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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: mogulgangi on November 14, 2009, 06:14:00 PM
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just wanna know if i should hate all those that have been in that website....which is 60% of the ifbb...no disrespect
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It's only gay if you want it to be.
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It's only gay if you want it to be.
i mean, if im sitting at the dinner table with the family, can i bring it up ?
i wanna talk of how great of a carrer the ifbb can be ...the great ventures you can expect...
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If you are embarassed by it and are ashamed to share it with those you love...it is g4p.
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Never been to that site, but based on some of the pics posted here, I'd say
Musclegallery = gayer than paying for porn
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there's no such thing as g4p; either you are or you ain't
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just wanna know if i should hate all those that have been in that website....which is 60% of the ifbb...no disrespect
Is donning a thong and posing to an audience of men, who pay for the privilege of watching, gay? Many people would say yes. You might as well hate all of the IFBB.
Bah! Doom disapproves.
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Just preface the story at the dinner table with "No Homo" and you should be ok.
Have you listened to this RX Muscle Off Topic show?
http://www.rxmuscle.com/radio/OT-07302009.mp3
PJ Braun tells a hilarious story (about 30 minutes) about how he and Evan Centopani were basically flown into a guest posing gig that involved a he/she, a large group of gay CEO supplement company owners, and two young gay guys also flown in to be boy toys for a weekend.
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Just preface the story at the dinner table with "No Homo" and you should be ok.
Have you listened to this RX Muscle Off Topic show?
http://www.rxmuscle.com/radio/OT-07302009.mp3
PJ Braun tells a hilarious story (about 30 minutes) about how he and Evan Centopani were basically flown into a guest posing gig that involved a he/she, a large group of gay CEO supplement company owners, and two young gay guys also flown in to be boy toys for a weekend.
evan is cool
but the other dude, there is no way he denied an "ability" to pay for all his gear for the rest of the year......shit, i know his high paying corporate job does well, but shit, who wants to pay hgh bills with their own money
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It's only gay if you want it to be.
exactly
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Never been to that site, but based on some of the pics posted here, I'd say
Musclegallery = gayer than paying for porn
Waiting for Bay's comments on this.
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Tim and I disagree, but I have said long ago that I consider MG G4P.
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there's no such thing as g4p; either you are or you ain't
Mmm, not true.
99% of people have a price. Just sayin'...
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Mmm, not true.
99% of people have a price. Just sayin'...
Word. ::)
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Word. ::)
X 2 oh brother ::)
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Word. ::)
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Tim and I disagree, but I have said long ago that I consider MG G4P.
Here lies an interesting philosophical question. Where does the line exist? Personally I probably wouldn't consider Muscle Gallery G4P, though I would consider j/o solo videos as being such.
If I were to think of muscle gallery as g4p, then I would probably have to consider doing a photo shoot for Flex magazine, as G4P, (Jay in Daisy dukes anyone?)
See...there is simply too much room for interpretation at the end users level, to really call this G4P, per say. Don't get me wrong, the audience for this is mostly closeted gay men, or "curious" straight men, but still, it is vague enough that there is still some room for interpretation.
There is of course no room for interpretation, in watching Kai Greene fuck grapefruits for men, or dance naked for men, etc. Or pornography, escorting, etc. These would probably fit my definition better....
Nonetheless it is a moot argument, as it is a bad image for the "sport," and should be frowned upon at all levels.
M!
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Mmm, not true.
99% of people have a price. Just sayin'...
so what's the price for bay or Tim to do a chick?
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"G4p" is anytime a other wise straight man comprimises his sexuality solely because of money. Furthermore, the sex act that he is getting paid for has to involve another dude and said dude has to either be giving or receiving
therefore anything "solo" (though produced for gay men) can't really be considered G4P
this is just my opinion
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"G4p" is anytime a other wise straight man comprimises his sexuality solely because of money. Furthermore, the sex act that he is getting paid for has to involve another dude and said dude has to either be giving or receiving
therefore anything "solo" (though produced for gay men) can't really be considered G4P
this is just my opinion
Yes...this is probably the best way to look at it. Though to be fair.. being filmed with your cock in your hand, jerking off for schmoes, has got to be a serious compromise for some of these people. I worked at a porn shop for about a year and a half, and it was amusing...almost all the gay porn, and especially the gay porn only featuring one dude doing "solo" acts... always had some guy, who looked half dead inside, hating life, with an expression on his face like... "Please lets get this shit over with!"
Flip over to the straight porn, and all they guys are like "Fuck yeah!" ....lol
I wonder if Jay was crying inside when he had to pose for musclemag wearing nothing but a towel, or daisy dukes, etc...
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Yes...this is probably the best way to look at it. Though to be fair.. being filmed with your cock in your hand, jerking off for schmoes, has got to be a serious compromise for some of these people. I worked at a porn shop for about a year and a half, and it was amusing...almost all the gay porn, and especially the gay porn only featuring one dude doing "solo" acts... always had some guy, who looked half dead inside, hating life, with an expression on his face like... "Please lets get this shit over with!"
Flip over to the straight porn, and all they guys are like "Fuck yeah!" ....lol
I wonder if Jay was crying inside when he had to pose for musclemag wearing nothing but a towel, or daisy dukes, etc...
u had to watch gay porn as part of your job? I'm a little lost on how u know what gay porn is like ???
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u had to watch gay porn as part of your job? I'm a little lost on how u know what gay porn is like ???
No I didn't have to watch gay porn, but I did have to stock it, and sell it if a customer bought some, also you would occasionally have to see it if you were walking around the "theater" part of the store, and someone was watching it. So yes...working at a porn shop, you are bombarded with porn, mostly straight porn, but some gay porn as well, and there is no way to not see some of it.
The thing is that when you are working at a place like that....you completely become desensitized to porn, and become oblivious to things like breasts, penises, etc. A job with some funny stories, but not something I would recommend to other people.
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therefore anything "solo" (though produced for gay men) can't really be considered G4P
you're jacking off in front of a camera man, a sound man, a lighting man, the director, the makeup guy. for the musclehunks and powermen websites, you're doing this 5 times in 5 days. sounds g4p to me
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No I didn't have to watch gay porn, but I did have to stock it, and sell it if a customer bought some, also you would occasionally have to see it if you were walking around the "theater" part of the store, and someone was watching it. So yes...working at a porn shop, you are bombarded with porn, mostly straight porn, but some gay porn as well, and there is no way to not see some of it.
The thing is that when you are working at a place like that....you completely become desensitized to porn, and become oblivious to things like breasts, penises, etc. A job with some funny stories, but not something I would recommend to other people.
very interesting, thanks for sharing. Didn't know porn stores had such viewing room/theatres. even if there are, i would have thought they'd be private, i mean FFS would you wanna see what else the customers doing in there while watching this stuff? :-X :-X :-X
Assuming u enjoyed porn before this porn and then became desensitized to it, did you ever 'recover' from this at a later point? Has it changed your view on watching porn, the porn industry, etc?
Man i've got a bunch of questions, but i dont wanna hijack this thread :P
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you're jacking off in front of a camera man, a sound man, a lighting man, the director, the makeup guy. for the musclehunks and powermen websites, you're doing this 5 times in 5 days. sounds g4p to me
Tim...you are contridicting yourself. Here is a quote from a previous statement of yours concerning this issue.
bay thinks musclegallery is g4p? there's no nudity there. suggestive videos, sure. but no nudity.
musclehunks is j/o videos. sure that's a little more gay, and a bad image for the sport. but its still not g4p.
g4p is escorting and prostitution. prostitution is illegal. it is certainly bad for the sport. but same with the women. there are IFBB pro women who escort. they have the wrestling videos. all of that is bad for the image of the sport.
what has always bothered me about the powers that be in bodybuilding is that they looked the other way regarding escorting, whether male or female, as long as it was kept out of the public eye. but they blacklisted any guy who was openly gay, even those who never did prostitution or porn.
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you're jacking off in front of a camera man, a sound man, a lighting man, the director, the makeup guy. for the musclehunks and powermen websites, you're doing this 5 times in 5 days. sounds g4p to me
actually,.....you got a point there
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very interesting, thanks for sharing. Didn't know porn stores had such viewing room/theatres. even if there are, i would have thought they'd be private, i mean FFS would you wanna see what else the customers doing in there while watching this stuff? :-X :-X :-X
Assuming u enjoyed porn before this porn and then became desensitized to it, did you ever 'recover' from this at a later point? Has it changed your view on watching porn, the porn industry, etc?
Man I've got a bunch of questions, but i don't wanna hijack this thread :P
Well the privacy issue, is largely dependent on what state/city you live in, and what laws are in place. I worked in Hollywood at the time, so the booths were required to be "Semi-Private" which means that no one could see you unless the were walking by the hallway. (Its hard to explain but there were mirrors at an angle so, if employees, were to walk down the hallway, they could see if anyone was committing lewd acts.)
Security was required, (or myself if no security guard was present), to patrol the theater rooms, periodically, to make sure people weren't blowing each other, naked, etc, because the police, could theoretically issue tickets for lewd conduct, if they caught wind of it, and also get the store into trouble.
Theaters aside... again one has to constantly stock new shipments of product..which means shrink wrapping, rotating, etc.... there is no way to work in a place like that and not see some Gay materials....lol.
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I would wank myself in front of a webcam for money and I'm one of the most heterosexual men on the internet.
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I would wank myself in front of a webcam for money and I'm one of the most heterosexual men on the internet.
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btw, a off subject question for topskin69
why do men still park in front of the porn shop when there is always parking in the back?
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Well the privacy issue, is largely dependent on what state/city you live in, and what laws are in place. I worked in Hollywood at the time, so the booths were required to be "Semi-Private" which means that no one could see you unless the were walking by the hallway. (Its hard to explain but there were mirrors at an angle so, if employees, were to walk down the hallway, they could see if anyone was committing lewd acts.)
Security was required, (or myself if no security guard was present), to patrol the theater rooms, periodically, to make sure people weren't blowing each other, naked, etc, because the police, could theoretically issue tickets for lewd conduct, if they caught wind of it, and also get the store into trouble.
Theaters aside... again one has to constantly stock new shipments of product..which means shrink wrapping, rotating, etc.... there is no way to work in a place like that and not see some Gay materials....lol.
thanks for sharing!
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btw, a off subject question for topskin69
why do men still park in front of the porn shop when there is always parking in the back?
Lmao...good question. Well this area in Hollywood, it was pretty much impossible to park in front of the building, and most people didn't know about the parking in the back, (you had to find a back alley to get to it, and unless you were a regular, you would have no idea), so many of them would park in the parking lot of an adjacent business, and walk over, or sometimes take the bus...lol.
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I would wank myself in front of a webcam for money and I'm one of the most heterosexual men on the internet.
how much would your need to get payed to lose your dignity?
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how much would your need to get payed to lose your dignity?
for people like johnny no name (and i love the guy, part homo), dignity is overrated. not like he has a famous family name to uphold, and i have a feeling his family doesn't give a shit about what he does either, cuz he can never do right.
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for people like johnny no name (and i love the guy, part homo), dignity is overrated. not like he has a famous family name to uphold, and i have a feeling his family doesn't give a shit about what he does either, cuz he can never do right.
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dignity is WAY overrated
quite honestly, i'd rather have 1500 bucks than this thing known as "dignity" which thanks to reality shows and celebrity sex tapes means less and less everyday
in the end of the day, i'm gonna beat off anyway-might as well get paid for it
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qft
dignity is WAY overrated
quite honestly, i'd rather have 1500 bucks than this thing known as "dignity" which thanks to reality shows and celebrity sex tapes means less and less everyday
in the end of the day, i'm gonna beat off anyway-might as well get paid for it
then you do not understand it in its wholeness...and way to use TV as justification for a belief.
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how much would your need to get payed to lose your dignity?
Well, at the moment i masturbate about 5 - 7 times a week and I would do it in front of a webcam for say £250 per week ($418.49). So that's about £35 - 50 ($58 - 85) to do something I was going to do anyway.
Dignity's for suckers, yo!
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qft
dignity is WAY overrated
quite honestly, i'd rather have 1500 bucks than this thing known as "dignity" which thanks to reality shows and celebrity sex tapes means less and less everyday
in the end of the day, i'm gonna beat off anyway-might as well get paid for it
For better or worse, an argument many men can identify with. ::)
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For better or worse, an argument many men can identify with. ::)
Purple Aki will jack off on cam for the low price of $58 dollars. :-\
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Purple Aki will jack off on cam for the low price of $58 dollars. :-\
that's just dumb
not the "jacking off in front of a webcam" part- the $58 dollars part
sell yourself at a premium cuz your price goes down after your first shoot
for instance, seancody.com pays alot but only for first timers. If you have done previous work, they ,most likely, won't give you a second look
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Mmm, not true.
99% of people have a price. Just sayin'...
true dat. those 'suppliments' cost a fortune and 'modeling' is an easy way to make big bucks.
its not gay if you dont swallow.
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true dat. those 'suppliments' cost a fortune and 'modeling' is an easy way to make big bucks.
its not gay if you dont swallow say "no homo" every time he pumps his dick into your asshole.
fixed :-X ;D ;D :-X :-X
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that's just dumb
not the "jacking off in front of a webcam" part- the $58 dollars part
sell yourself at a premium cuz your price goes down after your first shoot
for instance, seancody.com pays alot but only for first timers. If you have done previous work, they ,most likely, won't give you a second look
Again, you are spot on. I have never understood these muscle guys who hustle for $250-$300 a session. If my body/cock were for sale (it's not) it would not be for $300.
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Again, you are spot on. I have never understood these muscle guys who hustle for $250-$300 a session. If my body/cock were for sale (it's not) it would not be for $300.
So how much Bay ?
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Again, you are spot on. I have never understood these muscle guys who hustle for $250-$300 a session. If my body/cock were for sale (it's not) it would not be for $300.
didn't you make a thread saying that you were available for g4$? ;D
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Again, you are spot on. I have never understood these muscle guys who hustle for $250-$300 a session. If my body/cock were for sale (it's not) it would not be for $300.
you'd have to post a pic of the dic b4 we can say its worth 3 bills.
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didn't you make a thread saying that you were available for g4$? ;D
No. But it's not at all surprising that if there was a gay or G4P thread anywhere on getbig you wouldn't be far behind sniffing it out. ::)
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if there isnt there should be; 333. would be postin' like a mad woman.
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No. But it's not at all surprising that if there was a gay or G4P thread anywhere on getbig you wouldn't be far behind sniffing it out. ::)
gay guy calling a straight guy gay, how sad. ::) ::)
your lack of a sense of humor sickens me, do you have a stick up your ass?
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So much does everyone think that they are worth. I think if anyone was honest, they will admit that they have a price, but how much?
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So much does everyone think that they are worth. I think if anyone was honest, they will admit that they have a price, but how much?
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i know i can get 1,800 if i did a solo video with seancody...not cuz i'm special but that is starting pay for a solo from a "first timer"
over the summer, I was gonna get 1500 A DAY from "Torso" and they would have paid my way to Hawaii for the shoot (it never went through because the photographer didn't "like my attitude")
also, over the summer a local producer was gonna pay me (get this) 6k (cash) to have sex with a 18 year old male
damn internet!!
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i know i can get 1,800 if i did a solo video with seancody...not cuz i'm special but that is starting pay for a solo from a "first timer"
over the summer, I was gonna get 1500 A DAY from "Torso" and they would have paid my way to Hawaii for the shoot (it never went through because the photographer didn't "like my attitude")
also, over the summer a local producer was gonna pay me (get this) 6k (cash) to have sex with a 18 year old male
damn internet!!
Now Johnny...be honest.. were you the least bit tempted to take up the 6k offer?
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Now Johnny...be honest.. were you the least bit tempted to take up the 6k offer?
okay, i'll be honest
..the only thing that really bothered me about that "project" was the fact that it was a kid.
I mean, i'm 31 years old I know the consequences of my actions but a 18 year old kid doesn't know his left from his right at that point in his life.
Plus, the producer said he wanted me to put the kid "at ease" before the shoot cuz he was alittle nervous. I didn't want to be responsible for some kid ruing the rest of his life
remember guys 6K CASH!!!!!!
now, how will a straight male like myself get hard to bang another dude. well, that shows you the power of 100mg of Viagra on a empty stomach
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you're jacking off in front of a camera man, a sound man, a lighting man, the director, the makeup guy. for the musclehunks and powermen websites, you're doing this 5 times in 5 days. sounds g4p to me
maybe there's like 10 hot women in the room, out of the camera's view.
There's not. I'm just saying.
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okay, i'll be honest
..the only thing that really bothered me about that "project" was the fact that it was a kid.
I mean, i'm 31 years old I know the consequences of my actions but a 18 year old kid doesn't know his left from his right at that point in his life.
Plus, the producer said he wanted me to put the kid "at ease" before the shoot cuz he was alittle nervous. I didn't want to be responsible for some kid ruing the rest of his life
remember guys 6K CASH!!!!!!
now, how will a straight male like myself get hard to bang another dude. well, that shows you the power of 100mg of Viagra on a empty stomach
Well I commend you for your choice... you are correct in that this kid was basicaly being exploited, while you were making a much more informed decision, (regardless of the moral implications of said decision.)
No one will deny 6k is a lot of food...sadly though it seems like it is just a slippery slope downhill from there... :-\
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Well I commend you for your choice... you are correct in that this kid was basicaly being exploited, while you were making a much more informed decision, (regardless of the moral implications of said decision.)
No one will deny 6k is a lot of food...sadly though it seems like it is just a slippery slope downhill from there... :-\
now here is the follow up question that i ask myself
would i have had felt as "conflicted" if it was a 18 year old girl?
honestly, I wouldn't have....then again, in that situation (despite the disparity in age) it would have still been a heterosexual act
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now here is the follow up question that i ask myself
would i have had felt as "conflicted" if it was a 18 year old girl?
honestly, I wouldn't have....then again, in that situation (despite the disparity in age) it would have still been a heterosexual act
I wouldn’t have sex with an 18 year old muscle-boy or girl. :-X
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I wouldn’t have sex with an 18 year old muscle-boy or girl. :-X
18 is legal though
plus in THAT situation, the girl would be making more than me
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18 is legal though
plus in THAT situation, the girl would be making more than me
I'd still pass. Too young. :-\
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I'd still pass. Too young. :-\
lol you would do a male over a female so your opinion in itself is the minority here
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So much does everyone think that they are worth. I think if anyone was honest, they will admit that they have a price, but how much?
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i've paid up to $500 an hour.
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okay, i'll be honest
..the only thing that really bothered me about that "project" was the fact that it was a kid.
I mean, i'm 31 years old I know the consequences of my actions but a 18 year old kid doesn't know his left from his right at that point in his life.
Plus, the producer said he wanted me to put the kid "at ease" before the shoot cuz he was alittle nervous. I didn't want to be responsible for some kid ruing the rest of his life
remember guys 6K CASH!!!!!!
now, how will a straight male like myself get hard to bang another dude. well, that shows you the power of 100mg of Viagra on a empty stomach
i dont see any "no homo"
OUTED!!!
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i've paid up to $500 an hour.
OUTED!!!
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I would wank myself in front of a webcam for money and I'm one of the most heterosexual men on the internet.
OUTED!!!
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If you are embarassed by it and are ashamed to share it with those you love...it is g4p.
great post ;D
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i dont see any "no homo"
OUTED!!!
you have a great fascination about outing people; repressing anything, big boi ?