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it tries to give hope to those who lost all hope so that they can get on with there lives after tragedies.
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it means that you believe that one day Jesus will come down to earth in a spaceship and kill all the non-believers which will be about 4.5 billion or so and the rest will life a life of luxury in heaven.
It also means that you hate fags, people of colour and bomb abortion clinics.
It really is a religion of peace :-\
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I have been meeting Jehova's witnesses for a while now, they are trying to convert me. They are fucking dumb. They can't understand the simplest logic in my arguments. ::) Or they just block it. ::)
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have you sent them any of your Branch stories?
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I have been meeting Jehova's witnesses for a while now, they are trying to convert me. They are fucking dumb. They can't understand the simplest logic in my arguments. ::) Or they just block it. ::)
Maybe it's you?
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I should post the Tshirthell shirt for this
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they are not bad people, only misinformed
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It makes sluts not feel so bad for letting guys ride a train on them ;D
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I have been meeting Jehova's witnesses for a while now, they are trying to convert me. They are fucking dumb. They can't understand the simplest logic in my arguments. ::) Or they just block it. ::)
That goes for all religions dude...
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wonderful! 8)
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well.. i think i know what it means, and i could tell you.
But since you have scanned the magazine in here i suggest
you open it, read it and make your own decision on the subject
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That goes for all religions dude...
Yeah I know. But this is like my only time I have talked to religious people so it's kinda special for me. ;D
One good one was our discussion about free will.
Me: I don't know, I don't think we have free will, it's mostly illusion, we make our choises based on our experiences and things we are born with. There is no "greater thing" guiding us, only the already set parameters we do our things based on.
The idiot: But you can close your eyes when you are driving in a heavy traffic, don't you?
Me: Yeah, but how does that...
The idiot: So you can make choises.
Me: Yeah, but again, how does that refute anything?
The idiot: We can make choises based on our free will. If you read the Bible, this comes clear.
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I won't listen to that. Hell March 1 all the way.
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I won't listen to that. Hell March 1 all the way.
they both are awesome.
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they are not bad people, only misinformed
BS !!! I have many experiences that refute that statement and it crossed over several Kingdom Halls so it wasn't some isolated case.
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I'll feel born again this morning about 3:00am ;)
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jehwit: Is masturbation a sin? Sincere question.
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Jehovah witnesses do not believe in the true Jesus of the Bible. Their version of Jesus has different characteristics and qualities of the true Jesus.
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Jehovah witnesses do not believe in the true Jesus of the Bible. Their version of Jesus has different characteristics and qualities of the true Jesus.
How is that? I think their version is the most correct one. If you read the Bible it's quite clear Jesus is not God...
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If you read the Bible it's quite clear Jesus is not God...
you are going to hell according to christians. you have not been born again.
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you are going to hell according to christians. you have not been born again.
Oh no. ::) I will never believe that crap. Everything I say about the Bible is my interperation of mythology.
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Oh no. ::) I will never believe that crap. Everything I say about the Bible is my interperation of mythology.
Enjoy your time now.. You could be doing the backstroke in the lake of fire at any moment.
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Enjoy your time now.. You could be doing the backstroke in the lake of fire at any moment.
;D
I just learned god hates killing. Then why does he want to kill all the homosexuals, adulterers, liars, thieves etc. ;D ;D ;D
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I just learned god hates killing. Then why does he want to kill all the homosexuals, adulterers, liars, thieves etc. ;D ;D ;D
I don’t think god gives a fuck.. one way or the other. There tends to be a natural order to things.. Go against that, nature takes its course.
You know right from wrong.. all by yourself.
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It means you're a fucktard Xtian who believes in an invisible Sky-Daddy. ::)
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while searching for a picture of "Jesus" ::), i came upon a popular mechanics article. upon reading the first 4 comments in regard to what jesus really looked like i found this gem:
151. RE: Real Face Of Jesus: December 2002 Cover Story
He doesn't look like this. He's about 5f6in tall, stocky not scrawny build. Exceptional health. I have seen him with his hair tied back. A fair bit of body and facial hair, a mistache. The sandals he is said to have worn are accurate. He is a serious person with olive skin and very black eyes centred under a generous forehead and there are signs of piercing intelligence and urgency in his look. I believe since he started to appear to me that he wants to change the scriptures. The message i have received from him says that they are false. I'm not even religous, I'm spiritual and didn't ask for this revelation, but I've been chosen. I've often thought i must be crazy and hallucinating, and have tried health professionals. They say in a Jungian psychology way that he represents an archetype and that it is common for many people to have seen him over the years. I'm just one of them, but he won't go away, and I don't understand why he has appeared to me at this time. I think he has a message to deliver...
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He doesn't look like this. He's about 5f6in tall, stocky not scrawny build. Exceptional health. I have seen him with his hair tied back. A fair bit of body and facial hair, a mistache. The sandals he is said to have worn are accurate. He is a serious person with olive skin and very black eyes centred under a generous forehead and there are signs of piercing intelligence and urgency in his look. I believe since he started to appear to me that he wants to change the scriptures. The message i have received from him says that they are false. I'm not even religous, I'm spiritual and didn't ask for this revelation, but I've been chosen. I've often thought i must be crazy and hallucinating, and have tried health professionals. They say in a Jungian psychology way that he represents an archetype and that it is common for many people to have seen him over the years. I'm just one of them, but he won't go away, and I don't understand why he has appeared to me at this time. I think he has a message to deliver...
This poor bastard is obviously in the clutches of satan himself. Good god.
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This poor bastard is obviously in the clutches of satan himself. Good god.
or meth
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Jehovah witnesses do not believe in the true Jesus of the Bible. Their version of Jesus has different characteristics and qualities of the true Jesus.
HAHAHAHA! "true" Jesus? ::)
I wonder if there's a real Santa Claus?
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to be fair, it would be interesting to know how many people commenting here have actually read through the ENTIRE bible. lots of experts, but i would guess not many educated experts posting in this thread. just an observation on judging a matter fairly before speaking.
I've read the holy fucking bible.. king james version.
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ENTIRE bible
from genesis to revelation.. every chapter, each verse. I based this painting on a passage taken from revelation…
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yes james....got anything a bit cheerier? lol
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from genesis to revelation.. every chapter, each verse. I based this painting on a passage taken from revelation…
Awesome dude!
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Awesome dude!
8)
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to be fair, it would be interesting to know how many people commenting here have actually read through the ENTIRE bible. lots of experts, but i would guess not many educated experts posting in this thread. just an observation on judging a matter fairly before speaking.
The 2 witnesses I know, have NOT read the entire Bible, they've had about 15 years to do it. ::)
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How is that? I think their version is the most correct one. If you read the Bible it's quite clear Jesus is not God...
Jesus is God
Jesus refered to Himself as "I AM" (Old testament reference to The Father)
Jesus said "if you've seen Me you've seen the Father", and "The Father and I are one"
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jehwit: Is masturbation a sin? Sincere question.
lust is a sin yes. Jesus paid for that sin. Through His Death, Jesus paid the penalty for every sin. If you put your faith in him. Every sin you have committed or will ever commit in the future, is wiped out by His Blood. He paid the price so you don't have to. He took your sin, and you take His righteousness.
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I don’t think god gives a fuck.. one way or the other. There tends to be a natural order to things.. Go against that, nature takes its course.
You know right from wrong.. all by yourself.
God loves these people. He despises the sins they commit.
They will all go to heaven if the put their faith in Jesus (Jesus has already died to remit their sins)
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God loves these people. He despises the sins they commit.
They will all go to heaven if the put their faith in Jesus (Jesus has already died to remit their sins)
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lust is a sin yes. Jesus paid for that sin. Through His Death, Jesus paid the penalty for every sin. If you put your faith in him. Every sin you have committed or will ever commit in the future, is wiped out by His Blood. He paid the price so you don't have to. He took your sin, and you take His righteousness.
Makes sense. ::)
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it means that you believe that one day Jesus will come down to earth in a spaceship and kill all the non-believers which will be about 4.5 billion or so and the rest will life a life of luxury in heaven.
It also means that you hate fags, people of colour and bomb abortion clinics.
It really is a religion of peace :-\
Very well put. Me; raised Catholic and having a hard time buying into Christianity today. The bible is an old book how could the men who have written it be any more than storytellers? I don't see how this book can hold so much credence, when there are other big religions who also have the "true book" of their own?
Also I don't see how "Jesus" or God as he is thought by Christians, dying on the cross could wipe out the sins of humanity for eternity? It's just one life, why does that give everyone free reign to do what they want and then repent, have faith in Jesus and all is forgiven? It makes no sense at all. A murder and rapist can say "I believe in Jesus and have faith in the lord" and all is OK with God? This is ludicrous and was dreamed up to give people who are guilt ridden hope they will be accepted into "heaven"
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Very well put. Me; raised Catholic and having a hard time buying into Christianity today. The bible is an old book how could the men who have written it be any more than storytellers? I don't see how this book can hold so much credence, when there are other big religions who also have the "true book" of their own?
Also I don't see how "Jesus" or God as he is thought by Christians, dying on the cross could wipe out the sins of humanity for eternity? It's just one life, why does that give everyone free reign to do what they want and then repent, have faith in Jesus and all is forgiven? It makes no sense at all. A murder and rapist can say "I believe in Jesus and have faith in the lord" and all is OK with God? This is ludicrous and was dreamed up to give people who are guilt ridden hope they will be accepted into "heaven"
A human life couldn't bare are the sin ever committed.
But a man who was also God could, and did, bare all our sins
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we should all strive to be more Christ-like
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to be fair, it would be interesting to know how many people commenting here have actually read through the ENTIRE bible. lots of experts, but i would guess not many educated experts posting in this thread. just an observation on judging a matter fairly before speaking.
philosophy and religion degree....
read the bible, as well as many other religious scrolls/ texts/ mantras...what have you...
this is why im an athiest. i dont deny anyones belief in god/ jesus/ buddha...or anything else for that matter. it does bother me when they try to apply it to me. jesus didnt die for my sins.......trust me.
this is also why i try not to involve myself in religious arguments around here (or anywhere else). to much drama involved.
i believe that everyone is entitled to their beliefs....however, im from the free will camp....so i try to keep to myself as to not offend (too much)
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A human life couldn't bare are the sin ever committed.
But a man who was also God could, and did, bare all our sins
Man was perfect when God made him, but by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, and so death passed upon all men.
Jesus is God in human flesh. He took on the form of a man, and lived a life without sin (he did what adam couldnt do). The death of this one innocent man, was a sacrifice for the whole world. just as sin passed upon all through one, life passed upon all through one, and this life is in Jesus.
In order to receive this life though, you must believe that Jesus died and rose again to pay for your sins, and trust him to forgive them. it is a one time thing this "being born again". just as you are born into your human family once, you can only be born into God's family once. those who accept him are "born again".
God doesnt want anyone to goto hell...this is shown by his death on hte cross. we rightly all deserve it, but God has made a way of escape for us because he cares. BUT, lets say a man is on death row, and the judge says taht another man is willing to take his place so that he might live, but the man on death row refuses, then that man will pay for his own crime (sins). Jesus is willing to be our substitute, but a person has to want for him to take their place.
the most famous verse in the bible still applies today: John 3:16 - For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
God stands by an patiently offers life while people mock and ridicule. People love their sin mroe than they love God, and they dont want to have anything to do with Him for fear that they might have to feel guilty or part ways with that sin that they love so much.
God needing a sacrifice to pay for this sin doesn't make any sense. He's omnipotent, why not simply forgive Man?
I don't really want an answer to this. Little about religion makes sense or can be reasoned about. It's a holy mystery I guess. Christians can't even agree amongst themselves how to interpret the bible. Too bad Jesus can't come down and set things straight. How's the average man supposed to know how to serve God? So many ways, so many religions... none make much sense.
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God needing a sacrifice to pay for this sin doesn't make any sense. He's omnipotent, why not simply forgive Man?
sin requires a blood sacrifice to cover it.
Jesus was that sacrifice. Jesus blood not only covered it, His blood removed the FACT of sin in the spirit of anyone that puts their faith in Him.
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A human life couldn't bare are the sin ever committed.
But a man who was also God could, and did, bare all our sins
wow thx for doing something we never asked for and now for giving this so called gift that no one asked for we are all suppose to worhship his ass? Wow talk about a egomaniac ;D
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Very well put. Me; raised Catholic and having a hard time buying into Christianity today. The bible is an old book how could the men who have written it be any more than storytellers? I don't see how this book can hold so much credence, when there are other big religions who also have the "true book" of their own?
Also I don't see how "Jesus" or God as he is thought by Christians, dying on the cross could wipe out the sins of humanity for eternity? It's just one life, why does that give everyone free reign to do what they want and then repent, have faith in Jesus and all is forgiven? It makes no sense at all. A murder and rapist can say "I believe in Jesus and have faith in the lord" and all is OK with God? This is ludicrous and was dreamed up to give people who are guilt ridden hope they will be accepted into "heaven"
x2 a deep thinker
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sin requires a blood sacrifice to cover it.
Jesus was that sacrifice. Jesus blood not only covered it, His blood removed the FACT of sin in the spirit of anyone that puts their faith in Him.
Doesn't make any sense sorry. Especially if Jesus = god.
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Doesn't make any sense sorry. Especially if Jesus = god.
a man couldn't bare the punishment for every sin committed.....so God worked salvation Himself!
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a man couldn't bare the punishment for every sin committed.....so God worked salvation Himself!
your so deep in this bullshit you don't even know it, you are making no logical sense. Did you graduate college?
Try not indoctrinating yourself with this crap for 6 months, you will see the world less wacky dude.
jt
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my faith in God is innate and irrepressible
I always assumed that was true of everybody
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means you can do whatever shit you want 24/7 365 as long as you believe jesus is the son of God u get into heaven. you dont forget it. hindu, buddist, baptist, muslim whatever....no jesus? no heaven. aint that some terrorist shit?
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all religions are roads to God
some are just more direct and less hazardous than others
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Why would any civilized culture believe in cunsuming the blood and body of their savior?
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Why would any civilized culture believe in cunsuming the blood and body of their savior?
cult
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My point exactly. It would be amazing what the world would believe in if documented text of some savior were found before jesus.
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your so deep in this bullshit you don't even know it, you are making no logical sense. Did you graduate college?
Try not indoctrinating yourself with this crap for 6 months, you will see the world less wacky dude.
jt
I graduated college. Took some fairly difficult classes too. Biology 1 and 2, Genetics, anatomy and physiology 1&2, chemistry 1&2, organic chemistry, microbiology....all with labs
and yes I believe Jesus stepped into this world (that he made) and died for you and me...and eveyone else
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means you can do whatever shit you want 24/7 365 as long as you believe jesus is the son of God u get into heaven. you dont forget it. hindu, buddist, baptist, muslim whatever....no jesus? no heaven. aint that some terrorist shit?
a Christian does not enjoy sin in their spirit. A Christian that sins is usually a miserable person.
When a Christian goes to heaven.....they receive extra rewards...or lose rewards based on their obedience (but they are still saved and in heaven for ever)
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Just because no one talks about Zeus anymore, doesn't mean he doesn't exist.
He's reading this board.
You're all going to Hell.
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OMFG, is this debate still going on?? Jebus Christ on a crutch, people... your invisible sky-daddy is just like Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy. I seriously can't figure out why anyone with a working brain would believe this nonsense. ::)
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a Christian does not enjoy sin in their spirit. A Christian that sins is usually a miserable person.
When a Christian goes to heaven.....they receive extra rewards...or lose rewards based on their obedience (but they are still saved and in heaven for ever)
This sounds crazy!! Jesus was a sinner.
Why is your Christian religion based in fear? Why is so much of this all powerfull religion based here on earth when there is a whole universe out there? I think Christianity also expouses that there is only life on earth. A planet about as big as a grain of sand on all the beaches in this world compared to the size of the universe?
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Hell was created to have a yang to the yin of going to heaven. The sad fact is the Bible has been rewritten so many times to the interest of those in power at the time. Damn, you guys need to look at the past of how "christian believes" have retarded the human race. I mean hell, the "church" wants to argue with anyone that proves the idea of evolution. When it is a known fact. I am going to start my own religion and dare the superior power to kill me dead with the appointed angel of death or whomever they decide that job fit for...
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This sounds crazy!! Jesus was a sinner.
Why is your Christian religion based in fear? Why is so much of this all powerfull religion based here on earth when there is a whole universe out there? I think Christianity also expouses that there is only life on earth. A planet about as big as a grain of sand on all the beaches in this world compared to the size of the universe?
x2 without fear Christianity would die.
jt
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x2 without fear Christianity would die.
jt
christianty is based on faith and love, not fear
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Just because no one talks about Zeus anymore, doesn't mean he doesn't exist.
He's reading this board.
You're all going to Hell.
YEEEEEE HAAAAW!!!!!
if i believed in it, thats where id want to be anyway. way more fun than heaven ::) ::) LOL
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I seriously can't figure out why anyone with a working brain would believe this nonsense. ::)
People are weak, scared and clueless. They need something to believe in.. because they don’t believe in themselves. Fools who need to follow.. desperate for some type of understanding.. so desperate they are willing to believe god is communicating through the written word of men.
Sheep. Religion is for the lost.
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christianty is based on faith and love, not fear
sure keep telling yourself that, if they didn't traumatize people with telling them after they die they will burn eternally in hell for not being a Christian they would get no converts ;)
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we should all strive to be more Christ-like
yes...we need more jewish carpenters
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yes...we need more jewish carpenters
Perhaps Yaroni will indulge us and take up a new career? :D
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Perhaps Yaroni will indulge us and take up a new career? :D
its a lost trade, kind of like the lost ideal that is attached to it