What is your view of the poor?

[wes]

Thanks guys!!

[che]

Matt,I was one of a few white people that lived in a black ghetto as a kid..........lived there for over 25 years and hung on the streets all my life.

I`ve met a ton of homelss people as I`ve been there myself.

Overcame alcoholism,drug addiction,poverty,emotional/mental problems,etc. etc.

You have no fucking clue who I am or what I`ve done son,you only know what I`ve posted on the internet.

I can tell you stories that would literally curl your fucking hair.

You sir wouldn`t have lasted one minute during  any part of my life, including any workout you chose to do.

Matt,I think people stiff you on rent because you are a preppy nerd who has a stick up his ass! 

I`d laugh at what you would consider a hard time.

I wrote the book on hard times pal !!

HAHHA ,MattC is a fag

[Purple Aki]

MattC is the saviour of the white race... who will one day overthrow our Jewish masters and lead our downtrodden and oppressed people to the promised land (Thunder Bay, Canada).

[kiwiol]

Matt,I was one of a few white people that lived in a black ghetto as a kid..........lived there for over 25 years and hung on the streets all my life.

I`ve met a ton of homelss people as I`ve been there myself.

Overcame alcoholism,drug addiction,poverty,emotional/mental problems,etc. etc.

You have no fucking clue who I am or what I`ve done son,you only know what I`ve posted on the internet.

I can tell you stories that would literally curl your fucking hair.

You sir wouldn`t have lasted one minute during  any part of my life, including any workout you chose to do.

Matt,I think people stiff you on rent because you are a preppy nerd who has a stick up his ass!  

I`d laugh at what you would consider a hard time.

I wrote the book on hard times pal !!

I won't say I knew all that just from reading your posts, but a lot of it is obvious, especially from your way of seeing through a lot of BS and cutting to the core using plain old horse sense. That's something that only experience can deliver, not knowledge gained through books or proxy.

Props and mad respect, as always.

[wes]

Props and mad respect, as always.

Right back at ya` my friend!! 

[jesusbod]

I know one thing.. Everyone falls on hard times every now and then. I see the panhandlers on the side of the street on my way to work. I don't usually give money to any of them if they look like they have all of their limbs. If they say they are a veteran I usually give them money. The ones that look fully capable of going look for work, I don't give them anything. I figure they could be looking for work all day long instead of begging for money. Capice....

[Ex Coelis]

Wes' character is as solid as his muscular physique

[wes]

Wes' character is as solid as his muscular physique

Thanks bud!! 

[KevinP85]

mexicans will live 3-4 families a household to move ahead.  i dont know when it became illegal for a person to have an automobile and still get govt assistance.  if i'm correct...people can still earn an income while they are being moved out the system...but of course...there are cheats.  white collar cheats are more dangerous.   mexicans will only add to the diversity of north america.  it's just a faster and greater (population) rate than anyone expected.



 

the new north american beauty standard....we're going retro.  the grandchildren of the native indians are returning.  

She is so pretty!! But I doubt what you are saying is true.

[Matt C]

I'm just sick of the pieces of shit you see at the grocery store who have their cart loaded up with tbone steaks, crab legs, candy and loads of non essential shit and they pay for it with their fucking food stamp card. Then they pull out a wad of cash and buy a carton of newports. Saw a guy pissed off the other day because he couldn't use his ebt card to get a monster energy drink  

Liberalism in its finest. The system is set up for, and encourages, them to do exactly that. If they were to somehow be accountable, that would lead to getting a steady income stream, which means getting off welfare and no longer being a guaranteed vote.

How can any responsible American man be a democrat in society now a days. Mine as well cut your fucken balls off and give half of everything you have to the peice of shit down the street slinging crack.

I totally agree with this.  The USA is the land of milk and honey, at least as long as liberal initiatives don't continue to bankrupt it.

Poor people are great...I like to put a fishing line through a $20.00 bill and drop it on a sidewalk near some homeless bum.when he reaches for it I pull it away.



...fun times

     

Matt,I was one of a few white people that lived in a black ghetto as a kid..........lived there for over 25 years and hung on the streets all my life.

I`ve met a ton of homelss people as I`ve been there myself.

Overcame alcoholism,drug addiction,poverty,emotional/mental problems,etc. etc.

You have no fucking clue who I am or what I`ve done son,you only know what I`ve posted on the internet.

I can tell you stories that would literally curl your fucking hair.

You sir wouldn`t have lasted one minute during  any part of my life, including any workout you chose to do.

Matt,I think people stiff you on rent because you are a preppy nerd who has a stick up his ass!  

I`d laugh at what you would consider a hard time.

I wrote the book on hard times pal !!

So why did you move out of the ghetto?  I thought you love poor people?  Sounds to me like you think the poor are not so great after all.  If you thought that you wouldn't have fled the area.  And if you were able to get over your hardships, why can't other people do the same?  Lastly, you would have just as much trouble collecting rent from some of my former tenants.  You can't get blood from a stone.

fixed

     

[G_Thang]

She is so pretty!! But I doubt what you are saying is true.

ok...i exaggerated a bit but families per household is correct.  several families were building extra walls in houses when i was in colorado springs and were caught.  2nd...mexicans migrating across the boarder are the grandchild of native indians.  do a genetic analyst.

anyway...unsung's white men polluting the mexican bloodline was a classic.  remember none of this is personal.  it's just a message board.

[Matt C]

The average penalty for attempted murder in Canada is six years, with manslaughter being given six years at the high end.  

Tim, check this out:

http://www.chroniclejournal.com/top_story.php?id=212238

Garnet Jay Loon, 33, received a six-year sentence stemming from the Dec. 24, 2007 death of Jordan Achneepineskum.

...

At Friday‘s hearing, Smith touched on Loon‘s unhappy life in remote native communities. After his parents began to abuse alcohol, Loon fell out with the family and began his own descent into intoxicants, starting at the age of nine.

Along with marital strife, he also ran afoul of the law and has been convicted of nearly 30 crimes of violence.

So tell me Tim, how poor must a person be before you give them permission to murder your wife?

[ToxicAvenger]

I grew up broke as fuck so I know what its like.  I always keep extra dollars in my wallet and each week when I see people with signs I give them the money.  Why?  1. It makes me feel good. 2. A person is in need and those 1 or 2 dollars will make a bigger difference to them then it will for me.

I know there are scammers out there but that's not for me to judge.  

What are your views on poor people domestically?

high school is free in this country...so if u pay attention in HS you can make something of yourself....so i feel less for poor people in this country than say pakistan...where education is NOT free....

however...my parents have around 3 or 5...(something like that) homeless guys that show up at the gasstation everymorning and they have em do odd jobs for an hour or 2...clean the parking lot of ciggy butts...empty the trash etc...and give them $20 a piece...

every paycheck i get i give $50 to this one homeless guy everytime cause he is a vet....

and when i can i will buy homeless people alkie...good or bad..its not for me to judge...it makes their day better..

so i applaud you

walk a mile in their shoes before u judge

[wes]

I`m not reading any of your bullshit links,articles,or cut and paste nonsense Matt........get some real life experience and grow the fuck up.

[wes]

Damn right......money comes and goes in the blink of an eye at times.

There but for the grace of God go I dear lord.

[The Showstoppa]

Had a friend once who would keep a cardboard box filled with soups, crackers, etc... and give them to the homeless/panhandlers at redlights.....sadly, he said many of them turned them down. 

[The Ugly]

The poor are people just like us

If we're talking panhandler "poor," I couldn't disagree more. We wouldn't waste quality job-seeking time begging for change, and we wouldn't be spending what he had on booze or drugs.

Day after day after day ...


People like us fall, we eventually get up again. These people don't want to get up. They can't be helped.  

[Matt C]

I`m not reading any of your bullshit links,articles,or cut and paste nonsense Matt........get some real life experience and grow the fuck up.

That's always your response to me, something nonsensical like "I can't believe anyone listens to this guy!!!" or some other empty reply.  You do nothing to refute what I'm saying with very little exception.  On mayhem you may have been able to ban my account and I'm sure you miss having those powers.  Oh well.

[StuartR]

There is an idea that poor upbringing circumstances perpetuate a cycle of poverty that's hard to break
I was raised comfortably so I don't have any first hand experience with this, but I'd like to hear from any of you guys that came from rough childhood circumstances and rose above them to become productive, economically comfortable members of society

[wes]

That's always your response to me, something nonsensical like "I can't believe anyone listens to this guy!!!" or some other empty reply.  You do nothing to refute what I'm saying with very little exception.  On mayhem you may have been able to ban my account and I'm sure you miss having those powers.  Oh well.

It`s not my job or desire to refute your stupidity,and I never banned you ,so don`t go making shit up.

For someone who thinks they`re a genius,you`re pretty fucking stupid with the way you look at things,especially involving people that are different than you are.

[Matt C]

It's easy to feel secure while you have your riches, but in a moment they can vanish, and you could find yourself in the same situation as those that you seem to feel nothing for.

I just find it funny that the people in this thread who don't like the poor are the ones who seem to deal with them more than those who are praising the poor.  I would never speak for all poor people but I can give you one recent example: The hydro payment office in my city is in the same building as the welfare office.  Someone who works there stated outright that the overwhelming majority of people on welfare are able-bodied adults who are just leaching off the system.  I don't even blame them so much as the holier than thou liberals who push for these welfare programs in the first place.  Once in place, it's just natural that these programs will be abused.

Some say the poor stay poor.  I guess this explains why my parents are millionaires now despite coming to Canada with nothing and living the early parts of their adult lives close to poverty.    Having been "poor" myself [Canadian poor anyway, which is still rich], I know that other people who are poor are just making excuses.  I wasn't born into riches.  Any able-bodied person here could have gone to university on scholarship and acquired multiple degrees and spent 10,000+ hours building a website business.

Society is like panning for gold: the scum end up on the bottom.  Or as the old saying goes, the cream naturally rises to the top.

[The Ugly]

some have fallen due to bad choices...others due to circumstance.  how do you know what your breaking point would be?  would it be the loss of your job?  inability to find a new one due to economic conditions?  A failed marriage?  the death of a father, mother, or child? 

you dont really know these people, and you dont know WHY they may not be able to "get up" as you put it...or even "want to".  life can be very hard.

Most aren't unique Lifetime movies-of-the-week-type tragedies, I'm afraid. Most are just chronically bad deciders. You see it enough times, you stop making excuses for em.

[wes]

Shit happens sometimes which makes a persons life hard,but the hardest part is getting over it and moving on to better things.

[Matt C]

It`s not my job or desire to refute your stupidity,and I never banned you ,so don`t go making shit up.

For someone who thinks they`re a genius,you`re pretty fucking stupid with the way you look at things,especially involving people that are different than you are.

I don't think I'm a genius.  I was the top high school math student in Canada in both grades 11 and 12 [although it's just high school I think it's still a good achievement].  I consider myself to be a pretty sharp guy.

http://tiny.cc/a7acr

Life is not hard for me because I'm smart enough to make my life easy.  It wasn't handed to me.  My father was a seasonally employed construction worker and my mother was a homemaker.  The household income would have been $30,000 a year on a good year and in most cases, a whole lot less.  My parents both had rough childhoods that I can't get into because I don't feel it is my business to share.  My friend's mother lost her uncle and grandmother in WWII and both her parents were taken to work camps.  She is doing fine now and has two healthy and functional adult sons.

NO EXCUSES.

[Matt C]

Most aren't unique Lifetime movies-of-the-week-type tragedies, I'm afraid. Most are just chronically bad deciders. You see it enough times, you stop making excuses for em.

Exactly!!!

What's with this romantic view of the poor?  Yes, some are truly down on their luck, but can someone explain to me how a person who gets literally $3,000 a month in government assistance and drinks it all away is somehow the victim of "society".  He's the victim of his own shit genetics, plain and simple!