job 3333
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Thanks Hugo! I can always count on your for support and approval.
BTW - I i posted and article from huffington Post that backs up what you were saying the other day. I really had no idea there was this much discontent on the left side of the isle.
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Heres what I think.If you have a friend,a pal,a guy you really like and admire,it shows an AMAZING lack of guts to throw him under the bus for your own goals.Its an utter lack of corage,lack of loyalty and lack of understanding the meaning of pal.I find it to summarise Obama.He ONLY cares about himself.He is a NOTHING compared to Reagan.
Colin Powell tells a story of how a HUGE blunder was made when Reagan was in office.The blunder was Powells and his alone.Powell says Reagan got up and instead of blaming Powell Reagan said it was 100% HIS fault.Ive seen Powell get choked up telling the story.THATS a pal.THATS loyalty.Rev. Wright was Obamas pal and he threw him under the bus to save his own skin.Thats gutless and cowardly.Look at the unending loyalty Bush had for his guys.Obama is the opposite of that.Hes gutless.
Lastly,when the president of the United States has less guts and loyalty then the personal trainer of Barry Bonds,thats a sad state of affairs for the country.
so you deny republicans have denied similar accusations? I guess so.. very hypocritical billy...
Loyatly ::) Oh yea, clearly Bush was surrounded by loyalty... they're all writing books and tossing Bush under the bus.... Even Cheney lol.... real tight group.
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so you deny republicans have denied similar accusations? I guess so.. very hypocritical billy...
Loyatly ::) Oh yea, clearly Bush was surrounded by loyalty... they're all writing books and tossing Bush under the bus.... Even Cheney lol.... real tight group.
BUSH WAS LOYAL TO A FAULT!!He is a great man who NEVER knocked or turned his back on his friends.Compared to this little gutless man we have in there now,Bush is a giant!!!
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BUSH WAS LOYAL TO A FAULT!!He is a great man who NEVER knocked or turned his back on his friends.Compared to this little gutless man we have in there now,Bush is a giant!!!
There you have it folks, Billy says Bush is a great man... lol...
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There you have it folks, Billy says Bush is a great man... lol...
This coming from a supporter of a guy who is going to give us a 9 trillion dollar deficit,a wrecked health care system,racial strife not seen since the 60s,an assanine cap and trade bill that will destroy the economy,a man that appologises for the United States.A gutless,spineless coward who stabs his friends in the back.YES!!!!!!!!!!!Compared to Obama, Bush is a god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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There you have it folks, Billy says Bush is a great man... lol...
I personally though the treatment of Ramos and compean was a disgrace. The loyalty to Johnny Sutton was disgusting.
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BUSH WAS LOYAL TO A FAULT!!He is a great man who NEVER knocked or turned his back on his friends.
yeah, his friends at Enron, Exxon, Aetna...
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yeah, his friends at Enron, Exxon, Aetna...
Hmmm,want to compare how many people are employed by those companies to how many make a living from ACORN and LA RAZA.Thats who Obama is loyal to.
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Damn Dawg - when did you place a bug and recording device in my house?
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This coming from a supporter of a guy who is going to give us a 9 trillion dollar deficit,a wrecked health care system,racial strife not seen since the 60s,an assanine cap and trade bill that will destroy the economy,a man that appologises for the United States.A gutless,spineless coward who stabs his friends in the back.YES!!!!!!!!!!!Compared to Obama, Bush is a god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This coming from a supporter of a guy who fucked America so bad, dug such a massive hole of problems, the next president is screwed no matter what he does.
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Heres what I think.If you have a friend,a pal,a guy you really like and admire,it shows an AMAZING lack of guts to throw him under the bus for your own goals.Its an utter lack of corage,lack of loyalty and lack of understanding the meaning of pal.I find it to summarise Obama.He ONLY cares about himself.He is a NOTHING compared to Reagan.
Colin Powell tells a story of how a HUGE blunder was made when Reagan was in office.The blunder was Powells and his alone.Powell says Reagan got up and instead of blaming Powell Reagan said it was 100% HIS fault.Ive seen Powell get choked up telling the story.THATS a pal.THATS loyalty.Rev. Wright was Obamas pal and he threw him under the bus to save his own skin.Thats gutless and cowardly.Look at the unending loyalty Bush had for his guys.Obama is the opposite of that.Hes gutless.
Lastly,when the president of the United States has less guts and loyalty then the personal trainer of Barry Bonds,thats a sad state of affairs for the country.
you're really going overboard and exagerating to make a point
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Damn Dawg - when did you place a bug and recording device in my house?
haha.thats a damn good clip huh....