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Title: Serious question
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2010, 11:16:45 AM
How many of you under 200 pound beasts can bench a legit 300 pounds? When I say legit I mean no bridge, no bounce, and a slight pause at the chest. My PR is 255 at about a buck 70. Yeah I know that ain't so impressive. P.S. FYI, Tiger suposedly has or had a legit 300 pound bench.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: Tapeworm on May 31, 2010, 12:07:38 PM
Nope, can't do it.   

I only db bench because I believe it's better for my shoulders.  Couldn't do 300 bb or db tho.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: SF1900 on May 31, 2010, 12:09:07 PM
Like Tapeworm, I bench with dumbbells. However, I definitely can't bench 300 pounds w/a bb.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: chaos on May 31, 2010, 12:24:44 PM
Getbig is full of record breaking benchers/squatters/dlers.......they just don't compete because they don't want to embarrass the professional powerlifters. ;)
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: Tapeworm on May 31, 2010, 12:27:17 PM
Like Tapeworm, I bench with dumbbells. However, I definitely can't bench 300 pounds w/a bb.

Even when I used to bb bench I was more efficient than the big guys because I spent my time doing the actual lift instead of loading and unloading all those cumbersome plates.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: SF1900 on May 31, 2010, 12:35:03 PM
Even when I used to bb bench I was more efficient than the big guys because I spent my time doing the actual lift instead of loading and unloading all those cumbersome plates.

Its funny, because when I see people walk into the gym the first thing they do is barbell flat bench press. Is it really the best exercise for chest? if you're going to bench, isn't incline bench press more efficient anyway? I just think there is so much hype around the barbell flat bench press because Arnold used to do it a lot, and he had an insanely good chest. I mean, I could be wrong.

A year or so back, I remember some "beast" walking up to me and telling me I should do flat bench press. I asked him what was so good about flat bench pressing, and he was like "well, ya know, its just a good exercise, ya know." I guess he saw Arnold doing it, and assumed it was a great exercise for everyone. I am sure it works for tons of people, but never did much for me. To each their own.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2010, 12:47:36 PM
Some call the barbell bench press the upper body squat, but I think that dips come closer to fullfilling that claim. As far as training the chest is concerned, I think that DBs are better.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: SF1900 on May 31, 2010, 12:49:35 PM
Some call the barbell bench press the upper body squat, but I think that dips come closer to fullfilling that claim. As far as training the chest is concerned, I think that DBs are better.

Well, that is what I don't understand. Why has the barbell flat bench press become the bread-and-butter for chest exercises? Are there studies out there that show that the flat barbell bench press better stimulates muscle growth? Or does it have to do with seeing hundreds of pics of Arnold benching?
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2010, 12:57:41 PM
Actually I think it's because it's kind of a macho thing. And the fact that it sounds kind of silly to ask, "How much can ya dip" or "How much can ya dumbell bench" LOL P.S. Most bp champs have very large and strong tris, with average pecs, not all of them but most.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: SF1900 on May 31, 2010, 01:01:50 PM
Actually I think it's because it's kind of a macho thing. And the fact that it sounds kind of silly to ask, "How much can ya dip" or "How much can ya dumbell bench" LOL P.S. Most bp champs have very large and strong tris, with average pecs, not all of them but most.

So, we can agree that its more of a cultural dynamic?  :D
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: wavelength on May 31, 2010, 01:06:49 PM
I can't
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2010, 01:11:45 PM
True dat! But I've got to admit that it gets on my nerves when I hear folks make such claims when it's rather certain that it's BS. For example, tiger woods claimed 300 pound bp. Yeah it's possible that it's true, but I seriously doubt it. And there's a fella here on gb who claims 450 for 8 reps. If that is true then you're looking at a max bp in the low 500s which is very impressive lift!
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: Cleanest Natural on May 31, 2010, 01:14:59 PM
Getbig is full of record breaking benchers/squatters/dlers.......they just don't compete because they don't want to embarrass the professional powerlifters. ;)
I don't compete and I embarass both you and your gaylisp chubby buddy
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: LOVESMINGE on May 31, 2010, 01:18:19 PM
Have seen some little power lifters lift awesome weights but best I have seen was a guy with no legs bench 3 times his body weight.Now that is a lift.A good lift is 2 times your BW anything over 2 is very good.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: G.R.H. on May 31, 2010, 01:27:33 PM
i can't do it bro!  :'( i ain't a real strong mo fo, but some dude did call me a feakin animal the other night cause i was hammer pushin  100 lbs on each side the other night!
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: Tre on May 31, 2010, 01:29:54 PM

When I was a kid like many of you, I weighed 185-190 and had not much trouble hitting 300 (or so) for a double.  But that really had more to do with knowing how to bench than simply being strong.

Now that I'm old and my shoulders are all fucked up from high-speed snowboarding accidents, I can't say that I'll ever see 315 again.  Waahhh.   
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: chaos on May 31, 2010, 01:33:19 PM
I don't compete and I embarass both you and your gaylisp chubby buddy
Not just us, but you're quite an embarrassment to Romania as well.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: Cleanest Natural on May 31, 2010, 01:50:20 PM
Not just us, but you're quite an embarrassment to Romania as well.
haha .. it kills you ;)
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: Cleanest Natural on May 31, 2010, 01:58:14 PM
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Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: CalvinH on May 31, 2010, 01:58:38 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: Howard on May 31, 2010, 02:05:42 PM
Nope, can't do it.   

I only db bench because I believe it's better for my shoulders.  Couldn't do 300 bb or db tho.
I remember Nasser being asked how much he could bench at a seminar , 9 yrs ago.

He said ; " I have no idea what my max bench is and have NOT tried in years. I am a bodybuilder and find other moves like DB's for sets of 8-10 reps to be more productive for pec growth. If you are mostly concerned with benchpressing , consider power meets instead."

The best BP I ever did was 2 decent form reps with 405 in the gym ( Body wt 245 lbs) and a raw 390 with a pause in a meet at just under 220 lbs.
All heavy reg BP gave me was a bum shoulder. What cracks me up is watching some young buck trying to max on the bench with a spotter lifting 10 % of the wt and the lifter all contorted looking hehe.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: pugalist666 on May 31, 2010, 02:21:07 PM
haha .. it kills you ;)
in your current state 300 would tear you
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2010, 02:38:32 PM
A raw 390 at 220 is an impressive lift. Anyone who can bench twice their bodyweight is a beast. And a raw triple bodyweight BP? Well that would place one in a catagory of less than 100 who have ever done that, maybe even closer to 50.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: Howard on May 31, 2010, 02:42:43 PM
A raw 390 at 220 is an impressive lift. Anyone who can bench twice their bodyweight is a beast. And a raw triple bodyweight BP? Well that would place one in a catagory of less than 100 who have ever done that, maybe even closer to 50.

Thanks. One does need to move some decent wt in some moves to gain mass.
In my humble opinion, most bodybuilders would a LOT better off to do good form heavy leg and back work instead of heavy reg benches.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: _bruce_ on May 31, 2010, 02:45:06 PM
Can't. Can - 225.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: Wiggs on May 31, 2010, 02:46:37 PM
I had 320 in high school at 180 lbs...to make the 1200lbs club.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: Howard on May 31, 2010, 02:49:54 PM
Can't. Can - 225.
It took me over 4 yrs and 25 lbs of muscle gain ( 170-195) to finally bench a legit 300 with good form.
I was impressed seeing anyone who could do 2 plates 225 when I first started in a gym
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: BB on May 31, 2010, 08:37:31 PM
At DJ181, what are your other numbers like? I've noticed that folks that have marginal benches, usually have good pulls. Closest I got was 290 at 195ish. Once I got back to over 200, the gains where much, much easier. Biggest thing that helped was taking the old avice that "If you want to press more, press more". Once I dumped a lot of accessory work, and moved to just a pile of low rep/high volume work, the numbers started to move.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: dj181 on May 31, 2010, 10:04:16 PM
Well that lift was bout 10 years ago and I'm not a full meet guy, I just practiced the bench, and being that this was in Columbus, Ohio (home of Westside Barbell) me and my buddies caught some slack for being "bench press guys". But I suppose it helped that we were being trained by Mr. JM Blakely creator of the JM press. Have you heard of Blakely? I have an old vid of a bp meet that I did some years ago, so I'll try to find it and post it here. My friend filmed this vid and put it to music, so this vid is rather creative in my opinion with not just me and my dismal performance, but also includes other friends in it and a few female ass shots :>
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: YngiweRhoads on May 31, 2010, 10:08:50 PM
I've done it for a single weighing 20 more lbs than I do now. I'm a small guy, relatively speaking. If I couldn't get it now, I could prolly get close. I don't flat bench anymore and stick to incline.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: BB on May 31, 2010, 10:17:42 PM
Well that lift was bout 10 years ago and I'm not a full meet guy, I just practiced the bench, and being that this was in Columbus, Ohio (home of Westside Barbell) me and my buddies caught some slack for being "bench press ####". But I suppose it helped that we were being trained by Mr. JM Blakely creator of the JM press. Have you heard of Blakely? I have an old vid of a bp meet that I did some years ago, so I'll try to find it and post it here. My friend filmed this vid and put it to music, so this vid is rather creative in my opinion with not just me and my dismal performance, but also includes other friends in it and a few female ass shots :>

Oh, Sure, I remember reading of Blakely when Westside first started break though, older name thought, most younger guys probably won't remember him, which is a shame.

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Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: Rearden Metal on June 01, 2010, 11:11:11 AM
I tore my pec on the 3rd or 4th rep with 385 when I weighed 198.

My max 1 rep bench IIRC was 425, but I think I was 210 lbs or so then.

I doubt my lifts would be considered unassisted. I was always really paranoid when benching heavy (ironic that I still tore my pec) and had a spotter keep his fingers on the bar ready to assist. I cared less about being a stickler for details of the lift than I did just lifting as heavy as I could.

Man I was dumb, LOL.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: dj181 on June 02, 2010, 02:34:55 AM
385 at 198 is a double bw bench man, and that is very impressive!
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: Rearden Metal on June 02, 2010, 07:00:22 AM
385 at 198 is a double bw bench man, and that is very impressive!

I always thought I sucked at benching when I was young(er) because a few guys around me repped 405.

I never really thought about the fact that they all weighed 240+.

When I started out, my arms would fatigue before my chest would. It was like that for probably the first 2 years I trained.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: dj181 on June 02, 2010, 07:17:30 AM
JM says that the bp is 75% tricep, and he points to the fact that many fellas have come back from having a tore pec and end up pressing more weight after having this injury.
Title: Re: Serious question
Post by: dj181 on June 02, 2010, 07:18:35 AM
JM says that the bp is 75% tricep, and he points to the fact that many fellas have come back from having a tore pec and end up pressing more weight after having this injury.