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Title: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: jtsunami on March 09, 2010, 01:26:32 PM
Can you believe these arrogant pricks.  Biden went over there to smooth over relations, the day he is going to leave, the announce they are building more settlements, completely destroying any smoothing out Biden did, what a disgusting move Israel!

JERUSALEM - Vice President Joe Biden, during a visit that had been aimed at repairing strained U.S.-Israeli ties and kickstarting Mideast peace talks, on Tuesday sharply denounced Israel's approval of the construction of 1,600 new homes for Jews in disputed east Jerusalem.

The Interior Ministry announced the construction plans just as Biden was wrapping up a series of warm meetings with Israeli leaders.

"I condemn the decision by the government of Israel to advance planning for new housing units in east Jerusalem. The substance and timing of the announcement ... is precisely the kind of step that undermines the trust we need right now and runs counter to the constructive discussions that I've had here in Israel," Biden said in a statement issued by his office Tuesday afternoon.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35774938/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa

SHAME ON YOU, the whole world is watching boys :)

jt
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Rami on March 09, 2010, 01:31:25 PM
I think it's time for Israel to stand on their own. The clearly only give a fuck about anyone but them selves and do not listen to what anyone else has to say. Seems like the norm over there, should fit right in!
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: tendonitis on March 09, 2010, 01:33:18 PM
like anyone takes Biden seriously on anything
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: pugalist666 on March 09, 2010, 01:33:47 PM
i think its high time all the sand people get the fuck out of jew town
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: saopl on March 09, 2010, 01:35:17 PM
so.. they're building people houses, big fucking deal.
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on March 09, 2010, 01:48:01 PM
so.. they're building people houses, big fucking deal.

not a big deal to you or me, but it is a big deal to the local palestinian families who live in the homes about to be bulldozed to make room for more of God's Chosen Ones.
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: delta9mda on March 09, 2010, 01:48:05 PM
i think its high time all the sand people get the fuck out of jew town
thank you.
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: The Showstoppa on March 09, 2010, 01:49:59 PM
Jews curbstomping Palestinians.....hahahah a......if the other turds in the middle-east are sooooo concerned with their plight, why don't they offer to take them and give them a state?  Cause they really don't give a flyin' fuck about them either.....poor bastards.
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: jtsunami on March 09, 2010, 01:58:37 PM
not a big deal to you or me, but it is a big deal to the local palestinian families who live in the homes about to be bulldozed to make room for more of God's Chosen Ones.

well said
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on March 09, 2010, 02:00:56 PM
Someone needs to nuke both israel and palestine and set their asses in line, they're like a bunch of children constantly going back and forth, they're in dire need of a serious bitchslap.
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: ManBearPig... on March 09, 2010, 02:03:40 PM
just a fair warning:  the owner of this website is a Jew lover.

Carry on.
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Lord Humungous on March 09, 2010, 02:10:13 PM
Even the Israelis know uncle Joe is a crack pot, just look at his boss
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Dreadlifter on March 09, 2010, 02:13:14 PM
israel.

I've said it before and i'll say it again and again. A fucked up situation resulting from creating a country that shouldn't exist. The powers of the West take such an interest because they created the damn situation in the first place.

the israeli government and the palestinian factions who insist on using sucide bombers as a weapon are as bad as each other.

Is there any hope for that situation?
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on March 09, 2010, 02:13:25 PM
just a fair warning:  the owner of this website is a Jew lover.

Carry on.

LOL, I know Yogi is one with the torah.... notice I said israel AND palestine should BOTH be nuked.
:)
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Ron on March 09, 2010, 03:14:36 PM
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JERUSALEM - Vice President Joe Biden, during a visit that had been aimed at repairing strained U.S.-Israeli ties and kickstarting Mideast peace talks, on Tuesday sharply denounced Israel's approval of the construction of 1,600 new homes for Jews in disputed east Jerusalem.

First, whoever wrote this saying 'disputed east Jerusalem' obviously doesnt favor Israel.  Jerusalem has been annexxed 40 years ago, and is a part of Israel.  The expension of the neighborhoods where Jewish people leave is such a way in any city.  They are BUILDING new consruction, not getting rid of other homes. Yes, there is places to build in them hills and part of Jerusalem.  So get it into your head - Jerusalem is in Israel.   I dont hear people saying that California is a part of Mexico because it was a long time ago.  Or this city was part of the Indian Reservation. Jeez.

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I've said it before and i'll say it again and again. A fucked up situation resulting from creating a country that shouldn't exist. The powers of the West take such an interest because they created the damn situation in the first place.

Israel was there 2,000 years ago, and should be there now. Taken over by others, it is back where it should be. As for Palestine, from 1948 to 1967, they should of been a state, however, talk to Jordan and Egypt on why there chose not to have a Palestinian state. 

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not a big deal to you or me, but it is a big deal to the local palestinian families who live in the homes about to be bulldozed to make room for more of God's Chosen Ones.

Yes, lets bulldoze somoe homes in the states too if we beleive everything you say.  You forget a simple thing - a Palestinian state could of happened anytime now. It is the radical wings of the Palestinians that dont want it.



You havent been to Israel - you have freedom, great technology, debates, beautiful beaches, excellent literacy, and some brilliant minds. 

In Palestine, the government doesnt want this - you can get killed just for wanting to have peace. 

When you understand this simple notion, you might be more enlightened.



As for Biden - whatever
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: saopl on March 10, 2010, 06:02:38 AM
not a big deal to you or me, but it is a big deal to the local palestinian families who live in the homes about to be bulldozed to make room for more of God's Chosen Ones.

if they're chosen by God then I see no damage done.
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: dario73 on March 10, 2010, 06:12:49 AM
Israel is not going anywhere. There is no point of you idiots acting like Ahmedinejad.


How about Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Saudi Arabia giving up some of their territory to the Palestinians since they care so much for them.
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on March 10, 2010, 08:55:30 AM
Israel is not going anywhere. There is no point of you idiots acting like Ahmedinejad.


How about Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Saudi Arabia giving up some of their territory to the Palestinians since they care so much for them.

How about israel returning their stolen land to Palestine ? ;)

Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Kazan on March 10, 2010, 09:07:47 AM
How about israel returning their stolen land to Palestine ? ;)



How exactly is the land "stolen"? Funny how when Isreal wins a war and takes territory the land is stolen, but when anyone else does it, it's the spoils of war.
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on March 10, 2010, 09:15:22 AM
How exactly is the land "stolen"? Funny how when Isreal wins a war and takes territory the land is stolen, but when anyone else does it, it's the spoils of war.

War !?! it was partitioned ilegally by the brits and america through the U.N in 1948
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: loco on March 10, 2010, 09:17:56 AM
How about israel returning their stolen land to Palestine ? ;)

By your logic, how about USA returning their stolen land to native Americans and Mexico?   
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Kazan on March 10, 2010, 09:21:57 AM
War !?! it was partitioned ilegally by the brits and america through the U.N in 1948


Actually it was the Brits and France but thats beside the point. Illegally by who's defintion? That word gets thrown around alot, but it seems to me if they (the Brits and French ) were in contol of said land at the time what they did was not illegal. Besides what is now Isreal was basically a huge garbage dump occupied by mostly bedoine's.  And another small problem is what is a Palestinian? What claim do they have to the land? Yasser Arafat of PLO fame was an Egyptian.


If you really want to get into this what about Trans-Jordan? Why aren't the Palestinians going apeshit of that little anexation? You want to know why? Because Muslims hate Jews, it really quite simple.
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: loco on March 10, 2010, 09:23:35 AM
War !?! it was partitioned ilegally by the brits and america through the U.N in 1948

Illegally how?  How come I don't see you posting anything about India and Pakistan?  Is that any different?

Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: loco on March 10, 2010, 09:27:07 AM
Israel is not going anywhere. There is no point of you idiots acting like Ahmedinejad.


How about Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Saudi Arabia giving up some of their territory to the Palestinians since they care so much for them.

Didn't Egypt ask Israel for help in building a huge wall along the Egyptian/Palestinian border in order to keep the Palestinians out of Egypt?  I believe Palestinians got around that by building tunnels under the wall, which Egypt again asked for Israel's help to destroy the tunnels.
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on March 10, 2010, 09:39:27 AM
By your logic, how about USA returning their stolen land to native Americans and Mexico?   

Absolutely they should, but we know that's never gonna happen, California isn't going anywhere even though it really belongs to Mexico.
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 10, 2010, 09:40:33 AM
Absolutely they should, but we know that's never gonna happen, California isn't going anywhere even though it really belongs to Mexico.


and who did the mexicans steal it from before them?
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on March 10, 2010, 09:41:59 AM
Actually it was the Brits and France but thats beside the point. Illegally by who's defintion? That word gets thrown around alot, but it seems to me if they (the Brits and French ) were in contol of said land at the time what they did was not illegal. Besides what is now Isreal was basically a huge garbage dump occupied by mostly bedoine's.  And another small problem is what is a Palestinian? What claim do they have to the land? Yasser Arafat of PLO fame was an Egyptian.


If you really want to get into this what about Trans-Jordan? Why aren't the Palestinians going apeshit of that little anexation? You want to know why? Because Muslims hate Jews, it really quite simple.

And vice-versa, israel hates palestine as much as the palestinians hate the jews, of course that's what it really comes down to.

I'm just tired of hearing this bullshit about how jews are the chosen people and it's their holy land that seems to be their reasoning for everything... 'oh we were chosen by god... it's our holy land, bla bla bla'
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: loco on March 10, 2010, 09:50:14 AM
"Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes.  Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered its energies... Palestine is desolate and unlovely... It is a hopeless, dreary, heartbroken land... desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds - a silent mournful expanse... A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action...  We never saw a human being on the whole route...  There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere.  Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of the worthless soil, had almost deserted the country..." -  Mark Twain (describing Palestine on a visit in 1867).
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 10, 2010, 09:51:46 AM
"Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes.  Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered its energies... Palestine is desolate and unlovely... It is a hopeless, dreary, heartbroken land... [a] desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds - a silent mournful expanse... A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action...  We never saw a human being on the whole route...  There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere.  Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of the worthless soil, had almost deserted the country..." -  Mark Twain (describing Palestine on a visit in 1867).

You mean it wasnt a blissful eden before those damn jews came?  Please say it aint so!
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Kazan on March 10, 2010, 11:28:15 AM
And vice-versa, israel hates palestine as much as the palestinians hate the jews, of course that's what it really comes down to.

I'm just tired of hearing this bullshit about how jews are the chosen people and it's their holy land that seems to be their reasoning for everything... 'oh we were chosen by god... it's our holy land, bla bla bla'


Well judaism is much (by 1000's of years) older religion than Islam. If you notice the Muslims have tried to clain pretty much all the Jewish holy sites as Mulsim holy sites, case in point the dome of the rock mosque.

The Palestinians made choice in 1948, and that choice was to side with the 6 arab nations that attacked Israel. My guess is their though process was well the Arab nations will kick their ass and we will get our piece of the spoils. Didn't turn out that way, so you can say what you want by if I were the Israelis I wouldn't trust the Pal's either.
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: The Showstoppa on March 12, 2010, 09:03:10 AM
At some point in history ALL land was taken/annexed, etc.... by one group from another.....ALL.
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Kazan on March 12, 2010, 09:14:58 AM
At some point in history ALL land was taken/annexed, etc.... by one group from another.....ALL.

Exactly, but apparently only Isreali's are expected to give it back
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 12, 2010, 09:18:20 AM
Exactly, but apparently only Isreali's are expected to give it back

x 100000
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: dario73 on March 12, 2010, 10:18:24 AM
How about israel returning their stolen land to Palestine ? ;)



Hey, genius. How is it stolen when there was never, EVER a "Palestinian" country to begin with? The Palestinian refugees CHOSE to leave Israel nation in 1967. They now claim that they were forced out, but that is an utter lie. The Palestinian fools were betting that Israel would lose the war in 1967. But Israel destroyed Jordan, Egypt, Syria and Iraq  in the 6 days war. One nation against four. To the victor goes the spoils. The palestinian refugees hedged their bet that Israel would be defeated and that they would take over the land. They bet wrong and they lost.

When USA returns any land that they gained via warfare, then Israel will do the same.
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: drkaje on March 12, 2010, 10:26:57 AM
I wouldn't care if they took all the land. Just don't use US funds.
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: jtsunami on March 12, 2010, 12:13:12 PM
x 100000

oh be quiet jew lover.  It is plainly obvious the only reason israel was given to the jews was out of pure pity, and they have taken it and done terrible things, becoming worse than the nazi's ever were to them, they just don't learn, well they will have to learn the hard way :)

Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 12, 2010, 12:15:43 PM
oh be quiet jew lover.  It is plainly obvious the only reason israel was given to the jews was out of pure pity, and they have taken it and done terrible things, becoming worse than the nazi's ever were to them, they just don't learn, well they will have to learn the hard way :)



Cry me a river. 

Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Kazan on March 12, 2010, 12:18:02 PM
oh be quiet jew lover.  It is plainly obvious the only reason israel was given to the jews was out of pure pity, and they have taken it and done terrible things, becoming worse than the nazi's ever were to them, they just don't learn, well they will have to learn the hard way :)



Yeah you really know your history ::)
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: jtsunami on March 12, 2010, 02:25:14 PM
Yeah you really know your history ::)

i know you know the history only the jews want you to know  ;)
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 12, 2010, 02:27:19 PM
i know you know the history only the jews want you to know  ;)

It cant be any worse than what the followers of the pedophile mohammed peddle. 
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: Kazan on March 12, 2010, 02:32:14 PM
i know you know the history only the jews want you to know  ;)

Yeah its all a jewish conspriacy, get a life. All the dumbass anti-semite CT's that get created in the hot bed of intelligence know as the middel east ::).
Title: Re: Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!
Post by: the_steevo_uk on March 15, 2010, 06:54:59 AM
First, whoever wrote this saying 'disputed east Jerusalem' obviously doesnt favor Israel.  Jerusalem has been annexxed 40 years ago, and is a part of Israel.  The expension of the neighborhoods where Jewish people leave is such a way in any city.  They are BUILDING new consruction, not getting rid of other homes. Yes, there is places to build in them hills and part of Jerusalem.  So get it into your head - Jerusalem is in Israel.   I dont hear people saying that California is a part of Mexico because it was a long time ago.  Or this city was part of the Indian Reservation. Jeez.

Israel was there 2,000 years ago, and should be there now. Taken over by others, it is back where it should be. As for Palestine, from 1948 to 1967, they should of been a state, however, talk to Jordan and Egypt on why there chose not to have a Palestinian state. 

Yes, lets bulldoze somoe homes in the states too if we beleive everything you say.  You forget a simple thing - a Palestinian state could of happened anytime now. It is the radical wings of the Palestinians that dont want it.



You havent been to Israel - you have freedom, great technology, debates, beautiful beaches, excellent literacy, and some brilliant minds. 

In Palestine, the government doesnt want this - you can get killed just for wanting to have peace. 

When you understand this simple notion, you might be more enlightened.



As for Biden - whatever


ron Im sorry mate i lived in Israel for a very long time, and only part of what you say is true. I cant be arsed to get into a debate since I spend hours a day dealing with all this shit, but your spouting out the traditional line that most americans who know a little bit but not a lot about the situation generally spout. Israel has fucked up badly this time, the policy of construction in Jerusalem right now is frankly brutal, I know because I see it with my own eyes, and I read the deliberate legal loopholes that are inserted into law with the specific intention of providing cover for what is essentially forced expulsion without legal justification (in israeli law not international)

Im a big supporter of israel but whats going on right now shows that the government doesnt want peace, the palestinians have a myriad of problems no doubt but thats not the issue here, the issue is about whether israel's actions indicate its desire to make concessions for peace. The fact that the israeli political system will not allow those concessions in the first place is for further down the line, but right now netanyahu is stuck in the trap that he was in 1996, saying things to keep the yanks sweet while doing another to keep the right wing in his coalition sweet. He knew about the construction, believe me all zoning and planning is approved by the government not just the local authority. Yet it still went ahead

BIG FUCK UP