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Im not saying it was haarp. I have no idea, but its interesting shit
2010 January 19
by Aislinn Laing, and Tom Leonard in Port-au-Prince
The French minister in charge of humanitarian relief called on the UN to “clarify” the American role amid claims the military build up was hampering aid efforts.
U.S. Air Force troops patrol downtown Port-au-Prince Monday January 18, 2010. Thousands more U.S. troops will keep order on Haiti’s increasingly lawless streets as tens of thousands of survivors wait desperately for aid. REUTERS/Jorge Silva Alain Joyandet admitted he had been involved in a scuffle with a US commander in the airport’s control tower over the flight plan for a French evacuation flight.
“This is about helping Haiti, not about occupying Haiti,” Mr Joyandet said.
Geneva-based charity Medecins Sans Frontieres backed his calls saying hundreds of lives were being put at risk as planes carrying vital medical supplies were being turned away by American air traffic controllers.
But US commanders insisted their forces’ focus was on humanitarian work and last night agreed to prioritize aid arrivals to the airport over military flights, after the intervention of the UN.
The diplomatic row came amid heightened frustrations that hundreds of tons of aid was still not getting through. Charities reported violence was also worsening as desperate Haitians took matters into their own hands.
The death toll is now estimated at up to 200,000 lives. Around three million Haitians – a third of the country’s population – have been affected by Tuesday’s earthquake and two million require food assistance.
While food and water was gradually arriving at the makeshift camps which have sprung up around the city, riots have broken out in other areas where supplies have still not materialized.
Haiti was occupied by the US between 1915 and 1935, and historical sensitivities together with friction with other countries over the relief effort has made the Americans cautious about their role in the operation.
American military commanders have repeatedly stressed that they are not entering the country as an occupying force.
US soldiers in Port-au-Prince said they had been told to be discreet about how they carry their M4 assault rifles.
A paratrooper sergeant said they were authorized to use “deadly force” if they see anyone’s life in danger but only as a “last resort”.
A grim report prepared by the Russian Northern Fleet for Prime Minister Putin is stating today that the catastrophic earthquake that has devastated the Island of Haiti was the ‘clear result’ of a United States Navy test of one of its ‘earthquake weapons’ planned to be used by the Americans upon the Persian Nation of Iran but had gone ‘horribly wrong’.
The Northern Fleet has been monitoring US Naval movements and activities in the Caribbean since 2008 when the Americans announced their intention to re-establish their Forth Fleet that had been disbanded in 1950, and which was responded to by the Motherland when later that year a Russian flotilla led by nuclear powered cruiser Peter the Great began their first exercises in this region since the ending of the Cold War.
Though virtually unknown to the American people, the use, and perfection, of earthquake weapon technology has a decade’s long history that began with the former Soviet Unions exploding of a 10 megaton nuclear bomb in September, 1978 and then ‘redirecting’ its shockwave towards Iran where it resulted in a catastrophic 7.4 magnitude earthquake, an event which hastened the downfall of the US backed regime headed by the Shah.
This attack upon Iran by the Soviets was countered by the Americans in April, 1979 when they unleashed one of their newly developed ‘atomic powered’ earthquake weapons against the former communist Nation of Yugoslavia which resulted in a 7.2 magnitude earthquake.
Since the late 1970’s, the United States has ‘greatly advanced’ the state of its earthquake weapons and, according to these reports, now employees devices employing a Tesla Electromagnetic Pulse, Plasma and Sonic technology, along with ‘shockwave bombs’ they have previously been accused by Russia of employing in their war against the Afghan peoples when one of these ‘devices’ was exploded in Afghanistan in March, 2002 triggering a devastating 7.2 magnitude earthquake.
Interesting to note in these reports are their stating that the earthquake weapons test conducted by the US Navy this week in the Caribbean that destroyed Haiti was ‘most probably’ based upon the same type of Tesla technology held responsible for the catastrophic January17, 1995, 6.8 magnitude earthquake that laid to waste the Japanese city of Kobe, and which the mysterious Aum Shinrikyo cult had warned 9 days prior was going to occur, and as we can read:
“Aum’s charismatic guru, Shoko Asahara, predicted the Kobe quake nine days before the event. In an 8 January 1995 radio broadcast, Asahara stated “Japan will be attacked by an earthquake in 1995. The most likely place is Kobe.” Hideo Murai, the late Science and Technology minister for Aum Shinrikyo also adhered to this view. Murai – said to have been the most intelligent Japanese who ever lived – was murdered in a Yakuza orchestrated assassination shortly after speaking on the record to foreign news correspondents.
“Murai presented his allegation in an April 7 1995 news conference at the Foreign Correspondent Club in Japan. In answer to questions about the Kobe quake, Murai said “There is a strong possibility of the activation of an earthquake using electromagnetic power, or somebody may have used a device that applied force inside the Earth.” The Aum leadership believed the Kobe quake an act of war: “The City of Kobe was hit by a surprise attack…” they claimed, adding the City was an “…appropriate guinea pig.”
Note: The Aum Shinrikyo religious order was destroyed shortly after their releasing of this information to the public when blamed for the March 20, 1995 sarin gas attack upon the Tokyo subway system which resulted in 11 of their members, including their leader, being sentenced to death. FSB reports on Aum Shinrikyo further state that their knowledge of the planned use of these ‘doomsday’ devices was gained from the US computer hackers belonging to the Branch Davidian religious order who had penetrated some of the American defense establishments most secret files and resulted in their, likewise, being completely destroyed in what is now known as the Waco Siege ordered by then US District Attorney, and currently Obama’s US Attorney General, Eric Holder.
The Tesla weapons being developed by the United States are based upon the research of Nikola Tesla who was an inventor and a mechanical and electrical engineer. He was one of the most important contributors to the birth of commercial electricity and is best known for his many revolutionary developments in the field of electromagnetism in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
Tesla’s patents and theoretical work formed the basis of modern alternating current (AC) electric power systems, including the polyphase system of electrical distribution and the AC motor, with which he helped usher in the Second Industrial Revolution. Tesla is also credited as the inventor of modern radio by the US Supreme Court.
To Tesla’s earthquake weapons research conducted in the early 20th century we can further read:
“He put his little vibrator in his coat-pocket and went out to hunt a half-erected steel building. Down in the Wall Street district, he found one; ten stories of steel framework without a brick or a stone laid around it. He clamped the vibrator to one of the beams, and fussed with the adjustment until he got it.
Tesla said finally the structure began to creak and weave and the steel-workers came to the ground panic-stricken, believing that there had been an earthquake. Police were called out. Tesla put the vibrator in his pocket and went away. Ten minutes more and he could have laid the building in the street. And, with the same vibrator he could have dropped the Brooklyn Bridge into the East River in less than an hour.
Tesla claimed the device, properly modified, could be used to map underground deposits of oil. A vibration sent through the earth returns an “echo signature” using the same principle as sonar. This idea was actually adapted for use by the petroleum industry, and is used today in a modified form with devices used to locate objects at archaeological digs.”
Important to note at this point are that modern day experiments seeking to discredit Tesla’s earthquake weapons technology have been directed against structures designed to withstand the effects of earthquakes, buildings which in the early 20th century, like those in Haiti today, were not built to withstand such resonance. A most critical difference when viewed in the light of the US Navy’s testing of 2 of these earthquake weapons this past week and where in their Pacific test it resulted in a 6.5 magnitude earthquake hitting the area around the Northern California city of Eureka causing no deaths, their Caribbean test has caused an estimated 500,000 innocents to die.
Equally important to note are these reports stating that ‘more than likely’ the US Navy had ‘full knowledge’ of the catastrophic damage this earthquake weapons test could potentially have upon Haiti and had pre-positioned their Deputy Commander of their Southern Command, General P.K. Keen, on the island to oversee relief efforts if needed.
To the end result of these weapons being tested by the United States, these reports warn, are for the Americans planned destruction of Iran through a series of catastrophic earthquakes designed to bring down their present Islamic regime.
Most unfortunately in all of these events are the peoples of Haiti, who are suffering under conditions so horrible, that even in the best of scenarios, their functioning as a viable Nation has completely come to an end, and for reasons and purposes they have no comprehension of at all as they have become just the latest victim in the New Great Game that will decide the winners and losers of this 21st Century.
http://bellaciao.org/en/spip.php?article19515 (http://bellaciao.org/en/spip.php?article19515)
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Didn't someone mention a coming war in South America? Would Haiti be a strategical strong point for us or something? ???
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repost.
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That is some good comedy. Any more articles from the funny pages?
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That is some good comedy. Any more articles from the funny pages?
Go to Democratic Underground and you will see things you never imagined if you want comedy.
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It's funny how this HAARP earthquake theory has gathered steam among the sheep. Talk about idiotic. There is not one shred of evidence supporting the theory that HAARP can produce earthquakes.
It seems much more likely that it was concocted by Jerry Smith to sell books.
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hugo is just hedging his bets, trying to get the world riled up with anti-american sentiment as we are indeed taking advantage of this crisis to set up bases within striking distance of hugo.
As far as the technology-
we announced in 1997 that the use of earthquake technology was a serious threat to our national security.
now, would we unleash it like this? No way. But if Russia had the technology and suddenly we saw them setting up crazy bases after an earthquake hit cuba, then suddenly we would have whitehouse voices leaking suspicion on russia for it.
It's CT, but not for the technology. rather, for the fact if you used it and it was leaked, the world would probably collectively vote your ass off the island.
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lol i meant the 'real' hugo.
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oh,... lol.... :D
Hugo wasn't even mentioned?
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http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f54/hugo-chavez-says-usa-caused-haiti-quake-tectonic-weapon-1136539/
They have a much bigger thread here about it. They detail a lot of things being argued here. We admitted the technology was a major threat to us, almost 14 years ago. We had a drill with pallets of haiti relief on the runway 12 hours before it happened. And yes, the technology exists to measure ions in atmosphere in order to predict earthquakes. brits are awesome at it.
Maybe we knew it was coming and didn't blow the whistle, who knows.
Hugo (the real one) knows we tried to take his ass out in 2002 and now we have a whole lots of guns in his backyard, he's certainly shittin bricks. So blaming us would be par for course. No evidence, however. I know every govt does some cold shit in the name of being #1, but I don't think we caused it.
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http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f54/hugo-chavez-says-usa-caused-haiti-quake-tectonic-weapon-1136539/
They have a much bigger thread here about it. They detail a lot of things being argued here. We admitted the technology was a major threat to us, almost 14 years ago. We had a drill with pallets of haiti relief on the runway 12 hours before it happened. And yes, the technology exists to measure ions in atmosphere in order to predict earthquakes. brits are awesome at it.
Maybe we knew it was coming and didn't blow the whistle, who knows.
Hugo (the real one) knows we tried to take his ass out in 2002 and now we have a whole lots of guns in his backyard, he's certainly shittin bricks. So blaming us would be par for course. No evidence, however. I know every govt does some cold shit in the name of being #1, but I don't think we caused it.
Here we go - 240 has a new CT to latch on to. ;D ;D ;D
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again - I don't think we caused it. You're the one who thinks Obama is trying to crash the dollar ;)
We're capitalizing on it, no doubt. We need bases in that region. That's a smart move. Until hugo has some kind of evidence, this is just another silly CT.
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again - I don't think we caused it. You're the one who thinks Obama is trying to crash the dollar ;)
We're capitalizing on it, no doubt. We need bases in that region. That's a smart move. Until hugo has some kind of evidence, this is just another silly CT.
now it's not just Hugo, It's the French and some American conservative comentators :D
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you have got to be shitting me. I don't believe any american conservative commentators are seriously spreading this.
there isn't any evidence, just coincidence with the drill.
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like I said in my first post. I have no idea it was haarp. Saying it was haarp taints everything. THere is always a possibility. ATM I'm saying it's not haarp cause I have no freaking idea and no way of proving it.
what is happening after is troubling. this is the reason why I'm interested in this story. http://www.alternet.org/investigations/145279/us_corporations%2C_private_mercenaries_and_the_imf_rush_in_to_profit_from_haiti%27s_crisis?page=entire (http://www.alternet.org/investigations/145279/us_corporations%2C_private_mercenaries_and_the_imf_rush_in_to_profit_from_haiti%27s_crisis?page=entire)
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There is not one shred of evidence supporting the theory that HAARP can produce earthquakes.
why don't you keep an open mind? the technology exists. the mindfuck is in if they'd use it or not and let us argue if they did, while troops and corps rush in to make a buck. :)
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why don't you keep an open mind? the technology exists. the mindfuck is in if they'd use it or not and let us argue if they did, while troops and corps rush in to make a buck. :)
Ok, so with any CT - I have to ask Who? Why? When? How?
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CT's are like arguing the bible. it seems no one here can discuss anything before they've made the decision to accept or dismiss it. :(
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CT's are like arguing the bible. it seems no one here can discuss anything before they've made the decision to accept or dismiss it. :(
Lets break down CT.
"Conspiracy Theory"
A conspiracy is an agreement by two or more people to commit and illegal act.
A theory is a supposed or attempt to explain events other than the official story line.
So, like I said, who, what, when, where, and why?
What is the theory?
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why don't you keep an open mind? the technology exists. the mindfuck is in if they'd use it or not and let us argue if they did, while troops and corps rush in to make a buck. :)
Because you people provide nothing beyond what some Russian or Venezuelan (surely the most trustworthy people in the world) claims. Meanwhile, Ozmo posted a link to a website last week that offered facts, statistics and a host of other things explaining all these conspiracy theories.
This is one of the few places where you can conjure something out of thin air and then get pissed off when people don't buy into it.
There is no evidence proving that HAARP can produce earthquakes. The theory behind it seems to have been created by Jerry Smith in order to drum up book sales. Congrats, you're one of those sheep you hate so much.
I'll be more open to it when you provide something beyond "Well Hugo Chavez and some random Russian guy said the USA did it". ::)
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Ok, so with any CT - I have to ask Who? Why? When? How?
WHO?... The US government. The same that runs programs like DARPA, MKULTRA, BLUEBEAM, STARWARS etc
WHY? To test technology that could render another nation helpless due to the ability to cause a "natural" phenomenon like earthquakes, hurricanes, volcanic eruptions, droughts, etc
WHEN? Well you posibly have a date already (if this earthquake was caused by HARRP). All other times will be determined by whether or not a nation will comply with american desires. Be wary though that China and Russia are working on the same technology.
HOW? HARRP already exist in Alaska (watch Jesse Ventura's CONSPIRACY THEORY show/GOOGLE) Does teh system work perfectly...who knows, but this could have been a test run. And given america's contempt of the world what better place to pick the Haiti (poor and helpless).. wonder why america is running into Haiti and trying to take control over everything? Are they trying to hide evidence of having used such technology? Reminds me of how the World trade Debris was confiscated, shipped to other countries, melted down to make ships etc before a REAL INVESTIGATION OF THE SITE ANS DEBRIS COULD BE DONE.
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Hahaha, if the USA has the sort of technology you're claiming it has, then I guess your little claims of the US losing its superpower status are full of shit. ::)
Like how you change your tune by the day. Gimmick extraordinaire.
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Hahaha, if the USA has the sort of technology you're claiming it has, then I guess your little claims of the US losing its superpower status are full of shit. ::)
Like how you change your tune by the day. Gimmick extraordinaire.
The ENVELOPE LICKER chimes in again....
Had you learn to READ properly you would have noticed when I said DOES THE SYSTEM WORK PERFECTLY...WHO KNOWS, BUT THIS COULD HAVE BEEN A TEST RUN. Try going back to the post and reading it again. I know you;re busy stuffing envelopes and licking them shut, but rest your tongue for a minute so your eyes can see better.
And oh yeah i love how a SUPERPOWER can not even defeat Iraq or Afghanistan...can you define superpower?
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I'd love to comment on this "HAARP Earthquake Machine" theory... but I fear it might lead to the thread being locked.
The Luke
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I'd love to comment on this "HAARP Earthquake Machine" theory... but I fear it might lead to the thread being locked.
The Luke
Please do. I'd like to see something beyond an unfounded claim that proves HAARP can produce earthquakes.
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I'd love to comment on this "HAARP Earthquake Machine" theory... but I fear it might lead to the thread being locked.
The Luke
Anything of any intelligence should not cause a LOCKING of the thread...
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hugo is just hedging his bets, trying to get the world riled up with anti-american sentiment as we are indeed taking advantage of this crisis to set up bases within striking distance of hugo.
As far as the technology-
we announced in 1997 that the use of earthquake technology was a serious threat to our national security.
now, would we unleash it like this? No way. But if Russia had the technology and suddenly we saw them setting up crazy bases after an earthquake hit cuba, then suddenly we would have whitehouse voices leaking suspicion on russia for it.
It's CT, but not for the technology. rather, for the fact if you used it and it was leaked, the world would probably collectively vote your ass off the island.
You saying G-mo closes and a Haitian one opens?
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I think we would use haiti for a helluva lot more than just keeping al-Q someplace. I think it's a valuable strategic location in an area of the world that is a HUGE deal in the coming decades.
The technology was there 13 years ago when agency chiefs admitted there is concern our enemies might use engineered weather, and specifically earthquakes, on us.
Now, do we have it? Common sense would say if our enemies had it a decade ago, we probably have a pretty good idea how it works now.
Did we use anything like that on haiti? There is zero evidence of this. Zero. World leaders making accusation is a HUGE deal - maybe they see a lot of shit we don't - But us peons have seen zero evidence of US doing anything aside from moving in quick to capitalize on a natural event.
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I think we would use haiti for a helluva lot more than just keeping al-Q someplace. I think it's a valuable strategic location in an area of the world that is a HUGE deal in the coming decades.
The technology was there 13 years ago when agency chiefs admitted there is concern our enemies might use engineered weather, and specifically earthquakes, on us.
Now, do we have it? Common sense would say if our enemies had it a decade ago, we probably have a pretty good idea how it works now.
Did we use anything like that on haiti? There is zero evidence of this. Zero. World leaders making accusation is a HUGE deal - maybe they see a lot of shit we don't - But us peons have seen zero evidence of US doing anything aside from moving in quick to capitalize on a natural event.
Do you honestly believe that Hugo Chavez is privy to information that we aren't? Keep in mind some of the other claims this guy has made over the years.
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This entire HAARP high-frequency microwave antennas being used to trigger earthquakes thing is decidedly bullshitty.
Also, the entire Yucatan area is sitting on shattered tectonic plates (geophys surveys have shown that the crust is fractured to a depth of 64 km), which of course is to be expected considering that this is where the asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs impacted, some 65 million years ago. (KT Boundary event)
So... even if you had a device that could trigger earthquakes... you couldn't use it anywhere in or around the Yucatan.
Here's an analogy:
You might be able to collapse a building by strategically knocking out one of it's support columns (ie: triggering a slip at tectonic pressure point) but you couldn't collapse a pile of rubble by hitting it with a sledgehammer (ie: the plates are already shattered and they haven't been mapped, so your earthquake machine would be firing blind).
Add to this the fact that no one has ever demonstrated or even theoretically outlined a mechanism for triggering earthquakes using super high-frequency microwave/radiowave fields.
Just saying...
The Luke
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"Do you honestly believe that Hugo Chavez is privy to information that we aren't? Keep in mind some of the other claims this guy has made over the years. "
YES.
hugo is the leader of a nation that is very much in alliance with Russia on many levels, particularly militarily.
if you don't think Russia has better intel than your everyday getbigger, well...
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I'd love to comment on this "HAARP Earthquake Machine" theory... but I fear it might lead to the thread being locked.
The Luke
Luke, the thread was bumped 4 times over several days by bf without additional comment from anyone. Don't pull that if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Had you or anyone else added to the thread I wouldn't have touched it. Sitting there watching a thread get bumped over and over with nobody adding, who the fuck wouldn't lock it.....
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Luke, the thread was bumped 4 times over several days by bf without additional comment from anyone. Don't pull that if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Had you or anyone else added to the thread I wouldn't have touched it. Sitting there watching a thread get bumped over and over with nobody adding, who the fuck wouldn't lock it.....
The fuck are you talking about? This thread was never bumped by me, and certainly not four times over several days. This is about the fifth thread on the same topic. And each one is as ridiculous as the last.
Don't try to hang the fact that you control this board like a dictatorship around my neck, you pathetic fag.
And to top it off, The Luke's posts on this topic will be ignored by all you tinfoil hat wearing douche bags. Can't wait for thread #6 about this. ::)
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This entire HAARP high-frequency microwave antennas being used to trigger earthquakes thing is decidedly bullshitty.
Also, the entire Yucatan area is sitting on shattered tectonic plates (geophys surveys have shown that the crust is fractured to a depth of 64 km), which of course is to be expected considering that this is where the asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs impacted, some 65 million years ago. (KT Boundary event)
So... even if you had a device that could trigger earthquakes... you couldn't use it anywhere in or around the Yucatan.
Here's an analogy:
You might be able to collapse a building by strategically knocking out one of it's support columns (ie: triggering a slip at tectonic pressure point) but you couldn't collapse a pile of rubble by hitting it with a sledgehammer (ie: the plates are already shattered and they haven't been mapped, so your earthquake machine would be firing blind).
Add to this the fact that no one has ever demonstrated or even theoretically outlined a mechanism for triggering earthquakes using super high-frequency microwave/radiowave fields.
Just saying...
The Luke
Well that settles it. It was definitely HARP.
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LOL... I love how people on getbig completely understand all the weapons technology our govt has to offer.
I mean, in a world where 11-year old girls are updating their facebook status with I-pods and we're using our cell phones to open our garage doors...
Surely the govt doesn't have any cool next-level shit we don't know about. I mean, if they did, they'd tell us. They have to - we elected them, right guys?
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LOL... I love how people on getbig completely understand all the weapons technology our govt has to offer.
I mean, in a world where 11-year old girls are updating their facebook status with I-pods and we're using our cell phones to open our garage doors...
Surely the govt doesn't have any cool next-level shit we don't know about. I mean, if they did, they'd tell us. They have to - we elected them, right guys?
So your entire argument is built around the assumption that the government may have a weapon that can cause earthquakes. Meanwhile, a valid argument that makes sense is probably wrong because the govt. may have a weapon. This board gets funnier by the day.
LOL... I love how people on getbig think the govt. is this big bad bully out to destroy the world and is full of people who have no problem killing hundreds of thousands to further their shadowy aims.
I think some people need to stop watching movies.
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The fuck are you talking about? This thread was never bumped by me, and certainly not four times over several days. This is about the fifth thread on the same topic. And each one is as ridiculous as the last.
Don't try to hang the fact that you control this board like a dictatorship around my neck, you pathetic fag.
And to top it off, The Luke's posts on this topic will be ignored by all you tinfoil hat wearing douche bags. Can't wait for thread #6 about this. ::)
remember what I said I would happen the next time you were caught in a pure lie? That didn't take you long. You did bump it several times and when nobody replied after your several bumps, I deleted your bumps and locked the topic. YOU LIE!
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remember what I said I would happen the next time you were caught in a pure lie? That didn't take you long. You did bump it several times and when nobody replied after your several bumps, I deleted your bumps and locked the topic. YOU LIE!
You lying piece of shit. I was talking with 240 in another thread. You deleted my posts in your fit of teenage angst. This thread was started at 12 am PST TODAY so unless I'm going back in time and bumping threads that haven't been started yet I think it's safe to say that I haven't been bumping anything over the course of several days. ::)
Move along you sniveling c*nt.
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I can't wait til we got one of these
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berserk, my argument is that the head of the cia, in 1997, said our enemies using earthquake technologo to attack america is a very serious threat.
that's some scary shit. Maybe the russians had it in 97, maybe someone else, but if the top intel guy in the nation assigns value to it, it is pretty real. I have no clue this harp stuff.... but i do believe that if the technology was real enough to consider it a real threat a decade ago, it's still around today.
I assign zero value to the venez president and his claims - but I do believe the technology is real.
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berserk, my argument is that the head of the cia, in 1997, said our enemies using earthquake technologo to attack america is a very serious threat.
that's some scary shit. Maybe the russians had it in 97, maybe someone else, but if the top intel guy in the nation assigns value to it, it is pretty real. I have no clue this harp stuff.... but i do believe that if the technology was real enough to consider it a real threat a decade ago, it's still around today.
I assign zero value to the venez president and his claims - but I do believe the technology is real.
Can you refute any of the luke's post? Or is it acceptable to just conjure up theories out of thin air?
The idea of an antennae in Alaska causing an earthquake is hilarious. Something out of a B-rate Hollywood movie.
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You lying piece of shit. I was talking with 240 in another thread. You deleted my posts in your fit of teenage angst. This thread was started at 12 am PST TODAY so unless I'm going back in time and bumping threads that haven't been started yet I think it's safe to say that I haven't been bumping anything over the course of several days. ::)
Move along you sniveling c*nt.
that's not the thread we were talking about you fucking liar and you know it. I didn't lock the thread you're talking about. we're posting now.... I deleted your lousy trolling efforts just like I'll be doing today and tomorrow and probably after that.
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I'm not addressing Luke's post.
The chief of the cia said 13 years ago that it's a very real threat to the USA.
As far as I'm concerned, there is no arguement beyond that. The shit is out there... somebody has it or he wouldn't have said it. I would'n't accuse harp or anone else of such a terrible crime against humanity - my only statement is that it's real. This comes not from me, but from a guy at the very top of the intel food chain - He knows his shit better than we do.
it'd be silly for use peons to argue something so far above our pay grade. NONE of us knows what the nations of the world can or can't do... to claim we know would be just plain asinine.
venez president is shitting his britches right now, sure. we just set up a lot of forces right across the street from him.
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I'm not addressing Luke's post.
The chief of the cia said 13 years ago that it's a very real threat to the USA.
As far as I'm concerned, there is no arguement beyond that. The shit is out there... somebody has it or he wouldn't have said it. I would'n't accuse harp or anone else of such a terrible crime against humanity - my only statement is that it's real. This comes not from me, but from a guy at the very top of the intel food chain - He knows his shit better than we do.
it'd be silly for use peons to argue something so far above our pay grade. NONE of us knows what the nations of the world can or can't do... to claim we know would be just plain asinine.
venez president is shitting his britches right now, sure. we just set up a lot of forces right across the street from him.
You do know that Puerto Rico is closer to Venezuela than Haiti is, right? You don't think the US would take advantage of the two or dozen or so bases that are closed (but still operable if needed) there should we go to war with Venezuela?
And I take it you're not refuting The Luke's post because you can't. It's ok. It will go ignored like any other logical post regarding this topic. ::)
Let's keep on the Hollywood path and claiming (without evidence) that an antennae in Alaska can cause earthquakes in the Caribbean.
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there's no point in arguing a point on a message board when it's long been established by the govt that the technology is real.
Of course, I can see arguing we could never intentionally do such a terrible act - and I agree with that. But denying the technology exists, when men of authority in our govt say it's real, it kinda like arguing Santa is real even after mom and dad tell you it was all a lie.
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there's no point in arguing a point on a message board when it's long been established by the govt that the technology is real.
Of course, I can see arguing we could never intentionally do such a terrible act - and I agree with that. But denying the technology exists, when men of authority in our govt say it's real, it kinda like arguing Santa is real even after mom and dad tell you it was all a lie.
Hahah, take the easy way out. The fact that the technology exists doesn't mean that it's able to cause an earthquake in Haiti. Is that hard for you to comprehend?
"the entire Yucatan area is sitting on shattered tectonic plates (geophys surveys have shown that the crust is fractured to a depth of 64 km), which of course is to be expected considering that this is where the asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs impacted, some 65 million years ago. (KT Boundary event)
So... even if you had a device that could trigger earthquakes... you couldn't use it anywhere in or around the Yucatan."
This seems to be refuted by everything I've read on this since he pointed that out. And I've yet to see it proven false by any of these HAARP nutcases. It's cool, though. We'll get people like Samson thumping their chest and making 5,000 word caps-locked filled posts that are devoid of anything close to evidence to wash it away.
I do enjoy how Russia and Venezuela have apparently become reliable sources of information. Anything to hang onto and prove a point, I suppose.
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i never said what happened in haiti was the result of any shady business. As far as I know, they sit on a fault and evreybody knew it was just a matter of time. I've said form post #1 that chavez is wrong, and that there is no evidence of any shady shit here.
however, when people here said 'this type of technology doesn't exist', then I saw the head of intel of the USA admitted 13 years ago that not only does it exist, but it's something our intelligence community worries very much about being used on the US of A, I had to point it out.
Either the technology exists, or the head of the cia was lying. me, I trust the guy (and his knowledge way above what we'll ever see) way more than I trust people on getbig arguing something is impossible based upon their college education. When one of the top minds in the world tells you a weaponized earthquake is a threat to america, then it's pretty obvious the shit exists.
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'The fact that the technology exists"
Hey, if you believe that... then were' on the same page. nothing to argue about.
i think the technology certainly existed 13 years ago, and it's probably a tad better today... and I also think it was NOT in use in haiti. Do I *suspect* the reason we had men and supplies ready to go in 12 hours ahead of time, is that our ion equipment smelled a natural earthquake coming, and we know a good opprtunity when we see it? A whole nother thread there.
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'The fact that the technology exists"
Hey, if you believe that... then were' on the same page. nothing to argue about.
i think the technology certainly existed 13 years ago, and it's probably a tad better today... and I also think it was NOT in use in haiti. Do I *suspect* the reason we had men and supplies ready to go in 12 hours ahead of time, is that our ion equipment smelled a natural earthquake coming, and we know a good opprtunity when we see it? A whole nother thread there.
I'm not saying I believe it or not. The CIA has postured before. It's very likely that they would leak something like that to SCARE people. Misinformation and scare tactics are something they excel at. So believing that it exists because the CIA admitted it is a little foolhardy.
And maybe the reason we had supplies ready to rock is because of the crapfest that occured after Katrina? Shocker that the govt. may have been more prepared for another natural disaster.
This is why these CTs are so idiotic. They hang onto the most minute detail (while ignoring or avoiding facts) to prove that they're real.
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can you list a single other example of the cia leaking a false weapons technology to scare people?
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can you list a single other example of the cia leaking a false weapons technology to scare people?
That's easy. Let me log into the CIA database and pull up some examples for you. ::)
Your entire argument hinges on the head of an organization whose biggest weapon is lying "admitting" that it exists. LOL.
This argument is pointless. Time to hit the bar, anyway.
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haha have fun.... i'm already a few merlot glasses to the wind and feeling fine
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can you list a single other example of the cia leaking a false weapons technology to scare people?
...Foo Fighters; UFOs; Y-bombs; Gay-bombs; weaponised botulism; weaponised bubonic plague; weaponised ebola; neutron bombs; Red Mercury; Nazi nuclear weaponry; Nazi radar-proof planes; nuclear pulse propulsion; electromagnetically-induced anti-grav propulsion; "Neuro-phone" intra-cranial sound-projection; LSD induced "Manchurian Candidate" brainwashing/brain-programming; hypnosis induced "Manchurian Candidate" brainwashing/brain-programming; sleep-inducing microwave cannons; vomit-inducing microwave cannons; diarrhea-inducing "Brown Noise" infrasound; pain-inducing super-high-frequency ultrasound; remote-viewing (they spent billions on this bullshit); remote-viewing spying; dowsing; Montauk project mind control research...
...all of these are examples of supposedly new and dangerous technologies which never panned out, but nonetheless were cited by agencies such as the CIA as clear and present dangers.
I could go on, but suffice it to say that military types have been citing the supposed threat posed by theoretical weapons technology since the Industrial Revolution.
It's a form of fund raising for these agencies. View the HAARP Project in this context.
The Luke
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Yeah....there's a difference between saying the enemy, in these cases, the Russians ...have a capablity or experimenting and saying they're a threat. Nobody ever said they were a threat. If the US spent money on remote viewers..who cares. Its a drop in the bucket compared to a Los Angeles class sub. Some of that crap, to include shit producing weapons..is a hell of alot better then dropping a 5000lbs JDAMS and having all u left wing nut bags whining.
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Yeah....there's a difference between saying the enemy, in these cases, the Russians ...have a capablity or experimenting and saying they're a threat. Nobody ever said they were a threat. If the US spent money on remote viewers..who cares. Its a drop in the bucket compared to a Los Angeles class sub. Some of that crap, to include shit producing weapons..is a hell of alot better then dropping a 5000lbs JDAMS and having all u left wing nut bags whining.
...actually, no.
The Pentagon and CIA spent billions on remote viewing (and have done so with many other such projects) despite being advised time and again by actual scientists that such spending was totally wasteful.
Funnily, it's warmonger morons such as yourself who react with irrational apoplexy whenever a dime is spent on any social program, yet you are blind to this type of waste.
Last year the American government spend as much on just the Banker Bailout and the military as it took in total tax revenues... every cent of real government spending was borrowed.
Next time you whine about taxes, remember, half of what you pay in taxes is military spending... of that half, half is simply wasted and three quarters (or more) is unnecessary.
The Luke
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...actually, no.
The Pentagon and CIA spent billions on remote viewing (and have done so with many other such projects) despite being advised time and again by actual scientists that such spending was totally wasteful.
Funnily, it's warmonger morons such as yourself who react with irrational apoplexy whenever a dime is spent on any social program, yet you are blind to this type of waste.
Last year the American government spend as much on just the Banker Bailout and the military as it took in total tax revenues... every cent of real government spending was borrowed.
Next time you whine about taxes, remember, half of what you pay in taxes is military spending... of that half, half is simply wasted and three quarters (or more) is unnecessary.
The Luke
The reality is you have no clue what the Pentagon or CIA is spending on projects. The most anybody not involved with the process can ascertain is the total amount of funds appropriated to all intelligence agencies.
In fact, you have no clue how many people work for the CIA, what their functions are, how much they are paid, and what, if any, perks they receive.
Further, it would be folly for intelligence agencies not to look at the efficacy of all potential threats and that takes time and money.
Scientists rarely talk in clear cut laymen terms. And, as such, if you are making an evaluation of a threat, you have to hire scientists to interpret, analyze, and make conclusions on the data. The hiring process alone can get pricey given the extensive background checks that have to be made.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there is no government waste. In fact, there's undoubtedly way too much. But throwing out baseless claims that we're blowing huge sums on this project or that project is just that - a baseless claim.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there is no government waste. In fact, there's undoubtedly way too much. But throwing out baseless claims that we're blowing huge sums on this project or that project is just that - a baseless claim.
...former CIA; NSA agents and Pentagon project managers have given extensive interviews (since the Remote Viewing projects have been declassified) explaining exactly how charlatans routinely fleeced moronic generals out of millions of dollars. Billions was spent in total.
Remember, Remote Viewing is the hiring of "psychics" who astrally project themselves to other countries in order to spy for America.
The Luke
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...former CIA; NSA agents and Pentagon project managers have given extensive interviews (since the Remote Viewing projects have been declassified) explaining exactly how charlatans routinely fleeced moronic generals out of millions of dollars. Billions was spent in total.
Remember, Remote Viewing is the hiring of "psychics" who astrally project themselves to other countries in order to spy for America.
The Luke
I wasn't referring to remote viewing per se, just threats in general.
And I've yet to see any credible proof on the amounts spent or invested by the CIA in any program. Just a hint...Youtube videos don't count as proof of fiscal appropriation.
The Skip
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I wasn't referring to remote viewing per se, just threats in general.
And I've yet to see any credible proof on the amounts spent or invested by the CIA in any program. Just a hint...Youtube videos don't count as proof of fiscal appropriation.
The Skip
Ha Ha
The 333386
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I wasn't referring to remote viewing per se, just threats in general.
And I've yet to see any credible proof on the amounts spent or invested by the CIA in any program. Just a hint...Youtube videos don't count as proof of fiscal appropriation.
...but you do accept that Remote Viewing was a total waste of billions of US tax payer dollars (all detailed in declassified documents) that is now part of the public record?
The Luke
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Jaguar Enterprises claims that remote viewing is very real and that she has even done it herself. :o
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...Foo Fighters; UFOs; Y-bombs; Gay-bombs; weaponised botulism; weaponised bubonic plague; weaponised ebola; neutron bombs; Red Mercury; Nazi nuclear weaponry; Nazi radar-proof planes; nuclear pulse propulsion; electromagnetically-induced anti-grav propulsion; "Neuro-phone" intra-cranial sound-projection; LSD induced "Manchurian Candidate" brainwashing/brain-programming; hypnosis induced "Manchurian Candidate" brainwashing/brain-programming; sleep-inducing microwave cannons; vomit-inducing microwave cannons; diarrhea-inducing "Brown Noise" infrasound; pain-inducing super-high-frequency ultrasound; remote-viewing (they spent billions on this bullshit); remote-viewing spying; dowsing; Montauk project mind control research...
...all of these are examples of supposedly new and dangerous technologies which never panned out, but nonetheless were cited by agencies such as the CIA as clear and present dangers.
I could go on, but suffice it to say that military types have been citing the supposed threat posed by theoretical weapons technology since the Industrial Revolution.
It's a form of fund raising for these agencies. View the HAARP Project in this context.
The Luke
Everything you mentioned on this list actually exists already and has been used in Iraq, Afghanistan, Panama etc. You honestly think the american government is going to invest the type of money it has in the military industrial complex and its off shoots without actually producing viable products? The beginning of these morbid inventions started with OPERATION PAPERCLIP: bringing German scientist to america to continue their research in everything from jet propulsion to mind control. After these scientist entered america there was an explosion of new products, ideas, inventions etc that raised america to the top of the class. Everything from the Jet Plane to missiles came into being from the Germans. MKULTRA now called DARPA or mind control came into being from the Germans and the Russians who also practiced remote viewing, psychotronics, telepathy etc. Pulse technology has brought you the transmission of sound into someones head by way of ultrasonic waves...The movie producers of PARANORMAL STATE used it to advertise their movie. Weaponized Ebola, Botulism, AIDS, Anthrax, Flu etc are all in existence...what do you think Plum Island, Ft. Detrick and similar places are all about...let's not forget the universities that are complicit in this as well. Sonic Cannons, Microwave cannons used to repel protesters are in use. These weapons are used on other nations, but will soon be used on americans as they learn of the plans of their government and protest, Holographic and projection technology has been thoroughly developed in PROJECT BLUEBEAM...you saw an example of it in Norway with the spiral.
Nonetheless denial of existence is exactly what the american military wishes you to do. It is less time for them battling exposure if you do not believe it exists and more time spent developing even worst weapons.
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Everything you mentioned on this list actually exists already and has been used in Iraq, Afghanistan, Panama etc. You honestly think the american government is going to invest the type of money it has in the military industrial complex and its off shoots without actually producing viable products? The beginning of these morbid inventions started with OPERATION PAPERCLIP: bringing German scientist to america to continue their research in everything from jet propulsion to mind control. After these scientist entered america there was an explosion of new products, ideas, inventions etc that raised america to the top of the class. Everything from the Jet Plane to missiles came into being from the Germans. MKULTRA now called DARPA or mind control came into being from the Germans and the Russians who also practiced remote viewing, psychotronics, telepathy etc. Pulse technology has brought you the transmission of sound into someones head by way of ultrasonic waves...The movie producers of PARANORMAL STATE used it to advertise their movie. Weaponized Ebola, Botulism, AIDS, Anthrax, Flu etc are all in existence...what do you think Plum Island, Ft. Detrick and similar places are all about...let's not forget the universities that are complicit in this as well. Sonic Cannons, Microwave cannons used to repel protesters are in use. These weapons are used on other nations, but will soon be used on americans as they learn of the plans of their government and protest, Holographic and projection technology has been thoroughly developed in PROJECT BLUEBEAM...you saw an example of it in Norway with the spiral.
Nonetheless denial of existence is exactly what the american military wishes you to do. It is less time for them battling exposure if you do not believe it exists and more time spent developing even worst weapons.
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