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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: regmac on February 25, 2010, 06:51:38 PM
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Iron Mike retired upset he placed a controverial 4th behind Shawn, LaBrada and Haney. He felt he was up there with the Awsome one. Mike may be able to say he (like Wheeler, Ray, Gaspari, and Levrone) as a guy who COULD have been Mr. O. Anyone agree.
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He was a cool dude but his legs never matched his upper body.
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Iron Mike retired upset he placed a controverial 4th behind Shawn, LaBrada and Haney. He felt he was up there with the Awsome one. Mike may be able to say he (like Wheeler, Ray, Gaspari, and Levrone) as a guy who COULD have been Mr. O. Anyone agree.
Mike was good, but he shouldn't be mentioned with he likes of Flex and Shawn.
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He was a cool dude but his legs never matched his upper body.
For a tall guy, that's mormal. But they weren't too skinny, he won a lot of titles. Nice guy too....the drugs just got to him. I still remember seeing him at Golds Venice curl 120 dumbells like nothing!
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For a tall guy, that's mormal. But they weren't too skinny, he won a lot of titles. Nice guy too....the drugs just got to him. I still remember seeing him at Golds Venice curl 120 dumbells like nothing!
All around great guy he just got into the narcotics which was his end.
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I believe he basically quit because he got hooked on nubain
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I believe he basically quit because he got hooked on nubain
and coke, and probably a zillion other things...yet he owned a great company Platinum Everywear!
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Mike had great lines and shape and also had height, strong guy too. That alone puts him above Shawn and flex.
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Shawn Ray was better.
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Mike was good, but he shouldn't be mentioned with he likes of Flex and Shawn.
I think so, he was just as good. And taller.
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Mike had great lines and shape and also had height, strong guy too. That alone puts him above Shawn and flex.
Thank you, point well taken.
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Shawn Ray was better.
Had he stayed till 92....Mike may have had the freakness to beat Yates.
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Whoa! Are you guys saying Mike Christian is better than Flex? Whether head on or just for their times, no fukin way
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Shawn Ray, not even close. Too many flaws on Mike
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Shawn Ray, not even close. Too many flaws on Mike
Only in the legs he was wider than Shawn but I like the opinions coming.
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Only in the legs he was wider than Shawn but I like the opinions coming.
He was bigger than Shawn, if you took a tape measure and measured both around the shoulders he was. As far as the illusion created onstage, Shawn was wider or should i say appeared be much wider
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If any of you guys could get your hands on the Bill Phillips audio tapes that he recording around 1992, you would find more about this thread? The late Dan D. was working a little with Christian for the drug tested 90 Mr. O. The interview was recorded from Dan's prison at the time and was great.
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He was bigger than Shawn, if you took a tape measure and measured both around the shoulders he was. As far as the illusion created onstage, Shawn was wider or should i say appeared be much wider
Not but it IS safe to say Shawn had a more pleasing physique. But his back wasn't fully developed that year. I remember his rear lat spread had no lats to spread.
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great build on Christian.. 8)
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great build on Christian.. 8)
The Iron Warrior!!!!
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shawn ray is a stand up short little man...yes, he has a big mouth
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although Mike was good in 1990 at the O, his lower body never caught up with his awesome arms, back and chest.
shawn on the other hand, was nearly perfect, except for lat width and natural stature.
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shawn ray is a stand up short little man...yes, he has a big mouth
So is Mayweather, TO, Ochocinco, Rodman, Regmac, Sean Avery, Deion, Irvin,Shaq, Mark Cuban, Richard Williams, Chris Tucker, Chris Rock, etc etc.
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although Mike was good in 1990 at the O, his lower body never caught up with his awesome arms, back and chest.
shawn on the other hand, was nearly perfect, except for lat width and natural stature.
troll, you use the reference 'nearly perfect'....lol
calling a midget 'nearly perfect' is hilarious
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I remember he made a comeback in the mid 90's...He was in the magazines saying he was weighing 265 pounds at 6'1" and was going to cause some serious damage. I think it was Rich Gaspari that motivated to do so, but that never came to be.
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shawn ray is a stand up short little man...yes, he has a big mouth
And clearly so do you ::) ::) ::) ::)
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I think so, he was just as good. And taller.
Reg, I respect you and all, but to mak such a comment...I hope you dine on rotten elephant assholes.
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And clearly so do you ::) ::) ::) ::)
back off you stalking troll. your behaviour is quite scary...now scram you toolshed loser
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although Mike was good in 1990 at the O, his lower body never caught up with his awesome arms, back and chest.
shawn on the other hand, was nearly perfect, except for lat width and natural stature.
He also lacked width and had funky quads. Although overall he did have a very pleasing physique aesthetically, certainly a lot better than Dorian or Ronnie.
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He also lacked width and had funky quads. Although overall he did have a very pleasing physique aesthetically, certainly a lot better than Dorian or Ronnie.
I don't really agree with him being more aesthetic than either of them tbh, unless like Branch Warren you equate aestheticness with smallness, in which case yes Mike Christian is more aesthetic. He had half the muscular thickness of either Dorian or Ronnie so he was less dense and less muscular, with much smaller legs than both and Shawn Ray also. I think Shawn is the best of the bunch aesthetically. I dunno, it all depends what year you're comparing it to.
(http://www.ifbb.com/images/hf05/mikechristian2.jpg)
(http://www.dorianyates.net/dorian/site/images/STYLES/dorianyates/images/gallery/images/dy177.jpg)
(http://www.thebiguniverse.com/coleman/aabn0450.jpg)
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I don't really agree with him being more aesthetic than either of them tbh, unless like Branch Warren you equate aestheticness with smallness, in which case yes Mike Christian is more aesthetic. He had half the muscular thickness of either Dorian or Ronnie so he was less dense and less muscular, with much smaller legs than both and Shawn Ray also. I think Shawn is the best of the bunch aesthetically. I dunno, it all depends what year you're comparing it to.
(http://www.ilovespam.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=331&stc=1)
(http://www.dorianyates.net/dorian/site/images/STYLES/dorianyates/images/gallery/images/dy177.jpg)
(http://www.thebiguniverse.com/coleman/aabn0450.jpg)
I equate aesthetics to muscle shape, taper, proportion, bone structure, symmetry and an overall look of athletacism. Neither Dorian or Ronnie look like athletes, they look rigid and ungainly, there is no grace present. Like a racehorse or a panther a certain ammount of leaness has to be apparent, past a certain muscular weight this is not possible.
Shawn is destroying Dorian in that pic, how he didn't win a sandow god only knows.
Since time in memoriam the type of physique that has been celebrated is akin to a Shawn Ray or a Bob Paris. Dorian and Ronnie are just bloated overmuscled freaks really.
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I equate aesthetics to muscle shape, taper, proportion, bone structure, symmetry and an overall look of athletacism. Neither Dorian or Ronnie look like athletes, they look rigid and ungainly, there is no grace present. Like a racehorse or a panther a certain ammount of leaness has to be apparent, past a certain muscular weight this is not possible.
Shawn is destroying Dorian in that pic, how he didn't win a sandow god only knows.
Since time in memoriam the type of physique that has been celebrated is akin to a Shawn Ray or a Bob Paris. Dorian and Ronnie are just bloated overmuscled freaks really.
I see what you're saying but this is bodybuilding, so often the most built body will win. Dorian and Ronnie were both quite aesthetic in their younger years, but they didn't want to come 4th forever or worse like Mike Christian so they developed their muscles to the next level.
(http://images.hugi.is/heilsa/146657.jpg)
(http://www.bodyfreaks.com/photoplog/images/1/1_1544092046ronnie_coleman.jpg)
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Shawn is destroying Dorian in that pic, how he didn't win a sandow god only knows.
From the front. Shawn, Nasser, Kevin, Dillette and Flex all beat Dorian from the front, once they turned to the sides and back it was a different story. Dorian was alot thicker & denser than shawn. A dimension that hard to captured on camera. I like Ray's physique better, but Dorian was a better bodybuilder IMO.
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From the front. Shawn, Nasser, Kevin, Dillette and Flex all beat Dorian from the front, once they turned to the sides and back it was a different story. Dorian was alot thicker & denser than shawn. A dimension that hard to captured on camera. I like Ray's physique better, but Dorian was a better bodybuilder IMO.
Shawn had a lot of back detail, they are not worlds apart. It is not merely a best back contest.
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Ray did have alot of back details, Dorian had more detail, size, thickness, width, etc. it's not a best back contest but having the best back certainly helps. I do think Dorian was worlds apart from the back.
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Iron Mike retired upset he placed a controverial 4th behind Shawn, LaBrada and Haney. He felt he was up there with the Awsome one. Mike may be able to say he (like Wheeler, Ray, Gaspari, and Levrone) as a guy who COULD have been Mr. O. Anyone agree.
shawn would make a great oompah loompa
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Reg, I respect you and all, but to mak such a comment...I hope you dine on rotten elephant assholes.
How many calories protein , carbs, and fat? My ex was a bit on the heavy set side so ...... ::)
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How many calories protein , carbs, and fat? My ex was a bit on the heavy set side so ...... ::)
I was being sarcastic.
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I was being sarcastic.
Yeah? Like I was being serious? :D
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its true shawn had a more aesthetic physique than ronnie or dorian
although considering ronnie was almost 260 pounds at his arguable peak in 1999, he looked good.
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Shawn had a lot of back detail, they are not worlds apart. It is not merely a best back contest.
true. shawn had a great double bi back shot.
it was the lat spread that hurt him against dorian.
still, shawn should have won in 1994. many say other years as well.
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true. shawn had a great double bi back shot.
it was the lat spread that hurt him against dorian.
still, shawn should have won in 1994. many say other years as well.
He had LESS back detail than MC at the MrO in 1990.
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true. shawn had a great double bi back shot.
it was the lat spread that hurt him against dorian.
still, shawn should have won in 1994. many say other years as well.
Shawn should have beaten Dorian in 1994, 1996 and 1997.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/StpDiNFFtaI/AAAAAAAAA30/sQShxdmwGSI/s400/1994-mr-olympia-bw-30.JPG)
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Shawn should have beaten Dorian in 1994, 1996 and 1997.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/StpDiNFFtaI/AAAAAAAAA30/sQShxdmwGSI/s400/1994-mr-olympia-bw-30.JPG)
Dorian getting dominated. Having a good back does not overcome his myriad structural failings.
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He had LESS back detail than MC at the MrO in 1990.
true, shawn's back went from a weakpoint in 1990 to a strong point, at least in terms of the back double bi shot, by 93 onwards.
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true, shawn's back went from a weakpoint in 1990 to a strong point, at least in terms of the back double bi shot, by 93 onwards.
Shawns back improved noticably in 92. It was like WOW!!!!!
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A pioneer ;D ::) >:(
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/138/images/Mike_Christian_photo53.jpg)
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Dorian getting dominated. Having a good back does not overcome his myriad structural failings.
true. I always laugh when I see shawn and dorian standing next to one another, because his quads just blow dorian's out of the water..
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another kev leverone,picked up weights 3/4 months out of olympia ,took his "supps"and was ready to battle,good bber not a faithful trainer .
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troll, you use the reference 'nearly perfect'....lol
calling a midget 'nearly perfect' is hilarious
Who's laughing now timeout boy?
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Christian had terrible legs imo.
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Iron Mike retired upset he placed a controverial 4th behind Shawn, LaBrada and Haney. He felt he was up there with the Awsome one. Mike may be able to say he (like Wheeler, Ray, Gaspari, and Levrone) as a guy who COULD have been Mr. O. Anyone agree.
He wanted to make a comeback in the mid 90's at a bodyweight of 265 pounds. I saw pictures of him then and he was HUGE and CUT... Wonder what happened?
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Christian was good but not in Shawn's class.
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Christian had terrible legs imo.
Strydoms made comments about Mikes legs but I never really looked.