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the USA political party machine..a terrible thing to inflict on the minds of its' citizens.
(http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/files/2010/08/sarah-palin-on-the-phone.jpg)
2012 President of USA
if any country ever needed a non-party system...then it's the USA.
americans dont even know WTF they are voting for... a donkey or an elephant. ::)
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all Alize and Courvoisier
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Sipping on some sizzurp
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Of course he is drunk... wouldn't you celebrate if you managed to destroy world's largest economy in about 2 years? That's one hell of an achievement for any communist...
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That's funny, thanks!
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sippin gin and juice or maybe some ripple?
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haha this one is real, hilarious guy.
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Mindspin, that is edited, chopped, screwed and photoed through a reflection and through a dirty sliding door with the flash off.
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Like it makes a difference or not?
Obama is an ignorant, inept, incompetent, stuttering fool who can't speak beyond mindless soundbites, straw men, pap, slogans, and 2nd grade level insults.
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yes bush was a better speaker
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yes bush was a better speaker
No, Bush was equally stupid. But Bush being stupid does not make Obama brilliant, he is not. He is an incompetent hack at best who now has two massive failures on his hand that m,any, includsing myself predicted would be a disaster - The Stim Bill & ObamaCare.
FINREG is equally worthless but we still have not felt the effects of that.
As for his being Drunk, even his doctor said he drinks too much. It was in his last medical report. Look it up.
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then why dont you run for president if you know it better?
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then why dont you run for president if you know it better?
Because a NYC, Italian bald, thick accented, far right wing, bodybuilder, gun nut, who did not go to Harvard or Yale, who is very profane has no chance whatsoever in this day and age.
The last non Harvard or Yalie was Reagan.
Also, I like posting nasty shit on Getbig and my account would probably get exposed in the NYT and deep six me instantly. ;D ;D
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Because a NYC, Italian bald, thick accented, far right wing, bodybuilder, gun nut, who did not go to Harvard or Yale, who is very profane has no chance whatsoever in this day and age.
The last non Harvard or Yalie was Reagan.
Also, I like posting nasty shit on Getbig and my account would probably get exposed in the NYT and deep six me instantly. ;D ;D
silvio is that you?
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silvio is that you?
Nah.
I can only imagine my posts getting exposed in the NYT.
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No, Bush was equally stupid. But Bush being stupid does not make Obama brilliant, he is not. He is an incompetent hack at best who now has two massive failures on his hand that m,any, includsing myself predicted would be a disaster - The Stim Bill & ObamaCare.
FINREG is equally worthless but we still have not felt the effects of that.
As for his being Drunk, even his doctor said he drinks too much. It was in his last medical report. Look it up.
I don't necessarily think Bush was stupid as much as he really looked at the world very simplistic. Good and Evil. Democracy and Communism. Plain and simple. If you are evil, he vowed to remove you. If you were a communist country, he helped the Democratic movement in that country. I was not a big Bush supporter but over the years I grew to like the fact that He loved this country and was doing what he thought was right to keep America Great. As for the Ass Clown in the White House now, I think he is a puppet of George Soros and hates what America stood for, and that is why you see him Bashing anything American and having a radical agenda. His goose is cooked in 2012... There is no way this guy will be elected again.
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i really like to know if bush indeed was and is a stupid man without any knowledge of the world around him.
i heard he gives readings for business people for a lot of money so i imagine the man should know a thing or two.
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i really like to know if bush indeed was and is a stupid man without any knowledge of the world around him.
i heard he gives readings for business people for a lot of money so i imagine the man should know a thing or two.
I did not mean stupid like in the way the dems portrayed him, but more in terms of how he presented himself in many public settings.
As for Obama - I will walk over a mine field, war zone, over hot coals, nails, spikes, quick sand, and fire to vote against him in 2012, regardless of who runs against him.
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I did not mean stupid like in the way the dems portrayed him, but more in terms of how he presented himself in many public settings.
As for Obama - I will walk over a mine field, war zone, over hot coals, nails, spikes, quick sand, and fire to vote against him in 2012, regardless of who runs against him.
I would agree with that... I as well will be one of the first in line to vote against P-BO.
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So you want a person in power that believes the earth is only 2000 years old that Dino's were placed on earth by god
to trick us and test our faith, a person that feels its more important to check her tweets from "her" prayer warriors than
somebody like Obama who is a rational thinking man?
Just imagine Sarah in power with her period... if that isn't scary enough I don't know.
I mean that woman actually WANTS a war between Christianity and Islam - she believes its written in a book that is over
2000 years old and we should go on a total war with Islam, I mean anybody who cannot see the total fucking mind boggling
stupidity in this is not worth a fucking penny.
But on the other hand maybe this is what the world needs, everything is coming to an end some time, I am sure the Romans
laughed at people telling them that their reign is coming to an end one day after all their empire stood for what 500 years?
I mean America was founded July 4, 1776 that's like what 243 years ago?
I am reading a very good book atm written by a philosopher called Slavoj Zizek - the book is called Living in the end times and
describes pretty plausible evidence that capitalism as we know it will come to an end, he is not the person that believes in the 2012
bullshit but he believes that we are somewhat approaching a point zero and god knows what happens then.
Just read some books like One Second (EMP attack on the US) even Z War (which the best book about a Zombie outbreak - the beauty about this book is that it can be applied to any major world wide catastrophe) all these books describe pretty well how depended we
are to things we have zero control over, 99.9% of the people in this forum would stand no chance if they wouldn't have their blackberrys their daily runs to the local mal and had to life a live of scavangers, just a fact.
So to come full circle back, maybe this is after all what the world needs, a new start, 90% of humans die and leave the rest of the 10% with a new start - hopefully if it ever happens they have learned their lessons.
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So you want a person in power that believes the earth is only 2000 years old that Dino's were placed on earth by god
to trick us and test our faith, a person that feels its more important to check her tweets from "her" prayer warriors than
somebody like Obama who is a rational thinking man?
Just imagine Sarah in power with her period... if that isn't scary enough I don't know.
I mean that woman actually WANTS a war between Christianity and Islam - she believes its written in a book that is over
2000 years old and we should go on a total war with Islam, I mean anybody who cannot see the total fucking mind boggling
stupidity in this is not worth a fucking penny.
But on the other hand maybe this is what the world needs, everything is coming to an end some time, I am sure the Romans
laughed at people telling them that their reign is coming to an end one day after all their empire stood for what 500 years?
I mean America was founded July 4, 1776 that's like what 243 years ago?
I am reading a very good book atm written by a philosopher called Slavoj Zizek - the book is called Living in the end times and
describes pretty plausible evidence that capitalism as we know it will come to an end, he is not the person that believes in the 2012
bullshit but he believes that we are somewhat approaching a point zero and god knows what happens then.
Just read some books like One Second (EMP attack on the US) even Z War (which the best book about a Zombie outbreak - the beauty about this book is that it can be applied to any major world wide catastrophe) all these books describe pretty well how depended we
are to things we have zero control over, 99.9% of the people in this forum would stand no chance if they wouldn't have their blackberrys their daily runs to the local mal and had to life a live of scavangers, just a fact.
So to come full circle back, maybe this is after all what the world needs, a new start, 90% of humans die and leave the rest of the 10% with a new start - hopefully if it ever happens they have learned their lessons.
I for one do not want Sarah Palin as the President but if she wins, then so be it. Our political system has always been Center Right. If she wins I suspect she will govern that way. Too many issues need both sides to make happen and compromise is the key to get things passed.
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For me right now - I'm looking at things on the issues for every candidate:
1. Would they have voted for ObamaCare - if so - GONE
2. Would they havevoted for Cap & Trade - if so - GONE
3. Would they have voted for the Stim Bill - if so -GONE
4. Do they support the GZ mosque - if so GONE
5. Do they want to raise taxes and hit me with energy taxes and mandates etc - if so - GONE
I don't give a damn if they are a Witch, a dwarf, a midget, an albino, the bearded lady at the carnival, whatever - if they support any of the above - GGGOOONNNEEE!!!!!
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Like it makes a difference or not?
Obama is an ignorant, inept, incompetent, stuttering fool who can't speak beyond mindless soundbites, straw men, pap, slogans, and 2nd grade level insults.
Damn you're a moron. You see, there are a lot of people like, who are on the fence about which direction to go in, in the next election. When I see the rampant hatred spewing from right wing wackos like you, it makes the choice a lot easier.
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For me right now - I'm looking at things on the issues for every candidate:
4. Do they support the GZ mosque - if so GONE
I don't give a damn if they are a Witch, a dwarf, a midget, an albino, the bearded lady at the carnival, whatever - if they support any of the above - GGGOOONNNEEE!!!!!
While I hate Islam as a religion, can I inquire why you feel you need to put this in here?
What does this actually have to do with the problems that this country faces?
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Damn you're a moron. You see, there are a lot of people like, who are on the fence about which direction to go in, in the next election. When I see the rampant hatred spewing from right wing wackos like you, it makes the choice a lot easier.
The Reid/Pelosi/Obama Trifecta of incompetence, ignorance, and arrogance has done nothing to earn your vote, you disgust at my hatred for Obama aside.
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While I hate Islam as a religion, can I inquire why you feel you need to put this in here?
What does this actually have to do with the problems that this country faces?
I live in NYC, and the same way I would NEVER be ok with a floating Shitno Shrine to the Emporer of Japan floating in Pearl Harbor, the same holds true for a Mosque with the name and symbol of consequence, the Cordoba Project, at the very site where bodies still are unrecovered, the landing gear through those two buildings, and being pushed by a corrupt, fraudulent, thieving, lying Imam who is more a kin to the welfare queen, slum lord, mini-madoff, than a man of faith.
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I live in NYC, and the same way I would NEVER be ok with a floating Shitno Shrine to the Emporer of Japan floating in Pearl Harbor, the same holds true for a Mosque with the name and symbol of consequence, the Cordoba Project, at the very site where bodies still are unrecovered, the landing gear through those two buildings, and being pushed by a corrupt, fraudulent, thieving, lying Imam who is more a kin to the welfare queen, slum lord, mini-madoff, than a man of faith.
Do you not believe that it is the foundation of this country that if you can buy property, it is your right to do whatever you want to do with it as long as you do not harm anyone else?
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I live in NYC, and the same way I would NEVER be ok with a floating Shitno Shrine to the Emporer of Japan floating in Pearl Harbor, the same holds true for a Mosque with the name and symbol of consequence, the Cordoba Project, at the very site where bodies still are unrecovered, the landing gear through those two buildings, and being pushed by a corrupt, fraudulent, thieving, lying Imam who is more a kin to the welfare queen, slum lord, mini-madoff, than a man of faith.
you know we have Islam men/women in our armed forces right now, fighting for the freedom for you to open your mouth and spew ignorance all day right?
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Do you not believe that it is the foundation of this country that if you can buy property, it is your right to do whatever you want to do with it as long as you do not harm anyone else?
That is not the law anywhere in this country. And this is a community and cultural center as well as a mosque. This is not a place of worship in the usual sense, but a symbol of conquest and victory.
Regardless, and while I of course recognize that they have a techincal legal right to proceed most likely, the fact that this imam is pushing this says all I need to know about his motives and for politicians to egg him on, sorry, I have an equal right to protest and voice my disgust.
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you know we have Islam men/women in our armed forces right now, fighting for the freedom for you to open your mouth and spew ignorance all day right?
Do you really think I give a flying shit?
At what point do we demand the tolerance from these people that they demand of everyone else? Why is it always a one way street at the threat of violence or death if we don't acceed to their demands?
Bro - tell me what ignorance I spout on Obama - seriously - what have i gotten wrong on this Admn? Have i posted an over the top thread on occassions? Yes? But i predicted from Day 1 the absolute disaster this admn would be on every level.
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That is not the law anywhere in this country. And this is a community and cultural center as well as a mosque. This is not a place of worship in the usual sense, but a symbol of conquest and victory.
Regardless, and while I of course recognize that they have a techincal legal right to proceed most likely, the fact that this imam is pushing this says all I need to know about his motives and for politicians to egg him on, sorry, I have an equal right to protest and voice my disgust.
So you're saying that if you buy property that people have the right to tell you what to do with it?
Really?
Since you have stated your opinion (and I do agree you have the right to protest), I'll tell you mine.
I believe a probe should be done to determine if any terrorist organizations are providing financial backing to his mosque (This should be done for all non profits of all kinds... including churches and synagogues) and if there is any odd funds coming from a terrorist organization, then he should not be allowed to buy the building and if it is already purchased, the government has a right to seize the property.
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So you're saying that if you buy property that people have the right to tell you what to do with it?
Really?
Since you have stated your opinion (and I do agree you have the right to protest), I'll tell you mine.
I believe a probe should be done to determine if any terrorist organizations are providing financial backing to his mosque (This should be done for all non profits of all kinds... including churches and synagogues) and if there is any odd funds coming from a terrorist organization, then he should not be allowed to buy the building and if it is already purchased, the government has a right to seize the property.
One of the backers already got implicated sending $$$ to a terrorist organization shut down the FBI. Imam Rauf himself is a slum lord and welfare queenm with a horrific history of safety violations and taking Govt money and not doing what he is supposed to etc.
The reason he is not disclosuing the funding is because it will be funded by SA whabbaist sects.
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Do you really think I give a flying shit?
At what point do we demand the tolerance from these people that they demand of everyone else? Why is it always a one way street at the threat of violence or death if we don't acceed to their demands?
Bro - tell me what ignorance I spout on Obama - seriously - what have i gotten wrong on this Admn? Have i posted an over the top thread on occassions? Yes? But i predicted from Day 1 the absolute disaster this admn would be on every level.
Wait, let me get this straight. You actually believe that the Islam religion is out to get us?
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One of the backers already got implicated sending $$$ to a terrorist organization shut down the FBI. Imam Rauf himself is a slum lord and welfare queenm with a horrific history of safety violations and taking Govt money and not doing what he is supposed to etc.
The reason he is not disclosuing the funding is because it will be funded by SA whabbaist sects.
That may be true... prove it and show it... Then it's not about what's there (A Mosque), it's about who's behind it.
I am all for proof.
I do agree that the fact he doesn't present his backers, while not legally required, is very sketchy.
So if a bunch of money was raised by people who we know are not tied with terrorists, would you think the Mosque was ok then?
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Wait, let me get this straight. You actually believe that the Islam religion is out to get us?
I believe that the radical sect of Islam, while maybe 10%, leads the pack and is the tip of the spear. I believe this 10% has a goal of submission, as we see in the UK and many other places, and are forcing their way and using our weaknesses against us to push Sharia Law in all areas they can.
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That may be true... prove it and show it... Then it's not about what's there (A Mosque), it's about who's behind it.
I am all for proof.
I do agree that the fact he doesn't present his backers, while not legally required, is very sketchy.
So if a bunch of money was raised by people who we know are not tied with terrorists, would you think the Mosque was ok then?
i think its techincally legal, but its utterly insulting, appauling, and in horrible taste.
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I believe that the radical sect of Islam, while maybe 10%, leads the pack and is the tip of the spear. I believe this 10% has a goal of submission, as we see in the UK and many other places, and are forcing their way and using our weaknesses against us to push Sharia Law in all areas they can.
No one can force anyone to do anything if they don't allow it.
A Mosque does not represent any danger to me whatsoever, nor should it represent any danger to this country.
If someone tries to push Sharia law into our country, we simply tell them "No. If you want Sharia law... take your ass back to where you came from. You're in The United States of America and our basis of law has nothing to do with your religion."
i think its techincally legal, but its utterly insulting, appauling, and in horrible taste.
I see it as no worse than putting a strip club (which I happen to love 'em) close to other places or putting a bar next to a church.
I do not care about taste or insult... I'm only speaking of legality.
In this country, we should go with our laws, not with our hurt feelings about something.
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I believe that the radical sect of Islam, while maybe 10%, leads the pack and is the tip of the spear. I believe this 10% has a goal of submission, as we see in the UK and many other places, and are forcing their way and using our weaknesses against us to push Sharia Law in all areas they can.
Interesting. So the fact that this country was founded on religious freedom and the separation of church/state as one of the bedrocks of our core values means nothing? Perhaps we should go back to a monarchy that forces Christian beliefs on us all ::)
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Interesting. So the fact that this country was founded on religious freedom and the separation of church/state as one of the bedrocks of our core values means nothing? Perhaps we should go back to a monarchy that forces Christian beliefs on us all ::)
That's really funny consdering the Imam pushing the mosque is in favor of Sharia Law in the US, getting tax dollars to promote the mosque, got $2 million to rehab apartments, got $10,000 from the State Department to purchase his own books to spread around the ME, is in line to receive taxpayer financing for this mosque from NYC as per the comptroller, etc.
Yet, I am the one being accused of wanting to violate the sepearation of Church and State? Ha ha - you really are making me laugh.
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That's really funny consdering the Imam pushing the mosque is in favor of Sharia Law in the US, getting tax dollars to promote the mosque, got $2 million to rehab apartments, got $10,000 from the State Department to purchase his own books to spread around the ME, is in line to receive taxpayer financing for this mosque from NYC as per the comptroller, etc.
Yet, I am the one being accused of wanting to violate the sepearation of Church and State? Ha ha - you really are making me laugh.
He should not receive any tax payer money for this either... Absolutely none.
On that basis, I would not support anyone buying a building with my money and turning into any religious area.
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He should not receive any tax payer money for this either... Absolutely none.
On that basis, I would not support anyone buying a building with my money and turning into any religious area.
I posted many stories about this on the Politics board.
There is a lot more to this guy than was originally reported.
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That is not the law anywhere in this country. And this is a community and cultural center as well as a mosque. This is not a place of worship in the usual sense, but a symbol of conquest and victory.
Regardless, and while I of course recognize that they have a techincal legal right to proceed most likely, the fact that this imam is pushing this says all I need to know about his motives and for politicians to egg him on, sorry, I have an equal right to protest and voice my disgust.
I agree with both sides of this argument. In no way do I feel conquered by a mosque being built at the site of the mighty WTC. In my mind when I really think about it is disgusting that it's being allowed to be built there, but on the other hand this country was founded and built by immigrants of all religions and races. 333386 this is not pointed at you personally, I am just replying to the post. I spent many years in the USMC and fought terrorism, and I can feel the disgust that a lot of others feel, but this country is still strong, and we will overcome terrorism weather or not a mosque is built at the site of the WTC. GodSpeed to all the fallen AMERICANS who had their lives stolen on 9-11. No matter what is built there you will never be forgotten.
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I agree with both sides of this argument. In no way do I feel conquered by a mosque being built at the site of the mighty WTC. In my mind when I really think about it is disgusting that it's being allowed to be built there, but on the other hand this country was founded and built by immigrants of all religions and races. 333386 this is not pointed at you personally, I am just replying to the post. I spent many years in the USMC and fought terrorism, and I can feel the disgust that a lot of others feel, but this country is still strong, and we will overcome terrorism weather or not a mosque is built at the site of the WTC. GodSpeed to all the fallen AMERICANS who had their lives stolen on 9-11. No matter what is built there you will never be forgotten.
My argument has been from Day 1 that just because something is legally right, does not make it the right thing to do. The way this Imam is proomoting this, I view him in the same light as the Westboro Baptist crowd.
Yes its legal, but it still a crappy thing to do deserving and warranting scorn and protest.
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I posted many stories about this on the Politics board.
There is a lot more to this guy than was originally reported.
Of course they should not receive tax dollars for this. But you are opposing them building mosks even when they are funded by themselves.
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I believe that the radical sect of Islam, while maybe 10%, leads the pack and is the tip of the spear. I believe this 10% has a goal of submission, as we see in the UK and many other places, and are forcing their way and using our weaknesses against us to push Sharia Law in all areas they can.
You are correct here. There is always a 10% that is out to cause trouble, in every religion, culture, club, company, etc. The Marine Corps has a saying about the 10% that just does not cut it. It's everywhere. Radical Muslims in reality probably don't even make up anywhere near 10%. I dont have a lot of sympathy or love for any radicalized religion.
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My argument has been from Day 1 that just because something is legally right, does not make it the right thing to do. The way this Imam is proomoting this, I view him in the same light as the Westboro Baptist crowd.
Yes its legal, but it still a crappy thing to do deserving and warranting scorn and protest.
I agree with you 100%
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Oh and for the OP if you look and do a search, according to the posters on youtube all of the American Presidents in recent history have made live drunk speeches. ;)
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Ted Kennedy would be proud