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Title: Kovacs
Post by: RJ DRIVER on October 09, 2009, 08:18:29 PM
How the hell did he become this??? He used to be so massive, in comparison to his old pics.  Seriously how does this happen, is it from drug abuse?
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: TrueGrit on October 09, 2009, 08:29:53 PM
 I prefer those pics where he looks like a burnt corpse
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: BayGBM on October 09, 2009, 08:31:41 PM
devolution.   :-\
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 09, 2009, 08:50:53 PM
He couldn't stop binge eating..the guy literally looked pregnant in person, I ran into him about 5-6 times at a supermarket over the period of 3 years and knew him from partying/clubs, he could never get rid of that pregnant look even when he was under 7% bf.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: RJ DRIVER on October 09, 2009, 08:57:22 PM
He couldn't stop binge eating..the guy literally looked pregnant in person, I ran into him about 5-6 times at a supermarket over the period of 3 years and knew him from partying/clubs, he could never get rid of that pregnant look even when he was under 7% bf.

But why did his arms and legs and cheat shrink?  His triceps are non exisitent.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 09, 2009, 08:59:49 PM
But why did his arms and legs and cheat shrink?  His triceps are non exisitent.

Palumboism 101; the torso gradually become bigger and organs grow and expand, the limbs seem to stop growing and shrink/shrivel up...we've seen it on a ton of guys... palumbo, kovacs, kamali , etc.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: RJ DRIVER on October 09, 2009, 09:02:26 PM
Palumboism is real but its beyond my comprehension, I just dont get it.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 09, 2009, 09:06:19 PM
Palumboism is real but its beyond my comprehension, I just dont get it.

I don't get why it shrinks your limbs (looks almost like paralysis) and expands your torso (causes major organ growth) so the guts and everything around them (heart, kidneys, liver, etc) just all push outwards.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: lesaucer on October 09, 2009, 09:09:32 PM
Palumboism 101; the torso gradually become bigger and organs grow and expand, the limbs seem to stop growing and shrink/shrivel up...we've seen it on a ton of guys... palumbo, kovacs, kamali , etc.


i think what they should do when that happen,, stop all drugs, get on clen and t3 and 1500 calorie diet until they are nothing, take a year break no training no 7k diet no drugs... then start all over, TOTAL REBUILD  :o
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: RJ DRIVER on October 09, 2009, 09:12:52 PM
i think what they should do when that happen,, stop all drugs, get on clen and t3 and 1500 calorie diet until they are nothing, take a year break no training no 7k diet no drugs... then start all over, TOTAL REBUILD  :o
The damage is already done.  To my knowledge once your ogans grow like that they wont shrink, someone please correct me if Im wrong.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 09, 2009, 09:18:00 PM
The damage is already done.  To my knowledge once your ogans grow like that they wont shrink, someone please correct me if Im wrong.

You live by the sword....you die by the sword... of course there is no going back...such is life.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: RJ DRIVER on October 09, 2009, 09:23:01 PM
He may die young, but he will die knowing he looked better then 99.99999% of everyone else at one point.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: lesaucer on October 09, 2009, 09:28:24 PM
The damage is already done.  To my knowledge once your ogans grow like that they wont shrink, someone please correct me if Im wrong.

look at the pics his gut is going out from the side and everywhere,, drugs may make organs grow but i think not that much.. i think palumboism is due to.. you know when you eat like a pig and you feel fucking bloated with your stomach going out? these guys have that feeling months and months non stop when growing and eating like 8k calories per day, so their body get used to that and adapt to it ie: big gut for alot of food.. i think THATS what causing the big gut we see today.. not gh.. because if organs inside would get so big that it expend the waist, they would have way worse health problems than having a big waist,, my 2cents
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: dyslexic on October 09, 2009, 10:19:38 PM
They do have worse problems than just a big waist...
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Aaron Singerman on October 09, 2009, 10:31:32 PM
If anyone knows how to get in-touch with Greg, please PM me. I'm hoping to have him on OFF TOPIC Radio as a guest...
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Victor VonDoom on October 09, 2009, 10:35:55 PM
look at the pics his gut is going out from the side and everywhere,, drugs may make organs grow but i think not that much.. i think palumboism is due to.. you know when you eat like a pig and you feel fucking bloated with your stomach going out? these guys have that feeling months and months non stop when growing and eating like 8k calories per day, so their body get used to that and adapt to it ie: big gut for alot of food.. i think THATS what causing the big gut we see today.. not gh.. because if organs inside would get so big that it expend the waist, they would have way worse health problems than having a big waist,, my 2cents

Bah ha ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: rocket on October 09, 2009, 11:40:40 PM
look at the pics his gut is going out from the side and everywhere,, drugs may make organs grow but i think not that much.. i think palumboism is due to.. you know when you eat like a pig and you feel fucking bloated with your stomach going out? these guys have that feeling months and months non stop when growing and eating like 8k calories per day, so their body get used to that and adapt to it ie: big gut for alot of food.. i think THATS what causing the big gut we see today.. not gh.. because if organs inside would get so big that it expend the waist, they would have way worse health problems than having a big waist,, my 2cents

Nah, palumbo has always stayed pretty lean, he is the archetype of the syndrome.  It isn't from overeating
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Tre on October 09, 2009, 11:43:28 PM

Diabetics are the only people who should use insulin.

Just sayin'...
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Matt C on October 10, 2009, 12:32:26 AM
How the hell did he become this??? He used to be so massive, in comparison to his old pics he looks like an aids patient.  Seriously how does this happen, is it from drug abuse?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=301415.0;attach=343001;image)

He was something like 385 in these pictures.  Say what you will about him compared to his previous showings, but he was absolutely huge in the above photograph.  In the photos below, put next to Gunter and it is almost as if he is making 265 pound Gunter look as if he doesn't even work out.  :o

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=57872&id=37468&Itemid=202)

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=57400&id=37462&Itemid=202)

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=57400&id=37448&Itemid=202)

PS - who would win in a fight, Greg Kovacs or Georges St. Pierre?  ???
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Signifying Monkey on October 10, 2009, 12:36:30 AM
Yeah, those red xes are dwarfing the shit out of gunther
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Matt C on October 10, 2009, 12:39:06 AM
Yeah, those red xes are dwarfing the shit out of gunther

Fixed, unless muscletime is not allowing hotlinking.  ;D
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: 240 is Back on October 10, 2009, 12:47:55 AM
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Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Signifying Monkey on October 10, 2009, 12:59:05 AM
He may die young, but he will die knowing he looked better then 99.99999% of everyone else at one point.

if "looking better" = looking like an apeman
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: kawaks on October 10, 2009, 01:02:11 AM
if "looking better" = looking like an apeman

Checkout his 'seriously oiled out' delts at weird angles ALA Nasser Incorporated.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: TRIX on October 10, 2009, 02:06:08 AM
It's not the food. Many fat kunts have been way bigger then pro bodybuilders and lost weight and ended up thin with no gut.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Signifying Monkey on October 10, 2009, 02:20:28 AM
It's not the food. Many fat kunts have been way bigger then pro bodybuilders and lost weight and ended up thin with no gut.

your avatar is teh awesome
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: pellius on October 10, 2009, 03:13:26 AM
Where's that pic from his last show where he's just standing relaxed? There you see what a mess he has become.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: dyslexic on October 10, 2009, 07:45:39 AM
It's so special that Palumbo will always be remembered with such a great impact on bodybuilding.



Can't wait for "Romanoism"
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: io856 on October 10, 2009, 08:00:56 AM
It's so special that Palumbo will always be remembered with such a great impact on bodybuilding.



Can't wait for "Romanoism"
Not many if any stepped on stage @ 335lbs RIPPED

I don't appreciate Kovacs disrespect... he redefined mass... to speak any less of him is absolute crass
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: io856 on October 10, 2009, 08:04:58 AM
He was something like 385 in these pictures.  Say what you will about him compared to his previous showings, but he was absolutely huge in the above photograph.  In the photos below, put next to Gunter and it is almost as if he is making 265 pound Gunter look as if he doesn't even work out.  :o

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=57872&id=37468&Itemid=202)

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=57400&id=37462&Itemid=202)

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=57400&id=37448&Itemid=202)

PS - who would win in a fight, Greg Kovacs or Georges St. Pierre?  ???
wow Gunter was a stunner! with muscles...

What was the reaction from women?
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: dragonfist on October 10, 2009, 08:07:41 AM
Not many if any stepped on stage @ 335lbs RIPPED

I don't appreciate Kovacs disrespect... he redefined mass... to speak any less of him is absolute crass

All that mass translated to:

1997 IFBB Night of Champions 16th
1998 IFBB Ironman Pro Invitational 16th
2001 IFBB Night of Champions Did Not Place
2004 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic 13th
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: BayGBM on October 10, 2009, 08:13:35 AM
if "looking better" = looking like an apeman

Exactly!  Something is very wrong here.  :-[
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: io856 on October 10, 2009, 08:55:32 AM
Exactly!  Something is very wrong here.  :-[
looks perfectly fine to me... maybe just straining as he is posing whilst holding breath

we all age...
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: BayGBM on October 10, 2009, 09:08:02 AM
looks perfectly fine to me... maybe just straining as he is posing whilst holding breath

we all age...

Um, no.  We have all seen bodybuilders age and/or strain while flexing.  This is something different.  The shape of his face/skull has changed dramatically and not for the better.  :-[

Compare...
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Pecs on October 10, 2009, 10:01:09 AM
kovacs destoryed his own body, inside out
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: BayGBM on October 10, 2009, 10:11:48 AM
Do schmoes even want him anymore?  When the schmoes don't want you, it's all over.  :'(
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Matt C on October 10, 2009, 10:43:36 AM
wow Gunter was a stunner! with muscles...

What was the reaction from women?

I was wondering that myself.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: ChristopherA on October 10, 2009, 10:47:28 AM
Do schmoes even want him anymore?  When the schmoes don't want you, it's all over.  :'(
Honestly, looking at these photos my first response is WTF! But as I am going through the thread and come to this picture where he basically looks like an old fat guy and you wouldnt ever know he lifted, I feel sorry for the guy. Yeah I know he did it to himself but he just looks like one sad dude. He probably isnt feelin to hot on a day to day basis either. Livin the dream baby!
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 10, 2009, 10:49:13 AM
WTF happened to him?
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: BayGBM on October 10, 2009, 11:05:56 AM
Honestly, looking at these photos my first response is WTF! But as I am going through the thread and come to this picture where he basically looks like an old fat guy and you wouldnt ever know he lifted, I feel sorry for the guy. Yeah I know he did it to himself but he just looks like one sad dude. He probably isnt feelin to hot on a day to day basis either. Livin the dream baby!

This was the beginning of the end.  :-[
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 10, 2009, 11:12:02 AM
He went to the bottom in a hurry
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: body88 on October 10, 2009, 11:20:40 AM
He may die young, but he will die knowing he looked better then 99.99999% of everyone else at one point.

Which means nothing.  Btw, define "better", because to 99% of hot women, he would have been far to muscular and ugly in the face.  Newsflash, women don't like freaks like Kovacs and Coleman.  They like athletically muscular men.  If women like big, freaky, bodybuilders, you'd see them being pursued by women or winning awards like "the sexiest man alive".  Stop being delusional.

Look at this "twink".  You put a picture of this guy next to any bodybuilder that ever lived, and you ask 100 hot women to choose; 99 of them would choose the the "twink".  Thats the truth, and guys like Kovacs screwing up their health for nothing is sad.
(http://www.hilaryshepherd.com/rantsnraves/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/matthew-mcconaughey-looking-good.jpg)
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: BayGBM on October 10, 2009, 11:28:25 AM
Which means nothing.  Btw, define "better", because to 99% of hot women, he would have been far to muscular and ugly in the face.  Newsflash, women don't like freaks like Kovacs and Coleman.  They like athletically muscular men.  If women like big, freaky, bodybuilders, you'd see them being pursued by women or winning awards like "the sexiest man alive".  Stop being delusional.

Look at this "twink".  You put a picture of this guy next to any bodybuilder that ever lived, and you ask 100 hot women to choose; 99 of them would choose the the "twink".  Thats the truth, and guys like Kovacs screwing up their health for nothing is sad.
(http://www.hilaryshepherd.com/rantsnraves/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/matthew-mcconaughey-looking-good.jpg)


QFT.  Kovacs only resonates with schmoes.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: wolfgang187 on October 10, 2009, 11:41:32 AM
The Muscletech Stack backfired on him BIG TIME!
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: pellius on October 10, 2009, 12:30:04 PM
This was the beginning of the end.  :-[

Thanks for the next week of nightmares.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=301415.0;attach=343060;image)
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 10, 2009, 12:39:32 PM
This was the beginning of the end.  :-[
Clearly a burn victim
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: BayGBM on October 10, 2009, 07:30:34 PM
If he could somehow do it (I know he can't) it would be the biggest comeback in BB history.   :D
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: bailey on October 10, 2009, 08:07:00 PM
Stop the presses !!!!! A non-gay post from Bay !! :o
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Mobil on October 10, 2009, 08:24:01 PM
whats sad about kovacks.. is muscle mag(96-99) pimped the hell out of him due to muscle tech.. i always thought as  a 16yr old "wow this guy is huge" now he looks like complete garbage that has been shitten on.. poor guy deserves better then suicide.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Relentless on October 10, 2009, 08:26:58 PM
Greg Kovaks should cancel his gym membership and never look back.  He should also probably go vegan and stay far away from excessive amounts of protein...that is, if he wants to live to see 50.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: pellius on October 10, 2009, 08:38:42 PM
Greg Kovaks should cancel his gym membership and never look back.  He should also probably go vegan and stay far away from excessive amounts of protein...that is, if he wants to live to see 50.

He's not over 50 yet? How old is that guy?
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: BayGBM on October 10, 2009, 09:22:27 PM
I'll always remember him in daisy dukes!  :D
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: haider on October 10, 2009, 09:23:36 PM
Baygbm dude are you gay for real?
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: rocket on October 10, 2009, 09:25:48 PM
Baygbm dude are you gay for real?

You've been here 5 years and you're still unsure?
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on October 11, 2009, 12:11:48 AM
You've been here 5 years and you're still unsure?

Maybe it's just a phase
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Signifying Monkey on October 11, 2009, 12:12:52 AM
Timfogarty didn't turn gay until he was 18 or so  :-\
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Matt C on October 11, 2009, 12:31:44 AM
Timfogarty didn't turn gay until he was 18 or so  :-\

A friend of mine wasn't aware that he was gay until he was about 20.  I suppose he knew but didn't acknowledge it due to social norms.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Signifying Monkey on October 11, 2009, 12:32:44 AM
fogarty didn't even start thinking about dudes until he was 7. the gay mafia should check his bona fides

baygbm seems like he was gay from the get-go
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: pellius on October 11, 2009, 03:59:49 AM
I'll always remember him in daisy dukes!  :D

I also know for a fact that he's wearing combat boots in the pic. I don't know if that adds anything to the fantasy. Just saying.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Meso_z on October 11, 2009, 04:30:58 AM
he said he will make a comeback next year. so lets wait and see.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: io856 on October 11, 2009, 04:49:02 AM
I'll always remember him in daisy dukes!  :D
I'll remember him for his amazing tenacity and dedication to MASS!
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: dragonfist on October 11, 2009, 05:03:39 AM
It's sad what he did to himself.  Never would have been Mr. Olympia but he looked decent at one time.

(http://ttp://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/113/images/Greg_Kovacs_85.jpg)

(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Greg_Kovacs/Greg_Kovacs_006.jpg)

(http://images.hugi.is/heilsa/147947.jpg)

(http://pic.leech.it/i/e936d/93dc7a2000e9805me.jpg)
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: BayGBM on October 11, 2009, 06:32:09 AM
I also know for a fact that he's wearing combat boots in the pic. I don't know if that adds anything to the fantasy. Just saying.

Daisy dukes, cleavage style button down shirt, and combat boots. I have a feeling he had help getting dressed for this photo shoot. :D
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 11, 2009, 06:45:03 AM
he said he will make a comeback next year. so lets wait and see.
Its hard to make a comeback when you are barely alive or dead ;D
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: dragonfist on October 11, 2009, 08:00:51 AM
he said he will make a comeback next year. so lets wait and see.

He can add a DNP at the Mr. Getbig to his contest history.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 11, 2009, 08:27:28 AM
He can add a DNP iat the Mr. Getbig to his contest history.
:D
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: BayGBM on October 11, 2009, 10:31:23 AM
Greg speaks

Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: ChristopherA on October 11, 2009, 10:44:06 AM
Greg speaks


Any confirmations that he was that strong. I remember the MuscleMag articles blowing up his spot saying 585 incines , 800lbs squats , 500lbs behind neck press. And those were all for weight for reps.Chris Cormier called bullshit on alot of it.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Matt C on October 11, 2009, 10:57:02 AM
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/greg1.jpg)
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: spinnis on October 11, 2009, 10:58:26 AM
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/greg1.jpg)

the only dude ever to dwarf sean
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: kevcat on October 11, 2009, 11:35:39 AM
Do u think he would change the way he looked then for good health and looking decent now?
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Matt C on October 11, 2009, 11:42:05 AM
Do u think he would change the way he looked then for good health and looking decent now?

Yes, these days he is going for the healthy look.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=301415.0;attach=343006;image)
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: RJ DRIVER on October 11, 2009, 11:53:05 AM
Greg speaks


WOW, who hangs a giant poster of themselves in the living room?
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: lovemonkey on October 11, 2009, 01:25:22 PM
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/greg1.jpg)

I can not even begin to imagine how big of a pain in the ass it has got to be to carry all that muscle. Can you say out of breath?
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: IceCold on October 11, 2009, 01:32:36 PM
He was something like 385 in these pictures.  Say what you will about him compared to his previous showings, but he was absolutely huge in the above photograph.  In the photos below, put next to Gunter and it is almost as if he is making 265 pound Gunter look as if he doesn't even work out.  :o

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=57872&id=37468&Itemid=202)

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=57400&id=37462&Itemid=202)

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=57400&id=37448&Itemid=202)

PS - who would win in a fight, Greg Kovacs or Georges St. Pierre?  ???


acutally, those pics are from the 97 NOC - kovacs' debut and he weighed 320, not 385.

gsp would win - espeically now.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Danimal77 on October 11, 2009, 02:50:24 PM
Greg speaks



sort of used to look like a HUGE version of Kurt Angle.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Danimal77 on October 11, 2009, 02:51:07 PM
Any confirmations that he was that strong. I remember the MuscleMag articles blowing up his spot saying 585 incines , 800lbs squats , 500lbs behind neck press. And those were all for weight for reps.Chris Cormier called bullshit on alot of it.

Where's Squadfather when you need him. He would have JUMPED on that and claimed BULLSHIT right away.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Earl1972 on October 11, 2009, 04:53:10 PM
i remember feeling sorry for him at the 2004 arnold, he actually cut his routine short

E
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: 2Thick on October 11, 2009, 06:34:29 PM
fogarty didn't even start thinking about dudes until he was 7. the gay mafia should check his bona fides

baygbm seems like he was gay from the get-go

Legend has it that at birth Bay blew the doctor who delivered him.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Steve Namat on October 11, 2009, 08:00:57 PM
But what the hell happened to Greg?  ???

He looked pretty good in the past. He did his pro debut at the 1997 Night Of The Champions, he looked quite good, spilled over and did not place. Then he said that next year he will be in good shape...in '98 he placed 16th at the Ironman...

Then he took 2 years off then came back to the Night Of Champions again in 2001 and did not place again, not even finished the prejudging as I know. And he looked much worse than in the years before.

Then he took 2 years off again and came back at the 2004 Arnold. He was in very good shape and still looked like a nightmare...really-really bad.

Anyway he did the 2005 Toronto Pro too...and he did not place.


What the fuck happened to him? And did he have any sponsors? How he made money? Why he didn't compete more regularly?

I can't understand.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Signifying Monkey on October 11, 2009, 08:02:06 PM


I can't understand.

It's too complicated to explain to you
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Steve Namat on October 11, 2009, 08:08:15 PM
It's too complicated to explain to you
You know Greg personally or what?  ::)
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: dragonfist on October 11, 2009, 08:49:43 PM
But what the hell happened to Greg?  ???

He looked pretty good in the past. He did his pro debut at the 1997 Night Of The Champions, he looked quite good, spilled over and did not place. Then he said that next year he will be in good shape...in '98 he placed 16th at the Ironman...

Then he took 2 years off then came back to the Night Of Champions again in 2001 and did not place again, not even finished the prejudging as I know. And he looked much worse than in the years before.

Then he took 2 years off again and came back at the 2004 Arnold. He was in very good shape and still looked like a nightmare...really-really bad.

Anyway he did the 2005 Toronto Pro too...and he did not place.


What the fuck happened to him? And did he have any sponsors? How he made money? Why he didn't compete more regularly?

I can't understand.

He was sponsored by Muscletech.  They launched the original Muscletch stack with his ads.  He was picked up briefly by another company after that.  I think the ads only ran for a few months.

From what I was told by a guy who brought him out for a seminar and knew some of the same people, it sounds like he did everything in excess.  Huge amounts of food and drugs.  Barely moved when he wasn't in the gym (his wife pretty much did everything for him).
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 11, 2009, 09:18:53 PM
He was sponsered by Muscletech.  They launched the original Muscletch stack with his ads.  He was picked up briefly by another company after that.  The ads ran for a fews months tops.

From what I was told by by a guy who brought him out for a seminar and knew some of the same people, it sounds like he did everything in excess.  Huge amounts of food and drugs.  Barely moved when he wasn't in the gym (his wife pretty much did everything for him).


I knew him personally when he lived in Toronto, through Henderson (Thorne) and other friends, you described him to a T, he hated competing as well that's why he didn't do it more often, he only competed when the dude who started muscletech got on his ass other then that he was happy as a pig in shit, getting $200,000 from muscletech every year + more for seminar's and posing appearances, he overdid it with the growth and insulin.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: uberman09 on October 11, 2009, 09:23:39 PM
He may die young, but he will die knowing he looked better then 99.99999% of everyone else at one point.

quite an achievement isnt it  ::)
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: TrueGrit on October 11, 2009, 09:24:51 PM
 The story on here was that he was crying backstage begging to not have to go out there as that burn victim freak and the supp company forced him under threat of legal action.

 Not sure if true but it's a great story and his face is hilarious in the pics
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Ex Coelis on October 11, 2009, 09:33:33 PM
Kovacs = great Hungarian genetics

Namat looks better, though
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Matt C on October 11, 2009, 09:34:14 PM
I knew him personally when he lived in Toronto, through Henderson (Thorne) and other friends, you described him to a T, he hated competing as well that's why he didn't do it more often, he only competed when the dude who started muscletech got on his ass other then that he was happy as a pig in shit, getting $200,000 from muscletech every year + more for seminar's and posing appearances, he overdid it with the growth and insulin.


What was the association between MuscleTech and MUSCLEMAG?

PS - was Greg 6'2 and 1/2 and up to 400 pounds in the off-season?
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Steve Namat on October 11, 2009, 09:37:32 PM
Kovacs = great Hungarian genetics

Namat looks better, though
Thanks!

And thanks God I can't overdo it with the gh...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 11, 2009, 10:09:00 PM
What was the association between MuscleTech and MUSCLEMAG?

PS - was Greg 6'2 and 1/2 and up to 400 pounds in the off-season?

The guy who founded and owns muscletech WAS a musclemag (store) employee, he ripped off the formala to Ripped Fuel and started selling it on his own as the original hydroxycut (back when ephedrine was legal) I forget his name Paul or John Gardiner, he was in the very first few muscletech/hydroxycut ads... lo and behold many years later, musclemag is almost out of business and going under (barely any stores left) and Muscletech is the main sponsor at the Olympia... Kovacs met Gardiner at a musclemag store, he was one of his first main endorsers you could say, thus Gardiner remained loyal to Kovacs when he blew up with muscletech and took Kovacs along for the ride keeping him under his wing and using him to market a ton of product over the years.. this all happened literally 10 minutes from where I live, LOL... Greg's old house is like 7 minutes from my place.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: dragonfist on October 11, 2009, 10:28:32 PM
The guy who founded and owns muscletech WAS a musclemag (store) employee, he ripped off the formala to Ripped Fuel and started selling it on his own as the original hydroxycut (back when ephedrine was legal) I forget his name Paul or John Gardiner, he was in the very first few muscletech/hydroxycut ads... lo and behold many years later, musclemag is almost out of business and going under (barely any stores left) and Muscletech is the main sponsor at the Olympia... Kovacs met Gardiner at a musclemag store, he was one of his first main endorsers you could say, thus Gardiner remained loyal to Kovacs when he blew up with muscletech and took Kovacs along for the ride keeping him under his wing and using him to market a ton of product over the years.. this all happened literally 10 minutes from where I live, LOL... Greg's old house is like 7 minutes from my place.

Did you see the piece Hard Copy did on Muscle Tech supplements around 2000?  They tested Muscle Tech products and found they nowhere near matched what the labels claimed.  GNC said they were pulling all their products and then the whole thing just seemed to disappear.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 11, 2009, 10:47:25 PM
Did you see the piece Hard Copy did on Muscle Tech supplements around 2000?  They tested Muscle Tech products and found they nowhere near matched what the labels claimed.  GNC said they were pulling all their products and then the whole thing just seemed to disappear.

Hehehe, money talks :)
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: slicksta on October 12, 2009, 12:12:33 AM
its alive!!!!

Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Matt C on October 12, 2009, 12:27:04 AM
gsp would win - espeically now.

Even a prime Kovacs?
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: gordiano on October 12, 2009, 12:38:47 AM
quite an achievement isnt it  ::)

Seriously, what a fucking retarded thing to say.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: TrueGrit on October 12, 2009, 05:43:35 AM
Oldie but goodie
(http://www.kulturystyka.org.pl/gwiazdy/greg/07.jpg)


from this

(http://www.mymusclevideo.com/thumps/48.jpg)
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: BayGBM on October 12, 2009, 05:44:28 AM
Oldie but goodie
(http://www.kulturystyka.org.pl/gwiazdy/greg/07.jpg)

I'm gonna have to take a pass on that.  :-\
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: TrueGrit on October 12, 2009, 05:45:51 AM
I'm gonna have to take a pass on that.  :-\

At least attend to his third degree burns and rotting flesh!!

(http://www.femalemuscle.com/contests/arnold_2004/greg_kovacs/images/D189.JPG)


(http://www.femalemuscle.com/contests/arnold_2004/greg_kovacs/images/D192.JPG)

Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: BayGBM on October 12, 2009, 06:10:00 AM
At least attend to his third degree burns and rotting flesh!!

Bad tanning and lighting are the least of his worries.  :(
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Matt C on October 12, 2009, 06:40:36 PM
Georges St. Pierre vs Greg Kovacs both at their prime in the cage.

Discuss.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 12, 2009, 06:42:39 PM
Georges St. Pierre vs Greg Kovacs both at their prime in the cage.

Discuss.

Hahahha, Kovacs would gas after taking 3 steps and fall over in a heap of limbs and muscle... GSP by lack of oxygen to Kovacs heart.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Matt C on October 12, 2009, 06:53:32 PM
Hahahha, Kovacs would gas after taking 3 steps and fall over in a heap of limbs and muscle... GSP by lack of oxygen to Kovacs heart.


So you're saying that even after seeing this intimidating 6'2 400+ pound Caucasoid mountain of muscle in person, you still think the 5'11 GSP would be able to take him down?
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: dragonfist on October 12, 2009, 06:57:46 PM
Hahahha, Kovacs would gas after taking 3 steps and fall over in a heap of limbs and muscle... GSP by lack of oxygen to Kovacs heart.


He would pass out walking to cage and his wife would end up fighting for him.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: ChristopherA on October 12, 2009, 07:16:37 PM
At least attend to his third degree burns and rotting flesh!!

(http://www.femalemuscle.com/contests/arnold_2004/greg_kovacs/images/D189.JPG)


(http://www.femalemuscle.com/contests/arnold_2004/greg_kovacs/images/D192.JPG)


Whats crazy is he has hamstring separation here! That giant gut but hes ripped?! I have seen Melvin Anthony with worse ham definition on stage.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 12, 2009, 07:19:00 PM
So you're saying that even after seeing this intimidating 6'2 400+ pound Caucasoid mountain of muscle in person, you still think the 5'11 GSP would be able to take him down?

I've seen Greg at the gym, Gold's in Mississauga (in Greater Toronto area)  the man couldn't walk 4 paces without stopping for air and turning purple, he looked like  a walking heart attack... I will even go as far to say that all GSP would have to do is blow air at him and Kovacs would have toppled or had cardiac arrest in the cage. It was almost laughable, the guy didn't even take the 45's off the bar, his wife did that for him.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Matt C on October 12, 2009, 07:40:57 PM
I've seen Greg at the gym, Gold's in Mississauga (in Greater Toronto area)  the man couldn't walk 4 paces without stopping for air and turning purple, he looked like  a walking heart attack... I will even go as far to say that all GSP would have to do is blow air at him and Kovacs would have toppled or had cardiac arrest in the cage. It was almost laughable, the guy didn't even take the 45's off the bar, his wife did that for him.

So you really don't feel Greg's size would be any advantage at all?
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 12, 2009, 07:47:43 PM
So you really don't feel Greg's size would be any advantage at all?

Dude, the guy couldn't walk 3 paces without keeling over like he was going into cardiac arrest, have you seen the cardio required for an MMA bout? even one 5 minute round, Kovacs wouldn't last 15 seconds before collapsing.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Matt C on October 12, 2009, 11:36:02 PM
Dude, the guy couldn't walk 3 paces without keeling over like he was going into cardiac arrest, have you seen the cardio required for an MMA bout? even one 5 minute round, Kovacs wouldn't last 15 seconds before collapsing.


I thought maybe Greg could win due to his size and strength advantage but I guess I was wrong.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Signifying Monkey on October 12, 2009, 11:37:45 PM
I've seen Greg at the gym, Gold's in Mississauga (in Greater Toronto area)  the man couldn't walk 4 paces without stopping for air and turning purple, he looked like  a walking heart attack... I will even go as far to say that all GSP would have to do is blow air at him and Kovacs would have toppled or had cardiac arrest in the cage. It was almost laughable, the guy didn't even take the 45's off the bar, his wife did that for him.

so he couldn't take the 45s off the bar, but he could lift them?
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 13, 2009, 02:08:27 AM
so he couldn't take the 45s off the bar, but he could lift them?

He could, he was just too lazy and would probably get out of breath if he had to stand up, walk 2 feet to the end of the bar, pull the 45 off and go back... he was a walking heart attack, esp. towards the end of his career when he really ramped up the growth and insulin.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Pecs on October 13, 2009, 03:53:27 AM
So you really don't feel Greg's size would be any advantage at all?

there is a point when the extra size is too much and will work against you.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: spinnis on October 13, 2009, 04:24:35 AM
I thought maybe Greg could win due to his size and strength advantage but I guess I was wrong.

he would punch then move, punch move punch move etc, and Greg wouldnt know what hit him.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: BIG_STI on October 13, 2009, 06:05:20 AM
LOL in that vid bay posted he claims to of benched 425lbs 19 times and behind the neck pressed 405 for 6 - 8 reps and all at the age of 19  ::)
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Pecs on October 13, 2009, 06:13:32 AM
LOL in that vid bay posted he claims to of benched 425lbs 19 times and behind the neck pressed 405 for 6 - 8 reps and all at the age of 19  ::)

everyday folks who are not in the "loop" will actually believe him because of his built. But we know better.....not many men in this world can do it.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: hipolito mejia on October 13, 2009, 07:00:18 AM
He may die young, but he will die knowing he looked better then 99.99999% of everyone else at one point.


However, 99.999999% of women who watched him during that time would look at him and say  "gross" .
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: hipolito mejia on October 13, 2009, 07:23:58 AM
But what the hell happened to Greg?  ???

What the fuck happened to him?
I can't understand.

A massive combination of Vanity and Irresponsibility.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: pellius on October 13, 2009, 12:20:18 PM
He destroyed himself for us bitches.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Matt C on October 13, 2009, 12:23:57 PM
Is this true, in particular the bit in bold?

It's business as usual at the gym.  A symphony of humming pulleys, clanging iron plates, the grunting of uber-men taxing their muscles beyond the limit, the raucous laughter between men.  Then!  A hush falls over this din, as HE muscle-walks into the room.  Jaws drop and FISHY smelling pussies moisten. It's Greg Kovacs...and he's back!
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Hulkotron on October 13, 2009, 12:36:09 PM
I am always amazed by this picture.  His obliques are fucking enormous.  Savage figure-8 taper.

Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: d0nny2600 on October 13, 2009, 12:39:40 PM
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Stavios on October 13, 2009, 12:47:52 PM
There were black and whites side by side pictures of the 2004 arnold in musclemags and Kovacs owned a lot of guys in the back double bi from what I remember from the pics.


Also, had Bob Chick been in better condition he would have placed very well in that show
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Matt C on October 13, 2009, 03:55:43 PM
Greg may not have been very competitive as a pro, but he must have been a sight to behold in person.  From the 2004 Arnold:

(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3218&stc=1&d=1136440385)

(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3219&stc=1&d=1136440498)

(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3220&stc=1&d=1136440639)

From the 2005 Toronto Pro:

(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3074&stc=1&d=1117929406)
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Danimal77 on October 13, 2009, 08:48:05 PM
 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

HOLY SHIT....

Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Signifying Monkey on October 13, 2009, 08:51:27 PM
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

HOLY SHIT....



fixed
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 13, 2009, 11:40:28 PM
I'm telling you guys, in person him and Scott Milne weren't human looking... it's one thing to be jacked up to 250 and 5'8 but a WHOLE other game when you're 6"3 and 325...human walls, just monstrous looking.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Matt C on October 14, 2009, 12:20:32 AM
I'm telling you guys, in person him and Scott Milne weren't human looking... it's one thing to be jacked up to 250 and 5'8 but a WHOLE other game when you're 6"3 and 325...human walls, just monstrous looking.


And you still think GSP could beat him?  ;D  Do you think GSP could take both Greg and Scott at the same time in the cage?  :o

PS - the dude next to Greg is probably 5'10 and 200, not exactly a small man by normal standards, but looks like a tiny tit next to Greg:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=301415.0;attach=343448;image)
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Captain Equipoise on October 14, 2009, 12:34:10 AM
And you still think GSP could beat him?  ;D  Do you think GSP could take both Greg and Scott at the same time in the cage?  :o

PS - the dude next to Greg is probably 5'10 and 200, not exactly a small man by normal standards, but looks like a tiny tit next to Greg:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=301415.0;attach=343448;image)

Man, you keep missing the point I am making...Kovacs couldn't walk 10 feet without collapsing in a heap and struggling to get oxygen into his system... how do you expect him (even with his colossal size) to go up against a pro fighter that's conditioned to fight 3-5  5 minute rounds ?!?! GSP would literally be dancing around Kovacs just hitting him, if he get behind him Kovacs is so wide it would take him 10 seconds to turn around, by that time GSP would have an anaconda or rear naked choke on him.

strength and size doesn't mean shit if you're not able to use it.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: pellius on October 14, 2009, 02:40:07 AM
In Jiu-Jitsu they call the rear naked choke mata leon which literally means lion kill, i.e., that if the choke is done correctly you can put out a lion. Also, when a lion kills it's prey it doesn't tear it apart but locks on to the neck until it's prey is unconscious or goes down so the others can tear it apart. Of course putting a lion to sleep is a bit of an embellishment but the point is that no matter how big you are you still have to breath. I saw a video where a 13 year old boy was fighting a full grown man much larger than himself and the boy got to the man's back (piggy back style) and choked him unconscious using the mata leon.

GSP , BJ Penn, scrawny Ken Florian, and any decent purple belt in Jiu-Jitsu will easily choke that giant mess Kovacs unconscious with a minimal of effort.

Watch the first episode of TUF on the net where they feature the heavy weights. Watch the first fight. These are big guys who are actually train in MMA. Watch what happens when they gas, which happens very quickly. All that muscle means nothing. It's almost embarrassing to watch. These big guys talking tough before their fight bent over resting their hands on their knees on national TV sucking wind having loss their will to continue and just want the clock to run out.

Being big and strong does not translate into fighting ability. Just like being in great condition does not mean you can fight.  Fighting is a skill. Strength and stamina are a physical attributes. They certainly complement any athlete but in and of themselves are insufficient in being a good fighter.

Kovacs vs. GSP: Kovacs gases half way through a punch. Falls to the ground gasping for air. A confused and bewildered GSP looks to the ref for direction. The ref calls an end to the bout and the GSP camp ambles out looking around somewhat perplexed and puzzled by what just happened. A medical crew has now surrounded a still prone Kovacs administering oxygen and wondering how they are going to hoist this grotesque mass of flesh out of the cage. 

Captain Equipoise = Knows what he is talking about.
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: Spike on October 14, 2009, 07:53:59 AM
Do schmoes even want him anymore?  When the schmoes don't want you, it's all over.  :'(

true


defines marketability as a bb'er = how much money you make someone = how much money YOU make urself
Title: Re: Kovacs
Post by: io856 on October 14, 2009, 08:00:35 AM
someone was telling me a while back this particular expo freak was doing some poses to reveal the most grotesque stretch marks outside of BSA's quads all over his chest starting from inner chest to shoulder region  :-X