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First and foremost, the 1981 Mr. Olympia (I guess when your best friend is the promoter you're expected to win) closely followed by the 2007 Mr. Olympia. Really? Jay? ::)
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First and foremost, the 1981 Mr. Olympia (I guess when your best friend is the promoter you're expected to win) closely followed by the 2007 Mr. Olympia. Really? Jay? ::)
2008, Dexter? UM WHAT THE FUCK!
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any of the ones where Huge Nassar didn't win ... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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the '06 (might have been '07) Grand Prix where photo and video clearly shows Ruhl DESTROYING cutler and ronnie in every single side by side shot, but still places 3rd behind both of them.
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The 2007 Olympia was the biggest debacle in the history of bodybuilding.
The fridge shouldn't have even been in the top 6.
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The 2007 Olympia was the biggest debacle in the history of bodybuilding.
The fridge shouldn't have even been in the top 6.
great midsection :-X :-X
(http://www.mr-olympia.eu/callouts/img/lide/24/1.jpg)
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2008, Dexter? UM WHAT THE FUCK!
Give credit where credit is due. He deserved it that year.
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the '06 (might have been '07) Grand Prix where photo and video clearly shows Ruhl DESTROYING cutler and ronnie in every single side by side shot, but still places 3rd behind both of them.
OLYMPIA, knucklehead. ::)
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2008, Dexter? UM WHAT THE FUCK!
He "looked" the best. Plus, they used Dex as a way to embarass the the others. He was a mechanism in making the others come in shape for the 2009 O. After 2008, he served his purpose.
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Paging Team Nasser
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i believe it was the 80 and 81 olympia where arnold and franco won. especially the franco win
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i believe it was the 80 and 81 olympia where arnold and franco won. especially the franco win
X2 especially Franco on one leg 1981
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Dickerson's win was questionable, I mean how could they let a blatant homosexual have the title 'Mr. Olympia'....I could understand giving 'him' the Ms. Olympia title though ..
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(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SuyqYRpYlwI/AAAAAAAABZs/h-ynlyxVo0w/s400/1997-mr-olympia-62_20090830.JPG])
I know you're tired of hearing it but really, come on
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2008, Dexter? UM WHAT THE FUCK!
Dexter rightly won that show - Jay showed up in very poor shape and Dexter just happened to be at his all-time best that night. It was a fair result.
Question - when Franco won in 1981 what was/is the general consensus as to who should have beat him?
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Dickerson's win was questionable, I mean how could they let a blatant homosexual have the title 'Mr. Olympia'....I could understand giving 'him' the Ms. Olympia title though ..
Good point I forgot he actually won a Mr O tells you something.
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Dickerson's win was questionable, I mean how could they let a blatant homosexual have the title 'Mr. Olympia'....I could understand giving 'him' the Ms. Olympia title though ..
Franco's win in '81 was almost believable because there was no one else in the show worth a damn.
Dickerson over Zane in '82 was just criminal.
The blatant contest fixing really had an effect on BBing - if Samir wouldn't have won in '83, the whole contest would have lost what little credibility it had left.
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i believe it was the 80 and 81 olympia where arnold and franco won.
Franco's win was RIDICULOUS! But what do ya expect when the promoter happens to be his best friend, Arnold.
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Franco's win in '81 was almost believable because there was no one else in the show worth a damn.
Are you fuckin' kidding me?! Enter Platz and Padilla, fool.
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Interesting video on the 1980 Mr. Olympia. 8)
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Are you fuckin' kidding me?! Enter Platz and Padilla, fool.
Oh fuck off....Platz was all legs and Weider hype.
He had sweet fuck all for an upper body. Don't believe it just because a Weider magazine told you so.
Padilla was 5'-2" and 160 lbs, way overdieted and flat. He finished in 5th for chrissakes, not even close to runner-up.
They should have called the show a draw and sent everyone home....it was that bad.
At least Franco had decent back poses and a good most muscular pose.
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Platz was all legs and Weider hype.
Padilla was 5'-2" He finished in 5th for chrissakes, not even close to runner-up.
And Franco was no legs!
As for Padilla, you said it right there. That's how much of a joke this show was.
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1980 arnold was in better shape than anyone, all that was wrong was his legs were small, meaning his quads and hams, calves were better than anyones, he was drier and more cut than almost anyone, by the time mentzer went on stage he was spilling over and looked watered.
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1980 arnold was in better shape than anyone, all that was wrong was his legs were small, meaning his quads and hams, calves were better than anyones, he was drier and more cut than almost anyone, by the time mentzer went on stage he was spilling over and looked watered.
LOL ''spilling over''
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Oh fuck off....Platz was all legs and Weider hype.
He had sweet fuck all for an upper body. Don't believe it just because a Weider magazine told you so.
Padilla was 5'-2" and 160 lbs, way overdieted and flat. He finished in 5th for chrissakes, not even close to runner-up.
They should have called the show a draw and sent everyone home....it was that bad.
At least Franco had decent back poses and a good most muscular pose.
Platz was NOT all legs in '81. Go back and look at the pics of his back, chest, delts and abs. Arms were never a strong point, but even they were up. Who cares how tall/heavy Padilla was? He was damn near perfect- not a weak bodypart and the most cut guy in the show. Roy Callender was massive and ripped- top 3. Dickerson looked better in '81 than he did the following year, when he won. Jusup Wilcosz could easily have been above Franco. Franco had no thighs to speak of and a nasty case of gyno. That's your idea of a winner?
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Yea, I don't see any problem with Arnold winning the 1980 O. Menter just looks too compact and shape/aesthetics weren't as good as Arnolds or Zanes
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The deserving winner of the '81 O, regardless of his height.
(http://www.criticalbench.com/images/bodybuilders/Padilla1.jpg)
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Epic shot.
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the '06 (might have been '07) Grand Prix where photo and video clearly shows Ruhl DESTROYING cutler and ronnie in every single side by side shot, but still places 3rd behind both of them.
No. Rhyl has
1 wiiide waiste
2 missing triceps aside from in the fdb his arms look like toothpicks beside that barrel torso
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Franco's win was RIDICULOUS! But what do ya expect when the promoter happens to be his best friend, Arnold.
Blah, blah, blah. Arnold is the King of Kings and all of them knew it. Arnold continued to rule the world as Mentzer became irrelevant, drugged up and died. Arnold continues to this day to rule and will go down as the greatest bodybuilder of all time for his body paved the way for him to rule the world. No other bodybuilder can match what Arnold has done.
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Blah, blah, blah. Arnold is the King of Kings and all of them knew it. Arnold continued to rule the world as Mentzer became irrelevant, drugged up and died. Arnold continues to this day to rule and will go down as the greatest bodybuilder of all time for his body paved the way for him to rule the world. No other bodybuilder can match what Arnold has done.
This is common knowledge sir
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Yea, I don't see any problem with Arnold winning the 1980 O. Menter just looks too compact and shape/aesthetics weren't as good as Arnolds or Zanes
Agreed. The only thing the judges needed to control were Arnold's antics. Especially bringing Franco on stage during the contest. That was a bit much.
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_1146.jpg)
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Blah, blah, blah. Arnold is the King of Kings and all of them knew it. Arnold continued to rule the world as Mentzer became irrelevant, drugged up and died. Arnold continues to this day to rule and will go down as the greatest bodybuilder of all time for his body paved the way for him to rule the world. No other bodybuilder can match what Arnold has done.
You haven't been around Getbig long enough with your little over 200 posts to know I'm Getbig's OFFICIAL Arnold guy so I'm not disputing that. So you can stick your 'blah blah blah' up your 'blah blah blah' ass. ;D
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First and foremost, the 1981 Mr. Olympia (I guess when your best friend is the promoter you're expected to win) closely followed by the 2007 Mr. Olympia. Really? Jay? ::)
Silly question. Every single Olympia contest will always have cry babies who complain that they should have one or a lousy fanbase that cries about the judging. Never fails.
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Most ridiculous? 1981 where Franco "Sausage Legs" Columbo won. Bar none.
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I think the bigger question is, "What Mr.O contest have we had whre competitors and or cry baby fans didn't complain of the outcome?"
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Silly question. Every single Olympia contest will always have cry babies who complain that they should have one or a lousy fanbase that cries about the judging. Never fails.
This is true. But there's gonna be that ONE Olympia that stands out more than the rest because of how ridiculous the outcome is. It would be like Vince Goodrum or Billy Guns winning the USA or Nationals; it would be ridiculous! You get my point? ;D
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This is true. But there's gonna be that ONE Olympia that stands out more than the rest because of how ridiculous the outcome is. It would be like Vince Goodrum or Billy Guns winning the USA or Nationals; it would be ridiculous! You get my point? ;D
All these fucking contests are the same. Always complainers.
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1994 is right up there.
yes, we know the three nuthuggers on the board will proclaim to the death that fat one armed dorian deserved to win.
but no one else agrees.
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1994 is right up there.
yes, we know the three nuthuggers on the board will proclaim to the death that fat one armed dorian deserved to win.
but no one else agrees.
the dorian nuthuggers are worse than team nasser
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1994 is right up there.
yes, we know the three nuthuggers on the board will proclaim to the death that fat one armed dorian deserved to win.
but no one else agrees.
Shawn Ray said Dorian deserved to win and in fact NONE of his competition had a problem with his win in 1994 , 2001 on the other hand ;)
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no, shawn said dorian deserved to win only when under Weider contract.
he publicly and aggressively changed his statement when freed of the contract.
and its no surprise why.
its sad how some people do not understand simple business politics.. ::)
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the dorian nuthuggers are worse than team nasser
says the Nasser guy. Here's a hint, when you try and claim Nasser is %1000 better person than Dorian when you don't know either of them, especily after you read the interviews ::)of Nasser ripping on eveyone and sounding like a bitter asshole, not even counting the used posing trunk sales, it's obvious you have no credibility and just don't like Dorian/
and as far as you hulkster, I simply refuse to get caught up in your pathetic trolling hate of Dorian. For every 1 bad photo of 94, I can post 5 ones of Dorian dominating. Sp drop the Shawn Ray thing (he was never big enough to be a threat) and go back to talking shit about 97. That one you actually have a point.
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no, shawn said dorian deserved to win only when under Weider contract.
he publicly and aggressively changed his statement when freed of the contract.
and its no surprise why.
its sad how some people do not understand simple business politics.. ::)
Oh the excuses flow like wine ;)
quote Flex Jan 1995 " Let it be recorded that in the immediate aftermath of the contest , none of his closest rivals even hinted that Yates did not deserve to win . "
As usual you don't know what you're talking about and contradict reality and the facts.
politics? you're the dummy who claims Ronnie ' dominated ' in 2001 when in fact most industry experts claim it was among the biggest jokes in the sport , but it's YOU who claims NO politics were involved hahahahahah run along stupid before I embarrass you with facts some more.
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says the Nasser guy. Here's a hint, when you try and claim Nasser is %1000 better person than Dorian when you don't know either of them, especily after you read the interviews ::)of Nasser ripping on eveyone and sounding like a bitter asshole, not even counting the used posing trunk sales, it's obvious you have no credibility and just don't like Dorian/
and as far as you hulkster, I simply refuse to get caught up in your pathetic trolling hate of Dorian. For every 1 bad photo of 94, I can post 5 ones of Dorian dominating. Sp drop the Shawn Ray thing (he was never big enough to be a threat) and go back to talking shit about 97. That one you actually have a point.
Hulkster is a troll and nothing more , how you deal with these trolls if you don't feed them , you point out how stupid they are and send them on their way. ;D
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says the Nasser guy. Here's a hint, when you try and claim Nasser is %1000 better person than Dorian when you don't know either of them, especily after you read the interviews ::)of Nasser ripping on eveyone and sounding like a bitter asshole, not even counting the used posing trunk sales, it's obvious you have no credibility and just don't like Dorian/
and as far as you hulkster, I simply refuse to get caught up in your pathetic trolling hate of Dorian. For every 1 bad photo of 94, I can post 5 ones of Dorian dominating. Sp drop the Shawn Ray thing (he was never big enough to be a threat) and go back to talking shit about 97. That one you actually have a point.
calm down poindexter I never said nasser was %1000 better or that I don't like dorian, I just think nasser has a better physique and deserved to beat dorian more than once
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To further make Hulkster looks like the complete and utter loser he is , here is an article entitled ' 15 biggest controversies and shocking moments '
guess what contest is on the list and which one isn't....................... .......1994 and 2001 ;)
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_12_23/ai_n16034008/
Hulkster 1997 isn't there either , so much for what you know ;)
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calm down poindexter I never said nasser was %1000 better or that I don't like dorian, I just think nasser has a better physique and deserved to beat dorian more than once
You're not a judge and your base everything on your preference and that's NOT how it works.
Nasser was great from the front , not so from the front and laughable from the back.
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1994 is right up there.
yes, we know the three nuthuggers on the board will proclaim to the death that fat one armed dorian deserved to win.
but no one else agrees.
Nasser vs. Dorian I can understand, but Dorian vs Ronnie? come on even huge Nasser can't hold a candle to Big Ron let alone Dorian
(http://www.lifeinthefastlane.ca/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/body_builder_10sfw.gif)
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You're not a judge and your base everything on your preference and that's NOT how it works.
Nasser was great from the front , not so from the front and laughable from the back.
1. your not a judge either
2. as far as anyone else knows, you are basing judging based on your preference
3. dorian was laughable form the front...and side
next argument
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Nasser vs. Dorian I can understand, but Dorian vs Ronnie? come on even huge Nasser can't hold a candle to Big Ron let alone Dorian
(http://www.lifeinthefastlane.ca/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/body_builder_10sfw.gif)
wow real subtle attempt are trying to get something started ::) yawn , keep trying though maybe it will work.
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calm down poindexter I never said nasser was %1000 better or that I don't like dorian, I just think nasser has a better physique and deserved to beat dorian more than once
you litteraly said on another quote that Nasser was 100% better human being than Dorian. ::)
and fucking LAWL at Dorian sucked from the side.
Yeah, next argument please, cause it's obvious you just don't like Dorian.
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1. your not a judge either
2. as far as anyone else knows, you are basing judging based on your preference
3. dorian was laughable form the front...and side
next argument
1 I never claimed to be but the difference between you and I is , I at least know how contests are judge and what they look for
2 the judging criteria favor's Yates physique , he never placed below 2nd in any pro contest and won all the rest , I'm basing my preference on the criteria which clearly favor's Yates , facts prove this
3 once again your biased opinion contradicts facts and Dorian was unmatched from all angles
there is NO argument , just you making a lot of claims based on ignorance , in order for there to be an ' argument ' you'd have to be savy on on this work and you just proved you don't
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you litteraly said on another quote that Nasser was 100% better human being than Dorian. ::)
and fucking LAWL at Dorian sucked from the side.
Yeah, next argument please, cause it's obvious you just don't like Dorian.
no I never said that, you've got me confused with someone else
no I don't like dorians physique either
good training vids and personality from what I can tell, but in an objective unbiased view, nasser is just a better physique
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1 I never claimed to be but the difference between you and I is , I at least know how contests are judge and what they look for
2 the judging criteria favor's Yates physique , he never placed below 2nd in any pro contest and won all the rest , I'm basing my preference on the criteria which clearly favor's Yates , facts prove this
3 once again your biased opinion contradicts facts and Dorian was unmatched from all angles
there is NO argument , just you making a lot of claims based on ignorance , in order for there to be an ' argument ' you'd have to be savy on on this work and you just proved you don't
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wow real subtle attempt are trying to get something started ::) yawn , keep trying though maybe it will work.
not calling anyone out just pointing out the truth
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no I never said that, you've got me confused with someone else
no I don't like dorians physique either
good training vids and personality from what I can tell, but in an objective unbiased view, nasser is just a better physique
hmm, fair enough, that's what I get for arguing on my cell phone.
Regardless Nasser may look better from the front, but he gets slaughtered from all other angles, you can't have the best physique with NO back. Plus Nasser has no thickness front to back whatsoever, Dorian looks like a brick shithouse from all angles, especially if you watch the 96 ggp vid. You can get a glimpse of what all those people are saying when they talk about that "thing" Dorian has that photos don't capture, it's his 3d thickness.
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hmm, fair enough, that's what I get for arguing on my cell phone.
Regardless Nasser may look better from the front, but he gets slaughtered from all other angles, you can't have the best physique with NO back. Plus Nasser has no thickness front to back whatsoever, Dorian looks like a brick shithouse from all angles, especially if you watch the 96 ggp vid. You can get a glimpse of what all those people are saying when they talk about that "thing" Dorian has that photos don't capture, it's his 3d thickness.
put yourself in everyone elses position, would this not seem like a lame excuse.
not saying it's false, I just wouldn't want that excuse used on myself
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not calling anyone out just pointing out the truth
your version of it , you're bored and looking for attention
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no I never said that, you've got me confused with someone else
no I don't like dorians physique either
good training vids and personality from what I can tell, but in an objective unbiased view, nasser is just a better physique
hahahahahah objective unbiased view lol good stuff right there
Dorian faced Nasser many times and strictly based on objective unbiased views of 13 different people they all concluded Dorian has the superior physique per the IFBB judging criteria and ultimately their collective opinions trumps yours because they have the final say
let it go , Dorian won a very long time ago , the check's have been cashed and the monies probably long gone by now he still has the Sandowns and Nasser has a thriving used-underware business going
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your version of it , you're bored and looking for attention
yes I am bored
truth is ronnie and nasser are both better than dorian, if you don't believe me just watch judge their physiques objectivly
and cyber attention? no. if I wanted that I would post naked pics
now I'm done arguing with you
(cue hulkster and team nasser)
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1. your not a judge either
2. as far as anyone else knows, you are basing judging based on your preference
3. dorian was laughable form the front...and side
next argument
Yip we need spectacles alright Dorian was laughable from the front and side, Thanks for pointing that out, its always great to get a Education from people such as yourself Thanks.
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Yip we need spectacles alright Dorian was laughable from the front and side, Thanks for pointing that out, its always great to get a Education from people such as yourself Thanks.
ok #3 was made in a arguing sense and dorian doesn't look bad, but nasser and dorian just look so much better in both poses
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put yourself in everyone elses position, would this not seem like a lame excuse.
not saying it's false, I just wouldn't want that excuse used on myself
Look man, its been said by almost everyone that has seen him.
Im not the one that made it up.
And the only people that refuse to believe it are the E-warriors that have never seen them live.
What I said, is you can see it in the 96 GGP vid, you can truely get a feel for the 3d'ness they were talking about,
He looks like a fuggin tank.
But I guess you know better, right, because you were at those Olympia's right, so you can refute there claims?
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Look man, its been said by almost everyone that has seen him.
Im not the one that made it up.
And the only people that refuse to believe it are the E-warriors that have never seen them live.
What I said, is you can see it in the 96 GGP vid, you can truely get a feel for the 3d'ness they were talking about,
He looks like a fuggin tank.
But I guess you know better, right, because you were at those Olympia's right, so you can refute there claims?
yeah
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nah man I just don't see "looked better in person" as a satisfying argument
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Youre seriously gonna argue with nearly everyone that has seen him live?
Fucking lawl. ;D
Go watch the 96 ggp vid, youll see what im talking about.
None of the other pics or vids capture his thickness, which is what literally 90% of people that have seen him.
Guess we should start judging from pics and vids then huh?
Seriously youre making yourself look stupid. Even Bob Chick is on here saying how pics just dont tell the whole story in some cases.
I didnt actually know there were people in this world that decide that they know better than everyone else, and they single handedly contradict what so many others have said, while having no frame of reference, only what theyve seen on there computer. Epic. lol.
Maybe you should go turn in your application for E-judging of the next Olympia?
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Youre seriously gonna argue with nearly everyone that has seen him live?
Fucking lawl. ;D
Go watch the 96 ggp vid, youll see what im talking about.
None of the other pics or vids capture his thickness, which is what literally 90% of people that have seen him.
Guess we should start judging from pics and vids then huh?
Seriously youre making yourself look stupid. Even Bob Chick is on here saying how pics just dont tell the whole story in some cases.
I didnt actually know there were people in this world that decide that they know better than everyone else, and they single handedly contradict what so many others have said, while having no frame of reference, only what theyve seen on there computer. Epic. lol.
Maybe you should go turn in your application for E-judging of the next Olympia?
gusfraba...
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gusfraba...
I have been trolled. Epic fail. >:(
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put yourself in everyone elses position, would this not seem like a lame excuse.
not saying it's false, I just wouldn't want that excuse used on myself
no shit.
if dorian himself could see the bullshit these idiots come up with to justify his being 'better' than ronnie at peak or some of his contemporaries, he would be embarrassed.
I mean really. this is famous 'photoelectric' effect that we used to joke about.
the idea that dorian looks shitty in pics/video, awesome in person, but that the same does not apply to ronnie or any of dorian's competitors..dorian had this magic effect that no other pro had, according to the nuthuggers LOL ::)
yes folks, the nuthuggers actually argued this point for a few years.. ::) ::)
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Youre seriously gonna argue with nearly everyone that has seen him live?
Fucking lawl.
even getbiggers that have seen both live and in person verify ronnie was much better.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=252142.0
Of course directly.
And I have seen him competing directly 1994 and 1996.
And I say
Dorian is not in the league of Ronnie.
Best Ronnie was from the outer space.
No competition.
who's laughing now? LOL
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no shit.
if dorian himself could see the bullshit these idiots come up with to justify his being 'better' than ronnie at peak or some of his contemporaries, he would be embarrassed.
I mean really. this is famous 'photoelectric' effect that we used to joke about.
the idea that dorian looks shitty in pics/video, awesome in person, but that the same does not apply to ronnie or any of dorian's competitors..dorian had this magic effect that no other pro had, according to the nuthuggers LOL ::)
yes folks, the nuthuggers actually argued this point for a few years.. ::) ::)
Lol. Youre the dumbass that came up with "photoelectric" Cause you couldnt handle the fact that people who were there said Dorian had something not well captured by vids or photos.
Fact is your so fucking butthurt that you do everything in your power to squash that. Wheather you like that or not, his peers and dozens of people who were there said the same thing.
One random gettbigger does not concern me.
Besides this was confimed with the 96 GGP vid, which shows Dorians amazing thickness that wasnt captured in other pics. So Hulkster,
Fact remains, Youre the biggest internet fan boy there is, and you think because you say one 3rd tier pro that makes you an authority on judging BB contests online. Fucking lol.
Hey, why dont you go back to arguing why 99 Ronnie is better than 98 Ronnie, you know, since your opinion contradicts the judges, the competitors, the people that were there, and everyone else. lol.
Fact is, Dorian was slightly larger at his best, with at HIS WORST equal conditioning, at his best was a bit better than Ronnie, and he had better balance. Weak biceps vs NO calves creating an Lower leg upper leg imbalance, fucked up midsection, and Upper arm lower arm imbalances.
Oh wait, Hold on Hulkster, Ill do it for you.
Dorians calves were too big for his quads, right? And his forearms were too big for his upper arms? Fucking lol.
I like how you always try and take Ronnies weakness and flip them around. Hahah EPIC FAIL>
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Lol. Youre the dumbass that came up with "photoelectric" Cause you couldnt handle the fact that people who were there said Dorian had something not well captured by vids or photos.
Fact is your so fucking butthurt that you do everything in your power to squash that. Wheather you like that or not, his peers and dozens of people who were there said the same thing.
One random gettbigger does not concern me.
Besides this was confimed with the 96 GGP vid, which shows Dorians amazing thickness that wasnt captured in other pics. So Hulkster,
Fact remains, Youre the biggest internet fan boy there is, and you think because you say one 3rd tier pro that makes you an authority on judging BB contests online. Fucking lol.
Hey, why dont you go back to arguing why 99 Ronnie is better than 98 Ronnie, you know, since your opinion contradicts the judges, the competitors, the people that were there, and everyone else. lol.
Fact is, Dorian was slightly larger at his best, with at HIS WORST equal conditioning, at his best was a bit better than Ronnie, and he had better balance. Weak biceps vs NO calves creating an Lower leg upper leg imbalance, fucked up midsection, and Upper arm lower arm imbalances.
Oh wait, Hold on Hulkster, Ill do it for you.
Dorians calves were too big for his quads, right? And his forearms were too big for his upper arms? Fucking lol.
I like how you always try and take Ronnies weakness and flip them around. Hahah EPIC FAIL>
Hulkster looks like a complete moron as usual and it only took two seconds to make him look like one , see that's his problem , he makes up claims and tries to re-write history and think everyone agrees with him
he makes a really ignorant and contradictory statement like 1994 was a very controversial contest , then I just bash him over the head with facts , like Shawn Ray said he got the place he deserved and how none of his closest rivals even hinted Dorian didn't deserve first , now he looks real stupid as usual but the best part is he'll claim 1994 was close and the result of ' politics ' yet in the same breathe claim 2001 Mr. Olympia was a contest Ronnie ' dominated ' ( by losing the entire prejudging ) and there were no politics hahahahahahahaha and then business as usual I stomp his head into the ground with more facts and I post the link to the 15 biggest controversies and shocking moments and not one hint of either 1997 or 1994 Mr Olympias and sure-as-shit 2001 is there lol
end result , it took two seconds to make Hulkster look like the retard he is , nothing new.
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So... yeah... about the '81 Olympia...
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I think the bigger question is, "What Mr.O contest have we had whre competitors and or cry baby fans didn't complain of the outcome?"
Noone ever complained about the 2003 Olympia.
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I have been trolled. Epic fail. >:(
yes you win
tell Ron and you can print yourself a "I won getbig argument" certificate
jk I just don't feel like arguing
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he makes a really ignorant and contradictory statement like 1994 was a very controversial contest
LOL ND says 94 was not controversial LOL
well, maybe in the weider mags it wasn't (surprise surprise) ::)
pick up a non weider mag like musclemag that year and you find a totally different story.
the real story.
hell, musclemag stated that dorian stole the title like a 'one armed bandit'. they coined that term that is often said about dorian post tear.
its right in the 'muscle go round' section near the front of the mag, for those that still have it..
I don't have it anymore, but I wish I still did. I could scan it and watch ND melt down daily LOL
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for the record musclemag was even more critical of the 1994 MS. Olympia that year, which was even worse that the men's version.
in that contest, an emaciated starving and small Lenda Murry beat a near perfect Laura Craevalle.
both contests were terribly judged in 1994.
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(http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?pid=2499735&id=48163666888)
(http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?pid=2499763&id=48163666888)
the other nasser pics wont show up, nonetheless I'll still probably get a lot of excuses on why these pics aren't valid
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LOL ND says 94 was not controversial LOL
well, maybe in the weider mags it wasn't (surprise surprise) ::)
pick up a non weider mag like musclemag that year and you find a totally different story.
the real story.
hell, musclemag stated that dorian stole the title like a 'one armed bandit'. they coined that term that is often said about dorian post tear.
its right in the 'muscle go round' section near the front of the mag, for those that still have it..
I don't have it anymore, but I wish I still did. I could scan it and watch ND melt down daily LOL
Still posting this shit huh? it's been corrected and dismissed eons and you know it
NON-Weider mags
quote Ironman Jan 1995 " The battle was between Shawn and Kevin for second "
Musclemag International Feb 1995
On the 1994 Mr Olympia
Was it after all a luckywin? I chose to use the word " lucky " because without a doubt there was an element of luck involved in Dorian's third consecutive Mr. O title . He was far from his best.
I would NOT not wish the reader to leave these pages thinking that the Sandow had been given a handout. THAT WOULD BE FAR FROM THE TRUTH.
Oppppss Hulkster getting beat over the head again with more facts
What do you have? NOTHING I'll ask you again where is 1994 or 1997?
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_12_23/ai_n16034008/
2001 is on there a contest you claimed he dominated LLOLL ;)
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for the record musclemag was even more critical of the 1994 MS. Olympia that year, which was even worse that the men's version.
in that contest, an emaciated starving and small Lenda Murry beat a near perfect Laura Craevalle.
both contests were terribly judged in 1994.
Musclemag International Feb 1995
On the 1994 Mr Olympia
Was it after all a luckywin? I chose to use the word " lucky " because without a doubt there was an element of luck involved in Dorian's third consecutive Mr. O title . He was far from his best.
I would NOT not wish the reader to leave these pages thinking that the Sandow had been given a handout. THAT WOULD BE FAR FROM THE TRUTH.
Musclemag saying outright Dorian wasn't giving a ' handout ' keep contradicting facts.
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(http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?pid=2499735&id=48163666888)
(http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?pid=2499763&id=48163666888)
the other nasser pics wont show up, nonetheless I'll still probably get a lot of excuses on why these pics aren't valid
lmfao @ valid
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lmfao @ valid
great post dude, great post
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great post dude, great post
It's not worthy of a response but you know this and are desperately trying to get the party started ;)
You have your version and like Hulkster it contradicts the facts , you're in good company with the over revisionists who are attempting to re-write history , carry-on
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::) but you know this and are desperately trying to get the party started ;)
You have your version and like Hulkster it contradicts the facts , you're in good company with the over revisionists who are attempting to re-write history , carry-on
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you've run out of points to argue, so have I just look at the pics again.
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you've run out of points to argue, so have I just look at the pics again.
There is NO argument , just denial on your behalf you have a position and it contradicts reality , nothing new in this place
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There is NO argument , just denial on your behalf you have a position and it contradicts reality , nothing new in this place
once again, you've just run out of points to argue
seems those pics have made you mad
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once again, you've just run out of points to argue
seems those pics have made you mad
I had the biggest thread on this message board for years and I ran out of points to argue? I have over 32K posts and I ran out of points to argue? lol right in line with your other points that contradict reality
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This clip always makes me shake my head! >:(
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This clip always makes me shake my head! >:(
Flex standing relaxed = perfection right there.
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Flex standing relaxed = perfection right there.
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I've said it once and I'll say it again... FLEX WHEELER LOOKED DAMN GOOD IN '99 WITH SYNTHOL! 8)
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I had the biggest thread on this message board for years and I ran out of points to argue? I have over 32K posts and I ran out of points to argue? lol right in line with your other points that contradict reality
this in no way supports dorian being better than nasser or ronnie, you no longer have any valid arguments you're just spitting out cyber-achievments now....congratulations on the 32k posts
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You haven't been around Getbig long enough with your little over 200 posts to know I'm Getbig's OFFICIAL Arnold guy so I'm not disputing that. So you can stick your 'blah blah blah' up your 'blah blah blah' ass. ;D
Thank you sir. Just saying to the "anti-Arnold-idiots" what you would sir.
No disrespect ;D
Can I join the Arnold-Pollux guy club? I promise to smash all that oppose the Oak.
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Thank you sir. Just saying to the "anti-Arnold-idiots" what you would sir.
No disrespect ;D
Can I join the Arnold-Pollux guy club? I promise to smash all that oppose the Oak.
Welcome aboard. ;D
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SuYhquiSqgI/AAAAAAAABFs/8Ua08v9J9cw/s400/Mr+Olympia+1995+(MUSCLEBASE)+26.JPG)
(http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?pid=2499735&id=48163666888)
(http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?pid=2499763&id=48163666888)
the other nasser pics wont show up, nonetheless I'll still probably get a lot of excuses on why these pics aren't valid
Bad selection of pics to compare Ronnie with Dorian. Far from Ronnie's best (just because he was bigger doesn't mean he was better) and a best ever Dorian (either this one or 1995)
You would've made a better job by posting pics from Ronnie in 1998 to compare them to Dorian, but anyway.............
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Still posting this shit huh? it's been corrected and dismissed eons and you know it
nope. not corrected at all.
there are MANY anti dorian quotes in that magazine (musclemag with the 94 review in it) and you know it.
you just ignore them and pretend they were never printed.. ::)
whats funny is that websites all over the world use the fact that 1994 was such bullshit as a selling point for the video..yet ND claims it was not controversial LOL ::)
eg:
http://www.betterbodz.com/ironvideo.html
Joe Weider's 1994 Mr. Olympia $39.95
This is one of the most controversial Mr.Olympia contests of all time. Now you can judge it for yourself. Man mountain Dorain Yates' biceps tear affected hiss condition, and many thought the contest was between Shawn Ray, at his most ripped, and Kevin Levrone
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as we see, only in non weider land was the 94 olympia not controversial.
oh, and in ND delusion land too, apparently LOL ::)
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hulkster owned as ususal by quotes from his own sources.
dumbass.
at least dorian never believe he got 2nd like ronnie did in 2001.
but wait, you claim he was giving someone the 'peace' sign in the audience just as the same time 2nd place was to be announced.
lol
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this in no way supports dorian being better than nasser or ronnie, you no longer have any valid arguments you're just spitting out cyber-achievments now....congratulations on the 32k posts
Who said anyrthing about that supporting my argument? No one now you're trying to distance yourself from your original claim which ia I'Ve run out of points to argie which is nomsense
You know what supports my argument Dorian was better than Ronnie and Nasser the FACT miether of them ever once beat Dorian EVER dispite trying for years
Its you who can only post pictures and say see rhey were better
rhe fact remains Yates was untouchable but Ronnie cetainly improved post Yates retirement so he would stand a better chance against Dorian tham Nasser ever did but he' admitted several times now he couldn't beat Dorian dispite how much that pains his fanboys lol
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This clip always makes me shake my head! >:(
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Flex dwarfed Ronnie so badly, specially in the arm-shoulder department, almost ridicolous. Didn't remember it was that obvious.
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nope. not corrected at all.
there are MANY anti dorian quotes in that magazine (musclemag with the 94 review in it) and you know it.
you just ignore them and pretend they were never printed.. ::)
whats funny is that websites all over the world use the fact that 1994 was such bullshit as a selling point for the video..yet ND claims it was not controversial LOL ::)
p
eg:
http://www.betterbodz.com/ironvideo.html
lmao your proof is websites? You're dumber than I thought snd thats saying a lot lmao
I post two quotes from Non Weider mags even zmusclemag who says he wasn't givev a handout. Now you're owned as usual and yoi offer up what some webaite is saying lmfao as proof. Flex magazinge 15 most shocking and CONTROVERCIAL moments? Not onention of 94 sure as fuck mentioned 01. a contest you claimed was not controversial amd in fact claimed he dominated LMMFAO
no mention 97 either dumbass usuak you have nothing NONE Yates rivals in 94 thought he should have lost its not one of the most controversial contests
you have nothing as usual rum along before I smack you like a bitch some more.
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as we see, only in non weider land was the 94 olympia not controversial.
oh, and in ND delusion land too, apparently LOL ::)
WRONG Iroman & Musclemag Flex Muscle & Fitness and Muscular Development said Dorisn won NO ONE he competed with claimed he lost and the judges all agree Yates clear winner as usual you cant touch the facts
owed again the est part is you're the dumbass who will claim 94 is controversial and 01
Ronnie dominated rigjt in line with you constant contradiction of facts and reality
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LOL ND says 94 was not controversial LOL
well, maybe in the weider mags it wasn't (surprise surprise) ::)
pick up a non weider mag like musclemag that year and you find a totally different story.
the real story.
hell, musclemag stated that dorian stole the title like a 'one armed bandit'. they coined that term that is often said about dorian post tear.
its right in the 'muscle go round' section near the front of the mag, for those that still have it..
I don't have it anymore, but I wish I still did. I could scan it and watch ND melt down daily LOL
Then why don't you backorder the magazine you fucking troll?
http://www.shopmusclemag.com/category.asp?catcode=115
You've been spouting shit as long as I've been reading these forums, always citing that little fact of the magazine you don't have. Unless you're a troll that lives in his car and can't afford 10 bucks to backorder it. Gon on then, buy it and show us all this crap the author of that imaginary article spouted. Oh wait, you can't, because you're a liar and a troll.
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Who said anyrthing about that supporting my argument? No one now you're trying to distance yourself from your original claim which ia I'Ve run out of points to argie which is nomsense
You know what supports my argument Dorian was better than Ronnie and Nasser the FACT miether of them ever once beat Dorian EVER dispite trying for years
Its you who can only post pictures and say see rhey were better
rhe fact remains Yates was untouchable but Ronnie cetainly improved post Yates retirement so he would stand a better chance against Dorian tham Nasser ever did but he' admitted several times now he couldn't beat Dorian dispite how much that pains his fanboys lol
Nasser > Dorian
Ronnie > Dorian
you still haven't made a valid point that proves this statement wrong
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Then why don't you backorder the magazine you fucking troll?
http://www.shopmusclemag.com/category.asp?catcode=115
You've been spouting shit as long as I've been reading these forums, always citing that little fact of the magazine you don't have. Unless you're a troll that lives in his car and can't afford 10 bucks to backorder it. Gon on then, buy it and show us all this crap the author of that imaginary article spouted. Oh wait, you can't, because you're a liar and a troll.
BAHAHAHAH!
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Nasser > Dorian
you still haven't made a valid point that proves this statement wrong
No way, not a chance.
Please, what are your points to prove that Nasser > Dorian?
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Flex dwarfed Ronnie so badly, specially in the arm-shoulder department, almost ridicolous.
Exactly. Granted, Flex's synthol use is very apparent but he's one of the very few people who could get away using it 'cause it made him look that good.
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No way, not a chance.
Please, what are your points to prove that Nasser > Dorian?
bigger, more striated, more complete, better symmetry, better everywhere except back
by back I mean lats alone, nasser has better hams and equal calves, and better bone structure
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This clip always makes me shake my head! >:(
Wow Ronnie... way to be a winner.. Fall on the floor and lay there limp... Wow...
What an epic Champion he was. ::)
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yeah, because looking fat and drunk onstage is much better..:
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(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/119/images/Jean-Pierre%20Fux_photo226.jpg)
dorian should have placed behind Jean pierre fux that year
JPF had a back to match dorians
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bigger, more striated, more complete, better symmetry, better everywhere except back
by back I mean lats alone, nasser has better hams and equal calves, and better bone structure
Nasser was not bigger than Dorian and definitively not as big as him while being so dry and dense. I hope you can understand this.
More striated? Depends on what bodypart you are looking at, overall he wasn't. You can say Ronnie was more striated than Dorian, but not Nasser.
What do you mean by more complete?
Nasser may have had a slight advantage in symmetry over Dorian, but not too much to cause a big overall difference in him being better.
Nasser did not have better hams and equal calves, the only advantage he had in "bodyparts" is biceps.
Better bone structure? Are you kidding?
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(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/119/images/Jean-Pierre%20Fux_photo226.jpg)
dorian should have placed behind Jean pierre fux that year
JPF had a back to match dorians
Alright dude, I dont know if youre just trolling or what, but youre really starting to sound like you know NOTHING about bodybuilding.
But, you are entitled to your opinions, so whatever, I guess.
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There is no way nasser was better than yates in 1995 when both were healthy. Nasser did not protest Yates victory in 1995
i do feel that Nasser should have placed 2nd in 95 and 96, and won in 1997 (only because yates was hurt)
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Nasser was not bigger than Dorian and definitively not as big as him while being so dry and dense. I hope you can understand this.
More striated? Depends on what bodypart you are looking at, overall he wasn't. You can say Ronnie was more striated than Dorian, but not Nasser.
What do you mean by more complete?
Nasser may have had a slight advantage in symmetry over Dorian, but not too much to cause a big overall difference in him being better.
Nasser did not have better hams and equal calves, the only advantage he had in "bodyparts" is biceps.
Better bone structure? Are you kidding?
ok now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing
if you don't know what more complete means you don't know what you're looking at
let's break it down for you
who had better legs? nasser obviously
Who had better arms? nasser
who had a better chest? nasser again
Who's shoulders are better? nasser
but yates still wins lats
by better I mean more balanced, size, shape, condition. post pics of dorian and nasser together to prove any of these statements wrong
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Alright dude, I dont know if youre just trolling or what, but youre really starting to sound like you know NOTHING about bodybuilding.
But, you are entitled to your opinions, so whatever, I guess.
my point being that dorian was one of the worst looking competitors onstage, it's been said, he could roll onstage in a wheelchair and still win the show.
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Then why don't you backorder the magazine you fucking troll?
http://www.shopmusclemag.com/category.asp?catcode=115
You've been spouting shit as long as I've been reading these forums, always citing that little fact of the magazine you don't have. Unless you're a troll that lives in his car and can't afford 10 bucks to backorder it. Gon on then, buy it and show us all this crap the author of that imaginary article spouted. Oh wait, you can't, because you're a liar and a troll.
LOL you think I am going to spend my hard earned money to prove what I know and everyone else knows who has the mag to some idiot nuthuggers in denial that anything bad was ever printed about their one armed hero? ::)
lol what a waste of money that would be. spend money to prove what I already know, and anyone with the mag can verify. it would be easier just to get a getbigger who has it to scan it and shut you idiots up.
but what good what it do? you know that what I said was printed actually was, or I wouldn't be stating it often. otherwise anyone with the mag could just come on here and prove me wrong. and that will never happen.
I am not stupid enough to risk that buddy. nor I am stupid enough to throw money away just to please a guy. sorry but I own my own house,car etc (something that few getbiggers and especially nuthuggers will ever do lol :P) and I am not wasting money on something like this.
I am way too smart for that. some people are dumb with money. I am not.
:P
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Look how fuckin' ridiculous Flex looks at the 2:00 mark. Bullshit that Ronnie beat him! >:(
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yeah, because looking fat and drunk onstage is much better..:
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mercilessly owned
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lmao your proof is websites?
websites are as good of proof as anything in this case.
you make the ridiculous claim that the contest was not controversial.
I showed you that in the real world (not your bizzaro world), it certainly was and always will be.
too bad for you.
yet another case of ND's claims being shot down by real life and he dismisses the proof like he always does.. how typical, predictable and sad.
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dorian as seen in 1994 and 1996. what a difference. 8)
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Flavio Baccianini is actually taller than roland kickinger but only if you see them in real life
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LOL you think I am going to spend my hard earned money to prove what I know and everyone else knows who has the mag to some idiot nuthuggers in denial that anything bad was ever printed about their one armed hero? ::)
lol what a waste of money that would be. spend money to prove what I already know, and anyone with the mag can verify. it would be easier just to get a getbigger who has it to scan it and shut you idiots up.
but what good what it do? you know that what I said was printed actually was, or I wouldn't be stating it often. otherwise anyone with the mag could just come on here and prove me wrong. and that will never happen.
I am not stupid enough to risk that buddy. nor I am stupid enough to throw money away just to please a guy. sorry but I own my own house,car etc (something that few getbiggers and especially nuthuggers will ever do lol :P) and I am not wasting money on something like this.
I am way too smart for that. some people are dumb with money. I am not.
:P
Lol. So what youre saying is that you are quoting someone and trying to use it as proof of your claims, but you cannot give the article, the exact quote, the page number, or the author.
Yet again Hulkster, You are full of shit.
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dorian as seen in 1994 and 1996. what a difference. 8)
Havent you figured out were just tired of dealing with your lieing, fake quoting, backpeddling, trolling ass yet?
No one takes you seriously and now your down to arguing by yourself, no one even cares enough anymore to entertain your stupidity. Go keep posting in the truce thread and leave the rest of the getbiggers free of this stupid shit. No one ever cared about it but us anyway, and honestly no one changed there mind that reads this shit, and the few that did, about half changed and thought Ronnie was better, and the other half changed and thought Dorian was better, so it was a wash anyway.
Give it up, no one wants to here it, its equivalent to a bunch of guys playing football, everyone takes off because of that "one guy" no one can likes (YOU), But you dont get the hint and your still talking shit trying to get them to come back and play with you. Dont you see how pathetic that is?
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im still waiting on evidence that dorian is somehow better than ronnie and nasser
and "nobody likes you" or "you're lying" are just not cutting it
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im still waiting on evidence that dorian is somehow better than ronnie and nasser
and "nobody likes you" or "you're lying" are just not cutting it
look, you're about 3 years and 1700+ pages too late. Were all done with this topic but hulkster, go use the search button and type in "truce".
Click "hulkster I'm calling for a truce"
Read for the next year of your life, or 1700 pages, whichever comes first,
them return and tell us if your opinion changed. ::)
you like Nasser, we get it, but anyone with any knowledge of how bodybuilding is judged understands why Nasser lost, why do you think the only people that agree with you are "team nasser"? Lol. I'm not here to educate you in bodybuilding, go do that yourself and get back to us when you a can say more than " I think Nasser is better even though he has no back"
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How the hell did this turn into yet another Dorian vs. Ronnie vs. Nasser thread?
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LOL you think I am going to spend my hard earned money to prove what I know and everyone else knows who has the mag to some idiot nuthuggers in denial that anything bad was ever printed about their one armed hero? ::)
lol what a waste of money that would be. spend money to prove what I already know, and anyone with the mag can verify. it would be easier just to get a getbigger who has it to scan it and shut you idiots up.
but what good what it do? you know that what I said was printed actually was, or I wouldn't be stating it often. otherwise anyone with the mag could just come on here and prove me wrong. and that will never happen.
I am not stupid enough to risk that buddy. nor I am stupid enough to throw money away just to please a guy. sorry but I own my own house,car etc (something that few getbiggers and especially nuthuggers will ever do lol :P) and I am not wasting money on something like this.
I am way too smart for that. some people are dumb with money. I am not.
:P
It's ten bucks, it doesn't really qualify as money now does it troll? I tip the Portugese girl at Angel, Starbucks more if I feel generous. The amount of time you've spent trolling, lying and bullshitting over the years and now cannot spend 10 bucks to prove your case tells the forum something. One, you live under a bridge and deem 10 bucks as a lot of cash, two, you're so full of shit that you back off and claim 'hard earned cash' when someone gives YOU an oppertunity to prove YOUR case to us. I think it's both. Anyway, don't have a car homosexuals drive? I vaguely remember something like that. Wow, so here's a revelation for the group. You make a post lusting after Ronnie's black, hot ass, call him your love muffin and drive a car popular amongst gays. Anything you want to share with us?
You won't and can't prove anything because you're a liar and full of shit. You try and rewrite history because it doesn't suit you troll. Listen to this troll, history is written by the victor and in this case the pen was picked up by Dorian Yates and he wrote six hard hitting chapters. I'm really sorry you cannot accept that, I truly am. Then I don't have to turn up at the forums now and again to see the same old troll begging for the same old bitch slapping he has been getting for years. Is it the Stockholm Syndrome in play here? Are you addicted to the pain bodybuilding history and bitch slapping brings you?
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It's ten bucks, it doesn't really qualify as money now does it troll? I tip the Portugese girl at Angel, Starbucks more if I feel generous. The amount of time you've spent trolling, lying and bullshitting over the years and now cannot spend 10 bucks to prove your case tells the forum something. One, you live under a bridge and deem 10 bucks as a lot of cash, two, you're so full of shit that you back off and claim 'hard earned cash' when someone gives YOU an oppertunity to prove YOUR case to us. I think it's both. Anyway, don't have a car homosexuals drive? I vaguely remember something like that. Wow, so here's a revelation for the group. You make a post lusting after Ronnie's black, hot ass, call him your love muffin and drive a car popular amongst gays. Anything you want to share with us?
You won't and can't prove anything because you're a liar and full of shit. You try and rewrite history because it doesn't suit you troll. Listen to this troll, history is written by the victor and in this case the pen was picked up by Dorian Yates and he wrote six hard hitting chapters. I'm really sorry you cannot accept that, I truly am. Then I don't have to turn up at the forums now and again to see the same old troll begging for the same old bitch slapping he has been getting for years. Is it the Stockholm Syndrome in play here? Are you addicted to the pain bodybuilding history and bitch slapping brings you?
LOL... ;D...History is written by the victor... 8)
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How the hell did this turn into yet another Dorian vs. Ronnie vs. Nasser thread?
Because Trollster sees any thread with the words 'Olympia, Dorian or Ronnie' as another oppertunity to troll and bother decent people.
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look, you're about 3 years and 1700+ pages too late. Were all done with this topic but hulkster, go use the search button and type in "truce".
Click "hulkster I'm calling for a truce"
Read for the next year of your life, or 1700 pages, whichever comes first,
GEEZUS! THANK YOU! I didn't think another "truce" thread was gonna be born outta this one. I'm trying to derail it with thoughts of Flex Wheeler and the Olympia, but the same shit outta that truce thread is being put in here. ::)
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look, you're about 3 years and 1700+ pages too late. Were all done with this topic but hulkster, go use the search button and type in "truce".
Click "hulkster I'm calling for a truce"
Read for the next year of your life, or 1700 pages, whichever comes first,
them return and tell us if your opinion changed. ::)
you like Nasser, we get it, but anyone with any knowledge of how bodybuilding is judged understands why Nasser lost, why do you think the only people that agree with you are "team nasser"? Lol. I'm not here to educate you in bodybuilding, go do that yourself and get back to us when you a can say more than " I think Nasser is better even though he has no back"
how does this support dorian being better than nasser or ronnie? it doesn't. don't try to change the subject, where's proof that dorian is the best.
PS yes we know dorian won the show but that doesn't mean he deserved to, if you think the best bodybuilder always wins the show you must have a very short attention span.
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how does this support dorian being better than nasser or ronnie? it doesn't. don't try to change the subject, where's proof that dorian is the best.
PS yes we know dorian won the show but that doesn't mean he deserved to, if you think the best bodybuilder always wins the show you must have a very short attention span.
Negative, look, fact is, no matter what anyone says or shows you, youre just gonna say Nasser is better and Ronnie is better, youve made up your mind, and its not going to change. Im not going to waste my time.
Ive been trying to do this with Hulkster for 3 years and I finally gave up, im not gonna start it up again.
Fact - Dorian was just as large, FAR better conditioning, HAD A BACK (the back is not just a single muscle, its a complex group made up of MANY large muscles, Im sure you know that, but its not a FRONT bodybuilding contest, the whole body needs to be there, Dorian had "weak" biceps (and not at his best in 93), Nasser was missing EVERY muscle in his back from the below the traps, NO conditioning on the back, etc. Nasser = Massively incomplete BB. But youve already said that you thought nasser was better, he "just" didnt have a back. Lol.
BB is judged on three things, Muscular Bulk, Conditioning, and Balance and Proportion, and by those catagories, Dorian beat Nasser every time except for the possible exception of 97. Balance and proportion is top to bottom FRONT TO BACK, BB is not judged on which bodyparts are better than the competition. ::) Not to mention Dorians conditioning is legendary, Youll barely ever hear of Nassers conditioning, except from TEAM NASSER> lol.
I think Dorian was so injured and so far off (97) that Nasser should have won that year. Dorian had torn Bi's and Tri and leg I believe, and he couldnt train his arms for weaks before the contest, so they looked tiny and atrophed.
Anyway thats it, im not getting into again.;
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Nasser > Dorian
Ronnie > Dorian
you still haven't made a valid point that proves this statement wrong
hahaha and you have? Facts and history prove me right. Come back when you have something.
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websites are as good of proof as anything in this case.
you make the ridiculous claim that the contest was not controversial.
I showed you that in the real world (not your bizzaro world), it certainly was and always will be.
too bad for you.
yet another case of ND's claims being shot down by real life and he dismisses the proof like he always does.. how typical, predictable and sad.
I just posted quotes frim ALL the magazines plus Shawn outrigjt saying he got the place he desreved and the fact. NONE of his closest rivals claimed he didn't win then to asd insult to injury I post Flex magazimes 15 moat shocking and comtroversial momemts and not one fucking memtion of 94 or 97. You think your shitty little website blurb touches that? You moron 2001 is on that list a contest you moronically claimed Ronnie dominated lmfao
as usual you comtradict facts and history run along stupid
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LOL you think I am going to spend my hard earned money to prove what I know and everyone else knows who has the mag to some idiot nuthuggers in denial that anything bad was ever printed about their one armed hero? ::)
lol what a waste of money that would be. spend money to prove what I already know, and anyone with the mag can verify. it would be easier just to get a getbigger who has it to scan it and shut you idiots up.
but what good what it do? you know that what I said was printed actually was, or I wouldn't be stating it often. otherwise anyone with the mag could just come on here and prove me wrong. and that will never happen.
I am not stupid enough to risk that buddy. nor I am stupid enough to throw money away just to please a guy. sorry but I own my own house,car etc (something that
few getbiggers and especially nuthuggers will ever do lol :P) and I am not wasting money on something like this.
I am way too smart for that. some people are dumb with money. I am not.
:P
meltdown
wow talk about insecure bragging about what you have on a message board lmmfao bragging about your Ford Escape L.MFAO I cam always count on yoir for a luagh
who gucking cares what johnmey fitmess had to say in the muscle go roimd section? Who? does it mean its true? Does he somehow trump the judges? or Shawn who said he got the place he deserved NOPE thanks for playing.
Flex said he beat Ronnie in 99 Kevin said he beat Romnie in 00 02 and Jay in 01 by your retarded logic ALL of these contests were controversial. Retard logic right up your alley
if its someone you like Ronnie 01 hes dominating and its not controversial but if its someone you dont like Dorian its a fix amd its controversial. You're a hypocrite and wrong
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Flex said he beat Ronnie in 99
This is true. ;D
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hahaha and you have? Facts and history prove me right. Come back when you have something.
we've been over this, just because someone wins a bodybuilding contest, doesn't mean they deserved to.
I posted pictures earlier and you didn't have much to say, you just keep trying to say "well dorian won that means he's the best"
so tell me, what makes dorian better
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Negative, look, fact is, no matter what anyone says or shows you, youre just gonna say Nasser is better and Ronnie is better, youve made up your mind, and its not going to change. Im not going to waste my time.
Ive been trying to do this with Hulkster for 3 years and I finally gave up, im not gonna start it up again.
Fact - Dorian was just as large, FAR better conditioning, HAD A BACK (the back is not just a single muscle, its a complex group made up of MANY large muscles, Im sure you know that, but its not a FRONT bodybuilding contest, the whole body needs to be there, Dorian had "weak" biceps (and not at his best in 93), Nasser was missing EVERY muscle in his back from the below the traps, NO conditioning on the back, etc. Nasser = Massively incomplete BB. But youve already said that you thought nasser was better, he "just" didnt have a back. Lol.
BB is judged on three things, Muscular Bulk, Conditioning, and Balance and Proportion, and by those catagories, Dorian beat Nasser every time except for the possible exception of 97. Balance and proportion is top to bottom FRONT TO BACK, BB is not judged on which bodyparts are better than the competition. ::) Not to mention Dorians conditioning is legendary, Youll barely ever hear of Nassers conditioning, except from TEAM NASSER> lol.
I think Dorian was so injured and so far off (97) that Nasser should have won that year. Dorian had torn Bi's and Tri and leg I believe, and he couldnt train his arms for weaks before the contest, so they looked tiny and atrophed.
Anyway thats it, im not getting into again.;
lets break it down for you
legs - nasser
arms- nasser
chest - nasser
shoulders - nasser
back - dorian
the total package - nasser
in 95 96 and 97 nasser was also much bigger more separated and better conditioned
post pics to prove any of these statements wrong.
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we've been over this, just because someone wins a bodybuilding contest, doesn't mean they deserved to.
I posted pictures earlier and you didn't have much to say, you just keep trying to say "well dorian won that means he's the best"
so tell me, what makes dorian better
according to who? You? The judges picks are correct when you agree? When Nasser wins? Not how it works
you dont think Yates should have won the judges did they count you dont
in your fantasy contests Nasser is undefeated and a multiple mr olympia winner thats the only place he beats Doriam.
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yeah, because looking fat and drunk onstage is much better..:
::)
Oh well done troll, posting a pic of Dorian in a relaxed state. You proved .... what? No facts, no arguments, just fucking trolling post shitty selective pics. It's time to start paying your respects to the greatest bodybuilder that ever lived. Guess what, it aint Ronnie.
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Oh well done troll, posting a pic of Dorian in a relaxed state. You proved .... what? No facts, no arguments, just fucking trolling post shitty selective pics. It's time to start paying your respects to the greatest bodybuilder that ever lived. Guess what, it aint Ronnie.
spot on he"s a troll and nothing else oh wait he"s wrong as usual lol
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spot on he"s a troll and nothing else oh wait he"s wrong as usual lol
Main reason why Hulkster can't see Dorian's greatness is because he is too busy staring and drooling at Ronnie's glutes.
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lets break it down for you
legs - nasser
arms- nasser
chest - nasser
shoulders - nasser
back - dorian
the total package - nasser
in 95 96 and 97 nasser was also much bigger more separated and better conditioned
post pics to prove any of these statements wrong.
clearly you are incompetent.
You are just tryin to add up bodyparts and claim victory. That's not how it works. Clearly you don't know how BB is judges but you think you do, I informed you how it is judged in my post above, now I am through with you.
It doesn't matter what anyone says, you're convinced Nasser is better and you think you know something, and you don't. If you can't even grasp that a contest isn't judged on a bodyparts basis, well, you're a fucking moron.
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This thread opened a can of worms. :(
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every one here knows that if we took nassers body and dorians body and removed the head and name and had them both judged by an unbiased judging panel nasser would be considered a better bodybuilder. people just don't like to admit when their favorite has been bested by someone else, I'm not afraid to say nasser went completely downhill with his physique after 2000. again no one has posted pics to prove me wrong, they're just making claims.
as for ronnie we know he is much better than dorian, unless you think a whole contest should be judged of just calves.(http://lh5.ggpht.com/waqas.album/RY94-SXsJpI/AAAAAAAAAL4/mvftabiPYnM/RonnieColeman.jpg)
(http://www.fisicoculturismo.org/fotos/albums/nasser-el-sonbaty/fotos_nasser_el_sonbaty_034.jpg)
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This thread opened a can of worms. :(
your ass is next brother >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( ;)
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your ass is next brother >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( ;)
Bring it! ;D
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no shit.
if dorian himself could see the bullshit these idiots come up with to justify his being 'better' than ronnie at peak or some of his contemporaries, he would be embarrassed.
I mean really. this is famous 'photoelectric' effect that we used to joke about.
the idea that dorian looks shitty in pics/video, awesome in person, but that the same does not apply to ronnie or any of dorian's competitors..dorian had this magic effect that no other pro had, according to the nuthuggers LOL ::)
yes folks, the nuthuggers actually argued this point for a few years.. ::) ::)
where did you develop you insatiable lust for black-man-cock................did a burly African-American gentelman stretch your butt as a child??
your sick sexual fetish, and thats what it is, a sexual fetish............negate s any future statements about professional bodybuilding from you...........because your words come not from logic, ..........they come from shame, child associations, and projection deep withing the sexual centers of you brain.............you just come on here to act out
end your life............just like your parents did when they saw what a fucking disappointment you were ::) ::)
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every one here knows that if we took nassers body and dorians body and removed the head and name and had them both judged by an unbiased judging panel nasser would be considered a better bodybuilder. people just don't like to admit when their favorite has been bested by someone else, I'm not afraid to say nasser went completely downhill with his physique after 2000. again no one has posted pics to prove me wrong, they're just making claims.
as for ronnie we know he is much better than dorian, unless you think a whole contest should be judged of just calves.(http://lh5.ggpht.com/waqas.album/RY94-SXsJpI/AAAAAAAAAL4/mvftabiPYnM/RonnieColeman.jpg)
(http://www.fisicoculturismo.org/fotos/albums/nasser-el-sonbaty/fotos_nasser_el_sonbaty_034.jpg)
You dont judge a bb contest from 1 pic taken from 1 angle and try and claim superiority.
You really are a fucking moron. lol. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but you really are a fucking idiot.
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You dont judge a bb contest from 1 pic taken from 1 angle and try and claim superiority.
You really are a fucking moron. lol. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but you really are a fucking idiot.
i didn't post the pics too claim superiority, way to jump the gun poindexter. you melt down too much.
im still waiting on some nasser dorian side by side pics to prove my statement wrong
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(http://www.bigroncoleman.com/photos/6xo15.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2SN7til3Z2U/SidGRMNYBEI/AAAAAAAAAmU/fBjLjObdJJ4/s320/nasser.bmp)
(http://www.musclememory.com/images/current/ElSonbatyNasser_2.jpg)
pics induce team dorian to have severe hissy fits
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(http://www.bigroncoleman.com/photos/6xo15.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2SN7til3Z2U/SidGRMNYBEI/AAAAAAAAAmU/fBjLjObdJJ4/s320/nasser.bmp)
(http://www.musclememory.com/images/current/ElSonbatyNasser_2.jpg)
pics induce team dorian to have severe hissy fits
Until Nasser turned around, and even Arnold voiced his disappointment.
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Until Nasser turned around, and even Arnold voiced his disappointment.
we've been over this, I'm not a guy who thinks "Nasser had a great back"
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ok now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing
if you don't know what more complete means you don't know what you're looking at
let's break it down for you
who had better legs? nasser obviously
Who had better arms? nasser
who had a better chest? nasser again
Who's shoulders are better? nasser
but yates still wins lats
by better I mean more balanced, size, shape, condition. post pics of dorian and nasser together to prove any of these statements wrong
Are you just trollling here? It seems so based on your response.
Again, the only advantage Nasser had over Dorian as far as bodyparts go is biceps, the rest go to Dorian including legs, chest, shoulders and triceps.
I know what more complete means, its seems you don't know though.
by better I mean more balanced, size, shape, condition. post pics of dorian and nasser together to prove any of these statements wrong
Are you kidding? Nasser had better balance, size, shape and condition? Conditioning? ??? ;D I have to laugh at you, sorry.
Dorian had much better conditioning than Nasser, while having just as much size or even more.
You could give Nasser shape though, but barely.
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lets break it down for you
legs - nasser
arms- nasser
chest - nasser
shoulders - nasser
back - dorian
the total package - nasser
in 95 96 and 97 nasser was also much bigger more separated and better conditioned
post pics to prove any of these statements wrong.
Ok, you're just trolling around here........who's team nasser gimmick are you?
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Are you just trollling here? It seems so based on your response.
Again, the only advantage Nasser had over Dorian as far as bodyparts go is biceps, the rest go to Dorian including legs, chest, shoulders and triceps.
I know what more complete means, its seems you don't know though.
Are you kidding? Nasser had better balance, size, shape and condition? Conditioning? ??? ;D I have to laugh at you, sorry.
Dorian had much better conditioning than Nasser, while having just as much size or even more.
You could give Nasser shape though, but barely.
post pics of them together to prove it.
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(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYatesSmallArms.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v371/88/47/48163666888/n48163666888_1126441_631.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/nasserstoriesf.jpg)
(http://images.tmuscle.com/forum_images/9/9/99a5c-yates01.jpg)
(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7127/dorianyatesmostmuscular10hk.jpg)
(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nasser001-203x300.jpg)
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Ok, you're just trolling around here........who's team nasser gimmick are you?
Claiming someone is trolling is not helping your argument.
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Claiming someone is trolling is not helping your argument.
Kind of like your posts.
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Kind of like your posts.
in this case makes no sense, but still a clever post
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in this case makes no sense, but still a clever post
It's not personal, but you're following the same path - ignoring judging criteria, making it a collection of individual bodyparts, then using individual photos to back up your claim.
If you look at the reasons ND knows the judging criteria so well, it's because he himself couldn't understand how Flex Wheeler lost to Dorian Yates. Instead of taking the easy route, he learned about how the sport is judged. So, in essence, he started on the same page.
Your point about the best bodybulder on that day not winning the show just leads to the discussion of politics. Which leads to using your own subjective criteria to cherry pick which shows were the result of politics and which shows were correctly judged.....Wash, rinse, repeat.
But, throughout all this, although I feel Hulkster basically ties himself in knots every time he tries to make a point, the Dorian/Fat Bastard pics still cracks me up, and I'm a Dorian fan.
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It's not personal, but you're following the same path - ignoring judging criteria, making it a collection of individual bodyparts, then using individual photos to back up your claim.
If you look at the reasons ND knows the judging criteria so well, it's because he himself couldn't understand how Flex Wheeler lost to Dorian Yates. Instead of taking the easy route, he learned about how the sport is judged. So, in essence, he started on the same page.
Your point about the best bodybulder on that day not winning the show just leads to the discussion of politics. Which leads to using your own subjective criteria to cherry pick which shows were the result of politics and which shows were correctly judged.....Wash, rinse, repeat.
But, throughout all this, although I feel Hulkster basically ties himself in knots every time he tries to make a point, the Dorian/Fat Bastard pics still cracks me up, and I'm a Dorian fan.
so are we gonna fight or what?
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs532.ash1/31225_127509183928613_100000085964738_333664_4317932_n.jpg)
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;D ;D
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Main reason why Hulkster can't see Dorian's greatness is because he is too busy staring and drooling at Ronnie's glutes.
So true lol
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So true lol
oh man Hulkster I can't help you here
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post pics of them together to prove it.
You're a troll just like our dumb friend Hulkster , any pictures posted wont satisfy your point of view because you already have a predetermined opinion , you're not looking for a ' debate ' you're looking to troll and nothing more , so good luck with it.
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You're a troll just like our dumb friend Hulkster , any pictures posted wont satisfy your point of view because you already have a predetermined opinion , you're not looking for a ' debate ' you're looking to troll and nothing more , so good luck with it.
you know pics will prove my point. if you wanna post nasser at the 2002 olympia and dorian at the 92, I'll be happy to say dorian is better
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you know pics will prove my point. if you wanna post nasser at the 2002 olympia and dorian at the 92, I'll be happy to say dorian is better
Pics will prove your point to you, not to anyone that knows what youre looking at, thats why we all refuse to debate with you.
You already have decided who looks better, it doesnt matter what pics we post. lol.
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you know pics will prove my point. if you wanna post nasser at the 2002 olympia and dorian at the 92, I'll be happy to say dorian is better
Sure they will ::) you're just like Hulkster and Bigbobs and every other delusional guy who sees what they want to see , you see Nasser winning , I see Dorian winning and so did the judges this renders your opinion worthless
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Pics will prove your point to you, not to anyone that knows what youre looking at, thats why we all refuse to debate with you.
You already have decided who looks better, it doesnt matter what pics we post. lol.
I don't choose who has the better physique based on my favorite. I don't care for flex Wheeler but he beats JP Fux anyday
nasser is just better, seeing them side by side proves it
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Sure they will ::) you're just like Hulkster and Bigbobs and every other delusional guy who sees what they want to see , you see Nasser winning , I see Dorian winning and so did the judges this renders your opinion worthless
please explain to me how dorian is better and back it up with a pic, it's not a hard task or concept
here's an example
(http://www.vucutbilim.com/portal/images/stories/Haberler/roportage/flex_wheeler.jpg)
(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/object3/1724/41/n51203982735_1105.jpg)
JPF has too much gut, not nearly as sharp and lacks flex's balance
in the nasser/dorian pics,
relaxed - dorian is noticably smaller has much thicker waist with unseparated quads and appears to be drunk
FDB - if need to explain this one you're blind
most muscular - they both have good striations in the chest but once again nasser completely out masses dorian, and has both arms
if you think size doesn't matter then I suggest re-reading the word bodybuilding, or we can talk about why shawn ray never won an olympia
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please explain to me how dorian is better and back it up with a pic, it's not a hard task or concept
here's an example
(http://www.vucutbilim.com/portal/images/stories/Haberler/roportage/flex_wheeler.jpg)
(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/object3/1724/41/n51203982735_1105.jpg)
JPF has too much gut, not nearly as sharp and lacks flex's balance
Where should I begin? a fully-flexed pic of a contest ready Wheeler with posing oil and contest lighting compared to a semi-flexed Fux off-season , and you're claiming he's ' not as sharp ' lmfao
I don't have to explained how Dorian was better , you want that info ask the judges all 13 of them who independently came to that conclusion , Dorian was deemed better you have your excuses and he has the Sandows.
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Where should I begin? a fully-flexed pic of a contest ready Wheeler with posing oil and contest lighting compared to a semi-flexed Fux off-season , and you're claiming he's ' not as sharp ' lmfao
I don't have to explained how Dorian was better , you want that info ask the judges all 13 of them who independently came to that conclusion , Dorian was deemed better you have your excuses and he has the Sandows.
we've been through the judges, what they say is not always the truth, your talking circles and keep going back to the "he won that means he's the best" conclusion, which is just not valid
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we've been through the judges, what they say is not always the truth, your talking circles and keep going back to the "he won that means he's the best" conclusion, which is just not valid
Yeah we have been through the judges , they are WRONG when you don't like the winner and RIGHT when you do
the ' comparison ' you just posted was beyond laughable and it's no wonder why you think Yates lost to Nasser you're ignorant to how the game is played
You just posted an off-season picture of a semi-flexed Fux compared to a enhanced picture of a contest ready Flex with contest lighting and posing oil fully flexed and you actually had the balls to type Flex is ' sharper ' lmfao you know nothing and you've just proven that
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Where the hell did Team Nasser go? Are they plotting another attempt with new information and pics of stating Nasser was robbed numerous times of the Mr O?
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My guess is that they're posting under the name "Nirvana" and getting a good laugh at how riled up they're getting everyone.
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My guess is that they're posting under the name "Nirvana" and getting a good laugh at how riled up they're getting everyone.
Is anyone really riled up? ???
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we've been through the judges, what they say is not always the truth, your talking circles and keep going back to the "he won that means he's the best" conclusion, which is just not valid
Heres the bottom line...
The only thing you have to support your claims is politics.
You look at pics and see completely different things than the rest of us.
Hence why we are refusing to indulge your argument.
When I look at pics of the two of them, I see Dorian winning every pose against Nasser short of the FDB.
Dorian SLAUGHTERS Nasser in the quarter turns and the Back poses, not to mention the side tri, side chest, and FLS.
Guess what... the judges and history agree with me. All you have is your claim of politics.
Guess who loses. And its not Dorian. ;)
If you cant see how Dorians conditioning is better than Nasser, then youre blind.
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=22739&id=40070&Itemid=202)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=3704&id=39648&Itemid=266)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=22739&id=39993&Itemid=266)
Lol At Nasser winning from the side. ::)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=22739&id=39995&Itemid=202)
FUCKING LAWL!!
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=22739&id=40113&Itemid=266)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=3704&id=39709&Itemid=202)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=22739&id=40163&Itemid=266)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=22739&id=40146&Itemid=266)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=22739&id=40138&Itemid=266)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=22739&id=40137&Itemid=266)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=22739&id=40118&Itemid=266)
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well you're right my opinion is not changed, dorian was in condition that year, but so was nasser. nasser just simply had a more complete balanced massive physique, therefore the cliched "3X at least" phrase comes to mind
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Is anyone really riled up? ???
you guys like to cuss and call names and act immature in some posts
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you guys like to cuss and call names and act immature in some posts
Find a post where I ' cussed ' and if calling you a troll constitutes name calling them I'm guilty
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well you're right my opinion is not changed, dorian was in condition that year, but so was nasser. nasser just simply had a more complete balanced massive physique, therefore the cliched "3X at least" phrase comes to mind
since when is missing and entire and complex muscle group like a back considered ' complete ' ? ???
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My guess is that they're posting under the name "Nirvana" and getting a good laugh at how riled up they're getting everyone.
team nasser will believe anything nasser says no matter how ridiculous
they think nasser had a good back and should have won the gnc pro show in 2004
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v357/88/47/48163666888/n48163666888_1130049_4549.jpg)
they don't like to discuss photos like this
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this should do
"I just posted quotes frim ALL the magazines plus Shawn outrigjt saying he got the place he desreved and the fact. NONE of his closest rivals claimed he didn't win then to asd insult to injury I post Flex magazimes 15 moat shocking and comtroversial momemts and not one fucking memtion of 94 or 97. You think your shitty little website blurb touches that? You moron 2001 is on that list a contest you moronically claimed Ronnie dominated lmfao
as usual you comtradict facts and history run along stupid"
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this should do
"I just posted quotes frim ALL the magazines plus Shawn outrigjt saying he got the place he desreved and the fact. NONE of his closest rivals claimed he didn't win then to asd insult to injury I post Flex magazimes 15 moat shocking and comtroversial momemts and not one fucking memtion of 94 or 97. You think your shitty little website blurb touches that? You moron 2001 is on that list a contest you moronically claimed Ronnie dominated lmfao
as usual you comtradict facts and history run along stupid"
Hulkster is everything I typed he is and that's a proven fact. ;)
did I call you any names other than troll?
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since when is missing and entire and complex muscle group like a back considered ' complete ' ? ???
it may not be as good as dorians but its not torn or lacking separation or bloated
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Hulkster is everything I typed he is and that's a proven fact. ;)
did I call you any names other than troll?
either way my point is proven
but shockwave is much more volatile
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it may not be as good as dorians but its not torn or lacking separation or bloated
It's not torn? his back is missing anything to tear , it's lacking depth , thickness , separation and detail , he has good width and that's it.
a torn bicep is not even a blurb compared to Nasser's back which was a major liability one he acknowledged constantly
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total package with subpar back vs birdie back with subpar total package
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total package with subpar back vs birdie back with subpar total package
Does the ' total package ' also include lackluster conditioning? a long torso? short legs? I mean you're making vast overstatements
It's all about the criteria and who meets all of it better than their contemporaries in each and every pose and round that's how's it done , so while Nasser wins some poses Dorian wins more and the whole contest.
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Does the ' total package ' also include lackluster conditioning? a long torso? short legs? I mean you're making vast overstatements
It's all about the criteria and who meets all of it better than their contemporaries in each and every pose and round that's how's it done , so while Nasser wins some poses Dorian wins more and the whole contest.
in 95 96 and 97 nasser was in great condition, dorian was too except in 97, as for long legs and short torso- thats just some lame excuse some one made up for the nasser nights thread
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in 95 96 and 97 nasser was in great condition, dorian was too except in 97, as for long legs and short torso- thats just some lame excuse some one made up for the nasser nights thread
from the front , from the back all those years Nasser was SOFT especially compared to Yates , Dorian's conditioning in 97 was better than Nasser's , torn parts were his problem not conditioning , and it's short legs long torso , you can't even keep track of the argument , and it's not a ' lame excuse ' it's part of the judging criteria , judges look for these things , fan-boys gloss right over them.
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Heres the bottom line...
The only thing you have to support your claims is politics.
You look at pics and see completely different things than the rest of us.
Hence why we are refusing to indulge your argument.
When I look at pics of the two of them, I see Dorian winning every pose against Nasser short of the FDB.
Dorian SLAUGHTERS Nasser in the quarter turns and the Back poses, not to mention the side tri, side chest, and FLS.
Guess what... the judges and history agree with me. All you have is your claim of politics.
Guess who loses. And its not Dorian. ;)
If you cant see how Dorians conditioning is better than Nasser, then youre blind.
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=22739&id=40070&Itemid=202)
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Lol At Nasser winning from the side. ::)
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FUCKING LAWL!!
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Well played.
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oh man Hulkster I can't help you here
don't need to.
notice the smilie faces at the end of both of those posts? thats right - it denotes sarcasm.
something that the nuthuggers lack the intelligence to understand.. ::)
typical dumb nuthuggers :-\.
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the Dorian/Fat Bastard pics still cracks me up, and I'm a Dorian fan.
I take full credit for those :). the similarities are just too uncanny! ;D
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from the front , from the back all those years Nasser was SOFT especially compared to Yates , Dorian's conditioning in 97 was better than Nasser's , torn parts were his problem not conditioning , and it's short legs long torso , you can't even keep track of the argument , and it's not a ' lame excuse ' it's part of the judging criteria , judges look for these things , fan-boys gloss right over them.
uh no, the long torso-short leg claim is just not applicable, no back sure, but that is just a desperate attempt to play down a physique
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uh no, the long torso-short leg claim is just not applicable, no back sure, but that is just a desperate attempt to play down a physique
Look, when hes standing alone, its not a big deal.
When hes standing next to someone with a better structure, it matters.
I keep saying it, you just prefer Nasser's look and thats what youre basing your opinions on.
There is nothing wrong with that, but to try and claim your opinion is FACT, is stupid.
And since history, (not to mention most people) disagree with you, all you have is politics.
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Look, when hes standing alone, its not a big deal.
When hes standing next to someone with a better structure, it matters.
I keep saying it, you just prefer Nasser's look and thats what youre basing your opinions on.
There is nothing wrong with that, but to try and claim your opinion is FACT, is stupid.
And since history, (not to mention most people) disagree with you, all you have is politics.
lots of people outside the board believe nasser should have won an olympia. no one ever back in the 90s or any other time has ever claimed nasser had bad structure, someone made it up for another thread now everyone tries to use it. I should say blonde hair makes dorian look bad, then all team nasser would use it. nasser is known for having a great structure including small waist and wide shoulders
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It's gotten to the point where I don't even wanna click on my own thread anymore because this has turned into another "truce" thread. >:(
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It's gotten to the point where I don't even wanna click on my own thread anymore because this has turned into another "truce" thread. >:(
you should've just deleted the thread and pissed us all off
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you should've just deleted the thread and pissed us all off
Unfortunately, you can not delete your own thread. Just your own message(s).