Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: GetItOnNY on July 30, 2010, 05:17:05 PM
-
This years Mr USA is going to be a hard show to win this year.You would think with the economy being a lil sluggish it would lower the amount of competitors.Intead its increased greatly.
The superheavyweight class is crazy.You got Blair Mone back, Dustry Hnashaw fresh off his victory at the JR'S ,Robert Burneika, Steve Kuclo, who looks good,then you got Jaon HUH, 5'7" 257lbs, holy shit !!!!I wouldnt want to be in thaty class.The only way to win that class is to be 250 plus lbs.
I have seen all these guys in person and there are all enormous.Robert Burneika and Blair Mone both look like cartoon character in person.They are wider then they are tall.
I heard Dusty Hanshaw weighed over 260lbs.
Who ever wins this show would definatly make a great pro, and even have a good pro career.I think just for fun they should let the winner compete at the Mr Olympia.I know the few guys I metioned are as big as most pro's, and better conditioned then Melvin Anthony, and Jay 06.
-
I heard a rumor that you took Robert Burneika up the ass with Billy Smith and Jim Quinn watching at Golds Gym Venice?
-
Burnieka looks like pooh and looked soft as usual last night. You forgot to mention Keith Williams and the probably best conditioned guy in the class, Chad Lacount. Those 2 could easily be first and second.
-
NZ, I thought we were cool.I know 'ewe' like to help the lil bo peep over the fence.
For the record, Robert Burneika worked with Dennis Wolfe for this show.So I have no idea how he will look or do.It is totally out of my hands.I helped out Robert Last year, this year, he started training with Dennis Wolfe??????? Who works with Chad, and has bombed his last 2 shows.SO, dont blame me if he is off.
NZ, this is for "ewe"
-
Sorry, Getiton, but I didn't see that you had already started this USA post so I started another one to give a half-assed report on this evening's men's prejudging.
I'll say once again that the contestants looked a hell of a lot better than how they appeared in the weigh in photos that were posted on Flexonline.com, but no one contestant stood out as the overall winner. And even attempting to forecast the wt class winners proved somewhat difficult.
And this seemed to be the general consensus among the fans I spoke with once the prejudging concluded...... No single contestant stood out among the others, so this year the overall winner is still a mystery as far as most of us were concerned.
I hope to post a more intelligent update tomorrow night if I get back at a reasonable hour.
This contest is setting a world wide record for the number of entries... a total of approximately 550.
Who says competitive bodybuilding is dead?
-
For the record, Robert Burneika worked with Dennis Wolfe for this show.So I have no idea how he will look or do.It is totally out of my hands.I helped out Robert Last year, this year, he started training with Dennis Wolfe??????? Who works with Chad, and has bombed his last 2 shows.SO, dont blame me if he is off.
Why did he jump ship ?
-
WTF is the "Mr. USA" that hasn't been used since the late 70's or *80's I believe.
-
True, Coach! But you and I and the rest of these real GetBiggers know what the hell he meant.
I bet ya that you even know the last contenda who actually won the Mr USA.
-
Willgrant, I have no idea why Robert decided to work with Dennis Wolfe.I think he is doing it for publicity, or to try to get signed with BSN.I told Robert to be careful training with Dennis Wolfe because Dennis bombed his last 2-3 contests.I look at it this way, if you got a guru your working with and he got you from 4 th place to 2nd and brought your contest weight from 241lbs to 254 lbs from the USA to Nationals 4 months later.You had you all time best condition.I would stick with that guru.
I cant get into Roberts head.All I know is he looked good at this years USA, but he looked 25% better at last years Nationals.Like I aid before, Dennis works with Chad, and Chad uses the cookie cutter approach.Thats why he is either hit or miss.
I wish Robert the best of luck, he is a great atlhete, but I think Jason Huh will beat him imo.Jason is bigger, harder, and fuller.Robert looks flatJason looks full, tight, and his glutes are in
-
Willgrant, I have no idea why Robert decided to work with Dennis Wolfe.I think he is doing it for publicity, or to try to get signed with BSN.I told Robert to be careful training with Dennis Wolfe because Dennis bombed his last 2-3 contests.I look at it this way, if you got a guru your working with and he got you from 4 th place to 2nd and brought your contest weight from 241lbs to 254 lbs from the USA to Nationals 4 months later.You had you all time best condition.I would stick with that guru.
I cant get into Roberts head.All I know is he looked good at this years USA, but he looked 25% better at last years Nationals.Like I aid before, Dennis works with Chad, and Chad uses the cookie cutter approach.Thats why he is either hit or miss.
I wish Robert the best of luck, he is a great atlhete, but I think Jason Huh will beat him imo.Jason is bigger, harder, and fuller.Robert looks flatJason looks full, tight, and his glutes are in
haha, look at the butt-sore little woman, pissing and moaning over the fact that he "cant get into roberts head"
a woman scorned..............no one cares about your lame fucking threads
-
everyone should work with George Farah and Milos Sarcev
Peter Trenz if you're in Europe
-
Stunt, Look for me tonight...I'll wear a yellow and brown throwback Dave Winfield Jersey. I'll be in row H and of course, if you didn't know already I'm black.
-
Stunt, Look for me tonight...I'll wear a yellow and brown throwback Dave Winfield Sammie Sosa Jersey. I'll be in row H and of course, if you didn't know already I'm black've got bleach cream at home.
;D
-
Probably not nor do I really care. LoL!
-
Unsung, your an idiot.!!! Listen I helped Robert last year, he looked his all time best.This year he wanted to train with Wolfe.To be honest with you, I dont like working with bodybuilders.For many reasons.One they dont listen, and two, they will do something that you tell them not to do.Totally mess up there contest prep, then blame it on you.Even though, they are the ones who fu$% up.With bodybuilders, you have to take reason and accountability out of the equation.
I would rather work with pro athletes, like Baseball players, Football Players, and Fighters.They will cut you a check right then and there without blinking an eye, and they listen to what you say.
They respect your time, and dont jerk you around.Everything is cut and dry.
They pay $ they dont want $
-
You might want to think twice about fighters cutting you a check right away, hahaha!
-
Unsung, your an idiot.!!!
I stopped reading here. :)
-
you have to take reason and accountability out of the equation.
you stole that line from jack nicholson's character in "as good as it gets"!
-
Willgrant, I have no idea why Robert decided to work with Dennis Wolfe.I think he is doing it for publicity, or to try to get signed with BSN.I told Robert to be careful training with Dennis Wolfe because Dennis bombed his last 2-3 contests.I look at it this way, if you got a guru your working with and he got you from 4 th place to 2nd and brought your contest weight from 241lbs to 254 lbs from the USA to Nationals 4 months later.You had you all time best condition.I would stick with that guru.
I cant get into Roberts head.All I know is he looked good at this years USA, but he looked 25% better at last years Nationals.Like I aid before, Dennis works with Chad, and Chad uses the cookie cutter approach.Thats why he is either hit or miss.
I wish Robert the best of luck, he is a great atlhete, but I think Jason Huh will beat him imo.Jason is bigger, harder, and fuller.Robert looks flatJason looks full, tight, and his glutes are in
I wouldn't be braggin about Robert. He;s always smooth and condition's poor and doesn't make any trainer look good who is responsible for his conditioning.
-
WTF is the "Mr. USA" that hasn't been used since the late 70's or *80's I believe.
2010 NPC USA
2010 NPC Mr.& Miss. USA ;D
-
Unsung, your an idiot.!!! Listen I helped Robert last year, he looked his all time best.This year he wanted to train with Wolfe.To be honest with you, I dont like working with bodybuilders.For many reasons.One they dont listen, and two, they will do something that you tell them not to do.Totally mess up there contest prep, then blame it on you.Even though, they are the ones who fu$% up.With bodybuilders, you have to take reason and accountability out of the equation.
I would rather work with pro athletes, like Baseball players, Football Players, and Fighters.They will cut you a check right then and there without blinking an eye, and they listen to what you say.
They respect your time, and dont jerk you around.Everything is cut and dry.
They pay $ they dont want $
Dude, melt a little more.
Burneika Burneika Burneika STILL needs to drop 7-8 lbs, and drastically improve his abs (depth and thickness) and shoulders to be a legit pro. Otherwise he looks very good.
-
Oh, and hamstrings. He should start training those. At all.
-
Oh, and hamstrings. He should start training those. At all.
He could drop a brick, he still sucks like Pam on Tommy's cock.
-
i dont get it, why isnt he in shape..............he doesnt work...........he doesnt have to do shit but eat sleep train ...........its the only thing he is responsible for in life
-
i dont get it, why isnt he in shape..............he doesnt work...........he doesnt have to do shit but eat sleep train ...........its the only thing he is responsible for in life
Laziness, they all are lazy, period. As it has been said, generation nothing-ness, have no drive, no hunger....
-
Laziness, they all are lazy, period. As it has been said, generation nothing-ness, have no drive, no hunger....
no, generation nothingness has no drive or hunger for ANYTHING other then selfish pursuits..........bodybu ilding is a selfish persuit, burninka is doing this for himself, he is the only one that matters, so i dont believe its a matter of him not being hungry ...........i think it has more to do with hsi bodymorphic disorder, and fear of coming in "small and flat".......apparently he worked with dennis wolf for this show (what qualifies dennis to do prep work, scince he cannot get himself straight is beyone me)
and dennis is always afraid of coming in small and flat as well...........plus robert looks like a drug pig to me..........probably going a little too heavy with the humalog late into the prep
-
Maybe Burneika hasn't improved because he doesn't use GetItOnNY's Swedish Waxy Maize and 12-stage time released protein anymore?
-
Van, what I think happened is Robert over trained for the how.When I talked to him last he was doing 2 workouts a day, and I know Dennis Wolfe is a high volume trainer.
When I worked with Robert last year, our workout were 30-45 minutes,once a day.
Brief but intence.
If you train 2 times a day for a show on low carbs, training twice a day, will stress the body so your body release cortisol.Thats why Robert looked flat and stringy.
If Robert would have trained less, and stayed away from Dennis Wolfe, he would have given Jason Huhb a run for his money.Trust Robert is huge, but he was so flatt and off at the USA he looked awful.
Compared to what he could look like.He has 24" arms and 22" calves, so if he was "on' Jason wouldnt have looked bigger then him
.I told Robert not to train or work with Dennis Wolfe, I said Dennis looked terrible the last 2 how he did.Wolfe like Burneika, is a great athlete, but they need to have some one Like Chris Aceto, or myself help them pull it together.Tiger Woods has a coach,Jason Giambi has a coach,all top athletes should have a "coach".A coach, doesnt mean they are week or dumb.A coach helps them think and guide them because its hard to diet, train and dial yourself in.
If Robert used Chris Aceto and not trained with Wolfe, he probably would have won the show
-
Van, what I think happened is Robert over trained for the how.When I talked to him last he was doing 2 workouts a day, and I know Dennis Wolfe is a high volume trainer.
When I worked with Robert last year, our workout were 30-45 minutes,once a day.
Brief but intence.
If you train 2 times a day for a show on low carbs, training twice a day, will stress the body so your body release cortisol.Thats why Robert looked flat and stringy.
If Robert would have trained less, and stayed away from Dennis Wolfe, he would have given Jason Huhb a run for his money.Trust Robert is huge, but he was so flatt and off at the USA he looked awful.
Compared to what he could look like.He has 24" arms and 22" calves, so if he was "on' Jason wouldnt have looked bigger then him
.I told Robert not to train or work with Dennis Wolfe, I said Dennis looked terrible the last 2 how he did.Wolfe like Burneika, is a great athlete, but they need to have some one Like Chris Aceto, or myself help them pull it together.Tiger Woods has a coach,Jason Giambi has a coach,all top athletes should have a "coach".A coach, doesnt mean they are week or dumb.A coach helps them think and guide them because its hard to diet, train and dial yourself in.
If Robert used Chris Aceto and not trained with Wolfe, he probably would have won the show
MMMmm, not enough to make that big of a difference if at all. How much "cardio" was he doing per day?
-
Burnieka says he makes more money guest posing then most pro's make with their sponsorship contract which is why he apparently held out being sponsored by anyone. ::)
-
mISS BRANDY
-
mISS BRANDY
Wow. Not attractive.
-
Man, she must've worked so hard for that show, spilling blood sweat and tears for that "elusive" bikini pro card :D
-
Man, she must've worked so hard for that show, spilling blood sweat and tears for that "elusive" bikini pro card :D
yes, what a competitor.............. she really laid it on the line during this competition............. ..she walked across stage and gave a fuck me but pump as hard as she could
a true champion.............rig ht up there with babe ruth and flo-jo ::) ::) ::)
i heard, and this is just a rumor, that in preparation for this contest she walked on the treadmill for 45 mins a day :o :o :o :o.........and cut carbs after dinner :o :o :o :o
the heart of a lion...
-
Coach, when your on low carbs, 100-150 grams of carbs per day it isnt smart to workout twice per day.Especially if your 260 plus lbs.This Know, I competed at 258lbs.
If your carbs are low, you should train more then 45 minutes, 1 hour max.If your training alone, you only really need 30-45 minutes of weights.Then let the diet and cardio, get you lean and hard.
Robert doesnt like to do cardio, and he didnt like to pose alot.
I think if Robert was to train once a day, like he did, with me,do 30 minutes of cardio in the morning before his first meal and 30 minutes after training.Then pse 15-30 minutes a day, he would be a pro without question.
-
Coach, when your on low carbs, 100-150 grams of carbs per day it isnt smart to workout twice per day.Especially if your 260 plus lbs.This Know, I competed at 258lbs.
If your carbs are low, you should train more then 45 minutes, 1 hour max.If your training alone, you only really need 30-45 minutes of weights.Then let the diet and cardio, get you lean and hard.
Robert doesnt like to do cardio, and he didnt like to pose alot.
I think if Robert was to train once a day, like he did, with me,do 30 minutes of cardio in the morning before his first meal and 30 minutes after training.Then pse 15-30 minutes a day, he would be a pro without question.
It's amazing some of these guys apparently do this for a living and can actually make enough money in the pro's to cover their juice habits yet are too lazy to put everything into it.
-
Van, what I think happened is Robert over trained for the how.When I talked to him last he was doing 2 workouts a day, and I know Dennis Wolfe is a high volume trainer.
When I worked with Robert last year, our workout were 30-45 minutes,once a day.
Brief but intence.
If you train 2 times a day for a show on low carbs, training twice a day, will stress the body so your body release cortisol.Thats why Robert looked flat and stringy.
If Robert would have trained less, and stayed away from Dennis Wolfe, he would have given Jason Huhb a run for his money.Trust Robert is huge, but he was so flatt and off at the USA he looked awful.
Compared to what he could look like.He has 24" arms and 22" calves, so if he was "on' Jason wouldnt have looked bigger then him
.I told Robert not to train or work with Dennis Wolfe, I said Dennis looked terrible the last 2 how he did.Wolfe like Burneika, is a great athlete, but they need to have some one Like Chris Aceto, or myself help them pull it together.Tiger Woods has a coach,Jason Giambi has a coach,all top athletes should have a "coach".A coach, doesnt mean they are week or dumb.A coach helps them think and guide them because its hard to diet, train and dial yourself in.
If Robert used Chris Aceto and not trained with Wolfe, he probably would have won the show
I thought you said he was training with Dennis Wolf. Is Dennis training twice a day also, instead of the Dorian inspired training he was doing a while back?
I don't know if cortisol is a factor for a chemical waste dump that is the modern bodybuilder. Sure, there's such a thing as too much training but I don't know if it's the cortisol per se. Wolf looked his best doing Milos' super-duper sets. Then he went to Dorian style, low volume training and he looks totally burned out. :D
-
It's amazing some of these guys apparently do this for a living and can actually make enough money in the pro's to cover their juice habits yet are too lazy to put everything into it.
Yep, if he wants to use the cortisol excuse fine but there also has to be an understanding that his insulin levels will be effected at the same time. The training alone cannot be the sole reason for cortisol levels to have that effect, true it will rise during training but since his metabolism is also raised at that time the corisol levels will in effect, drop. Unless this guy was under constant outside stress there is no way in hell his cortisol level during training would be that drastic especially since insulin levels drop during exercise. You know he was using insulin while getting ready for this show, the question should be how much, when and did he load on it before the show? But the fact remains (by looking at his training provided by getitonny) he's just flat out lazy. I'm sure he wasn't the only one on low carbs. Sorry GetItOnNy but this goes back to the trainer either that or he thought he knew better and didn't follow direction.
I don't train bodybuilders for a reason....they're lazy.
-
I thought you said he was training with Dennis Wolf. Is Dennis training twice a day also, instead of the Dorian inspired training he was doing a while back?
I don't know if cortisol is a factor for a chemical waste dump that is the modern bodybuilder. Sure, there's such a thing as too much training but I don't know if it's the cortisol per se. Wolf looked his best doing Milos' super-duper sets. Then he went to Dorian style, low volume training and he looks totally burned out. :D
It's laziness.
-
It's laziness.
coupled by the drug's do all the work,not a combo of diet,training,drug's,the other 2 thing's are an after thought nowaday's.