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is disproven in this picture alone! I love how Yates fans claim Yates was better than Nasser "from the side" even though pictures speak otherwise.
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is disproven in this picture alone! I love how Yates fans claim Yates was better than Nasser "from the side" even though pictures speak otherwise.
Arguing a point NO ONE ever claimed , no one said he was ' weak ' from the side just not as an imposing force as from the front he was really weak from the back . and that pic isn't anything special ??? and it's relative to who he's being compared with from the side
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bob the schmoe posted that pic because he has that pair of soiled manties in his personal collection
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how many times did nasser win the mr. o?
is disproven in this picture alone! I love how Yates fans claim Yates was better than Nasser "from the side" even though pictures speak otherwise.
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Arguing a point NO ONE ever claimed , no one said he was ' weak ' from the side just not as an imposing force as from the front he was really weak from the back . and that pic isn't anything special ??? and it's relative to who he's being compared with from the side
hahaha your words once were that Nasser was "flat as a pancake" from the side. ::)
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The Wizard Mr O 2009!
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for being a 'mass monster' he is as impressive as the graphics on Yars Revenge ..
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I wonder if another picture is to be found of someone over 280 lbs and under 6 feet with such a tiny waist and clear abs
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I wonder if another picture is to be found of someone over 280 lbs and under 6 feet with such a tiny waist and clear abs
wait for Wolf this weekend..
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hahaha your words once were that Nasser was "flat as a pancake" from the side. ::)
compared to Dorian yup yup ;) and hahahaha find me ' weak ' NOT flat ;)
Sorry Nasser thanks for playing owned by Dorian and FYI Nasser is the guy who weighs more yet you'd never know it next to Dorian ;D
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I wonder if another picture is to be found of someone over 280 lbs and under 6 feet with such a tiny waist and clear abs
A clear back to boot would mean something , so as long as the abs are clear that's all that matters? and his waist was NOT tiny seriously it may have been very good for a man that weight but using tiny doesn't apply
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compared to Dorian yup yup ;) and hahahaha find me ' weak ' NOT flat ;)
Sorry Nasser thanks for playing owned by Dorian and FYI Nasser is the guy who weighs more yet you'd never know it next to Dorian ;D
in all fairness nassar isnt turning as much as Doz
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compared to Dorian yup yup ;) and hahahaha find me ' weak ' NOT flat ;)
Sorry Nasser thanks for playing owned by Dorian and FYI Nasser is the guy who weighs more yet you'd never know it next to Dorian ;D
hahaha How is Dorian "owning" Nasser in this pic? Because Dorian is holding his left arm further behind that makes his physique better? ??? If you looked at it objectively you would note that Nasser is showing greater chest thickness, more defined arms, much tigher waist and thicker quads. Brutal self ownage by posting a pic where Nasser looks better
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[the_swami] QFT!! Great post as usual, Bobs. The wizard looks unreal there.
Only the nuthuggers would claim something as silly as huge Nasser being weak from the sides.
300 lb with abs, movie star good looks and a staggering intellect are all trademarks of the wizard that make the pumpkinheads jealous. I could look at the pic all day long. God I wish I was on the receiving end of his 7 seconds of fury like I am in my dreams.
Long live Team Nasser!!![/the_swami]
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is disproven in this picture alone! I love how Yates fans claim Yates was better than Nasser "from the side" even though pictures speak otherwise.
Here is a clue, Nasser is a washed up hasbeen who never won an Olympia.Hope that helps.
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hahaha How is Dorian "owning" Nasser in this pic? Because Dorian is holding his left arm further behind that makes his physique better? ??? If you looked at it objectively you would note that Nasser is showing greater chest thickness, more defined arms, much tigher waist and thicker quads. Brutal self ownage by posting a pic where Nasser looks better
yeah okay Hulkster which is exactly why Nasser won that contest with straight firsts , hey wait a moment NO he didn't ;D
Dorian is crushing Nasser in that pic because he's harder , drier , better balanced , although lighter appears just as big if not bigger , because he doesn't look as narrow from the side as Nasser another clear case of Dorian showing his physique off to it's best advantage and Nasser NOT
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in all fairness nassar isnt turning as much as Doz
Thanks for noticing Nasser doesn't know how to pose. ;D
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[the_swami] QFT!! Great post as usual, Bobs. The wizard looks unreal there.
Only the nuthuggers would claim something as silly as huge Nasser being weak from the sides.
300 lb with abs, movie star good looks and a staggering intellect are all trademarks of the wizard that make the pumpkinheads jealous. I could look at the pic all day long. God I wish I was on the receiving end of his 7 seconds of fury like I am in my dreams.
Long live Team Nasser!!![/the_swami]
The great and power Swami has spoken , pay no attention to bigbobs behind the curtain
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yeah okay Hulkster which is exactly why Nasser won that contest with straight firsts , hey wait a moment NO he didn't ;D
Dorian is crushing Nasser in that pic because he's harder , drier , better balanced , although lighter appears just as big if not bigger , because he doesn't look as narrow from the side as Nasser another clear case of Dorian showing his physique off to it's best advantage and Nasser NOT
All traits you claim are opposite of what the picture itself shows - but oh yeah Dorian was a unique specimen in that pictures always worked against him relative to others. ::)
Anyone with half a brain can tell that nasser is not "more narrow" in that shot, Dorian is just twisting his arm out more. Despite this Dorian's waist caves out he can barely hold below his chest ;)
Also I believe that shot is from 97 where they both weighed the same.
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Nasser's chest looks at least twice as thick as Dorian's here :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=299162.0;attach=340698;image)
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Nassers legs are destroying Dorian's from the side. And Nasser just didn't open up to the side and Dorian was more like 3/4 of the way turned around.
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All traits you claim are opposite of what the picture itself shows - but oh yeah Dorian was a unique specimen in that pictures always worked against him relative to others. ::)
Anyone with half a brain can tell that nasser is not "more narrow" in that shot, Dorian is just twisting his arm out more. Despite this Dorian's waist caves out he can barely hold below his chest ;)
Also I believe that shot is from 97 where they both weighed the same.
1995 Olympia ;)
yeah that pic proves why Dorian destroyed Nasser that year as well as any other ;) if you argue to the contrary you're arguing with bodybuilding history something you're fond of
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Nasser's chest looks at least twice as thick as Dorian's here :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=299162.0;attach=340698;image)
lmfao sure it does ::)
twice is thick , this is twice as thick for future reference ;)
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Dorian's sheer back thickness is evident in the side shots, where as with Nasser you cant see his lats at all
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Dorian's sheer back thickness is evident in the side shots, where as with Nasser you cant see his lats at all
fuck... ::) ... look at how each man is standing... nasser isn't opened up like dorian
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Dorian's sheer back thickness is evident in the side shots, where as with Nasser you cant see his lats at all
Thank you ! someone who gets it .
Dorian on Nasser in 97
Q ] And likewise in 1997, when Nasser El Sonbaty came second?
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Nasser from the front was phenomenal and in some poses from the front there is no doubt he beat me. But from the side he is very narrow and from the back there is no comparison really. You have to look at it logically. Let's say he beat me in the front relaxed pose and the front double bicep.
I will give him this. Did he beat me in the side triceps? No. In either of the back poses? No. Abs and thighs was close. So no, I don't think he deserved to win although he did look very good that year. But he looked good from certain angles. Some physiques you can't judge from a photograph; you have to be there.
Everyone who sees my physique in person always comments on how much better I look in person than in pictures. That's because my physique is thick and developed from all angles. From the front, from the back, from the side, standing on my head: it doesn't matter. Everywhere is fully developed from every angle. And this might not show in one-dimensional photos. When you turn somebody to the side and they are twice as thick as everyone else, then that shows up.
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nasser is a gypsy.
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Dorian's sheer back thickness is evident in the side shots, where as with Nasser you cant see his lats at all
He's holding his left arm further back, that's why you can see his lat. In the first picture in this thread Nasser is holding his arm further back too, and hence you can see his lat.
lmfao sure it does ::)
twice is thick , this is twice as thick for future reference ;)
Compare both pecs and you'll see Nasser's are much thicker - thinking anything to the contrary is just blindness.
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fuck... ::) ... look at how each man is standing... nasser isn't opened up like dorian
doesn't matter his back thickness doesn't compare to Dorian anyway
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This guy is insignificant in BB today.
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Thank you ! someone who gets it .
Dorian on Nasser in 97
Q ] And likewise in 1997, when Nasser El Sonbaty came second?
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Nasser from the front was phenomenal and in some poses from the front there is no doubt he beat me. But from the side he is very narrow and from the back there is no comparison really. You have to look at it logically. Let's say he beat me in the front relaxed pose and the front double bicep.
I will give him this. Did he beat me in the side triceps? No. In either of the back poses? No. Abs and thighs was close. So no, I don't think he deserved to win although he did look very good that year. But he looked good from certain angles. Some physiques you can't judge from a photograph; you have to be there.
Everyone who sees my physique in person always comments on how much better I look in person than in pictures. That's because my physique is thick and developed from all angles. From the front, from the back, from the side, standing on my head: it doesn't matter. Everywhere is fully developed from every angle. And this might not show in one-dimensional photos. When you turn somebody to the side and they are twice as thick as everyone else, then that shows up.
LMFAO he's basically saying, "Pictures put me at a disadvantage yet not my competitors?" ::)
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Nasser's chest looks at least twice as thick as Dorian's here :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=299162.0;attach=340698;image)
Who won?
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He's holding his left arm further back, that's why you can see his lat. In the first picture in this thread Nasser is holding his arm further back too, and hence you can see his lat.
Compare both pecs and you'll see Nasser's are much thicker - thinking anything to the contrary is just blindness.
No , no according to you he's twice as thick ::) bullshit plain & simple look at the pic of Yates V Haney and see what twice as thick looks like and typical bob even entertaining it was true all you just did is post areas where you think he has an advantage , and ignore the rest and claim a hallow victory ::) NOT how it works sport no place for cherry picking
and I'm glad you even admit he can't pose ;D and see what Yates has to say ;)
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fuck... ::) ... look at how each man is standing... nasser isn't opened up like dorian
QFT - the simplicity with which these guys think is mind-boggling at times!
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No , no according to you he's twice as thick ::) bullshit plain & simple look at the pic of Yates V Haney and see what twice as thick looks like and typical bob even entertaining it was true all you just did is post areas where you think he has an advantage , and ignore the rest and claim a hallow victory ::) NOT how it works sport no place for cherry picking
and I'm glad you even admit he can't pose ;D and see what Yates has to say ;)
Honest question, whose chest is thicker in that picture? Let's see if you can swallow your pride and answer a question honestly without dodging.
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All i'm gonna say is that if I had to pick a physique to have between these two i'd go with Nasser 1997. Sure Dorian might've had a bit better back, but Nasser had better everything else... including midsection.
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All i'm gonna say is that if I had to pick a physique to have between these two i'd go with Nasser 1997. Sure Dorian might've had a bit better back, but Nasser had better everything else... including midsection.
Who won that year?
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LMFAO he's basically saying, "Pictures put me at a disadvantage yet not my competitors?" ::)
He's saying the truth something you can't seem to grasp , Nasser was better than him that year in the standing relaxed and front double biceps and came close on the ab-thigh and left for dead everywhere else , verified by the judges and reality
and yeah it's really easy to ascertain three dimensional thickness from two dimensional photos ::) good thing contests were judged live & in person and not via the internet
reality puts Dorian at an clear advantage vs his competitors ;)
JohnnyTosh GetBig 12-20-07
Hulkster, I have one question for you? .... Were you there in Long Beach in 97? Because I was. AND I was there in 93 & 95 in Atlanta & 96 in Chicago. It's been said a million times. Yates has a Thickness & density from every angle that had to be seen in person, and that NOBODY else had.
I think Milos is awesome. I would LOVE to have his body, but Yates smoked everybody in the totality of ALL poses. From the side & from the back, yates crushed everybody.
Unless you were there, you cannot really say accurately. BTW, Demilia gave me tickets right behind the judges every year.
Not flaming, but Yates reigned supreme.. YES. HIS GUT was sticking out in 97 & Nasser looked as good, or maybe a hair better from the front in 97, but when they turned to the side & rear, DORIAN ruled again.
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Thank you ! someone who gets it .
Dorian on Nasser in 97
Q ] And likewise in 1997, when Nasser El Sonbaty came second?
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Nasser from the front was phenomenal and in some poses from the front there is no doubt he beat me. But from the side he is very narrow and from the back there is no comparison really. You have to look at it logically. Let's say he beat me in the front relaxed pose and the front double bicep.
I will give him this. Did he beat me in the side triceps? No. In either of the back poses? No. Abs and thighs was close. So no, I don't think he deserved to win although he did look very good that year. But he looked good from certain angles. Some physiques you can't judge from a photograph; you have to be there.
Everyone who sees my physique in person always comments on how much better I look in person than in pictures. That's because my physique is thick and developed from all angles. From the front, from the back, from the side, standing on my head: it doesn't matter. Everywhere is fully developed from every angle. And this might not show in one-dimensional photos. When you turn somebody to the side and they are twice as thick as everyone else, then that shows up.
Nasser on Dorian in 97:
Q ] Having controversially lost the 1997 Mr. Olympia title, when many people thought you should have won, how did you take this result and why do you think the judges placed you second?
Yes definitely. That is a fact (I should have won the 1997 Mr. Olympia). When I did not receive the Sandow in 1997 I realized that there is no fair competition (in pro bodybuilding). I realized it earlier but, again, in 1997 it was more obvious than ever before.
In 1994 I came in second at the Night of Champions in New York City. I think that I should have won that specific show, but they let Mike Francois, as the reigning USA champion, take the title.
I was just the unknown, or better, the "unimportant" guy from Europe. The title stayed in the U.S. and Nasser went back to Europe. Besides, another European called Dorian Yates was already holding the Mr. Olympia title.
And to come back to 1997 (Mr. Olympia), Flex Wheeler came to me after the prejudging (which was on a Friday, so that they had the finals on Saturday - in order for them to generate more entrance ticket money in Long Beach, California) and told me backstage if I knew that they would not give me my very deserved title. I did not say too much because I hoped that he was wrong. But as we all know, Dorian Yates won the Olympia again, the very next day.
He won despite a huge belly (looking like he was pregnant in the sixth month), a waist like a drum, a torn up left biceps, a freshly torn left triceps, a quad tear left, a quad tear right, a torn right hip.
He won it with a perfect score, which was just unbelievable. This was a completely staged outcome and the biggest bodybuilding robbery of the 20th century by the clique of judges who "judged".
I also have to say that some judges had Dorian Yates even in third and fourth place, because about 13 judges judged officially. I think you just use seven of the score sheets. But these judges' (who scored Dorian lower) score sheets had not been used and some of the judges' had then been removed from the judging panel because they did not produce what was expected of them to produce.
There are multiple reasons why I did not win. Some judges did not want to upset their friend Dorian and they did not want him to go out of bodybuilding with a defeat after all his injuries and tears. They did not want to give another non-U.S. guy the most prestigious title in bodybuilding because it would underline the U.S. inferiority in bodybuilding compared to non-U.S. athletes.
Then definitely another reason is that I am so outspoken and not just an order follower. That I say how it is, and do not brown nose and make phone calls in order to "secure" a placement like so may others who play the official tough guy.
I have no problem calling people up, but not for the sole purpose of placing here and there in a certain spot. And I am, for too many people, far too educated and too intelligent. And they realized I could be a danger to them if I was the new titleholder.
And last but not least, when people saw my body they figured they couldn't achieve that. Before doing this they would rather be dead. So I was also physically too freaky and too big, even for pro bodybuilding. And I was also critical about judges and co-competitors and did not deny it when I was questioned about that.
[ Q ] You say your physique was too freaky and too massive; sounds like you were ahead of your time. How would you personally describe your physique and just what made you the best bodybuilder onstage at the 1997 Mr. Olympia?
The best proof of my superior physique over everyone else's physique can be seen on the 1997 Olympia tape. This says it all. But I would still like to make some statements.
I had, compared to 1997 Mr. Olympia title winner, Dorian Yates, the better built and the better, god given genetic structure with even nicer looking veins. I did not have one torn muscle like he had so many, many torn muscles. My body is more proportioned and more, way more symmetrical.
I had the better waist (also the best V-taper, shoulders/waistline), better and tighter abs, paper thin skin, better triceps, better biceps, better shoulders, better chest, better hams, and better quads. I was tighter, harder and fresher in appearance (because I did not have a couple of week-old triceps tears which had not even been attempted to have been fixed surgically, otherwise Yates wouldn't have been able to step on stage).
Then I heard the big BS - "... but Dorian had him (Nasser) from the back." The only body part I give Yates when he supposedly had me was his tremendous lower back development but not his thickness or back width.
The Olympia is not a lower back contest. An Olympia title is not to be given out to the best lower back - otherwise why do all of us still train all of the other body parts?
My general opinion of that show, the 1997 two-day Olympia, is that I got robbed live in front of thousands of people but with no consequences for anyone but me and a few judges who did not judge according to that which was expected of them, that what was suggested to them.
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Honest question, whose chest is thicker in that picture? Let's see if you can swallow your pride and answer a question honestly without dodging.
Honest question whose chest is TWICE as thick in that picture? you know what about honesty? not much like your hero
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Nasser on Dorian in 97:
Q ] Having controversially lost the 1997 Mr. Olympia title, when many people thought you should have won, how did you take this result and why do you think the judges placed you second?
Yes definitely. That is a fact (I should have won the 1997 Mr. Olympia). When I did not receive the Sandow in 1997 I realized that there is no fair competition (in pro bodybuilding). I realized it earlier but, again, in 1997 it was more obvious than ever before.
In 1994 I came in second at the Night of Champions in New York City. I think that I should have won that specific show, but they let Mike Francois, as the reigning USA champion, take the title.
I was just the unknown, or better, the "unimportant" guy from Europe. The title stayed in the U.S. and Nasser went back to Europe. Besides, another European called Dorian Yates was already holding the Mr. Olympia title.
And to come back to 1997 (Mr. Olympia), Flex Wheeler came to me after the prejudging (which was on a Friday, so that they had the finals on Saturday - in order for them to generate more entrance ticket money in Long Beach, California) and told me backstage if I knew that they would not give me my very deserved title. I did not say too much because I hoped that he was wrong. But as we all know, Dorian Yates won the Olympia again, the very next day.
He won despite a huge belly (looking like he was pregnant in the sixth month), a waist like a drum, a torn up left biceps, a freshly torn left triceps, a quad tear left, a quad tear right, a torn right hip.
He won it with a perfect score, which was just unbelievable. This was a completely staged outcome and the biggest bodybuilding robbery of the 20th century by the clique of judges who "judged".
I also have to say that some judges had Dorian Yates even in third and fourth place, because about 13 judges judged officially. I think you just use seven of the score sheets. But these judges' (who scored Dorian lower) score sheets had not been used and some of the judges' had then been removed from the judging panel because they did not produce what was expected of them to produce.
There are multiple reasons why I did not win. Some judges did not want to upset their friend Dorian and they did not want him to go out of bodybuilding with a defeat after all his injuries and tears. They did not want to give another non-U.S. guy the most prestigious title in bodybuilding because it would underline the U.S. inferiority in bodybuilding compared to non-U.S. athletes.
Then definitely another reason is that I am so outspoken and not just an order follower. That I say how it is, and do not brown nose and make phone calls in order to "secure" a placement like so may others who play the official tough guy.
I have no problem calling people up, but not for the sole purpose of placing here and there in a certain spot. And I am, for too many people, far too educated and too intelligent. And they realized I could be a danger to them if I was the new titleholder.
And last but not least, when people saw my body they figured they couldn't achieve that. Before doing this they would rather be dead. So I was also physically too freaky and too big, even for pro bodybuilding. And I was also critical about judges and co-competitors and did not deny it when I was questioned about that.
[ Q ] You say your physique was too freaky and too massive; sounds like you were ahead of your time. How would you personally describe your physique and just what made you the best bodybuilder onstage at the 1997 Mr. Olympia?
The best proof of my superior physique over everyone else's physique can be seen on the 1997 Olympia tape. This says it all. But I would still like to make some statements.
I had, compared to 1997 Mr. Olympia title winner, Dorian Yates, the better built and the better, god given genetic structure with even nicer looking veins. I did not have one torn muscle like he had so many, many torn muscles. My body is more proportioned and more, way more symmetrical.
I had the better waist (also the best V-taper, shoulders/waistline), better and tighter abs, paper thin skin, better triceps, better biceps, better shoulders, better chest, better hams, and better quads. I was tighter, harder and fresher in appearance (because I did not have a couple of week-old triceps tears which had not even been attempted to have been fixed surgically, otherwise Yates wouldn't have been able to step on stage).
Then I heard the big BS - "... but Dorian had him (Nasser) from the back." The only body part I give Yates when he supposedly had me was his tremendous lower back development but not his thickness or back width.
The Olympia is not a lower back contest. An Olympia title is not to be given out to the best lower back - otherwise why do all of us still train all of the other body parts?
My general opinion of that show, the 1997 two-day Olympia, is that I got robbed live in front of thousands of people but with no consequences for anyone but me and a few judges who did not judge according to that which was expected of them, that what was suggested to them.
The Wizard of rambling bitterness.
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YES. HIS GUT was sticking out in 97 & Nasser looked as good, or maybe a hair better from the front in 97
ahahahahahaha!!! Only a "hair" better from the front ::) ::)
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Who won that year?
You must be kidding... EVERYONE knows Nasser made Dorian look like SHIT that year... enough with that crap.
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Honest question whose chest is TWICE as thick in that picture? you know what about honesty? not much like your hero
Dodged my question, just as I expected ;)
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Who won that year?
Dorian won. That's an easy answer. The question at hand is whether it was fair.
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Dorian won. That's an easy answer. The question at hand is whether it was fair.
Dorian - 6
Nasser - 0
End of debate. Put it to bed now.
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Bigbobs yet again destroy the lies and propaganda spread by the anti-Nasser, alliance of failures and unemployed underclass. Look how quickly nastysissy diety reply to Bob's excellent thread - within a minute. This guy have nothing to do but do the bidding of the Yates creature/burglar/ defrauder of rightful Mr Olympias!!
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Dorian - 6
Nasser - 0
End of debate. Put it to bed now.
Typical pumpkinhead whose brain capacity is not beyond reading contest results decided on by others and can not think or assess for oneself as to whether the results are fair or justified.
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Bigbobs yet again destroy the lies and propaganda spread by the anti-Nasser, alliance of failures and unemployed underclass. Look how quickly nastysissy diety reply to Bob's excellent thread - within a minute. This guy have nothing to do but do the bidding of the Yates creature/burglar/ defrauder of rightful Mr Olympias!!
Hahahaha, yes it is true that ND sits all day and clicks "refresh" on getbig in hopes that Hulkster or one of us creates a thread for him to reply to all day and night to help pass time from his boring day ;D
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Typical pumpkinhead whose brain capacity is not beyond reading contest results decided on by others and can not think or assess for oneself as to whether the results are fair or justified.
Typical Nasshole supporter...blinded by the fact that their leader got his thong in a twist because he got his ass handed to him every year. How many Mr O's did Nasshole win? Soft watery back, oily arms, oily delts and bad posing. Sorry Bobs.
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Nasser is delusional. His back wasn't just bad, it was terrible. TERRIBLE.
You can't expect to win the biggest contest of the year when you're lacking such a major bodypart.
The wizard of synthol and soiled manties has no one to blame but himself. He knew he needed to improve his back yet he didn't.
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Nasser on Dorian in 97:
Q ] Having controversially lost the 1997 Mr. Olympia title, when many people thought you should have won, how did you take this result and why do you think the judges placed you second?
Yes definitely. That is a fact (I should have won the 1997 Mr. Olympia). When I did not receive the Sandow in 1997 I realized that there is no fair competition (in pro bodybuilding). I realized it earlier but, again, in 1997 it was more obvious than ever before.
In 1994 I came in second at the Night of Champions in New York City. I think that I should have won that specific show, but they let Mike Francois, as the reigning USA champion, take the title.
I was just the unknown, or better, the "unimportant" guy from Europe. The title stayed in the U.S. and Nasser went back to Europe. Besides, another European called Dorian Yates was already holding the Mr. Olympia title.
And to come back to 1997 (Mr. Olympia), Flex Wheeler came to me after the prejudging (which was on a Friday, so that they had the finals on Saturday - in order for them to generate more entrance ticket money in Long Beach, California) and told me backstage if I knew that they would not give me my very deserved title. I did not say too much because I hoped that he was wrong. But as we all know, Dorian Yates won the Olympia again, the very next day.
He won despite a huge belly (looking like he was pregnant in the sixth month), a waist like a drum, a torn up left biceps, a freshly torn left triceps, a quad tear left, a quad tear right, a torn right hip.
He won it with a perfect score, which was just unbelievable. This was a completely staged outcome and the biggest bodybuilding robbery of the 20th century by the clique of judges who "judged".
I also have to say that some judges had Dorian Yates even in third and fourth place, because about 13 judges judged officially. I think you just use seven of the score sheets. But these judges' (who scored Dorian lower) score sheets had not been used and some of the judges' had then been removed from the judging panel because they did not produce what was expected of them to produce.
There are multiple reasons why I did not win. Some judges did not want to upset their friend Dorian and they did not want him to go out of bodybuilding with a defeat after all his injuries and tears. They did not want to give another non-U.S. guy the most prestigious title in bodybuilding because it would underline the U.S. inferiority in bodybuilding compared to non-U.S. athletes.
Then definitely another reason is that I am so outspoken and not just an order follower. That I say how it is, and do not brown nose and make phone calls in order to "secure" a placement like so may others who play the official tough guy.
I have no problem calling people up, but not for the sole purpose of placing here and there in a certain spot. And I am, for too many people, far too educated and too intelligent. And they realized I could be a danger to them if I was the new titleholder.
And last but not least, when people saw my body they figured they couldn't achieve that. Before doing this they would rather be dead. So I was also physically too freaky and too big, even for pro bodybuilding. And I was also critical about judges and co-competitors and did not deny it when I was questioned about that.
[ Q ] You say your physique was too freaky and too massive; sounds like you were ahead of your time. How would you personally describe your physique and just what made you the best bodybuilder onstage at the 1997 Mr. Olympia?
The best proof of my superior physique over everyone else's physique can be seen on the 1997 Olympia tape. This says it all. But I would still like to make some statements.
I had, compared to 1997 Mr. Olympia title winner, Dorian Yates, the better built and the better, god given genetic structure with even nicer looking veins. I did not have one torn muscle like he had so many, many torn muscles. My body is more proportioned and more, way more symmetrical.
I had the better waist (also the best V-taper, shoulders/waistline), better and tighter abs, paper thin skin, better triceps, better biceps, better shoulders, better chest, better hams, and better quads. I was tighter, harder and fresher in appearance (because I did not have a couple of week-old triceps tears which had not even been attempted to have been fixed surgically, otherwise Yates wouldn't have been able to step on stage).
Then I heard the big BS - "... but Dorian had him (Nasser) from the back." The only body part I give Yates when he supposedly had me was his tremendous lower back development but not his thickness or back width.
The Olympia is not a lower back contest. An Olympia title is not to be given out to the best lower back - otherwise why do all of us still train all of the other body parts?
My general opinion of that show, the 1997 two-day Olympia, is that I got robbed live in front of thousands of people but with no consequences for anyone but me and a few judges who did not judge according to that which was expected of them, that what was suggested to them.
what's he gonna say? the truth? hahahahahahahaha the judges spoke
Yes definitely. That is a fact (I should have won the 1997 Mr. Olympia). When I did not receive the Sandow in 1997 I realized that there is no fair competition (in pro bodybuilding). I realized it earlier but, again, in 1997 it was more obvious than ever before.
No fair competition ? all of his six wins were NOT fair then either he won using the same unfairness he's bitching about
In 1994 I came in second at the Night of Champions in New York City. I think that I should have won that specific show, but they let Mike Francois, as the reigning USA champion, take the title.
Well he doesn't judge shows of course he thinks he should have won and the old plea to letting a USA bodybuilder win , all the while the winner of the biggest competition in bodybuilding was from the UK , poor me I wasn't an American so I was robbed ::)
I was just the unknown, or better, the "unimportant" guy from Europe. The title stayed in the U.S. and Nasser went back to Europe. Besides, another European called Dorian Yates was already holding the Mr. Olympia title.
Dorian was unknown when he entered the NOC and LOST to Momo another non-American BTW and so he figured out the plot . we can't have two European champions lol conspiracy anyone?
And to come back to 1997 (Mr. Olympia), Flex Wheeler came to me after the prejudging (which was on a Friday, so that they had the finals on Saturday - in order for them to generate more entrance ticket money in Long Beach, California) and told me backstage if I knew that they would not give me my very deserved title. I did not say too much because I hoped that he was wrong. But as we all know, Dorian Yates won the Olympia again, the very next day.
Wow validation from Flex Wheeler case closed ::) the same guy who said he was attacked by Ninjas , not a source with much credibility and I always love how Nasser eludes that he was let in on the scam before the fact backstage , he's always playing the victim like Mike Mattarazzo and the diuretics test in 96
He won despite a huge belly (looking like he was pregnant in the sixth month), a waist like a drum, a torn up left biceps, a freshly torn left triceps, a quad tear left, a quad tear right, a torn right hip.
he did have a huge belly when fully relaxed a thing he did a lot at this show not whilst he was flexing , the only tear was the triceps all other tears were old which he has NO problem with in 1995 when he admitted he was trounced
He won it with a perfect score, which was just unbelievable. This was a completely staged outcome and the biggest bodybuilding robbery of the 20th century by the clique of judges who "judged".
no unbelievable when you know how contests are judged , he could lose poses and seeing the high & low scores are tossed can still with with a perfect score , I was robbed , I'm a victim , blah , blah , blah , ALL of his wins the judging was fair ::)
I also have to say that some judges had Dorian Yates even in third and fourth place, because about 13 judges judged officially. I think you just use seven of the score sheets. But these judges' (who scored Dorian lower) score sheets had not been used and some of the judges' had then been removed from the judging panel because they did not produce what was expected of them to produce.
stupid hello? highs & low scores are tossed out , and more hearsay by Nasser not producing one shred of evidence as usual
There are multiple reasons why I did not win. Some judges did not want to upset their friend Dorian and they did not want him to go out of bodybuilding with a defeat after all his injuries and tears. They did not want to give another non-U.S. guy the most prestigious title in bodybuilding because it would underline the U.S. inferiority in bodybuilding compared to non-U.S. athletes.
The judges didn't know Dorian was retiring NO ONE knew until 1998 so much for that theory . the are multiple reasons you didn't win yeah because you weren't good enough but have to pushing the issue of latent racism and xenophobia which is again a trend with him , it can't be him it has to be everyone else , the system is against him
Then definitely another reason is that I am so outspoken and not just an order follower. That I say how it is, and do not brown nose and make phone calls in order to "secure" a placement like so may others who play the official tough guy.
And if you were you would win some how? the old outside man more of his victimization plea
I have no problem calling people up, but not for the sole purpose of placing here and there in a certain spot. And I am, for too many people, far too educated and too intelligent. And they realized I could be a danger to them if I was the new titleholder.
yes the threat known as Nasser El Sonbaty , the outsider who was going to stir up the whole machine lol it's funny how he creates this whole persona instead of just admitting he simply wasn't good enough
And last but not least, when people saw my body they figured they couldn't achieve that. Before doing this they would rather be dead. So I was also physically too freaky and too big, even for pro bodybuilding. And I was also critical about judges and co-competitors and did not deny it when I was questioned about that.
Yes you were just to much for the establishment to handle , they couldn't market you to anyone because you were 270 pounds in 1997 and yet the winner was the same weight lmfao Nasser was bigger than the sport
[ Q ] You say your physique was too freaky and too massive; sounds like you were ahead of your time. How would you personally describe your physique and just what made you the best bodybuilder onstage at the 1997 Mr. Olympia?
The best proof of my superior physique over everyone else's physique can be seen on the 1997 Olympia tape. This says it all. But I would still like to make some statements.
yeah he was really ahead of his time ::) Dorian was 300 pounds in 1993 offseason , 269 pounds in near contest shape in 1993 , 282 pounds in 1995 in near contest shape , while Nasser was placing 15th ::) yeah really ahead of the curve
I had, compared to 1997 Mr. Olympia title winner, Dorian Yates, the better built and the better, god given genetic structure with even nicer looking veins. I did not have one torn muscle like he had so many, many torn muscles. My body is more proportioned and more, way more symmetrical.
lmfao nicer looking veins ? knitpicking ? he didn't have any torn muscles true he also had NO back either he may have been more proportional and ' symmetrical ' he was also softer & not as dry but typical Nasser picks his strengths ignores his weaknesses and states his case NOT how it works which he found out but never learned
I had the better waist (also the best V-taper, shoulders/waistline), better and tighter abs, paper thin skin, better triceps, better biceps, better shoulders, better chest, better hams, and better quads. I was tighter, harder and fresher in appearance (because I did not have a couple of week-old triceps tears which had not even been attempted to have been fixed surgically, otherwise Yates wouldn't have been able to step on stage).
And contests are judges on who has better parts it's who has better poses based on ALL of the criteria not some of it
Then I heard the big BS - "... but Dorian had him (Nasser) from the back." The only body part I give Yates when he supposedly had me was his tremendous lower back development but not his thickness or back width.
The Olympia is not a lower back contest. An Olympia title is not to be given out to the best lower back - otherwise why do all of us still train all of the other body parts?
My general opinion of that show, the 1997 two-day Olympia, is that I got robbed live in front of thousands of people but with no consequences for anyone but me and a few judges who did not judge according to that which was expected of them, that what was suggested to them.
Dorian beats him in width AND thickness NO contest and lower back and every single part of the back , the Olympia isn't a lower back contest duh it's not a " I have better parts ' contest either , Dorian beat him in the back double biceps POSE the rear latspread POSE the standing relaxed from the back POSE he beat him in the side triceps & side chest POSE the front latspread POSE the 1/4 turn POSES which is why he won
12 years latter still crying , he's a bitter man who is lacking in his life , Lee Labrada was similar in he came close to winner the Olympia and didn't , you don't see him crying and bitching about how he was a victim , he's a real class act who has a life now and isn't crying about the glory days
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Dodged my question, just as I expected ;)
I answered your question you didn't like the answer
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Hahahaha, yes it is true that ND sits all day and clicks "refresh" on getbig in hopes that Hulkster or one of us creates a thread for him to reply to all day and night to help pass time from his boring day ;D
When you have nothing try the old personal attacks ;) thanks for admitting you have nothing to offer and I don't have to worry about you or Hulkster trolling the boards that's a given
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When you have nothing try the old personal attacks ;) thanks for admitting you have nothing to offer and I don't have to worry about you or Hulkster trolling the boards that's a given
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Sorry if I hurt your feelings, I didn't mean that as a "personal attack," just throwing some humour in the mix :) After all, it is true that you were the first to reply and within a minute, and you always give Hulkster a hard time for doing that to your posts :D
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I answered your question you didn't like the answer
Nope, the question was simple - "whose chest is thicker in that comparison?" - and has two simple options to chose from - a) Nasser or b) Dorian. You chose neither hence you dodged the question.
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nasser looks small
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Sorry if I hurt your feelings, I didn't mean that as a "personal attack," just throwing some humour in the mix :) After all, it is true that you were the first to reply and within a minute, and you always give Hulkster a hard time for doing that to your posts :D
Wow you internet-hurt my feelings , that's you making assumptions again Bobs , I said when you can't counter the argument you look to attack the messenger it's a sign of frustration has nothing to do with hurt feelings , you want my feelings to be hurt hence why you typed it
and I'm online I average 13 posts a day if you think that's living on here so be it , when I get to your comrades posting average like Dave 33 a day then you can comment and once again Bigbobs get it's wrong again , I don't give Hulkster a hard time for that just for following me into every single thread big difference
You and the gimmick known as sharma just troll the same spam about Nasser as usual and when anyone proves your nonsense to be dribble you attack the person typing , typical of those who don't have much to offer
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Sorry if I hurt your feelings, I didn't mean that as a "personal attack," just throwing some humour in the mix :) After all, it is true that you were the first to reply and within a minute, and you always give Hulkster a hard time for doing that to your posts :D
LOL. Excellent post. Nastydiet do take this a little bit personal but then again, they call the TEAM obsessed but he spend all his life here arguing for the gut of Dorian. Maybe when he see those torn up arms and bloated, drowned cadaver belly he feel defensive?
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Wow you internet-hurt my feelings , that's you making assumptions again Bobs , I said when you can't counter the argument you look to attack the messenger it's a sign of frustration has nothing to do with hurt feelings , you want my feelings to be hurt hence why you typed it
and I'm online I average 13 posts a day if you think that's living on here so be it , when I get to your comrades posting average like Dave 33 a day then you can comment and once again Bigbobs get it's wrong again , I don't give Hulkster a hard time for that just for following me into every single thread big difference
You and the gimmick known as sharma just troll the same spam about Nasser as usual and when anyone proves your nonsense to be dribble you attack the person typing , typical of those who don't have much to offer
Whoa, never knew you had such conspiracy theories. Whose "gimmick" do you think Sharma is? Remember your other conspiracy theory that Sherief Shalaby was a "gimmick" and not even in Egypt LOL.
As for the "personal attack" - Sharma noted (and correctly) that you followed me into this thread by replying within a minute, and I laughed and agreed with him in my reply. You would like to think that had something to do with us having "nothing left to offer" or as being a sign of frustration, when in fact I have offered picture evidence and reasoned along with them, and in response you can not even answer a simple question I posed to you.
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Nope, the question was simple - "whose chest is thicker in that comparison?" - and has two simple options to chose from - a) Nasser or b) Dorian. You chose neither hence you dodged the question.
Nasser's chest is NOT thicker than Dorian's in that pose and sure as fuck not ' twice as thick ' as you claimed . Dorian's left arm if extended so his pec looks less full because it's not contracted his right pec looks at the least equally thick as Nassers and you're just flat out delusional to claim it's twice as thick and even entertaining it was slightly thicker means what? he's much heavier it should be so either way you're not working with much considering it's once again NOT a part contest
who is doing the pose correctly? who has better balance between his upper & lower body? who has short legs and a long torso? who is harder & drier? who looks at least as big if not bigger despite being lighter? I mean stop cherry picking
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LOL. Excellent post. Nastydiet do take this a little bit personal but then again, they call the TEAM obsessed but he spend all his life here arguing for the gut of Dorian. Maybe when he see those torn up arms and bloated, drowned cadaver belly he feel defensive?
Funny how he always accuses Hulkster of "trolling" and "following him" yet he does the same and when called on it (like you did today) he cries that we're "personally attacking" him because we have nothing to offer lol.
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You and the gimmick known as sharma just troll the same spam about Nasser as usual and when anyone proves your nonsense to be dribble you attack the person typing , typical of those who don't have much to offer
Epic and most brutal off all hypocrisy ever seen!!
Bobs is respectful, humorous and intelligent. He also give others their due. You, on the other hand, sabotage virtually EVERY single thread about bodybuilding by having the same spam and troll argument with the same guys.
You actually do more harm than anyone do as you try to ignite everything into the Yates monstrosity VS Coleman . You post more spam and same shit over and over than TEAM ever do.
HAHAH Unbelievable
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Funny how he always accuses Hulkster of "trolling" and "following him" yet he does the same and when called on it (like you did today) he cries that we're "personally attacking" him because we have nothing to offer lol.
Bobs, his hypocrisy is so staggering I wonder if he is just simply trolling us. Surely he cannot be so addicted to Ron's paradise and bereft of even a meagre social life that he cannot see it?
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Whoa, never knew you had such conspiracy theories. Whose "gimmick" do you think Sharma is? Remember your other conspiracy theory that Sherief Shalaby was a "gimmick" and not even in Egypt LOL.
As for the "personal attack" - Sharma noted (and correctly) that you followed me into this thread by replying within a minute, and I laughed and agreed with him in my reply. You would like to think that had something to do with us having "nothing left to offer" or as being a sign of frustration, when in fact I have offered picture evidence and reasoned along with them, and in response you can not even answer a simple question I posed to you.
Whoa, never knew you had such conspiracy theories. Whose "gimmick" do you think Sharma is? Remember your other conspiracy theory that Sherief Shalaby was a "gimmick" and not even in Egypt LOL.
please spare us the nonsense sharma is a gimmick ( duh ) whose? I could care less
As for the "personal attack" - Sharma noted (and correctly) that you followed me into this thread by replying within a minute, and I laughed and agreed with him in my reply. You would like to think that had something to do with us having "nothing left to offer" or as being a sign of frustration, when in fact I have offered picture evidence and reasoned along with them, and in response you can not even answer a simple question I posed to you.
I did follow you into this thread and decided to comment on it and to prove you wrong , something I enjoy doing ( Kevin Levrone ring a bell? ;) ) and it was a personal attack you and him couldn't touch what I was saying so try and bad mouth the messenger , I could care less but it shows how desperate you guys can be
You posted a pic claimed we said Nasser was ' weak ' from the sides which I quickly corrected you on and proved he is narrow compared to Dorian who was lighter in the exact same pose and as far as answering your question see above , In fact I answered ALL of Nasser's statements , I don't need to run I never did it with Hulkster or anyone else why start now?
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Funny how he always accuses Hulkster of "trolling" and "following him" yet he does the same and when called on it (like you did today) he cries that we're "personally attacking" him because we have nothing to offer lol.
Wow as usual you don't know the difference , Hulkster trolls his same 99 Olympia pics in every thread , he constantly spams the board with Ronnie pics and personal attacks
and when I was sticking to the topic at hand in comes sharma to try and divert the topic from reality attack anyone who disagrees and spams the board with the same Nasser was robbed and the best ever spiel and Dorian Yates is a thief , which you including yourself gets involved in from time to time
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please spare us the nonsense sharma is a gimmick ( duh ) whose? I could care less
I did follow you into this thread and decided to comment on it and to prove you wrong , something I enjoy doing ( Kevin Levrone ring a bell? ;) ) and it was a personal attack you and him couldn't touch what I was saying so try and bad mouth the messenger , I could care less but it shows how desperate you guys can be
You posted a pic claimed we said Nasser was ' weak ' from the sides which I quickly corrected you on and proved he is narrow compared to Dorian who was lighter in the exact same pose and as far as answering your question see above , In fact I answered ALL of Nasser's statements , I don't need to run I never did it with Hulkster or anyone else why start now?
Where did sheriff go ?
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Epic and most brutal off all hypocrisy ever seen!!
Bobs is respectful, humorous and intelligent. He also give others their due. You, on the other hand, sabotage virtually EVERY single thread about bodybuilding by having the same spam and troll argument with the same guys.
You actually do more harm than anyone do as you try to ignite everything into the Yates monstrosity VS Coleman . You post more spam and same shit over and over than TEAM ever do.
HAHAH Unbelievable
projection at it's finest ! everything you just typed you sir are guilty of ;D thanks for proving my point.
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Nasser's chest is NOT thicker than Dorian's in that pose and sure as fuck not ' twice as thick ' as you claimed . Dorian's left arm if extended so his pec looks less full because it's not contracted his right pec looks at the least equally thick as Nassers
Bolded text = bullshit and you know it :)
and even entertaining it was slightly thicker means what? he's much heavier it should be so either way you're not working with much considering it's once again NOT a part contest
Not just "slightly" but much thicker, and in 95 Nasser weighed about 10 lbs more only. And competitors arent assessed as to how they look as a function of bodyweight, so it doesn't even matter who weighs more. It's like saying, "Sure Dorian is bigger than Shawn Ray but that's just because he weighs more." ::)
who is doing the pose correctly? who has better balance between his upper & lower body? who has short legs and a long torso? who is harder & drier? who looks at least as big if not bigger despite being lighter? I mean stop cherry picking
Now you're cherry picking.
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Wow as usual you don't know the difference , Hulkster trolls his same 99 Olympia pics in every thread , he constantly spams the board with Ronnie pics and personal attacks
Again, more blatant hypocrisy from hypocritic diety. You spam over and over the Kevin Horton shit, same pictures of the Yates gargoyle, bowflex pictures and pumpster quotes.
You sound like a little baby with your thirty thousand posts - many whinging like some western homo "he started it".
You have no moral highground when it come to personal attacks or spamming.
Humorless shut-in.
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please spare us the nonsense sharma is a gimmick ( duh ) whose? I could care less
What makes you think he's a gimmick? Who shares similar style as him? No one - as he is second to none with his way of words and wit. ;)
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Bobs, his hypocrisy is so staggering I wonder if he is just simply trolling us. Surely he cannot be so addicted to Ron's paradise and bereft of even a meagre social life that he cannot see it?
Oh no I don't have a social life because I post on GetBig lmao hypocrisy is a common theme with Team Nasser when your comrade quakeroats posted in defense of Nasser he was revered yet you never commented on the fact he averaged 33 posts a day , yet no questions about his social life hahahahahahaha
again thanks for proving me right
Dorian makes Nasser look narrow in this pose , Yates is outclassing Nasser by a country mile , try sticking to the topic
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Again, more blatant hypocrisy from hypocritic diety. You spam over and over the Kevin Horton shit, same pictures of the Yates gargoyle, bowflex pictures and pumpster quotes.
You sound like a little baby with your thirty thousand posts - many whinging like some western homo "he started it".
You have no moral highground when it come to personal attacks or spamming.
Humorless shut-in.
Great point - if you add up all of Team Nasser members' posts about Nasser it would still be less than the # of recycled posts by ND (almost 30,000!)
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nasser looks small
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What makes you think he's a gimmick? Who shares similar style as him? No one - as he is second to none with his way of words and wit. ;)
Bobs, you know that I am you, SS, TrueAdonis, block, the quakeroats legend !!!
Any more? I lose track of the weekly innuendo and allegations from the fevered rodent brains!!!
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Bobs, you know that I am you, SS, TrueAdonis, block, the quakeroats legend !!!
Any more? I lose track of the weekly innuendo and allegations from the fevered rodent brains!!!
What I find hilarious is that ND can not even identify whose gimmick he thinks you are because there is no one else here that has a posting style like yours, so he will just flatly conclude that you are a gimmick but does not know whose lol.
Last time he argued for pages that Sherief Shalaby was a gimmick, even though the man posts with his real name, has posted many pictures, has posted in Arabic, has a facebook account with many friends with the same pictures and name, used to post on MattC's board years ago, etc etc. Their desperation in gimmick accusations knows no bounds.
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Bolded text = bullshit and you know it :)
Not just "slightly" but much thicker, and in 95 Nasser weighed about 10 lbs more only. And competitors arent assessed as to how they look as a function of bodyweight, so it doesn't even matter who weighs more. It's like saying, "Sure Dorian is bigger than Shawn Ray but that's just because he weighs more." ::)
Now you're cherry picking.
Bolded text = bullshit and you know it :)
yeah sure it is , no , no they're twice as thick lol bullshit? you say?
Not just "slightly" but much thicker, and in 95 Nasser weighed about 10 lbs more only. And competitors arent assessed as to how they look as a function of bodyweight, so it doesn't even matter who weighs more. It's like saying, "Sure Dorian is bigger than Shawn Ray but that's just because he weighs more."
yeah twice as thick as you claimed ::) really 10 pounds? Nasser was 265? because Dorian was listed at 255 in 95 and on the video Haney says 260 either way , he still weighs more yet doesn't look it this is where muscular bulk comes into play it is after all part of the judging criteria and the is a difference between bodyweight and dense dry muscle which is why Shawn Ray could beat a soft Nasser more to bodybuilding than just weight
Now you're cherry picking.
WRONG I'm adding the rest of the criteria something you either don't know or scared to post , I've always maintained Dorian wins based on ALL the criteria not just some of it.
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Dorian makes Nasser look narrow in this pose , Yates is outclassing Nasser by a country mile , try sticking to the topic
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=299162.0;attach=340721;image)
Ok, I don't agree. Yates has turned fully and is completed the pose. Nasser is tensing and flexing to finish the pose. Yates is already in his finished position, he have better lighting (always he is allowed these favors from his judge friends) and still I think Nasser have better lines and legs. Only thing good about Yates there is his impressive lats but that all the guy had by the end. Disgraceful arms, narrow quads, ugly belly.
Nasser wins here.
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What I find hilarious is that ND can not even identify whose gimmick he thinks you are because there is no one else here that has a posting style like yours, so he will just flatly conclude that you are a gimmick but does not know whose lol.
Last time he argued for pages that Sherief Shalaby was a gimmick, even though the man posts with his real name, has posted many pictures, has posted in Arabic, has a facebook account with many friends with the same pictures and name, used to post on MattC's board years ago, etc etc. Their desperation in gimmick accusations knows no bounds.
What I find hilarious is that ND can not even identify whose gimmick he thinks you are because there is no one else here that has a posting style like yours, so he will just flatly conclude that you are a gimmick but does not know whose lol.
I don't care whose gimmick it is , he is a gimmick why? he posts sporadically only on the topic of Nasser and spams the board with the same spiel and attacks anyone who disagrees textbook gimmick because I don't know whose doesn't mean it isn't
Last time he argued for pages that Sherief Shalaby was a gimmick, even though the man posts with his real name, has posted many pictures, has posted in Arabic, has a facebook account with many friends with the same pictures and name, used to post on MattC's board years ago, etc etc. Their desperation in gimmick accusations knows no bounds.
see above most of his posts are Nasser spam even if he's not another members account , who cares about what else he posted on and when
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Still photos don't tell the story....Nasser was weak from the side.
how is it that every notable BB pundit over the years said this, but BigKnobs knows better ::)
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Ok, I don't agree. Yates has turned fully and is completed the pose. Nasser is tensing and flexing to finish the pose. Yates is already in his finished position, he have better lighting (always he is allowed these favors from his judge friends) and still I think Nasser have better lines and legs. Only thing good about Yates there is his impressive lats but that all the guy had by the end. Disgraceful arms, narrow quads, ugly belly.
Nasser wins here.
Wrong Nasser is tenses that's who he does the pose I have the video and the pic Bobs confirms that's his style ( incorrectly ) lmfao he has better lighting? ( conspiracy anyone ) how the hell would you come to that conclusion? please elaborate on this gem . Dorian is easily winning this pose based on the IFBB judging criteria
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I don't care whose gimmick it is , he is a gimmick why? he posts sporadically only on the topic of Nasser and spams the board with the same spiel and attacks anyone who disagrees textbook gimmick because I don't know whose doesn't mean it isn't
see above most of his posts are Nasser spam even if he's not another members account , who cares about what else he posted on and when
Sharma's eloquent style with words, intelligence and humour are second to none and that's all the evidence I need that he is not a gimmick. If anyone else can match him in these traits then the question would arise that they may be each others' gimmicks.
There are many posters here who chose to post mainly or even only about one topic. Only finding one or a few topics interesting enough to post about now makes one a gimmick? lol.
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Wrong Nasser is tenses that's who he does the pose I have the video and the pic Bobs confirms that's his style ( incorrectly ) lmfao he has better lighting? ( conspiracy anyone ) how the hell would you come to that conclusion? please elaborate on this gem . Dorian is easily winning this pose based on the IFBB judging criteria
Dorian is holding his arm back further and only an idiot would really think that the way he holds his arm makes him bigger lol. Using that logic alone this out of shape guy must be bigger too since he's holding his arms further apart.
Other than that Yates' waist is coming out (which made me incorrectly think this was a 97 shot), his chest is flatter, abs less defined, and smaller quads. I do give respect where it's due so I'll recognize he has a great back and calves in that shot too, but he's getting trampled everywhere else.
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Sharma's eloquent style with words, intelligence and humour are second to none and that's all the evidence I need that he is not a gimmick. If anyone else can match him in these traits then the question would arise that they may be each others' gimmicks.
There are many posters here who chose to post mainly or even only about one topic. Only finding one or a few topics interesting enough to post about now makes one a gimmick? lol.
Sharma's eloquent style with words, intelligence and humour are second to none and that's all the evidence I need that he is not a gimmick. If anyone else can match him in these traits then the question would arise that they may be each others' gimmicks.
spam and nothing more
There are many posters here who chose to post mainly or even only about one topic. Only finding one or a few topics interesting enough to post about now makes one a gimmick? lol.
sharma is a gimmck plain & simple he spams the board with Nasser spiel over and over , never posts on any topic other than this and attacks anyone who disagrees textbook gimmick
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Wrong Nasser is tenses that's who he does the pose I have the video and the pic Bobs confirms that's his style ( incorrectly ) lmfao he has better lighting? ( conspiracy anyone ) how the hell would you come to that conclusion? please elaborate on this gem . Dorian is easily winning this pose based on the IFBB judging criteria
Again, hilarious that you accuse others of repetition and spam posts when your only stock response to ANYBODY who don't agree with you is about "IFBB judging criteria" . Don't you ever get bored with just typing that when someone have an opinion that upset you?
Again, I think Nasser looks way better in that shot. His legs are on different planet, look the separation in them. His condition too (despite always people assume it is only Yates who have the great conditioning).. Nasser is way more complete and a far better example of proportion, condition , size AND aesthetics.
Now, you respond with your usual spam of that's not what the judges thought but most fans of this sport don't agree with them throughout the history of the sport. Also, aesthetics actually matter MORE these days and Nasser is way more aesthetic of the mass monster. He clean up under the current trends.
Nasser beating Yates there for me, sorry to make you cry ;D
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Dorian is holding his arm back further and only an idiot would really think that the way he holds his arm makes him bigger lol. Using that logic alone this out of shape guy must be bigger too since he's holding his arms further apart.
Other than that Yates' waist is coming out (which made me incorrectly think this was a 97 shot), his chest is flatter, abs less defined, and smaller quads. I do give respect where it's due so I'll recognize he has a great back and calves in that shot too, but he's getting trampled everywhere else.
Dorian is holding his arm back further and only an idiot would really think that the way he holds his arm makes him bigger lol. Using that logic alone this out of shape guy must be bigger too since he's holding his arms further apart.
You have a really bad habit of drawing your own conclusions , where did I ever claim by holding his arm out that makes him bigger? where? ??? and didn't I already say that there is a clear difference between size and dense & dry size? Dorian looks just as big as Nasser in that comparison despite not being as heavy , the only clear advantage size wise Nasser is showing is the quads , Dorian is more than keeping up with him everywhere else despite what you like to claim , Nasser despite being heavier is NOT out-muscling Dorian and this is where Nasser looks narrow from the side comes from
Other than that Yates' waist is coming out (which made me incorrectly think this was a 97 shot), his chest is flatter, abs less defined, and smaller quads. I do give respect where it's due so I'll recognize he has a great back and calves in that shot too, but he's getting trampled everywhere else.
see cherry picking NOT how it works , much to learn you do
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You have a really bad habit of drawing your own conclusions , where did I ever claim by holding his arm out that makes him bigger? where? ???
Previously you kept saying Nasser does not look bigger than Dorian, so I assumed you were referring to the illusion that Yates may be bigger simply because he's holding his arm further behind.
and didn't I already say that there is a clear difference between size and dense & dry size? Dorian looks just as big as Nasser in that comparison despite not being as heavy , the only clear advantage size wise Nasser is showing is the quads , Dorian is more than keeping up with him everywhere else despite what you like to claim , Nasser despite being heavier is NOT out-muscling Dorian and this is where Nasser looks narrow from the side comes from
see cherry picking NOT how it works , much to learn you do
Again making references to bodyweight LOL - Nasser is about 6% heavier than Dorian there only, and in a photo that's only inches large he wont be dwarfing Dorian with a 6% bodyweight difference - however one can still tell that he is bigger, just as you correctly concluded Nasser's quads are bigger...which of course is the biggest bodypart.
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Again making references to bodyweight LOL - Nasser is about 6% heavier than Dorian there only, and in a photo that's only inches large he wont be dwarfing Dorian with a 6% bodyweight difference - however one can still tell that he is bigger, just as you correctly concluded Nasser's quads are bigger...which of course is the biggest bodypart.
HAHA You're ripping this poor guy apart. I don't think he has your intellect and insight . It not a fair fight.
I almost feel sorry for ND here.
almost ;D
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Again, hilarious that you accuse others of repetition and spam posts when your only stock response to ANYBODY who don't agree with you is about "IFBB judging criteria" . Don't you ever get bored with just typing that when someone have an opinion that upset you?
Again, I think Nasser looks way better in that shot. His legs are on different planet, look the separation in them. His condition too (despite always people assume it is only Yates who have the great conditioning).. Nasser is way more complete and a far better example of proportion, condition , size AND aesthetics.
Now, you respond with your usual spam of that's not what the judges thought but most fans of this sport don't agree with them throughout the history of the sport. Also, aesthetics actually matter MORE these days and Nasser is way more aesthetic of the mass monster. He clean up under the current trends.
Nasser beating Yates there for me, sorry to make you cry ;D
Again, hilarious that you accuse others of repetition and spam posts when your only stock response to ANYBODY who don't agree with you is about "IFBB judging criteria" . Don't you ever get bored with just typing that when someone have an opinion that upset you?
there is a difference between repetition & spam , you spam that's not debatable. and I have to educate a LOT of people on how contests are judged because in my estimation 99% of you are clueless case in point Bobs insistence on cherry picking NOT how it works , it takes a long time to sink in but I enjoy helping people ;D
Again, I think Nasser looks way better in that shot. His legs are on different planet, look the separation in them. His condition too (despite always people assume it is only Yates who have the great conditioning).. Nasser is way more complete and a far better example of proportion, condition , size AND aesthetics.
Of course you think he looks better in that shot , ironically the judges thought otherwise and in the end the matter most ( spare me the politics cry ) Dorian straight firsts and Nasser third place , Nasser did have good conditioning that year he was always hard as nails from the front and sides his problem was you guessed it the soft back . more complete? nonsense there is NO muscle Nasser has that Dorian doesn't . proportion? NOPE short legs , long torso not great proportion in the forearms compared with the biceps/triceps either , condition? Dorian stands alone although Nasser was good this year ( see above ) aesthetics? compared to Yates? ??? subjective and irreverent he's no Flex Wheeler and what did his aesthetics do for him against Yates? or Labrada? or Paris? or anyone else?
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One thing Dorian can never beat HUGE Nasser on is the sheer amount of
soiled "sports memorabilia" that he sells.
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Yet IFBB appointed judges marked Dorian as low as FOURTH PLACE OVERALL in the 97 Olympia. Funny that there could be such a discrepancy between the high and low scoring judge's scorecards if this stuff is supposed to be so uniform.
Appealing to IFBB judges is pointless when they themself widely disagree to the point that the scorecards have be whittled down from the highs and lows. It show how subjective this sport is. Appealing only to the judges is pointless when there have been so many outrages and corrupt fixes over time.
That said, you did at least give a better answer this time, not the lazy judges argument when we know the Yates monstrosity was personal friend with many of them and for man years lived off 93 showing and gravitas!
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Previously you kept saying Nasser does not look bigger than Dorian, so I assumed you were referring to the illusion that Yates may be bigger simply because he's holding his arm further behind.
Again making references to bodyweight LOL - Nasser is about 6% heavier than Dorian there only, and in a photo that's only inches large he wont be dwarfing Dorian with a 6% bodyweight difference - however one can still tell that he is bigger, just as you correctly concluded Nasser's quads are bigger...which of course is the biggest bodypart.
Previously you kept saying Nasser does not look bigger than Dorian, so I assumed you were referring to the illusion that Yates may be bigger simply because he's holding his arm further behind.
don't make assumptions bobs you know what they say about assumptions ;D and I'm glad you admit he looks bigger even though you're claiming it's an illusion
Again making references to bodyweight LOL - Nasser is about 6% heavier than Dorian there only, and in a photo that's only inches large he wont be dwarfing Dorian with a 6% bodyweight difference - however one can still tell that he is bigger, just as you correctly concluded Nasser's quads are bigger...which of course is the biggest bodypart.
6%? you came to this conclusion how? Dorian 255 compared to Nasser's 270 ? he's not out muscling Dorian in the comparison despite being the larger bodybuilder which doesn't matter because he was much larger than Ray and lost to ;) what matters is EVERYTHING that's how it goes
Dorian is killing Nasser in that pose when all of the criteria is assessed
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HAHA You're ripping this poor guy apart. I don't think he has your intellect and insight . It not a fair fight.
I almost feel sorry for ND here.
almost ;D
Like Hulkster you can't touch the argument so just make empty statements to try and divert from the topic
The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.
according to this Dorian easily beats Nasser in this pose as well as many others
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6%? you came to this conclusion how? Dorian 255 compared to Nasser's 270 ? he's not out muscling Dorian in the comparison despite being the larger bodybuilder which doesn't matter because he was much larger than Ray and lost to ;) what matters is EVERYTHING that's how it goes
Oh man, we can argue about the subjective topic of who looks better all you want, but this simple mathematics. For starters I've read 257 as Dorian's bodyweight for 95 but let's go ahead with your 255 #.
270 - 255 = 15 lbs.
15 divided by 270 = 5.6%
Or taking Dorian's bodyweight as the denominator, 15 divided by 255 = 5.9%
I rounded up to 6% ;)
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Yet IFBB appointed judges marked Dorian as low as FOURTH PLACE OVERALL in the 97 Olympia. Funny that there could be such a discrepancy between the high and low scoring judge's scorecards if this stuff is supposed to be so uniform.
Appealing to IFBB judges is pointless when they themself widely disagree to the point that the scorecards have be whittled down from the highs and lows. It show how subjective this sport is. Appealing only to the judges is pointless when there have been so many outrages and corrupt fixes over time.
That said, you did at least give a better answer this time, not the lazy judges argument when we know the Yates monstrosity was personal friend with many of them and for man years lived off 93 showing and gravitas!
Yet IFBB appointed judges marked Dorian as low as FOURTH PLACE OVERALL in the 97 Olympia. Funny that there could be such a discrepancy between the high and low scoring judge's scorecards if this stuff is supposed to be so uniform
Prove it stop typing it as if it's true a common theme with you is make statements and never back them up . much like Nasser and again highs & lows are tossed out , so Dorian could be forth and still win with straight firsts
Appealing to IFBB judges is pointless when they themself widely disagree to the point that the scorecards have be whittled down from the highs and lows. It show how subjective this sport is. Appealing only to the judges is pointless when there have been so many outrages and corrupt fixes over time.
yes every single one of Nasser's six wins were fixed you can't have it bought ways
That said, you did at least give a better answer this time, not the lazy judges argument when we know the Yates monstrosity was personal friend with many of them and for man years lived off 93 showing and gravitas!
yes and as I pointed out to you before he was friends with Steve Wineberger and he judges Yates once in his career and placed him second to Momo so much for that theory but as usual you don't have much to say on that
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Oh man, we can argue about the subjective topic of who looks better all you want, but this simple mathematics. For starters I've read 257 as Dorian's bodyweight for 95 but let's go ahead with your 255 #.
270 - 255 = 15 lbs.
15 divided by 270 = 5.6%
Or taking Dorian's bodyweight as the denominator, 15 divided by 255 = 5.9%
I rounded up to 6% ;)
asshole, leave your hero alone in his own misery. nobody cares what he did or what he does nowadays, you can still argue for decades how many "sandows" he should have "won" ::) but it just doesnt change the fact that he is a nobody and has "0" olympias. get over it move on with your life tool
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asshole, leave your hero alone in his own misery. nobody cares what he did or what he does nowadays, you can still argue for decades how many "sandows" he should have "won" ::) but it just doesnt change the fact that he is a nobody and has "0" olympias. get over it move on with your life tool
hahah Nasser induced meltdown
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=299162.0;attach=340698;image)
It's so apparent that Dorian is smashing Nasser in that pic, that it's not even up for debate. Total backfire.
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Oh man, we can argue about the subjective topic of who looks better all you want, but this simple mathematics. For starters I've read 257 as Dorian's bodyweight for 95 but let's go ahead with your 255 #.
270 - 255 = 15 lbs.
15 divided by 270 = 5.6%
Or taking Dorian's bodyweight as the denominator, 15 divided by 255 = 5.9%
I rounded up to 6% ;)
Okay either way he's heavier but again that's a matter of semantics regardless of what it's by because ? he's not out-muscling Dorian and he's 15 pounds heavier so he should be and he's not regardless of what % the advantage is and look at the difference between Dorian between 92 and 93 with just an increase of 6% ;D ;) night & day , 93 Dorian would make 92 look small , yet with the same weight advantage Nasser can't ;D it's all a matter of semantics anyway because Shawn Ray was 205 pounds and beat Nasser's 285 pounds despite being out-muscled and out-sized I wonder why? ;D
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is disproven in this picture alone! I love how Yates fans claim Yates was better than Nasser "from the side" even though pictures speak otherwise.
Who is the fag in the gay boots?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=299162.0;attach=340698;image)
It's so apparent that Dorian is smashing Nasser in that pic, that it's not even up for debate. Total backfire.
Which is exactly why Dorian dominated that contest like 93 ;D hey do you see Nasser's pec's being ' twice as thick as Dorians ' ? maybe I'm missing it I might need a second opinion ;D
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hahah Nasser induced meltdown
HAHAHA Nasser building an EMPIRE of owned minds and souls from the assorted rabble and jealous failures !!!
ND - Nasser has confirmed that he has spoken to the judges who marked Yates as low as 4th. A lot of them were very angry and unhappy at the injustice. They actually seek him out to tell of their displeasure that an athlete as bad as Yates that night win with perfect scores yet no arms.
Nasser know a lot more about this than you. You have no place to demand his proof. This is a world famous , elite athlete. He don't answer to nothing people in the underbelly of life.
The fact is that IFBB appointed judges saw fit to award Yates 4th place overall in 97 . Yes, their scorecards were rejected under the rules BUT IFBB JUDGES AWARDED YATES AS LOW AS 4TH OVERALL.
Ergo, IFBB judges massively disagree on things. So stop only appealing to the judges. We have eyes too and not the vested interest many of them do!
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Which is exactly why Dorian dominated that contest like 93 ;D hey do you see Nasser's pec's being ' twice as thick as Dorians ' ? maybe I'm missing it I might need a second opinion ;D
Just a second, I'll get bigbobs to lend me his rose colored glasses.
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One thing Dorian can never beat HUGE Nasser on is the sheer amount of soiled "sports memorabilia" that he sells.
It's just a service to his adoring fans :-X which they denied up and down for eons ;D hey he doesn't need the money
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HAHAHA Nasser building an EMPIRE by selling one soiled thong at a time
Fixed
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Fixed
Stop fooling yourself. Plenty of successful people like Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and co. sell their soiled panties to fans. It's what the "elite" of this world do. Nasser is in great company.
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Stop fooling yourself. Plenty of successful people like Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and co. sell their soiled panties to fans. It's what the "elite" of this world do. Nasser is in great company.
Hahaha yes BF. The main thing to remember here is that he's not doing it for money, but as a selfless act for adoring fans and schmoes.
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Hahaha yes BF. The main thing to remember here is that he's not doing it for money, but as a selfless act for adoring fans and schmoes.
A great man indeed. I heard he even goes out of his way to eat a heaping bowl of chili before defecating in them. You know, to spice it up for his fans.
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Hahaha yes BF. The main thing to remember here is that he's not doing it for money, but as a selfless act for adoring fans and schmoes.
How much do you really think he gets from selling merchandise on his site? He told me once before and trust me its not even close to enough for him to live off of, with his current lifestyle consisting of a nice house in San Diego, frequent travels around the world, three vehicles, and going out lots. He affords this as he was wise with his earnings from bodybuilding and invested in real estate early in his career while competitors were blowing theirs on vehicles, rims and stereo systems. He made millions from buying and selling real estate alone, and now he lives off of their investment return.
Selling used merchandise to interested fans does not take effort out of his day so he choses to do it. On the other hand he refuses to personal train for even $200 per hour as that actually requires some effort and time commitment on his part which he feels is not worth his time. To each their own. Other top pros he competed against are willing to to go to bodybuilding shows to do interviews, write articles or carry drinks at a booth for money, none of which he does. Like I said, to each their own.
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How much do you really think he gets from selling merchandise on his site? He told me once before and trust me its not even close to enough for him to live off of, with his current lifestyle consisting of a nice house in San Diego, frequent travels around the world, three vehicles, and going out lots. He affords this as he was wise with his earnings from bodybuilding and invested in real estate early in his career while competitors were blowing theirs on vehicles, rims and stereo systems. He made millions from buying and selling real estate alone, and now he lives off of their investment return.
Selling used merchandise to interested fans does not take effort out of his day so he choses to do it. On the other hand he refuses to personal train for even $200 per hour as that actually requires some effort and time commitment on his part which he feels is not worth his time. To each their own. Other top pros he competed against are willing to to go to bodybuilding shows to do interviews, write articles or carry drinks at a booth for money, none of which he does. Like I said, to each their own.
To each their own, of course and I'm far from perfect myself, same as everyone else here. But you can't expect us to not use it as ammo in a heated discussion, regardless of whether he does it for a living (I can see he doesn't) or not ;D
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why do kiss his ass simply because he a muslim that sells used panties?
How much do you really think he gets from selling merchandise on his site? He told me once before and trust me its not even close to enough for him to live off of, with his current lifestyle consisting of a nice house in San Diego, frequent travels around the world, three vehicles, and going out lots. He affords this as he was wise with his earnings from bodybuilding and invested in real estate early in his career while competitors were blowing theirs on vehicles, rims and stereo systems. He made millions from buying and selling real estate alone, and now he lives off of their investment return.
Selling used merchandise to interested fans does not take effort out of his day so he choses to do it. On the other hand he refuses to personal train for even $200 per hour as that actually requires some effort and time commitment on his part which he feels is not worth his time. To each their own. Other top pros he competed against are willing to to go to bodybuilding shows to do interviews, write articles or carry drinks at a booth for money, none of which he does. Like I said, to each their own.
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To each their own, of course and I'm far from perfect myself, same as everyone else here. But you can't expect us to not use it as ammo in a heated discussion, regardless of whether he does it for a living (I can see he doesn't) or not ;D
It's all good, and Nasser sees the humour in it too, that's why he took pics like these to share a laugh with getbiggers :)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=202288.0;attach=235423;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=202288.0;attach=235425;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=202288.0;attach=235426;image)
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This Nasser bullshit is easily as annoying as Falcon and the two Truce goofballs.
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Which is exactly why Dorian dominated that contest like 93 ;D hey do you see Nasser's pec's being ' twice as thick as Dorians ' ? maybe I'm missing it I might need a second opinion ;D
The only thing "twice as thick" on Nasser is his skull.
Dorian has moved on to be a serious player in the supplement biz, Making a tremendous amount of money and banging fitness hoes.....
While Nasser is still in training, trying to bring up his lats, for a contest that happened twelve years ago ::) ::) :P :P ;D ;D
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The only thing "twice as thick" on Nasser is his skull.
Dorian has moved on to be a seriously player in the supplement biz, Making a tremendous amount of money and banging fitness hoes.....
While Nasser is still in training, trying to bring up his lats, for a contest that happened twelve years ago ::) ::) :P :P ;D ;D
hahahahahahaha he's getting around to that back now
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Nasser on Dorian in 97:
Q ] Having controversially lost the 1997 Mr. Olympia title, when many people thought you should have won, how did you take this result and why do you think the judges placed you second?
Yes definitely. That is a fact (I should have won the 1997 Mr. Olympia). When I did not receive the Sandow in 1997 I realized that there is no fair competition (in pro bodybuilding). I realized it earlier but, again, in 1997 it was more obvious than ever before.
In 1994 I came in second at the Night of Champions in New York City. I think that I should have won that specific show, but they let Mike Francois, as the reigning USA champion, take the title.
I was just the unknown, or better, the "unimportant" guy from Europe. The title stayed in the U.S. and Nasser went back to Europe. Besides, another European called Dorian Yates was already holding the Mr. Olympia title.
And to come back to 1997 (Mr. Olympia), Flex Wheeler came to me after the prejudging (which was on a Friday, so that they had the finals on Saturday - in order for them to generate more entrance ticket money in Long Beach, California) and told me backstage if I knew that they would not give me my very deserved title. I did not say too much because I hoped that he was wrong. But as we all know, Dorian Yates won the Olympia again, the very next day.
He won despite a huge belly (looking like he was pregnant in the sixth month), a waist like a drum, a torn up left biceps, a freshly torn left triceps, a quad tear left, a quad tear right, a torn right hip.
He won it with a perfect score, which was just unbelievable. This was a completely staged outcome and the biggest bodybuilding robbery of the 20th century by the clique of judges who "judged".
I also have to say that some judges had Dorian Yates even in third and fourth place, because about 13 judges judged officially. I think you just use seven of the score sheets. But these judges' (who scored Dorian lower) score sheets had not been used and some of the judges' had then been removed from the judging panel because they did not produce what was expected of them to produce.
There are multiple reasons why I did not win. Some judges did not want to upset their friend Dorian and they did not want him to go out of bodybuilding with a defeat after all his injuries and tears. They did not want to give another non-U.S. guy the most prestigious title in bodybuilding because it would underline the U.S. inferiority in bodybuilding compared to non-U.S. athletes.
Then definitely another reason is that I am so outspoken and not just an order follower. That I say how it is, and do not brown nose and make phone calls in order to "secure" a placement like so may others who play the official tough guy.
I have no problem calling people up, but not for the sole purpose of placing here and there in a certain spot. And I am, for too many people, far too educated and too intelligent. And they realized I could be a danger to them if I was the new titleholder.
And last but not least, when people saw my body they figured they couldn't achieve that. Before doing this they would rather be dead. So I was also physically too freaky and too big, even for pro bodybuilding. And I was also critical about judges and co-competitors and did not deny it when I was questioned about that.
[ Q ] You say your physique was too freaky and too massive; sounds like you were ahead of your time. How would you personally describe your physique and just what made you the best bodybuilder onstage at the 1997 Mr. Olympia?
The best proof of my superior physique over everyone else's physique can be seen on the 1997 Olympia tape. This says it all. But I would still like to make some statements.
I had, compared to 1997 Mr. Olympia title winner, Dorian Yates, the better built and the better, god given genetic structure with even nicer looking veins. I did not have one torn muscle like he had so many, many torn muscles. My body is more proportioned and more, way more symmetrical.
I had the better waist (also the best V-taper, shoulders/waistline), better and tighter abs, paper thin skin, better triceps, better biceps, better shoulders, better chest, better hams, and better quads. I was tighter, harder and fresher in appearance (because I did not have a couple of week-old triceps tears which had not even been attempted to have been fixed surgically, otherwise Yates wouldn't have been able to step on stage).
Then I heard the big BS - "... but Dorian had him (Nasser) from the back." The only body part I give Yates when he supposedly had me was his tremendous lower back development but not his thickness or back width.
The Olympia is not a lower back contest. An Olympia title is not to be given out to the best lower back - otherwise why do all of us still train all of the other body parts?
My general opinion of that show, the 1997 two-day Olympia, is that I got robbed live in front of thousands of people but with no consequences for anyone but me and a few judges who did not judge according to that which was expected of them, that what was suggested to them.
What possible notion, reasons, etc could the judges have in terms of "politics"..gain, publicity, advantage money or otherwise etc etc by "giving Dorian" the 1997 O? Nasser had a tremendous physique however as has been said thousands of times before its not a bodypart competion or a look my abs, my arms etc was "better" than yours competion because if it was Dorian would of Lost every MR O he Entered, Nasser looked very very good at the 97 show however saying they would "give Dorian" the O or the timeless classic that never seems to date "i was Robbed" sounds Ridiculous from someone who at one time was one of the best Physiques around just never the best.
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a "thick" side shot of the wizard :o
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is disproven in this picture alone! I love how Yates fans claim Yates was better than Nasser "from the side" even though pictures speak otherwise.
Take off those boots and he shrinks from the side. The boots added a lot more thickness .
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Dorian is much better from the side. Although Nasser looks thick in some side shots ;D
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You must be kidding... EVERYONE knows Nasser made Dorian look like SHIT that year... enough with that crap.
Another Arab terrorrist
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What possible notion, reasons, etc could the judges have in terms of "politics"..gain, publicity, advantage money or otherwise etc etc by "giving Dorian" the 1997 O? Nasser had a tremendous physique however as has been said thousands of times before its not a bodypart competion or a look my abs, my arms etc was "better" than yours competion because if it was Dorian would of Lost every MR O he Entered, Nasser looked very very good at the 97 show however saying they would "give Dorian" the O or the timeless classic that never seems to date "i was Robbed" sounds Ridiculous from someone who at one time was one of the best Physiques around just never the best.
Johnny, I really like you and respect you very much.. you always say your opinion in a decent way without insulting others who don’t agree with you.. I wish the lot of idiots here learn from you how to exchange opinions in a respectful way!!..
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Johnny, I really like you and respect you very much.. you always say your opinion in a decent way without insulting others who don’t agree with you.. I wish the lot of idiots here learn from you how to exchange opinions in a respectful way!!..
Falcon has training on this
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Dorian is much better from the side. Although Nasser looks thick in some side shots ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=299162.0;attach=340766;image)
How do you gather Dorian being better in this picture you posted? ???
He is closer to the camera yet still is showing such little detail, striations or separation compared to Nasser.
If the judges had placed Nasser ahead, I bet many would be arguing how Nasser looks better. You guys should really step back and ask yourself whether you're being honest with yourselves or not. You owe it to yourself to have a mind and opinion of your own and not simply follow what the judges said.
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You guys should really step back and ask yourself whether you're being honest with yourselves or not. You owe it to yourself to have a mind and opinion of your own and not simply follow what the judges said.
Irony alert
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Irony alert
bobs is blinded by manlove for his soiled mantie selling hero
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bobs is blinded by manlove for his soiled mantie selling hero
yeah and he projects that onto others . he's arguing a point that Nasser looks better in a contest that A) Dorian completely dominated and B) Nasser placed third