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Title: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 18, 2009, 07:30:17 PM
Apparently the administration is butt hurt about fox's critical coverage of them but have still pledged to appear on the network.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_fox_news

"Axelrod said administration officials would appear on the channel."

whats funny is they seem to say that fox "It is not a news organization so much as it has a perspective." from good old never waste a crisis himself...

I really dont see the difference between fox and other stations such as abc, cnn, nbc other then fox is critical of them all of those have opinion based programming as well but also have news shows just like fox does during the day.

whats the difference?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 18, 2009, 07:46:59 PM
why not, they've been acting more like neocons.
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 18, 2009, 07:56:34 PM
why not, they've been acting more like neocons.
hows that hugo?

and they want to talk about fox being an opinion based news channel, how is that any different from cnn, abc or nbc? yet they go on there programs

so what they are saying is we arent going on fox b/c they are critical of us?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: 240 is Back on October 18, 2009, 08:36:15 PM
headline news is an actual news outlet.  You hear the top stories of the day, very quickly, with zero analysis.  Every 30 minutes, you hear them again.

Both FOX and MSN are stations which report news their viewers will stay tuned in to, followed with analysis that sits well with their viewers.  that's it.
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 18, 2009, 08:59:22 PM
headline news is an actual news outlet.  You hear the top stories of the day, very quickly, with zero analysis.  Every 30 minutes, you hear them again.

Both FOX and MSN are stations which report news their viewers will stay tuned in to, followed with analysis that sits well with their viewers.  that's it.
bro the majority of fox programs during the day are the same way its like a constant loop of news as well

also youre pointing out the exception to the rule not the rule if they have opinion based shows like fox how are they any different?

so basically what the obama administration is saying is that we dont go on fox b/c they are critical of us?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: 240 is Back on October 18, 2009, 09:04:27 PM
bro the majority of fox programs during the day are the same way its like a constant loop of news as well

ehhhhhhhhhhhh

They select news based upon what their viewers want.  When Obama wno the Nobel prize, it got VERY little coverage during the day - it was police chases and bomb scares.  I can assure you if Bush had been awarded the same prize for getting saddam, we would have seen a BIT more coverage that day ;)

MSN does and would do the same, however.


so basically what the obama administration is saying is that we dont go on fox b/c they are critical of us?

Absolutely.  They are VERY harsh.  Does the white house have a respoinsibility to speak to EVERY news channel?  Bush could and did ignore msnbc once polls turned on him with the iraq war.
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Straw Man on October 18, 2009, 09:08:04 PM
I wonder if Fox will even air their own show

haven't they skipped covering the POTUS last 2-3 times he was speaking to the nation?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 18, 2009, 09:12:12 PM
ehhhhhhhhhhhh

They select news based upon what their viewers want.  When Obama wno the Nobel prize, it got VERY little coverage during the day - it was police chases and bomb scares.  I can assure you if Bush had been awarded the same prize for getting saddam, we would have seen a BIT more coverage that day ;)

MSN does and would do the same, however.


Absolutely.  They are VERY harsh.  Does the white house have a respoinsibility to speak to EVERY news channel?  Bush could and did ignore msnbc once polls turned on him with the iraq war.
lol absolutely not dip shit...i was watching fox when he got awarded it that was all they talked about for hours...

I know you tuned in for 2 mins and saw they werent covering it right then and ASSumed they didnt but they gave that plenty of coverage...

bubbbbuuubuuuububuuuuuuu buuuusshhhh diddd itttt  ;)
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 18, 2009, 09:13:54 PM
I wonder if Fox will even air their own show

haven't they skipped covering the POTUS last 2-3 times he was speaking to the nation?
no not at all they generally always cover his live speaches
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Straw Man on October 18, 2009, 09:30:33 PM
no not at all they generally always cover his live speaches

dude

you might want to do a little research and get back to me on that one
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 18, 2009, 09:33:12 PM
dude

you might want to do a little research and get back to me on that one
actually brother you might want to actually watch fox and realize that what 240 post on here is his usual spin.

they covered his reception speech and they cover just about every speech he makes...
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: headhuntersix on October 19, 2009, 02:48:00 PM
They are getting Fox Network mixed with Fox News....Fox News always covers his news conferences....Fox Network bows to their audience and actually plays the shows that sponsors paid for. The Networks were getting pissed at all his primetime campaign speeches. Barry and his whiny band of idiots want the other networks to distance themselves from barry because Fox is the only organization that calls him and his marxists out. Did Bush say shut down MSNBC. Did Bush officials stop appearing on the Sunday programs? This is why libs are dangerous...this is why I hate them.
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Skip8282 on October 19, 2009, 03:19:31 PM

Absolutely.  They are VERY harsh.  Does the white house have a respoinsibility to speak to EVERY news channel?  Bush could and did ignore msnbc once polls turned on him with the iraq war.


They're not obligated to speak to FoxNews, but I think they're just hurting themselves.  Fox is boasting it's viewership is up 20% since last year.  I'm sure there are plenty who watch Fox and voted for Obama so ostracizing them will eventually backfire, IMO.

Besides, being afraid of "tough" questions really doesn't speak well towards Obama's administration.
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: 240 is Back on October 19, 2009, 07:27:49 PM
great point -

they don't carry his press conferences.

he, in turn, doesn't talk to them.

I mean, at least NBC covered Bush's speeches, right?  We have "So you think you can dance" on FOX instead of the president of the USA (and republican response).
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 19, 2009, 09:04:33 PM
great point -

they don't carry his press conferences.

he, in turn, doesn't talk to them.

I mean, at least NBC covered Bush's speeches, right?  We have "So you think you can dance" on FOX instead of the president of the USA (and republican response).
what press conferences didnt they carry? specifically?

everyone you have said they havent as of late i actually watched on fox... ;)
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: BM OUT on October 20, 2009, 10:25:53 AM
great point -

they don't carry his press conferences.

he, in turn, doesn't talk to them.

I mean, at least NBC covered Bush's speeches, right?  We have "So you think you can dance" on FOX instead of the president of the USA (and republican response).

You stupid little man.FOX news covered his news conferance.It was the entertainment part of FOX that didnt.So,once again,you libs are liars.

Now,you talk about news and perspective.Stehanoplois is on ABC news and will be the backup anchor.This is a left wing political hack.I guess thats a fair perspective.
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: 240 is Back on October 20, 2009, 12:53:53 PM
You stupid little man.FOX news covered his news conferance.It was the entertainment part of FOX that didnt.So,once again,you libs are liars.

We've already established FOX NEWS only gets .8% of Americans, at its absolute peak.

Fox (the channel) gets way more viewers.

now, eat shit.
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 20, 2009, 12:55:14 PM
We've already established FOX NEWS only gets .8% of Americans, at its absolute peak.

Fox (the channel) gets way more viewers.

now, eat shit.

Then why is ****** attacking it daily?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 20, 2009, 12:56:29 PM
what press conferences didnt they carry? specifically?

everyone you have said they havent as of late i actually watched on fox... ;)
bump for an answer 240 unless you were just speaking out your ass like you normally do.
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: BM OUT on October 20, 2009, 01:00:04 PM
We've already established FOX NEWS only gets .8% of Americans, at its absolute peak.

Fox (the channel) gets way more viewers.

now, eat shit.

Its FOX news that the racist Obama administration is going after NOT FOX entertainment you stupid girl.Get your fucking head out of Obamas ass you filthy race traitor.Ashamed of your own race you support a guy who HATES whites.You will be the first to swing on the day of the rope you little girl.
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: 240 is Back on October 20, 2009, 04:57:15 PM
bump for an answer 240 unless you were just speaking out your ass like you normally do.

Fox Snubs Obama for “Lie to Me”
Apr 27, 2009 ... Fox Snubs Obama for "Lie to Me".
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: 240 is Back on October 20, 2009, 06:04:19 PM
Its FOX news that the racist Obama administration is going after NOT FOX entertainment you stupid ####.

So the .8% of americans (far-right americans, mind you) matter more to Obama than 30 million swing voters watching primetime TV?  Um, no.

You will be the first to swing on the day of the rope you little ####.

Sounds like a threat
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 20, 2009, 07:18:29 PM
Fox Snubs Obama for “Lie to Me”
Apr 27, 2009 ... Fox Snubs Obama for "Lie to Me".
thats not FOX NEWS YOU JACK ASS thats fox  ::) :-X

you fuking idiotic spin machine

Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 20, 2009, 07:22:49 PM
Fox Snubs Obama for “Lie to Me”
Apr 27, 2009 ... Fox Snubs Obama for "Lie to Me".
Eat shit and die you dumb liberal obama butt plug

This Wednesday, Obama will give a press conference, marking 100 days in office, at 8 p.m. E.T. But Fox network has become the first to refuse to carry it, opting instead to air Lie to Me as scheduled. Fox News—and the other broadcast and cable news networks—still plan to carry the conference.

Read more: http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2009/04/27/fox-picks-lie-to-me-over-obama-presser/#ixzz0UX76G6EJ

http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2009/04/27/fox-picks-lie-to-me-over-obama-presser/


anything else 240 or were you just talking out of your ass as usual?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: 240 is Back on October 20, 2009, 07:51:45 PM
Fox Declines Obama Press Conference, NBC Says Yes Only After Time ...
Jul 21, 2009 ... Fox News IS going to be covering the Press Conference. .... And this is why So

Fox picks 'So You Think You Can Dance' over Obama news conference ...
Fox picks 'So You Think You Can Dance' over Obama news conference. Posted: July 21, 2009


Here in Chicago Obama's News Conference will not be on Fox ...
13 posts - 10 authors - Last post: Oct 7
Here in Chicago Obama's News Conference will not be on Fox. ... because they are showing "So You Think You Can Dance" instead of the Prez! ...


Fox News Boycott » Fox News Not Broadcasting Obama Press Conf. Again
Jul 21, 2009 ... to cover” President Obama's prime-time press conference on July 22. ... So You Think You Can Dance, but will direct viewers to Fox News ...
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Skip8282 on October 20, 2009, 07:59:25 PM
Fox Declines Obama Press Conference, NBC Says Yes Only After Time ...
Jul 21, 2009 ... Fox News IS going to be covering the Press Conference. .... And this is why So

Fox picks 'So You Think You Can Dance' over Obama news conference ...
Fox picks 'So You Think You Can Dance' over Obama news conference. Posted: July 21, 2009


Here in Chicago Obama's News Conference will not be on Fox ...
13 posts - 10 authors - Last post: Oct 7
Here in Chicago Obama's News Conference will not be on Fox. ... because they are showing "So You Think You Can Dance" instead of the Prez! ...


Fox News Boycott » Fox News Not Broadcasting Obama Press Conf. Again
Jul 21, 2009 ... to cover” President Obama's prime-time press conference on July 22. ... So You Think You Can Dance, but will direct viewers to Fox News ...



LOL.  You're just not quite able to make the distinction, eh?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: 240 is Back on October 20, 2009, 08:34:07 PM
there was one night that FOX played "dance" instead of Obama.  yes, they did his press conference on FOX NEWS, which only .8% of americans watch at its peak, and which you must have cable to watch.

Does anyone dispute this, that FOX's main network blew off Obama when the other majors carried it?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: 240 is Back on October 20, 2009, 08:47:35 PM
When you want to be class president again, you don't care much about speaking to the political science class (FOX NEWS viewers) who already spend all day bitching about the job you are already doing.

You want to paper the hallway with colorful posters (FOX) convincing the dimwit freshman (swing voters) to vote for you.

Obama knows 98% of FOX voters are gonna vote against him.  But he knows that using his star power on FOX viewers primed to watch some lame mind-numbing drivel like "dance" is gonna help him in polls when getting this healthcare agenda thru.


Anyway, 33 declared the healthcare bill dead months ago.  Why are we still talking about it?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 21, 2009, 04:43:51 AM
When you want to be class president again, you don't care much about speaking to the political science class (FOX NEWS viewers) who already spend all day bitching about the job you are already doing.

You want to paper the hallway with colorful posters (FOX) convincing the dimwit freshman (swing voters) to vote for you.

Obama knows 98% of FOX voters are gonna vote against him.  But he knows that using his star power on FOX viewers primed to watch some lame mind-numbing drivel like "dance" is gonna help him in polls when getting this healthcare agenda thru.


Anyway, 33 declared the healthcare bill dead months ago.  Why are we still talking about it?

Because the Dems fail on health care means their base never shows up for 2010 or 2012. 

I am reading this book right now about Entitlement programs and I seriously want to drink when you read how royally screwed we are.   

For any party to push more govt spending right now is utter madness.  When I said it was dead, I had figuered that perhaps and ounce of sanity might prevail, but I am dead wrong on that.  Obama/Pelosi/Reid are like crackheads and will do anything to push for this shit sandwich, regardless of whether it bankrupts the nation even further than we are already screwed. 

Do you realize we are almost 75 Trillion in debt with SS & Medicare and dont even have a fraction of the workers or people needed to pay for it? 

SS is a complete farce as is Medicare and the govt wants to spend more?  INSANE. 

Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: 240 is Back on October 21, 2009, 07:59:34 AM
SS is a complete farce as is Medicare and the govt wants to spend more?  INSANE. 

no candidate will touch these, because they would automatically lose the entire over-50 vote.
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 21, 2009, 08:09:06 AM
which FOX do you think the administration was talking about you idiotic numb nut?

FOX NEWS or fox?

dont be a jack ass

nbc doesnt move off their soaps during the day to broadcast his shit either but MSNBC does you dim witted jack ass

Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 21, 2009, 08:09:53 AM
there was one night that FOX played "dance" instead of Obama.  yes, they did his press conference on FOX NEWS, which only .8% of americans watch at its peak, and which you must have cable to watch.

Does anyone dispute this, that FOX's main network blew off Obama when the other majors carried it?
LOL what a jack ass so i guess you shit on the other stations for doing the same thing?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 21, 2009, 08:11:38 AM
no candidate will touch these, because they would automatically lose the entire over-50 vote.

240 - read this book if you get a chance.  These programs are fiscal timb bombs that are going to wreck this nation and future generations. 

Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 21, 2009, 08:11:50 AM
there was one night that FOX played "dance" instead of Obama.  yes, they did his press conference on FOX NEWS, which only .8% of americans watch at its peak, and which you must have cable to watch.

Does anyone dispute this, that FOX's main network blew off Obama when the other majors carried it?
and this wasnt the point of the administration

the administration is attacking FOX NEWS not fox which host local news as well as entertainment tv

the administration says they dont want to go on fox b/c its opinion based, isnt MSNBC, CNN, ABC? LOL so what the administration is really saying is they dont want to go on FOX b/c they are critical of them?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Straw Man on October 21, 2009, 09:10:59 AM
there was one night that FOX played "dance" instead of Obama.  yes, they did his press conference on FOX NEWS, which only .8% of americans watch at its peak, and which you must have cable to watch.

Does anyone dispute this, that FOX's main network blew off Obama when the other majors carried it?

Fox didn't air Obama's 100 day new conference in April.

They didn't cover another news conference in July

They didn't cover his joint address to Congress in Sept.

We know Fox is Fair and Balanced (they say it so it must be true).

Are there similar examples of not covering an address by Bush to the nation?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: 240 is Back on October 21, 2009, 09:15:49 AM
tony, honestly, you use the words 'jackass' and 'buttplug' so much in your posts, I can't make sense of your posts.

Can you put all the insulting words separate, so your posts will make sense?  Something like...


I'm referring to FOX News, not the FOX Network.


jackass, jackass, jackass, jackass, jackass, jackass, jackass, buttplug, Obamabuttplug, jackass, jackass, jackass, jackass, jackass.


jackass.
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 21, 2009, 09:24:14 AM
Fox didn't air Obama's 100 day new conference in April.

They didn't cover another news conference in July

They didn't cover his joint address to Congress in Sept.

We know Fox is Fair and Balanced (they say it so it must be true).

Are there similar examples of not covering an address by Bush to the nation?

Maybe jusy maybe Fox wanted to give the viewers a choice not to watch that staged garbage since it was on a million other channels. 

***** really needs to grow up and stop acting like a high school girl.  What a sensitive little punk he is. 

One network doesnt like him and all of sudden it becomes his main focus in life.     
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: BM OUT on October 21, 2009, 09:25:02 AM
Fox didn't air Obama's 100 day new conference in April.

They didn't cover another news conference in July

They didn't cover his joint address to Congress in Sept.

We know Fox is Fair and Balanced (they say it so it must be true).

Are there similar examples of not covering an address by Bush to the nation?

Yes ,Bush had quite a few press conferances that werent covered by the networks.
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: 240 is Back on October 21, 2009, 09:26:50 AM
Maybe jusy maybe Fox wanted to give the viewers a choice not to watch that staged garbage since it was on a million other channels. 

I see. 

So politics had nothing to do with it, huh?  They just "decided" to do this during the Obama era, though.  They played everything Bush did.
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 21, 2009, 09:29:16 AM
I see. 

So politics had nothing to do with it, huh?  They just "decided" to do this during the Obama era, though.  They played everything Bush did.

If ****** has a press conference EVERY DAY dont you think the networks after a while will say FUCK OFF? 

The meglomaniac is addicted to TV and being in front of the camera. 
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Straw Man on October 21, 2009, 10:01:12 AM
Yes ,Bush had quite a few press conferances that werent covered by the networks.

fair enough - please list some examples
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: 240 is Back on October 21, 2009, 10:07:24 AM
If ****** has a press conference EVERY DAY dont you think the networks after a while will say FUCK OFF? 

The meglomaniac is addicted to TV and being in front of the camera. 

He's only done a handful of prime time tv press conferences as president.
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 21, 2009, 10:16:41 AM
He's only done a handful of prime time tv press conferences as president.

He doesnt do them anymore because without the teleprompter he is incoherent, rambling, and ignorant. 

Accusing doctors of stealing tonsils and feet anyone?   
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 21, 2009, 12:58:55 PM
Fact of the matter 240 and straw is the administration was talking about fox news channel not the fox network

So your examples are nothing more than straw men that is unless you havesome info that shows otherwise...didn't think so
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: BM OUT on October 21, 2009, 01:29:38 PM
fair enough - please list some examples

Former Vice President Dick Cheney and other Bush administration officials sometimes let it be known that they stuck with Fox News for their informational needs. And on Tuesday, Fox News returned the favor, even as the rest of Washington remained gripped by Obama fever. 

Late Tuesday afternoon, Fox News was the only major national TV outlet that carried a live telecast of former President Bush's homecoming speech to cheering supporters in Midland, Texas.

"Sometimes what I did wasn't popular," a smiling Bush told the crowd. "But that's OK. I always did what I thought was right."

The rest of the networks, however, did not see the Bush address as news fit to broadcast. At 6:40 p.m. EST, MSNBC was in the middle of "Hardball," with host Chris Matthews and guests batting around the meaning of Obama's swearing-in. CNN was carrying live ongoing coverage of the final moments of the inaugural parade, with the Obamas beaming from the White House reviewing stand.

The broadcast networks likewise did not cover the Bush speech. At least in Los Angeles, both KCBS-Channel 2 and KNBC-Channel 4 had returned to regular syndicated programming ("Judge Judy" and "Deal or No Deal"). KABC-Channel 7 was airing local news.

Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: George Whorewell on October 21, 2009, 03:18:12 PM
Some of you are so predictable it's pathetic.

Obama is on TV every fucking day on practically every channel making another bogus speech or answering scripted questions from soft media outlets, or yucking it up on Leno or Letterman or doing Administration infomercials on one of the Network channels to push his agenda on healthcare.

Fox covers all of the state of the unions and every single press conference the chosen one gives is covered on the nightly news. Obama is the most overexposed President in American history ( he has appeared on television more than twice as many times as Bush has in 10 months than Bush did in 8 years). Lets also not forget Obama's silly ass attempts to spin utter horseshit into positive press so as to distract the public from the mess he has made of the presidency-- Here is a very short list which could easily take up an entire page: the cop having beer with that jackass professor from Harvard, Obama and the first ladies embarassing failure to get the Olympic games in Chicago, the scripted townhall meetings, the public school indoctrination videos,  the constant barrage of TV and radio commercials, requesting that people email the white house where there is "fishy criticism" of Obama care, and now having his press secretary and media advisor bash Fox News when his poll numbers are dropping.

When the only network that seriously questions the adminstration is taken to task by the puppets pulling Obama's strings, it is obvious that Obama's handlers are infuriated that they can't completely doiminate, control and undermine the American publics perception of Obama. 


And PS-- If FOX News covered the press conference, why is this even an issue?!?! Fox owns Fox News and is availible free nationwide.
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Skip8282 on October 21, 2009, 03:46:11 PM
When the only network that seriously questions the adminstration is taken to task by the puppets pulling Obama's strings, it is obvious that Obama's handlers are infuriated that they can't completely doiminate, control and undermine the American publics perception of Obama. 


:D
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Straw Man on October 21, 2009, 07:06:59 PM
Former Vice President Dick Cheney and other Bush administration officials sometimes let it be known that they stuck with Fox News for their informational needs. And on Tuesday, Fox News returned the favor, even as the rest of Washington remained gripped by Obama fever. 

Late Tuesday afternoon, Fox News was the only major national TV outlet that carried a live telecast of former President Bush's homecoming speech to cheering supporters in Midland, Texas.

"Sometimes what I did wasn't popular," a smiling Bush told the crowd. "But that's OK. I always did what I thought was right."

The rest of the networks, however, did not see the Bush address as news fit to broadcast. At 6:40 p.m. EST, MSNBC was in the middle of "Hardball," with host Chris Matthews and guests batting around the meaning of Obama's swearing-in. CNN was carrying live ongoing coverage of the final moments of the inaugural parade, with the Obamas beaming from the White House reviewing stand.

The broadcast networks likewise did not cover the Bush speech. At least in Los Angeles, both KCBS-Channel 2 and KNBC-Channel 4 had returned to regular syndicated programming ("Judge Judy" and "Deal or No Deal"). KABC-Channel 7 was airing local news.

That's all you can find?

We're talking about example where POTUS is addressing the nation and all you can find is an example of private citizen Bush giving a "homecoming" speech?

Go back and find an example where Bush addressed a joint session of Congress or addressed the nation directly while in the office of President

Fair and Balanced?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 21, 2009, 08:11:28 PM
That's all you can find?

We're talking about example where POTUS is addressing the nation and all you can find is an example of private citizen Bush giving a "homecoming" speech?

Go back and find an example where Bush addressed a joint session of Congress or addressed the nation directly while in the office of President

Fair and Balanced?
Fact of the matter 240 and straw is the administration was talking about fox news channel not the fox network

So your examples are nothing more than straw men that is unless you havesome info that shows otherwise...didn't think so
thats all you got?  ;)
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Straw Man on October 21, 2009, 08:26:41 PM
thats all you got?  ;)

which channel can be accessed by for free by the largest group of people: 

Fox or Fox News?

NBC or MSNBC

Who owns the public airwaves?   
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 21, 2009, 08:37:23 PM
which channel can be accessed by for free by the largest group of people: 

Fox or Fox News?

NBC or MSNBC

Who owns the public airwaves?   
NBC doesnt air all his conferences either straw you want to bitch about that?

he still goes on MSNBC doesnt he?

it doesnt matter what channel gets more viewers what matters is what the administration was talking about brain child and it wasnt fox it was FOX NEWS!!!!!!!!

so pointing out fox not airing his press conferences and trying to extend that to FOX NEWS is ASSININE
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Straw Man on October 21, 2009, 08:53:20 PM
NBC doesnt air all his conferences either straw you want to bitch about that?

he still goes on MSNBC doesnt he?

it doesnt matter what channel gets more viewers what matters is what the administration was talking about brain child and it wasnt fox it was FOX NEWS!!!!!!!!

so pointing out fox not airing his press conferences and trying to extend that to FOX NEWS is ASSININE

be specific
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 21, 2009, 09:18:47 PM
be specific
first address the point of this thread and then ill address your assinine tangent.

which wasnt fox or nbc it was FOX NEWS and MSNBC so basically what the administration is saying is that they dont go on fox b/c they are critical of them?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Straw Man on October 21, 2009, 09:32:04 PM
Apparently the administration is butt hurt about fox's critical coverage of them but have still pledged to appear on the network.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_fox_news

"Axelrod said administration officials would appear on the channel."

whats funny is they seem to say that fox "It is not a news organization so much as it has a perspective." from good old never waste a crisis himself...

I really dont see the difference between fox and other stations such as abc, cnn, nbc other then fox is critical of them all of those have opinion based programming as well but also have news shows just like fox does during the day.

whats the difference?



are you talking about Fox or Fox News ?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: George Whorewell on October 22, 2009, 06:53:47 AM
God this thread has become moronic.

Tony just pointed out what everyone else realized 2 pages ago. Straw is either too stupid or too delusional to grasp the obvious. Tony repeats the same thing for the 5th time ( effectively killing Straws argument again) and Straw once again responds with "be specific".

Great political discourse taking place here.  ::)
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 22, 2009, 07:06:06 AM
are you talking about Fox or Fox News ?
what do you think straw?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 22, 2009, 07:11:33 AM
what do you think straw?

Straw loves to discuss these meaningless issues because it gives him the chance to avoid anything of any serious significance.   
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Straw Man on October 22, 2009, 09:01:10 AM
what do you think straw?

you asked me to address the point of this thread so I went back and read it and it's a rambling mess.

What is the question of the original post?  It the question what's the difference between the different stations (both network and cable)?

Fox (the main network that's free and has many more viewers than Faux News) has repeatedly refused to show coverage of Obama's national speeches.    The other networks all show them.

Since we know Fox is Fair and Balanced I'm sure there are multiple examples of them giving Bush the exact same treatment while POTUS.



Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 22, 2009, 09:03:01 AM
you asked me to address the point of this thread so I went back and read it and it's a rambling mess.

What is the question of the original post?  It the question what's the difference between the different stations (both network and cable)?

Fox (the main network that's free and has many more viewers than Faux News) has repeatedly refused to show coverage of Obama's national speeches.    The other networks all show them.

Since we know Fox is Fair and Balanced I'm sure there are multiple examples of them giving Bush the exact same treatment while POTUS.

Bush wasnt addicted to being on the TV like ***** is.  BTW - go watch "The Warning" and lets discuss how everything is Bushs' fault. 
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 22, 2009, 09:10:56 AM
you asked me to address the point of this thread so I went back and read it and it's a rambling mess.

What is the question of the original post?  It the question what's the difference between the different stations (both network and cable)?

Fox (the main network that's free and has many more viewers than Faux News) has repeatedly refused to show coverage of Obama's national speeches.    The other networks all show them.

Since we know Fox is Fair and Balanced I'm sure there are multiple examples of them giving Bush the exact same treatment while POTUS.
try to follow the train of thought i know its hard for you

who was the administration talking about fox or FOX NEWS?

its clear they were talking about FOX NEWS as obamas last interview he defended their comments about "FOX NEWS"

so they say that FOX is opinion based and not a news house, isnt MSNBC, CNN, ABC? the officials go on their station dont they?

so what the administration is basically saying is they dont go on FOX NEWS b/c they are critical of them, right?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 22, 2009, 09:13:41 AM
try to follow the train of thought i know its hard for you

who was the administration talking about fox or FOX NEWS?

its clear they were talking about FOX NEWS as obamas last interview he defended their comments about "FOX NEWS"

so they say that FOX is opinion based and not a news house, isnt MSNBC, CNN, ABC? the officials go on their station dont they?

so what the administration is basically saying is they dont go on FOX NEWS b/c they are critical of them, right?

****** is a complete joke.  His entire admn is filled with freaks, marxists, college communists, etc.  They are utterly clueless and simply cant stand any scrutinty whatsoever. 
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Straw Man on October 22, 2009, 09:16:04 AM
try to follow the train of thought i know its hard for you

who was the administration talking about fox or FOX NEWS?

its clear they were talking about FOX NEWS as obamas last interview he defended their comments about "FOX NEWS"

so they say that FOX is opinion based and not a news house, isnt MSNBC, CNN, ABC? the officials go on their station dont they?

so what the administration is basically saying is they dont go on FOX NEWS b/c they are critical of them, right?

I'm responding to your original post, as you requested

wtf is your original point or question?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 22, 2009, 09:19:50 AM
I'm responding to your original post, as you requested

wtf is your original point or question?
why is the administration not going on FOX NEWS but still going on MSNBC, ABC, CNN? they call FOX opinion based and not a news clearing house, they are a news clearing house but have opinion based programs same as MSNBC, ABC and CNN so why does he go on those and not FOX?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Straw Man on October 22, 2009, 09:24:52 AM
why is the administration not going on FOX NEWS but still going on MSNBC, ABC, CNN? they call FOX opinion based and not a news clearing house, they are a news clearing house but have opinion based programs same as MSNBC, ABC and CNN so why does he go on those and not FOX?

simple - Fox News shit all over them during the campaign and now during the administration

Fox News cheers Obama's failures and criticizes his success

Fox "News" routinely makes factual errors that they never correct

Fox "News" is not a news organization

btw - isn't the point of your thread the officials from the administration are in fact going to be on Fox News?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 22, 2009, 09:32:45 AM
simple - Fox News shit all over them during the campaign and now during the administration

Fox News cheers Obama's failures and criticizes his success

Fox "News" routinely makes factual errors that they never correct

Fox "News" is not a news organization

btw - isn't the point of your thread the officials from the administration are in fact going to be on Fox News?

The news is supposed to be the watchdog over the govt you idiot.  I guess you prefer dick ducking 24/7 like MSNBC does? 
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 22, 2009, 09:37:29 AM
simple - Fox News shit all over them during the campaign and now during the administration

Fox News cheers Obama's failures and criticizes his success

Fox "News" routinely makes factual errors that they never correct

Fox "News" is not a news organization

btw - isn't the point of your thread the officials from the administration are in fact going to be on Fox News?
LOL the same could be said for all the shit ogranizations obama and his officials go on with the one exception of they criticize him...so what youre saying is they dont go on there b/c FOX criticizes the administration? thats my point

they said they will, we will see i think its like iran buying time

did you disagree with me about that too straw?, guess what they refused to send their uranium to be inspected...who knew?  ;)
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 22, 2009, 09:40:26 AM
just out...when gibbs was asked "what the difference was between FOX and MSNBC, ABC, UNIVISION" he replied "lets watch around 9 oclock tonight and we can make our decision"

LOL does MSNBC and ABC not run opinion based programming at 9?

hmmmm so what the administration is saying they dont think FOX is a news outlet b/c they dont like what the administration is doing?

i wonder what they think of the citizens who dont like what the administration is doing perhaps we wont be considered citizens next  ::)
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 22, 2009, 09:44:34 AM
just out...when gibbs was asked "what the difference was between FOX and MSNBC, ABC, UNIVISION" he replied "lets watch around 9 oclock tonight and we can make our decision"

LOL does MSNBC and ABC not run opinion based programming at 9?

hmmmm so what the administration is saying they dont think FOX is a news outlet b/c they dont like what the administration is doing?

i wonder what they think of the citizens who dont like what the administration is doing perhaps we wont be considered citizens next  ::)

Go watch that Video "Fall of the Republic" Clip 11-14.

Cap & Trade is exposed for the EVIL I have said it is.

This is why this admn is trying to silence everyone.  They dont want their MARXIST REVOLUTION exposed.
 
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Straw Man on October 22, 2009, 09:46:09 AM
LOL the same could be said for all the shit ogranizations obama and his officials go on with the one exception of they criticize him...so what youre saying is they dont go on there b/c FOX criticizes the administration? thats my point

they said they will, we will see i think its like iran buying time

did you disagree with me about that too straw?, guess what they refused to send their uranium to be inspected...who knew?  ;)

Fox doesn't just criticize Obama - they completely shit on everything he does and they lie on a daily basis.

This is a old and boring argument and I've already lost interest
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 22, 2009, 09:51:05 AM
Fox doesn't just criticize Obama - they completely shit on everything he does and they lie on a daily basis.

This is a old and boring argument and I've already lost interest

When he stops acting like a communist dictator maybe they will stop. 
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 22, 2009, 10:00:53 AM
Fox doesn't just criticize Obama - they completely shit on everything he does and they lie on a daily basis.

This is a old and boring argument and I've already lost interest
lol youve lost the arguement not interest straw

MSNBC, CNN, ABC do the same shit as FOX its the same thing from the other side bro yet they go on those networks dont they?

Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 22, 2009, 10:02:18 AM
lol youve lost the arguement not interest straw

MSNBC, CNN, ABC do the same shit as FOX its the same thing from the other side bro yet they go on those networks dont they?



Every other network shit on Bush over evertything Straw - were those not news networks too? 
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Straw Man on October 22, 2009, 10:06:52 AM
lol youve lost the arguement not interest straw

MSNBC, CNN, ABC do the same shit as FOX its the same thing from the other side bro yet they go on those networks dont they?

I've lost interest because this debate has been hashed out ad nauseum for the last couple of years.

people like you are oblivious to the lie machine at Fox or, at times when you admit it you then try to paint all other networks with the same brush.

is there any chance that any additional info will change your mind?

should I waste my valuable time trying to convince a knob on a message board?

I don't see the value to me to invest more time

find a new topic and maybe I'll be interested
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 22, 2009, 10:12:48 AM
I've lost interest because this debate has been hashed out ad nauseum for the last couple of years.

people like you are oblivious to the lie machine at Fox or, at times when you admit it you then try to paint all other networks with the same brush.

is there any chance that any additional info will change your mind?

should I waste my valuable time trying to convince a knob on a message board?

I don't see the value to me to invest more time

find a new topic and maybe I'll be interested
LOL not at all straw youre so off its not even funny.

I see that FOX news does spin shit even lie from time to time, what I also see and what you dont b/c of your bias is that MSNBC, CNN, and ABC does the same shit...

you only point to fox but you overlook the faults of those you hold up.

be objective straw not subjective.
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Straw Man on October 22, 2009, 10:16:25 AM
LOL not at all straw youre so off its not even funny.

I see that FOX news does spin shit even lie from time to time, what I also see and what you dont b/c of your bias is that MSNBC, CNN, and ABC does the same shit...

you only point to fox but you overlook the faults of those you hold up.

be objective straw not subjective.


that's exactly what I said in my post - that you think both Fox and MSNBC lie all the time.

I don't agree.   

why should we waste each others time any further.

my time is valuable
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: George Whorewell on October 22, 2009, 11:30:25 AM
LMAOOOOOO

Yes- clearly your time is valuable... which is why you just spent three pages embarassing yourself with circular logic and meaningless distinctions. I am sure you have plenty of other threads to derail with mind numbing stupidity.

A thousand pardons "Straw Man"  ::)
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 22, 2009, 01:08:13 PM
LMAOOOOOO

Yes- clearly your time is valuable... which is why you just spent three pages embarassing yourself with circular logic and meaningless distinctions. I am sure you have plenty of other threads to derail with mind numbing stupidity.

A thousand pardons "Straw Man"  ::)
hahhahhhaaaa

yes yes lets all leave straw alone now his time is very valuable  ;)
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Straw Man on October 22, 2009, 06:20:48 PM
hahhahhhaaaa

yes yes lets all leave straw alone now his time is very valuable  ;)

my time during the work day is valuable.  

Too bad for you if yours is not
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: tonymctones on October 22, 2009, 09:33:25 PM
my time during the work day is valuable.  

Too bad for you if yours is not
LOL mine is valuable as well i just dont go around touting it on a internet bodybuilding forum like your some sort of mogal...LOL hahahahhaha must be very valuable for you to tear yourself away and post here with the commoners... ;) ;D hahhhhahhhahahha
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: grab an umbrella on October 22, 2009, 10:08:16 PM
So the "other" networks spread lies about Rush (I don't care for the man) but they are fair and balanced and never lie?
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Straw Man on October 23, 2009, 08:54:15 AM
LOL mine is valuable as well i just dont go around touting it on a internet bodybuilding forum like your some sort of mogal...LOL hahahahhaha must be very valuable for you to tear yourself away and post here with the commoners... ;) ;D hahhhhahhhahahha

I could pump gas for a living and that would be a more valuable use of my time than trying to have a conversation with someone with the intelligence of a door knob
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: George Whorewell on October 23, 2009, 08:57:17 AM
Straw we agree with you.

Which is why we all think you should stop posting here-- as it is a waste of our valuable time.
Title: Re: Administration officials will appear on fox...
Post by: Straw Man on October 23, 2009, 10:58:46 AM
Straw we agree with you.

Which is why we all think you should stop posting here-- as it is a waste of our valuable time.

I read and post here solely for my own entertainment

If I'm working from home during the day then I might check in

If I have to go the office then I don't look at anything online other than bloomberg and a few other financial sites.