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Title: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: theworm on July 19, 2010, 07:04:36 AM
IE. tampa pro.

do they pay for travel and hotel for these shows?


Most people are lucky to win 1000 bucks.  It cost that much just to travel and stay at a decent hotel in Tampa.
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: io856 on July 19, 2010, 07:08:14 AM
here we go again  ::)
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: theworm on July 19, 2010, 07:12:27 AM
its a fair question.    I honestly have no idea.
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: BayGBM on July 19, 2010, 08:18:40 AM
IE. tampa pro.

do they pay for travel and hotel for these shows?


Most people are lucky to win 1000 bucks.  It cost that much just to travel and stay at a decent hotel in Tampa.

You pay one way or another...  ::)
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: lift 456 on July 19, 2010, 08:22:52 AM
Like gyms, most hotels will recognize they are professional athletes and comp the room.
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 19, 2010, 08:24:16 AM
IE. tampa pro.

do they pay for travel and hotel for these shows?


Most people are lucky to win 1000 bucks.  It cost that much just to travel and stay at a decent hotel in Tampa.

Only in the 10k shows and it depends.  Some promoters pay top bodybuilders to compete in their show and provide hotel, meals, transportation, etc.  The Olympia or the Arnold Classic doesn't pay any competitor expenses
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Devon97 on July 19, 2010, 08:25:58 AM
Only in the 10k shows and it depends.  Some promoters pay top bodybuilders to compete in their show and provide hotel, meals, transportation, etc.  The Olympia or the Arnold Classic doesn't pay any competitor expenses


Are you sure Vince? Do they get perdium (sp?) or do they actually get a driver waiting for them at the airport?
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 19, 2010, 08:32:53 AM

Are you sure Vince? Do they get perdium (sp?) or do they actually get a driver waiting for them at the airport?

Ha Ha.  Hell no they don't get a driver or even a rental car.  They either get a shuttle bus ticket or reimbursed for a taxi cab (usually bus fare).  I rode the shuttle bus one time sitting next to Darrem Charles and one highly pissed off David Henry. 
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 19, 2010, 09:10:40 AM
Like gyms, most hotels will recognize they are professional athletes and comp the room.

 ;D
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Chick on July 19, 2010, 09:26:02 AM
Only in the 10k shows and it depends.  Some promoters pay top bodybuilders to compete in their show and provide hotel, meals, transportation, etc.  The Olympia or the Arnold Classic doesn't pay any competitor expenses

100% wrong, Vince...

Both the ASC and Olympia pay ALL the expenses for the show...hotel, airfare, and 150/ per diem.

Circuit shows are subject to the promoter...some pay hotel/ air, etc...some dont. Most cases, they will pay for a certain amount of pro's...
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Princess L on July 19, 2010, 09:26:27 AM
IE. tampa pro.

do they pay for travel and hotel for these shows?


Most people are lucky to win 1000 bucks.  It cost that much just to travel and stay at a decent hotel in Tampa.

As a guest poser or as a competitor?
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Devon97 on July 19, 2010, 11:55:58 AM
100% wrong, Vince...

Both the ASC and Olympia pay ALL the expenses for the show...hotel, airfare, and 150/ per diem.

Circuit shows are subject to the promoter...some pay hotel/ air, etc...some dont. Most cases, they will pay for a certain amount of pro's...

BoB,

Would you agree that most shows can barely break even from ticket sales? THerefore how would it be worth their while to subsidize the travel costs of a Pro bber?
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 19, 2010, 12:01:15 PM
Depends on which judge they're staying with ;D
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Chick on July 19, 2010, 12:50:30 PM
BoB,

Would you agree that most shows can barely break even from ticket sales? THerefore how would it be worth their while to subsidize the travel costs of a Pro bber?

yes, no show can break even with ticket sales...that said, it's the sponsor money that makes up the majority of revenue, not ticket sales.

Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Benny B on July 19, 2010, 01:01:46 PM
100% wrong, Vince...

Both the ASC and Olympia pay ALL the expenses for the show...hotel, airfare, and 150/ per diem.

Circuit shows are subject to the promoter...some pay hotel/ air, etc...some dont. Most cases, they will pay for a certain amount of pro's...
Oops! Vince once again shows himself to be the village idiot.  ;D
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: noworries on July 19, 2010, 10:27:41 PM
Ha Ha.  Hell no they don't get a driver or even a rental car.  They either get a shuttle bus ticket or reimbursed for a taxi cab (usually bus fare).  I rode the shuttle bus one time sitting next to Darrem Charles and one highly pissed off David Henry. 

You are full of shit.  The Arnold and Olympia are invitational events (or you have to qualify).  The airfare, hotel and maybe some meals with some kind of per diem is paid to each competitor.  That is what happens at an invitational event.  If a pro or celebrity is invited to an event they do  not pay shit.  And all transportation to and from the event is taken care of.  See Goodrum you are talking out of your ass again.  Fuck you are stupid.
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: noworries on July 19, 2010, 10:29:13 PM
Just saw Chic's post.  But regardless Goodrum gets caught again not knowing what he is talking about.  No wonder he hasn't been back to post on here
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Ron on July 19, 2010, 11:24:22 PM

Goodrum most of the time doesn't know what he is talking about - hence no one takes him seriously.

Yes, the Arnold and Olympia take very good care of the competitors.

Smaller shows are different.   Professional bodybuilders, if they are a self employed business, can deduct the expenses. All competitors market themselves. Get the good sponsorship deals, the right contracts, endorsements, etc. 

Some of the athletes have their room and expenses covered by their sponsors or endorsement companies, and some don't.


Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 19, 2010, 11:30:32 PM
Only in the 10k shows and it depends.  Some promoters pay top bodybuilders to compete in their show and provide hotel, meals, transportation, etc.  The Olympia or the Arnold Classic doesn't pay any competitor expenses

Vince, will you be competing in the Negro homo Classic this year? And if so, do they cover hotel, meal, transportation, dildo's, anal lube etc etc?
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: lesaucer on July 19, 2010, 11:46:02 PM
Vince, will you be competing in the Negro homo Classic this year? And if so, do they cover hotel, meal, transportation, dildo's, anal lube etc etc?

lololololol
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 19, 2010, 11:59:05 PM
Goodrum most of the time doesn't know what he is talking about - hence no one takes him seriously.

Yes, the Arnold and Olympia take very good care of the competitors.

Smaller shows are different.   Professional bodybuilders, if they are a self employed business, can deduct the expenses. All competitors market themselves. Get the good sponsorship deals, the right contracts, endorsements, etc. 

Some of the athletes have their room and expenses covered by their sponsors or endorsement companies, and some don't.





LOLOL

Check out our fearless leader doing a little owning  ;D
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: noworries on July 20, 2010, 12:19:53 AM
Ha Ha.  Hell no they don't get a driver or even a rental car.  They either get a shuttle bus ticket or reimbursed for a taxi cab (usually bus fare).  I rode the shuttle bus one time sitting next to Darrem Charles and one highly pissed off David Henry. 

I can guarantee you this is a lie.  No way ever would those guys be caught dead on the same bus as you no matter what.  Maybe this is one of your dreams you seem to have alot.  Have you ever dressed Vissy up as a black bodybuilder so you can say you've had sex with one.  Or maybe deress Vissy up as a life-sized grapefruit
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: James28 on July 20, 2010, 12:26:49 AM
Dear me, this slimy Vince creature caught lying again.
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: marcos chacon on July 20, 2010, 12:47:26 AM
i dont know in USA but in SPAIN  at amatuer level at the nationals competitors get paid hotel and food, for the week end, why shouldnt it be the same for the pros when there is only 20 pros more aless in a competition, last spanish nationals allmost 200 competitors, with hotel paid by organitation.
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: disturbia on July 20, 2010, 01:38:06 AM
Goodrum most of the time doesn't know what he is talking about - hence no one takes him seriously.

Yes, the Arnold and Olympia take very good care of the competitors.

Smaller shows are different.   Professional bodybuilders, if they are a self employed business, can deduct the expenses. All competitors market themselves. Get the good sponsorship deals, the right contracts, endorsements, etc. 

Some of the athletes have their room and expenses covered by their sponsors or endorsement companies, and some don't.




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Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 20, 2010, 01:49:18 AM
i dont know in USA but in SPAIN  at amatuer level at the nationals competitors get paid hotel and food, for the week end, why shouldnt it be the same for the pros when there is only 20 pros more aless in a competition, last spanish nationals allmost 200 competitors, with hotel paid by organitation.

agree 100%. However, if I was a promoter and I found out one of the competitors NEVER trained a certain body part(Calves)in there life time and may not ever know how to, then I probably wouldn't let then compete in my show. Let alone let them speak at a seminar
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Schmoe Buster on July 20, 2010, 02:08:54 AM
agree 100%. However, if I was a promoter and I found out one of the competitors NEVER trained a certain body part(Calves)in there life time and may not ever know how to, then I probably wouldn't let then compete in my show. Let alone let them speak at a seminar

LOL ;D
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: WillGrant on July 20, 2010, 04:22:42 AM
Goodrum most of the time doesn't know what he is talking about - hence no one takes him seriously.



LMAO  ;D
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 20, 2010, 05:36:31 AM
100% wrong, Vince...

Both the ASC and Olympia pay ALL the expenses for the show...hotel, airfare, and 150/ per diem.

Circuit shows are subject to the promoter...some pay hotel/ air, etc...some dont. Most cases, they will pay for a certain amount of pro's...


For every competitor!!!  When did they start doing that for the ASC and Olympia ??  I asked a few competitors at the expo and they told me that they had to front all of their expenses which mainly came from their sponsors.

If that's the case, then why are so many competitors skipping the Olympia and the ASC for?? 
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 20, 2010, 05:42:24 AM
Goodrum most of the time doesn't know what he is talking about - hence no one takes him seriously.

Yes, the Arnold and Olympia take very good care of the competitors.

Smaller shows are different.   Professional bodybuilders, if they are a self employed business, can deduct the expenses. All competitors market themselves. Get the good sponsorship deals, the right contracts, endorsements, etc.  

Some of the athletes have their room and expenses covered by their sponsors or endorsement companies, and some don't.





I do know that this forum is running slower than my Ford Escort I had when I got out of the Army as well as keeping my sites from being hacked into and shut down for a week

Sorry, but I still don't believe that every competitor is being compensated for airfare and travel.  Maybe some competitors but not all if any at all.
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Gino30 on July 20, 2010, 05:53:16 AM

I do know that this forum is running slower than my Ford Escort I had when I got out of the Army as well as keeping my sites from being hacked into and shut down for a week

Sorry, but I still don't believe that every competitor is being compensated for airfare and travel.  Maybe some competitors but not all if any at all.

Chick would no better than anyone else on what the pro's get paid......what more proof do you need?


Btw, Getbig is keeping your sites from being hacked? That doesn't even make sense.



Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: affeman on July 20, 2010, 06:03:05 AM
At most smaller shows NOTHING gets paid, the competitors have to cover all of their expenses themselves.

That's the reason why many many European BBs stay in the Amateur ranks eventough having pro potential, cause for International Amateur contests they get paid everything (flight, hotel,..) from their national federation, while turning pro and competing in pro shows they get nothing.

If you don't have the potential of a Dennis Wolf and have the genetics and looks for getting major supplement contracts and place in the Top 3-5 of the Arnolds or Olympia, it makes ZERO sense for any European BB to turn pro, acting as cannon fodder for the places 12-15 at 3rd tier shows.

Look at Paco, brought insane size and conditioning, travels from Spain to Tampa paying himself for his flight, hotel, and everything else, and is sent back home with an 8th place, ZERO price money or anything else. What's the point?? Without a sponsor and plenty of exposure they won't ever let him in a final in the US, no matter how good he looks. Why doesn't he compete as an Amateur in European or World Championships, getting paid for all of his expenses and fights there for the Top spots instead of getting overlooked at fucking hicksville shows in the US.
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Chick on July 20, 2010, 06:27:40 AM

For every competitor!!!  When did they start doing that for the ASC and Olympia ??  I asked a few competitors at the expo and they told me that they had to front all of their expenses which mainly came from their sponsors.

If that's the case, then why are so many competitors skipping the Olympia and the ASC for?? 

Yes, Vince...every competitor. The only exception being the 202, which is fairly new...mens open, womens BB, fitness, figure all have hotel, airfare, and per diem covered....at the ARNOLD, ALL competitors.

Competitors choose to skip the big shows for a variety of reasons...
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: HUGEPECS on July 20, 2010, 06:40:29 AM
shit, Can you stop putting your feet up your ass, Vince. just shut the fuck up about this subject. nuff said
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: TEsticles on July 20, 2010, 09:47:11 AM

For every competitor!!!  When did they start doing that for the ASC and Olympia ??  I asked a few competitors at the expo and they told me that they had to front all of their expenses which mainly came from their sponsors.

If that's the case, then why are so many competitors skipping the Olympia and the ASC for?? 
the competitors probably told you this hoping you don't turn up knowing you don't have the money............
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: SF1900 on July 20, 2010, 10:07:21 AM
Vince getting PWNED. He just needs to shut up.
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on July 20, 2010, 10:24:42 AM
You pay one way or another...  ::)

That's what she said.....
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: marcos chacon on July 20, 2010, 10:30:03 AM
agree 100%. However, if I was a promoter and I found out one of the competitors NEVER trained a certain body part(Calves)in there life time and may not ever know how to, then I probably wouldn't let then compete in my show. Let alone let them speak at a seminar
i know u love me, what i gain sayng i dont train calves? i dont care if u believe me or not.
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Meso_z on July 20, 2010, 11:31:54 AM
Only in the 10k shows and it depends.  Some promoters pay top bodybuilders to compete in their show and provide hotel, meals, transportation, etc.  The Olympia or the Arnold Classic doesn't pay any competitor expenses
fuck you
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: CalvinH on July 20, 2010, 12:03:08 PM
Is a room at the Mirage next to the ice machine comped ???
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 20, 2010, 01:45:28 PM
Yes, Vince...every competitor. The only exception being the 202, which is fairly new...mens open, womens BB, fitness, figure all have hotel, airfare, and per diem covered....at the ARNOLD, ALL competitors.

Competitors choose to skip the big shows for a variety of reasons...

Well, things have changed for the better which is good for the industry.  But I have to correct you in stating that I was 33% correct as far as the 10k shows are concerned.     
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: no one on July 20, 2010, 07:25:02 PM
Well, things have changed for the better which is good for the industry.  But I have to correct you in stating that I was 33% correct as far as the 10k shows are concerned.     

shut up you fucking imbecile.
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: tarzan on July 20, 2010, 08:35:49 PM
Well, things have changed for the better which is good for the industry.  But I have to correct you in stating that I was 33% correct as far as the 10k shows are concerned.     

33% correct - LMAO! Now that is something to be proud of. In school that would mean you got an F.
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: noworries on July 20, 2010, 09:52:55 PM
Well, things have changed for the better which is good for the industry.  But I have to correct you in stating that I was 33% correct as far as the 10k shows are concerned.     

You are a LOSER.  Even in this sentance you accept being just 33% right as a victory.  Once a loser ALWAYS a loser.  You are a fucking moronic imbecile idiot.  First off no fucking pro would be caught dead talking or seen with you.  You are hated by everyone, don't you see that.  If by chance they said that then it is obvious they were fucking with you.  You are that stupid.  What a fucking embarrassment you are.  No wonder your family ignores you and don't tell you about family reunions.  Who in their right mind would ever want to admit they are associated with you.  You are a fucking liar and you have been caught again.  Even Ron who never says anything negative about anyone concurs you are a liar.  Get the fuck out of here.  You poison this place. 
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: polychronopolous on July 20, 2010, 09:57:56 PM
You are a LOSER.  Even in this sentance you accept being just 33% right as a victory.  Once a loser ALWAYS a loser.  You are a fucking moronic imbecile idiot.  First off no fucking pro would be caught dead talking or seen with you.  You are hated by everyone, don't you see that.  If by chance they said that then it is obvious they were fucking with you.  You are that stupid.  What a fucking embarrassment you are.  No wonder your family ignores you and don't tell you about family reunions.  Who in their right mind would ever want to admit they are associated with you.  You are a fucking liar and you have been caught again.  Even Ron who never says anything negative about anyone concurs you are a liar.  Get the fuck out of here.  You poison this place. 

Damn Keith that's some solid ownage right there.
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: noworries on July 20, 2010, 10:04:36 PM
Damn Keith that's some solid ownage right there.

I just get so sick of his bullshit.  I literally hate anyone like him who pretends and talks to people like he is an expert in everything when in fact he has no experience in anything he talks about.  He puts hi two cents in topic he has no idea anything about.  He just makes up shit and then gets caught doing it.  He is truly a mental case and would love it if someone would just shut him up.  In real life he could no way talk the way he can on the internet.  His bullshit can continue as long as he can type.  He wouldn't last a minute acting like he does in real life.
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: James28 on July 20, 2010, 11:51:23 PM
But I have to correct you in stating that I was 33% correct as far as the 10k shows are concerned.      

LOL, omfg seriously? Are you for real or just making this shit up? Sweet Jesus poor negro, what things you must've suffered in your childhood to have such pathetic words drivel out of your fingers, warped mind and flabby body.

Ok Vince, 33% eh, take 24% and we call you 'correct'.

Stupid fucking insect.
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: noworries on July 21, 2010, 01:27:50 AM

For every competitor!!!  When did they start doing that for the ASC and Olympia ??  I asked a few competitors at the expo and they told me that they had to front all of their expenses which mainly came from their sponsors.

If that's the case, then why are so many competitors skipping the Olympia and the ASC for?? 

I may be wrong you idiot but you have to qualify for both contests.  Of course you wouldn't know that cause you have never placed higher than last in everything you have done.  So I am pretty sure most of the guy skipping these contests did not qualify.

Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: noworries on July 21, 2010, 01:29:52 AM

I do know that this forum is running slower than my Ford Escort I had when I got out of the Army as well as keeping my sites from being hacked into and shut down for a week

Sorry, but I still don't believe that every competitor is being compensated for airfare and travel.  Maybe some competitors but not all if any at all.

Here you are lying again.  You were in the ROTC you said.  And tell everyone why you got kicked out of that.  They will love that one.  By the way, kill yourself
Title: Re: Do Pros have to pay for hotel at shows?
Post by: Gino30 on July 21, 2010, 05:21:11 AM
LOL, omfg seriously? Are you for real or just making this shit up? Sweet Jesus poor negro, what things you must've suffered in your childhood to have such pathetic words drivel out of your fingers, warped mind and flabby body.

Ok Vince, 33% eh, take 24% and we call you 'correct'.

Stupid fucking insect.

Even cockroaches get more love

Vince needs to stop beathing, period.......or perhaps go to that alphamale forum......ouch