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was anyone here smart enough to major in medicine?
if so, can you describe it? i've always been fascinated by sick people
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my wife is a doctor... she says most of them are assholes.
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I studied Alternative Medicine.
A little Ginger Root will clear that Cancer right up.
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My entire family is practically all either Doctors or Engineers, some are Both (PHD in Engineering lol)
I opted for the engineering route :-)
But my doctor aunt used to get me free dextrose from the hospital for post-work out supplementation LOL
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Too much school, not enough reward and way overworked.
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under obamacare, doctors will make more $ going on welfare. I saw it on FOX.
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My entire family is practically all either Doctors or Engineers, some are Both (PHD in Engineering lol)
I opted for the engineering route :-)
But my doctor aunt used to get me free dextrose from the hospital for post-work out supplementation LOL
why dont you ask her to get you some test and gh or something ;D
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why dont you ask her to get you some test and gh or something ;D
No need - this was all in Egypt..... and in Egypt, aaaaalll that stuff is cheap and legal, you can walk into any pharmacy and just buy it!
Either way I'm natural so it doesn't really matter to me lol
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was anyone here smart enough to major in medicine?
if so, can you describe it? i've always been fascinated by sick people
helping sick people is a great feeling.
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was anyone here smart enough to major in medicine?
if so, can you describe it? i've always been fascinated by sick people
You're quite the sick fvck yourself, marty.
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Marty is awesome!!
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helping sick people is a great feeling.
But just being fascinated by them is even better, because they're the sick ones, not you. ;D
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I majored in "underground Medicines" like narcotics...
I even have a license to self medicate... 8)
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All arabs study engineering
its weird
seedy girls
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But just being fascinated by them is even better, because they're the sick ones, not you. ;D
Lol
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put some aloe on it.
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Goodrum is probably the most experienced doctor we have on getbig, just ask him
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Marty is awesome!!
QFT!
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nah to smart
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was anyone here smart enough to major in medicine?
if so, can you describe it? i've always been fascinated by sick people
How will you have time with Majoring in Medicine when you have a fight coming up at this local show this year in a city in your town?
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How will you have time with Majoring in Medicine when you have a fight coming up at this local show this year in a city in your town?
Marty can do anything. He's awesome!
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Marty can do anything. He's awesome!
This is true.
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Too much school, not enough reward and way overworked.
My sis is a doc, and currentlyt the chair for internal medicine at Ohio St school of medicine.
I agree, about the huge amount of time, enery and resource.
I walked out of my med school interview many yrs ago and never had any regrets.
I don't have (nor desrve) the status and income of my sis or most docs, but I enjoy a more relaxed lifestyle so I will take the trade off
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I work for a big pharma company selling pills to docs is my job....my observation is that most Primary Care docs are miserable and most are probably not making the money they thought they would be when they chose medicine as a profession. 90% of them are overworked and overscrutinized by managed care plans and the like.
Now the Specialists on the other hand (Cardiologists, Uros, Derms, etc) are the ones raking in big money and seem happier in general. However the specialists have gone to school even longer than standard docs and have definitely put in a tremendous amount of time and energy (not to mention $$$) to become specialty docs in the first place.
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My wife is a nurse praticioner. Less schooling and she does ok. Works 40-50 hours a week I think she's at around 130 a year, which covers our car payments and dinners.
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My wife is a nurse praticioner. Less schooling and she does ok. Works 40-50 hours a week I think she's at around 130 a year, which covers our car payments and dinners.
Awesome! ;D
Livin' the life!
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under obamacare, doctors will make more $ going on welfare. I saw it on FOX.
Under Obama care no one will want to become a doctor!
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I heard the worm is a doc...
i remember back when he posted his MD degree on here, ultimately making a fool of squadfather back in the day.
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I work for a big pharma company selling pills to docs is my job....my observation is that most Primary Care docs are miserable and most are probably not making the money they thought they would be when they chose medicine as a profession. 90% of them are overworked and overscrutinized by managed care plans and the like.
Now the Specialists on the other hand (Cardiologists, Uros, Derms, etc) are the ones raking in big money and seem happier in general. However the specialists have gone to school even longer than standard docs and have definitely put in a tremendous amount of time and energy (not to mention $$$) to become specialty docs in the first place.
my wife is a specialist in radiology and does pretty well... mid 6 figures.
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was anyone here smart enough to major in medicine?
Nope.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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All arabs study engineering
its weird
seedy girls
And yet pretty much all the engineers orking at the project of the gigantic ne building in Dubai are from China and India and the architects are all European. Arabs: incompetent at everything except murdering people.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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And yet pretty much all the engineers orking at the project of the gigantic ne building in Dubai are from China and India and the architects are all European. Arabs: incompetent at everything except murdering people.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
:( But I'm an Arab and I'm an Engineer, and I haven't murdered anyone :(
LOL I've been to Burj Khalifa (Formerly Burj Dubai) pretty damn impressive, just Massive, its pretty cool when you see it from the plane just towers up to the clouds!
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i work in a hospital and most doctors i bump into or interact with are fucking assholes. they really dont give a shit about anyone. probably because they are either overworked or just arrogant. healthcare is a great field to be in. even techs and specialists from a 2 year program can make great money like 80k starting. nursing starts around 100k too but most nurses i know have too many patients and way too stressed out. im aiming to get into PT school so i can set my own hours and make decent pay without wanting to blow my brains out after a shift
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Under Obama care no one will want to become a doctor!
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You seriously need to quit watching Fox News. The Health Care System was broken long before Obama was elected. There's been a decline in the profession of doctors for many years now so its not going to get worse than it already is.
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You seriously need to quit watching Fox News. The Health Care System was broken long before Obama was elected. There's been a decline in the profession of doctors for many years now so its not going to get worse than it already is.
decline in general practitioners yes...but most go into a specialized field now.
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You seriously need to quit watching Fox News. The Health Care System was broken long before Obama was elected. There's been a decline in the profession of doctors for many years now so its not going to get worse than it already is.
you are wrong sir! very ignorant on this topic. With this shit passing, about 30% of docs are seriously considering retiring...
with more regulations, more and more smart American students are not going into med school and you are having more foreign med grads come over and be your doc.
why would anyone want to be a doc? go to 12 years of school, average dept of 200k, then work harder and see more and more patients just to make money. docs are going to be forced to see more and more medicaid patients for a lower and lower income. why would anyone wanna be a doctor in that enviroment?
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You seriously need to quit watching Fox News. The Health Care System was broken long before Obama was elected. There's been a decline in the profession of doctors for many years now so its not going to get worse than it already is.
You seriously need to finish the 8th grade.
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i work in a hospital and most doctors i bump into or interact with are fucking assholes. they really dont give a shit about anyone. probably because they are either overworked or just arrogant. healthcare is a great field to be in. even techs and specialists from a 2 year program can make great money like 80k starting. nursing starts around 100k too but most nurses i know have too many patients and way too stressed out. im aiming to get into PT school so i can set my own hours and make decent pay without wanting to blow my brains out after a shift
what the fucck are you talking about??
$80k after a 2 year program? Hahha
$100k for nurses? STARTING? maybe so...only if you're in a place where you can work overtime & it's near 100 hours a week.
Nursing managers don't even make six figures. You have no clue.
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what the fucck are you talking about??
$80k after a 2 year program? Hahha
$100k for nurses? STARTING? maybe so...only if you're in a place where you can work overtime & it's near 100 hours a week.
Nursing managers don't even make six figures. You have no clue.
This is in Canada, but technicians make crap money. X-ray technicians and sterile processing technicians make shit money. I wouldn't advocate 1-2 years of training to make 30-50 grand per year max. Unskilled labour makes that much here.
Nurses here, from what I gather from friends in the profession, start at around $28.00/hr , give or take. Other guitar player in my band is married to a nurse of 20 or so years and she make approx 80 grand a year before taxes. She is the head nurse at a local clinic.
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what the fucck are you talking about??
$80k after a 2 year program? Hahha
$100k for nurses? STARTING? maybe so...only if you're in a place where you can work overtime & it's near 100 hours a week.
Nursing managers don't even make six figures. You have no clue.
While I can't speak for anyone coming out of some 2 year program making 80K, I will say that the average pay for nurses in big states like NY or California is around 80-90K and with overtime, most nurses see around 100K easy.
Nurse Practitioners usually start at around 110K - 120K, again depending on their state of practice.
Medical Doctors, practicing Internal Medicine at a teaching hospital, can start anywhere between 125K - 175K, depending on the demand.
Specialists (Attendings in the realm of Cardiac, GI, GU, Pulmonologists MDs) can start between 250K-350K...
Surgery is where the money is truly at. Neurosurgeons, CardioThoracic surgeons, Colorectal and Orthopedic surgeons can make around half a million a year if they wanted to.
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While I can't speak for anyone coming out of some 2 year program making 80K, I will say that the average pay for nurses in big states like NY or California is around 80-90K and with overtime, most nurses see around 100K easy.
Yep. I know nurses 'down south' making 100k.
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Pluck,
In defense of YoungRhoads, here is a summary snapshot of what a head nurse or Nurse Manager makes in NYC starting, in particular, look at the median rate..
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P.S. Why exactly they make that much, don't know..
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While I can't speak for anyone coming out of some 2 year program making 80K, I will say that the average pay for nurses in big states like NY or California is around 80-90K and with overtime, most nurses see around 100K easy.
Nurse Practitioners usually start at around 110K - 120K, again depending on their state of practice.
Medical Doctors, practicing Internal Medicine at a teaching hospital, can start anywhere between 125K - 175K, depending on the demand.
Specialists (Attendings in the realm of Cardiac, GI, GU, Pulmonologists MDs) can start between 250K-350K...
Surgery is where the money is truly at. Neurosurgeons, CardioThoracic surgeons, Colorectal and Orthopedic surgeons can make around half a million a year if they wanted to.
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I work at a hospital so I know the ranges of salaries and my buddy's girl is a nurse at Loyola in Chicago.
Starting pay she's around $26/hour.
Most private hospitals frown on overtime. Goverment funded hospitals will let you work all the overtime you want in the world. A year or so ago the Chicago Tribune reported nurses making more than doctors with all the overtime...80+ hour weeks. Sure as a nurse you can make over $100K a year as a nurse...but you have to put in a lot of overtime.
Nurse practioners make great salary.
Specialists make bank too. They pay a lot in malpractice though.
I don't know about Canada salaries...but if that's true then wtf!
Just based off that graph those salaries are wayyy more than I know nursing managers make here in suburban Chicagoland. WHo knows how accurate it is though?
But with 20 years expereince with a degreee in MOST fields you're going to make atleast 80K/year.
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you are wrong sir! very ignorant on this topic. With this shit passing, about 30% of docs are seriously considering retiring...
with more regulations, more and more smart American students are not going into med school and you are having more foreign med grads come over and be your doc.
why would anyone want to be a doc? go to 12 years of school, average dept of 200k, then work harder and see more and more patients just to make money. docs are going to be forced to see more and more medicaid patients for a lower and lower income. why would anyone wanna be a doctor in that enviroment?
You are wrong here. Goodrum started studying last week and through his online medical degree school he will have his license in 7 days and it only cost $75 plus $10 license fee (for frame), and $15 fee for the right to put M.D. after his name.
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under obamacare, doctors will make more $ going on welfare. I saw it on FOX.
LOL they are like the onion
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While I can't speak for anyone coming out of some 2 year program making 80K, I will say that the average pay for nurses in big states like NY or California is around 80-90K and with overtime, most nurses see around 100K easy.
Nurse Practitioners usually start at around 110K - 120K, again depending on their state of practice.
Medical Doctors, practicing Internal Medicine at a teaching hospital, can start anywhere between 125K - 175K, depending on the demand.
Specialists (Attendings in the realm of Cardiac, GI, GU, Pulmonologists MDs) can start between 250K-350K...
Surgery is where the money is truly at. Neurosurgeons, CardioThoracic surgeons, Colorectal and Orthopedic surgeons can make around half a million a year if they wanted to.
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man this is disgusting, this is healthcare, helping people out and get better, yet the Republicans look at it as a business to cash in on. Pure disgust :(
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repubs do not look at it as a biz. are you kidding me?
what they do not tell you is that the average dept is 200k. Malpractice insurance is another 90k for some docs. Overhead is usally another 50% of that "income," then you get taxed about 42% on the rest.
It take the average doc 20+ years just to catch up to the plumber who has been working since high school.
I think repubs understand this and do not want their doc to be Habib from Pakistan.
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As my degree was mostly maths and I'm doing a part time degree which include financial maths, I'd say you need more 'smartness' to understand the complexities rather than forcing swaths of information into your skull as doctors mostly need to do in training. Both my cousins are en route to becoming doctors and my mum is a consultant specialising in internal medicine. There is some science to it but it's mostly just tons of info for trainee doctors.
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its not all how much info you can cram in, James, its also (and more importantly) on how you apply it.
neverthess, the thread title on this should be "anyone on here smart enough to NOT go into medicine?" lol.
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LOL they are like the onion
ahhaha...true
the idea that no one will want to be a doctor is bullshit. the thing is, medical schools have so far been a "rich kids club", and that will now have to change. sounds like a good plan
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man this is disgusting, this is healthcare, helping people out and get better, yet the Republicans look at it as a business to cash in on. Pure disgust :(
Moron
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ahhaha...true
the idea that no one will want to be a doctor is bullshit. the thing is, medical schools have so far been a "rich kids club", and that will now have to change. sounds like a good plan
True, people will still want to be doctors, its just that the smarter more intelligent people will not want to become a doctor. too much work and money for little payout. See the problem?
there will still be doctors, however, their calliber will decline and more and more foreign med grads (who probably could not get into a US medical school) will be taking over.
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True, people will still want to be doctors, its just that the smarter more intelligent people will not want to become a doctor. too much work and moeny for little payout. See the problem?
do you mean "smart" in the sense that they're most concerned with making money
there will still be doctors, however, their calliber will decline and more and more foreign med grads (who probably could not get into a US medical school) will be taking over.
well, i agree that it would be a B_I_G fucking mistake to allow our medical establishment to become an outpost for fucking bombay "in'ja", because these mutherfuckers would do it. i hate this shit already
but believe that we'd easily be able to produce ample excellent doctors by vetting the right people from all income classes. really
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the problem is the lawyers not the doctors.
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do you mean "smart" in the sense that they're most concerned with making money
well, i agree that it would be a B_I_G fucking mistake to allow our medical establishment to become an outpost for fucking bombay "in'ja", because these mutherfuckers would do it. i hate this shit already
but believe that we'd easily be able to produce ample excellent doctors by vetting the right people from all income classes. really
it has nothing to do will class. why would ANY college student want to go to medical school? No one wants to sign up for 8 extra years of school, an extra 100K of dept, only to work harder and longer for less and less pay (which is excactly what the new health law does!) and face higher malpractice claims, and will be more likely sued cause he has to see soo many more people at lower reimbursement rates. why would anyone with any common sense sign up for somthing like this?
Hence, foreigners will be comming over to our med schools and becomming docs...
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what the fucck are you talking about??
$80k after a 2 year program? Hahha
$100k for nurses? STARTING? maybe so...only if you're in a place where you can work overtime & it's near 100 hours a week.
Nursing managers don't even make six figures. You have no clue.
in California, a BSN RN will make close to 100k starting. I know a girl that just got hired at something like $48 an hr. And my other claim about a 2 yr program, example: radiology tech OR ultrasound tech, can easily make a good living too. Don't call me clueless
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in California, a BSN RN will make close to 100k starting. I know a girl that just got hired at something like $48 an hr. And my other claim about a 2 yr program, example: radiology tech OR ultrasound tech, can easily make a good living too. Don't call me clueless
i'm a graduate of a 2 year community college health program and i concur with that statement..
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it has nothing to do will class. why would ANY college student want to go to medical school? No one wants to sign up for 8 extra years of school, an extra 100K of dept, only to work harder and longer for less and less pay (which is excactly what the new health law does!) and face higher malpractice claims, and will be more likely sued cause he has to see soo many more people at lower reimbursement rates. why would anyone with any common sense sign up for somthing like this?
Hence, foreigners will be comming over to our med schools and becomming docs...
I don't know maybe because they want to help people ??? Ever think it doesn't have something to do with money. You should do what your passionate about not what pays the most.
jt
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repubs do not look at it as a biz. are you kidding me?
what they do not tell you is that the average dept is 200k. Malpractice insurance is another 90k for some docs. Overhead is usally another 50% of that "income," then you get taxed about 42% on the rest.
It take the average doc 20+ years just to catch up to the plumber who has been working since high school.
I think repubs understand this and do not want their doc to be Habib from Pakistan.
Crazy shit right there...
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the problem is the lawyers not the doctors.
I have a friend in Scotsdale who is a practicing attorney for the past 5+ years and has his own medical practice for the past 25+ years. Best of both worlds
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repubs do not look at it as a biz. are you kidding me?
what they do not tell you is that the average dept is 200k. Malpractice insurance is another 90k for some docs. Overhead is usally another 50% of that "income," then you get taxed about 42% on the rest.
It take the average doc 20+ years just to catch up to the plumber who has been working since high school.
I think repubs understand this and do not want their doc to be Habib from Pakistan.
Worm, what say you about the WHO's 2000 ranking of national healthcare systems where the U.S. made 37th?
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in California, a BSN RN will make close to 100k starting. I know a girl that just got hired at something like $48 an hr. And my other claim about a 2 yr program, example: radiology tech OR ultrasound tech, can easily make a good living too. Don't call me clueless
Ok. You are clueless.
A fucking pharmacist with a Pharm D. and 1-2 year residency under their belt will make mid-low $90s starting out here in Chicago.
A NURSE starting pay making $100K ?? HAHAHAHA
A nurse anesthetist...yes. Not just your regular nurse who charts meds, starts IVs and monitors vitals.
That girl lied to you. No way she JUST has her BSN...master's at least.
...but then just breathing in CA is expensive.
Rad techs make DECENT money for the amount of schooling they put in which is 2 years...$45 is very generous starting pay.
BTW, it is not how SMART you are if you want to get into med school. It's how hard you work.
You can have an average intelligence person who can work their ass off and get into med school.
I knew plenty of "dummies" or just average kids in pre-med classes that worked really hard and got good grades...you would never judge them as the med school type.
Like a lot of people previously mentioned the money in medicine is in specialty fields like derm, cardio, ortho...etc.
I talk to a few docs at work and at my cigar lounge ...all say the same thing. The general practitioners and internal medicine guys are all going to be foreigners in the next 10-20 years because the cost of a U.S. med school is so effing expensive and the payout after malpractice, insurance company reimbursement, overhead...etc isn't what you think it would be. Dermatology is the most lucrative field right now because the malpractice is the lowest, it is easier to see more patients than let's say an OB GYN or cardiologist because all age groups have skin conditions acne in teens, scars in all people, skin cancer in older crowd...plus skin care is really expensive.
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I major in kinesiology in grad school. Lots of us like to pretend we know as much as doctors.
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Worm, what say you about the WHO's 2000 ranking of national healthcare systems where the U.S. made 37th?
probably has to do with the fact that the US has a lot of democrats and people who are completely irresposible with their own health, then roll into the ERs like train wrecks. then the rest of us have to pay. i do not think Sweden has a large percentage of non-working lower socio-economic status people who hang on their steps all day and have kid after kid!
what say you about this 'bruiser:" why does everyone in the world (Saudi Arabia, etc) fly here for their health care?
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Hm...I'd say cite the source first, then I'd think about it. I'm interested in hearing more though!
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site what source?
its common knowledge people fly in from all over the world to go to the Cleveland Clinic's Heart hospital...
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i was awesome at biology and was pre-med in college for a year.
unfortunately i sucked at chemistry. i got an mba without trying... but pre-med is something I have major respect for. beyond my skillset, that's for sure.
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yeah, i cannot think of any other job more presitigeous and intellectual stimulating as medicine...
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I'm a doctor in Ireland. 6 years med school. I thought about doing emergency for a short while but I'm glad I chose general surgery. I'm equivalent to what's called a 4th year resident in the States I think. Plenty of hard work and certainly not a career to choose if you are only motivated by money. Until the recent recession, junior doctors in Ireland could make a good living with overtime ($150,000 per year) but the health service is in shit financially now and most docs have taken up to 30% pay cuts in the last year. We also pay 50% tax on most of our salary. But then again, I didn't get into it for the money.
The Doc :)
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I'm a doctor in Ireland. 6 years med school. I thought about doing emergency for a short while but I'm glad I chose general surgery. I'm equivalent to what's called a 4th year resident in the States I think. Plenty of hard work and certainly not a career to choose if you are only motivated by money. Until the recent recession, junior doctors in Ireland could make a good living with overtime ($150,000 per year) but the health service is in shit financially now and most docs have taken up to 30% pay cuts in the last year. We also pay 50% tax on most of our salary. But then again, I didn't get into it for the money.
The Doc :)
whats your opinion on acne? what causes it?
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whats your opinion on acne? what causes it?
I'm a general surgeon so my dermatology is not the best. Some argue it's all hormonal. Vitamin A preperations seem to be effecive treatments.
The Doc
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whats your opinion on acne? what causes it?
one day this world will be acne free, hopefully they come up with a cure for it.
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i decided i want to pursue an associates in criminal justice instead
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I'm a general surgeon so my dermatology is not the best. Some argue it's all hormonal. Vitamin A preperations seem to be effecive treatments.
The Doc
testosterone esters don't help either.
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i decided i want to pursue an associates in criminal justice instead
That's good, you will certainly have some use of your UFC-skills there.
Always good to have as a "backup" you know? When things heat up.
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I blew off my med school interview to go on a wild journey to find a whitecastle with my asian buddy.