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I grew up broke as fuck so I know what its like. I always keep extra dollars in my wallet and each week when I see people with signs I give them the money. Why? 1. It makes me feel good. 2. A person is in need and those 1 or 2 dollars will make a bigger difference to them then it will for me.
I know there are scammers out there but that's not for me to judge.
What are your views on poor people domestically?
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I don't put much thought into poor adults, Most are fat, lazy, and douchey. (some are cool as fuck obviously and just victims of circumstance)
The only thing that bothers me about poor people is that the mutherfuckers can't quit reproducing. There isn't much that's more heart breaking than seeing a kid growing up with poor as fuck parents who shouldn't have had kids, and aren't even smart enough to teach them anything. I grew up with an alcoholic mother and I was the poor kid in class. Holy shit theres nothing worse. I remember just wanting to have a can of pepsi and I was almost scolded for having asked. Poor adults can deal with shit, kids have no choice and suffer. There should be financial requirement for having kids.
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I don't put much thought into poor adults, Most are fat, lazy, and douchey. (some are cool as fuck obviously and just victims of circumstance)
The only thing that bothers me about poor people is that the mutherfuckers can't quit reproducing. There isn't much that's more heart breaking than seeing a kid growing up with poor as fuck parents who shouldn't have had kids, and aren't even smart enough to teach them anything. I grew up with an alcoholic mother and I was the poor kid in class. Holy shit theres nothing worse. I remember just wanting to have a can of pepsi and I was almost scolded for having asked. Poor adults can deal with shit, kids have no choice and suffer. There should be financial requirement for having kids.
totally agree.
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I don't put much thought into poor adults, Most are fat, lazy, and douchey. (some are cool as fuck obviously and just victims of circumstance)
The only thing that bothers me about poor people is that the mutherfuckers can't quit reproducing. There isn't much that's more heart breaking than seeing a kid growing up with poor as fuck parents who shouldn't have had kids, and aren't even smart enough to teach them anything. I grew up with an alcoholic mother and I was the poor kid in class. Holy shit theres nothing worse. I remember just wanting to have a can of pepsi and I was almost scolded for having asked. Poor adults can deal with shit, kids have no choice and suffer. There should be financial requirement for having kids.
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I don't put much thought into poor adults, Most are fat, lazy, and douchey. (some are cool as fuck obviously and just victims of circumstance)
The only thing that bothers me about poor people is that the mutherfuckers can't quit reproducing. There isn't much that's more heart breaking than seeing a kid growing up with poor as fuck parents who shouldn't have had kids, and aren't even smart enough to teach them anything. I grew up with an alcoholic mother and I was the poor kid in class. Holy shit theres nothing worse. I remember just wanting to have a can of pepsi and I was almost scolded for having asked. Poor adults can deal with shit, kids have no choice and suffer. There should be financial requirement for having kids.
ALL I WANTED WAS A PEPSI. JUST ONE PEPSI.
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I grew up broke as fuck so I know what its like. I always keep extra dollars in my wallet and each week when I see people with signs I give them the money. Why? 1. It makes me feel good. 2. A person is in need and those 1 or 2 dollars will make a bigger difference to them then it will for me.
I know there are scammers out there but that's not for me to judge.
What are your views on poor people domestically?
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I grew up broke as fuck so I know what its like. I always keep extra dollars in my wallet and each week when I see people with signs I give them the money. Why? 1. It makes me feel good. 2. A person is in need and those 1 or 2 dollars will make a bigger difference to them then it will for me.
I know there are scammers out there but that's not for me to judge.
What are your views on poor people domestically?
99% are scammers, drunks, or complete eff ups in the head. That 1% are the ones who don't beg and need the money, they tend to be too proud to do so.
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I grew up broke as fuck so I know what its like. I always keep extra dollars in my wallet and each week when I see people with signs I give them the money. Why? 1. It makes me feel good. 2. A person is in need and those 1 or 2 dollars will make a bigger difference to them then it will for me.
I know there are scammers out there but that's not for me to judge.
What are your views on poor people domestically?
I grew up lower middle class I suppose. Although even if my childhood were to qualify me as being "poor" I was still richer than 90% of the world. So I do not feel sorry for the US or Canadian "poor" who are in fact among the richest 10% of people on the planet. If they are able-bodied, I especially can't feel sorry for them. And even my friend who has a disability mainly worries about getting money for coffee and cigarettes. So how "poor" are these people? Not very.
Wiggs, you should start reading the works of this man if you haven't already:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell010500.asp
No government of the left has done as much for the poor as capitalism has. Even when it comes to the redistribution of income, the left talks the talk but the free market walks the walk.
What do the poor most need? They need to stop being poor. And how can that be done, on a mass scale, except by an economy that creates more wealth?
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell082107.php3
Despite whatever the left may say, or even believe, about their concern for the poor, their actual behavior shows their interest in the poor to be greatest when the poor can be used as a focus of the left's denunciations of society.
When the poor stop being poor, they lose the attention of the left. What actions on the part of the poor, or what changes in the economy, have led to drastic reductions in poverty seldom arouse much curiosity, much less celebration.
^^ See, the political left doesn't give a shit about the poor when they are no longer poor. Leftists hate poor people who later become rich, but why? I thought the goal of leftist's was for people to no longer be poor. ::) The left only cares about the poor insofar as they can use them as examples of why they hate society and society is "bad" and in need of fixing.
"There is much discussion of the haves and the have-nots, but very little discussion of the doers and the do-nots, those who contribute and those who merely take." - Thomas Sowell
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I grew up lower middle class I suppose. Although even if my childhood were to qualify me as being "poor" I was still richer than 90% of the world. So I do not feel sorry for the US or Canadian "poor" who are in fact among the richest 10% of people on the planet. If they are able-bodied, I especially can't feel sorry for them. And even my friend who has a disability mainly worries about getting money for coffee and cigarettes. So how "poor" are these people? Not very.
Wiggs, you should start reading the works of this man if you haven't already:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell010500.asp
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell082107.php3
^^ See, the political left doesn't give a shit about the poor when they are no longer poor. Leftists hate poor people who later become rich, but why? I thought the goal of leftist's was for people to no longer be poor. ::) The left only cares about the poor insofar as they can use them as examples of why they hate society and society is "bad" and in need of fixing.
"There is much discussion of the haves and the have-nots, but very little discussion of the doers and the do-nots, those who contribute and those who merely take." - Thomas Sowell
Well, if one stops being poor, then one doesn't need help correct? So, it's not a matter of the left not caring about the poor once they get rich, its a matter of "the squeaky wheel gets the grease"
If you have 10 kids in a classroom and 3 are failing, if there is a concern, is it concern for the 70% of the class that is doing well, or the 30% that isn't? And will more priorit be put on that 30%? Now, if it become 20%, that 1 child that got his grade up to passing, or excellent, will there be more priority on him, or that other 20%?
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Well, if one stops being poor, then one doesn't need help correct? So, it's not a matter of the left not caring about the poor once they get rich, its a matter of "the squeaky wheel gets the grease"
If you have 10 kids in a classroom and 3 are failing, if there is a concern, is it concern for the 70% of the class that is doing well, or the 30% that isn't? And will more priorit be put on that 30%? Now, if it become 20%, that 1 child that got his grade up to passing, or excellent, will there be more priority on him, or that other 20%?
That's true. It's just that the left never talks about upward class mobility which is not a myth and can be observed. You don't here them talking much about the improvements the former poor have made, such as people like Wiggs and I and there are many more. And by the way, as a child, I defined poor as having an Atari and not a Nintendo. ::)
99% are scammers, drunks, or complete eff ups in the head. That 1% are the ones who don't beg and need the money, they tend to be too proud to do so.
From my experience I would have to agree with this.
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Well redistribution of wealth is a joke
Over here the unemployed (and unemployable) have a better standard of living than workers
Free houses, free medical care and medicine, free public transport passes, etc
Its an absolute joke
When I become President of Ireland I will pass a law that if somebody hasnt worked 50% (and thats being generous) of their adult life then every single one of their benefits will be cut
On a good note one of my best mates is 3rd in command of our city's social welfare system and acts the prick with these losers everyday
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good to know that if a person hits really hard times and has to resort to holding up a sign he'll be taken for a scammer ::)
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Well redistribution of wealth is a joke
Over here the unemployed (and unemployable) have a better standard of living than workers
Free houses, free medical care and medicine, free public transport passes, etc
Its an absolute joke
Well then they should man up and stop working and send a message. Fucking sheep.
When I become President of Ireland I will pass a law that if somebody hasnt worked 50% (and thats being generous) of their adult life then every single one of their benefits will be cut
On a good note one of my best mates is 3rd in command of our city's social welfare system and acts the prick with these losers everyday
You know that if people don't have money they resort to crime. That would cost you big time.
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good to know that if a person hits really hard times and has to resort to holding up a sign he'll be taken for a scammer ::)
You mean a "Why lie, I need a beer" sign? It had gotten so bad in the Annapolis area that they banned panhandling. Some people even had certain "corners" and would fight each other for them. One time, I'm not aking this up, a dude pulled up in a shiny new truck and got into a fight with another panhandler---dude was on the other guy's corner, thus cutting into his funds.
Some people would have their family members out there...
I see my fair share of homeless and beggars, the ones who need the money, will not ask because they are too prideful. The drug addicts, drunks, greedy mofos, deranged lunatics, are the ones who you see on the streets begging like its no tomorrow. And then, you have the people who wish to remain homeless. No care, no worries, no bills.
When you see the amount of food we waste and throw away, that is huge meal for them. Go to McDonald's just before 10:30 am, which is when they stop serving breakfast. Watch them throw out all the breakfast food---if you are nice, they might give a free sasauge biscuit, it was gonna be thrown out any way...
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You mean a "Why lie, I need a beer" sign? It had gotten so bad in the Annapolis area that they banned panhandling. Some people even had certain "corners" and would fight each other for them. One time, I'm not aking this up, a dude pulled up in a shiny new truck and got into a fight with another panhandler---dude was on the other guy's corner, thus cutting into his funds.
Some people would have their family members out there...
I see my fair share of homeless and beggars, the ones who need the money, will not ask because they are too prideful. The drug addicts, drunks, greedy mofos, deranged lunatics, are the ones who you see on the streets begging like its no tomorrow. And then, you have the people who wish to remain homeless. No care, no worries, no bills.
When you see the amount of food we waste and throw away, that is huge meal for them. Go to McDonald's just before 10:30 am, which is when they stop serving breakfast. Watch them throw out all the breakfast food---if you are nice, they might give a free sasauge biscuit, it was gonna be thrown out any way...
no, I know there are plenty of those types out there. That's not why I made that post. The point is that even the lowest of holding a sign up for work or aid isn't an option now because of the perception.
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I always give to the older ones.
The younger punks with the dogs and the shitty clothes get zero - annoying scum.
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Well redistribution of wealth is a joke
Exactly.
good to know that if a person hits really hard times and has to resort to holding up a sign he'll be taken for a scammer ::)
You sound like a rich liberal who lives in a gated community and has this romantic notion of the poor as if they are all struggling and the victims of "society" yet chooses to live nowhere near them. ;D I hate those kind of liberals, total hypocrites. They opine about climate change will sipping on a latte.
My point is that most poor people are scum.
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My point is that most poor people are scum.
You never cease to fucking amaze me!!!!!!!
I bet you would fold up like a bitch if you had a tough day.
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Well then they should man up and stop working and send a message. Fucking sheep.
You know that if people don't have money they resort to crime. That would cost you big time.
No, I will deport ALL illegal immigrants
I dont know about USA but here a Nigerian or Rumanian can live here 5, 6, 7years while the goverment decide if they can stay or not
By then their mini-refugees are in school etc so its rare the spongers get deported
And if they do get a deportation order they can take it to the high court here, costing taxpayers millions
So my solution: They come here, put in a holding cell for 3weeks then their fate is decided, in or out, no fucking about
As regards crime rate rising well the police will be given extra power
After serious beatings at the hands of cops the scum will halt their fuck-acting
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Exactly.
You sound like a rich liberal who lives in a gated community and has this romantic notion of the poor as if they are all struggling and the victims of "society" yet chooses to live nowhere near them. ;D I hate those kind of liberals, total hypocrites. They opine about climate change will sipping on a latte.
My point is that most poor people are scum.
Which kind do you like?
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In America there are only a few simple rules you must follow to pretty much guarantee that you won't be poor. That doesn't mean you will be rich and live a life of luxury but that you can support yourself and live a fairly comfortable middle class lifestyle. Finish high school, don't have kids before you are married, don't get addicted to drugs and/or alcohol, don't get in trouble with the law, get a job -- any job and stick with it (work hard, be on time, be responsible....).
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Regarding the last point on sticking with a job, on my plane trip over here when I left Cali and moved back to Hawaii I sat next to a man who I got to talking to. He was originally from Korea and when he arrived in the U.S. couldn't speak hardly any English. Got a job at Jack in the Box as a janitor. Eventually, as he learned to speak English got a job as a cashier and now 28 years later is a District Manager. He owns a home in Hawaii and San Francisco and makes a comfortable six figure salary. These kinds of stories are endless. America, though it has seen it's better days and I regretfully believe that are place as a super power is nearing it's end (50 years or so?) it's still, as of today, a land of opportunity for anybody that's willing to work hard and play by the rules.
BTW, the average home price in Hawaii is well over a half a million dollars. Just a single family home. No mansion or fancy digs.
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No, I will deport ALL illegal immigrants
I dont know about USA but here a Nigerian or Rumanian can live here 5, 6, 7years while the goverment decide if they can stay or not
By then their mini-refugees are in school etc so its rare the spongers get deported
And if they do get a deportation order they can take it to the high court here, costing taxpayers millions
So my solution: They come here, put in a holding cell for 3weeks then their fate is decided, in or out, no fucking about
As regards crime rate rising well the police will be given extra power
After serious beatings at the hands of cops the scum will halt their fuck-acting
in the end they'll add diversitiy, culture and mixtureed drinks to your lilly white drunken Guinness based society.
in the end...just a poor girl on a beach
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You never cease to fucking amaze me!!!!!!!
I bet you would fold up like a bitch if you had a tough day.
I think the difference between me and you Tim, is that I actually HAVE been through hard times and I actually HAVE been poor...not that there is anyone in Canada who I would personally consider poor. I spent 4.5 years in the army and met all sorts of people, people who YOU would have nothing to do with. And since graduating from university at age 23 I have been a landlord, and trust me, the vast majority of people who are down on their luck financially are that way due to their own poor decisions. We live in North America - There is NO excuse for being poor if you have a brain and working arms and legs.
Then there is you - How is life treating you in your 95% White gated community. Still out there fighting racism and classism I see. ::)
Tim, the champion of the poor! He just likes to live as far away from them as possible while he praises them. It's funny how Tim resents me calling the poor scum [not all are, just a disproportionate number of them, i.e., any able-bodied adult who is poor is most likely that way through their own bad decisions], meanwhile he lives nowhere near them! Talk about hypocrisy. Meanwhile I have had to suffer for much of my adult life due to poor people and their bad choices and here is Tim giving me shit! What nerve. Try being screwed out of rent by three tenants all in the same month and then tell me how great you think poor people are Tim.
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Exactly.
You sound like a rich liberal who lives in a gated community and has this romantic notion of the poor as if they are all struggling and the victims of "society" yet chooses to live nowhere near them. ;D I hate those kind of liberals, total hypocrites. They opine about climate change will sipping on a latte.
My point is that most poor people are scum.
lol, well ok then. just think of me as you're resident elite liberal scum ;D
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Which kind do you like?
Liberal Finance Minister Paul Martin's decisions turned out to be very good for Canada. I would have opposed some of his decisions on empirical grounds, but in hindsight they worked out very well. For example, by preventing Canada's banks from merging their assets to purchase US mortgage stocks before the mortgage bubble burst, Paul [inadvertently?] saved Canada's economy. The assets the bank had intended to purchase using their combined financial clout were toxic and were far overvalued. Much of Canada's economic stability can be attributed to this decision. Was it the right decision? In hindsight yes. But theoretically, it was not a good decision and I do not feel that it was Paul Martin's right to tell private interest groups how to invest their private capital.
I won't go on about that, but the main point I am trying to make is that he made some very traditionally "liberal" moves which did truly help Canada's economy. He also cut the transfer payments to individual provinces which put Canada in a surplus but it should be noted that while Paul is a "liberal", cutting transfer payments is definitely a conservative initiative. That said, Paul did make "liberal" decisions which definitely helped Canada.
lol, well ok then. just think of me as you're resident elite liberal scum ;D
In the UK, they are referred to as "champagne socialists". ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_socialist
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Well redistribution of wealth is a joke
Over here the unemployed (and unemployable) have a better standard of living than workers
Free houses, free medical care and medicine, free public transport passes, etc
Its an absolute joke
When I become President of Ireland I will pass a law that if somebody hasnt worked 50% (and thats being generous) of their adult life then every single one of their benefits will be cut
On a good note one of my best mates is 3rd in command of our city's social welfare system and acts the prick with these losers everyday
The problem is that half these cunts have been out of work for so long that they are virtually unemployable. Who would want to hire someone that is in their late twenties/early thirties with little or no employment history?
A mate I went to school with told me recently that he was happy to stay on the dole, as due to tax credits and his missus working a part time job they are better off than when he was working fulltime and doing overtime. I wanted to punch him in his sponging face.
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in the end they'll add diversitiy, culture and mixtureed drinks to your lilly white drunken Guinness based society.
in the end...just a poor girl on a beach
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This is my arguement...Why must we take in Nigeria's and Rumania's scum? We have enough of our own
Non-nationals that are able and willing to work will be allowed in, Chinese for instance (they all want to work)
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Poor people are great...I like to put a fishing line through a $20.00 bill and drop it on a sidewalk near some homeless bum.when he reaches for it I pull it away.
...fun times :)
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This is my arguement...Why must we take in Nigeria's and Rumania's scum? We have enough of our own
Non-nationals that are able and willing to work will be allowed in, Chinese for instance (they all want to work)
i'm not sure what the situation is in Ireland but i find it hard to believe that all Romanians and Africans are freeloaders, and the Chinese are God's chosen Immigrants. in fact i would think they'd make good blue collar labor pool like poor mexicans migrating to the states. everything i have read depicts Ireland a great culturally diverse place to immigrate since your catholic and protestant troubled days.
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I'm just sick of the pieces of shit you see at the grocery store who have their cart loaded up with tbone steaks, crab legs, candy and loads of non essential shit and they pay for it with their fucking food stamp card. Then they pull out a wad of cash and buy a carton of newports. Saw a guy pissed off the other day because he couldn't use his ebt card to get a monster energy drink ???
Liberalism in its finest. The system is set up for, and encourages, them to do exactly that. If they were to somehow be accountable, that would lead to getting a steady income stream, which means getting off welfare and no longer being a guaranteed vote.
How can any responsible American man be a democrat in society now a days. Mine as well cut your fucken balls off and give half of everything you have to the peice of shit down the street slinging crack.
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I'm just sick of the pieces of shit you see at the grocery store who have their cart loaded up with tbone steaks, crab legs, candy and loads of non essential shit and they pay for it with their fucking food stamp card. Then they pull out a wad of cash and buy a carton of newports. Saw a guy pissed off the other day because he couldn't use his ebt card to get a monster energy drink ???
Liberalism in its finest. The system is set up for, and encourages, them to do exactly that. If they were to somehow be accountable, that would lead to getting a steady income stream, which means getting off welfare and no longer being a guaranteed vote.
How can any responsible American man be a democrat in society now a days. Mine as well cut your fucken balls off and give half of everything you have to the peice of shit down the street slinging crack.
foreigners and immigrants....here we have the over exaggerating north american:
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You see It everyday. I work 60 hours a week and I'm just scraping bye. The illegal mexican down the street gets welfare, free healthcare , and on top of that works under the table. He sends a huge chunk of his money back to mexico takeing it out of our economy.
And then you see the ghetto fabulous 20 somethings who pull up to the store in brand new suv. They're on fucking food stamps, are you fucking kidding me. These people should be taken out into the streets and tard and feathered. I'm sick of it and so should everybody else. But the bleeding heart liberals don't give a fuck. They want votes. They want to keep these people down and out. It's the big lie that they actually care more for these people.
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You see It everyday. I work 60 hours a week and I'm just scraping bye. The illegal mexican down the street gets welfare, free healthcare , and on top of that works under the table. He sends a huge chunk of his money back to mexico takeing it out of our economy.
And then you see the ghetto fabulous 20 somethings who pull up to the store in brand new suv. They're on fucking food stamps, are you fucking kidding me. These people should be taken out into the streets and tard and feathered. I'm sick of it and so should everybody else. But the bleeding heart liberals don't give a fuck. They want votes. They want to keep these people down and out. It's the big lie that they actually care more for these people.
How do you manage that? ???
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Poor people are great...I like to put a fishing line through a $20.00 bill and drop it on a sidewalk near some homeless bum.when he reaches for it I pull it away.
...fun times :)
When they ask me "got any spare change, mister?": I like to stop, reach into my pocket, jingle the change and then say "Yes, plenty. Thanks". I then walk off in a jaunty manner.
It never fails to raise a smile on their grubby, malnourished little face.
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You see It everyday. I work 60 hours a week and I'm just scraping bye. The illegal mexican down the street gets welfare, free healthcare , and on top of that works under the table. He sends a huge chunk of his money back to mexico takeing it out of our economy.
And then you see the ghetto fabulous 20 somethings who pull up to the store in brand new suv. They're on fucking food stamps, are you fucking kidding me. These people should be taken out into the streets and tard and feathered. I'm sick of it and so should everybody else. But the bleeding heart liberals don't give a fuck. They want votes. They want to keep these people down and out. It's the big lie that they actually care more for these people.
mexicans will live 3-4 families a household to move ahead. i dont know when it became illegal for a person to have an automobile and still get govt assistance. if i'm correct...people can still earn an income while they are being moved out the system...but of course...there are cheats. white collar cheats are more dangerous. mexicans will only add to the diversity of north america. it's just a faster and greater (population) rate than anyone expected.
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the new north american beauty standard....we're going retro. the grandchildren of the native indians are returning.
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How do you manage that? ???
I'm not makeing that much. Im 26 years old I haven't found a good career yet. Im college educated the job market it tough right now. Bills are expensive and rent is expensive.
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Some need it, most don't. As you say. Who am I to decide. I used to pass this homeless man and gave him food as I passed each day. He was truly grateful and was thankful for the meal. Once homeless guy asked for money. I told him that if he was hungry I would buy him a sandwich. he said no and got mad. I then pushed him to tell me what he wanted the money for and if he was honest that he would get $5, but if he lied he'd get nothing. He then admitted it was for liquor. I never gave him a penny.
There was this true story in San Diego years ago. A homeless guy would stand at one of the busiest intersections begging for money. Later that day a guy too photos of him going to the Washington Mutual bank and depositing a huge wad of money, it was a drug dealer type of wad. The photographer spoke to the teller and she says that he makes about 2-3 cash deposits a day!
So it's hard to tell who needs it and who doesn't.
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Seriously, how "open-minded" must one be to believe these people aren't simply freeloading off hard working Americans? No family or friends to help? No unemployment, no government or charity-based programs? Really?
If it makes you feel good to give, fine. But you're not helping in the true sense of the word - please be honest about this. Alcohol and drugs, that is all.
Exceptions: Mentally ill, but blame "advocates" here. They decided forced help (i.e., treatment and medication) is a violation of civil rights.
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tard and feathered
:D
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Matt,I was one of a few white people that lived in a black ghetto as a kid..........lived there for over 25 years and hung on the streets all my life.
I`ve met a ton of homelss people as I`ve been there myself.
Overcame alcoholism,drug addiction,poverty,emotional/mental problems,etc. etc.
You have no fucking clue who I am or what I`ve done son,you only know what I`ve posted on the internet.
I can tell you stories that would literally curl your fucking hair.
You sir wouldn`t have lasted one minute during any part of my life, including any workout you chose to do.
Matt,I think people stiff you on rent because you are a preppy nerd who has a stick up his ass! :)
I`d laugh at what you would consider a hard time.
I wrote the book on hard times pal !!
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I wrote the book on hard times pal !!
you tell em.
props to you for overcoming that. a lot of people would just use that as an excuse to not do much with their lives.
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I had to see if there were pictures of people tarred and feathered. Whoever came up with this is a cruel comedic genius.
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I could careless about others in society besides myself and my family. True getbigger fashion :-*
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I spent 4.5 "years" in the army reserves and met all sorts of people, people who YOU would have nothing to do with.
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Matt,I was one of a few white people that lived in a black ghetto as a kid..........lived there for over 25 years and hung on the streets all my life.
I`ve met a ton of homelss people as I`ve been there myself.
Overcame alcoholism,drug addiction,poverty,emotional/mental problems,etc. etc.
You have no fucking clue who I am or what I`ve done son,you only know what I`ve posted on the internet.
I can tell you stories that would literally curl your fucking hair.
You sir wouldn`t have lasted one minute during any part of my life, including any workout you chose to do.
Matt,I think people stiff you on rent because you are a preppy nerd who has a stick up his ass! :)
I`d laugh at what you would consider a hard time.
I wrote the book on hard times pal !!
Respect.
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Matt,I was one of a few white people that lived in a black ghetto as a kid..........lived there for over 25 years and hung on the streets all my life.
I`ve met a ton of homelss people as I`ve been there myself.
Overcame alcoholism,drug addiction,poverty,emotional/mental problems,etc. etc.
You have no fucking clue who I am or what I`ve done son,you only know what I`ve posted on the internet.
I can tell you stories that would literally curl your fucking hair.
You sir wouldn`t have lasted one minute during any part of my life, including any workout you chose to do.
Matt,I think people stiff you on rent because you are a preppy nerd who has a stick up his ass! :)
I`d laugh at what you would consider a hard time.
I wrote the book on hard times pal !!
lol talk about backfiring for matt.
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Thanks guys!!
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Matt,I was one of a few white people that lived in a black ghetto as a kid..........lived there for over 25 years and hung on the streets all my life.
I`ve met a ton of homelss people as I`ve been there myself.
Overcame alcoholism,drug addiction,poverty,emotional/mental problems,etc. etc.
You have no fucking clue who I am or what I`ve done son,you only know what I`ve posted on the internet.
I can tell you stories that would literally curl your fucking hair.
You sir wouldn`t have lasted one minute during any part of my life, including any workout you chose to do.
Matt,I think people stiff you on rent because you are a preppy nerd who has a stick up his ass! :)
I`d laugh at what you would consider a hard time.
I wrote the book on hard times pal !!
HAHHA ,MattC is a fag
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MattC is the saviour of the white race... who will one day overthrow our Jewish masters and lead our downtrodden and oppressed people to the promised land (Thunder Bay, Canada).
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Matt,I was one of a few white people that lived in a black ghetto as a kid..........lived there for over 25 years and hung on the streets all my life.
I`ve met a ton of homelss people as I`ve been there myself.
Overcame alcoholism,drug addiction,poverty,emotional/mental problems,etc. etc.
You have no fucking clue who I am or what I`ve done son,you only know what I`ve posted on the internet.
I can tell you stories that would literally curl your fucking hair.
You sir wouldn`t have lasted one minute during any part of my life, including any workout you chose to do.
Matt,I think people stiff you on rent because you are a preppy nerd who has a stick up his ass! :)
I`d laugh at what you would consider a hard time.
I wrote the book on hard times pal !!
I won't say I knew all that just from reading your posts, but a lot of it is obvious, especially from your way of seeing through a lot of BS and cutting to the core using plain old horse sense. That's something that only experience can deliver, not knowledge gained through books or proxy.
Props and mad respect, as always.
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Props and mad respect, as always.
Right back at ya` my friend!! ;)
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I know one thing.. Everyone falls on hard times every now and then. I see the panhandlers on the side of the street on my way to work. I don't usually give money to any of them if they look like they have all of their limbs. If they say they are a veteran I usually give them money. The ones that look fully capable of going look for work, I don't give them anything. I figure they could be looking for work all day long instead of begging for money. Capice....
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Wes' character is as solid as his muscular physique
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Wes' character is as solid as his muscular physique
Thanks bud!!
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mexicans will live 3-4 families a household to move ahead. i dont know when it became illegal for a person to have an automobile and still get govt assistance. if i'm correct...people can still earn an income while they are being moved out the system...but of course...there are cheats. white collar cheats are more dangerous. mexicans will only add to the diversity of north america. it's just a faster and greater (population) rate than anyone expected.
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the new north american beauty standard....we're going retro. the grandchildren of the native indians are returning.
She is so pretty!! But I doubt what you are saying is true.
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I'm just sick of the pieces of shit you see at the grocery store who have their cart loaded up with tbone steaks, crab legs, candy and loads of non essential shit and they pay for it with their fucking food stamp card. Then they pull out a wad of cash and buy a carton of newports. Saw a guy pissed off the other day because he couldn't use his ebt card to get a monster energy drink ???
Liberalism in its finest. The system is set up for, and encourages, them to do exactly that. If they were to somehow be accountable, that would lead to getting a steady income stream, which means getting off welfare and no longer being a guaranteed vote.
How can any responsible American man be a democrat in society now a days. Mine as well cut your fucken balls off and give half of everything you have to the peice of shit down the street slinging crack.
I totally agree with this. The USA is the land of milk and honey, at least as long as liberal initiatives don't continue to bankrupt it.
Poor people are great...I like to put a fishing line through a $20.00 bill and drop it on a sidewalk near some homeless bum.when he reaches for it I pull it away.
...fun times :)
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Matt,I was one of a few white people that lived in a black ghetto as a kid..........lived there for over 25 years and hung on the streets all my life.
I`ve met a ton of homelss people as I`ve been there myself.
Overcame alcoholism,drug addiction,poverty,emotional/mental problems,etc. etc.
You have no fucking clue who I am or what I`ve done son,you only know what I`ve posted on the internet.
I can tell you stories that would literally curl your fucking hair.
You sir wouldn`t have lasted one minute during any part of my life, including any workout you chose to do.
Matt,I think people stiff you on rent because you are a preppy nerd who has a stick up his ass! :)
I`d laugh at what you would consider a hard time.
I wrote the book on hard times pal !!
So why did you move out of the ghetto? I thought you love poor people? Sounds to me like you think the poor are not so great after all. If you thought that you wouldn't have fled the area. And if you were able to get over your hardships, why can't other people do the same? Lastly, you would have just as much trouble collecting rent from some of my former tenants. You can't get blood from a stone.
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She is so pretty!! But I doubt what you are saying is true.
ok...i exaggerated a bit but families per household is correct. several families were building extra walls in houses when i was in colorado springs and were caught. 2nd...mexicans migrating across the boarder are the grandchild of native indians. do a genetic analyst.
anyway...unsung's white men polluting the mexican bloodline was a classic. remember none of this is personal. it's just a message board.
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The average penalty for attempted murder in Canada is six years, with manslaughter being given six years at the high end. ::)
Tim, check this out:
http://www.chroniclejournal.com/top_story.php?id=212238
Garnet Jay Loon, 33, received a six-year sentence stemming from the Dec. 24, 2007 death of Jordan Achneepineskum.
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At Friday‘s hearing, Smith touched on Loon‘s unhappy life in remote native communities. After his parents began to abuse alcohol, Loon fell out with the family and began his own descent into intoxicants, starting at the age of nine.
Along with marital strife, he also ran afoul of the law and has been convicted of nearly 30 crimes of violence.
So tell me Tim, how poor must a person be before you give them permission to murder your wife?
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I grew up broke as fuck so I know what its like. I always keep extra dollars in my wallet and each week when I see people with signs I give them the money. Why? 1. It makes me feel good. 2. A person is in need and those 1 or 2 dollars will make a bigger difference to them then it will for me.
I know there are scammers out there but that's not for me to judge.
What are your views on poor people domestically?
high school is free in this country...so if u pay attention in HS you can make something of yourself....so i feel less for poor people in this country than say pakistan...where education is NOT free....
however...my parents have around 3 or 5...(something like that) homeless guys that show up at the gasstation everymorning and they have em do odd jobs for an hour or 2...clean the parking lot of ciggy butts...empty the trash etc...and give them $20 a piece...
every paycheck i get i give $50 to this one homeless guy everytime cause he is a vet....
and when i can i will buy homeless people alkie...good or bad..its not for me to judge...it makes their day better..
so i applaud you 8)
walk a mile in their shoes before u judge
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I`m not reading any of your bullshit links,articles,or cut and paste nonsense Matt........get some real life experience and grow the fuck up.
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Damn right......money comes and goes in the blink of an eye at times.
There but for the grace of God go I dear lord.
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Had a friend once who would keep a cardboard box filled with soups, crackers, etc... and give them to the homeless/panhandlers at redlights.....sadly, he said many of them turned them down. :-\
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The poor are people just like us
If we're talking panhandler "poor," I couldn't disagree more. We wouldn't waste quality job-seeking time begging for change, and we wouldn't be spending what he had on booze or drugs.
Day after day after day ...
People like us fall, we eventually get up again. These people don't want to get up. They can't be helped.
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I`m not reading any of your bullshit links,articles,or cut and paste nonsense Matt........get some real life experience and grow the fuck up.
That's always your response to me, something nonsensical like "I can't believe anyone listens to this guy!!!" or some other empty reply. You do nothing to refute what I'm saying with very little exception. On mayhem you may have been able to ban my account and I'm sure you miss having those powers. Oh well.
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There is an idea that poor upbringing circumstances perpetuate a cycle of poverty that's hard to break
I was raised comfortably so I don't have any first hand experience with this, but I'd like to hear from any of you guys that came from rough childhood circumstances and rose above them to become productive, economically comfortable members of society
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That's always your response to me, something nonsensical like "I can't believe anyone listens to this guy!!!" or some other empty reply. You do nothing to refute what I'm saying with very little exception. On mayhem you may have been able to ban my account and I'm sure you miss having those powers. Oh well.
It`s not my job or desire to refute your stupidity,and I never banned you ,so don`t go making shit up.
For someone who thinks they`re a genius,you`re pretty fucking stupid with the way you look at things,especially involving people that are different than you are.
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It's easy to feel secure while you have your riches, but in a moment they can vanish, and you could find yourself in the same situation as those that you seem to feel nothing for.
I just find it funny that the people in this thread who don't like the poor are the ones who seem to deal with them more than those who are praising the poor. I would never speak for all poor people but I can give you one recent example: The hydro payment office in my city is in the same building as the welfare office. Someone who works there stated outright that the overwhelming majority of people on welfare are able-bodied adults who are just leaching off the system. I don't even blame them so much as the holier than thou liberals who push for these welfare programs in the first place. Once in place, it's just natural that these programs will be abused.
Some say the poor stay poor. I guess this explains why my parents are millionaires now despite coming to Canada with nothing and living the early parts of their adult lives close to poverty. ::) Having been "poor" myself [Canadian poor anyway, which is still rich], I know that other people who are poor are just making excuses. I wasn't born into riches. Any able-bodied person here could have gone to university on scholarship and acquired multiple degrees and spent 10,000+ hours building a website business.
Society is like panning for gold: the scum end up on the bottom. Or as the old saying goes, the cream naturally rises to the top.
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some have fallen due to bad choices...others due to circumstance. how do you know what your breaking point would be? would it be the loss of your job? inability to find a new one due to economic conditions? A failed marriage? the death of a father, mother, or child?
you dont really know these people, and you dont know WHY they may not be able to "get up" as you put it...or even "want to". life can be very hard.
Most aren't unique Lifetime movies-of-the-week-type tragedies, I'm afraid. Most are just chronically bad deciders. You see it enough times, you stop making excuses for em.
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Shit happens sometimes which makes a persons life hard,but the hardest part is getting over it and moving on to better things.
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It`s not my job or desire to refute your stupidity,and I never banned you ,so don`t go making shit up.
For someone who thinks they`re a genius,you`re pretty fucking stupid with the way you look at things,especially involving people that are different than you are.
I don't think I'm a genius. I was the top high school math student in Canada in both grades 11 and 12 [although it's just high school I think it's still a good achievement]. I consider myself to be a pretty sharp guy.
http://tiny.cc/a7acr
Life is not hard for me because I'm smart enough to make my life easy. It wasn't handed to me. My father was a seasonally employed construction worker and my mother was a homemaker. The household income would have been $30,000 a year on a good year and in most cases, a whole lot less. My parents both had rough childhoods that I can't get into because I don't feel it is my business to share. My friend's mother lost her uncle and grandmother in WWII and both her parents were taken to work camps. She is doing fine now and has two healthy and functional adult sons.
NO EXCUSES.
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Most aren't unique Lifetime movies-of-the-week-type tragedies, I'm afraid. Most are just chronically bad deciders. You see it enough times, you stop making excuses for em.
Exactly!!!
What's with this romantic view of the poor? Yes, some are truly down on their luck, but can someone explain to me how a person who gets literally $3,000 a month in government assistance and drinks it all away is somehow the victim of "society". He's the victim of his own shit genetics, plain and simple!
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Well then they should man up and stop working and send a message. Fucking sheep.
You know that if people don't have money they resort to crime. That would cost you big time.
excellent post..
unfortunately those who whine and complain about the poor and unemployed either have never tried to live on benefits, or have an overly simplistic view of the problem.- like assuming people are lazy and dont want to work.
i assure you that whatever percentage of those who actually like living on benefits is very small, and is simply part of an overhead that a civilised society must deal with especially when it doesnt have enough work demand to match skills.
you want to fix unemployed?- then create enough jobs..not just positions, but tasks that require skills of those who cant find work..thats no easy proposition as businesses wont expand if they cant find employees, and vice versa.
and thats only the tip of the iceberg as far as the complexity of the problem.
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My father was a drunk who broke my mothers nose,knocked out her teeth, and beat the shit out of me and my two sisters a few times a week to stay in fighting condition.
I was programmed to duck/flinch when he walked by me whether he was drunk or sober.
Used to throw quart beer bottles at me when I was ten years old and smashed my forehead into a kitchen table at the age of 6.
We had much less money per year than you did.
If my uncle didn`t own the house we lived in I have no clue what we wouyld have done.
Some people are a product of their enviroment.........I used to be,but I knew I could do better so eventually after years of fucking up,I got my shit together.....no one looks down on me now and if they do,I tell them about themselves in a minute.
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I don't think I'm a genius. I was the top high school math student in Canada in both grades 11 and 12 [although it's just high school I think it's still a good achievement]. I consider myself to be a pretty sharp guy.
There is literally no chance of this being true unless you're exploiting some sort of massive semantic loophole
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Q: What's your view of the poor?
A: I view them from time-to-time when I venue down off the hill to purchase drugs. Why do you ask?
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My father was a drunk who broke my mothers nose,knocked out her teeth, and beat the shit out of me and my two sisters a few times a week to stay in fighting condition.
I was programmed to duck/flinch when he walked by me whether he was drunk or sober.
Used to throw quart beer bottles at me when I was ten years old and smashed my forehead into a kitchen table at the age of 6.
We had much less money per year than you did.
If my uncle didn`t own the house we lived in I have no clue what we wouyld have done.
Some people are a product of their enviroment.........I used to be,but I knew I could do better so eventually after years of fucking up,I got my shit together.....no one looks down on me now and if they do,I tell them about themselves in a minute.
Luxury! ;D
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LOL :)
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My father was a drunk who broke my mothers nose,knocked out her teeth, and beat the shit out of me and my two sisters a few times a week to stay in fighting condition.
I was programmed to duck/flinch when he walked by me whether he was drunk or sober.
Used to throw quart beer bottles at me when I was ten years old and smashed my forehead into a kitchen table at the age of 6.
We had much less money per year than you did.
If my uncle didn`t own the house we lived in I have no clue what we wouyld have done.
Some people are a product of their enviroment.........I used to be,but I knew I could do better so eventually after years of fucking up,I got my shit together.....no one looks down on me now and if they do,I tell them about themselves in a minute.
So if you could do it, why can't other people do it?
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So if you could do it, why can't other people do it?
I can`t speak for others.
I`m sure lots have recovered and lead productive lives............others,not a chance of changing.
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So if you could do it, why can't other people do it?
Are you that stupid ?
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My father was a drunk who broke my mothers nose,knocked out her teeth, and beat the shit out of me and my two sisters a few times a week to stay in fighting condition.
I was programmed to duck/flinch when he walked by me whether he was drunk or sober.
Used to throw quart beer bottles at me when I was ten years old and smashed my forehead into a kitchen table at the age of 6.
We had much less money per year than you did.
If my uncle didn`t own the house we lived in I have no clue what we wouyld have done.
Some people are a product of their enviroment.........I used to be,but I knew I could do better so eventually after years of fucking up,I got my shit together.....no one looks down on me now and if they do,I tell them about themselves in a minute.
damn that's terrible, as a father to a 2 year old daughter i cant even imagine giving her a light slap on the head. but using my own children as boxing sacks is just sickening . what made you change your lifestyle to the better if i mae ask?
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Are you that stupid ?
Yup !! :)
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Tito 24 on page 2 post a pic and no one made a comment, getbig members will always suprise me.
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damn that's terrible, as a father to a 2 year old daughter i cant even imagine giving her a light slap on the head. but using my own children as boxing sacks is just sickening . what made you change your lifestyle to the better if i mae ask?
To wear out an old cliche`,I just got tired of being sick and tired.
Another incident I had which was like a moment of clarity for me was when three really dirty scumball looking crackheads looked at me as if I was dogshit on their shoes...........that one was a real eye opener!!
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Tito 24 on page 2 post a pic and no one made a comment
Well, no poster is allowed to address him directly...
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I grew up broke as fuck so I know what its like. I always keep extra dollars in my wallet and each week when I see people with signs I give them the money. Why? 1. It makes me feel good. 2. A person is in need and those 1 or 2 dollars will make a bigger difference to them then it will for me.
I know there are scammers out there but that's not for me to judge.
What are your views on poor people domestically?
Donate to a homeless charity (http://www.shelter.org.uk/) straight out of my paycheck every month, which eases my conscience if I don't give money to everybody that asks.
Pay a ridiculous amount of tax (more than 50% of income), which I hope helps the poor to some extend.
On the street I tend to give to people who make en effort to help themselves, be it by performing sth, selling the homeless newspaper or who look like they are not likely to use it on alcohol or drugs.
I do not think that most poor people are lazy, many are "working poor", e.g. working one or more jobs that are lowly paid but still don't make enough money to live. Even in the social welfare states of Europe there are many good people falling through the cracks of the systems when they get struck by bad luck or some sort of emergency/tragedy, so I can only imagine how bad it must be Stateside where there is no support / healthcare / proper education etc. for the poor.
What makes me fume with anger (when I'm in the States) is seeing how they treat their war veterans. It tells you a lot about a country and its culture when they let people who were risking their lives for their country and came back with some form of disability (physical or mental) drift into poverty and homelessness.
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Meanwhile I have had to suffer for much of my adult life due to poor people and their bad choices and here is Tim giving me shit! What nerve. Try being screwed out of rent by three tenants all in the same month and then tell me how great you think poor people are Tim.
I had no idea that you were a slumlord Matt. If you are suffering because a few deadbeats skipped out on their rent, you must be overextended. You should diversify your real estate holdings. Ever thought of investing in commercial real estate?
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Are you that stupid ?
rhetorical.
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I grew up broke as fuck so I know what its like. I always keep extra dollars in my wallet and each week when I see people with signs I give them the money. Why? 1. It makes me feel good. 2. A person is in need and those 1 or 2 dollars will make a bigger difference to them then it will for me.
I know there are scammers out there but that's not for me to judge.
What are your views on poor people domestically?
depends if they are the working poor or the live off the gov't poor, I respect the 1st, would love to gas the last.
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There is literally no chance of this being true unless you're exploiting some sort of massive semantic loophole
In the sense that there is no formal award given, you could say that I did not receive such an honour. But the school board made it clear to me that there was no one else they knew of in Northwestern Ontario with a higher result, and an honest 100.0% is an honest 100.0%.
Q: What's your view of the poor?
A: I view them from time-to-time when I venue down off the hill to purchase drugs. Why do you ask?
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I can`t speak for others.
I`m sure lots have recovered and lead productive lives............others,not a chance of changing.
Well, let's just say that there is a difference between short-term poverty and long-term/chronic poverty. If everything you said about your past is true and you managed to recover, how can any able-bodied person not do the same? Are you saying they had it worse than you did?
People do go through temporary hard times but if you and Wiggs as well as others in this very thread went from being in poverty to being out of poverty, I see no reason why any other able-bodied person can't do it. I can only go based on my personal observations of people, but most people who I have met who are in chronic poverty are in that position due to poor long-term planning and poor decision-making. Surely not all, but most from what I have personally seen.
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In the USA, "Greatest Country in the World" ::) ::) there should be no homeless, etc!! Soooo much focus on foreign everything!! US folk are HIGH needs!! Total gov mismanagement!!
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I think most of us have no problem helping those truly in need. Elderly, disabled, mental health issues, children, but it does get really annoying watching all the people who take advantage of others and the system and act entitled to it. I have a friend who has worked the system for years. Doesn't work, gets every benefit you can imagine. He recently had gastric bypass surgery. I asked him how much it cost him. He told me it cost $27,000 but he didn't have to pay a cent cause between medicaid and medicare they paid for it all and he even said to me "isn't that cool."
Me like many others have been greatly affected by the economy. I can't even remember how many jobs I've had in the last 2+ years trying to find something steady to support my family. One thing i always find interesting about those who take advantage of everything, is they're the last ones to help anyone else out. Always a victims mentality, Always whats in it for me.
http://www.myfoxny.com/dpps/news/homeless-upset-about-mcdonalds-dollar-menu-increase-dpgoh-20100907-fc_9517802
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Im poor
whats your opinion of me
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Im poor
whats your opinion of me
wait, dont answer that
would you be interested in bumfights?
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would you be interested in bumfights?
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damn straight I would
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He has falconpunch type speed---I may be in over my head
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My view of the poor? It's simple. 99% of the time they're lazy, addicts, drunks, ... by their own doing. It does not take a rocket scientist to land a crappy job and be able to make rent in a shit hole apartment each month. I believe it's a CHOICE to be homeless unless you have some physical or mental disability. You can't convince me otherwise.
I live in Chicago and the only change that I give to homeless is to the guy who is missing limbs sitting in a wheelchair. Those guys have fewer options than able bodied men.
Look. My pops brought my family over here when I was 9. Not to sound cliche, but all he had was just a suitcase the first day in America. Since 1990 he has had a construction business and many rental properties with LOTS AND LOTS of dead beat piece of shiit tenants who WORK THE SYSTEM to live on my family's dime for fucccking free. If someone who does not even speak the fucccking language can come to a foreign country with nothing else other than work ethic and little amibtion then how the fuccck do you excuse people who were born here from not holding down a job and having basic necesseties like food and shelter and a job????
By working the system for deadbeat tenants, this is what I mean. I'm speaking just for Chicago. A tenant has to be 30 days delinquent on rent for the landlord to file eviction. (A tenant can live 1 month free) Then the landlord has to actually serve the delinquent tenant a 5 days notice. Which is pretty hard when the deadbeat knows the system and refuses to answer the door when the landlord keeps knocking. Then what you have to do is HIRE someone out of your own pocket to serve the papers to the delinquent tenant. ...then the real fun begins.
Once the sheriff receives your paperwork it can be fucccking months before the actual eviction happens. Why? Well, it's because the system is set up in favor of the piece of shiiit delinquents. If it rains, too windy, snows, ... sheriff will not come out to evict. Also here in Chicago there is always a huge number of evictions for the sheriff to serve before getting to yours. This post is from experience. I know this because it's happened to my pops numerous times.
What people don't fucccking understand is the landlord can't be a deadbeat to the mortgage company. Imagine going to Chase or Fannie Mae or wherever and saying "Umm...I don't have the money this month, give me a few weeks." Think of what would happen. Instant foreclosure! The tenants have rights to live free on somone else's dime while the eviction process plays out.
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He has falconpunch type speed---I may be in over my head
yes, that is grand master falcon...he has teched you falcon neegar the way of epic leanz!!!
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Just imagine if the people on here who crush the poor actually were able to make them disappear. In most cases, "they" would become the next POOR. Its a joke, the cycle can never end in this kind of society. Its a Jewish disease to keep wanting more IMDOP(in my dad's opinion)
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Americans have no idea what poor is.
The main trouble is that there is no penalty for being an idiot anymore since this belief that if you show up you deserve equal shit even without producing anything is rooted itself.
Example: say you want to learn a subject, in times past you would read 10 book on that subject. No one does any such thing now and if they do they usually end up a millionaire.
There are idiots making money doing jack adn we have government banks, and most 'private' banks are government too, so tons are sucking blood.
I am amazed that things are still so cheap.
Before the fed was esablished in 1913, and caused the great depression soon after in 20s, as governmetn banking always will....prices fell each year in USA. If you saved you gained. Now government steal those gains by counterfieting money.
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In the USA, "Greatest Country in the World" ::) ::) there should be no homeless, etc!! Soooo much focus on foreign everything!! US folk are HIGH needs!! Total gov mismanagement!!
I agree, but the US also does a tremendous amount of good for the world. I find that Canadians tend to overlook that the sum of their national defense is literally provided by the USA. For all the bad people talk about regarding the USA, I wish they would spend as much time focusing on the good. I wouldn't be sitting here right now on the computer if not for American technology and American capitalism.
Americans have no idea what poor is.
Exactly. Same with Canadians.
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My view of the poor? It's simple. 99% of the time they're lazy, addicts, drunks, ... by their own doing. It does not take a rocket scientist to land a crappy job and be able to make rent in a shit hole apartment each month. I believe it's a CHOICE to be homeless unless you have some physical or mental disability. You can't convince me otherwise.
I live in Chicago and the only change that I give to homeless is to the guy who is missing limbs sitting in a wheelchair. Those guys have fewer options than able bodied men.
Look. My pops brought my family over here when I was 9. Not to sound cliche, but all he had was just a suitcase the first day in America. Since 1990 he has had a construction business and many rental properties with LOTS AND LOTS of dead beat piece of shiit tenants who WORK THE SYSTEM to live on my family's dime for fucccking free. If someone who does not even speak the fucccking language can come to a foreign country with nothing else other than work ethic and little amibtion then how the fuccck do you excuse people who were born here from not holding down a job and having basic necesseties like food and shelter and a job????
By working the system for deadbeat tenants, this is what I mean. I'm speaking just for Chicago. A tenant has to be 30 days delinquent on rent for the landlord to file eviction. (A tenant can live 1 month free) Then the landlord has to actually serve the delinquent tenant a 5 days notice. Which is pretty hard when the deadbeat knows the system and refuses to answer the door when the landlord keeps knocking. Then what you have to do is HIRE someone out of your own pocket to serve the papers to the delinquent tenant. ...then the real fun begins.
Once the sheriff receives your paperwork it can be fucccking months before the actual eviction happens. Why? Well, it's because the system is set up in favor of the piece of shiiit delinquents. If it rains, too windy, snows, ... sheriff will not come out to evict. Also here in Chicago there is always a huge number of evictions for the sheriff to serve before getting to yours. This post is from experience. I know this because it's happened to my pops numerous times.
What people don't fucccking understand is the landlord can't be a deadbeat to the mortgage company. Imagine going to Chase or Fannie Mae or wherever and saying "Umm...I don't have the money this month, give me a few weeks." Think of what would happen. Instant foreclosure! The tenants have rights to live free on somone else's dime while the eviction process plays out.
I have several rentals in CA and am CONSTANTLY battling the deadbeats. Here it can literally take up to 6 months to get somebody gone, and during that time 95% of them will just absolutely destroy a place. The system is set up so that the renter has almost all the power, even if they have never paid a cent in months. Earlier this year I evicted a POS who's girlfriend paid the first month in cash (the deposit check bounced), then never paid another cent in 4 months. They have to be legally served, and like you said, all they have to do is not answer the door. You can post the eviction notice on the door but they all know to say they 'never got it for some reason'. This guy I watched rip it off the door when he thought I wasn't looking and then tell the sheriff he had 'no idea' he was being evicted when I called them out to get him a week later.
In my county in CA, they have to be at least 30 days late, be professionally served (at landlords expense) and then they have another 30 days before you can file a claim at the courthouse (at landlords expense). Aftr that, the court assigns a date for hearing (4 to 6 weeks). In my particular case I had to take a day off from work to go to the court date, only to have the shitbag call in and request a continuance an HOUR BEFORE THE COURT TIME, which was of coure, granted by the judge. The second and third court dates he didn't show up for, so the court assigned a date for the sheriff to stand by while we entered the property. Of course the deadbeat stayed in the property until the night before the cops came out, then disappeared and trashed the entire house. Like spray painted walls and kicked holes in every room, left literally TONS of trash, etc.
Also in CA if they do show up for court and they have kids or are complete welfare cases they can use the fact they will have a hard time finding other housing to persuade the judge to issue an injunction against a landlord evicting them, even if they don't pay the rent they agreed to. I had one crackhead woman with a little kid who paid a few months then stopped sending the check. I found out later the government was paying her rent, but she had arrainged the check to be sent to her mailbox, where she then forged my name and took the cash for drugs and booze. The court blocked me from evicting her for three and a half months because of the kid. I finally got rid of her after she was arrested on forgery and drug charges and the kid got sent to foster care... went in with a crew and threw all her shit into the alley and changed the locks. Never saw her again.
It's all a fvcking game with the lower classes.
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I grew up broke as fuck so I know what its like. I always keep extra dollars in my wallet and each week when I see people with signs I give them the money. Why? 1. It makes me feel good. 2. A person is in need and those 1 or 2 dollars will make a bigger difference to them then it will for me.
I know there are scammers out there but that's not for me to judge.
What are your views on poor people domestically?
they should shut down all the golf courses and put up housing for the homeless , take all the money these fat elitest pricks like tiger woods makes and give to the poor.
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I don't put much thought into poor adults, Most are fat, lazy, and douchey. (some are cool as fuck obviously and just victims of circumstance)
The only thing that bothers me about poor people is that the mutherfuckers can't quit reproducing. There isn't much that's more heart breaking than seeing a kid growing up with poor as fuck parents who shouldn't have had kids, and aren't even smart enough to teach them anything. I grew up with an alcoholic mother and I was the poor kid in class. Holy shit theres nothing worse. I remember just wanting to have a can of pepsi and I was almost scolded for having asked. Poor adults can deal with shit, kids have no choice and suffer. There should be financial requirement for having kids.
This is a provocative idea, but ultimately misguided. Obviously, poor people should not be having twelve kids, but the fact is most people do their best work when they are highly motivated. There is no greater motivation than want and deprivation. Some examples:
• think about some of your favorite, most successful, musicians. Most of them do their “best” work early in their careers because that is when they are most “hungry” for success. Later, when they become wealthy, they become lazy, less creative, less dedicated. There are exceptions, of course, but this is a common pattern.
• I come from a family of immigrants; the kids in my generation are illustrative. Four of us grew up in the US; two grew up in England. The four of us who grew up in the U.S. were all raised in very modest circumstances. No one would have wanted to trade places with us. Today, all four of us have graduate degrees and most people would consider us very successful. Even with a doctorate I am considered the slacker in the family. Through luck and pluck, my uncle in England became well to do rather quickly. His two kids had everything growing up, but today the rest of us consider them losers: they have no education, no professional careers, no life or future one would want to trade places with.
• most immigrants are dirt poor when they come to America, but they often excel far beyond those born here. Tom is one such example http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=281208.0
One of the neighbors I went to school with came from a family of immigrants. They were very poor and had eight children. Life was a struggle for them. Today, each of those kids is a huge success. One is a physician, one a pharmacist, one a teacher (who also owns and manages an apartment building), one is a pro football player (Indianapolis Colts), etc. Every one of them is a success!
There is a danger in having things come too easy or having too much material success (especially early in life). Having to work for things builds character. Are poor kids really suffering? Does a child “suffer” when he gets an inoculation or are his parents doing him a favor that he is simply not in a position to appreciate? Going through lean year is a valuable character building experience when it is guided by responsible parenting.
Note, obviously, there is a difference between being “poor” in the US (where being poor means you can’t have the lasted toy, iPod, or designer clothes) and being “poor” in a third world country with no basic infrastructure like running water, electricity, or a roof over your head. Most Americans do not know what real poverty is.
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Matt C is a great Aryan leader.
Matt, here are some tips:
1. it's ok to be racist
2. it's not ok to be overly racist to the point where you walk down the street, see a black dude, and start spewing racist shit in your head (i know it's not ok, because i've been there)
3. hating races and looking shit up online to support your views doesn't really lead to anywhere
so as a proud fellow white aryan, here's what you do:
1. make enough to move to an all white gated community
2. once you do, you'll look around and find another reason to hate your fellow white man (i know this, because i'm there now, i hate the shit out of my neighbors and they're white as can be, just cuz there's no blacks to hate)
3. it'll turn you into a mean person...don't you have a daughter to take care of? leave that preaching shit to someone else, and go play with your kid in a park
4. remember, blacks are criminals and love to rape and steal, but they never eat 30 people and keep their heads in the fridge or rape boys til they die and then bury them in their basement
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Funny shit Last!! :)
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I have several rentals in CA and am CONSTANTLY battling the deadbeats. Here it can literally take up to 6 months to get somebody gone, and during that time 95% of them will just absolutely destroy a place. The system is set up so that the renter has almost all the power, even if they have never paid a cent in months. Earlier this year I evicted a POS who's girlfriend paid the first month in cash (the deposit check bounced), then never paid another cent in 4 months. They have to be legally served, and like you said, all they have to do is not answer the door. You can post the eviction notice on the door but they all know to say they 'never got it for some reason'. This guy I watched rip it off the door when he thought I wasn't looking and then tell the sheriff he had 'no idea' he was being evicted when I called them out to get him a week later.
Great post. Where I am it's the same thing. The tenant have all the rights and the landlord has next to none. This really gives only one incentive which is to work especially hard to keep bad tenants out to begin with. As far as discrimination is concerned, let's just say I would much rather rent to an old lady on pension than a young man. I guess this means I'm prejudiced towards young men. ::)
I think a lot of people watch movies like "The Pursuit of Happyness" which glorify poor people and make the hard working productive people of the world look like the bad person. In reality, the more people I meet, the more I realize the opposite is typically true. I had a tenant who didn't pay me rent and burned holes in my carpet from smoking. What was I supposed to do, keep renting to him rent-free forever? Until when? Until I'm bankrupt? Until I find myself unable to afford to live?
Yeah, no thanks.
I have an continue to interact with poor people on a regular basis. Every additional bit of life experience that I acquire merely confirms what I already believe, with very little exception.
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Matt C is a great Caucasian leader.
Matt, here are some tips:
1. it's ok to be racist
2. it's not ok to be overly racist to the point where you walk down the street, see a black dude, and start spewing racist shit in your head (i know it's not ok, because i've been there)
3. hating races and looking shit up online to support your views doesn't really lead to anywhere
so as a proud fellow white Caucasian, here's what you do:
1. make enough to move to an all white gated community
2. once you do, you'll look around and find another reason to hate your fellow white man (i know this, because i'm there now, i hate the shit out of my neighbors and they're white as can be, just cuz there's no blacks to hate)
3. it'll turn you into a mean person...don't you have a daughter to take care of? leave that preaching shit to someone else, and go play with your kid in a park
4. remember, blacks are criminals and love to rape and steal, but they never eat 30 people and keep their heads in the fridge or rape boys til they die and then bury them in their basement
This is actually a great post despite the sarcasm. ;D
I think the bottom line is that regardless of group trends, it is important to treat individuals as individuals as often as possible.
Having said that, stereotypes are valid heuristics and in the absence of specific information, sometimes general information is the only method we have of making a judgment. For example, I'm sure everyone here would admit that they would be more worried about coming across a bodybuilder in a dark alley than an old lady. Is that not a form of sexism? It's an example of generalizing someone, so what's the difference?
As for your comment about White people living in all-White gated communities who still hate their fellow Whites - I agree! I know many such people. These same people praise diversity and praise every other race, yet they can't even tolerate living in their upper class comfortable neighbourhood! The type of things these people whine about is hilarious. For example, one person I know was complaining that he had to wait in line at the store for a long time. LOL!!! And this guy thinks he would be able to handle living in the ghetto? Pfft. :P
That's why these rich liberal Whites annoy me so much. They live the most pro-capitalist, pro-White supremacist lives while bashing both. ::) No different than Michael Moore bashing the USA, the same country that helped him earn $50,000,000.
The USA rules.
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I am a resident of a white, upper middle class to wealthy neighborhood. We don't tolerate poor folks here. In order to slip in under our city police radar, one must be able to fake not being poor. One way to do that, I believe is to hang out at Starbucks all day. If you buy a drink in the morning, they give you a freebee one in the afternoon....oh yeah, you may need a Gold card to take advantage of this. But at least this way when you're unemployed and broke you just look like the rest of us idle rich folks who meet daily around 11:00 a.m. or 2:30 p.m. to chat at Starbucks. This trick works even better if you can steal a laptop, turn it on and look like your checking your investments in the stock market.
Caution, if you are uninformed about our poverty rules and you should happen to stand by one of our two freeway on/off ramps with a sign begging handouts, you'll last about five minutes before our coppers send you on your way. I've seen it happen! They may even give you a ride out of the city limits.
Here is a link to the West Linn, OR demographics page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Linn,_Oregon#Demographics
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I am a resident of a white, upper middle class to wealthy neighborhood. We don't tolerate poor folks here. In order to slip in under our city police radar, one must be able to fake not being poor. One way to do that, I believe is to hang out at Starbucks all day. If you buy a drink in the morning, they give you a freebee one in the afternoon....oh yeah, you may need a Gold card to take advantage of this. But at least this way when you're unemployed and broke you just look like the rest of us idle rich folks who meet daily around 11:00 a.m. or 2:30 p.m. to chat at Starbucks. This trick works even better if you can steal a laptop, turn it on and look like your checking your investments in the stock market.
Caution, if you are uninformed about our poverty rules and you should happen to stand by one of our two freeway on/off ramps with a sign begging handouts, you'll last about five minutes before our coppers send you on your way. I've seen it happen! They may even give you a ride out of the city limits.
Here is a link to the West Linn, OR demographics page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Linn,_Oregon#Demographics
Police are under intense pressure to not discriminate. They can lose their pension over doing it. If police are arresting more poor people than rich people it is because [surprise, surprise], poor people commit more crime.
Modern day USA and Canada are still meritocracies for the most part. My friend has a disability and his IQ is around 60. It only makes sense that he would be poor while someone like Einstein would have gone on to great success, does it not? In a meritocracy, the cream will eventually rise to the top, although I admit that sometimes it may take a while. I truly hope that the USA in its current form can be preserved. American capitalism has given more to the world than it is has ever taken from it.
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I am a resident of a white, upper middle class to wealthy neighborhood. We don't tolerate poor folks here. In order to slip in under our city police radar, one must be able to fake not being poor. One way to do that, I believe is to hang out at Starbucks all day. If you buy a drink in the morning, they give you a freebee one in the afternoon....oh yeah, you may need a Gold card to take advantage of this. But at least this way when you're unemployed and broke you just look like the rest of us idle rich folks who meet daily around 11:00 a.m. or 2:30 p.m. to chat at Starbucks. This trick works even better if you can steal a laptop, turn it on and look like your checking your investments in the stock market.
Caution, if you are uninformed about our poverty rules and you should happen to stand by one of our two freeway on/off ramps with a sign begging handouts, you'll last about five minutes before our coppers send you on your way. I've seen it happen! They may even give you a ride out of the city limits.
Here is a link to the West Linn, OR demographics page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Linn,_Oregon#Demographics
West Lynn was pretty nice when I was there. Of course, that was about 12+ years ago...
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Great post. Where I am it's the same thing. The tenant have all the rights and the landlord has next to none. This really gives only one incentive which is to work especially hard to keep bad tenants out to begin with. As far as discrimination is concerned, let's just say I would much rather rent to an old lady on pension than a young man. I guess this means I'm prejudiced towards young men. ::)
I think a lot of people watch movies like "The Pursuit of Happyness" which glorify poor people and make the hard working productive people of the world look like the bad person. In reality, the more people I meet, the more I realize the opposite is typically true. I had a tenant who didn't pay me rent and burned holes in my carpet from smoking. What was I supposed to do, keep renting to him rent-free forever? Until when? Until I'm bankrupt? Until I find myself unable to afford to live?
Yeah, no thanks.
I have an continue to interact with poor people on a regular basis. Every additional bit of life experience that I acquire merely confirms what I already believe, with very little exception.
Yea, but the majority of 'poor people' in the rental game are experts at playing the game and acting their way into looking like tolerable people. The best way to find out about them is to check court records if available. If I see ANY indication of tenant issues with a person or anyone in their immediate family, even if it looks like they were in the 'right', there is no way they get in, no matter how great they seem otherwise.
Also around here you don't even consider renting to mexicans due to the fact 99.7% of the time the property will become a drug/party house with 27 people living there and/or a safehouse for travelling illegals. I have friends who have been burned by leasing to decent-looking hispanics, then the people they lease to disappear and no rent ever comes in. Then you have the issue of evicting random squatters thru the courts when you don't have anyone specific to serve the papers to.
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I think a lot of people watch movies like "The Pursuit of Happyness" which glorify poor people and make the hard working productive people of the world look like the bad person.
'The pursuit of happyness' wasn't a movie that glorified poor people, but one that showed the main character's strength and spirit, which he used to overcome great odds and eventually become successful. The poverty was used as a background, to show how tough his life was at times, and was not the main focus of the movie nor it's central theme.
In some ways, it was very inspirational.
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the Pursuit of Happiness was a Will Smith & his kid 'vehicle' film.
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I grew up broke as fuck so I know what its like. I always keep extra dollars in my wallet and each week when I see people with signs I give them the money. Why? 1. It makes me feel good. 2. A person is in need and those 1 or 2 dollars will make a bigger difference to them then it will for me.
I know there are scammers out there but that's not for me to judge.
What are your views on poor people domestically?
True story, you want to seperate the legit broke ones from the scammers and junkies? offer to buy them a sandwich when they ask for money, see how many take the food..lol
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True story, you want to seperate the legit broke ones from the scammers and junkies? offer to buy them a sandwich when they ask for money, see how many take the food..lol
Truth.....if you noticed my post about the friend who carried a cardboard box full of crackers, soup, etc.. in his car so that when the panhandlers came over to the car he would offer them to them......he said about half just walked away.
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Truth.....if you noticed my post about the friend who carried a cardboard box full of crackers, soup, etc.. in his car so that when the panhandlers came over to the car he would offer them to them......he said about half just walked away.
It's hard to trade soup and crackers for drugs and plastic-bottle vodka.
Get a little compassion, man!
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It's hard to trade soup and crackers for drugs and plastic-bottle vodka.
Get a little compassion, man!
haha....so true. There is a convenience store I pass by here sometimes that has a painted sign on the side of it that says "We take food stamps or phone cards...." hahah......pure class.
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Why are poor people shopping at conveience stores anyways? You would think their scarce resoures would go farther at a Winco or Foodmax type discount store.
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Why are poor people shopping at conveience stores anyways? You would think their scarce resoures would go farther at a Winco or Foodmax type discount store.
Its right across the road from a mexican infested trailer park..... :-\
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Why are poor people shopping at conveience stores anyways? You would think their scarce resoures would go farther at a Winco or Foodmax type discount store.
That is one of the things I can't get my head around either. Why do they buy food in gas station shops that are even more expensive.
They made interesting experiments in Europe when they gave the same amount of money to rich and to poor two kid families and told them that this was all they were allowed to spend on food for the entire week.
Then they observed their shopping habits. The poor families tended to buy over-prized ready made meals and ran out of cash after a few days, while the rich families tended to make a budget and then shopped mainly fresh and healthy products and often had money left over at the end of the week.
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Police are under intense pressure to not discriminate. They can lose their pension over doing it. If police are arresting more poor people than rich people it is because [surprise, surprise], poor people commit more crime.
Modern day USA and Canada are still meritocracies for the most part. My friend has a disability and his IQ is around 60. It only makes sense that he would be poor while someone like Einstein would have gone on to great success, does it not? In a meritocracy, the cream will eventually rise to the top, although I admit that sometimes it may take a while. I truly hope that the USA in its current form can be preserved. American capitalism has given more to the world than it is has ever taken from it.
Lighten up Matt! I was being sarcasstic in my post. Also, I said nothing about the police arresting panhandlers, what I said was they send them on there way. To be honest in the last fifteen years, I have only seen two panhandlers at our town's freeway ramps. One young lady was out there for about three days and then she was gone. Another fellow, dressed as a neo-nazi, was hitchhiking when the police pulled up.
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West Lynn was pretty nice when I was there. Of course, that was about 12+ years ago...
Hasn't changed much. Folks are still building million dollar homes. If anyone is suffering from the economic downturn, their doing a good job of concealing it. I have noticed an upswing in property improvements this summer. I suspect some folks are staying put as opposed to moving since property values are down about 35% from their high in 2007.
My wife and I were going to downsize, but we've decided to stay where we are...two people and two dogs rattling around in a 3,000 sq. ft. home. Well, we do have plenty of room to put our kids up when they visit. That's one nice thing.