Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Soul Crusher on September 20, 2009, 06:01:53 AM
-
Friday, September 18, 2009
Democrat Sen. Claire McCaskill Calls for Cutting Back on Providing Motorized Wheelchairs through Medicare - Video
Here is a video report on calls by Missouri Democrat Sen. Claire McCaskill to cut back on providing motorized wheelchairs to people through Medicare. She was citing this as a place to save money and reduce Health Care costs.
Here is a perfect example of how the Democrats' Government Health Care would inevitably result in rationing of care. It has not even passed, and McCaskill is already talking about what the Government can get rid of in order to pay for their massive plan.
What do you think will happen once it passes?
http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/09/democrat-sen-claire-mccaskill-calls-for.html
-
Death panels too!! ::)
-
Death panels too!! ::)
Why do you keep ignoring the 800 lbs gorilla in the room?
Where is your company and batallion info for the two wars you claim you fought in so HH6 can verify it?
-
don't question him because beck told him so,
-
don't question him because beck told him so,
Watch the video blackass. McCaskill is on video saying she wants to cut the scooters to old people.
-
more fox news bullshit,. she said to people that don't need them,not the people that are cripple or can't walk.let me see if i can make this moron proof, alot of these companies are taking advantage of Medicare by telling them they can get these scooters for free but alot of these people don't really need them. and the tax payer is paying the bill
-
more fox news bullshit,. she said to people that don't need them,not the people that are cripple or can't walk.let me see if i can make this moron proof, alot of these companies are taking advantage of Medicare by telling them they can get these scooters for free but alot of these people don't really need them. and the tax payer is paying the bill
And who is going to make that determination Blacken? The doctor or the govt beaurucrat?
-
the doctor ,funny you bring that up why are we letting the insurance companies make alot of the decisions now with our current health care. now back to your post all you are doing is scare tactics to frighten the old people
-
Friday, September 18, 2009
Democrat Sen. Claire McCaskill Calls for Cutting Back on Providing Motorized Wheelchairs through Medicare - Video
Here is a video report on calls by Missouri Democrat Sen. Claire McCaskill to cut back on providing motorized wheelchairs to people through Medicare. She was citing this as a place to save money and reduce Health Care costs.
Here is a perfect example of how the Democrats' Government Health Care would inevitably result in rationing of care. It has not even passed, and McCaskill is already talking about what the Government can get rid of in order to pay for their massive plan.
What do you think will happen once it passes?
http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/09/democrat-sen-claire-mccaskill-calls-for.html
here's a quote that hasn't been cut off:
SEN. CLAIRE MCCASKILL (D-MO.): Well, I don't know how many ads you've seen for scooters on cable TV, but I see a lot of them. Those are scooters paid for by the American people, and a lot of them are going to folks who don't need scooters.
It's one example of many examples where we are paying for services or things instead of outcomes. And I think it's very important that we start focusing on the patient and what's good for the patient rather than five or 10 or eight CAT scans in one week so docs and hospitals are trying to pay for those machines.
There's lots of things we can do without cutting any of the services. And rankly, Medicare Advantage, with all due respect to Orrin, we just transferred a lot of taxpayer money to insurance companies. It hasn't brought down the cost of Medicare. It hasn't improved the services.
McCaskill was pointing out that this is one area where there is some abuse and waste. She's not talking about people with MS or who are handicapped but people who are obese and who don't really need the thing to get around but just get it because it FREE in the sense that it's paid for by you and me.
People with a true medical need will still be able to get their motorized wheel chairs.
The scare tactics from Repubs are ridiculous considering their plan is to do absolutely nothing. Shit, Repubs didn't even want to give health insurance to poor kids. They have no credible voice in this debate at all
-
the doctor ,funny you bring that up why are we letting the insurance companies make alot of the decisions now with our current health care. now back to your post all you are doing is scare tactics to frighten the old people
X Infinity
-
the doctor ,funny you bring that up why are we letting the insurance companies make alot of the decisions now with our current health care. now back to your post all you are doing is scare tactics to frighten the old people
I dont see doctors screaming about insurance companies like you claim/ Sure there are issues, but I dont see why you guys think the govt is somehow going to only and always have good motives and give people what they need.
What the hell planet are you people living on? The same govt that screwed up katrina, iraq, berbie madoff, etc is going to do the same to your health care.
-
nice job strawman, more of 333386 bullshit lies
-
nice job stawman, more of 333386 bullshit lies
So the govt did a good job with katrina and bernie madoff?
-
Who's job is it going to be to figure out who gets what....who! Is it going to be some Barry appointed death board...because if one of these worthless assholes denies care to my mom....I'll burn them to death. Fuck barry and his lib bullshit. This is not the job of the US gov.
-
nice job strawman, more of 333386 bullshit lies
So who chooses under Obamacare - the doctor or the govt?
Lets me save you the frustration of trying to find an answer because Clair McCaskill already said - the govt. just like Palin said.
-
Who's job is it going to be to figure out who gets what....who! Is it going to be some Barry appointed death board...because if one of these worthless assholes denies care to my mom....I'll burn them to death. Fuck barry and his lib bullshit. This is not the job of the US gov.
A mental health evaluation appears in order. ;)
-
A mental health evaluation appears in order. ;)
Yeah, for you. You cant even make up lies that well.
-
333386= lies
-
333386= lies
What did i lie about?
Is there some other entity under Obamacare other than the govt who will determine whether the scooter or CAT scan is needed?
-
you left half of what Sen. Claire McCaskill said out thats as good as a lie
-
you left half of what Sen. Claire McCaskill said out thats as good as a lie
Lets do this again Blacken:
Who determines the necessity of the scooter - the doctor or the govt?
-
did you not leave half the story out it's right here in front of us, you lied. go back and read your own post.its in black and white, and you still lie about it
-
did you not leave half the story out it's right here in front of us, you lied. go back and read your own post.its in black and white, and you still lie about it
Blacken for a third time - who determines whether someone needs a scooter under McCaskills' plan - the doctor or the govt?
-
i don't have time to play games with a glen beck moron
-
i don't have time to play games with a glen beck moron
Is that because you're too busy surfing YouTube for yet ANOTHER Glen Beck video?
-
did you not leave half the story out it's right here in front of us, you lied. go back and read your own post.its in black and white, and you still lie about it
First off answer the question, if u don't know then 3 isn't lying is he...but making a pretty educated assumption based on past government history, second I wouldn't find alotn of sollace in having Mons agree with u....he's carrying off a fraud.
-
when you only get your news from right wing propaganda then it ether makes you look like a liar or a fool
-
when you only get your news from right wing propaganda then it ether makes you look like a liar or a fool
and where do you get your news from blacken?
-
and where do you get your news from blacken?
Obviously surfing YouTube. :)
-
ha ha skip8282 said youtube again
-
cnn bbc and the weekly world news
-
when you only get your news from right wing propaganda then it ether makes you look like a liar or a fool
Show a post where anybody said they only get their news from right wing propaganda. Making stuff up doesn't make you look like a liar, it actually makes you a liar.
-
do you read 333386 posts, skippy,where do you think that shit comes from
-
I stomach NPR almost every morning..I read the NYT and Washington post online versions almost every day. PLus all the collective sites like Realclear.comn etc......and its really clear Obama is both a failure and a Marxist douchbag.
-
336, you want Medicare to stay as it is?
-
do you read 333386 posts, skippy,where do you think that shit comes from
Wall Street Journal, Politico, Wash Post. Wash Times, Bloomberg, The Hill, NYT,
ALL FAR RIGHT SOURCES RIGHT BLACKEN?
-
336, you want Medicare to stay as it is?
It cant stay like it is because it is going broke since the politicians have made promises to people that cant be met.
HOWEVER
Obama is trying to sell us on the idea that $500 billion can be found in saving in medicare itself to finance his new plan but at the same time is saying we are spending too much. WTF? ? ? ? ?
Do you realize how dumb this sounds from a logical point of view?
If we are going broke because we are spending too much, than you have to cut back, change eligibility, or raise taxes, not enact MORE SPENDING.
Also, if there is $500 billion in sanvings to be had, why dont they do that now, regardless of whether there is a plan or not? if medicaire is considered a good program, but for the waste fraud and abuse of $500 bill as he says, than why cant they just cut that out and sure up what people already like?
Medicare, like most other govt programs, was well meaning when it was enacted, but has turned into a fiscal black hole.
-
Wall Street Journal, Politico, Wash Post. Wash Times, Bloomberg, The Hill, NYT,
ALL FAR RIGHT SOURCES RIGHT BLACKEN?
Wall Street Journal, Politico, Washington Times and Bloomberg are all conservative media outlets.
-
Wall Street Journal, Politico, Washington Times and Bloomberg are all conservative media outlets.
That's fine, but the facts of the articles I post are never in dispute. The fact that Obama admn is crashing and burning under its own weight so soon is sure to be upsetting to the people who were considered "believers", but tough shit.
I posted one article that never panned out about the SS guy, but the articles from the above sources have all been proven accurate almost all the time.
-
all the sources you mentioned are credible imo, except perhaps politico.
As far Obama, I agree with you that he's not being true about what it will take to fix the system.
but he's right as far as that universal health care can bring down overall costs.
HOWEVER, whether his plan is the right way or not i have no idea.
and I'm not gonna pretend as i do.
-
It cant stay like it is because it is going broke since the politicians have made promises to people that cant be met.
HOWEVER
Obama is trying to sell us on the idea that $500 billion can be found in saving in medicare itself to finance his new plan but at the same time is saying we are spending too much. WTF? ? ? ? ?
Do you realize how dumb this sounds from a logical point of view?
If we are going broke because we are spending too much, than you have to cut back, change eligibility, or raise taxes, not enact MORE SPENDING.
Also, if there is $500 billion in sanvings to be had, why dont they do that now, regardless of whether there is a plan or not? if medicaire is considered a good program, but for the waste fraud and abuse of $500 bill as he says, than why cant they just cut that out and sure up what people already like?
Medicare, like most other govt programs, was well meaning when it was enacted, but has turned into a fiscal black hole.
In your opinion, what is the most romantic song of all time?
-
Friday, September 18, 2009
Democrat Sen. Claire McCaskill Calls for Cutting Back on Providing Motorized Wheelchairs through Medicare - Video
Here is a video report on calls by Missouri Democrat Sen. Claire McCaskill to cut back on providing motorized wheelchairs to people through Medicare. She was citing this as a place to save money and reduce Health Care costs.
Here is a perfect example of how the Democrats' Government Health Care would inevitably result in rationing of care. It has not even passed, and McCaskill is already talking about what the Government can get rid of in order to pay for their massive plan.
What do you think will happen once it passes?
http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/09/democrat-sen-claire-mccaskill-calls-for.html
As usual,,,,,,,,,,,bitch, bitch, bitch. Hahaaaaaaaaaaaa!! ;D
-
In your opinion, what is the most romantic song of all time?
Back off Bitch - Guns & Roses.
-
Mons:
Who makes the determination that the scooter is "necessary" under McCaskills' plan?
The Doctor/Patient or the Govt?
-
Mons:
Who makes the determination that the scooter is "necessary" under McCaskills' plan?
The Doctor/Patient or the Govt?
BUMP FOR AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION:
Under McCaskills' plan to save money from denying scooters and CAT scans from people she believes get these thing "unnecessarily", who makes that determination?
1. The Doctor/Patient
or
2. Government Panel?
-
Death panels too!! ::)
Yep!! And they could look a lot like the one in the UK, which let a preemie baby DIE, simply because he was born two days shy of its "minimum requirement for care".
BUMP FOR AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION:
Under McCaskills' plan to save money from denying scooters and CAT scans from people she believes get these thing "unnecessarily", who makes that determination?
1. The Doctor/Patient
or
2. Government Panel?
Are you talking about those "Hoverround" (sp?) scooters that old/obese people use?
-
more fox news bullshit,. she said to people that don't need them,not the people that are cripple or can't walk.let me see if i can make this moron proof, alot of these companies are taking advantage of Medicare by telling them they can get these scooters for free but alot of these people don't really need them. and the tax payer is paying the bill
ha
'blacken'
must be black
oops
sorry
I mean 'Afro-American'
-
more fox news bullshit,. she said to people that don't need them,not the people that are cripple or can't walk.let me see if i can make this moron proof, alot of these companies are taking advantage of Medicare by telling them they can get these scooters for free but alot of these people don't really need them. and the tax payer is paying the bill
So, the question is (once again, as 333386 put it), what entity determines who need them vs. who doesn't?
-
(http://www.thepeoplescube.com/images/Cash_for_Clankers_Medicare.png)
-
Bump for an answer to my question.
This is like the 6th times Ive asked it.
-
Bump for an answer to my question.
This is like the 6th times Ive asked it.
Mons Venus, Blacken700: Wherefore art thou?
-
Mons Venus, Blacken700: Wherefore art thou?
They know that a truthful answer to my question confirms Palins' facebook posting.
There is nothing on earth more distasteful to the 2009 lib/dem than admitting that Palin was correct on something.
-
They know that a truthful answer to my question confirms Palins' facebook posting.
There is nothing on earth more distasteful to the 2009 lib/dem than admitting that Palin was correct on something.
That appears to be true, judging by some of the reactions on my thread, regarding the U.K. woman, whose preemie baby was left to die, courtesy of the U.K. policy on infant care.
-
That appears to be true, judging by some of the reactions on my thread, regarding the U.K. woman, whose preemie baby was left to die, courtesy of the U.K. policy on infant care.
Its amazing the lengths people will go to defend almost anything so long it is "their guy". Yes it was done during Bush up until 2005.
However, we cant even have a discussion anymore on facts so long as it is perceived as being bad for Barry.
-
Its amazing the lengths people will go to defend almost anything so long it is "their guy". Yes it was done during Bush up until 2005.
However, we cant even have a discussion anymore on facts so long as it is perceived as being bad for Barry.
What we see now is what we saw back in 2005: The elected officials in power read the result of a presidental election as their license to act a fool.
-
What we see now is what we saw back in 2005: The elected officials in power read the result of a presidental election as their license to act a fool.
Good one. I remember Bushs' "political capital" speech the night of the election and wondering WTF???
Right after that, the first thing he did was push for amnesty for illegals, then Harriet Meirs and dubai ports, etc.
The only saving grace for W was Roberts and Alito.
-
Good one. I remember Bushs' "political capital" speech the night of the election and wondering WTF???
Right after that, the first thing he did was push for amnesty for illegals, then Harriet Meirs and dubai ports, etc.
The only saving grace for W was Roberts and Alito.
More so, Alito than Roberts. Many frivilous left-winged cases have taken a detour for fear of a loss, there.
How quickly the liberals forget that they were the minority party just four years ago. And they'll be there yet again, if they keep this up.