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Title: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2010, 02:06:24 PM
Surprising. 

Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Published September 01, 2010 | FoxNews.com

A majority of Minnesota voters don't want to see their governor in the Oval Office, according to a new poll.

A Minnesota Public Radio/Humphrey Institute poll released Wednesday showed that 53 percent of those surveyed would probably not vote for Republican Gov. Tim Pawlenty for president even if he won the 2012 presidential primary.

Further, they picked former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney as their preferred Republican nominee by 45-32 percent.

The poll showed that state voters are disappointed with Pawlenty's out-of-state campaigning. Fifty-four percent of the 750 likely voters surveyed disapprove of his national political activity.

The poll had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 5.3 percentage points.

Minnesota's governor fared better when pitted against former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin in 2012.

The poll gave Pawlenty a wide 59-24 percent lead over Palin among the Minnesota voters.
Pawlenty told MPR he considers Romney a frontrunner because of his name recognition and campaign organization.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/01/poll-minnesota-voters-dont-want-pawlenty-president/
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2010, 02:11:43 PM
I have a very bad feeling in my gut I am going to be forced into a Romney vote in 2012.  Dear God help us. 
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on September 01, 2010, 02:15:01 PM
I have a very bad feeling in my gut I am going to be forced into a Romney vote in 2012.  Dear God help us. 

at least he'll already be really familiar with the POS healthcare program he's inheriting... he wrote it.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2010, 02:17:34 PM
At this point, I'd take Romney over Obama.  I don't know much about Pawlenty, but I'd probably take him over Obama too.  I would have voted for Obama in 2012 if he came in and did a good job, but at this point I can't see any reasonable scenario where I'd vote for him. 
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2010, 02:17:50 PM
at least he'll already be really familiar with the POS healthcare program he's inheriting... he wrote it.

 ;D
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: chadstallion on September 01, 2010, 03:14:18 PM
I have a very bad feeling in my gut I am going to be forced into a Romney vote in 2012.  Dear God help us. 

lol; and I was just thinking "where's Mitt on all this; he is looking better and better for the GOP"
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2010, 03:16:24 PM
lol; and I was just thinking "where's Mitt on all this; he is looking better and better for the GOP"

I will hold my nose and vote for MYTH if I have to.  My first choice is Thune, Sarah, Christie, Jindle, Pawlenty, Myth, Huck 

I dont think RP is running.   
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on November 08, 2010, 04:52:20 PM
Tim Pawlenty Skipped Over by McCain in '08, Set Up for Top Billing in 2012
Published November 08, 2010 | FoxNews.com 

Oct. 29: Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, flanked by Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour and U.S. Senate candidate Pat Toomey, was a prolific campaigner for 2010 Republican congressional candidates.
When Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty took over the state's executive office in 2003, Minnesota was facing a more than $4 billion budget shortfall -- an amount that was nearly 20 percent of the state's budget.

Minnesota's left-leaning Legislature wanted to raise the state's gas, alcohol and income taxes, but Pawlenty refused. Instead, he scoured the books and cut the budget by $3 billion.

"I wish I could tell you it was all reaching across the aisle with some great bipartisan -- you know, charm and getting along. There was some of that. But a lot of it was just a hard slog. I mean we had shut downs, special sessions and lawsuits. I personally un-allotted $3 billion out of the budget myself," Pawlenty told Fox News.

Most of the cuts came from transportation, welfare and other state services. But it's that kind of effort that put Pawlenty on the Libertarian Cato Institute's list of only four governors in the country to earn a reputation as a "frugal budgeter." It’s also an achievement poll watchers are considering as they weigh the 2012 field for a Republican nominee to challenge President Obama.

Pawlenty had been on 2008 Republican presidential candidate John McCain's short list for a running mate, a position he ultimately lost to another up and coming governor, but being passed over hasn't hurt the governor.

While he hasn't explicitly said he is running for president in 2012, he looks to be making all the right moves, including hiring a staff in Iowa, the first caucus state and traveling frequently to Iowa and New Hampshire, the first primary state in the U.S. presidential election cycle.

“I haven't decided that yet. I'm certainly open to it but I haven't ruled it in or out,” he said.

If Pawlenty does run, he’s already put in place a strong network of potential supporters. Aside from campaigning alongside many candidates, Pawlenty has three separate political action committees that have donated to 160 candidates nationwide this election cycle.

Suggesting he is a different kind of change from President Obama and the Democratic leadership that came to power in 2008, Pawlenty said he also sees differently a number of foreign policy issues, including the situation in the Middle East and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“I've been to Iraq five times. I've been to Afghanistan three times. I've been all over the Middle East and been to China three times and led a number of other trade missions to other places around the world. But in my view, the number one issue facing the United States of America is making sure that America is secure and that we're respected around the world. President Obama sometimes seems to confuse that need and strategic objective with his desire to be popular,” he said.

Pawlenty said he also has concerns about the debt endangering America’s future. He said one item that should be on the chopping block is the new health care law

“ObamaCare is one of the worst pieces of legislation in the modern history of the country. It is going to increase-- healthcare spending, not decrease it. It's going to inflate the deficit, not decrease the deficit,” Pawlenty said.

But even if Pawlenty governs like the man to whom he wishes to be compared – Ronald Reagan – his star appeal and charisma are still wanting, a characteristic that Pawlenty acknowledges but says isn’t the most important factor in choosing a president.

“We've seen sizzle in the current president … There's a time in history where sometimes entertainment or, you know, drama is more important. There's other times when substance and track record and results are more important. And right now I'd put my record up against any governor in the country,” he said.

David Yepsen, chief political correspondent for The Des Moines Register and the go-to media watcher for all things Iowa presidential politics said being “vanilla” isn’t a bad thing.

“Vanilla is a popular choice of ice cream in America, and so when it comes to the presidency, people may like other candidates and may get more excited about other candidates. but when you look at who you want sitting in the Oval Office with their hand on the red button, you know, you tend to like candidates who come off as competent and cool,” he said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/08/tim-pawlenty-skipped-mccain-set-billing/
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: BM OUT on November 09, 2010, 08:04:58 AM
I actually think Mike Pence,if he runs for president and not governor of Indiana,will win the nomination.He will man handle all of the others in debates,is an arch conservative,will get the backing of tea party and looks good on television,plus is funny as hell in interviews.He is an extreme dark horse but Im betting on him or another Indiana guy Mitch Daniels.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on January 07, 2011, 01:15:37 PM
Tim Pawlenty: Sarah Palin 'Is A Force Of Nature'
The Huffington Post   |  Nick Wing Posted: 01- 7-11 11:46 AM

Read More: 2012 Elections, Elections 2012, Palin, Palin News, Pawlenty, Sarah Palin, Sarah Palin News, Tim Pawlenty, Tim Pawlenty President, Politics News

Recently replaced Minnesota Governor and potential Republican presidential candidate Tim Pawlenty weighed in recently regarding another talked-about contender, explaining that Sarah Palin is a "force of nature" on the political scene.

"If she wanted to compete for the presidency, I think she has the tools to do it," Pawlenty says in an interview on ABC News's "Nighline" set to air Friday, before adding that he wasn't really weighing that direct matchup. "I've got a long way to go to get people to even know my name, much less worrying about whether I could beat, you know, the force of nature that is Sarah Palin."

Pawlenty then claimed that the GOP's view of the former Alaska governor was focused more on respect than fear.

"I don't think it's fair to say people are afraid of her," he said. "It's fair to say she is somebody who's got a lot of influence and can use it for good, if she chooses to."

ABC News points out:

If both decided to run, it wouldn't be the first time Pawlenty competed with Palin for a top office. In 2008, Pawlenty was rumored to be on the short list to be the running mate for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

Pawlenty claimed that he wasn't really expecting to be on the ticket in 2008, but he couldn't help sounding somewhat disappointed that Palin had been picked over him.

"I started helping John McCain, not with the expectation of being his running mate, and then as that kinda grew, of course you get more interested," he said. "Things happen in life for a reason."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/07/tim-pawlenty-sarah-palin_n_805806.html
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on January 07, 2011, 01:41:08 PM
I like Pawlenty.  He's a little weird, but has solid experience and common sense.  I'd vote for him in a minute over obama.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: tu_holmes on January 07, 2011, 01:44:15 PM
At this point, I'd take Romney over Obama.  I don't know much about Pawlenty, but I'd probably take him over Obama too.  I would have voted for Obama in 2012 if he came in and did a good job, but at this point I can't see any reasonable scenario where I'd vote for him.  

This seems unlikely. Did you vote for him in 2008?

Cause if not when you have a McCain / Palin ticket, there's no way you would have voted for him in 2012.

Is it conjecture on my part? Sure, but I'd bet dollars to donuts that I'm right.

Go ahead and tell us otherwise though.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on January 07, 2011, 01:47:55 PM
This seems unlikely. Did you vote for him in 2008?

Cause if not when you have a McCain / Palin ticket, there's no way you would have voted for him in 2012.

Is it conjecture on my part? Sure, but I'd bet dollars to donuts that I'm right.

Go ahead and tell us otherwise though.

?  Not sure what you're asking me.  I voted against Obama in 08.  I'm likely voting against him again in 2012. 
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 07, 2011, 01:50:18 PM
I would vote for Pawlenty.  He has grown on me a bit.   Seems like a decent, non-threatening sane person not seeking fundamentally transform the USA.     
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: tu_holmes on January 07, 2011, 01:53:57 PM
?  Not sure what you're asking me.  I voted against Obama in 08.  I'm likely voting against him again in 2012. 

I think your historical vote against him would basically show you wouldn't vote for him in 2012. Whether he did everything you liked or not.

Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 07, 2011, 01:55:31 PM
I think your historical vote against him would basically show you wouldn't vote for him in 2012. Whether he did everything you liked or not.



Does my support for Madoff/Vanderloot in 2012 give you a signal how I'm voting in 2012?    ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: tu_holmes on January 07, 2011, 01:56:06 PM
Does my support for Madoff/Vanderloot in 2012 give you a signal how I'm voting in 2012?    ;D  ;D

I would say you're just going to vote for anyone who's already a politician... They're all crooks anyway. :D
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 07, 2011, 01:59:26 PM
I would say you're just going to vote for anyone who's already a politician... They're all crooks anyway. :D

I would vote for Ed Gein/ John Wayne Gacy in 2012 if forced to.   
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on January 07, 2011, 02:00:12 PM
I think your historical vote against him would basically show you wouldn't vote for him in 2012. Whether he did everything you liked or not.



You mean like my historical votes for Bill Clinton?  Or the fact I said on this board that I considered voting for Obama in 08?  And the fact I said, shortly after he was elected, that I would consider voting for Obama in 2012 if he did a good job?  

What I do in every election is vote for the person I think will do the best job, regardless of party.  I also take the balance of power into consideration (don't like one party rule).
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: tu_holmes on January 07, 2011, 02:00:49 PM
I would vote for Ed Gein/ John Wayne Gacy in 2012 if forced to.    

Scary on so many levels.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 07, 2011, 02:02:44 PM
Scary on so many levels.

Not really.   They are less a threat to the nation than Obama is.     
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: tu_holmes on January 07, 2011, 02:16:46 PM
Not really.   They are less a threat to the nation than Obama is.     

We will just simply have to disagree on this. To me, that comes across as kooky.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on January 07, 2011, 03:29:56 PM
INTRADE has obama at 58% chance of re-election.

Republicans better get their shit together.  Day 1 of their new House regime... two of the newbies decided they could be sworn in by raising their hand while at a FUNDRAISER!  They skipped day 1 of work - then they voted on 8 bills before they had even been sworn in!

Boehhner stopped congress today to swear the 2 of them in... called one of them fitzsimmons instead of fitzpatrick....... just seemed like Amateur hour thus far....
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on January 08, 2011, 06:22:42 PM
INTRADE made a prediction about a November 2012 election against an unnamed opponent.  lol . . . . Cancel Christmas . . . .
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on January 19, 2011, 08:20:56 AM
Pawlenty Says 'Leaning Towards' 2012 Race
Tuesday, 18 Jan 2011
 
WASHINGTON - Former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty said Tuesday he is leaning toward running for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012.

Pawlenty, interviewed on MSNBC's "The Daily Rundown," gave the strongest hint yet that he plans to seek the nomination to challenge Democratic President Barack Obama in 2012.

Pawlenty has previously said he is seriously considering a run with a decision expected by the end of March.

"It's something I'm leaning towards," he said. "I'm seriously considering it. I just haven't made the final decision."

A large field of Republican candidates are expected to enter the contest. None of the major names have done so yet, such as former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney.

Pawlenty, who lacks the name recognition of some potential contenders like former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, has been laying the groundwork for a campaign by visiting key states Iowa and New Hampshire and pushing a conservative theme of fiscal responsibility.

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/pawlenty-palin-2012/2011/01/18/id/383136
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 19, 2011, 08:28:52 AM
I could see myself voting for Pawlenty. 
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on March 21, 2011, 10:22:47 AM
Pawlenty expected to announce exploratory committee Monday afternoon
By: By CNN's Candy Crowley, Kevin Bohn and Paul Steinhauser

Washington (CNN) - Former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty is expected to announce Monday the formation of a presidential exploratory committee, several sources tell CNN. Such a committee allows candidates to start raising money and is seen as the first concrete step towards a run for a party nomination.

The formation by Pawlenty has long been expected as he has been traveling to key early-voting states recruiting advisers and beginning to lay out his vision for the country.

A source close to Pawlenty and a senior Republican source briefed on the decision to form the committee confirmed the announcement will be Monday afternoon. . Pawlenty's announcement will make him the first major Republican contender to make such a move.

Pawlenty is expected to make the announcement to supporters on his Facebook page.

Unlike some other candidates who are testing the waters, the senior Republican source said there is no doubt Pawlenty is getting into the race.
"There will be a formal announcement" later, the Republican told CNN.

The two-term governor of Minnesota touts himself as a fiscal conservative and has been reaching out to Tea Party activists to help build support.
In the latest CNN/Opinion Research Poll gauging Republicans' Choice for the GOP Nominee in 2012, Pawlenty ranks in the bottom tier of candidates garnering 3 percent of support. Polls this early in the contest, however, mostly reflect national name recognition.

The exploratory committee will be based in Minnesota, a source closed to Pawlenty tells CNN.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/21/pawlenty-expected-to-announce/
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on March 21, 2011, 10:43:53 AM
He wanted to bomb Libya long before obama/gates got on board.

Going on record with that may hurt him. 
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: BayGBM on March 21, 2011, 12:25:22 PM
Tim Pawlenty Exploratory Committee for President of the United States Visual Announcement

http://vimeo.com/21296895
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on March 21, 2011, 09:48:04 PM
His Tea Party speech.  Pretty good.  Not a great speaker, but says all the right things. 


Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on March 28, 2011, 10:14:13 AM
Pawlenty unveils finance team
By: CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser

(CNN) – Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty is raising the curtain on a 16-member fundraising team for his expected run for the White House.

A source close to Pawlenty confirms to CNN the Monday unveiling, which comes one week after the former governor announced the formation of a presidential exploratory committee.

Pawlenty is not as well known as some of potential rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, so a strong showing when it comes to fundraising is important for Pawlenty, as he tries to prove his strength in the months leading up to the start of the primary and caucus calendar. The timing of the finance team announcement comes just four days before the April 1 start of the second quarter of fundraising.

On a call last week with supporters, Pawlenty advisers said they would ask major donors to hold off on contributing until April, the source confirms to CNN.

Pawlenty is naming Brian Haley as his national finance director. Haley most recently served in the same position for FreedomFirst PAC, Pawlenty's political action committee. Haley also held a similar position at Sen. John McCain's Country First PAC and Friends of John McCain, the senator's re-election campaign.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/28/pawlenty-unveils-finance-team/#more-151746
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Straw Man on March 28, 2011, 10:26:58 AM
pretty bad when the voters of your own state won't even support you as POTUS

kind of like Gore

wasn't that always thrown around on this site by right wingers

I guess that standard only applies to Dems
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on March 29, 2011, 10:50:04 AM
Pawlenty calls out Trump
By: CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

(CNN) - Donald Trump should quit questioning President Obama's birthplace, says Tim Pawlenty, a potential future opponent of Trump's for the Republican presidential nomination.

Appearing on MSNBC's Morning Joe, Pawlenty said he doesn't doubt Obama was, in fact, born in Hawaii and says members of his party should stop pushing the issue.

"I, for one, do not believe we should be raising that issue," the ex-Minnesota governor said. "I think President Obama was born in the United States."

As for his thoughts on a seemingly improbable Trump presidential candidacy, Pawlently said, "I think he's talented. I think he's funny. I think he's interesting."

The comments come a day after Trump pushed the issue farther down the road, telling Fox News he is "really concerned" the president was not born in the United States.

"All of the sudden a lot of facts are emerging, and I am starting to wonder myself whether he was born in this country," he said.

Trump followed those comments up by releasing what he said was his own birth certificate to the conservative website Newsmax.com. The certificate Trump released however is not an official one, according to Politico.

It should be noted that CNN and other news organizations have thoroughly debunked the rumors about the president's birthplace. Hawaii has released a copy of the president's birth certificate - officially called a "certificate of live birth" - and the hospital where he was born took out ads in two Hawaiian newspapers in 1961 announcing the birth.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/29/pawlenty-calls-out-trump/#more-151971
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: chadstallion on March 29, 2011, 11:10:19 AM
oh oh. Pawlenty is making sense.
this could be bad for his nomination possibilities.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: tu_holmes on March 29, 2011, 11:11:43 AM
oh oh. Pawlenty is making sense.
this could be bad for his nomination possibilities.

That extreme right-wing base will certainly hate it.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 29, 2011, 11:15:57 AM
That extreme right-wing base will certainly hate it.

Would you vote for T paw over bama?   
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: tu_holmes on March 29, 2011, 11:19:33 AM
Would you vote for T paw over bama?   

Possibly... I have to do more research, but I certainly might.

Obama's racking up the items in the "against" column for me.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on March 29, 2011, 12:07:05 PM
33,

Would you vote for T paw over Trump?   
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 29, 2011, 12:17:10 PM
33,

Would you vote for T paw over Trump?   

Not in the primary.

So far for me:

Trump/Bachmann
Bachmann/West
Bachmann/Cain
Cain/West
Bachmann/Paul

Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on March 29, 2011, 12:48:37 PM
Not in the primary.

So far for me:

Trump/Bachmann
Bachmann/West
Bachmann/Cain
Cain/West
Bachmann/Paul



There it is.  You are a complete farkin' groupee at this point.

You choose turmp over pawlenty.  That's it man.  I've lost all hope for you. 

Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Fury on March 29, 2011, 12:56:00 PM
A Cain/West team would be godly. Beastly economic and foreign policy knowledge in one package.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: chadstallion on March 29, 2011, 03:22:16 PM
Not in the primary.

So far for me:

Trump/Bachmann
Bachmann/West
Bachmann/Cain
Cain/West
Bachmann/Paul



all dream tickets
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on March 29, 2011, 04:01:58 PM
all dream tickets

For obama.

West's a nut.  I mean, he looks like he's always about to pistol whip people.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 29, 2011, 04:05:27 PM
For obama.

West's a nut.  I mean, he looks like he's always about to pistol whip people.

 ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Fury on March 29, 2011, 04:07:35 PM
For obama.

West's a nut.  I mean, he looks like he's always about to pistol whip people.

A nut? Have you even heard the guy speak? I know you live in the same state as him so it's understandable that you had no idea who he was a mere month ago but the guy comes off as quite intelligent when he speaks.

Seems like you're another Obama drone who feels threatened by the guy.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on March 29, 2011, 04:41:07 PM
I've seen a lot of west.  I love the dude but he won't play nationally.

and this new thing of "i wont allow any muslim judges cause of sharia law"... gimme a break.  fearmongering, pandering to far-right.  I would personally smack the piss out of any ass-hat that tried to impose any sharia law on me.  But I also know it aint' ever gonna fcking happen here.  I dont like his fearmongering techniques.  The economy and war are FAR FAR FAR more important than some bullshit about sharia law.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Fury on March 29, 2011, 05:05:57 PM
I've seen a lot of west.  I love the dude but he won't play nationally.

and this new thing of "i wont allow any muslim judges cause of sharia law"... gimme a break.  fearmongering, pandering to far-right.  I would personally smack the piss out of any ass-hat that tried to impose any sharia law on me.  But I also know it aint' ever gonna fcking happen here.  I dont like his fearmongering techniques.  The economy and war are FAR FAR FAR more important than some bullshit about sharia law.

It won't happen here? There's a growing list of court cases that say otherwise.  ;)

And thank you for proving that you haven't seen dick of West as he has talked extensively about the economy AND the wars. I'm guessing you read a CNN or MSNBC article about the guy and picked up on his stance towards Muslims.  ::)

But I find it funny that NOW the economy is an issue for you. Meanwhile, your God-King hasn't addressed it for over two years yet it hasn't stopped you from slobbering his nuts.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on March 29, 2011, 05:12:40 PM
There are 3100+ counties in the USA.

how many of them use sharia law?


I'm sure no sympathizer, and you try that shit on me and i'm getting contempt of court of urinating and throwing it on the jury.


But I think there are far more pressing matters that the next US President should worry about. 
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Fury on March 29, 2011, 05:27:09 PM
There are 3100+ counties in the USA.

how many of them use sharia law?


I'm sure no sympathizer, and you try that shit on me and i'm getting contempt of court of urinating and throwing it on the jury.


But I think there are far more pressing matters that the next US President should worry about. 


Again, you're clearly lying through your teeth and have done no reading whatsoever on West. You didn't even know who the guy was a month ago. He's spoken at length about the economy AND the wars and has come off terrific on those, as well.

You sound like a threatened leftist.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on March 29, 2011, 05:29:55 PM
screw obama's agenda.

but as long as repubs are screaming about fcking sharia law and birth certs, they're not winning in 2012.

Probably why no "real" repub candidates have emerged.  The know the nuts are running the GOp asylum and obama will probbaly get 4 more years out of it.

If Mitt and t-paw and the other common sense moderates (that will win nationally) sit out Iowa and concede to the screamers, it's very bad.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on March 29, 2011, 06:16:22 PM
I've seen a lot of west.  I love the dude but he won't play nationally.


Quote
I had never heard of this guy, and he's from my state.  I gotta read up on him.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: tu_holmes on March 29, 2011, 06:17:10 PM



I think you can learn a lot in 2.5 months if you want to.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on March 29, 2011, 06:18:27 PM
I think you can learn a lot in 2.5 months if you want to.

Yes, certainly possible.  Did that happen?  I doubt it.   :) 
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Fury on March 29, 2011, 06:21:33 PM



LOL!

Yes, certainly possible.  Did that happen?  I doubt it.   :) 

So true. He doesn't seem to have any grasp of where West stands on the economy and wars but apparently he's "done a lot of reading on the guy".
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on March 29, 2011, 06:23:26 PM
yep.  i've seen more and more of him, and paid attention.  I don't think he'd play well nationally, but he's doing what he can to secure that right wing rabid base.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: tu_holmes on March 29, 2011, 06:25:20 PM
Yes, certainly possible.  Did that happen?  I doubt it.   :) 

Personally I haven't followed the guy... Unless someone tells me he's some republican front runner all of a sudden, I probably won't.

Maybe I should... I dunno.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on March 29, 2011, 06:26:35 PM
yep.  i've seen more and more of him, and paid attention.  I don't think he'd play well nationally, but he's doing what he can to secure that right wing rabid base.

Where have you seen him?
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on March 29, 2011, 06:27:43 PM
Personally I haven't followed the guy... Unless someone tells me he's some republican front runner all of a sudden, I probably won't.

Maybe I should... I dunno.

I had no idea who he was till BF and 33 started posting about him.  Check out their threads and some of his interviews and speeches.  He speaks the truth.  Very refreshing voice in DC. 
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Fury on March 29, 2011, 06:31:03 PM
I think he's too inexperienced to headline a ticket as its his first time as a congressman but I could see him being a VP pick. The guy tells it like it is and I've yet to see him back down from anyone. His economic and foreign policy beliefs are aces.

And the icing on the cake is that CAIR is frothing at the mouth because of this guy.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on March 29, 2011, 06:32:12 PM
BB,  Spend an hour learning about him.

http://allenwest2012.ning.com/

As you can see, his followers are practically in the dozens already:
http://lt-col-allen-west-for-president-2012.meetup.com/

Cities with the most people interested in Lt Col Allen West For President 2012 Meetups1 Saint Louis, MO  3 interested  
2 Dallas, TX  2 interested  
3 Huntington Beach, CA  2 interested  
4 Prescott, AZ  2 interested  
5 Alamogordo, NM  1 interested  
6 Bangor, ME  1 interested  
7 Belle Vernon, PA  1 interested  
8 Buffalo, NY  1 interested  
9 Cambridge, MD  1 interested  
10 Charlottesville, VA  1 interested  
11 Clarksburg, MD  1 interested  
12 Columbia, TN  1 interested  
13 Defuniak Springs, FL  1 interested  
14 El Dorado Hills, CA  1 interested  
15 Elmwood Park, IL  1 interested  
16 Fort Collins, CO  1 interested  
17 Fredericksburg, VA  1 interested  
18 Harbor City, CA  1 interested  
19 Hebron, MD  1 interested  
20 Kingwood, TX  1 interested  

BB, I do not see your city listed.  Perhaps you can be the 1st in your area.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on March 29, 2011, 06:34:04 PM
BB,  Spend an hour learning about him.

http://allenwest2012.ning.com/

As you can see, his followers are practically in the dozens already:
http://lt-col-allen-west-for-president-2012.meetup.com/

Cities with the most people interested in Lt Col Allen West For President 2012 Meetups1 Saint Louis, MO  3 interested  
2 Dallas, TX  2 interested  
3 Huntington Beach, CA  2 interested  
4 Prescott, AZ  2 interested  
5 Alamogordo, NM  1 interested  
6 Bangor, ME  1 interested  
7 Belle Vernon, PA  1 interested  
8 Buffalo, NY  1 interested  
9 Cambridge, MD  1 interested  
10 Charlottesville, VA  1 interested  
11 Clarksburg, MD  1 interested  
12 Columbia, TN  1 interested  
13 Defuniak Springs, FL  1 interested  
14 El Dorado Hills, CA  1 interested  
15 Elmwood Park, IL  1 interested  
16 Fort Collins, CO  1 interested  
17 Fredericksburg, VA  1 interested  
18 Harbor City, CA  1 interested  
19 Hebron, MD  1 interested  
20 Kingwood, TX  1 interested  

BB, I do not see your city listed.  Perhaps you can be the 1st in your area.

Where have you seen him? 

BTW, my friend had a great birthday bash yesterday. 
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on March 29, 2011, 06:34:40 PM
I think he's too inexperienced to headline a ticket as its his first time as a congressman but I could see him being a VP pick. The guy tells it like it is and I've yet to see him back down from anyone. His economic and foreign policy beliefs are aces.

And the icing on the cake is that CAIR is frothing at the mouth because of this guy.

I could see him being a VP pick too. 
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Fury on March 29, 2011, 06:35:05 PM
BB,  Spend an hour learning about him.

http://allenwest2012.ning.com/

As you can see, his followers are practically in the dozens already:
http://lt-col-allen-west-for-president-2012.meetup.com/


He's got a lot more than a few dozen supporters. But it's cute how a conservative like you seems to have a problem with this guy, a legit conservative.

Quick, tell us again how you're not an Obama-worshiping liberal.  ::)

"West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."

Can't not like the guy with quotes like that.  8)
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on March 29, 2011, 06:38:30 PM
i'd vote for him over obama, without a doubt.  i'm just saying he's not presidential caliber, IMO

Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Fury on March 29, 2011, 06:39:31 PM
i'd vote for him over obama, without a doubt.  i'm just saying he's not presidential caliber, IMO



Not yet, at least.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 29, 2011, 06:39:49 PM
A shame liberal blacks won't go for the guy.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Fury on March 29, 2011, 06:40:39 PM
A shame liberal blacks won't go for the guy.

Cue the "Uncle Tom" remarks.

I wonder how the media would handle a Cain/West ticket. Would they dare criticize them for fear of being called a racist?
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on March 31, 2011, 09:49:30 AM
Obama won't hold on to youth vote, Pawlenty claims
By: CNN Political Reporter Peter Hamby

Washington (CNN) – President Obama won't have a lock on the youth vote in 2012 ... or so claims one of his potential Republican challengers.

Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty told Vanderbilt University's student newspaper last week that his nascent campaign has been reaching out to young voters in all the right ways, like announcing his presidential exploratory committee on Facebook and appearing on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

Pawlenty, who was participating in a symposium at the Nashville-based university, also predicted some buyer's remorse on the part of young voters.

"President Obama is going to help us (get the youth vote) because a bunch of people that voted for him last time feel duped, and they aren't going to sign up again for dupe version two," Pawlenty told the Vanderbilt Hustler. "The excitement around his rhetoric that has now soured into the reality of his, in my view, flawed leadership, is now evident for all to see."

Pawlenty ticked through a few attributes that make him more appealing to the under-30 crowd than some of the other potential candidates.

"For a candidate, I am relatively young," the 50-year old said. "I have a more recent connection to the younger generation than some have or might have had in the past. We really understand the new era of communications, and that's why I spend time on Jon Stewart and love to do it."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/30/obama-wont-hold-on-to-youth-vote-pawlenty-claims/#more-152193
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2011, 11:31:14 AM
Pawlenty to Run 2012 Campaign from Minn. High-rise
Tuesday, 05 Apr 2011 06:07 PM

ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — Republican Tim Pawlenty's nascent presidential campaign is settling into a high-rise office building in downtown Minneapolis, the planned headquarters of an anticipated White House run.

An adviser to Pawlenty confirmed Tuesday that the former Minnesota governor's exploratory committee has leased space and is moving into in the 27-story building. Pawlenty's campaign will occupy 5,000 sq. feet on the ninth floor.

The lease was first reported by the Minneapolis-St. Paul Business Journal. The newspaper quoted a property broker as saying Pawlenty's team preferred the site because it is partially furnished, close to a light-rail line that runs to the airport and has many restaurants and amenities nearby.

Terms were not disclosed.

Pawlenty told radio host Dennis Miller earlier Tuesday that a full-blown presidential announcement is coming "shortly."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Pawlenty-Headquarters/2011/04/05/id/391895
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 06, 2011, 11:32:30 AM
He is boring as shit - but i would vote for him.   
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on April 11, 2011, 09:01:49 AM
Pawlenty hires leading GOP strategist
By: CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser

Washington (CNN) - In what's being seen as a major score for Tim Pawlenty, the former Minnesota governor has signed up a leading Republican strategist.

The strategist, former Republican Governors Association Executive Director Nick Ayers, is joining Pawlenty's team as campaign manager for the Minnesota Republican's presidential exploratory committee.

"We are very excited Nick will lead our team. His leadership and record of winning tough races in every part of our country will provide even more momentum to our campaign to get America back on track," Pawlenty said in a statement Monday morning.

Ayers steered the RGA in the 2008 and 2010 election cycles, helping the organization break fundraising records. Pawlenty was vice-chairman of the RGA during much of the past cycle. The RGA chairman last cycle, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, is also seriously considering a bid for the GOP presidential nomination.

Prior to his years at the RGA, Ayers was a senior political aide to former Georgia Gov. Sunny Purdue and ran Purdue's successful 2006 re-election campaign. This year, Ayers helped new Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus transition into his new position.

"My decision to join the Pawlenty campaign is in total affirmation of Governor Pawlenty's record as a conservative, two-term governor of a blue state, his character and principles and his vision for this Nation, which is second to no one running for president," Ayers said in a statement.

Word of Ayers' hire was first reported by Fox News. The 28 year-old Ayers, who will move to Minneapolis, Minnesota and take over his new position on April 25, was sought after by a number of Republican presidential campaigns.

"My decision does not mean I think less of Haley Barbour, Jon Huntsman, Mitch Daniels or Newt Gingrich should they decide to run, because I do not. I know them all personally and believe in their intellect, capabilities, and principles," Ayers added.

While ranking low in national polling of Republican voters, Pawlenty has been very effective in building a strong team of advisers and strategists both based in Minnesota and in some of the crucial early-voting states in the presidential primary and caucus calendar.

The Ayers announcement comes as Pawlenty spends Monday in another important state in the road to the White House, Florida. Pawlenty is holding finance meetings as he builds up his fundraising efforts.
Pawlenty formed a presidential exploratory committee last month and is expected to formally announce his presidential bid in the coming weeks.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/11/pawlenty-hires-leading-gop-strategist/#more-153807
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on April 12, 2011, 05:10:51 PM
Pawlenty: ‘I’m running for president’
By: CNN Political Unit

(CNN) - Former Republican Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty told CNN’s Piers Morgan Tuesday he’s in the race.

“I’m running for president,” Pawlenty said in an interview set to air Tuesday at 9 p.m. ET on “Piers Morgan Tonight.” “I’m not putting my hat in the ring rhetorically or ultimately for vice president. I’m focused on running for president.”

But Pawlenty's campaign said the comments were not an official announcement.

"As the governor has said many times, he is not running to be anybody's vice president," Pawlenty spokesman Alex Conant told CNN. "He will have a formal announcement about running for president later this spring."

Pawlenty announced the formation of a presidential exploratory committee last month.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/12/pawlenty-‘i’m-running-for-president’/#more-154097
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 12, 2011, 05:14:06 PM
Going nowhere.   
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on April 12, 2011, 08:23:24 PM
Going nowhere.   

33, you are totally the chick that marries the long-haired A-hole who rides a motorcycle and bangs your friends on the side. 

In the meantime, T-paw is the perfect catch.  But he's too boring for you.  You need to be with 'the bad boy'.  He's Mr. nice Guy who would do a great job as a candidate - no gaffes, a safe bet.  Trump?  LOL he's an embarassment. 

You're the girl that has to be with the bad boy.  These girls always lose in the end.  You'll be stuck with a candidate that will do terribly in the general election.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2011, 04:53:27 AM
33, you are totally the chick that marries the long-haired A-hole who rides a motorcycle and bangs your friends on the side. 

In the meantime, T-paw is the perfect catch.  But he's too boring for you.  You need to be with 'the bad boy'.  He's Mr. nice Guy who would do a great job as a candidate - no gaffes, a safe bet.  Trump?  LOL he's an embarassment. 

You're the girl that has to be with the bad boy.  These girls always lose in the end.  You'll be stuck with a candidate that will do terribly in the general election.

No - you want the nice sap who wont go after your messiah, play the nice guy, and lose 49 51 to obamao and give him a second term.  I wat to someone who is going to take n the communist piece of trash obama head on like Bachmann/West/Trump/Cain etc.   
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on April 13, 2011, 07:48:33 AM
No - you want the nice sap who wont go after your messiah, play the nice guy, and lose 49 51 to obamao and give him a second term.  I wat to someone who is going to take n the communist piece of trash obama head on like Bachmann/West/Trump/Cain etc.   


how many states would trump win with his birther platform, 33?
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2011, 07:53:31 AM

how many states would trump win with his birther platform, 33?

He is using the birther platform to get in good with the rabid GOP base, and its working.   He already is tied for first.   When he gets the nod - he will talk jobs, oil, respect, etc and CRUSH your messiah like a trash compactor does tin cans.       
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on April 13, 2011, 08:12:01 AM
He is using the birther platform to get in good with the rabid GOP base, and its working.   He already is tied for first.   When he gets the nod - he will talk jobs, oil, respect, etc and CRUSH your messiah like a trash compactor does tin cans.       

I thought obama was Ozmo's messiah...

???

Ozmo, you trying to steal my messiah?  Put up your dunks, chump!
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Benny B on April 13, 2011, 08:34:12 AM
It doesn't matter what "Minnesota voters" want. Good 'N Pawlenty will be the repube nominee. So either learn to love and embrace 'em now, or prepare to stay home and cry on Election Day, November 2012.  ;)
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: MM2K on April 13, 2011, 10:57:14 PM
I hope you guys arent surpised by this or find it to be a reflection on Pawlenty. Its MINNESOTA, what do you expect? Youre talking about the only state that Reagan didnt carry in '84, the place that elected Jesse Ventura as governor, and the place that elected Al Franken to the Senate. Quite frankly, I would be concerned if they did want him as president.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on April 14, 2011, 10:14:17 AM
I hope you guys arent surpised by this or find it to be a reflection on Pawlenty. Its MINNESOTA, what do you expect? Youre talking about the only state that Reagan didnt carry in '84, the place that elected Jesse Ventura as governor, and the place that elected Al Franken to the Senate. Quite frankly, I would be concerned if they did want him as president.

Good point.  Although they at least put Jesse Ventura in office before he fell apart. 
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on April 21, 2011, 12:48:09 PM
Pawlenty Just Can’t Seem to Get Noticed
Thursday, 21 Apr 2011 12:53 PM
By Andra Varin

Tim Pawlenty’s got a lot of appeal on paper, but for some reason he never gets as much press as other potential Republican presidential candidates.

Writing in The Atlantic, Joshua Green takes a look at why the former Minnesota government is being eclipsed in the media by more colorful figures, such as Donald Trump and Sarah Palin.

“Pawlenty is one of several accomplished, credentialed Republicans having a much harder time breaking through than they ever would have imagined,” Green says.

“As much as anyone, he's the victim of the conservative electorate's sharp turn to the right and its appetite for bombast over competence and professionalism.”

Green points out that Pawlenty had to work with a Democratic-led Legislature in Minnesota, where “they’re not big on bombast.” Now, he’s stressing his evangelical faith and trying to woo the tea party as he seeks to emphasize his conservative credentials.

And while he may be accused of playing conservative to woo support, Minnesotans say he’s always been that way.

“Pawlenty is the most conservative governor we've seen in the modern era," Lawrence Jacobs, who directs the Center for the Study of Politics and Governance at the University of Minnesota, told Green. "But he had the political intelligence to not come across that way."

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Pawlenty-media-noticed-Trump/2011/04/21/id/393667
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on May 20, 2011, 11:24:39 AM
Pawlenty headed to Iowa to formally declare candidacy
By: CNN's Paul Steinhauser Peter Hamby and Kevin Bohn

(CNN) – Tim Pawlenty's making it official, and the location where he's doing it is no surprise.

A source close to the former Minnesota governor tells CNN that Pawlenty will formally announce his candidacy for president Monday morning in neighboring Iowa. The Hawkeye State's caucuses kick off the presidential primary and caucus calendar and a strong finish in Iowa is crucial for Pawlenty's hopes of winning the Republican presidential nomination.

Pawlenty's announcement at an event in Des Moines will kick off a multi-state campaign swing that also includes Florida, New Hampshire, New York and Washington D.C.

The formal declaration of candidacy has been expected. Pawlenty was the first of what are considered the major GOP White House contenders to form a presidential exploratory committee, filing with the Federal Election Commission on March 21.

. . .

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/20/pawlenty-headed-to-iowa-to-formally-declare-candidacy/#more-160086
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2011, 11:40:08 AM
t-paw is one exciting dude
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on May 23, 2011, 11:36:12 AM
Republican Pawlenty Announces Run for U.S. President
Sunday, 22 May 2011 09:33 PM

Former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty announced Sunday that he is seeking the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

Pawlenty made the announcement in a video on his website in a preview of a formal announcement Monday.

"Tomorrow my first campaign stop will be in Iowa and that's where I'm going to begin a campaign that tells the American people the truth," Pawlenty said in the video. "I'm Tim Pawlenty and I'm running for president of the United States."

Pawlenty, known as "T-Paw" to his supporters, was a popular two-term governor in a big swing state, giving him credibility as a Republican who can attract vital support from independent voters.

Pawlenty announced in March that he would set up a presidential exploratory committee. He was the first senior Republican to do so.

Some political observers say the Republican presidential field shaping up to challenge Democratic President Barack Obama is lacking.

Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney has been leading some early polls for the Republican presidential nomination. Newt Gingrich, a former speaker of the U.S. House who entered the race two weeks ago, has had a rocky start having drawn the ire of fellow conservatives by criticizing a Republican plan to overhaul the Medicare health insurance program for the elderly.

Prominent Republicans such as Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee and Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour have decided not to join the race.

Two potential candidates with ties to the conservative tea party movement, U.S. Representative Michele Bachmann and 2008 vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, have not announced their plans.

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/pawlenty-gop-president/2011/05/22/id/397284
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 23, 2011, 11:49:33 AM
He needs to get a bit louder and more agreesive, but i like him.   
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on May 23, 2011, 11:55:04 AM
He needs to get a bit louder and more agreesive, but i like him.   

Not sure that's in his personality, but I like what I've heard from him. 
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on May 23, 2011, 12:04:01 PM
he's john kerry all over again.   stiff and awkward.  i'd vote for him over obama.  but i hope another repub emerges from the field as the winner.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on May 23, 2011, 12:15:01 PM
Tim Pawlenty wiped a serial child molester’s record clean in 2008

Former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty formally announced his campaign seeking the GOP nomination for the presidency Monday morning, but by midday, his political past had already caught up to him. Reporting by Minneapolis City Pages' Nick Pinto brought to attention a pardon then-Gov. Pawlenty granted to a sex offender in October 2008, which is sure to haunt the candidate throughout his campaign: the man Pawlenty pardoned was later arrested again for molesting his daughter more than 250 times in an eight-year span, including six years prior to his pardon.

Jeremy Giefer served 45 days in prison in 1994 after being convicted of statutory rape. However, because he married the then-14-year-old girl and stuck around to father the child they conceived together, he begged the state for an extraordinary pardon, which would no longer require Giefer to report himself as a sex offender.

The board — which includes the Minnesota attorney general, the chief justice of the Minnesota Supreme Court, and the governor (Pawlenty, at the time) — voted unanimously to pardon Giefer.

The damning details came in November 2010, when Giefer was again arrested on counts of sex with an underage girl — this time with the daughter he had conceived with Susan before his first rape charge. According to the complaint his daughter, identified in court documents as C.G., filed, Griefer would often make her have sex with him or perform oral sex on him as a favor before he would give her permission to do things, and that he put her on birth control when she was 15 years old so that she wouldn't get pregnant when he raped her without a condom. The abuse started when she was 9 years old.

Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on May 23, 2011, 12:18:16 PM
Cancel Christmas.   ::)
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on May 23, 2011, 12:21:14 PM
Cancel Christmas.   ::)

yeah, i'm sure this pardon isn't a big deal.  Didn't affect huckabee a bit.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on May 23, 2011, 12:22:26 PM
yeah, i'm sure this pardon isn't a big deal.  Didn't affect huckabee a bit.

No, it did not. 

"The board — which includes the Minnesota attorney general, the chief justice of the Minnesota Supreme Court, and the governor (Pawlenty, at the time) — voted unanimously to pardon Giefer."

Oh yeah, his campaign is toast over this.  lol
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on May 23, 2011, 12:25:35 PM
If governors Mitt and Huntsman didn't pardon a child molester.... and another governor did...

I'd much rather republican voters select the non-pardoner.

It gives the GOP a better chance to defeat Obama.  I sure as hell don't want Code Pink screaming about the rape of a child due to Pawlenty's vote, and it giving soccer mom votes to Obama.

I'd rather repubs choose a candidate without this kind of BS on their record.  It doesn't defeat his campaign, but it sure makes the other repubs a better option.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on May 23, 2011, 12:36:11 PM
The board voted unanimously to pardon the guy, so to say Pawlenty pardoned him is misleading.  I don't care about this.  I doubt most of the voters will care either. 

Pawlenty's biggest problems are name recognition and his lack of charisma.   
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Straw Man on May 23, 2011, 12:45:46 PM
Tim Pawlenty wiped a serial child molester’s record clean in 2008

Former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty formally announced his campaign seeking the GOP nomination for the presidency Monday morning, but by midday, his political past had already caught up to him. Reporting by Minneapolis City Pages' Nick Pinto brought to attention a pardon then-Gov. Pawlenty granted to a sex offender in October 2008, which is sure to haunt the candidate throughout his campaign: the man Pawlenty pardoned was later arrested again for molesting his daughter more than 250 times in an eight-year span, including six years prior to his pardon.

Jeremy Giefer served 45 days in prison in 1994 after being convicted of statutory rape. However, because he married the then-14-year-old girl and stuck around to father the child they conceived together, he begged the state for an extraordinary pardon, which would no longer require Giefer to report himself as a sex offender.The board — which includes the Minnesota attorney general, the chief justice of the Minnesota Supreme Court, and the governor (Pawlenty, at the time) — voted unanimously to pardon Giefer.

The damning details came in November 2010, when Giefer was again arrested on counts of sex with an underage girl — this time with the daughter he had conceived with Susan before his first rape charge. According to the complaint his daughter, identified in court documents as C.G., filed, Griefer would often make her have sex with him or perform oral sex on him as a favor before he would give her permission to do things, and that he put her on birth control when she was 15 years old so that she wouldn't get pregnant when he raped her without a condom. The abuse started when she was 9 years old.



wtf ?

the girl was 14 and they pardoned him because he married her

how the %##? is that even legal and why would that change the fact that he fucked a child?
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on May 23, 2011, 12:49:03 PM
wtf ?
the girl was 14 and they pardoned him because he married her
how the %##? is that even legal and why would that change the fact that he fucked a child?

pretty disturbing stuff.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on May 23, 2011, 12:51:08 PM
Not exactly financially responsible either - Other republicans criticize his insane spending.  I hope repubs go in another direction. 



Arne Carlson, a Republican who was governor of Minnesota from 1991 to 1999, recently told Time magazine of the presidential hopeful, “I don’t think any governor has left behind a worse financial mess than he has.” Carlson is an avowed fiscal conservative who, in his retirement, has led a “Paul Revere Tour” to raise alarm about the state’s finances. Carlson has been a frequent critic of Pawlenty’s fiscal mismanagement and in April, he told Minn Post that Pawlenty undid important fiscal reforms and is solely to blame for the state’s fiscal morass:

“Under Tim Pawlenty, it became deficit heaven,” said Carlson. “All the things we did were undone. Now, what bothers me is you get these holier-than-thou attitudes. Oh, we’re all to blame. But that’s just not true. There’s one person who has the power to insist on a balanced budget. That’s the chief executive officer, the governor.”
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: tu_holmes on May 23, 2011, 01:28:32 PM
wtf ?

the girl was 14 and they pardoned him because he married her

how the %##? is that even legal and why would that change the fact that he fucked a child?

You can get a pardon for anything... There is no legal requirement. As long as it was a state crime, the governor can do it... No evidence needed regarding anything.

It's at will... It's pretty fucked up though.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on May 24, 2011, 10:13:20 AM
Children who are the victims of failed personal responsibility are not my problem, nor are they the problem for our government.

- Tim Pawlenty.

Originally published in the Aitkin Independent Age Newspaper
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 24, 2011, 10:16:32 AM
And?   We are broke moron.   We cant afford to pay for all your leftist welfare scams anymore.   
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on May 24, 2011, 10:25:19 AM
And?   We are broke moron.   We cant afford to pay for all your leftist welfare scams anymore.   

look here homie, I want obama out of the white house too.  Which is why i'd prefer we vote for a republican canidate WITHOUT a history of pardoning child rapists who do it again, or making statements that kids aren't his problem.

You don't think this quote or pardon will come up during the 2008 fall race?  Of course it will!  But Bachmann or Cain won't have this issue - TPaw will :(
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 24, 2011, 10:26:34 AM
look here homie, I want obama out of the white house too.  Which is why i'd prefer we vote for a republican canidate WITHOUT a history of pardoning child rapists who do it again, or making statements that kids aren't his problem.

You don't think this quote or pardon will come up during the 2008 fall race?  Of course it will!  But Bachmann or Cain won't have this issue - TPaw will :(


You voted for Bob "amnesty for illegals" Barr.  I think this should register smll in comparison.     
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on May 24, 2011, 10:29:49 AM
You voted for Bob "amnesty for illegals" Barr.  I think this should register smll in comparison.     

attacking me won't change the fact that TPaw looks like shit on this one.

IMO, it's a pretty bad thing.  Something the dems will use against him.  You disagree?


See, I think the prob is, you think i'm pro-obama by pointing out Tpaw's weakness.  rather, I'm concerned the repubs will lose by running an inferior candidate.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on May 24, 2011, 11:39:43 AM
Bush praises 2012 candidate
By: CNN Associate Producer Gabriella Schwarz

(CNN) – Just because he's not running for president doesn't mean former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush can't wade into the presidential waters.

Bush lent support to Republican presidential candidate Tim Pawlenty Tuesday via Twitter.

"I admire truth telling and t-paw sure did it to open his campaign," Bush wrote in a Tweet before linking to an opinion piece in The Wall Street Journal.

In his presidential announcement Monday in Iowa, Pawlenty called for means testing for Social Security beneficiaries and reduced ethanol subsidies, an unpopular position among conservatives in the Hawkeye State.

"The truth about federal energy subsidies, including federal subsidies for ethanol, is that they have to be phased out. We need to do it gradually. We need to do it fairly. But we need to do it," the former two-term Minnesota governor said. "Conventional wisdom says you can't talk about ethanol in Iowa or Social Security in Florida or financial reform on Wall Street. But someone has to say it."

Tuesday's piece in The Wall Street Journal praised Pawlenty for "refusing to stick to the script for candidates looking to harvest votes in February's Iowa caucuses."

"Mr. Pawlenty has passed an early test of fortitude," the piece reads.

Persistent rumors that Bush may seek the Republican presidential nomination in 2012 prompted him to release a statement Sunday, again saying he will not run.

"While I am flattered by everyone's encouragement, my decision has not changed," Bush said in the statement. "I will not be a candidate for president in 2012."

His decision leaves many in the Bush clan in search of a candidate to support in the next election. Some had hoped to back Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, who announced Sunday he would not run for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination.

Former U.S. ambassador to China Jon Huntsman, who is considering a run for president, visited former President George H.W. Bush and first lady Barbara Bush at their compound in Kennebunkport, Maine Monday. Pawlenty met with the former president at his office in Houston, Texas a few weeks ago.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/24/bush-praises-2012-candidate/#more-160725
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on May 25, 2011, 06:05:31 PM
Pawlenty: I Balanced Every One of My Budgets
Wednesday, 25 May 2011

Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty is defending his budget approach and says that he balanced every one of his budgets.

The Republican presidential contender on Wednesday pitched himself as an economic pro and says his approach in Minnesota could help change Washington. He says he would cut the federal workforce and end "crony capitalism."

When asked about his handling of the state budget, he told reporters the budgets always were in the black. He isn't eager to bring up the mammoth deficit that was forecast for his successor's first budget.

Pawlenty spoke to a conservative think tank in Washington as part of a week-long rollout of his White House run. His remarks were on the economy, a top concern of voters.

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Pawlenty-EconomicRecord/2011/05/25/id/397746
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Straw Man on May 25, 2011, 06:52:38 PM
I always get a laugh when governors brag about balancing their budget when they all have some form of balanced budget amendment
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on May 26, 2011, 12:54:03 AM
He isn't eager to bring up the mammoth deficit that was forecast for his successor's first budget.



LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: chadstallion on May 26, 2011, 05:34:51 AM
The board voted unanimously to pardon the guy, so to say Pawlenty pardoned him is misleading.  I don't care about this.  I doubt most of the voters will care either. 

Pawlenty's biggest problems are name recognition and his lack of charisma.   
George W. while in TEXAS, never pardoned anyone.  He has the highest kill rate of all other governors.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on May 26, 2011, 03:17:53 PM
Tim Pawlenty: If I Were President, I’d Sign The Ryan Plan Into Law



Well, this quote may come back to haunt him in a major way.  He didn't have a choice - they'd "newt" his ass otherwise.

Now he's tied to that medicare position forever - or be known as a flipflopper.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: chadstallion on May 26, 2011, 03:33:17 PM
Tim Pawlenty: If I Were President, I’d Sign The Ryan Plan Into Law



Well, this quote may come back to haunt him in a major way.  He didn't have a choice - they'd "newt" his ass otherwise.

Now he's tied to that medicare position forever - or be known as a flipflopper.


....and another bites the dust....
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on June 07, 2011, 02:59:31 PM
A bit of an overstatement, but I like his thinking. 

Pawlenty: If you can Google it, cut it
By Charles Riley @CNNMoney June 7, 2011

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Republican presidential hopeful Tim Pawlenty laid out an economic vision for America on Tuesday that would cut taxes and dramatically reduce the size and scope of government operations.

Among his more novel ideas: If you can find it on Google, the government shouldn't be doing it.

"We can start by applying what I call 'The Google Test.' If you can find a good or service on the Internet, then the federal government probably doesn't need to be doing it," Pawlenty said.

Among the services he would cut: Amtrak, the U.S. Postal Service, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the Government Printing Office.

Pawlenty said those organizations "were all built for a time in our country when the private sector did not adequately provide those products. That's no longer the case."

Interpreted broadly, the test could spell the end of federal involvement in the storage of nuclear waste, environmental clean-up efforts and disaster relief -- all services that a Google search reveals are offered by private sector firms.

"I guess it's an interesting strategy," said Craig Jennings, director of federal fiscal policy at OMB Watch, a budget watchdog group. "You could probably find private investigators, so let's get rid of the FBI, and there are labs that do food inspections, so let's eliminate federal food inspectors."

In addition, the Minnesota Republican has broader plans for curtailing government spending. As president, he would ask Congress to grant him emergency authority to freeze spending at current levels, and then impound up to 5% of federal spending until the budget is balanced.

"The implausible thing is cutting spending that dramatically from today's levels," said Rudolph Penner, a former Congressional Budget Office director who is now a fellow at the Urban Institute. And Pawlenty would be hard pressed to carry through, Penner said, because his pledge would require drastic cuts to health care and Social Security.

. . .

http://money.cnn.com/2011/06/07/news/economy/pawlenty_economic_plan/index.htm?hpt=hp_t1
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Straw Man on June 07, 2011, 04:03:51 PM
A neocon on this board used to always bring up the point that Gore couldn't win his own state as having some significance

I wonder if that applies when the politician is a Repub
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 07, 2011, 06:54:10 PM
A neocon on this board used to always bring up the point that Gore couldn't win his own state as having some significance

I wonder if that applies when the politician is a Repub

By next year the way things are going I'm not even sure the dems will allow Obama to run. 
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on July 10, 2011, 03:15:59 PM
Pawlenty: Bachmann's Congressional Record 'Nonexistent'
Published July 10, 2011
FoxNews.com

In this July 7 photo, Republican presidential candidate Tim Pawlenty speaks in Urbandale, Iowa.

Presidential candidate Tim Pawlenty, taking the gloves off, said Sunday that fellow Minnesotan Michele Bachmann's record is "nonexistent."

Pawlenty's tough comments come as he faces mounting questions about the viability of his campaign. The former Minnesota governor is trailing far behind his competitors in the polls, with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney typically leading and Michele Bachmann, a Minnesota congresswoman, catching up to him.

Bachmann is touting her Iowa roots as she makes a big play for voters ahead of the leadoff Iowa caucuses and, before that, a key straw poll. With Pawlenty likewise staking much of his success on Iowa, the ex-governor argued that voters should square his record against Bachmann's.

"I like Congresswoman Bachmann. I've campaigned for her, I respect her. But her record of accomplishment in Congress is nonexistent," he told NBC's "Meet the Press." "We're not looking for folks who just have speech capabilities. We're looking for people who can lead a large enterprise in a public setting. ... I've done that, she hasn't."

Bachmann, a former state legislator and tax attorney, is serving her third term in Congress. The Tea Party-aligned lawmaker has surged since entering the race for president last month.

FoxNews.com is seeking a response from the Bachmann campaign to Pawlenty's comments.

Pawlenty acknowledged he wants to see "significant progress" in his own numbers in the upcoming Iowa Straw Poll next month. But he expressed confidence in his ability to recover and downplayed his standing in recent polls.

"Rudy Giuliani would be president or Hillary Clinton would be president or Howard Dean would be president if these early polls meant anything," Pawlenty said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/10/pawlenty-bachmanns-congressional-record-non-existent/
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: 240 is Back on July 10, 2011, 04:46:51 PM
Pawlenty: Bachmann's Congressional Record 'Nonexistent'
"I like Congresswoman Bachmann. I've campaigned for her, I respect her. But her record of accomplishment in Congress is nonexistent," he told NBC's "Meet the Press." "We're not looking for folks who just have speech capabilities. We're looking for people who can lead a large enterprise in a public setting. ... I've done that, she hasn't."

he's not wrong here.  She voted present plenty of times and has never had a bill passed in all that time.
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on July 11, 2011, 08:56:48 PM
Pawlenty punts on homosexuality
By: CNN Associate Producer Gabriella Schwarz

(CNN) – Republican presidential candidate Tim Pawlenty said Sunday he remained uncertain over whether homosexuality is biological or a choice.

“As I understand the science, there’s no current conclusion that it’s genetic,” Pawlenty said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

Saying he preferred to “defer to the scientists” about the issue, the former Minnesota governor said it was unclear if being gay or lesbian was a lifestyle choice.

“There’s no scientific conclusion that it's genetic. We don't know that. So, we don't know to what extent it's behavioral,” Pawlenty said. “That's something that has been debated by scientists for a long time.”

He used the questioning as an opportunity to again describe his views opposing the legalization of gay marriage.

“I'm a supporter of traditional marriage between a man and a woman,” Pawlenty said. “I have not supported the issues of allowing gay couples to have the same benefits in public employment as traditional couples.”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/10/pawlenty-punts-on-homosexuality/#more-166801
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 11, 2011, 09:17:37 PM
Going nowhere. 
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on August 06, 2011, 12:52:16 AM
Getting called out by the wife?   :-[

Pawlenty's wife: He must show 'significant progress'
By: CNN Political Producer Rachel Streitfeld

Nashua, New Hampshire (CNN) - Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty must do well in an upcoming Iowa straw poll, his wife said Tuesday, telling CNN she is "cautiously optimistic" about his prospects in that contest.

"He needs to move from where he's been and show significant progress, but I'm reasonably confident we're going to see that good progress," said Mary Pawlenty of her husband's chances in the Ames straw poll August 13th.

For weeks the Republican candidate has spent precious time and campaign dollars shoring up support in Iowa in advance of the straw poll, an event which draws heavy media attention and could be a game changer in the former governor's efforts to secure the GOP nomination.
Meanwhile Mrs. Pawlenty, a former Minnesota district judge whose role on the bench kept her from campaigning in her husband's gubernatorial campaigns, took on the role of political spouse in New Hampshire this week at events with voters.

At a tour of a new YMCA facility in Nashua, Pawlenty raved about the giant swimming pool and a locker room designed for parents with small children. Watching a row of joggers sweating on treadmills, the lithe former judge said ruefully that she needed to spend more time at the gym.
Mrs. Pawlenty also spent time meeting with local GOP heavy hitters about her husband's 2012 effort.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/02/pawlentys-wife-he-must-show-significant-progress/#more-169863
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on August 13, 2011, 04:28:51 PM
He should quit. 

Mike Huckabee Encourages Tim Pawlenty To Stay In Race No Matter What
Posted: 8/13/11

AMES, IOWA -- Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee handicapped the Ames Straw Poll before the results were announced on Saturday.

The Huffington Post asked what it would mean for Tim Pawlenty if he doesn't do well in the event.

"Whoever of the two Minnesotans comes out on top," he said, referring to Pawlenty and Michele Bachmann, "they come out of here on the shoulders of their teammates. The other one may go out on a gurney."

"It may be that some people are a little more positioned and are going to stay in and some who decide that their donor base is going to dry up," he said.

But, he advised Pawlenty to stay in the race.

"A lot of things can happen. A person can go out and say one thing that gets blown up. So part of it is just staying on your feet. It's going the distance," Huckabee said. "And so even if Pawlenty doesn't do well here today, the question is does he have enough support, and has he streamlined his operation to the level that no matter what the results are he can stay on his feet and keep fighting, because it could be that a couple of the candidates in front of him stumble, fall and have to be hauled off. And if that happens, the only way you can lose at that point is not be on the track."

As for Rick Perry, Huckabee said that he is about to come under much harsher scrutiny than he has so far received.

"Candidates don't get the hard questions prior to getting in. They get them the day after. I've always said the best day of your life is the day before you announce. God help you after that," Huckabee said.

But, Huckabee said, those who think Perry will come into the race and be able to knock Romney off his game easily are mistaken.

"The question may be what will Romney do to Perry. The one thing Romney's got going for him is it's not his first rodeo," Huckabee said.

Notice that Huckabee, who does not like Romney, said "the one thing." He continued, and said of Romney, "He's been on the back of the bull before and it's a bruising experience, and he has the advantage of having ridden it for a while."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/13/mike-huckabee-tim-pawlenty_n_926283.html
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: Dos Equis on August 14, 2011, 01:20:00 PM
I guess most Minnesota voters were right. 

Pawlenty drops out of presidential race
From Peter Hamby, CNN
August 14, 2011

Ames, Iowa (CNN) -- Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty abandoned his bid for the GOP presidential nomination on Sunday after a disappointing finish in the Ames Straw Poll in Iowa.

"We needed a boost from Ames that didn't happen," Pawlenty told staff on a conference call Sunday morning, CNN learned.
Speaking to ABC's "This Week," Pawlenty said his campaign needed a lift in the straw poll.

"The pathway forward for me doesn't really exist and so we're going to end the campaign," he said.

Pawlenty finished a distant third in the poll, behind Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann and Texas Rep. Ron Paul.

Pawlenty's message Sunday was the opposite of the one he offered after the results of the straw poll came out Saturday.
"Congrats to Rep. Bachmann on her win. Our campaign needed to show progress and we did. I'm eager for the campaign ahead," he tweeted Saturday evening.

Asked by "This Week" whether he would be interested in being a vice presidential contender, Pawlenty responded, "That's not something I'm even going to consider."

Pawlenty said he might endorse a candidate down the road.

Bachmann told ABC, "I wish him well. I have great respect for the governor. We've known each other for a long, long time. And he brought a really important voice into this race. And I'm grateful that he was in. He was a -- really a very good competitor."

Six Republican presidential hopefuls on Saturday personally appealed for votes in the poll in Iowa, the first state to hold a presidential nominating contest. Results in the Iowa caucuses set a tone for the national race.

Bachmann secured 4,823 votes, narrowly besting Paul, who had 4,671 votes. Pawlenty was chosen on 2,293 ballots.
The next closest contenders were: former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum with 1,657 votes, businessman Herman Cain with 1,456 votes, and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney with 567 votes. That was slightly less than the 718 who wrote in the name of Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who declared his candidacy Saturday and wasn't even on the ballot.

Nine announced candidates were on the Iowa ballot, although two of them -- Romney and former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman -- skipped the contest. Huntsman is avoiding the Iowa caucuses completely, while Romney's advisers are carefully watching the state and could pounce in the coming months if they see an opening.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was on the ballot, but his cash-strapped campaign did not have a formal presence at the straw poll and he only got 385 votes.

Casualties of the straw poll are nothing new to presidential politics.

In 2007, Former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson dropped out the day after placing sixty in the poll.

In 1999, former Tennessee Gov. Lamar Alexander dropped out two days after his sixth place showing, and Vice President Dan Quayle dropped out 13 days after his eight place showing.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/08/14/pawlenty/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Title: Re: Poll: Most Minnesota Voters Don't Want to See Pawlenty as President
Post by: chadstallion on August 15, 2011, 08:07:00 AM
Newt and Rick 'wash-your-hands-if-you-get' Santorum will be the next two.