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Title: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Nails on July 22, 2010, 12:19:32 PM
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Back in the 1980s, they were the biggest stars in Hollywood, both in terms of box-office receipts and bicep circumference. But the glory days of the brawny action heroes -- Stallone, Schwarzenegger, Van Damme, and the like -- eventually faded. In their place, a new breed of '90s star took over: younger, leaner, and nowhere near as macho. By decade's end, Keanu Reeves was a huge action star (shudder to think).

Where did it all go wrong? According to an interview with the Los Angeles Times, Sylvester Stallone puts the blame squarely on the caped shoulders of one comic book hero.

"It was the first 'Batman' movie," Stallone told the Times, in reference to the 1989 movie adaptation starring Michael Keaton as the Caped Crusader. He went on to say, "The action movies changed radically when it became possible to Velcro your muscles on," a clear dig at how the trim Keaton was encased in a sculpted Batsuit for the film. Stallone joked, "I wish I had thought of Velcro muscles myself... "I didn't have to go to the gym for all those years."

Stallone adds that the director Tim Burton's stylish take on the superhero story changed what audiences expected from an action flick: "It was the beginning of a new era. The visual took over. The special effects became more important than the single person. That was the beginning of the end."

It's ironic, then, that Stallone will be going to this year's San Diego Comic-Con -- the center for all things geeky -- to promote his upcoming movie, "The Expendables," which is a true throwback to the action hits of the '80s. In the film, Stallone (who also directed) leads a team of mercenaries to overthrow a corrupt South American dictator. It costars Jason Statham, Jet Li, Mickey Rourke, Terry Crews, and even Stallone's "Rocky IV" nemesis, Dolph Lundgren.

"The Expendables" is also notable for being the first time Stallone has appeared on-screen with fellow '80s icons Arnold Schwarzenegger and Bruce Willis. Stallone told the Times that each of them had their own on-screen persona which made set them apart from one another: "Arnold was king of the one-liners. Bruce was witty and talkative... And I was pretty silent." He added that their differences made it impossible for him to see himself in his friend's signature roles. "Arnold was relentless, like this perfect machine. People asked if I could have played the Terminator. Are you kidding? Not a chance, I never could have played the Terminator."

As it happens, Bruce Willis will be at Comic-Con this weekend promoting his upcoming movie "Red," which also is an action flick about an aging team of experts. It stars Oscar-winners Morgan Freeman and Helen Mirren.

Stallone will preview "The Expendables" at Comic-Con on Thursday, and the movie will muscle its way into movie theaters on August 13.
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on July 22, 2010, 01:14:59 PM
"It was the first 'Batman' movie," Stallone told the Times, in reference to the 1989 movie adaptation...

Wrong. Fuck you Sylvester.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: _bruce_ on July 22, 2010, 01:19:26 PM
The batman begins dude has a very solid build if I remember correctly.
Other than that movie Batman is gay as hell.
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 22, 2010, 01:23:02 PM
Wrong. Fuck you Sylvester.  :D :D :D


LOL....Stallone sounding like a bitter penis.

Reminds me of an interview with Jon BonJovi  one time...when asked about the huge popularity of grunge...and how it killed Hair Metal, he shot back..."i guess it's OK if you like music that isn't even in tune...I don't get it"...you could see how pissed he was that he wasn't "hot" anymore....out with the old, in with the new, bitch  :D
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: andreisdaman on July 22, 2010, 03:17:21 PM
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Back in the 1980s, they were the biggest stars in Hollywood, both in terms of box-office receipts and bicep circumference. But the glory days of the brawny action heroes -- Stallone, Schwarzenegger, Van Damme, and the like -- eventually faded. In their place, a new breed of '90s star took over: younger, leaner, and nowhere near as macho. By decade's end, Keanu Reeves was a huge action star (shudder to think).

Where did it all go wrong? According to an interview with the Los Angeles Times, Sylvester Stallone puts the blame squarely on the caped shoulders of one comic book hero.

"It was the first 'Batman' movie," Stallone told the Times, in reference to the 1989 movie adaptation starring Michael Keaton as the Caped Crusader. He went on to say, "The action movies changed radically when it became possible to Velcro your muscles on," a clear dig at how the trim Keaton was encased in a sculpted Batsuit for the film. Stallone joked, "I wish I had thought of Velcro muscles myself... "I didn't have to go to the gym for all those years."

Stallone adds that the director Tim Burton's stylish take on the superhero story changed what audiences expected from an action flick: "It was the beginning of a new era. The visual took over. The special effects became more important than the single person. That was the beginning of the end."

It's ironic, then, that Stallone will be going to this year's San Diego Comic-Con -- the center for all things geeky -- to promote his upcoming movie, "The Expendables," which is a true throwback to the action hits of the '80s. In the film, Stallone (who also directed) leads a team of mercenaries to overthrow a corrupt South American dictator. It costars Jason Statham, Jet Li, Mickey Rourke, Terry Crews, and even Stallone's "Rocky IV" nemesis, Dolph Lundgren.

"The Expendables" is also notable for being the first time Stallone has appeared on-screen with fellow '80s icons Arnold Schwarzenegger and Bruce Willis. Stallone told the Times that each of them had their own on-screen persona which made set them apart from one another: "Arnold was king of the one-liners. Bruce was witty and talkative... And I was pretty silent." He added that their differences made it impossible for him to see himself in his friend's signature roles. "Arnold was relentless, like this perfect machine. People asked if I could have played the Terminator. Are you kidding? Not a chance, I never could have played the Terminator."

As it happens, Bruce Willis will be at Comic-Con this weekend promoting his upcoming movie "Red," which also is an action flick about an aging team of experts. It stars Oscar-winners Morgan Freeman and Helen Mirren.

Stallone will preview "The Expendables" at Comic-Con on Thursday, and the movie will muscle its way into movie theaters on August 13.

Stallone may have a point...good theory...Actually I think that the action movies started becoming really lame...."The Last Action Hero" with Arnold was really bad and started his long decline....Stallone started to lose it with a string of bad movies like "Over the Top" about arm wrestling.....and "Stop or my Mom will Shoot"...and people got tirred of Bruce Willis playing himself in every movie....and then he made Hudson Hawk..WOW....
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: ThaRealist on July 22, 2010, 03:35:34 PM
Sly has a point about not having to actually have muscle to be an action star anymore....I mean look how the media went into a craze about how "ripped" and "muscular" Toby McGwire got for Spiderman....You gotta be kidding me these 12 yearold boys they call actions stars these days
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Parker on July 22, 2010, 03:43:02 PM
Funny how the dude in the Flash tv show looked better in his suit than Sly ever did.
Still to this day, I think that show did the best in showing a "superhero" in real life settings.
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on July 22, 2010, 04:04:29 PM
Batman was a good movie, it had more character development than Sly's movies combined.
It was more of a 'film noir' than a down and dirty action movie. It think sly is being a sour grape.
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: DK II on July 22, 2010, 04:11:39 PM
Sly has a point about not having to actually have muscle to be an action star anymore....I mean look how the media went into a craze about how "ripped" and "muscular" Toby McGwire got for Spiderman....You gotta be kidding me these 12 yearold boys they call actions stars these days

ahahaaha, don't forget that people here on getbig will claim that he needed steroids to get this physique.  ::)
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Parker on July 22, 2010, 04:17:01 PM
Batman was a good movie, it had more character development than Sly's movies combined.
It was more of a 'film noir' than a down and dirty action movie. It think sly is being a sour grape.
True, Batman has always been dark, and it captured that. Plus, Bruce Wayne is Billioniare businessman, head of Wayne Enterprises, so he's always wearing a suit, he has to blend in with society. It was only recently, I'd say the early 70s, did superheros have huge muscles, most were portrayed as being in shape. And let's face it, Sly and Arnold presented physiques that they themselves needed a little "boost" to obtain, and the characters that they played "Predators", and "Rambo", wouldn't look like that in real life, because it would take too much time and effort. Which in itself is not realistic.
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Mr.1derful on July 22, 2010, 05:06:58 PM
I don't believe Sly's comments are expressed with bitterness, but rather, a matter of personal opinion.  I would have thought that his comments would have been directed more so at films with the predilection to overcompensate with CGI, however.  Nowadays, CGI is almost used as a crutch of sorts.  Rather than being an adjunct, CGI has become a gimmick to compensate for a lack of character and plot development.  It's easy to have superheros now, when you can simply generate the muscles and action scenes needed via CGI.
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Croatch on July 22, 2010, 05:34:18 PM
"It was the first 'Batman' movie," Stallone told the Times, in reference to the 1989 movie adaptation starring Michael Keaton as the Caped Crusader. He went on to say, "The action movies changed radically when it became possible to Velcro your muscles on," a clear dig at how the trim Keaton was encased in a sculpted Batsuit for the film. Stallone joked, "I wish I had thought of Velcro muscles myself... "I didn't have to go to the gym for all those years."
Didn't Stallone need steroids and recently GH to obtain a 160lbs physique?  You must be joking with this comment.  Do it without drugs, or it doesn't count...everyone knows this and no, nobody respects drug gains outside getbig.
Nothing but respect for Stallone, wrecking Hollywood pussy from before I was born.  Writing a great script with "Rocky" and not selling out, in order to star in it.  Impressive guy for sure.
But, when it comes to lifting, I give him none. ;)
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Shockwave on July 22, 2010, 06:18:14 PM
Didn't Stallone need steroids and recently GH to obtain a 160lbs physique?  You must be joking with this comment.  Do it without drugs, or it doesn't count...everyone knows this and no, nobody respects drug gains outside getbig.
Nothing but respect for Stallone, wrecking Hollywood pussy from before I was born.  Writing a great script with "Rocky" and not selling out, in order to star in it.  Impressive guy for sure.
But, when it comes to lifting, I give him none. ;)
Good god man, get some new material. Seriously this must be your 5,000 post to the tune of "Do it without drugs, or your a wuss".
Ive never seen anyone so obsessed with what others do.

Seriously man, as soon as you post people just stop reading, its not like anyone actually reads your posts anymore, they see "All drugs" and there brain signs off. Think of it like when you read one of coachs posts about politics, same shit.

What happened to the funny Moaster Maker Croatch, that guy whos posts were entertaining and people actually like reading, not this bitter man pissed cause he used steroids a long time ago and they didnt do shit for him, now he feels the need to bash them constantly?

bing back the real Croatch, the guy posting the DD's in his face, the Moaster Maker vids, and generally not an obnoxious holier than thou, unoriginal stale asshole of a man
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: BIG ACH on July 22, 2010, 07:04:08 PM
Funny how the dude in the Flash tv show looked better in his suit than Sly ever did.
Still to this day, I think that show did the best in showing a "superhero" in real life settings.

Oh man I used to love that show!! and they eventually released a made for TV movie, sorta spun off from the series!  Fucking loved The Flash

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Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: tu_holmes on July 22, 2010, 07:09:35 PM
The flash was absolutely fantastic!

They could totally reboot it today and it would do well.

It's initial problem was that each episode cost 1 Million dollars to produce because of the cost of the speed special effects at the time... Now it wouldn't be jack to do.

Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Earl1972 on July 22, 2010, 07:48:38 PM
Batman was a good movie, it had more character development than Sly's movies combined.
It was more of a 'film noir' than a down and dirty action movie. It think sly is being a sour grape.

he wrote rocky, which won oscars

michael keaton had nothing to do with the character development in batman a story told a million times in movies, comics, and tv

and he gave his opinion and viewpoint, no sour grapes for a guy with more fame and money than michael keaton ::)

E
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Montague on July 22, 2010, 07:54:44 PM
The flash was absolutely fantastic!

They could totally reboot it today and it would do well.

It's initial problem was that each episode cost 1 Million dollars to produce because of the cost of the speed special effects at the time... Now it wouldn't be jack to do.




The Flash was a great series.
The effects were complex and production costs were ridiculous for that time.

I remember reading that the suit they used contained padded muscle, but “less than the Bat-suit,” which was a dig at Keaton and a nod to the fact that John Wesley Shipp actually had some muscularity.
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: ThaRealist on July 22, 2010, 08:52:07 PM
he wrote rocky, which won oscars

michael keaton had nothing to do with the character development in batman a story told a million times in movies, comics, and tv

and he gave his opinion and viewpoint, no sour grapes for a guy with more fame and money than michael keaton ::)

E

Not just Rocky, but First Blood....Any of these bitchboys that grew up in the 80's or 90's were hoping for a character that made them feel good about themselves....IMO The new Batman Begins with Christian Bale ruled and showed a physically fit man other than the panty waste Michelle Keaton, Georgia Cuntly and Talshire Kiladick....

Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 23, 2010, 07:29:08 AM

LOL....Stallone sounding like a bitter penis.

Reminds me of an interview with Jon BonJovi  one time...when asked about the huge popularity of grunge...and how it killed Hair Metal, he shot back..."i guess it's OK if you like music that isn't even in tune...I don't get it"...you could see how pissed he was that he wasn't "hot" anymore....out with the old, in with the new, bitch  :D

Except... his tours are always in the top 3 grossing tours of the year..
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: DK II on July 23, 2010, 07:31:10 AM
Except... his tours are always in the top 3 grossing tours of the year..

Spot on, and what was that other music?? "Grunge"??

Died along with that fucking Junkie Cobain back in the nineties, and Bon Jovi will make his gay-ass-melodic-rock until he's 70.
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 23, 2010, 07:43:25 AM
Except... his tours are always in the top 3 grossing tours of the year..

Bon Jovi's statement was accurate though, half those grunge idiots don't know how to tune their guitars or basic chord theory
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: MORTALCOIL on July 23, 2010, 07:46:34 AM
Bon Jovi's statement was accurate though, half those grunge idiots don't know how to tune their guitars or basic chord theory

Yep, but basic chord theory is not enough to make good music.Unless you enjoy this:

Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 23, 2010, 08:13:40 AM
Spot on, and what was that other music?? "Grunge"??

Died along with that fucking Junkie Cobain back in the nineties, and Bon Jovi will make his gay-ass-melodic-rock until he's 70.

I was reading an article in one of those metro sexual type magazines that someone must have left around the office, think it was GQ or something like that where Bon Jovi was interviewed. I was kind of put off reading about his attitude which was basically, "I don't really care anymore about touring, it's part of the job. I go out there and do my thing and either they like it or they don't" (Paraphrasing). Then I got to the part where he talks about being at this party, and he met the wife of a famous football quarterback who has a son that was born with some tragic desease.. how she was telling him that her and her husband have to listen to people go on and on about football, and how great he was and this and that.. and all they can think about is thier son, and how can they help him more, and how can they raise awareness and how can they increase funding for research, and he went on to say how that 10 minute conversation had such an impact on him that he doesnt take himself too seriously and what he does is so small and trivial in the scheme of things.. I thought it was pretty cool..
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: andreisdaman on July 23, 2010, 08:35:14 AM

The Flash was a great series.
The effects were complex and production costs were ridiculous for that time.

I remember reading that the suit they used contained padded muscle, but “less than the Bat-suit,” which was a dig at Keaton and a nod to the fact that John Wesley Shipp actually had some muscularity.


I always thought that the FLASH was a great series as well....told some good stories..but some heroes don't translate well to real life and Flash was kinda like that...the suit was great though
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: K-1 on July 23, 2010, 08:52:34 AM
The first Batman and Batman returns are classics along with Rambo and Rocky series.

Sly just upset b/c Batman came along,took it to another level and phased his sh*t out.
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 23, 2010, 08:56:16 AM
I always thought that the FLASH was a great series as well....told some good stories..but some heroes don't translate well to real life and Flash was kinda like that...the suit was great though

That was probably one of the best shows ever produced!
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: noworries on July 23, 2010, 09:18:38 AM
Robin was a great character.  I worked with both Adam West and Burt Ward (more with Burt).  We did an event for the National Association of Little League (something like that).  Burt and Adam were charging the kids $20 for an autograph (might have been $10).  Everything was money to them.  At the time they were both pretty wealthy.  Adam was a real estate developer in Utah and Burt had a business in LA.  I remember Burt telling me they nothing making Batman (les than $1000 a week).  It was the appearances and other sponsorships they got.  He told me Goodyear was hiss biggest endorsement he ever had.  On a side ntoe: I lived in Kona, Hawaii from 2003 to 2007.  There is a Safeway market there I went to alot.  One fo the cashier girls was not bad looking but kinda weird.  We started talking more and more.  One day she asked me where I grew up.  And then he said he grew up in Malibu.  She started telling me some of the people she knew.  It ended up she was Adam West's daughter.  Long story short, I gave her a photo of me and Adam and Burt to give to her dad to sign.  Well it ended up she quit working at Safeway and I never saw her again. My only Batman tie-in beside Robin.   Okay, that was my "thread relation story"
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 23, 2010, 09:21:30 AM
They wanted an actor to play Batman more than an athlete specifically , Bob Kane the creator of Batman said Keaton wasn't his ideal for the role because he was so lean and only 5'10" , Batman is in the comics was 6'2" athletic , Kane would have been happy with Bale and the produces would have been too because he's a real actor as well

Stallone sorta has a point , I think that and the combo of making woman the lead in action movies sorta put a damper on the male dominated role , a lot of movies post 80s action is very female hero action orientated but a few guys have tried like Vin Diesel and The Rock and Daniel Craig as Bond

Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: andreisdaman on July 23, 2010, 09:38:10 AM
They wanted an actor to play Batman more than an athlete specifically , Bob Kane the creator of Batman said Keaton wasn't his ideal for the role because he was so lean and only 5'10" , Batman is in the comics was 6'2" athletic , Kane would have been happy with Bale and the produces would have been too because he's a real actor as well

Stallone sorta has a point , I think that and the combo of making woman the lead in action movies sorta put a damper on the male dominated role , a lot of movies post 80s action is very female hero action orientated but a few guys have tried like Vin Diesel and The Rock and Daniel Craig as Bond



Actually you are right-on about Bob Kane..He wanted Robert Wagner (when he was younger)...in the role of Batman...he felt that Wagner was more suave and would be good as Bruce Wayne
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: brooklynbruiser on July 23, 2010, 09:55:24 AM
Shuddup, Sly, and make movies.

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Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on July 23, 2010, 11:52:01 AM

   ;)

  Coming soon.

  F*ck the Riddler. I want BANE.

Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Jaime on July 23, 2010, 12:01:32 PM
I think the decline was based on the fact that more often than not the films were awful. If Hollywood actually casted the right guy for the job instead of famous names, then 5,7 roided to the eyeballs 150 lb stallone isn't going to beat out a 210lb 6'2 athletic young actor is he. Seems like sour grapes that the industry moved on. I respect what he did with Rocky, writing it himself and pushing through getting funding and starring, but the guy is hardly laurence Olivier is he. He should be thankfull that someone of his talents ever found a market in the first place, the same can be said of 90% of action stars.
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Heywood on July 23, 2010, 12:04:49 PM
Stallone should blame his own very limited acting skills.  That's why he needs a travelbag full of HGH to play a role.

Keaton is a comedian, but can still out-act Sly by far.

Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Montague on July 23, 2010, 12:08:58 PM
Comic nerds were pissed & protested the decision to cast comedian Keaton.
They thought it was going to be another campy parody like the 60’s series.

WB was forced to release an extended trailer to test audiences, which got a standing ovation in some theaters.


Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Camel Jockey on July 23, 2010, 03:27:51 PM
Christian Bale is a real actor with talent.

Stallone is mad is because he is too old and doesn't have the level of talent to play a real character with depth. He never has, that's why he's always played a sauced up hero. Nothing wrong with that either, as movies like the Rocky series are timeless classics.
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Parker on July 23, 2010, 03:35:34 PM
The flash was absolutely fantastic!

They could totally reboot it today and it would do well.

It's initial problem was that each episode cost 1 Million dollars to produce because of the cost of the speed special effects at the time... Now it wouldn't be jack to do.


Damn 1 mil a episode, back then? Damn, no wonder it was cancelled, or were there other reasons. I remember the episode of him vibrating thru a wall. And I like how they had him eating everything in sight, because his metabolism was so fast.
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: tu_holmes on July 23, 2010, 04:03:20 PM
Damn 1 mil a episode, back then? Damn, no wonder it was cancelled, or were there other reasons. I remember the episode of him vibrating thru a wall. And I like how they had him eating everything in sight, because his metabolism was so fast.

Nope... a million bucks.

I remember reading it in TVguide or something.

For it to stay viable it would have had to win the timeslot every week by a ridiculous amount to warrant the advertising dollars to pay for it, but it just didn't make it.

Like I said, you could do it today for nothing... Hell, they use the same shit almost every week on Smallville on the WB.
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Parker on July 23, 2010, 04:13:31 PM
Nope... a million bucks.

I remember reading it in TVguide or something.

For it to stay viable it would have had to win the timeslot every week by a ridiculous amount to warrant the advertising dollars to pay for it, but it just didn't make it.

Like I said, you could do it today for nothing... Hell, they use the same shit almost every week on Smallville on the WB.
They should have moved it to a diff timeslot or day.

Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Nails on July 23, 2010, 05:13:15 PM
Dolph Lundgren single-handedly butchered 2 80's Icons and Kid heros


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and

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Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Lundgren on July 23, 2010, 05:41:02 PM
Dolph Lundgren single-handedly butchered 2 80's Icons and Kid heros


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(http://old.he-man.org/news_images/wallpaper/He-Man/heman_1280_1024.jpg)

and

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/elvis1976/punisher_lobby_card_1.jpg)

(http://api.ning.com/files/DbOy5-kPl3uhNFGRTkV5lZuZ0dOaUbJ7ZeOsM*sux6ZI-6ja0DPQdWMM40Ly50VulAE-phH6P-EiXt1ArSUlCA4ICnTzUX1K/punisher_war_zone_cover_001.jpg)
;D
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 23, 2010, 05:52:29 PM
Dolph Lundgren single-handedly butchered 2 80's Icons and Kid heros




Oh boy I forgot about those gems , the Punisher without a skull shirt at bare minimum  ::) I actually enjoyed that Punisher movie more than the subsequent ones for some odd reason , although I think the one with Ray Stevenson looked like the comic book character the most

Dolph talked about the He-man movie and how they threw a bunch of money his way and he thought it would be foolish to turn it down , I mean how much artistic integrity is he going to have? it's not like he was a legitimate actor and to refuse that kinda money is dumb.

Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: BIG ACH on July 23, 2010, 11:20:03 PM
Shuddup, Sly, and make movies.

(http://dietrichthrall.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/judge_dredd.jpg)

I didn't break the law.... I AM THE LAW!
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Parker on July 23, 2010, 11:36:57 PM
Oh boy I forgot about those gems , the Punisher without a skull shirt at bare minimum  ::) I actually enjoyed that Punisher movie more than the subsequent ones for some odd reason , although I think the one with Ray Stevenson looked like the comic book character the most

Dolph talked about the He-man movie and how they threw a bunch of money his way and he thought it would be foolish to turn it down , I mean how much artistic integrity is he going to have? it's not like he was a legitimate actor and to refuse that kinda money is dumb.


THey should have just made the He-Man movie a cartoon movie, like Transformers and Gi Joe, and called it a day.
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 24, 2010, 05:16:12 AM
THey should have just made the He-Man movie a cartoon movie, like Transformers and Gi Joe, and called it a day.

How about Street Fighter with Van Damme  :-X   :-X

Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: clued-up on July 24, 2010, 06:12:46 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_eg04Zz3CERw/R50HI8-XoUI/AAAAAAAAADk/ESrnsBHMo0k/s400/18447765.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eg04Zz3CERw/R50HIs-XoTI/AAAAAAAAADc/Gy1VUGfZU1k/s400/18447764.jpg)

(http://www.blade-empire.com/Master_Cutlery/Rambo_III_Image.jpg)

(http://builtreport.com/stallone/038.jpg)
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: DK II on July 24, 2010, 09:40:03 PM
Q: So did you ever use steroids to build yourself up?
A: In 1987, when I was making Rambo III, I used to take an amino acid that's nearly as strong as steroids. It's about 15 times more powerful than the typical amino acid, but give none of the raw rage - the anger - that comes with steroids. All steroids do is make you a cumbersome, apelike goon.


More BS here:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jaimefiler2.htm
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: ThaRealist on July 24, 2010, 09:46:19 PM
Q: So did you ever use steroids to build yourself up?
A: In 1987, when I was making Rambo III, I used to take an amino acid that's nearly as strong as steroids. It's about 15 times more powerful than the typical amino acid, but give none of the raw rage - the anger - that comes with steroids. All steroids do is make you a cumbersome, apelike goon.


More BS here:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jaimefiler2.htm

Amino Anadrol lol
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Heywood on July 24, 2010, 10:31:24 PM
Q: So did you ever use steroids to build yourself up?
A: In 1987, when I was making Rambo III, I used to take an amino acid that's nearly as strong as steroids. It's about 15 times more powerful than the typical amino acid, but give none of the raw rage - the anger - that comes with steroids. All steroids do is make you a cumbersome, apelike goon.


More BS here:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jaimefiler2.htm


My belief is that Stallone didn't come clean about his drug use until after that little episode in the Australian airport 3 years ago.  I believe the only thing he admitted to was "protein pudding," until he was busted.

If I'm incorrect, please let me know.  
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: DK II on July 24, 2010, 11:20:27 PM

My belief is that Stallone didn't come clean about his drug use until after that little episode in the Australian airport 3 years ago.  I believe the only thing he admitted to was "protein pudding," until he was busted.

If I'm incorrect, please let me know.  


You're correct on this one, but he still hasn't admitted to earlier steroid use. He only admits that he's taking it now.

But hey come on, he's been training with Franco Columbu in the 80s, there's no way he could have been natural. And i don't blame him as well, Stallone has really always worked his ass off, and if you think about it, he always brought a better body than Arnold to his top movies.

Arnold was bigger and all, but in the movies he had always lost some weight and was always smooth, compared to his BB days.

Stallone on the other hand was ripped in some movies, and i would believe that staying in this shape during the filming of a whole movie, doing action scenes and all kind of stuff is actually a lot harder than just keeping the body for a weekend for a BB show.

Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Heywood on July 25, 2010, 02:45:13 AM
You're correct on this one, but he still hasn't admitted to earlier steroid use. He only admits that he's taking it now.

But hey come on, he's been training with Franco Columbu in the 80s, there's no way he could have been natural. And i don't blame him as well, Stallone has really always worked his ass off, and if you think about it, he always brought a better body than Arnold to his top movies.

Arnold was bigger and all, but in the movies he had always lost some weight and was always smooth, compared to his BB days.

Stallone on the other hand was ripped in some movies, and i would believe that staying in this shape during the filming of a whole movie, doing action scenes and all kind of stuff is actually a lot harder than just keeping the body for a weekend for a BB show.




That's not the point.  The guy has been on juice, probably since Rock 2.

Yeah, he trains hard and diets hard.  BFD.....he's still been on juice.  And that makes a big difference.  And if it didn't make any difference, then why lie about it?

Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: DK II on July 25, 2010, 04:52:12 AM

That's not the point.  The guy has been on juice, probably since Rock 2.

Yeah, he trains hard and diets hard.  BFD.....he's still been on juice.  And that makes a big difference.  And if it didn't make any difference, then why lie about it?



Did i say sth different?
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Tapeworm on July 25, 2010, 05:03:31 AM
Michael Keaton's plastic muscle suit was an embarrassment.  Mr. Mom is not a superhero no matter how raspy he makes his voice.
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: BIG ACH on July 27, 2010, 08:21:43 AM
For those who care, I was at Best Buy yesterday and I see that they are selling, "The Flash:  Complete Series" DVD set, for $48

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Flash%3A+Complete+Series+(6pc)+-+Subtitle+-+DVD/7615057.p?id=1500196&skuId=7615057&st=The Flash Complete Series&lp=1&cp=1 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Flash%3A+Complete+Series+(6pc)+-+Subtitle+-+DVD/7615057.p?id=1500196&skuId=7615057&st=The Flash Complete Series&lp=1&cp=1)
(http://www.serialsquadron.com/superhero/flash/files/page80_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: dragonfist on July 27, 2010, 09:41:32 AM
Q: So did you ever use steroids to build yourself up?
A: In 1987, when I was making Rambo III, I used to take an amino acid that's nearly as strong as steroids. It's about 15 times more powerful than the typical amino acid, but give none of the raw rage - the anger - that comes with steroids. All steroids do is make you a cumbersome, apelike goon.


More BS here:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jaimefiler2.htm

GH?
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: nder98 on July 27, 2010, 09:47:36 AM
Oh man I used to love that show!! and they eventually released a made for TV movie, sorta spun off from the series!  Fucking loved The Flash

(http://speedforce.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/flashtv.jpg)

I was so pissed when they took it off the air.
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: sixsixinthemix on July 27, 2010, 10:24:16 AM
THAT BATMAN MOVIE WAS PRETTY BAD.  hE SHOULD ALSO MENTION THE VAGINALIZATION FO THE MOVIES WHERE FORCED WOMEN STARS ARE THROWN AROUND AND MAN HATING IS SETTING IN.
Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: Heywood on July 27, 2010, 04:08:33 PM
How can Michael Keaton take business away from Stallone?  I don't get it.  Did Keaton hypnotize the audience?

Title: Re: Sylvester Stallone Blames 'Batman' for Decline of '80s Action Heroes
Post by: ThaRealist on July 27, 2010, 05:58:33 PM
How can Michael Keaton take business away from Stallone?  I don't get it.  Did Keaton hypnotize the audience?



It had a lot to do with the director....