Israel slams the door on Biden on the way out!

[Soul Crusher]

Absolutely they should, but we know that's never gonna happen, California isn't going anywhere even though it really belongs to Mexico.

and who did the mexicans steal it from before them?

[Captain Equipoise]

Actually it was the Brits and France but thats beside the point. Illegally by who's defintion? That word gets thrown around alot, but it seems to me if they (the Brits and French ) were in contol of said land at the time what they did was not illegal. Besides what is now Isreal was basically a huge garbage dump occupied by mostly bedoine's.  And another small problem is what is a Palestinian? What claim do they have to the land? Yasser Arafat of PLO fame was an Egyptian.


If you really want to get into this what about Trans-Jordan? Why aren't the Palestinians going apeshit of that little anexation? You want to know why? Because Muslims hate Jews, it really quite simple.

And vice-versa, israel hates palestine as much as the palestinians hate the jews, of course that's what it really comes down to.

I'm just tired of hearing this bullshit about how jews are the chosen people and it's their holy land that seems to be their reasoning for everything... 'oh we were chosen by god... it's our holy land, bla bla bla'

[loco]

"Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes.  Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered its energies... Palestine is desolate and unlovely... It is a hopeless, dreary, heartbroken land... desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds - a silent mournful expanse... A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action...  We never saw a human being on the whole route...  There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere.  Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of the worthless soil, had almost deserted the country..." -  Mark Twain (describing Palestine on a visit in 1867).

[Soul Crusher]

"Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes.  Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered its energies... Palestine is desolate and unlovely... It is a hopeless, dreary, heartbroken land... [a] desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds - a silent mournful expanse... A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action...  We never saw a human being on the whole route...  There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere.  Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of the worthless soil, had almost deserted the country..." -  Mark Twain (describing Palestine on a visit in 1867).

You mean it wasnt a blissful eden before those damn jews came?  Please say it aint so!

[Kazan]

And vice-versa, israel hates palestine as much as the palestinians hate the jews, of course that's what it really comes down to.

I'm just tired of hearing this bullshit about how jews are the chosen people and it's their holy land that seems to be their reasoning for everything... 'oh we were chosen by god... it's our holy land, bla bla bla'

Well judaism is much (by 1000's of years) older religion than Islam. If you notice the Muslims have tried to clain pretty much all the Jewish holy sites as Mulsim holy sites, case in point the dome of the rock mosque.

The Palestinians made choice in 1948, and that choice was to side with the 6 arab nations that attacked Israel. My guess is their though process was well the Arab nations will kick their ass and we will get our piece of the spoils. Didn't turn out that way, so you can say what you want by if I were the Israelis I wouldn't trust the Pal's either.

[The Showstoppa]

At some point in history ALL land was taken/annexed, etc.... by one group from another.....ALL.

[Kazan]

At some point in history ALL land was taken/annexed, etc.... by one group from another.....ALL.

Exactly, but apparently only Isreali's are expected to give it back

[Soul Crusher]

Exactly, but apparently only Isreali's are expected to give it back

x 100000

[dario73]

How about israel returning their stolen land to Palestine ?

Hey, genius. How is it stolen when there was never, EVER a "Palestinian" country to begin with? The Palestinian refugees CHOSE to leave Israel nation in 1967. They now claim that they were forced out, but that is an utter lie. The Palestinian fools were betting that Israel would lose the war in 1967. But Israel destroyed Jordan, Egypt, Syria and Iraq  in the 6 days war. One nation against four. To the victor goes the spoils. The palestinian refugees hedged their bet that Israel would be defeated and that they would take over the land. They bet wrong and they lost.

When USA returns any land that they gained via warfare, then Israel will do the same.

[drkaje]

I wouldn't care if they took all the land. Just don't use US funds.

[jtsunami]

x 100000

oh be quiet jew lover.  It is plainly obvious the only reason israel was given to the jews was out of pure pity, and they have taken it and done terrible things, becoming worse than the nazi's ever were to them, they just don't learn, well they will have to learn the hard way

[Soul Crusher]

oh be quiet jew lover.  It is plainly obvious the only reason israel was given to the jews was out of pure pity, and they have taken it and done terrible things, becoming worse than the nazi's ever were to them, they just don't learn, well they will have to learn the hard way

Cry me a river. 

[Kazan]

oh be quiet jew lover.  It is plainly obvious the only reason israel was given to the jews was out of pure pity, and they have taken it and done terrible things, becoming worse than the nazi's ever were to them, they just don't learn, well they will have to learn the hard way

Yeah you really know your history

[jtsunami]

Yeah you really know your history

i know you know the history only the jews want you to know 

[Soul Crusher]

i know you know the history only the jews want you to know 

It cant be any worse than what the followers of the pedophile mohammed peddle. 

[Kazan]

i know you know the history only the jews want you to know 

Yeah its all a jewish conspriacy, get a life. All the dumbass anti-semite CT's that get created in the hot bed of intelligence know as the middel east .

[the_steevo_uk]

First, whoever wrote this saying 'disputed east Jerusalem' obviously doesnt favor Israel.  Jerusalem has been annexxed 40 years ago, and is a part of Israel.  The expension of the neighborhoods where Jewish people leave is such a way in any city.  They are BUILDING new consruction, not getting rid of other homes. Yes, there is places to build in them hills and part of Jerusalem.  So get it into your head - Jerusalem is in Israel.   I dont hear people saying that California is a part of Mexico because it was a long time ago.  Or this city was part of the Indian Reservation. Jeez.

Israel was there 2,000 years ago, and should be there now. Taken over by others, it is back where it should be. As for Palestine, from 1948 to 1967, they should of been a state, however, talk to Jordan and Egypt on why there chose not to have a Palestinian state. 

Yes, lets bulldoze somoe homes in the states too if we beleive everything you say.  You forget a simple thing - a Palestinian state could of happened anytime now. It is the radical wings of the Palestinians that dont want it.



You havent been to Israel - you have freedom, great technology, debates, beautiful beaches, excellent literacy, and some brilliant minds. 

In Palestine, the government doesnt want this - you can get killed just for wanting to have peace. 

When you understand this simple notion, you might be more enlightened.



As for Biden - whatever

ron Im sorry mate i lived in Israel for a very long time, and only part of what you say is true. I cant be arsed to get into a debate since I spend hours a day dealing with all this shit, but your spouting out the traditional line that most americans who know a little bit but not a lot about the situation generally spout. Israel has fucked up badly this time, the policy of construction in Jerusalem right now is frankly brutal, I know because I see it with my own eyes, and I read the deliberate legal loopholes that are inserted into law with the specific intention of providing cover for what is essentially forced expulsion without legal justification (in israeli law not international)

Im a big supporter of israel but whats going on right now shows that the government doesnt want peace, the palestinians have a myriad of problems no doubt but thats not the issue here, the issue is about whether israel's actions indicate its desire to make concessions for peace. The fact that the israeli political system will not allow those concessions in the first place is for further down the line, but right now netanyahu is stuck in the trap that he was in 1996, saying things to keep the yanks sweet while doing another to keep the right wing in his coalition sweet. He knew about the construction, believe me all zoning and planning is approved by the government not just the local authority. Yet it still went ahead

BIG FUCK UP