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bigger than Ryan Leaf even
Report: Raiders preparing to cut JaMarcus Russell
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John Clayton just said on ESPN’s “NFL Live” that the Raiders are preparing the process of cutting quarterback JaMarcus Russell.
Clayton said it is not a matter of if, but when Russell will be cut. He also said the team could release Russell before Oakland’s minicamp, which runs Friday through Sunday, and that there is no trade market for him. The Raiders will save more than $6 million if they cut Russell this year.
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he could not play from day one. when are coaches and teams gonna learn that a quarterback needs to pass the ball? kneegrows dont do that
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isnt he that fat fuck?
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No this is the biggest sports bust ever
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i'm not fball fan but i did watch russell during his lsu yrs n NC. he is what is broke about the national felon league. too much, too soon before he actually proved he could play. yet another draft of busts coming. nfl needs to fix its' cap like nba for 3 yr guys.
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why would he even bother learning the playbook when he had everything before the 1st snap?
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Very few girls can actually make it in the NFL. Jamarcus wasn't one of them.
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Bigger even than Marinovich (I'm dating myself here)? Than the incredible bulk, Tony Mandarich? Than the Boz? That's saying something, considering the NFL has some all-time epic busts...
Yes , but Marinovich's band SCURVY rocked !!!!!!!
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ask any LSU fan and they'll tell you the raiders were morons for falling for the juice.
Dude cost us a national title vs auburn and florida, never was able to check down at all, just had a big arm.
They fell for it. I'm not surprised he's struggled so much at all. Raiders scouting is terrible if you ask me.
Ryan leaf still has the title. Him and manning were neck and neck that year and after watching him (leaf) play in the rose bowl, he had a lot of people convinced he was the real deal including myself.
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Eric Lindros never lived up to the hype either , nor reached his potential .
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Eric Lindros never lived up to the hype either , nor reached his potential .
Lindros actually had some success though in his career. He also had injury problems.
I give a pass to a guy who gets injured. To me a bust is a guy who had control over their circumstances but simply did not live up to his hype.
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Lindros actually had some success though in his career. He also had injury problems.
I give a pass to a guy who gets injured. To me a bust is a guy who had control over their circumstances but simply did not live up to his hype.
Ok , I Concur , he wasn't a bust , he had a soft head and i think a bad shoulder , perhaps he should have played with the Quebec Nordiques, and not have sat out that season . After he said , " J'aime jouer les Nordiques " after he was drafted, and then never showed up to camp, i lost respect for the man, not the player. I believe , He did win a Canada Cup .
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JeMarcus is a JeDumbass.
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i'm not fball fan but i did watch russell during his lsu yrs n NC. he is what is broke about the national felon league. too much, too soon before he actually proved he could play. yet another draft of busts coming. nfl needs to fix its' cap like nba for 3 yr guys.
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why would he even bother learning the playbook when he had everything before the 1st snap?
Russell has to be one of the smartest players ever. Knew he couldn't play, made people believe he could, held out to get a big contract, and then got paid. A true legal scam. But he was a bust. Leave it to the Raiders to make bad decisions though.
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Russell has to be one of the smartest players ever. Knew he couldn't play, made people believe he could, held out to get a big contract, and then got paid. A true legal scam. But he was a bust. Leave it to the Raiders to make bad decisions though.
True...I def. can't knock him for playing alone. He got the raider for how much? Like 30 or 40 million guaranteed? Wow
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i'm not fball fan but i did watch russell during his lsu yrs n NC. he is what is broke about the national felon league. too much, too soon before he actually proved he could play. yet another draft of busts coming. nfl needs to fix its' cap like nba for 3 yr guys.
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why would he even bother learning the playbook when he had everything before the 1st snap?
Hey yo who day niggah be?
Dat niggah be flossin da phat ice dogg. Dat niggah be melted!
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ask any LSU fan and they'll tell you the raiders were morons for falling for the juice.
Dude cost us a national title vs auburn and florida, never was able to check down at all, just had a big arm.
They fell for it. I'm not surprised he's struggled so much at all. Raiders scouting is terrible if you ask me.
Ryan leaf still has the title. Him and manning were neck and neck that year and after watching him (leaf) play in the rose bowl, he had a lot of people convinced he was the real deal including myself.
Just came out recently saying how he blew it and got hooked on painkillers. At least he owned up to it and isn't blaming anyone else for being a bust, I dint think you will hear the same from Russell. Guess Leaf would be the bigger bust since he had actual NFL skills and Russell was a pretender
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Biggest ever?
no one cares outside of america man :P
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Biggest ever?
no one cares outside of america man :P
American sports are the only ones that matter
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Just came out recently saying how he blew it and got hooked on painkillers. At least he owned up to it and isn't blaming anyone else for being a bust, I dint think you will hear the same from Russell. Guess Leaf would be the bigger bust since he had actual NFL skills and Russell was a pretender
I watch leaf that year and he had all the goods. Him and manning were a toss up at the time. The only knock of either of them was manning not being able to win the big game and he got happy feat under pressure.
Leaf was a man amongst boys. Running over linebackers, throwing ropes after checking downs,arm, height, was tough....I was sold he'd be the man in the league
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Biggest ever?
no one cares outside of america man :P
Do they even have sports in Sweden? ;D
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Do they even have sports in Sweden? ;D
We're/been the best in the world in Many sports =)
5 golds in the winter olympics vs Usa's 9.
Sweden 9 million people, Usa 300 million + =)
and we have been the best in the world at Many summer sports also.
So I would say we're more impressive then the states if we compare it to population actually..
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American sports are the only ones that matter
thats not your typical american
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We're/been the best in the world in Many sports =)
5 golds in the winter olympics vs Usa's 9.
Sweden 9 million people, Usa 300 million + =)
and we have been the best in the world at Many summer sports also.
So I would say we're more impressive then the states if we compare it to population actually..
The majority of Americans couldn't give a flying fuck about winter sports. Hence, why the nightly showings of the Olympics struggled to break 20 million viewers. ::)
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HAHAHA. Drafting a negro as a QB first overall. That has worked out well in the past ::) ::) ::) Michael Vick anyone? HAHAHAHAHAHA
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HAHAHA. Drafting a negro as a QB first overall. That has worked out well in the past ::) ::) ::) Michael Vick anyone? HAHAHAHAHAHA
Donovan McNabb? Warren Moon? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You're a retard. ::)
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thats not your typical american
How are American sports viewed from the rest of the world Swede? Does anyone take an interest in them or do they just like soccer(football)? Americans are totally oblivious that soccer is the biggest sport in the world outside of the US
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The majority of Americans couldn't give a flying fuck about winter sports. Hence, why the nightly showings of the Olympics struggled to break 20 million viewers. ::)
We have taken 147 olympic gold medals..
28 of which is in Wrestling, thats not a winter game is it? =)
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Donovan McNabb? Warren Moon? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You're a retard. ::)
Not first overall. Moon played in the CFL for 5 years prior. And McNabb? Real winner right there.
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Here we go, We have taken gold in (summer sports) :
High jump
"3 steps jump"
heptathlon
Shooting
Swimming
canou
100m hurdle
Tabletennis
fencing
3000m with obsticle
sailing
horse riding
Gymnastics
etc etc
amazing considiring our population IMO.
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We have taken 147 olympic gold medals..
28 of which is in Wrestling, thats not a winter game is it? =)
Wow, 147! The USA won 38 in the 2008 Olympics and 35 in the 2004 Olympics. Not going to bother going farther back than that.
Congrats on winning 0 golds and 5 overall medals in the 2008 games, though. :D
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How are American sports viewed from the rest of the world Swede? Does anyone take an interest in them or do they just like soccer(football)? Americans are totally oblivious that soccer is the biggest sport in the world outside of the US
98% (feeling generous) of swedes would have No idea who Anyone in NFL or Baseball is/was..
I can udnerstand why merica doesnt like football though, because if your used to watching hard hits oin American football even though they blow the damn whistle ALL THE TIME its a hard tranisiton to see #### throwing themself in football for the slighests of hits.. (pisses me off also)
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Wow, 147! The USA won 38 in the 2008 Olympics and 35 in the 2004 Olympics. Not going to bother going farther back than that.
Congrats on winning 0 golds and 5 overall medals in the 2008 games, though. :D
Besides the fact that Americans dont care about the Olympics nearly as much as they use to. Little kids arent training from the age of 3 to reach their dream of being in the Olympics. The best athletes are training for NFL,MLB,NBA,etc. They wanna get paid not get gold medals. We would own the Olympics more so then we already do if we cared as much as other countries
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98% (feeling generous) of swedes would have No idea who Anyone in NFL or Baseball is/was..
I can udnerstand why merica doesnt like football though, because if your used to watching hard hits oin American football even though they blow the damn whistle ALL THE TIME its a hard tranisiton to see #### throwing themself in football for the slighests of hits..
Most soccer players are pussies. Nothing is more annoying than watching some guy flop around on the ground because someone touched his shirt, acting like he was near death, only to pop back into the game 2 minutes later.
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Wow, 147! The USA won 38 in the 2008 Olympics and 35 in the 2004 Olympics. Not going to bother going farther back than that.
Congrats on winning 0 golds and 5 overall medals in the 2008 games, though. :D
and out of those 35 golds how many were actually Americans. As in the people that ruined the indians, White americans.. =) not ----African---- Americans.
phelps comes to mind, besides that ehh well... hmm... ehh... lol
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Most soccer players are pussies. Nothing is more annoying than watching some guy flop around on the ground because someone touched his shirt, acting like he was near death, only to pop back into the game 2 minutes later.
Agreed.
BUT Watching nfl and having them run for 10sec then rest for 1 min then run 5 sec then rest for 4 min then run for 21 sec then rest for 10 min its pretty fucking annoying also =)
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and out of those 35 golds how many were actually Americans. As in the people that ruined the indians, White americans.. =) not ----African---- Americans.
phelps comes to mind, besides that ehh well... hmm... ehh... lol
Now you have to be a white American? What a pathetic argument. Americans come in all shapes, sizes, races and creeds. The people winning those Gold medals were citizens and qualified to participate for America in the games. If you have a problem with that, take it up with the Olympic committee.
Agreed.
BUT Watching nfl and having them run for 10sec then rest for 1 min then run 5 sec then rest for 4 min then run for 21 sec then rest for 10 min its pretty fucking annoying also =)
I don't find it anymore boring than watching guys kick a ball around a field for 90 minutes with maybe one goal being scored. Now that's boring.
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98% (feeling generous) of swedes would have No idea who Anyone in NFL or Baseball is/was..
I can udnerstand why merica doesnt like football though, because if your used to watching hard hits oin American football even though they blow the damn whistle ALL THE TIME its a hard tranisiton to see #### throwing themself in football for the slighests of hits.. (pisses me off also)
Why would we care for your sports when you don't like ours. Makes perfect sense you guys like boring shit big deal, move along, this thread is for people interested in american sports ;D
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We're/been the best in the world in Many sports =)
5 golds in the winter olympics vs Usa's 9.
Sweden 9 million people, Usa 300 million + =)
and we have been the best in the world at Many summer sports also.
So I would say we're more impressive then the states if we compare it to population actually..
They run like black girls. Kallur twins for the win...
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Agreed.
BUT Watching nfl and having them run for 10sec then rest for 1 min then run 5 sec then rest for 4 min then run for 21 sec then rest for 10 min its pretty fucking annoying also =)
Football is totally overated as far as the conditioning you need. I could give a shit about soccer but it is one of the most physically demanding sports.
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Football is totally overated as far as the conditioning you need. I could give a shit about soccer but it is one of the most physically demanding sports.
Hahaha! That's a really good joke. Skill position players in the NFL are better athletes than anything the soccer world can produce.
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Hahaha! That's a really good joke. Skill position players in the NFL are better athletes than anything the soccer world can produce.
I agree. Just talking about the conditioning required to play each sport. Football players sprint for about ten seconds then take a break. Soccer is nonstop. No question the all around skills football players have, jumping, speed, strength,etc blows soccer away
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I agree. Just talking about the conditioning required to play each sport. Football players sprint for about ten seconds then take a break. Soccer is nonstop. No question the all around skills football players have, jumping, speed, strength,etc blows soccer away
I never understood this claim about soccer being non-stop. The only people who seem to consistently move are the mid-fielders. The other guys spend the majority of the game walking around or sitting still while they wait for the ball to come back down the field, which could be anywhere from 10 seconds to 5+ minutes. Then the ball gets kicked down field and the guys at the front sprint for a few seconds while everyone else walks around.
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Donovan McNabb? Warren Moon? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You're a retard. Roll Eyes
Donovan McNabb was the #2 pick overall in the 1999 draft. The player that was selected #1 overall was QB Tim Couch of Kentucky, selected by the Cleveland Browns.
And Warren Moon had to first prove himself in the Canadian Foot Ball League.
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I never understood this claim about soccer being non-stop. The only people who seem to consistently move are the mid-fielders. The other guys spend the majority of the game walking around or sitting still while they wait for the ball to come back down the field, which could be anywhere from 10 seconds to 5+ minutes. Then the ball gets kicked down field and the guys at the front sprint for a few seconds while everyone else walks around.
same here... fools kill me with that line when there is a debate (insert) vs soccer. Do an few shifts in hockey with all that sh*t on...yes. carry the football 5-6 straight times with all that sh*t on..yes.
..standing up 50+ yards away from the nearest ball on a big a$$ field with a checkerboard shirt on and high shorts looking like a complete a$$ with shin guards on....NOPE
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same here... fools kill me with that line when there is a debate (insert) vs soccer. Do an few shifts in hockey with all that sh*t on...yes. carry the football 5-6 straight times with all that sh*t on..yes.
..standing up 50+ yards away from the nearest ball on a big a$$ field with a checkerboard shirt on and high shorts looking like a complete a$$ with shin guards on....NOPE
They'll respond with something like, "But soccer players run upwards of 5 miles a game" as if running 5 miles over the course of 90 minutes is impressive. I've seen 10 year olds run 5k's in 20-something minutes and while it's not 5 miles, double it to 10k and they're still under 90 minutes while running a longer distance.
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I agree. Just talking about the conditioning required to play each sport. Football players sprint for about ten seconds then take a break. Soccer is nonstop. No question the all around skills football players have, jumping, speed, strength,etc blows soccer away
Lineman push against 270lbs plus at full speed each play. Try doing that for an hour with a 20 second break after each 5 second all out push. Kinda tough.
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They'll respond with something like, "But soccer players run upwards of 5 miles a game" as if running 5 miles over the course of 90 minutes is impressive. I've seen 10 year olds run 5k's in 20-something minutes and while it's not 5 miles, double it to 10k and they're still under 90 minutes while running a longer distance.
NO shit! Nothing like a grueling 18 minute mile.
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How are American sports viewed from the rest of the world Swede? Does anyone take an interest in them or do they just like soccer(football)? Americans are totally oblivious that soccer is the biggest sport in the world outside of the US
Most euros know who Michael Jordan, Shaq, Kobe, Bird, Magic are.Nobody in europe could name an american footballer, baseballer or ice hockey player except maybe OJ simpson if any remembered he even played football, Babe Ruth or Gretzky and the chances of them knowing any of them are low.
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bigger than Ryan Leaf even
Report: Raiders preparing to cut JaMarcus Russell
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John Clayton just said on ESPN’s “NFL Live” that the Raiders are preparing the process of cutting quarterback JaMarcus Russell.
Clayton said it is not a matter of if, but when Russell will be cut. He also said the team could release Russell before Oakland’s minicamp, which runs Friday through Sunday, and that there is no trade market for him. The Raiders will save more than $6 million if they cut Russell this year.
for the biggest sports bust ever google todd marinovich football.
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Most euros know who Michael Jordan, Shaq, Kobe, Bird, Magic are.Nobody in europe could name an american footballer, baseballer or ice hockey player except maybe OJ simpson if any remembered he even played football, Babe Ruth or Gretzky and the chances of them knowing any of them are low.
So you are saying that not one european could name a single NFL football player? Not even the sell-out crowd that attended th preseason games in London? Or how about the few million households who watch the superbowl? C'mon.....
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for the biggest sports bust ever google todd marinovich football.
good one.
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Russel was a lazy POS. I guess he was probably a decent athlete, but he obviously just didn't want to play football. He should have been cut long ago. From what I understand, he's refused to even practice/train this pre-season, so I guess they finally had no choice.
P.S. for those who say he "made his money," he'll be broke in 5 years, just like all the others.
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Others that come to mind:
Heath Shuler
Ki-jana Carter
Brian Bosworth
The Bengals had to be one of the most cursed teams. Many first round picks totally bombed.
Ki-jana Carter, Akili Smith, Dan Wilkenson, Peter Warick, David Klingler.
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Others that come to mind:
Heath Shuler
Ki-jana Carter
Brian Bosworth
The Bengals had to be one of the most cursed teams. Many first round picks totally bombed.
Ki-jana Carter, Akili Smith, Dan Wilkenson, Peter Warick, David Klingler.
You can't call Carter, bosworth and smith a bust. They have some serious injuries that ended it early. Who knows how they would have ended up. Bosworth also wasn't considered to be a top pick by most experts. His self promoting made him out to be better than he was. Bosworth was built on hype and nothing else. A media darling.
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You can't call Carter, bosworth and smith a bust. They have some serious injuries that ended it early. Who knows how they would have ended up. Bosworth also wasn't considered to be a top pick by most experts. His self promoting made him out to be better than he was. Bosworth was built on hype and nothing else. A media darling.
Carter played 10 years, and though tore his ACL, compared to other RB's that have had the same injury, Frank Gore for example, he never did much.
Akili Smith flat out sucked. Held out in camp and I don't recall a serious injury.
As for Bosworth, still a bust if drafted in the first round and expected to help totally change or improve the Seahawks.
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Carter played 10 years, and though tore his ACL, compared to other RB's that have had the same injury, Frank Gore for example, he never did much.
Akili Smith flat out sucked. Held out in camp and I don't recall a serious injury.
As for Bosworth, still a bust if drafted in the first round and expected to help totally change or improve the Seahawks.
Yes but surgery procedures over the last decade are far more advanced. Shawn Merriman with the same injury 10 years ago would have been out of the league but with today's medicine is still playing.
Calling Bosworth and Russell a bust is incorrect. Seattle and Oakland are the busts for falling for the hype.
If a team decides to draft a 4th rounder first overall who's fault is it? The player for playing like a fourth rounder or the team for picking that player so high?
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Out of the NFL world for a sec....
Sam Bowie...the guy drafted before Jordan.
Dontrelle Willis, ex-Florida Marlins and Detroit Tigers pitcher. He pitched brilliantly with Florida, capturing a World Series in '03. He was then traded to Detroit, where he battled depression and a rapidly declining career. I believe he went to Double AA soon after joining the Tigers.
Ah, Jamarcus Russell. He's the guy that skipped the mandatory Raiders meeting once the season was over.......for a weekend bender in Vegas. Shit, as it stands, Oakland has 6 fuckin' QBs on its roster, lol.
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Not first overall. Moon played in the CFL for 5 years prior. And McNabb? Real winner right there.
Doug Williams...you my friend = retarded
And if youre gonna do that
David Carr
Tim Couch
Bro...dont be racist..it makes you look like a fucking idiot retard
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Donovan McNabb was the #2 pick overall in the 1999 draft. The player that was selected #1 overall was QB Tim Couch of Kentucky, selected by the Cleveland Browns.
And Warren Moon had to first prove himself in the Canadian Foot Ball League.
how did couch do?
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Doug Williams...you my friend = retarded
And if youre gonna do that
David Carr
Tim Couch
Bro...dont be racist..it makes you look like a fucking idiot retard
He was the exception, not the norm.
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Yes but surgery procedures over the last decade are far more advanced. Shawn Merriman with the same injury 10 years ago would have been out of the league but with today's medicine is still playing.
Modern sports medicine is really pretty amazing! Brandon Roy (NBA) had surgery for a torn meniscus in his knee, and was playing professional playoffs basketball eight days later.
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Out of the NFL world for a sec....
Sam Bowie...the guy drafted before Jordan.
Dontrelle Willis, ex-Florida Marlins and Detroit Tigers pitcher. He pitched brilliantly with Florida, capturing a World Series in '03. He was then traded to Detroit, where he battled depression and a rapidly declining career. I believe he went to Double AA soon after joining the Tigers.
Ah, Jamarcus Russell. He's the guy that skipped the mandatory Raiders meeting once the season was over.......for a weekend bender in Vegas. Shit, as it stands, Oakland has 6 fuckin' QBs on its roster, lol.
for basketball i'd give it to greg oden, a has been before he was a never was as a pro. baseball would have to be brien taylor hotshot no 1 of the ny yankees 1 million out of highschool because he could throw 99 mph as a senior. got in a fight never pitched effectively again at any level.
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for basketball i'd give it to greg oden, a has been before he was a never was as a pro. baseball would have to be brien taylor hotshot no 1 of the ny yankees 1 million out of highschool because he could throw 99 mph as a senior. got in a fight never pitched effectively again at any level.
Ugh, I remember brien taylor ::). From what I can remember (I was 10) there were alot of other top picks that were never heard of again....
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Ugh, I remember brien taylor ::). From what I can remember (I was 10) there were alot of other top picks that were never heard of again....
quite a few but brien was one of the most hyped and paid being the modern era of sports.
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brien taylor.
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taylor struck out 213 out of the posssible 264 outs he made as a senior.
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todd marinovich was groomed to be a quarterback from birth, his father had him doing position specific drills as an infant. he fed him only the finest foods and drilled him without mercy till he got drafted and stunk up the nfl. his father now trains mma fighters.
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for basketball i'd give it to greg oden, a has been before he was a never was as a pro. baseball would have to be brien taylor hotshot no 1 of the ny yankees 1 million out of highschool because he could throw 99 mph as a senior. got in a fight never pitched effectively again at any level.
I'd nominate Len Bias before Greg Oden.
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have you ever heard of a kid having a better hs career than this guy. i heard he did pretty well as a pro also.
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Out of the NFL world for a sec....
Sam Bowie...the guy drafted before Jordan.
Nah, not a bust, well it sort of is a bust, but its a portland bust,
whats a "Bust"? to me its if they were excellent in college and cant do anything in the NBA..like Michael beasley and Kwame Brown.
Is greg oden a bust? well, we know he can play when his healthy, but can you call someone a bust if there injury prone? it must kill portland managment to see Durant destroying the NBA today
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Nah, not a bust, well it sort of is a bust, but its a portland bust,
whats a "Bust"? to me its if they were excellent in college and cant do anything in the NBA..like Michael beasley and Kwame Brown.
Is greg oden a bust? well, we know he can play when his healthy, but can you call someone a bust if there injury prone? it must kill portland managment to see Durant destroying the NBA today
greg oden number one pick kevin durant number two what a difference a pick can make.
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how did couch do?
I think the Browns cut him after a couple of years