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A shooting at Fort Hood prompted the base and nearby schools to order a lockdown, according to a report on MSNBC.
The news station said seven people were killed and 12 wounded. The station said there were two suspects in the shootings.
KCEN-TV in Central Texas reported that one person was in custody and one was still at large. It quoted a source as saying that shooter has a high-powered rifle and is aiming to kill.
Killeen ISD says all Fort Hood schools are on lockdown.
At least seven people are dead and 12 wounded in a shooting at Fort Hood in Texas, the base's public affairs office told NBC News on Thursday.
The official would not give his name nor additional details. It was unknown whether victims are soldiers or civilians. One gunman was reportedly in custody and another was on the loose, NBC News said. A third shooter may be involved, according to NBC News affiliate KCEN, which said the person had opened fire on the SWAT team at the base.
KCEN reported that a policeman was among those shot.
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oh my god. what a tragedy. prayers with the families of the victims.
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The Hood website is down and we're not getting anything that the media doesn't have. I hope they can quickly ID these folks so we know if its a derangement or an attack. I just got back from the gym...half day etc, I'd kinda like to know if they're gonna shut us down as well. They're saying as many as 30 wounded.
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The Hood website is down and we're not getting anything that the media doesn't have. I hope they can quickly ID these folks so we know if its a derangement or an attack. I just got back from the gym...half day etc, I'd kinda like to know if they're gonna shut us down as well. They're saying as many as 30 wounded.
9 dead, over 30 wounded. 2 shooters.
Seems like two shooters is not really a terrorist attack. Maybe zetas?
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wow. :(
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Supposedly one of the suspects in custody is a military officer with an "arabic sounding name" according to MSNBC.....sad......awful .
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12 dead now?
shit.
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12 dead now?
shit.
Yeah.....12 dead, 31 wounded. 1 suspect is dead, 2 in custody........this type of stuff tears my heart out........
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Its gonna be a bit before they get all the details. First reports are always wrong. We're not doing anything special here and it seems that nobody else, across the Army is either. If however the "arab sounding name thing" turns out to be anything...then its gonna be a painful couple of weeks. We just had an Airman get wacked in Juarez strip joint..where he wasn't supposed to be. We're banned from crossing into Juarez.
Unreal....this guy had two hand guns..he had to reload. It appears he had a shoot out with the Post Police. Most military posts have a combination of MP's and contracted police who have taken over most of the day to day "street" duties. They're mostly retired or ex military police, in some cases they're actual Federal police and others they're a contracted security company such as Wachenhut or Agesis.
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Its gonna be a bit before they get all the details. First reports are always wrong. We're not doing anything special here and it seems that nobody else, across the Army is either. If however the "arab sounding name thing" turns out to be anything...then its gonna be a painful couple of weeks. We just had an Airman get wacked in Juarez strip joint..where he wasn't supposed to be. We're banned from crossing into Juarez.
Unreal....this guy had two hand guns..he had to reload. It appears he had a shoot out with the Post Police. Most military posts have a combination of MP's and contracted police who have taken over most of the day to day "street" duties. They're mostly retired or ex military police, in some cases they're actual Federal police and others they're a contracted security company such as Wachenhut or Agesis.
hh6, they are now reporting that their were shootings at a base theatre too......wow.......I passed thru Hood and it's surreal to see it on TV in this context...
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hh6, they are now reporting that their were shootings at a base theatre too......wow.......I passed thru Hood and it's surreal to see it on TV in this context...
If people are so miserable, why cant they just kill themselves. Why do they have to take others down with them?
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Seems like two shooters is not really a terrorist attack.
What # of shooters could move it from just a shooting, to a terror attack?
I thought a terror attack was when it was politically motivated. hard to define it. Those 2 pricks in DC sniping terrorized the nation for weeks. And Mcveigh?
I'm guessing it ends up being 1 shooter, and the others were just people who drew their weapon in the confusion and were taken into custody on precaution by the police.
What a sad story.
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What # of shooters could move it from just a shooting, to a terror attack?
I thought a terror attack was when it was politically motivated. hard to define it. Those 2 pricks in DC sniping terrorized the nation for weeks. And Mcveigh?
I'm guessing it ends up being 1 shooter, and the others were just people who drew their weapon in the confusion and were taken into custody on precaution by the police.
What a sad story.
I may have to be corrected.
Suspected Gunman Is Identified as Major Malik Nadal Hasan
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If people are so miserable, why cant they just kill themselves. Why do they have to take others down with them?
I know, I never understand that. Although it's very preliminary, if it was a 3 people, it would be more likely it was a planned attack with some type of agenda.
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I may have to be corrected.
Suspected Gunman Is Identified as Major Malik Nadal Hasan
333, did you hear that on MSNBC?
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333, did you hear that on MSNBC?
ABC News.
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/soldiers-killed-fort-hood-shooting/story?id=9007938
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ABC News.
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/soldiers-killed-fort-hood-shooting/story?id=9007938
Thanks for the link
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You know people are always bashing Fox news, but they aren't willing to release the name on the air.
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damn,
He didn't want to go to war,so he started his own.
Malik nadal Hasan was his name, converted to Islam....(speculation)
sandra
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Just heard that on Fox as well...I sorta want this to play out before jumping to conclusions. Work should be interesting tomorrow.
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Lead shooter from Virginia ... had converted to
Islam...... Major Malik Nadal Hasan.
If that turns out to be true... we need to quit the politically correct CRAP
and stop putting Muslims in secure positions in our military!!!
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This just further proves the point that Islam is in a league of its own when it comes to violence.
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Lead shooter from Virginia ... had converted to
Islam...... Major Malik Nadal Hasan.
If that turns out to be true... we need to quit the politically correct CRAP
and stop putting Muslims in secure positions in our military!!!
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I love how Barry gives a press conference about this tragedy and has to repeatedly spout off about his respect for the men and women in uniform over and over like he's campaigning again.
Apparently the piece of excrement that converted to Islam and murdered a dozen people didn't hear Obama's speech to the Muslim world. I don't think he accepted Obama's apology. ::)
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Lead shooter from Virginia ... had converted to
Islam...... Major Malik Nadal Hasan.
If that turns out to be true... we need to quit the politically correct CRAP
and stop putting Muslims in secure positions in our military!!!
Funny..one of my soldiers just said the same thing to me...They just allowed a Doctor a sikh and another, a muslim..both soldiers to keep their beards and wear the turban, while in uniform. They're both doctors but u don't find Jews wearing yalmuka's in uniform. We seem to lead the way in PC crap. We become an experiment for all the social morons..whether its safety or banning tobacco and porn. I leave for Iraq in two weeks and we just found out that when we get on our buses from the Kuwait AP to our base...we have to wear golf shirts and take our ACU tops off so we don't offend the Kuwaiti's. This is Dept of State at its best!!
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Not that I want to speculate but if this guy, who was a muslim and didn't want to deploy had help...which they are saying at this point, he must have gotten his help either from other uniformed muslims or those off post.
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And they're saying the guy was a shrink.....go ahead defend this guy, i know somebody will.
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Not that I want to speculate but if this guy, who was a muslim and didn't want to deploy had help...which they are saying at this point, he must have gotten his help either from other uniformed muslims or those off post.
Agree. What I don't get about these worthless fucks, is that they know the region of the world that is the hottest right now, so if you don't agree or want to fight, get the fuck out.....pull a Muhammad Ali....hell, move to Iraq and fight along side your brothers instead of being a coward and murdering fellow soldiers.
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There are alot of guys who get their medical loans repaid by Uncle Sam, so they come in. We need Vets, Dentists and Docs. They get automatic appoints to Captain or 03..not a navy captain. Our lawyers get the same. The Army does the same with Chaplains...I think they come in as 1Lts and Physicians assistants get either Warrant 2 or 1LT.
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Here's our guy...
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This just further proves the point that Islam is in a league of its own when it comes to violence.
true
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This is his ORB or Officer Record brief...the guys at Hood pulled it and sent to one of the milblogs. Notice NO DEPLOYMENT and only one duty station prior to FT Hood.
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Going with HH6's doc...this guy had no deployments to Iraq and only one other post? So he has pretty much been at Fort Hood for a very long time. Going deeper, with the new found info this guy isn't the poster child for multi-deployment, extended tour PTSD that the media was probably frothing at the mouth to portray the military as.
Was he being deployed somewhere, though? If so, to which theater and in what capacity? Combat or desk job?
This outburst and attack, had to have outside help/planning etc. Info is shallow and slim but he doesn't fit the profile for wackjob or trigger happy mass murderer. He is educated and hasn't been deployed.
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Fucking Chris Matthews makes me want to vomit.
Of course, Fox has a guy on who actually worked with the animal who carried out this attack. Big shock= He held anti American views and made several comments that Muslims around the world should rise up against the American "aggressors".
Switching back, Matthews is trying to rationalize this barbaric act by highlighting how the scumbags Arab sounding last name may have subjected him to ridicule by his fellow soldiers and therefore may have caused him to snap. ::)
He later goes on to suggest that the guy may have been deployed multiple times and that may have contributed to this violent outburst.
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Fucking Chris Matthews makes me want to vomit.
Of course, Fox has a guy on who actually worked with the animal who carried out this attack. Big shock= He held anti American views and made several comments that Muslims around the world should rise up against the American "aggressors".
Switching back, Matthews is trying to rationalize this barbaric act by highlighting how the scumbags Arab sounding last name may have subjected him to ridicule by his fellow soldiers and therefore may have caused him to snap. ::)
He later goes on to suggest that the guy may have been deployed multiple times and that may have contributed to this violent outburst.
Matthews is a plastic faced fag.
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I just heard on Fox that this guy has always been Muslim according to the guys cousin who is on TV now-- ( big shock)
His cousin claims that being harrassed by his fellow soldiers led to the murder of 12 innocent unarmed people and the wounding of 30+ others.
Maybe Obama can issue an apology on behalf of the military to his family for the unconscionable abuse he took from his colleagues. ::)
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They have his cousin on...they said he didn't want to deploy because he's heard so many bad stories. He is a natural born citizen. I guess he enlisted out of High School but never deployed etc..sorta weird. He then went to school etc..and he would never have to kick doors when he to deployed which he was getting ready to do. I wonder if he was headed up to us. This guy would never leave the fob.
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If ur gonna say shit against the US then u might hear something. This guy was a Major..I'm a Major..U generally don't get harrassed. This guy was not a private.
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Funny..one of my soldiers just said the same thing to me...They just allowed a Doctor a sikh and another, a muslim..both soldiers to keep their beards and wear the turban, while in uniform. They're both doctors but u don't find Jews wearing yalmuka's in uniform. We seem to lead the way in PC crap. We become an experiment for all the social morons..whether its safety or banning tobacco and porn. I leave for Iraq in two weeks and we just found out that when we get on our buses from the Kuwait AP to our base...we have to wear golf shirts and take our ACU tops off so we don't offend the Kuwaiti's. This is Dept of State at its best!!
In the israeli army many do wear yarmulkas and keep their beards and long sideburns
BTW my condolences to the troops and to the families over in the USA, a terrible tragedy.
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"the shooter made several anti-American, pro-Muslim/jihad-like statements about Muslims need to rise up against the Western agressors and engage in violent attacks"
Islam is an intolerant political ideology akin to Stalinism , disguised as religion.
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In the israeli army many do wear yarmulkas and keep their beards and long sideburns
BTW my condolences to the troops and to the families over in the USA, a terrible tragedy.
Yeah its funny but they do...when ur surrounded by nuts u take everybody and i would love to grow a big bushy beard while I'm in Iraq but the conventional army fowns on that. The only time u see the very few Rabbi's we have, wear em is when they are conducting services.
And thanks UK...
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1 shooter, this guy did it all from what we know now. The other two people taken in custody were on the scene and were asked questions. They were not shooters.
This major is muslim and did not want to be deployed, it is reported he strongly disagreed with the war in Iraq. He was notified of his pending employment. There was a colonel on Fox minutes ago talking about this guy being a muslim sympathizer and he got into verbal confrontations with other soldiers after his comments in several situations. Sen Huchinson said it is reported the major shot several people he knew, possibly targeting them. His cousin (interviewed on Fox said he was being harassed but he got off the phone abruptly, which was odd). Some of the colonel's comments about what Hassan had reportedly said was very distrubing and pro-muslim/anti-American.
The killer worked at Walter Reid hospital for most of his career as a psychiatrist but was recently transferred to Fort Hood. It may be that this guy snapped because he got deployment notice. He had a recent poor performance evaluation. I hope more people that worked with the killer come forward to share more background info.
The only odd thing is that some reports say they heard more than 1 set of gun shots (the shooter had 2 handguns). I'm sure we'll hear more.
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They have his cousin on...they said he didn't want to deploy because he's heard so many bad stories. He is a natural born citizen. I guess he enlisted out of High School but never deployed etc..sorta weird. He then went to school etc..and he would never have to kick doors when he to deployed which he was getting ready to do. I wonder if he was headed up to us. This guy would never leave the fob.
The guy is Dr. , correct, meaning PhD? So would that rule out enlisting after HS, becuase he's never been deployed. This mess is terrible, and since Im born and raised in Annapolis, this hits home as well, the stuff that goes down at Ft. Meade doesn't hit the papers
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I love how Barry gives a press conference about this tragedy and has to repeatedly spout off about his respect for the men and women in uniform over and over like he's campaigning again.
I don't know how Bush would have done anything diff. its what prez have to do when things like this happen.
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Kind of confusing...I wonder if this guy is a PhD psychologist (instead of psychiatrist, who is an MD). They said psychiatrist on the news so he would have been an MD.
Reports of him saying muslim's should rise up against American soldiers who are over there. WTF?!?!?!
Lockdown just lifted at Ft. Hood. It seems this guy acted alone so far.
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Yeah..they said he got into it with somebody while in line for the SRP. When we SRP it means its a sorta records and medical scrub. I went last week. U do ur Will, figure ur insurance dispersments, then they scrub ur medical records. If u need shots u get em..and they draw blood for HIV. They will find alot of dental issues and they get u into an appointment quickly. One of my folks got her wisdom teeth pulled during screening. Then u get ur "go" stamp and thats it. I find it hard to believe that some soldier randomly rolled up to him and gave him shit. Most joes don't talk to Officers.
Parker..his cousin said he did. I'll have to look at his ORB again. Meade's quiet, I've been there for a 4 month course...plus u have NSA and that place is a black hole. They take that security shit reallllllly seriously. One of my classmates drove down to the main gate thinking he could sorta look around..yeah they basically gang raped him and took his car apart.
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"the shooter made several anti-American, pro-Muslim/jihad-like statements about Muslims need to rise up against the Western agressors and engage in violent attacks"
He did this today, or weeks before?
if he said this shit before, he should have been booted from the service.
I still haven't turned on the TV news, probably won't until late toinght.
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I don't know....but they said he got into it with somebody at the SRP site. Thats alot of people to shoot with two pistols. How the hell do u reload and continue to shoot without getting tackeled. Then he wacked some of the cops.
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They take that security shit reallllllly seriously. One of my classmates drove down to the main gate thinking he could sorta look around..yeah they basically gang raped him and took his car apart.
I was just down at Ft. Belvoir and they're doing the same thing.
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Holy shit he's not dead!!!!
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"the shooter made several anti-American, pro-Muslim/jihad-like statements about Muslims need to rise up against the Western agressors and engage in violent attacks"
Islam is an intolerant political ideology akin to Stalinism , disguised as religion.
WOW...it is almost as bad as DEMOCRACY...another intolerant ideology akin to Stalinism, Hitlerism etc disguised as a political system that benefits the masses. Who Knew???
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A shooting at Fort Hood prompted the base and nearby schools to order a lockdown, according to a report on MSNBC.
The news station said seven people were killed and 12 wounded. The station said there were two suspects in the shootings.
KCEN-TV in Central Texas reported that one person was in custody and one was still at large. It quoted a source as saying that shooter has a high-powered rifle and is aiming to kill.
Killeen ISD says all Fort Hood schools are on lockdown.
At least seven people are dead and 12 wounded in a shooting at Fort Hood in Texas, the base's public affairs office told NBC News on Thursday.
The official would not give his name nor additional details. It was unknown whether victims are soldiers or civilians. One gunman was reportedly in custody and another was on the loose, NBC News said. A third shooter may be involved, according to NBC News affiliate KCEN, which said the person had opened fire on the SWAT team at the base.
KCEN reported that a policeman was among those shot.
Another MIND CONTROL experiment that went bad...
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Yeah ok douchbag.....can u not comment on adult threads, just stick to ur white hate, muslim apologist uberdouchbag CT crap.
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Great, he's alive. Now we can listen to all the Muslim apologists piss and moan while the taxpayers give him 3 square meals a day at Leavenworth for the next 20 years while he exhausts all of his appeals.
I hope he goes before a military court, but as I understand it, he has a right to opt for a civilian court if he chooses. Anyone know for sure?
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Man.... if any soldiers had to wait in line for an ambulance so this scumbag could get to the hospital first... ugh.
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shooter hated obama's decision to keep soldiers in iraq.
he posted all sort of anti-american shit on blogs... WTF is he still in uniform?
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We aren't immune to this shit either...PC crap is rampant. They did report it, plus this guy is part of Med service....thats a whole other issue.
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I heard one report that he had been censured in the past for proselytizing trying to convert people to Islam.
It appears there were many red flags that were missed by many along the way.
Not surprising that he was a psychiatrist. Most who enter into or study psychiatry often only do so with the understanding that they themselves are messed up and they're trying to simply understand themselves.
My condolences to the families concerned.
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This is horrible, my prayers will be with our fallen and wounded soldiers tonight and their families.
I dont even know what should be done with this shit bag if he survives nothing in my mind would be punishment enough for this man.
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I heard one report that he had been censured in the past for proselytizing trying to convert people to Islam.
It appears there were many red flags that were missed by many along the way.
Not surprising that he was a psychiatrist. Most who enter into or study psychiatry often only do so with the understanding that they themselves are messed up and they're trying to simply understand themselves.
My condolences to the families concerned.
actually a heard an interview with his cousin and he said he has always been a muslim and that the news media got it wrong...Im sure we will find out more in the upcoming days...
from what i can gather this wasnt about his mental state but more about him not wanting to go to iraq or afghanistan and not wanting to fight.
again this shit bag should be punished in the most extreme way imaginable.
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And they're saying the guy was a shrink.....go ahead defend this guy, i know somebody will.
??? really? I don't see how someone could and I sure hope nobody defends him. I'd be tempted to ban them depending on what was said.
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shooter hated obama's decision to keep soldiers in iraq.
he posted all sort of anti-american shit on blogs... WTF is he still in uniform?
That's one problem right there. They should have known about that and given him a dishonorable discharge.
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A shooting at Fort Hood prompted the base and nearby schools to order a lockdown, according to a report on MSNBC.
The news station said seven people were killed and 12 wounded. The station said there were two suspects in the shootings.
KCEN-TV in Central Texas reported that one person was in custody and one was still at large. It quoted a source as saying that shooter has a high-powered rifle and is aiming to kill.
Killeen ISD says all Fort Hood schools are on lockdown.
At least seven people are dead and 12 wounded in a shooting at Fort Hood in Texas, the base's public affairs office told NBC News on Thursday.
The official would not give his name nor additional details. It was unknown whether victims are soldiers or civilians. One gunman was reportedly in custody and another was on the loose, NBC News said. A third shooter may be involved, according to NBC News affiliate KCEN, which said the person had opened fire on the SWAT team at the base.
KCEN reported that a policeman was among those shot.
Really sad. :'(
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Before all is said and done it will be found out that this case IS NOT WHAT IT IS PLAYING OUT TO BE.
Already the scenario is changing changing changing with "new" information about this person coming to light from questionale sources. All of a sudden everyone "noticed" something about him...he was "spoken" to before, he had "problems" we noticed...WTF? Gimmie a break already. This is playing out like the Virginia Tech shooting which also had constantly changing scenarios, multiple shooters, casualties AND NO REASON FOR THE ASSAULT.
Now who are these nameless "federal agents" and nameless "law enforcement" how is this info printed with nothing VERIFIED, who are these people?. We have been told the man was shot dead...now he is alive; he was a lone shooter then there were three people involved; he supposedly hated the military yet has been in there for years; he was supposedly a Muslim convert yet the article says he was a LIFELONG MUSLIM.....If something as simple as making sure a suspect is correctly identified as dead or alive can not be properly done, then what should make me believe anything else that is written has been properly investigated or is even TRUTHFUL. Sounds like more scare tactics being used to keep the racist Arab/Islam/Muslim hate going in america...Not to mention to make sure the Patriot Act has no problem passing again.
BTW what is this guys REAL NAME? He is a white guy who converted to Islam, born and raised in america
Troubling portrait emerges of Fort Hood suspect
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AP – This photo from the Center for the Study of Traumatic Stress Web Site shows Nidal Malik Hasan. Military … By BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE, Associated Press Writer Brett J. Blackledge, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 37 mins ago
WASHINGTON – His name appears on radical Internet postings. A fellow officer says he fought his deployment to Iraq and argued with soldiers who supported U.S. wars. He required counseling as a medical student because of problems with patients.
There are many unknowns about Nidal Malik Hasan, the man authorities say is responsible for the worst mass killing on a U.S. military base. Most of all, his motive. But details of his life and mindset, emerging from official sources and personal acquaintances, are troubling.
For six years before reporting for duty at Fort Hood, Texas, in July, the 39-year-old Army major worked at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center pursuing his career in psychiatry, as an intern, a resident and, last year, a fellow in disaster and preventive psychiatry. He received his medical degree from the military's Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001.
While an intern at Walter Reed, Hasan had some "difficulties" that required counseling and extra supervision, said Dr. Thomas Grieger, who was the training director at the time.
Grieger said privacy laws prevented him from going into details but noted that the problems had to do with Hasan's interactions with patients. He recalled Hasan as a "mostly very quiet" person who never spoke ill of the military or his country.
"He swore an oath of loyalty to the military," Grieger said. "I didn't hear anything contrary to those oaths."
But, more recently, federal agents grew suspicious.
At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.
They had not determined for certain whether Hasan is the author of the posting, and a formal investigation had not been opened before the shooting, said law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case.
Federal law-enforcement agents ordered an evacuation of the apartment complex where Hasan lived in Killeen, Texas, Thursday night and conducted a search of his home, said Hilary Shine, director of public information for the city. She didn't say what was found during the search.
Officials said earlier that federal search warrants were being drawn up to authorize the seizure of his computer.
Retired Army Col. Terry Lee, who said he worked with Hasan, told Fox News that Hasan had hoped President Barack Obama would pull troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq. Lee said Hasan got into frequent arguments with others in the military who supported the wars, and had tried hard to prevent his pending deployment.
Hasan attended prayers regularly when he lived outside Washington, often in his Army uniform, said Faizul Khan, a former imam at a mosque Hasan attended in Silver Spring, Md. He said Hasan was a lifelong Muslim.
"I got the impression that he was a committed soldier," Khan said. He spoke often with Hasan about Hasan's desire for a wife.
On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.
"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine."
Nothing stood out about Hasan as radical or extremist, Khan said.
"We hardly ever got to discussing politics," Khan said. "Mostly we were discussing religious matters, nothing too controversial, nothing like an extremist."
Hasan earned his rank of major in April 2008, according to a July 2008 Army Times article.
He served eight years as an enlisted soldier. He also served in the ROTC as an undergraduate at Virginia Tech University in Blacksburg. He received a bachelor's degree in biochemistry there in 1997.
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Associated Press writers Lara Jakes, Pam Hess, Lolita C. Baldor and Brett Zongker in Washington and Alicia Chang in Los Angeles contributed to this report.
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That's one problem right there. They should have known about that and given him a dishonorable discharge.
BINGO!
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shooter hated obama's decision to keep soldiers in iraq.
he posted all sort of anti-american shit on blogs... WTF is he still in uniform?
This scumbag POFS MOOOSLIME should have done the honorable thing and resigned if he was not happy about the wars.
What disgusting POFS these animals are. He sucked up tax dollars to get educated, etc and then does this? Whata waste of life. I swear liberalism and islam together is worse than any nuclear bomb.
I am so pissed off over this, additionally, news is coming out that the feds knew about this guy 6 months ago!
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This scumbag POFS MOOOSLIME should have done the honorable thing and resigned if he was not happy about the wars.
What disgusting POFS these animals are. He sucked up tax dollars to get educated, etc and then does this? Whata waste of life. I swear liberalism and islam together is worse than any nuclear bomb.
I am so pissed off over this, additionally, news is coming out that the feds knew about this guy 6 months ago!
And now the pile of camel shit is being kept alive on ventilators......and guess who is paying for it? Pisses me off to no end.
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And now the pile of camel shit is being kept alive on ventilators......and guess who is paying for it? Pisses me off to no end.
They should bring in a pig, suspend it over his body, and kill it and let the blood drip all over this savage POFS.
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They should bring in a pig, suspend it over his body, and kill it and let the blood drip all over this savage POFS.
And then take him back to Ft. Hood and drop him off at the center of the base and inform everyone on base where he is.
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And then take him back to Ft. Hood and drop him off at the center of the base and inform everyone on base where he is.
1000000000000% - let his "cousin" carry the corpse too.
I am so fed up with this PC culture we have.
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1000000000000% - let his "cousin" carry the corpse too.
I am so fed up with this PC culture we have.
I'm so done with it. I will never again bite my tongue in regards to this sickening cult of death.
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In one way I am happy he is still alive.
For one thing the outrage and backlash against the PC culture that has infected this country like the Ebola virus will be severe.
Could you imagine what a trial would do to this country? I envision a backlash against all things liberal and Muslim commensurate with the country's response after 9-11
This sort of tragedy may have a positive impact on the country in that it reminds everyone who the enemy is and how close he is to our backyards. Hopefully this massacare will have the same cumulative effect on the country's psyche that another 911 would have had with much less death.
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And for good measure
www.jtf.org
www.prophetofdoom.net
I encourage everyone to examine the religion of peace.
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In one way I am happy he is still alive.
For one thing the outrage and backlash against the PC culture that has infected this country like the Ebola virus will be severe.
Could you imagine what a trial would do to this country? I envision a backlash against all things liberal and Muslim commensurate with the country's response after 9-11
This sort of tragedy may have a positive impact on the country in that it reminds everyone who the enemy is and how close he is to our backyards. Hopefully this massacare will have the same cumulative effect on the country's psyche that another 911 would have had with much less death.
The enemy within is far worse than anything else. We need to end this PC garbage immediately.
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In one way I am happy he is still alive.
For one thing the outrage and backlash against the PC culture that has infected this country like the Ebola virus will be severe.
Could you imagine what a trial would do to this country? I envision a backlash against all things liberal and Muslim commensurate with the country's response after 9-11
This sort of tragedy may have a positive impact on the country in that it reminds everyone who the enemy is and how close he is to our backyards. Hopefully this massacare will have the same cumulative effect on the country's psyche that another 911 would have had with much less death.
Excellent post and I hope you are right.
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And for good measure
www.jtf.org
www.prophetofdoom.net
I encourage everyone to examine the religion of peace.
www.thereligionofpeace.c om
Documents all Islamic terrorist attacks that occur every day. Thousands of attacks every year that go undocumented in the US media.
www.wikiislam.com
A site dedicated to posting viewpoints and information about Islam that can't be censored or changed to a more "neutral" viewpoint. Great source of information on this barbaric religion.
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Hopefully this massacare will have the same cumulative effect on the country's psyche that another 911 would have had with much less death.
I certainly hope NOT! 911 was not good for your country's psyche. it was in fact disastrous.
It put people in a constant state of fear, paralyzed their ability to think, ushered in the patriot act, pillaged your treasury, and allowed some of the biggest crooks to hijack your government and make significant progress in destroying your freedoms, your way of life, and your economy.
Let's hope it mobilizes positive action, thoughtful, critical analysis and measures to ensure this type of thing never happens again, ...because neither the world nor the USA can afford another neocon induced sleep walk off the edge of a cliff. There are no more parachutes and it will be one heckuva hard landing. Reptilian brain responses just make things worse.
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I certainly hope NOT! 911 was not good for your country's psyche. it was in fact disastrous.
It put people in a constant state of fear, paralyzed their ability to think, ushered in the patriot act, pillaged your treasury, and allowed some of the biggest crooks to hijack your government and make significant progress in destroying your freedoms, your way of life, and your economy.
Let's hope it mobilizes positive action, thoughtful, critical analysis and measures to ensure this type of thing never happens again, ...because neither the world nor the USA can afford another neocon induced sleep walk off the edge of a cliff. There are no more parachutes and it will be one heckuva hard landing. Reptilian brain responses just make things worse.
We should take positive action and end the pc nonsense that has infected this nation.
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We should take positive action and end the pc nonsense that has infected this nation.
Was this about political correctness, ...or simply dropping the ball due to the need for stop losses?
Why don't you let all the facts come forth before trying to exploit this tragedy by linking our own personal agenda. I'm surprised HH6 hasn't chimed in with "...and this is why we shouldn't have universal healthcare..." ::)
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Was this about political correctness, ...or simply dropping the ball due to the need for stop losses?
Why don't you let all the facts come forth before trying to exploit this tragedy by linking our own personal agenda. I'm surprised HH6 hasn't chimed in with "...and this is why we shouldn't have universal healthcare..." ::)
POLITICIZING A MURDER -
JAG - GGGGFFFFYYYYYYY AND THEN JUMP OFF A BUILDING. YOU ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH.
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POLITICIZING A MURDER -
JAG - GGGGFFFFYYYYYYY AND THEN JUMP OFF A BUILDING. YOU ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH.
Another left-wing sick POFS. Sounds just like Moveon, Mons Venus, and the rest of sick perverts on the left.
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Here's our guy...
Nasser El Sonbaty? :P
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Another left-wing sick POFS. Sounds just like Moveon, Mons Venus, and the rest of sick perverts on the left.
Here is the woman who took down this animal vermin.
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The police arrests Obama's black friend and immediately, without knowing all of the facts, Obama concludes that the police "acted stupidly."
Now an American Muslim extremist kills a bunch of American soldiers and
President Obama, in remarks Friday morning, cautioned against "jumping to conclusions" about what had triggered "one of the worst mass shootings ever to take place on an American military base."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/06/texas.fort.hood.shootings/index.html
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I will not say what I am thinking right now.
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Was this about political correctness, ...or simply dropping the ball due to the need for stop losses?
Why don't you let all the facts come forth before trying to exploit this tragedy by linking our own personal agenda. I'm surprised HH6 hasn't chimed in with "...and this is why we shouldn't have universal healthcare..." ::)
Well Jag u idiot..this is about a nutbag muslim not healthcare....many of those soldiers are alive today because of the excellant healthcare and training provided by the DOD..u remember the DOD right...the only gov organization that actually works.
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Well Jag u idiot..this is about a nutbag muslim not healthcare....many of those soldiers are alive today because of the excellant healthcare and training provided by the DOD..u remember the DOD right...the only gov organization that actually works.
Well it was a long time in coming, ...but it's finally here. We finally agree on something.
Oh HH6, ...i really miss these warm fuzzy moments between us... they are so few and far between. :)
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Agree with Jag in wondering why this guy was not removed from duty with the info that has come out the last day. He was an obvious muslim sympathizer, was vocal about his hatred of the U.S. being in the middle east, proclaimed himself as a muslim first and American second and at some point converted to radical thinking. The U.S. army should have had a lower threshold to remove him...and I bet they will in the future. We must not over profile but being too PC and ignoring the signs of a known muslim extremist proves to be deadly...to 13 innocent American soldiers.
We have to call this for what it is....this guy was a nutcase muslim extremist and flipped when he was told to deploy to Afghanastan. The scary part is that he is well educated...we've seen that with other Muslim extremists. Yes, some people that go into psychiatry have their own metal issues but few, if any, turn out to be mass murderers.
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I will post the article which explains why he was allowed to remain in the army shortly.
PC horseshit was the Army's rationale... Sad to say, but its true.
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From todays New York Post==>
Refuses to see extremists
By PAUL SPERRY
Why did the US military ignore the clear warning signs that Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the suspected Ft. Hood shooter, had embraced radical Islam -- and thus become a danger to all around him?
It wasn't an oversight, it was policy -- one the Pentagon has been doubling down on ever since 9/11. This summer, Hasan was overheard cheering the shooting death of a Little Rock Army recruiter by a Muslim. His patients complained about him proselytizing about Islam. He gave his nationality as "Palestinian" even though he was born in America. He apparently blogged about the glory of suicide bombings.
His superiors put up blinders to all these red flags because Hasan -- who wore traditional Islamic robe and kufi and prayed five times a day -- practiced the "religion of peace." And they're not supposed to make a connection between that religion and terrorism, even as they prosecute a war on Islamic terrorism.
The Pentagon has made well-publicized moves to show the military does not equate Islam with terror, and is making efforts to accommodate more Muslims in the military, whose ranks now exceed 15,000. It recently dedicated a new Muslim prayer center at Quantico, commissioned the first Muslim chaplain at the Air Force Academy and inaugurated the first Muslim prayer room at West Point.
Good and decent Muslims certainly serve admirably. But how does the military know which Muslims will put allegiance to country ahead of allegiance to Allah as interpreted by radical Islam? A conflict obviously exists for soldiers like Hasan -- and for Sgt. Hasan Akbar, the Muslim convert who in 2003 fragged commanding officers at a military camp outside Iraq, killing two and wounding 15 others. Akbar said at the time he did it out of loyalty to the ummah, the international community of Muslims. "You guys are coming into our countries," he said, "and you're going to rape our women and kill our children."
Within months of Akbar's traitorous 2003 attacks, the Defense Intelligence Agency issued an internal report warning that Muslim soldiers pose a possible security threat -- which the Pentagon by and large ignored.
Then, in 2005, after the FBI broke up a Muslim spy ring at Gitmo that involved Muslim military personnel, the Pentagon's counterspying unit, the Counterintelligence Field Activity, warned brass that Islamic legal doctrine was compromising devout Muslim soldiers' loyalty: "Recent examples of a Muslim FBI agent and other Muslim law-enforcement personnel declining to investigate their fellow Muslims, the flawed translation process in Guantanamo and the controversy surrounding an Army Muslim chaplain and his relationship with Muslim detainees in Guantanamo are very probably concrete expressions of conscientious decisions rooted in a clearly articulated religious and legal doctrine," the declassified briefing states.
But higher-ups ignored that report,too.
They also balked at a subsequent Defense Department Inspector General warning to the Pentagon to review the backgrounds of Muslim chaplains who'd been sponsored by a group founded by a Muslim activist convicted of terrorism. Asked to make sure those chaplains weren't radicalizing soldiers, a Pentagon spokeswoman responded blithely, "These are all good chaplains who have represented their faith well."
A couple of years ago, it became known that 10 of the 14 Muslim chaplains in the US military had trained at an Islamic school that the FBI raided after 9/11, a school still run by an unindicted terrorist co-conspirator.
Members of Congress led by Rep. Sue Myrick (R-NC) last year asked the Pentagon to use the FBI to screen groups that certify chaplains. The Pentagon replied it would be "legally problematic" to do so -- even though some of these chaplains have been radicalizing soldiers. As it stands now, the Pentagon won't remove or reject Muslim chaplains unless they've been charged or convicted of terrorism or if the religious organization endorsing them appears on the State Department's list of foreign terror organizations. The chaplain who set up the Quantico mosque graduated from the same FBI-raided radical school, now operating as Cordoba University.
Last year, Hassan Abujihaad, a Navy signalman, was convicted of tipping off al Qaeda about battle group movements in the Persian Gulf, including disclosing classified documents detailing the group's vulnerability to terror attack. "Father of Jihad," the name he chose when he converted to Islam, gave this traitor away -- yet the military was too drunk on political correctness to notice when it recruited him and put him on a destroyer.
Other terrorists are knocking on the recruiting-station door. One of the convicted Fort Dix terrorists said he wanted to join the Army so he could kill US soldiers from the "inside." Meanwhile, the Army secretary says he's trying to "understand the effects of stress" that could have led a soldier at the Army's largest post to mow down so many of his fellow soldiers. What stress could have caused him to calmly pass out Qurans to his neighbors’ just hours before the shooting, and then, as he opened fire, shout, "Allah hu Akbar"?
Earth to Pentagon: The Muslim shooter didn't snap. His terrorism was well-planned. He'd carefully prepared for a martyrdom operation.
If officials would take off the PC blinders, they'd see that. Until they do, more soldiers will be vulnerable to attack -- along with the rest of us.
Paul Sperry, a Hoover Institution media fellow, is co-author of the new book, "Muslim Mafia."