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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: MrUniverse on February 08, 2010, 09:34:51 AM
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I really like his phsique,its what I strive for
But once agian,why is his trainer an elderly woman?
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She is a good trainer in Holland she trains alot of bodybuilders.
Her nickname is grandma.
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how can you strive for something you dont have the genes for?
triceps are fucking sick.
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Well I hardly wouldve thought her nickname was 'teen girl'
But however,fuck it,her training is obviously good going but Roellys physique
Hopefully he will do well as I think hes fairly cool and as I said above I hope to have a physique like him in 14months
Sorry,15months
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how can you strive for something you dont have the genes for?
triceps are fucking sick.
Yeah my triceps are awful
But I have to have something to aim for dont I?
Besides being the Worlds most hansome millionaire ;D
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you already look good okami you muscle hunk.
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Good physique - he should do well.
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Great physique. Now that rapper, his flow was weak as hell. He was suppose to be somebody because he was named after a prophet in the bible. Oh brother. He actually was distracting.
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conditionning is a bit behind
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conditionning is a bit behind
He looks great, but I was thinking the same thing.
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conditionning is a bit behind
Yup for 4 weeks out he's still carying a bit of fat and loaded up with a ton of water, we'll see if he dries out. I've never really seen him come in super conditioned and he's going to have to hit that if he wants to be competitive as a pro.
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conditionning is a bit behind
i think genetically he has very thick skin, hence the blurry conditioning..
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that guy is really big, he looks like he could kill somebody
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stupid belly tattoo just kills it right there...
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She is a good trainer in Holland she trains alot of bodybuilders.
Her nickname is grandma.
It is things like this one of the grandma that make lots of people think that bodybuilding is a joke...
This guys still keep it look like something harcore
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that Dutch woman is Berry de meys mother
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Hes a fukin beast, but with that conditioning he'll be dead last!! :(
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He should drop all these fancy exersices ::) and stick to the basic known exersices....
i mean look at the dumbell rows in the videos.. ::)...wtf is the point of "twisting" them at the end, useless. Just pull it straight. its simple biomechanics.
but what do i know
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Hes a fukin beast, but with that conditioning he'll be dead fast!! :(
:'(
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I really like his phsique,its what I strive for
But once agian,why is his trainer an elderly woman?
Okami
You can hear this superb trainer (called Grandma) diss Jay Cutler at around 21:25 here! :D
http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/fec3fba32f4401a45fb2/Roelly-Winklaar-Road-to-the-AC-Pro-Audio-Edition-Part-1-Legs (http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/fec3fba32f4401a45fb2/Roelly-Winklaar-Road-to-the-AC-Pro-Audio-Edition-Part-1-Legs)
Any questions you might have about her will probably be explained in that clip.
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Okami
You can hear this superb trainer (called Grandma) diss Jay Cutler at around 21:25 here! :D
http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/fec3fba32f4401a45fb2/Roelly-Winklaar-Road-to-the-AC-Pro-Audio-Edition-Part-1-Legs (http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/fec3fba32f4401a45fb2/Roelly-Winklaar-Road-to-the-AC-Pro-Audio-Edition-Part-1-Legs)
Any questions you might have about her will probably be explained in that clip.
thanks for the link, good quality and fast loading, these morons at md can learn something from them.
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stan efferding is gorgeous :o
those piercing blue eyes, gaunt face and hyper-muscular body make me giddy
no homo
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Okami
You can hear this superb trainer (called Grandma) diss Jay Cutler at around 21:25 here! :D
http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/fec3fba32f4401a45fb2/Roelly-Winklaar-Road-to-the-AC-Pro-Audio-Edition-Part-1-Legs (http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/fec3fba32f4401a45fb2/Roelly-Winklaar-Road-to-the-AC-Pro-Audio-Edition-Part-1-Legs)
Any questions you might have about her will probably be explained in that clip.
why is she "dissing" Jay? Jay is 3x Mr. Olympia while roelly hasnt even stepped on a pro stage. ::)
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Very thick round back. Just no words.
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thanks for the link, good quality and fast loading, these morons at md can learn something from them.
ive said that before...these videos are 1000 times better quality wise than the MD ones and they load in no time. MD should take notes.
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I really like his phsique,its what I strive for
But once agian,why is his trainer an elderly woman?
No bro, you don't want that homo tatt on the bloated bodybuilder belly now do you?
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It is things like this one of the grandma that make lots of people think that bodybuilding is a joke...
This guys still keep it look like something harcore
Stan is strong as fuck butt he won't make damage on stage, with the exception for a master championship
'harcore' ain't hardcore ;)
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Stan is strong as fuck butt he won't make damage on stage, with the exception for a master championship
'harcore' ain't hardcore ;)
people said Jay would never pro
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why is she "dissing" Jay? Jay is 3x Mr. Olympia while roelly hasnt even stepped on a pro stage. ::)
Exactly, let his physique do the talking
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No bro, you don't want that homo tatt on the bloated bodybuilder belly now do you?
Thats his son's name.
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people said Jay would never pro
Comparing Jay with Stan is an apples-oranges thing. Apart from that, Stan is too old to make the necessary adjustments. He has more the build of a powerlifter with his overpowered chest & delts
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A 60 yrs old-nobody, wannabe "charles glass" bitch, dissing a 3x time Mr. Olympia and millionare Jay Cutler. ::)
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don't worry about Jay he always has his hata blockas
(http://www.jaycutler.com/images/sunglassses.jpg)
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i think genetically he has very thick skin, hence the blurry conditioning..
Plus he has only done a handful of shows AFAIK.
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ive said that before...these videos are 1000 times better quality wise than the MD ones and they load in no time. MD should take notes.
yeah quality is very good.
they should throw the md crew from a church.
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He should drop all these fancy exersices ::)
but what do i know
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A 60 yrs old-nobody, wannabe "charles glass" bitch, dissing a 3x time Mr. Olympia and millionare Jay Cutler. ::)
So it is not my favorite,its my meaning,I gave my opinion.
but my mom gave me an education,stay polite to people, >:(I can not tell that about you :o
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conditionning is a bit behind
a little bit
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ive said that before...these videos are 1000 times better quality wise than the MD ones and they load in no time. MD should take notes.
Flexonline videos are worse, lol
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Everyone should have a "Grandma"-trainer like Sibil! (exceptional at 53!)
Clearly it works well and adds quite a lot of quality-muscle!
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Stan is strong as fuck butt he won't make damage on stage, with the exception for a master championship
'harcore' ain't hardcore ;)
To which "butt" are you referring?
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(http://www.anabolicdaily.com/pics/bb/roelly/r7.jpg)
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Needs a back, leg biceps & calves.
Check out 1:40
THE BEEF
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He should drop all these fancy exersices ::)
but what do i know
@ SIBIL: What exercises did you let him do for his upper chest sibil? And how many times a week did he train upper chest?
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Needs a back, leg biceps & calves.
Check out 1:40
THE BEEF
Nice....a video that was shot almost a year ago, but yeah, he definitely needs a back.
(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/wettkampf/Roelly%20Winklaar%20Back%20Tri%20Bi/Roelly_Quincy_%2870%29.JPG)
:P
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Guru Granny
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To which "butt" are you referring?
The fact you notice that proves you're gay ;)
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So it is not my favorite,its my meaning,I gave my opinion.
but my mom gave me an education,stay polite to people, >:(I can not tell that about you :o
A little GB education Sibil, most posters have an opinion on everything, esp on things they know a shit about (damn, that includes me ;D )
In Dutch "grote mond, klein hartje" ;)
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Guru Granny
she should stick on doing the dishes.
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this guy isnt going to do shit at the arnold..
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I think he won't even make top 10. Terrible hamstrings.
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He is history!
FINISHED!
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I really like his phsique,its what I strive for
But once agian,why is his trainer an elderly woman?
i dont see the problem. theres plenty of idiot less than average pro BB's and pro PTs that are young and spend all their days looking at themselves that get paid to train others and dont have a proper scientific background or the right psych.
maybe "grandma" has the perfect blend?
seems to be popular enough.
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I think he won't even make top 10. Terrible hamstrings.
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Sibil, could you please post close-up pictures of Roelly's glutes so we can judge them more closely? :P
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GURU Granny.
THE BEEF
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Nice....a video that was shot almost a year ago, but yeah, he definitely needs a back.
(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/wettkampf/Roelly%20Winklaar%20Back%20Tri%20Bi/Roelly_Quincy_%2870%29.JPG)
:P
Let THE BEEF make it more clear . . . needs lats. Not a pro level back!
Is that OK, Rolley ;)
THE BEEF
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Needs a back, leg biceps & calves.
Check out 1:40
THE BEEF
oke i will work on all these points
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she should stick on doing the dishes.
:Di got a machine for that ;)
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Let THE BEEF make it more clear . . . needs lats. Not a pro level back!
Is that OK, Rolley ;)
THE BEEF
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/7992/2/d/img_00131254028554.jpg)
A back like that apparently is good enough to be runner up at the Olympia. :P
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:Di got a machine for that ;)
LOL! Sibil is HILARIOUS! :D
Good comebacks Grandma! :)
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dude is stacked,,he has time to bring up some parts ,big dude and good shape too boot..
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(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/7992/2/d/img_00131254028554.jpg)
A back like that apparently is good enough to be runner up at the Olympia. :P
Not the best back in the bizz but Branch's chest, legs & conditioning are way better than Roellie
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Not the best back in the bizz but Branch's chest, legs & conditioning are way better than Roellie
Thanks for pointing out the obvious. My point was that someone said Roelly doesn't have a pro-level back, well neither does Branch. So how big of a deal is it really? Dude's going to step on the pro stage for the first time and has nothing to lose since pretty much everyone else on that stage (except Tarek) has competed at the Olympia multiple times. Hell, I think most of them have had a top 10 placing at the O at one point.
Roelly has many years ahead of him and I'm sure he'll make lots of improvements in the years to come. But you know, as soon as some people start saying positive things about someone, others have to bring on the negativity.
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Thanks for pointing out the obvious. My point was that someone said Roelly doesn't have a pro-level back, well neither does Branch. So how big of a deal is it really? Dude's going to step on the pro stage for the first time and has nothing to lose since pretty much everyone else on that stage (except Tarek) has competed at the Olympia multiple times. Hell, I think most of them have had a top 10 placing at the O at one point.
Roelly has many years ahead of him and I'm sure he'll make lots of improvements in the years to come. But you know, as soon as some people start saying positive things about someone, others have to bring on the negativity.
Good post.
I've already mentioned his lacks (overpowered arms & delts and conditioning issues) but that being said I won't consider myself as a negative person or hater. Roellie has enormous potential, esp when you consider the short time frame he's training, but this years Arnold I don't expect he will do damage. Next year could be a different story.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=319367.0;attach=359120;image)
a little bit
whos that natural next to him?
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whos that natural next to him?
Sietze Lebbing
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=319367.0;attach=359120;image)
if granny gets this guy cut...since he's compact n muscled like shawn ray...he should be able to take a smaller show or two. no depth in the pro ranks at the moment. cant believe no is taking ed nunn under his wings. he got ronnie coleman written all over him. i like roelly better than the carebear lookin dude from england.
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damn i also need some veins on my lats.
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damn i also need some veins on my lats.
kale greens will bring them out.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=319367.0;attach=359735;image)
Tell him not to wear a orange thong at the AC ;D
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this guy isnt going to do shit at the arnold..
Not with that hideous tatt on the front of his abdominal wall.
We should all chip in a few dimes and get a fund together to pay for him to get rid of it.
Tatts belong on felons, crims in jail, not on guys displaying the best genetics on the planet.
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Not with that hideous tatt on the front of his abdominal wall.
We should all chip in a few dimes and get a fund together to pay for him to get rid of it.
Tatts belong on felons, crims in jail, not on guys displaying the best genetics on the planet.
i think the tattoo looks cool!
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i think the tattoo looks cool!
People could be "cool", tats or other signs never.
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He just needs to come in shredded to make an impression. Anything less and he'll get lost in the line up.
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He made big improvements in those couple of months! I'm looking forward to seeing him on stage next to the top level guys. Great work granny! Too bad you don't answer the serious questions we ask you :-\
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Too bad you don't answer the serious questions we ask you :-\
Where????????????
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Too bad you don't answer the serious questions we ask you :-\
Where????????????
They don't understand that pics could speak for themselves ;)
Hows Roellie doing these days?
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oke i will work on all these points
LFZ . . . Lat Free Zone.
To even suggest this guy as a pro level back is foolish. And his calves are sub-par.
THE BEEF
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How much lower do you want his back in that LFZ and is it genetically feasable to lower that insertion point?
Calves subpar? Ronnie Coleman won 8 Sandows with worse calves then Roelly and Dex won 2 Sandows. JOJ won some pro shows and so did Melvin Anthony and Dennis Wolf.
Roelly's calves are better then all these guys' calves.
Did Branch place 2nd at the O because of his calves or because of his back?
So: do calves really matter in your criticism/opinion?
It would make him more complete yes ofcourse, but then I would complain more about his chest thickness or posing skills/presentation then a LFZ or subpar calves...
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Too bad you don't answer the serious questions we ask you :-\
Where????????????
@ SIBIL: What exercises did you let him do for his upper chest sibil? And how many times a week did he train upper chest/ or chest in general?
This one sibil.
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Why all the negativity! You can't go around the fact that this guy is talented. If you only look at the improvements he made in this past year alone! Off course it's not all him but also his coach and trainer sibil how obviously know how to stimulate his body the right way.
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How much lower do you want his back in that LFZ and is it genetically feasable to lower that insertion point?
Exactly, it's barely possible to improve this area relatively from the whole back development. Compared to Dennis James & Dexter Jackson he has good overall back thickness. I also notice improvements in the width of his back since his AC amateurs win.
Comparison material:
Dennis
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/7992/189/d/img_25011253953901.jpg)
Dexter
(http://images.tmuscle.com/forum_images/c/1/c1e17-Dexter_Jackson_Back2.jpg)
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Who the fuck is this?
THE BEEF
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Who the fuck is this?
THE BEEF
Dennis @ the 09 'O
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/7992/189/d/img_24921253953900.jpg)
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How much lower do you want his back in that LFZ and is it genetically feasable to lower that insertion point?
Calves subpar? Ronnie Coleman won 8 Sandows with worse calves then Roelly and Dex won 2 Sandows. JOJ won some pro shows and so did Melvin Anthony and Dennis Wolf.
Roelly's calves are better then all these guys' calves.
Did Branch place 2nd at the O because of his calves or because of his back?
So: do calves really matter in your criticism/opinion?
It would make him more complete yes ofcourse, but then I would complain more about his chest thickness or posing skills/presentation then a LFZ or subpar calves...
Please recheck your facts.
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2 times a week diffrents exercise
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bench press
dead press(bench press by the throat elbows slightly turned inwards)
incline press with dumbells
flyes flat (head of the bench back over hanging)
small press
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incline machine (hammerstrenght)wide -hands horizontally /small-hands vertically
dead press
flyes low hand (look to the video)or cable cross
small bench press
dips
i hoop it is a little bit to read
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Dennis @ the 09 'O
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/7992/189/d/img_24921253953900.jpg)
Sheesh, did James even diet for the competition...
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Sheesh, did James even diet for the competition...
you shoulda seen him in the parking lot before the show. ;D
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Haha oma, je engels gaat wel vooruit zo!
When you mention small press I assume you mean NG (narrow grip) press.
What area are you targeting with this grip?
(Waarom doet Roelly smallpress, voor welk gebied van zijn borst?)
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Please recheck your facts.
So Dex won 1 instead of 2 Sandows. I dearly apologise for this huge error.
Did that throw you off from the geste of my post that bad? ::)
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Sheesh, did James even diet for the competition...
Looks like Dave "the turd" Palumbo was his prep "guru"
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2 times a week diffrents exercise
1
bench press
dead press(bench press by the throat elbows slightly turned inwards)
incline press with dumbells
flyes flat (head of the bench back over hanging)
small press
2
incline machine (hammerstrenght)wide -hands horizontally /small-hands vertically
dead press
flyes low hand (look to the video)or cable cross
small bench press
dips
i hoop it is a little bit to read
Thanks for your answer sibil! I understand it perfectly, i know a little Dutch too. I'll try to implement these exercises to the best of my ability, and hope that my chest also comes up like Roelly's did.
How is the big guy doing these last days?
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Please recheck your facts.
His facts were sound. Apart from the Dex 2 Olympias thing. Doe sthat change the point? Does Dex not have a pro level back cos he only won the O once?! Are calves now a deciding factor because Dex only won the o once?
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Haha oma, je engels gaat wel vooruit zo!
When you mention small press I assume you mean NG (narrow grip) press.
What area are you targeting with this grip?
(Waarom doet Roelly smallpress, voor welk gebied van zijn borst?)
never to old to learn but is difficult :P
inner chest
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2 times a week diffrents exercise
1
bench press
dead press(bench press by the throat elbows slightly turned inwards)
incline press with dumbells
flyes flat (head of the bench back over hanging)
small press
2
incline machine (hammerstrenght)wide -hands horizontally /small-hands vertically
dead press
flyes low hand (look to the video)or cable cross
small bench press
dips
i hoop it is a little bit to read
Interesting choose of exercises and good variation I see. Does Roellie also trains this way during his offseason?
A suggestion. Lying cable presses with a double small cable pulley (http://us.commercial.lifefitness.com/resources/category/1/0/2/4/images/full.LFSTRENGTH.cablemotion.dualadjustablepulley11.jpg) burns my inner chest to the max.
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I was waiting for you to say that word "inner" chest....
Droppingplates and Sibil: the whole dutch community should be attacking you for mentioning the word "inner chest"
Milos, Charles Glass and Chris Thib got ridiculed for years for saying "inner chest", but the dutch internet guys know that that doesn't exist in science.
Some words of advise for Sibil, Milos, Charles and Christian, now that supertrainer oma is also using "inner" chest exercises, people?
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A suggestion. Lying cable presses with a double small cable pulley (http://us.commercial.lifefitness.com/resources/category/1/0/2/4/images/full.LFSTRENGTH.cablemotion.dualadjustablepulley11.jpg) burns my inner chest to the max.
Ever tried Thibs cable/dbell presses? Exercise C of all 3 schedules (especially C from the first schedule):
http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/hss100_chest_specialization
Oma, ideetje voor Roelly?
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all pine and small press
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LFZ . . . Lat Free Zone.
To even suggest this guy as a pro level back is foolish. And his calves are sub-par.
THE BEEF
His back is better than the current Mr. Olympia, Nasser's, and a boatload of other "Pros".
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I was waiting for you to say that word "inner" chest....
Droppingplates and Sibil: the whole dutch community should be attacking you for mentioning the word "inner chest"
Milos, Charles Glass and Chris Thib got ridiculed for years for saying "inner chest", but the dutch internet guys know that that doesn't exist in science.
Some words of advise for Sibil, Milos, Charles and Christian, now that supertrainer oma is also using "inner" chest exercises, people?
Anatomy-wise I agree that there isn't something like a "inner chest" muscle, but only the Pectoralis Major & Minor. But from my own experience I can tell you that performing a press or fly with a lockout wider than the delts results in more pain in the outer zone (pec minor) while a machine flye, small grip barbell/dumbell/cable press with a lockout above the center of the chest results in more pain in the inner area of the chest.
BTW, I have no connections with the Dutch BB community since thats full of trash people ;)
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Ever tried Thibs cable/dbell presses? Exercise C of all 3 schedules (especially C from the first schedule):
http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/hss100_chest_specialization
Oma, ideetje voor Roelly?
Hey, thats a interesting one. An exercise like this could give gravity(dumbells) & a squeeze effect(cables). T-nation has a lot of interesting articles, haven't been there for a while.
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BTW, I have no connections with the Dutch BB community since thats full of trash people ;)
Haha, not all are bad.
What gets to me is that when Milos, Charles Glass, Chris Thib or somebody else writes/speaks about inner chest they want to see a source and proof it and this and that and they come with 200 research documents to proof their point that it's not possible.
But when one of their gurus (Rinus, oma) brings forward a giant like Roelly then the same inner chest exercise is gold!!
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Hey, thats a interesting one. An exercise like this could give gravity(dumbells) & a squeeze effect(cables). T-nation has a lot of interesting articles, haven't been there for a while.
Because the weight of the cables keep pulling your arms outward your pecs are tensed all the time, no time/position to rest/relax on the top of the movement.
It's a killer for true!
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And his calves are sub-par.
Calves subpar? Ronnie Coleman won 8 Sandows with worse calves then Roelly and Dex won 1 Sandow. JOJ won some pro shows and so did Melvin Anthony and Dennis Wolf.
Roelly's calves are better then all these guys' calves.
Did Branch place 2nd at the O because of his calves or because of his back?
So: do calves really matter in your criticism/opinion?
Melvin won last night. No complaints about his calves?
Still think Roelly's calves are not good enough?
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Haha, not all are bad.
Well that's fortunately true, but as a "gym rat" & formal trainer/show visitor I see a lot of dumb, rude & narcissistic people in this subculture; not my cup of tea ;)
What gets to me is that when Milos, Charles Glass, Chris Thib or somebody else writes/speaks about inner chest they want to see a source and proof it and this and that and they come with 200 research documents to proof their point that it's not possible.
But when one of their gurus (Rinus, oma) brings forward a giant like Roelly then the same inner chest exercise is gold!!
From my observations, I think the Dutch (or maybe European) style is more practical based (read: amateuristic) while the US style is more scientific based (read: professional). Most gym visitors over here are both mental and physical lazy. They want a training/diet schedule that "works" (whatever you define that) and don't care about the rationale behind it :-\
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Interesting choose of exercises and good variation I see. Does Roellie also trains this way during his offseason?
A suggestion. Lying cable presses with a double small cable pulley (http://us.commercial.lifefitness.com/resources/category/1/0/2/4/images/full.LFSTRENGTH.cablemotion.dualadjustablepulley11.jpg) burns my inner chest to the max.
offseason he has diffrent exercise
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offseason he has diffrent exercise
roelly ziet er goed uit 2 weeks out, verwacht je dat ie in top 10 komt als je vergelijkt met concurrentie?
weet niet wie allemala meedoet maar top 6 moet kunnen. klopt t dat roelly in 2003 is begonnen met trainen?
zijn er fotos hoe die eruit zag voor ie begon te trainen, wel veel spieren in maar 7 jaar.
hoe ziet de cycle eruit? bedankt oma
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Oma gaat echt geen cycles hier neerzetten Mariachi, vooral niet op deze site.
Zelf denk ik dat als de jury naar lichamen gaat kijken ipv namen dat een top 5 in zijn pro debuut in een show van zulk hoog caliber er in moet zitten, MITS hij zijn presentatie voor elkaar heeft want dat laat nog steeds te wensen over.
Ik had hem uitgenodigd om naar Aruba te komen toen Milos daar was begin september maar hij liet niets van zich horen. Had een goede school voor zijn poseren kunnen zijn, maar meneer is een beetje koppig
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Lichtelijk naief om een kuurschema te vragen via het web ::)
Ik verwacht dat Roellie net binnen of buiten de top10 zal vallen. Zijn rug is zeker beter geworden (lees: meer wijdte), maar qua proporties staan er straks betere deelnemers dan hem op de AC. Had hij aan de Phoenix Pro deelgenomen dan zat een top6 plaats er zeker in.
Deed Milos een seminar? Wat vind je van zijn kennis?
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looks like a bodybuilder.
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WOW :o
(tell him not to look so constipated ;) )
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he's just another big guy. reality will set in for him at pre-judging ;)
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he's just another big guy. reality will set in for him at pre-judging ;)
How do you know he's out of touch with reality? ???
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Why all the negativity! You can't go around the fact that this guy is talented. If you only look at the improvements he made in this past year alone! Off course it's not all him but also his coach and trainer sibil how obviously know how to stimulate his body the right way.
;D
Hahahaha... this clearly gives away who is behind `Trainingon` - i see we are trying to shill his coach and `sibil` and give them some exposure huh ;D Aww , what happened Roelly stealing the spotlight ??
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(tell him not to look so constipated ;) )
Nou nou, Jay kan er ook wat van hoor...allemaal trouwens!
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Ik verwacht dat Roellie net binnen of buiten de top10 zal vallen.
Hij verdiend zeker hoger geplaatst te worden.
Zou mooi zijn als de jury hem een "Gustavo 2004" look geven en hem plaatsen waar hij hoort.
Zijn rug is zeker beter geworden (lees: meer wijdte), maar qua proporties staan er straks betere deelnemers dan hem op de AC.
Dikkere borst, dikkere hams en betere presentatie gooien hem enkele plaatsen hoger.
Hij heeft nog tijd genoeg. Begint niet lang geleden serieus te trainen (Sibil) en dit wordt pas zijn 1e pro vertoning, dus geef de man en Sibil wat tijd)
Had hij aan de Phoenix Pro deelgenomen dan zat een top6 plaats er zeker in.
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Deed Milos een seminar? Wat vind je van zijn kennis?
Ja Milos gaf een seminar in Aruba in september.
Zijn kennis is ongehoord. Je moet eens met hem kletsen om te weten waar ik het over heb. Je vraag wordt tot in detail beantwoord door hem.
Ik ken Milos nu 7 jaar en heb enkele keren bij hem gelogeerd in Fullerton en Temecula, dus het is niet even een 2 uur seminar indruk die ik van hem heb.
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Dikkere borst, dikkere hams en betere presentatie gooien hem enkele plaatsen hoger.
Hij heeft nog tijd genoeg. Begint niet lang geleden serieus te trainen (Sibil) en dit wordt pas zijn 1e pro vertoning, dus geef de man en Sibil wat tijd)
Ik zie duidelijk progressie bij hem, vergeleken met vorig jaar. Als team "roesibilly" de drive behoudt, dan verwacht ik dat 2011 het jaar gaat worden.
Ja Milos gaf een seminar in Aruba in september.
Zijn kennis is ongehoord. Je moet eens met hem kletsen om te weten waar ik het over heb. Je vraag wordt tot in detail beantwoord door hem.
Ik ken Milos nu 7 jaar en heb enkele keren bij hem gelogeerd in Fullerton en Temecula, dus het is niet even een 2 uur seminar indruk die ik van hem heb.
Eindelijk iemand hier op GB die positief is over hem, maar jij hebt in elk geval recht van spreken ;) Ik vind zijn giant sets stijl met strikte vorm & veel reps wel interessant. Die stijl zie ik ook aardig terug wanneer Sibil Roellie traint.
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What did you mean with:
" flyes flat (head of the bench back over hanging"?
And do you train only chest on these 2 days? Or do you combine the chest with other muscles on that day?
2 times a week diffrents exercise
1
bench press
dead press(bench press by the throat elbows slightly turned inwards)
incline press with dumbells
flyes flat (head of the bench back over hanging)
small press
2
incline machine (hammerstrenght)wide -hands horizontally /small-hands vertically
dead press
flyes low hand (look to the video)or cable cross
small bench press
dips
i hoop it is a little bit to read
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What did you mean with:
" flyes flat (head of the bench back over hanging"?
Lying on a flat bench with your head not on top of the bench surface but outside/above it.
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Thanks, update please!
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You can tell dude isn't doing shrugs at the proper angle. This will cost him 4 Olympia titles.
Something wrong with his traps ???
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2 times a week diffrents exercise
1
bench press
dead press(bench press by the throat elbows slightly turned inwards)
incline press with dumbells
flyes flat (head of the bench back over hanging)
small press
2
incline machine (hammerstrenght)wide -hands horizontally /small-hands vertically
dead press
flyes low hand (look to the video)or cable cross
small bench press
dips
i hoop it is a little bit to read
you do realize that doing that many different exercises doesnt really do anything in terms of 'shaping' the chest. just a waste of time.
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you do realize that doing that many different exercises doesnt really do anything in terms of 'shaping' the chest. just a waste of time.
a little harsh???
so you only 10 sets of bench press and head for the showers??
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a little harsh???
so you only 10 sets of bench press and head for the showers??
did i say that? but yeah, there is no need for more than 2 exercises for chest during a workout. one flat and one incline movement ..and you don't even have to do the two in the same workout.
as for training volume...10 sets is right at the limit of too much...(at least for a natural)...4-8 sets is a good range for most people.
the chest workout he is doing is the usually bodybuilding bs routine...wasting his time doing excessive volume (drug use lets him get away with it tho) and alot of unecessary exercises.
the training is mindless. this grandma seems to like to make up a bunch of useless vodoo exercises. maybe inspired by milos?
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Can you show me what a physique looks like when doing 4-8 sets performing 1 exercise for a muscle?
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(http://www.bodyresource.nl/forum/attachments/pro-corner/16784d1267749881-roelly-winklaar-road-arnold-classic-pro-img_0083.jpg)
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Steve better don't fuck with them Anti's, I know they don't like polskibras!!
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Steve better don't fuck with them Anti's, I know they don't like polskibras!!
Steve is no such a thing! >:(
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Steve is no such a thing! >:(
Even worse, that nipple butterfly/schmoe is bi :-X
I would refuse to be on a picture with him