Nasser on Dorian in 97:
Q ] Having controversially lost the 1997 Mr. Olympia title, when many people thought you should have won, how did you take this result and why do you think the judges placed you second?
Yes definitely. That is a fact (I should have won the 1997 Mr. Olympia). When I did not receive the Sandow in 1997 I realized that there is no fair competition (in pro bodybuilding). I realized it earlier but, again, in 1997 it was more obvious than ever before.
In 1994 I came in second at the Night of Champions in New York City. I think that I should have won that specific show, but they let Mike Francois, as the reigning USA champion, take the title.
I was just the unknown, or better, the "unimportant" guy from Europe. The title stayed in the U.S. and Nasser went back to Europe. Besides, another European called Dorian Yates was already holding the Mr. Olympia title.
And to come back to 1997 (Mr. Olympia), Flex Wheeler came to me after the prejudging (which was on a Friday, so that they had the finals on Saturday - in order for them to generate more entrance ticket money in Long Beach, California) and told me backstage if I knew that they would not give me my very deserved title. I did not say too much because I hoped that he was wrong. But as we all know, Dorian Yates won the Olympia again, the very next day.
He won despite a huge belly (looking like he was pregnant in the sixth month), a waist like a drum, a torn up left biceps, a freshly torn left triceps, a quad tear left, a quad tear right, a torn right hip.
He won it with a perfect score, which was just unbelievable. This was a completely staged outcome and the biggest bodybuilding robbery of the 20th century by the clique of judges who "judged".
I also have to say that some judges had Dorian Yates even in third and fourth place, because about 13 judges judged officially. I think you just use seven of the score sheets. But these judges' (who scored Dorian lower) score sheets had not been used and some of the judges' had then been removed from the judging panel because they did not produce what was expected of them to produce.
There are multiple reasons why I did not win. Some judges did not want to upset their friend Dorian and they did not want him to go out of bodybuilding with a defeat after all his injuries and tears. They did not want to give another non-U.S. guy the most prestigious title in bodybuilding because it would underline the U.S. inferiority in bodybuilding compared to non-U.S. athletes.
Then definitely another reason is that I am so outspoken and not just an order follower. That I say how it is, and do not brown nose and make phone calls in order to "secure" a placement like so may others who play the official tough guy.
I have no problem calling people up, but not for the sole purpose of placing here and there in a certain spot. And I am, for too many people, far too educated and too intelligent. And they realized I could be a danger to them if I was the new titleholder.
And last but not least, when people saw my body they figured they couldn't achieve that. Before doing this they would rather be dead. So I was also physically too freaky and too big, even for pro bodybuilding. And I was also critical about judges and co-competitors and did not deny it when I was questioned about that.
[ Q ] You say your physique was too freaky and too massive; sounds like you were ahead of your time. How would you personally describe your physique and just what made you the best bodybuilder onstage at the 1997 Mr. Olympia?
The best proof of my superior physique over everyone else's physique can be seen on the 1997 Olympia tape. This says it all. But I would still like to make some statements.
I had, compared to 1997 Mr. Olympia title winner, Dorian Yates, the better built and the better, god given genetic structure with even nicer looking veins. I did not have one torn muscle like he had so many, many torn muscles. My body is more proportioned and more, way more symmetrical.
I had the better waist (also the best V-taper, shoulders/waistline), better and tighter abs, paper thin skin, better triceps, better biceps, better shoulders, better chest, better hams, and better quads. I was tighter, harder and fresher in appearance (because I did not have a couple of week-old triceps tears which had not even been attempted to have been fixed surgically, otherwise Yates wouldn't have been able to step on stage).
Then I heard the big BS - "... but Dorian had him (Nasser) from the back." The only body part I give Yates when he supposedly had me was his tremendous lower back development but not his thickness or back width.
The Olympia is not a lower back contest. An Olympia title is not to be given out to the best lower back - otherwise why do all of us still train all of the other body parts?
My general opinion of that show, the 1997 two-day Olympia, is that I got robbed live in front of thousands of people but with no consequences for anyone but me and a few judges who did not judge according to that which was expected of them, that what was suggested to them.
what's he gonna say? the truth? hahahahahahahaha the judges spoke
Yes definitely. That is a fact (I should have won the 1997 Mr. Olympia). When I did not receive the Sandow in 1997 I realized that there is no fair competition (in pro bodybuilding). I realized it earlier but, again, in 1997 it was more obvious than ever before.
No fair competition ? all of his six wins were NOT fair then either he won using the same unfairness he's bitching about
In 1994 I came in second at the Night of Champions in New York City. I think that I should have won that specific show, but they let Mike Francois, as the reigning USA champion, take the title.
Well he doesn't judge shows of course he thinks he should have won and the old plea to letting a USA bodybuilder win , all the while the winner of the biggest competition in bodybuilding was from the UK , poor me I wasn't an American so I was robbed
I was just the unknown, or better, the "unimportant" guy from Europe. The title stayed in the U.S. and Nasser went back to Europe. Besides, another European called Dorian Yates was already holding the Mr. Olympia title.
Dorian was unknown when he entered the NOC and LOST to Momo another non-American BTW and so he figured out the plot . we can't have two European champions lol conspiracy anyone?
And to come back to 1997 (Mr. Olympia), Flex Wheeler came to me after the prejudging (which was on a Friday, so that they had the finals on Saturday - in order for them to generate more entrance ticket money in Long Beach, California) and told me backstage if I knew that they would not give me my very deserved title. I did not say too much because I hoped that he was wrong. But as we all know, Dorian Yates won the Olympia again, the very next day.
Wow validation from Flex Wheeler case closed
the same guy who said he was attacked by Ninjas , not a source with much credibility and I always love how Nasser eludes that he was let in on the scam before the fact backstage , he's always playing the victim like Mike Mattarazzo and the diuretics test in 96
He won despite a huge belly (looking like he was pregnant in the sixth month), a waist like a drum, a torn up left biceps, a freshly torn left triceps, a quad tear left, a quad tear right, a torn right hip.
he did have a huge belly when fully relaxed a thing he did a lot at this show not whilst he was flexing , the only tear was the triceps all other tears were old which he has NO problem with in 1995 when he admitted he was trounced
He won it with a perfect score, which was just unbelievable. This was a completely staged outcome and the biggest bodybuilding robbery of the 20th century by the clique of judges who "judged".
no unbelievable when you know how contests are judged , he could lose poses and seeing the high & low scores are tossed can still with with a perfect score , I was robbed , I'm a victim , blah , blah , blah , ALL of his wins the judging was fair
I also have to say that some judges had Dorian Yates even in third and fourth place, because about 13 judges judged officially. I think you just use seven of the score sheets. But these judges' (who scored Dorian lower) score sheets had not been used and some of the judges' had then been removed from the judging panel because they did not produce what was expected of them to produce.
stupid hello? highs & low scores are tossed out , and more hearsay by Nasser not producing one shred of evidence as usual
There are multiple reasons why I did not win. Some judges did not want to upset their friend Dorian and they did not want him to go out of bodybuilding with a defeat after all his injuries and tears. They did not want to give another non-U.S. guy the most prestigious title in bodybuilding because it would underline the U.S. inferiority in bodybuilding compared to non-U.S. athletes.
The judges didn't know Dorian was retiring NO ONE knew until 1998 so much for that theory . the are multiple reasons you didn't win yeah because you weren't good enough but have to pushing the issue of latent racism and xenophobia which is again a trend with him , it can't be him it has to be everyone else , the system is against him
Then definitely another reason is that I am so outspoken and not just an order follower. That I say how it is, and do not brown nose and make phone calls in order to "secure" a placement like so may others who play the official tough guy.
And if you were you would win some how? the old outside man more of his victimization plea
I have no problem calling people up, but not for the sole purpose of placing here and there in a certain spot. And I am, for too many people, far too educated and too intelligent. And they realized I could be a danger to them if I was the new titleholder.
yes the threat known as Nasser El Sonbaty , the outsider who was going to stir up the whole machine lol it's funny how he creates this whole persona instead of just admitting he simply wasn't good enough
And last but not least, when people saw my body they figured they couldn't achieve that. Before doing this they would rather be dead. So I was also physically too freaky and too big, even for pro bodybuilding. And I was also critical about judges and co-competitors and did not deny it when I was questioned about that.
Yes you were just to much for the establishment to handle , they couldn't market you to anyone because you were 270 pounds in 1997 and yet the winner was the same weight lmfao Nasser was bigger than the sport
[ Q ] You say your physique was too freaky and too massive; sounds like you were ahead of your time. How would you personally describe your physique and just what made you the best bodybuilder onstage at the 1997 Mr. Olympia?
The best proof of my superior physique over everyone else's physique can be seen on the 1997 Olympia tape. This says it all. But I would still like to make some statements.
yeah he was really ahead of his time
Dorian was 300 pounds in 1993 offseason , 269 pounds in near contest shape in 1993 , 282 pounds in 1995 in near contest shape , while Nasser was placing 15th
yeah really ahead of the curve
I had, compared to 1997 Mr. Olympia title winner, Dorian Yates, the better built and the better, god given genetic structure with even nicer looking veins. I did not have one torn muscle like he had so many, many torn muscles. My body is more proportioned and more, way more symmetrical.
lmfao nicer looking veins ? knitpicking ? he didn't have any torn muscles true he also had NO back either he may have been more proportional and ' symmetrical ' he was also softer & not as dry but typical Nasser picks his strengths ignores his weaknesses and states his case NOT how it works which he found out but never learned
I had the better waist (also the best V-taper, shoulders/waistline), better and tighter abs, paper thin skin, better triceps, better biceps, better shoulders, better chest, better hams, and better quads. I was tighter, harder and fresher in appearance (because I did not have a couple of week-old triceps tears which had not even been attempted to have been fixed surgically, otherwise Yates wouldn't have been able to step on stage).
And contests are judges on who has better parts it's who has better poses based on ALL of the criteria not some of it
Then I heard the big BS - "... but Dorian had him (Nasser) from the back." The only body part I give Yates when he supposedly had me was his tremendous lower back development but not his thickness or back width.
The Olympia is not a lower back contest. An Olympia title is not to be given out to the best lower back - otherwise why do all of us still train all of the other body parts?
My general opinion of that show, the 1997 two-day Olympia, is that I got robbed live in front of thousands of people but with no consequences for anyone but me and a few judges who did not judge according to that which was expected of them, that what was suggested to them.
Dorian beats him in width AND thickness NO contest and lower back and every single part of the back , the Olympia isn't a lower back contest duh it's not a " I have better parts ' contest either , Dorian beat him in the back double biceps POSE the rear latspread POSE the standing relaxed from the back POSE he beat him in the side triceps & side chest POSE the front latspread POSE the 1/4 turn POSES which is why he won
12 years latter still crying , he's a bitter man who is lacking in his life , Lee Labrada was similar in he came close to winner the Olympia and didn't , you don't see him crying and bitching about how he was a victim , he's a real class act who has a life now and isn't crying about the glory days
