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Title: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 23, 2010, 02:43:53 PM
-Mickie James - Not a surprise.  Diva behavior, multiple write-ups with WWE

-Shelton Benjamin - Not a surprise but very foolish of WWE to do.  Unutilized talent

-Kung Fu Naki - Very Unexpected!!!  Been with the company for over a decade - Stone Cold's friend

-Jimmy Wang Yang - Prob failed the drug test for the 3rd time for steroids or some other shit

-Slam Master J - ???

-Katie Lea Burchill - ???? Diva behavior

-Mike Know - ??? Same as Shelton...unutilized talent



Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Kwon on April 23, 2010, 02:45:25 PM
Don't know half of them, post some pictures of them Melvin!

(http://media.cleveland.com/plain-dealer/photo/-11fa28cfab3636bb_custom_665xauto.jpg)

Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: The Showstoppa on April 23, 2010, 02:45:48 PM
I would say 1 wrestler and 6 piles of shit......Benjamin is the exception.  He will be in TNA by the end of the month.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: The True Adonis on April 23, 2010, 02:46:30 PM
I didn`t realize that the WWE was actively enforcing a steroid policy.  Vince, do you think that McMahon and company merely use this as an excuse to terminate contracts early without having to pay the remainder?


Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: spinnis on April 23, 2010, 02:55:01 PM
-Shelton Benjamin - Not a surprise but very foolish of WWE to do.  Unutilized talent

the fuck?

that dude has the potential to become one of the best wwe wrestler ever.. Insanly atlethic.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: johnnynoname on April 23, 2010, 02:57:32 PM
Burnt match,

how slow is ur Internet ?

This is old news

Sincerley and fuck off,
Everyone on the Internet
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 23, 2010, 03:10:55 PM
I didn`t realize that the WWE was actively enforcing a steroid policy.  Vince, do you think that McMahon and company merely use this as an excuse to terminate contracts early without having to pay the remainder?




Not really because a wrestling contract is written to where they are independent contractors.  They can be hired and fired for any reason and are responsible for health insurance, travel, etc.  Its prob used for leverage they complain or try to file suit for something. 

Also, no-one expect the top superstars even make the money to sue anyone.  A WWE jobber makes about 500 dollars per wrestling match while a mid-carder makes about 20-30,000 dollars a year.

 
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: The True Adonis on April 23, 2010, 03:28:38 PM
Not really because a wrestling contract is written to where they are independent contractors.  They can be hired and fired for any reason and are responsible for health insurance, travel, etc.  Its prob used for leverage they complain or try to file suit for something. 

Also, no-one expect the top superstars even make the money to sue anyone.  A WWE jobber makes about 500 dollars per wrestling match while a mid-carder makes about 20-30,000 dollars a year.

 
The "no-names" in the WWE only make 30,000 a year?   At that point is it even worth it considering the medical risk?
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: buffdnet on April 23, 2010, 03:35:31 PM
The "no-names" in the IFBB only make 30,000 a year?   At that point is it even worth it considering the medical risk?
FIXED dumbass question regardless. go away tard
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: David M on April 23, 2010, 03:40:55 PM
big deal
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 23, 2010, 04:04:50 PM
The "no-names" in the WWE only make 30,000 a year?   At that point is it even worth it considering the medical risk?

Most wrestlers make money the same way bodybuilders do by signing autographs, personal training, stripping at clubs...etc.  You have to understand that a lot of wrestlers were bodybuilders at one time too so not much is different except that wrestling is more mainstream and widely accepted than bodybuilding
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Kwon on April 23, 2010, 04:11:25 PM
Guessing Mickie James wanted more money than the WWE thought she was worth? :D
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 23, 2010, 04:13:06 PM
Guessing Mickie James wanted more money than the WWE thought she was worth? :D

Her's was more of a disciplinary problem most likely. Showed up late to events, didn't practice, being a diva, etc.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: The Showstoppa on April 23, 2010, 04:13:54 PM
The "no-names" in the WWE only make 30,000 a year?   At that point is it even worth it considering the medical risk?

No, they make more than that.....here is a link to a sample of their salaries.....half the people listed were "mid-carders" and the lowest salary was $43k out of the actual wrestlers.  Some of the "divas" make a little less.  But the vast majority make 6 figuers....even guys like Lance Cade, Johnny Nitro and Joey Mercury make 6 figures.  This was from 04 to 06. 

http://www.wrestlescoop.com/info/salaries.shtml
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 23, 2010, 04:14:00 PM
Most wrestlers make money the same way bodybuilders do by signing autographs, personal training, stripping at clubs...etc.  You have to understand that a lot of wrestlers were bodybuilders at one time too so not much is different except that wrestling is more mainstream and widely accepted than bodybuilding

What happened with your wrestling career??
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: The Showstoppa on April 23, 2010, 04:21:41 PM
What happened with your wrestling career??

i think it ended in a tragic mop handle accident in the Swain high-school gymnasium.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: The True Adonis on April 23, 2010, 04:22:28 PM
No, they make more than that.....here is a link to a sample of their salaries.....half the people listed were "mid-carders" and the lowest salary was $43k out of the actual wrestlers.  Some of the "divas" make a little less.  But the vast majority make 6 figuers....even guys like Lance Cade, Johnny Nitro and Joey Mercury make 6 figures.  This was from 04 to 06. 

http://www.wrestlescoop.com/info/salaries.shtml
I didn`t realize that the women made so little compared to the men according to that information.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 23, 2010, 04:22:42 PM
i think it ended in a tragic mop handle accident in the Swain high-school gymnasium.
;D
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: The Showstoppa on April 23, 2010, 04:24:48 PM
I didn`t realize that the women made so little compared to the men according to that information.

I would say it's due to a much lighter work schedule and the physical demands are very different. 
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 23, 2010, 04:27:20 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: The Showstoppa on April 23, 2010, 04:28:08 PM
;)

Minnesotta Wrecking Crew took no prisoners!
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 23, 2010, 04:34:39 PM
Minnesotta Wrecking Crew took no prisoners!
I hated those fuckers but they were tough as hell
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 23, 2010, 04:40:10 PM
No, they make more than that.....here is a link to a sample of their salaries.....half the people listed were "mid-carders" and the lowest salary was $43k out of the actual wrestlers.  Some of the "divas" make a little less.  But the vast majority make 6 figuers....even guys like Lance Cade, Johnny Nitro and Joey Mercury make 6 figures.  This was from 04 to 06. 

http://www.wrestlescoop.com/info/salaries.shtml

None of those were mid-card jobbers because they've all been on TV.  All of those folks have been shown on TV.  Jobbers are only at house shows where those guys listed would actually be the main event and they didn't get nothing.  If there wasn't enough jobbers to perform, they would go and get local wrestlers to do the squash matches.

 
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 23, 2010, 04:41:58 PM
None of those were mid-card jobbers because they've all been on TV.  All of those folks have been shown on TV.  Jobbers are only at house shows where those guys listed would actually be the main event and they didn't get nothing.  If there wasn't enough jobbers to perform, they would go and get local wrestlers to do the squash matches.

 
What is a house show Vince?
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 23, 2010, 04:43:23 PM
What happened with your wrestling career??

Realized that there was no money to be made in it and not worth my health.  Doing a wrestling match is equal to being in a car crash.  I did one last gig as an announcer for a fringe outfit and quit the business.  I didn't have enough heart or love for the business to stick around
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 23, 2010, 04:47:37 PM
What is a house show Vince?

House show is an unbroadcasted and  event thats not on TV.  That's where the real money is for the WWE.  Some people think that they only have 3 shows a week but the truth is that they have 10-15 shows every day at different venues.  

A house show would usually consist of a mix of jobbers wrestling the majority events and then the main event would be one or two WWE superstars that are featured on TV.  House shows are unscripted and are not part of a storyline however if a superstar is injured, a house show is sometimes used to change titles to another superstar.  
 

If you never heard of him or seen him on TV, he's a jobber.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on April 23, 2010, 04:50:12 PM
what i would like to know is how, and why, is the steroid policy selectively enforced

the bigger name draws like randy orton, buatista, and of course HHH are obviously on liberal amounts of anabolics and have been for years

but other guys are getting in trouble

is it as simple as vince or other brass fixing the tests for the big stars, or is it more of an unspoken thing, or is a doping thing where the top guys now have go to extremes to pass drug screens??
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 23, 2010, 04:53:45 PM
what i would like to know is how, and why, is the steroid policy selectively enforced

the bigger name draws like randy orton, buatista, and of course HHH are obviously on liberal amounts of anabolics and have been for years

but other guys are getting in trouble

is it as simple as vince or other brass fixing the tests for the big stars, or is it more of an unspoken thing, or is a doping thing where the top guys now have go to extremes to pass drug screens??

The steroid policy in the WWE is enforced the same as the IFBB and they really don't care about it.  However, the main concern is for painkillers and illegal drugs like oxycontin, marijuana, cocaine, etc because a wrestler under the influence can really fuck someone up if they work the show wrong.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on April 23, 2010, 05:30:48 PM
The steroid policy in the WWE is enforced the same as the IFBB and they really don't care about it.  However, the main concern is for painkillers and illegal drugs like oxycontin, marijuana, cocaine, etc because a wrestler under the influence can really fuck someone up if they work the show wrong.

i was under the impression that they WERE testing for steroids in the WWE now...........thats why the majority of pro wrestlers have all lost ALOT of weight in the last couple of years. and the new guys coming up arent blown up like they used to be
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Cardfan on April 23, 2010, 05:43:58 PM
How the hell does this thread exist w/o pics of these wrestling hos? A lil help.....
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Kwon on April 23, 2010, 06:01:56 PM
How the hell does this thread exist w/o pics of these wrestling hos? A lil help.....

(http://pimpandhost.com/media2/image/1/_/_/_/1/2/a/1/e/mar16_m.jpg)
(http://pimpandhost.com/media2/image/1/_/_/_/1/8/a/a/a/1927.jpg)
(http://pimpandhost.com/media2/image/1/_/_/_/1/d/c/0/f/1868.jpg)
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Cardfan on April 23, 2010, 06:05:29 PM
Sorry I said a word...please keep those type of pics of the internet...DAMN!!!
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Kwon on April 23, 2010, 06:17:52 PM
Sorry I said a word...please keep those type of pics of the internet...DAMN!!!

Just kidding Cardfan.

This is Mickie James
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00432/Mickie_James_432416a.jpg)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/v5juz8.gif)
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: johnnynoname on April 23, 2010, 06:55:21 PM
Lol at Vince talking like he is "smart" to the business when is nothing but a huge mark.

I was gonna call him a huge "jabroni" but that is reserved for idiots that are , at least, "smart" to the business.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Cardfan on April 23, 2010, 06:59:33 PM
Much better Kwon....thanks for that.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: TRIX on April 23, 2010, 06:59:50 PM
$500 a match lol please............ thats ridiculous, proof? mickey james was on smackdown this week
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 23, 2010, 07:29:46 PM
$500 a match lol please............ thats ridiculous, proof? mickey james was on smackdown this week

Shows are pre-taped.  Mickey James is long gone.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Dorian01 on April 23, 2010, 07:31:57 PM
I didn`t realize that the WWE was actively enforcing a steroid policy.  Vince, do you think that McMahon and company merely use this as an excuse to terminate contracts early without having to pay the remainder?



The amount of shit they let Randy Orton skate by with shows that it doesn't mean anything.

Mickie James nudes, shows giner spread and such http://narutoshippuden.blogfree.net/?t=526211
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Kwon on April 23, 2010, 07:49:19 PM
The amount of shit they let Randy Orton skate by with shows that it doesn't mean anything.

Mickie James nudes, shows giner spread and such http://narutoshippuden.blogfree.net/?t=526211

So that's why?
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: The Showstoppa on April 24, 2010, 07:08:32 AM
None of those were mid-card jobbers because they've all been on TV.  All of those folks have been shown on TV.  Jobbers are only at house shows where those guys listed would actually be the main event and they didn't get nothing.  If there wasn't enough jobbers to perform, they would go and get local wrestlers to do the squash matches.

 

Nah, you are referring to old-school.  There aren't anymore Mulkey's or Iron Mike Sharpe's.....thats why you see guys on that list jobbing at house shows and on TV....the old jobber reference is gone. 
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 24, 2010, 07:32:19 AM
Nah, you are referring to old-school.  There aren't anymore Mulkey's or Iron Mike Sharpe's.....thats why you see guys on that list jobbing at house shows and on TV....the old jobber reference is gone. 

Jobber's will always be around no matter what because the WWE wants to run as many shows a day as possible which is what they do
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 24, 2010, 08:37:57 AM
Jobber's will always be around no matter what because the WWE wants to run as many shows a day as possible which is what they do

Were you a jobber or a heal?? What wrestlers did you defeat?
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: EL Mariachi on April 24, 2010, 08:44:27 AM
Don't know half of them, post some pictures of them Melvin!

(http://media.cleveland.com/plain-dealer/photo/-11fa28cfab3636bb_custom_665xauto.jpg)



HAHAHAHAH
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: ShipSekki on April 24, 2010, 08:47:51 AM
Were you a jobber or a heal?? What wrestlers did you defeat?

 He's a rim jobber.

 He defeated "Big Cock Bubba" in the porn movie "Gay Wrestling Hunks #37".
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 24, 2010, 08:57:12 AM
Were you a jobber or a heal?? What wrestlers did you defeat?


None.  Jobbers don't win matches, we just make the other person look like a bad ass
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: The Showstoppa on April 24, 2010, 08:59:26 AM
Jobber's will always be around no matter what because the WWE wants to run as many shows a day as possible which is what they do

Not in the way it once was.....example, here is a link to a WWE houseshow in Birmingham, Al......the opener has Santino Marella def. Chavo Guerrero....Chavo is pulling down $200k and he "jobbed" as the curtain jerker.

http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/wwe-house-show-results/wwe-house-show-results-1-16-birmingham-alabama.php

Or here's one in Ireland where it was Regal and Kofi as the "curatain jerkers" and they both make over $200k a year.

http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/wwe-house-show-results/second-report-wwe-raw-house-show-results-4-17-10.php

the whole connotation for a "jobber" in the WWE is very different than the old territory days, or even the indy circuit.  Sure, on occasion, they might tap some local talent, but it's not the norm.  In the old days you would see two jobbers going at it to open, a jobber vs someone they are trying to get over in the middle and then main eventers in the top couple of matches......doesn't happen anymore.  And the TV "jobbers" are the ones on the salary list I posted before....hardly $30k a yr guys.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 24, 2010, 09:00:52 AM

None.  Jobbers don't win matches, we just make the other person look like a bad ass

Did you wrestle any guys that are "Known"??
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: MP on April 24, 2010, 09:49:45 AM
Some people think that they only have 3 shows a week but the truth is that they have 10-15 shows every day at different venues.

These guys work hard, but not that hard. ::)

http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/

You're so off the mark on some stuff, but I don't have time to correct you further.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on April 24, 2010, 10:15:46 AM
best meme ever...




although crying drunk black guy is a close second



BTW....the gay son in this video looks and sounds a LOT like you vince :-*
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 24, 2010, 10:31:52 AM
These guys work hard, but not that hard. ::)

http://www.wwe.com/schedules/events/

You're so off the mark on some stuff, but I don't have time to correct you further.

I don't keep up with scheduling but they were running a bunch of shows a while back.  Economy is most likely to blame however this list doesn't show the events done by WWE development territories.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 24, 2010, 10:36:29 AM
Did you wrestle any guys that are "Known"??

Nope.  You have to really work your way up a very very very long ladder that led to nowhere for 98% of professional wrestlers out there and I didn't stick around to put up with it.

Unless you're a generation wrestler, related to a famous wrestler, or knock up the bosses daughter, there's not much of a chance of success. 

Even if you make it to the top, you usually fall off the ladder pretty quick.  Look what happenned to Andrew "Test" Martin or Scott Hall or Kevin Nash or Kanyon or Crash Holly ...etc.  The list goes on.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Mr.1derful on April 24, 2010, 06:03:07 PM
Nope.  You have to really work your way up a very very very long ladder that led to nowhere for 98% of professional wrestlers out there and I didn't stick around to put up with it.

Unless you're a generation wrestler, related to a famous wrestler, or knock up the bosses daughter, there's not much of a chance of success.  

Even if you make it to the top, you usually fall off the ladder pretty quick.  Look what happenned to Andrew "Test" Martin or Scott Hall or Kevin Nash or Kanyon or Crash Holly ...etc.  The list goes on.

So, if not for that, you would have been a main eventer?  Last I checked, Scott Hall and Kevin Nash made a lot of money in WCW back in the day.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: noworries on April 25, 2010, 12:11:44 AM
Nope.  You have to really work your way up a very very very long ladder that led to nowhere for 98% of professional wrestlers out there and I didn't stick around to put up with it.

Unless you're a generation wrestler, related to a famous wrestler, or knock up the bosses daughter, there's not much of a chance of success. 

Even if you make it to the top, you usually fall off the ladder pretty quick.  Look what happenned to Andrew "Test" Martin or Scott Hall or Kevin Nash or Kanyon or Crash Holly ...etc.  The list goes on.

Show one photo of you in the ring..just one
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince B on April 25, 2010, 12:28:16 AM
Keith, we all know Goodrum is full of shit. How many people does he think he can keep fooling with his claims and crap? You have to admit he keeps coming up with new stuff to impress the flotsam here. This trailer park inhabitant has done nothing much in his life but he sure can tell a good story.

He used to 'warm up' the audience at some hillbilly shows but got soda bottles and rubbish tossed at him. Even the wrestlers hated this big mouth. I bet he is one of those irritating dudes who shouts out in movie theatres!  
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Dorian01 on April 25, 2010, 01:18:07 AM
So that's why?
Mickie was starting a country singing career, but none of the females ever last more than roughly 5 years. They pretty much all implode due to hugely inflated egos.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: HTexan on April 25, 2010, 01:26:34 AM
vince is a grown ass man watching wwe. :-\ :-\
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: noworries on April 25, 2010, 01:30:20 AM
Nope.  You have to really work your way up a very very very long ladder that led to nowhere for 98% of professional wrestlers out there and I didn't stick around to put up with it.

Unless you're a generation wrestler, related to a famous wrestler, or knock up the bosses daughter, there's not much of a chance of success. 

Even if you make it to the top, you usually fall off the ladder pretty quick.  Look what happenned to Andrew "Test" Martin or Scott Hall or Kevin Nash or Kanyon or Crash Holly ...etc.  The list goes on.

So doing the bosses son didn't help :D
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: HTexan on April 25, 2010, 01:32:50 AM
So doing the bosses son didn't help :D
so that was your secret. ;D
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: jaejonna on April 25, 2010, 02:32:27 AM
So doing the bosses son didn't help :D
Thats a give in he was trying to blow him since .000000000000000000009 seconds of meeting him.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: johnnynoname on April 25, 2010, 02:54:07 AM
vince is a wrestling insider  ::)

he is like Dave Meltzer if Dave tripped in mud






btw, Vince, Dave Meltzer is what is known as a "dirt sheet writer"

I just wanted to point that out to you  and save you the trip to Google
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 25, 2010, 05:33:42 AM
So, if not for that, you would have been a main eventer?  Last I checked, Scott Hall and Kevin Nash made a lot of money in WCW back in the day.


 I don't know much about Kevin Nash but Scott Hall was friends with Dusty Rhodes who helped him break into the business.  I don't know what they made back in the day but now they are pretty much on skid row.

However, hardly anyone in wrestling is really getting any good pay.  The people who got the real money were the promoters and that sucks.  All that money floating around and wrestlers got nothing but the dog scraps off the table.  No different than bodybuilding.

Some guys like the Rock and Booker T had outside ventures and invested the money they got but others weren't so lucky
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 25, 2010, 05:43:15 AM
vince is a wrestling insider  ::)

he is like Dave Meltzer if Dave tripped in mud






btw, Vince, Dave Meltzer is what is known as a "dirt sheet writer"

I just wanted to point that out to you  and save you the trip to Google


I hardly keep up with wrestling because right now because there's really no reason to.  I've not even watched wrestling on TV in about 3 years.  But I keep in touch with friends who are still running around every weekend to wrestle at some dirt town. 

I'm not giving you the inside of the business but just the stark reality.  Behind the lights and the cheering fans there's nothing but a hotel room with bottle of alcohol and tons of painkillers for most wrestlers.  I wish people would go watch that "Wrestler" movie with Mickey Rourke because that right there is pretty much the jist of the business
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 25, 2010, 05:43:50 AM
 ;)Dusty could take a beating and keep on ticking.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: OneMoreRep on April 25, 2010, 05:51:08 AM
This is all very interesting Vince. 

Growing up, I watched wrestling with friends and I was always excited to see the big names like Andre the Giant, Hulk Hogan, Superfly Jimmy Snucka and a few others that would highlight over the years.

Tell us more about the little man in the business, the "jobber" as you would call him.  Tell us about the trials and tribulations that a "jobber" would go through, the drug abuse, losing his friends, the issues with his long-lost daughter and that of screwing random hookers while trying to get one particular stripper to fall for him.

I always wondered where all the fallen cowboys have gone over the years.

"1"
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 25, 2010, 05:57:39 AM
This is all very interesting Vince. 

Growing up, I watched wrestling with friends and I was always excited to see the big names like Andre the Giant, Hulk Hogan, Superfly Jimmy Snucka and a few others that would highlight over the years.

Tell us more about the little man in the business, the "jobber" as you would call him.  Tell us about the trials and tribulations that a "jobber" would go through, the drug abuse, losing his friends, the issues with his long-lost daughter and that of screwing random hookers while trying to get one particular stripper to fall for him.

I always wondered where all the fallen cowboys have gone over the years.

"1"


Its a movie not a documentary so some stuff is put in there for effects.  They got one documentary out called Bloodstained Memoirs if you're looking for the gospel.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: littleguns on April 25, 2010, 07:17:34 AM
Ok since ECW "folded" the rosters have been jammed pack (Raw/Smackdown)

These are just rumors

Mickie James -yes was trying her hand in Singing but did not have the "Diva" look as her body had changed over the last few yrs

Shelton Benjamin - Never took his game up a notch, no Mic skills, great wrestler but we know in todays marketplace need to be skilled on the Mic and Wrestle. I can definitely see Kurt Angle bringing him into TNA

Mike Knox - Tried to make him a big wrecking machine but again no mic skills and "wow" factor...no big loss

Jimmy Wang - Asian with a cowboy gimmick..cmon now....also a small guy

Funaki - probably the biggest surprise as he was a true team player

And Vince...being a 2nd generation or sleeping with bosses, daughter is not all it takes.....Look at people like Batista, Edge, Jericho....had nothing given to them, paid their dues and are now top draws
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 25, 2010, 07:48:22 AM
what i would like to know is how, and why, is the steroid policy selectively enforced

the bigger name draws like randy orton, buatista, and of course HHH are obviously on liberal amounts of anabolics and have been for years

but other guys are getting in trouble

is it as simple as vince or other brass fixing the tests for the big stars, or is it more of an unspoken thing, or is a doping thing where the top guys now have go to extremes to pass drug screens??

My guess is that the steroid testing policy for big stars is similar to a scene in the movie "Back to School."

Vince: Batista, are you on steroids:

Batista: I can't lie to you, Vince. No!

Vince: I'm satisfied.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Mr.1derful on April 25, 2010, 08:03:31 AM

 I don't know much about Kevin Nash but Scott Hall was friends with Dusty Rhodes who helped him break into the business.  I don't know what they made back in the day but now they are pretty much on skid row.

However, hardly anyone in wrestling is really getting any good pay.  The people who got the real money were the promoters and that sucks.  All that money floating around and wrestlers got nothing but the dog scraps off the table.  No different than bodybuilding.

Some guys like the Rock and Booker T had outside ventures and invested the money they got but others weren't so lucky

Scott Hall has battled personal issues, but Nash is hardly on skid row.  You have no idea what you are talking about.  Both hall and Nash waived clauses that would allow for Bret Hart to join WCW and make a higher salary than they were, which means they were very well paid.  Hart was alleged to get 3 million per year while in WCW.  
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 25, 2010, 08:05:51 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 25, 2010, 08:22:39 AM
Ok since ECW "folded" the rosters have been jammed pack (Raw/Smackdown)

These are just rumors

Mickie James -yes was trying her hand in Singing but did not have the "Diva" look as her body had changed over the last few yrs

Shelton Benjamin - Never took his game up a notch, no Mic skills, great wrestler but we know in todays marketplace need to be skilled on the Mic and Wrestle. I can definitely see Kurt Angle bringing him into TNA

Mike Knox - Tried to make him a big wrecking machine but again no mic skills and "wow" factor...no big loss

Jimmy Wang - Asian with a cowboy gimmick..cmon now....also a small guy

Funaki - probably the biggest surprise as he was a true team player

And Vince...being a 2nd generation or sleeping with bosses, daughter is not all it takes.....Look at people like Batista, Edge, Jericho....had nothing given to them, paid their dues and are now top draws


There are thousands of wrestlers out there that have paid their dues and continue to do so without ever making it and even if you "make it", you can still come out on the losing end.  I'm not going to sit here and debate over an industry that I no longer actively participate in for almost a decade.  I still love wrestling but not as much as I used to.  Once you see how you "top draws" are really living, then you'll know what I mean.  If you ever go to a fan signing event or even a IFBB event, you'll run into a few like Cena for example who I ran into a few years ago.  Go talk to them about "the business" or better yet visit a wrestling school
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 25, 2010, 08:32:27 AM
Scott Hall has battled personal issues, but Nash is hardly on skid row.  You have no idea what you are talking about.  Both hall and Nash waived clauses that would allow for Bret Hart to join WCW and make a higher salary than they were, which means they were very well paid.  Hart was alleged to get 3 million per year while in WCW.  

I can assure you that Bret Hart wasn't making no fucking 3 million at WCW...... ::)

As far as Hall and Nash are concerned, they are most likely living paycheck to paycheck.  Just like bodybuilding, salaries are greatly exaggerated and don't even take into account that they are independent contractors which means they have to pay everything out of pocket from health insurance, travel, lodging, meals, etc and consider that they wrestle over 300 shows a year.  After its all said and done, there's not much beer money to go drinking with



Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 25, 2010, 08:33:24 AM
You are correct Vince.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: noworries on April 25, 2010, 08:42:01 AM
Goodrum show us one photo of you in the ring wrestling.  Or all this stuff you are telling us means nothing,  I have a feeling you were just one of those people who believed wrestling was real and belonged to every fan club you could join.  Step up to the plate for once
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 25, 2010, 08:51:49 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 25, 2010, 09:46:19 AM
Goodrum show us one photo of you in the ring wrestling.  Or all this stuff you are telling us means nothing,  I have a feeling you were just one of those people who believed wrestling was real and belonged to every fan club you could join.  Step up to the plate for once

Those are definitely pictures that I won't be publishing ever because I had a perm at the time when hair still grew well on my head....... ;D  My short lived time was forgettable and doesn't mean nothing to me anyway.  I only keep in touch with a few friends I made, don't even watch wrestling, and quite frankly don't give two wet shits about it.

Until the WWE, TNA, and other promotions start taking better care of professional wrestlers, not ripping them off on money, and not making them do things at the risk of great bodily injury, I won't be a member of any wrestling fan club whatsoever.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Montague on April 25, 2010, 10:20:22 AM
I can assure you that Bret Hart wasn't making no fucking 3 million at WCW...... ::)


In 1996, Eric Bischoff arranged for a meeting with Bret through Bret’s agent, Barry Bloom, while Bret was in L.A. doing voice work for The Simpsons.

Eric asked Bret what it would take to get him to come to WCW.
Bret replied, “$3 million a year and a lighter schedule.”

On Sept. 27, Eric made Bret a counteroffer of $2.8 million per year for three years.  
McMahon caught wind of the offer & drew up the infamous 20-year contract that would include:
$1.5 million / year for 3-yrs. as a wrestler,
$500,000 / year for the next 7-yrs. as a senior adviser,
then $250,000 / year for a 10-yr. retainer.  

A short time later, Vince reneged on the contract.
Bret tried to get his old offer with WCW.
Bischoff said the best they could do was $2.5 million for 125 days per year, plus insurance and a clause that allowed Bret to arrive at venues much later than the other talent.
Bret accepted.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 25, 2010, 10:35:14 AM

In 1996, Eric Bischoff arranged for a meeting with Bret through Bret’s agent, Barry Bloom, while Bret was in L.A. doing voice work for The Simpsons.

Eric asked Bret what it would take to get him to come to WCW.
Bret replied, “$3 million a year and a lighter schedule.”

On Sept. 27, Eric made Bret a counteroffer of $2.8 million per year for three years.  
McMahon caught wind of the offer & drew up the infamous 20-year contract that would include:
$1.5 million / year for 3-yrs. as a wrestler,
$500,000 / year for the next 7-yrs. as a senior adviser,
then $250,000 / year for a 10-yr. retainer.  

A short time later, Vince reneged on the contract.
Bret tried to get his old offer with WCW.
Bischoff said the best they could do was $2.5 million for 125 days per year, plus insurance and a clause that allowed Bret to arrive at venues much later than the other talent.
Bret accepted.


If that's true then no wonder WCW went down the toilet so fast.  Brett wasn't worth that much.  Maybe 1.5 million because of merchandising and that he's a 3rd generation wrestler from a promonient family but not that much
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: tu_holmes on April 25, 2010, 10:43:43 AM
That was the problem with WCW at it's downfall... too much money and not enough sense from the management.

You have to remember what was happening at the time... AOL and Time Warner had merged... AOL at the time was the biggest internet provider in the world.

Then... Dial up became passe.... AOL started to drown and Time Warner took huge hits on the stock... They had paid out all of these insane contracts to wrestlers in WCW (who was owned by AOL/Time Warner at the time) and it just became a mess... Once the ad revenue started to shrink, the Time Warner managers decided WCW was pointless to have, so they sold it away.... In walks the only other wrestling game in town in Vince McMahon and he buys them up for cents on the dollar.

Those with big contracts didn't sign with Vince (Like Sting or Flair immediately)

Those who didn't have huge contract extensions went with Vince at a sizable downsize.

That's why Booker T was the last WCW champion... He had signed a deal with Vince and Scott Steiner hadn't, so Scott dropped the belt to Books on the last Nitro.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Mr.1derful on April 25, 2010, 10:54:27 AM
I can assure you that Bret Hart wasn't making no fucking 3 million at WCW...... ::)As far as Hall and Nash are concerned, they are most likely living paycheck to paycheck.  Just like bodybuilding, salaries are greatly exaggerated and don't even take into account that they are independent contractors which means they have to pay everything out of pocket from health insurance, travel, lodging, meals, etc and consider that they wrestle over 300 shows a year.  After its all said and done, there's not much beer money to go drinking with



I can assure you Bret was making around 3 million in WCW.  And your saying "most likely", regarding Hall and Nash indicates as always, you don't have a fucking clue.  You're not in the know, or even close, so stop pretending.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 25, 2010, 10:59:58 AM
I can assure you Bret was making around 3 million in WCW.  And your saying "most likely", regarding Hall and Nash indicates as always, you don't have a fucking clue.  You're not in the know, or even close, so stop pretending.

Met him in Atlanta and got him to sign a $20 dollar Bill.  8)

My friend got him to autograph a Credit Application.  :-\

Big guy all the way.  8)
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: noworries on April 25, 2010, 12:41:13 PM
at the end of my friend's career and life he was getting $50,000 a match.  he was popular but not top tier
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: noworries on April 25, 2010, 12:45:44 PM
Those are definitely pictures that I won't be publishing ever because I had a perm at the time when hair still grew well on my head....... ;D  My short lived time was forgettable and doesn't mean nothing to me anyway.  I only keep in touch with a few friends I made, don't even watch wrestling, and quite frankly don't give two wet shits about it.

Until the WWE, TNA, and other promotions start taking better care of professional wrestlers, not ripping them off on money, and not making them do things at the risk of great bodily injury, I won't be a member of any wrestling fan club whatsoever.
So that is your answer to why you won't post a photo.  My god even your excuses suck.  And I bet all the wrestling organizations are doing their best to be better so you will come back and be a huge fan ::) ::)  Jesus Christ Goodrum everyone knows you are an ugly MF'er at least the hair would cover up some it.  Post the fucking pics or quit pretending that you wrestled.  Post one of you wrestling NOW!!!!
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Captain Equipoise on April 25, 2010, 01:12:42 PM
(http://www.wrestlingnewsdesk.com/WND/images/stories/story%20files/112408/MELINA%20SPLITS.jpg)

(http://<a href="http://s285.photobucket.com/albums/ll43/myknsj/WWE/?action-view&current=00b9d0b4.gif" target="_blank"><img src="http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll43/myknsj/WWE/00b9d0b4.gif" border="0" alt="Animated Or Moving,Melina Perez"></a>)

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Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Earl1972 on April 25, 2010, 01:20:17 PM
i remember during scott hall's hiatus from wcw in the late 90's, he was getting paid 30 grand a week just to sit home

while working i think he made 60 grand a week

E
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 25, 2010, 03:23:25 PM
(http://www.wrestlingnewsdesk.com/WND/images/stories/story%20files/112408/MELINA%20SPLITS.jpg)

(http://<a href="http://s285.photobucket.com/albums/ll43/myknsj/WWE/?action-view&current=00b9d0b4.gif" target="_blank"><img src="http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll43/myknsj/WWE/00b9d0b4.gif" border="0" alt="Animated Or Moving,Melina Perez"></a>)

(http://i40.tinypic.com/nbufc5.jpg)
Hell yea Captain knows wrestling. ;D Who was that hot one that killed herself awhile back or overdosed cant remember
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 25, 2010, 04:06:48 PM
Hell yea Captain knows wrestling. ;D Who was that hot one that killed herself awhile back or overdosed cant remember

Ms Elizabeth.  I blame it on her husband Lex Luger because he was beating the shit out of her at the time
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 25, 2010, 04:10:07 PM
Ms Elizabeth.  I blame it on her husband Lex Luger because he was beating the shit out of her at the time
Thanks I couldnt remember.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: Lundgren on April 25, 2010, 04:16:02 PM
There's maybe a short list that made more that say 400 grand a year a very short list. Put it this way if they didn't carry a the heavy weight title they didn't make shit. Even if they made 400 k a year it don't compared to average jobs, when it's very short term and destroys your health. The entertainment industry sucks. Unless your world famous your better off being a doctor. Even a million a year sounds like a lot when you consider most celebrities only stay at there peak for about five years.
Title: Re: WWE fires 7 wrestlers in one day!!!!!
Post by: billytwolips on April 26, 2010, 12:21:29 AM
Ms Elizabeth.  I blame it on her husband Lex Luger because he was beating the shit out of her at the time

And who the fuck are you that your opinion should mean a thing? Let me guess, I should keep my mouth shut because my post count is so low, hey?

Oh, by the way...Bret Hart was worth everything he got and more - he was one of the people that carried the WWF in the 90's and was always able to put on a 5-star match with anyone and make them look like star at the same time! Get a clue, ass clown!