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:o :o :o
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Two most ripped guys I've ever seen...Munzer and Renel Javier
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Two most ripped guys I've ever seen...Munzer and Renel Javier
He literally died to get that ripped, didn't he Chick? :-\
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Not shredded.....Munzered.
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Crazy....
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He literally died to get that ripped, didn't he Chick? :-\
Sad..
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Rich Gaspari
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SOA99Aw8Juo/SVmiWtxbgQI/AAAAAAAAAD4/Tj-CQRdkKzg/s400/Rich_Gaspari_003.jpg)
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goodrum said he had munzer like condition
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Rich Gaspari
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SOA99Aw8Juo/SVmiWtxbgQI/AAAAAAAAAD4/Tj-CQRdkKzg/s400/Rich_Gaspari_003.jpg)
I think there is a difference. Gaspari is ripped, no doubt but Munzer is shredded. I mean Gaspari is vascular but you can see every striation imaginable on Munzer, just look at his shoulders!
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i would be interested to know what exactly munzer was doing to get that kind of conditioning
and what most dont know about him, is that he stayed not very far from that ALL YEAR AROUND........his idea of a "bulking" bodyfat would probably be cutler's "stage" level
obviously it killed him......but it had to be something he was doing (aside from the obvious which is abusing tons of diuretics).........you cant tell em its genetic and he is the only person ever to be able ot achieve that
so what was it?
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goodrum said he had munzer like condition
No he didn't, did he? Did he really?! ???
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i would be interested to know what exactly munzer was doing to get that kind of conditioning
and what most dont know about him, is that he stayed not very far from that ALL YEAR AROUND........his idea of a "bulking" bodyfat would probably be cutler's "stage" level
obviously it killed him......but it had to be something he was doing (aside from the obvious which is abusing tons of diuretics).........you cant tell em its genetic and he is the only person ever to be able ot achieve that
so what was it?
Non-stop fatburners? ???
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Rich Gaspari
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SOA99Aw8Juo/SVmiWtxbgQI/AAAAAAAAAD4/Tj-CQRdkKzg/s400/Rich_Gaspari_003.jpg)
no no no and NO..........for the billionth time, you cant compare "gym-pump" photos to stage shots
completely different thing
yes gaspari had awesome conditioin, set a new precedent at the time........but never looked like munzer did on stage
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<<Munzer was without doubt one of the best conditioned athletes to ever grace a stage.
The guy was a little crazy with his dosages but there is still an undeniable amount of hard work and crazy CV involved in getting so lean.
PIP
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I remember an article "written" by Janvier talking about how he was so ripped he went through a ton of razors cuz they'd dull out so quick. True or false it made me laugh.
I remember on of the first pics that made me go :o was Munzer in a Weider ad doing a side crunch shot. His obliques and serratus were like nothing i'd ever seen and of course the leg striation were just seek. He looked like he was made outta granite. Noone was close to that at the time 8)
I hated how when he died ESPN edited him out of the posedown and entire contest even though he made top 6. They coulda just not said anything since the general public would never know him anyway >:(
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Two most ripped guys I've ever seen...Munzer and Renel Javier
Chick is Munzer wearing a system(hair) in that picture?
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<<Munzer was without doubt one of the best conditioned athletes to ever grace a stage.
The guy was a little crazy with his dosages but there is still an undeniable amount of hard work and crazy CV involved in getting so lean.
PIP
But the question is: what was he taking to get that look?
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No he didn't, did he? Did he really?! ???
indeed he did :-\
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indeed he did :-\
He was obviously joking. No other human being on earth is as ripped as Munzer was, so he was kidding.
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I think there is a difference. Gaspari is ripped, no doubt but Munzer is shredded. I mean Gaspari is vascular but you can see every striation imaginable on Munzer, just look at his shoulders!
Yes you are correct, dude is very shredded
(http://www.musclebuildblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/48nu8.jpg)
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But the question is: what was he taking to get that look?
Well there are supposed cycles flying around the net, one of which I have on pretty good authority is pretty close to what he did. I will see if I can find it.
To generalise that level on condition is a result of massive amounts of well timed mercurial diuretics, shit loads of good quality tren, mast and winni in the final few weeks and thyroid chems.
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:o :o :o
I'd have to say that the condition he displayed there will never be duplicated!! He's been gone for quite awhile now and the times seem to have changed to the size freak factor!! Munzer looked like a live anatomy chart!! :o :o
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Two most ripped guys I've ever seen...Munzer and Renel Javier
Well you haven't seen Getbigs own Goodrum. He himself has said he has Munzer type conditioning. I still think he meant Munster
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crazy
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Well you haven't seen Getbigs own Goodrum. He himself has said he has Munzer type conditioning. I still think he meant Munster
As in Munster Cheese? ???
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What actually happens when you take a diuretic?
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crazy
In that pic, you can see he was in pain, suffering... :-\
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He was obviously joking. No other human being on earth is as ripped as Munzer was, so he was kidding.
We are talking about vince here :D
look what he typed today.
That's only part of it. In China, all the facilities start the day off usually with pledging alliegience to Kim Jon Il followed by 30 minutes of exercise.
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Hamdullah Aykutlu was right up there
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Just today I got THE REAL STORY. It turns out he was using a drug (not sure which) that increases the thickness of the blood to promote a super compensation of glycogen in the muscles (to fill out during competition); somewhat like blood doping. His flight back to Germany caused dehydration (which long flights do). After landing he began drinking fluids and (I'm not a doctor, so I don't know how these factors led to his death) with his dehydrated state and very thick blood his liver basically disinegrated. I guess in his state if it wasn't the liver than something else would have gone -- he was basically a dead man walking at that point.
First his liver, then his kidney and to be continued his heart failed. After all this, his stomach was filled wis blood and he died. He refused a blood transfusion. Why? Don't know ... but I think, it was almost to late to bring him back.
Probably Erythropoeitin (sp) also known as EPO also known as Epogen. A genetically engineered version of the protein hormone formed by the kidneys that stimulates formation of red blood cells.
I was talking to someone who knew Andreas and they also said he was taking EPO before his death. As well as blood pressure medication and the numerous other drugs pros have to use today to stay in contention.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness.weights
Subject: The death anabolic plan of Andreas Münzer
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 13:09:13 GMT
10-9 Weeks before the Competition daily: Ephederine, AN 1, Captagon, Aspirine, Valium, Clenbuterol
8-6 weeks before the Competition daily: 2 injects Testoviron a 250 mg
1 inject Parabolan
30 tabletts Halotestin
30 tabletts Metandienon
20 IE* HGH
20 IE* Insuline
5-3 weeks before the Competition daily: 3 injects Masteron
2 injects Parabolan
30 tabletts Halotestin
50 tabletts Stromba
2 injects Stromba
24 IE* HGH
2-1 weeks before the Competition daily: 2 injects Masteron
2 injects Stromba
40 tabletts Halotestin
80 tabletts Stromba
24 IE* HGH
Insuline
IGF
A few days before the Competition: Aldactone, Lasix
:D
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What actually happens when you take a diuretic?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasix
Basic but will suffice.
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What actually happens when you take a diuretic?
you piss out every ounce of water in your system :-X
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Hamdullah Aykutlu was right up there
didnt they call him "the ripper"
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I remember he was very strict with his diet all year long. The closest we've seen to Andreas Munzer since his death is Iris Kyle.
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:D
thats fun to read, but that has long ago been kind of outed as internet lore
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:D
It blows me away every couple of years when that cycle is posted again. Can you imagine pinning yourself that often? No wonder they take pain pills.
I don't understand why valium is listed in his contest stack the first few weeks? That seems strange to me
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This guy
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This guy
so what was his time in the 100mm freestyle ?
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This guy
wow, thats the driest i have ever seen someone
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What actually happens when you take a diuretic?
The question was answered already, but you should know if you have ever drank coffee or alcohol since both are diuretic.
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As in Munster Cheese? ???
this guy
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The question was answered already, but you should know if you have ever drank coffee or alcohol since both are diuretic.
You'll have to run to the toilet the next morning and rapid fire shit with 500 PSI behind it?
I thought they just pulled all the water out and made you pee a lot? ???
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Munzer
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Munzer
thats an amazing pic, when people talk about the best quads of all time , munzer should be right at the top of the list
his quads are huge, detailed, and symmetrical
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What actually happens when you take a diuretic?
It depends on the type... you take a loop diuretic and it prevents your kidney from reabsorbing Na, Cl, K+ etc at the tubule level and because of osmotic forces water follows Na+ where it goes, so you end up peeing out a lot of water + solutes...
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crazy
When do judges start telling people like this that they are taking things a little too far? The next stop is rigor mortis.
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Hamdullah Aykutlu was right up there
thats what i was going to say...need to find the pics that really showed him ripped though..
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Munzer was way underrated - probably needed more arm and shoulder mass to really do damage
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I don't understand why valium is listed in his contest stack the first few weeks? That seems strange to me
Probably to counteract all the stimulants in his system. Also the trenbolone restlessness.
Otherwise he would be climbing the walls.
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how vascular was his penis
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Munzer combined furosemide, somatostatin C, plasma expander and erithropoietin in doses that are above what even the pros use. This combined with his freakish genetics for striations resulted in the ugly alien thing you can see in the picture posted in this thread.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Munzer was way underrated - probably needed more arm and shoulder mass to really do damage
prob right, woulda needed more chest back too then tho,,, goes to show being a "balanced" doesnt win, gotta have that "it" factor, usually with the upper body,legs ddidnt get people over, look at platz.
jay has some quads that get close to that munzer-like condi only bigger
far as title question, prob sickist condition to ever compete pro, vertical stris on the calf what was his bf% in those pics posted...
prob never got put over bc he didnt live long enough and hes a tough advocate toward the acceptance of bb'n mainstream, hes one that you gota sweep under a bit bc...
im wondering if his training routine and methods were as sick on the edge as his supp usage...
in reality who wouldnt rather be bigger and sacrifice cut n dry...
at what point is enough condition enough,,, its still body building
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all synthol!
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Or just go right to the source: AndreasMunzer.com (http://AndreasMunzer.com)
;D
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tbh todays bodybuilders suck. .. everyone looks flats as fuck
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As in Munster Cheese? ???
People on getbig consume fromunda cheese.
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wow, thats the driest i have ever seen someone
I find it pretty creepy that it repeats... :-X :-\ probably a schmoes work.
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Forget FLex being 0.0% BF at the 93 "O"...Andreas was -.01% BF
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he was definiately the most defined man ever
the reason for that
workethics only a german or somtimes austrian man could have
he also had the best quads ever (no doubt)
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regarding definition only the early coleman comes close
tody maybe iris kyle
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he was definiately the most defined man ever
the reason for that
workethics only a german or somtimes austrian man could have
he also had the best quads ever (no doubt)
his quads were mindblowingly perfect AND GIGANTIC
AND i dont know what the fuck he did, whether he came across an old ww2 cave with a secret-superhuman-nazi-science lab in it and found some superdrug
or if he sold his soul to the devil
no one in history even comes close to him conditioning-wise
this photo made my jaw drop.........he has 15% better conditioning then any other bodybuilder who ever lived
once in a while you see a competitor with a back vein popping through..............but he has thick veins running across his back
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=350316.0;attach=385130;image)
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From reading old MMI's Andy favoured lots of sets with quick 20-30 sec rests betwenn sets ala what Gironda preached , really chased the pump but still trying to keep his poundages as heavy as possible.
Great BB , such a shame he passed well before his time.
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From reading old MMI's Andy favoured lots of sets with quick 20-30 sec rests betwenn sets ala what Gironda preached , really chased the pump but still trying to keep his poundages as heavy as possible.
Great BB , such a shame he passed well before his time.
but, he died for you bitches....... :D :D
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but, he died for you bitches....... :D :D
haha indeed , the guy was a mutant , we will never really know what he was taking as that went with him so these supposed doses and cycles that pop up all the time really are not even worth the effort of reading.All we really know for sure is he did push the envelope in pursuit of crazy conditioning.
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his quads were mindblowingly perfect AND GIGANTIC
AND i dont know what the fuck he did, whether he came across an old ww2 cave with a secret-superhuman-nazi-science lab in it and found some superdrug
or if he sold his soul to the devil
no one in history even comes close to him conditioning-wise
this photo made my jaw drop.........he has 15% better conditioning then any other bodybuilder who ever lived
once in a while you see a competitor with a back vein popping through..............but he has thick veins running across his back
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=350316.0;attach=385130;image)
But he was smooth in the glute-hamstring area. Compare that to the king (who's still alive btw) ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=350316.0;attach=385130;image) (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/01%20ASC/2001ASC-RonnieColeman56.jpg)
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But he was smooth in the glute-hamstring area. Compare that to the king (who's still alive btw) ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=350316.0;attach=385130;image) (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/01%20ASC/2001ASC-RonnieColeman56.jpg)
i never said he had the best glute/hamstring of all time, i said he has arguably the best quads of all time
and he wasnt "smooth" anywhere, thye just werent his strongest bodypart
(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6601/sbasp13gx9.jpg)
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it s not about what he was taking, because there was nothing all the other pros didn t have acces also
i knew him personally and his mysterious was : he was never offseason he was eating clean for straight years
nobody really knows what killed him but i was told it was a combination of active gastric ulcer /perforation a special form of bloody hepatitis and cytadren what blocked cortisol so his body couldn t help itself
reason was maybe to excesive usage of orals over many years straight (hi gh15)
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But he was smooth in the glute-hamstring area. Compare that to the king (who's still alive btw) ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=350316.0;attach=385130;image) (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/01%20ASC/2001ASC-RonnieColeman56.jpg)
as smooth as you are smart
i hate you fat skinny internet kiddies who have never seen him in reality
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look at his smooth glutes
http://muscletime.com/gallery-33041
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as smooth as you are smart
i hate you fat skinny internet kiddies who have never seen him in reality
Yeah, I apologize greatly that I was 11 the time he passed away, and didn't see him in person as I had different interests at 11. My fault. ::)
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no no no and NO..........for the billionth time, you cant compare "gym-pump" photos to stage shots
completely different thing
yes gaspari had awesome conditioin, set a new precedent at the time........but never looked like munzer did on stage
Gaspari nutrition is been doing well for past years. Good for him
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look at his smooth glutes
http://muscletime.com/gallery-33041
lol...
(http://muscletime.com/gallery-22731)
(http://muscletime.com/gallery-22663)
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lol...
(http://muscletime.com/gallery-22731)
(http://muscletime.com/gallery-22663)
Coleman had more shredded glutes and hams at 287 pds than Munzer had in the 220s lol. But enough discussion about men in thongs for today, I start feeling creepy. :-X :-X
(http://www.all-stars.de/Portals/0/Shared/2009/News/ES-02/Ron%20Coleman/Ronnie_Coleman_photo340.jpg)
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well, it certainly didnt help him win any contests, now did it?
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Coleman had more shredded glutes and hams at 287 pds than Munzer had in the 220s lol. But enough discussion about men in thongs for today, I start feeling creepy. :-X :-X
(http://www.all-stars.de/Portals/0/Shared/2009/News/ES-02/Ron%20Coleman/Ronnie_Coleman_photo340.jpg)
its not about who had the more shredded glutes
in this case coleman is unique
but should we compare the definition of 285 pound coleman s quads
and you called andrea s glutes smooth what makes you look like a complete idiot
so take this and shut up
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All three had better backs than Cutler
(http://muscletime.com/gallery-22731)
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yes , i admit
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next to the great greek
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Coleman had more shredded glutes and hams at 287 pds than Munzer had in the 220s lol. But enough discussion about men in thongs for today, I start feeling creepy. :-X :-X
(http://www.all-stars.de/Portals/0/Shared/2009/News/ES-02/Ron%20Coleman/Ronnie_Coleman_photo340.jpg)
they were not more shredded............cole man just had insane, huge out-of-this-world black man glutes..........that munzer didnt have, they were not his strongest body part
but its not that colemans glutes were leaner, they were just more pronounced cause they were bigger and had deeper striations
(plus you will notice in the pics from the 90s,,,,,,,,competitors didnt jam their posing trunks up their asscrack like coleman started doing, so you cant see as much of munzers glute)
WOW do I sound like a fucking F@GGOT..... detailing the finer points of black mens glutes vs. white mens
kill me...... ::)
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I'll say it in every single post about Muntzer: never placed higher than 9th at the 'O. I think he would have deserved better. But that also shows (and I'll say that also every chance I get), the 90's were much more competitive than probably any other era.
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I'll say it in every single post about Muntzer: never placed higher than 9th at the 'O. I think he would have deserved better. But that also shows (and I'll say that also every chance I get), the 90's were much more competitive than probably any other era.
They were competitive, but Munzer placed where he did because he wasnt the biggest of guys, and he was blocky....didnt have flowing lines which kept him back. Especially given the company he was standing next to at the time...
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They were competitive, but Munzer placed where he did because he wasnt the biggest of guys, and he was blocky....didnt have flowing lines which kept him back. Especially given the company he was standing next to at the time...
He had striated but small triceps. When viewing the O's that he was in, he looked "odd", and lacked delt width, just a odd put together dude, who was super striated and ripped.
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They were competitive, but Munzer placed where he did because he wasnt the biggest of guys, and he was blocky....didnt have flowing lines which kept him back. Especially given the company he was standing next to at the time...
Isn't that exactly what I said. Who nowadays has "flowing" lines amongst the top Bbers except maybe Dex and Wolf to a certain extent?
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He had striated but small triceps. When viewing the O's that he was in, he looked "odd", and lacked delt width, just a odd put together dude, who was super striated and ripped.
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:K073o31EKxKLuM:http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9282/86024123.jpg&t=1)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Andreas%20Munzer/AndreasMunzer6.jpg)
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I'll say it in every single post about Muntzer: never placed higher than 9th at the 'O. I think he would have deserved better. But that also shows (and I'll say that also every chance I get), the 90's were much more competitive than probably any other era.
the 90's was the time I was introduced and appreciate bodybuilding......the class of the 90's were truly amazing: ray, levrone, dillet, flex, dorian, cormier, nasser and others......I miss those guys, but time goes on. these new breed of bodybuilders are different and they have to create their own identities and I can't compare them to the 90's.....every decade is unique in bodybuilding.....from 2011 to 2019, we'll see fresh new guys that will carry the torch for the better, I guess.
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He had striated but small triceps. When viewing the O's that he was in, he looked "odd", and lacked delt width, just a odd put together dude, who was super striated and ripped.
Once again, that's relatively true. You'd put him in a lineup today, he'd look the least odd next to most top pros. Most people don't have any idea of the criterias that differentiates one Bber from another, but when you talk about "flow" and proportions, you'd see that most people can sense that. Show Munzer's picture next to someone like Branch's, Vic's, Hide's or even Jay's and the vast majority will think Muntzer had a more flowing physique. Different times.
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munzer would have placed much higher had he been american and spoken english ( or better english)
MUCH BETTER.........
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the 90's was the time I was introduced and appreciate bodybuilding......the class of the 90's were truly amazing: ray, levrone, dillet, flex, dorian, cormier, nasser and others......I miss those guys, but time goes on. these new breed of bodybuilders are different and they have to create their own identities and I can't compare them to the 90's.....every decade is unique in bodybuilding.....from 2011 to 2019, we'll see fresh new guys that will carry the torch for the better, I guess.
Well said...
There is something nostalgic about what era you grew up in, or got into the sport, etc.....with EVERY sport. Every generation will say things like..."Yeah, we were all friends back then...not like these guys today..." and, "there was something special about it back then, not like now...." and in BB..."sure we took 2 dbol a day, but NOTHING compared to what they do today..."
Yeah...what was special, was that THEY were involved in it.
As someone great once said...The good ol days werent always good, and tomorrow aint as great as it see- ee- eeeems!
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munzer would have placed much higher had he been american and spoken english ( or better english)
MUCH BETTER.........
Not a chance...
Bennezzia placed great and couldnt speak much English at all, along with many others of that era...
There aint no interview portion of the show...they got rid of that years ago
BLOCKY is the word you're looking for
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Well said...
There is something nostalgic about what era you grew up in, or got into the sport, etc.....with EVERY sport. Every generation will say things like..."Yeah, we were all friends back then...not like these guys today..." and, "there was something special about it back then, not like now...." and in BB..."sure we took 2 dbol a day, but NOTHING compared to what they do today..."
Yeah...what was special, was that THEY were involved in it.
As someone great once said...The good ol days werent always good, and tomorrow aint as great as it see- ee- eeeems!
I had no interest in Bbing in the '90s. I only started when I set foot in a gym only about 4 years ago. Before I knew a lot about other "sports" but not Bbing. So I should think that the 2000's were the greatest years. But looking back, I actually consider it to be the worse years if you compare it to the so called golden Age and the '90s. Even if the '80s were poor as far as the competition is concerned (at least until Labrada challenged Haney's domination), there was a display of great physiques like Paris, De Mey, etc...And some incredible showings like Bannout in '83, Platz/Callendar/Padilla in '81,etc....Things people still talk about today. I doubt that we'll ever hear people recalling how great Dennis James or Gustavo looked like at the 'O in 2003.
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Not a chance...
Bennezzia placed great and couldnt speak much English at all, along with many others of that era...
There aint no interview portion of the show...they got rid of that years ago
BLOCKY is the word you're looking for
Mike Kefallianos is the modern day Munzer. European, small, shitty structure, but shredded as fuck - and won't ever make the Top spots no matter how hard he tries.
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Not a chance...
Bennezzia placed great and couldnt speak much English at all, along with many others of that era...
There aint no interview portion of the show...they got rid of that years ago
BLOCKY is the word you're looking for
really bob............blocky is the first thing you think when you look at this physique :-\ :-\
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Andreas%20Munzer/AndreasMunzer6.jpg)
(http://blog.europa-meister.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Andreas-Munzer.jpg)
(http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29891&d=1079797917)
(http://www.bodyfreaks.com/photoplog/images/1/1_Andreas_Munzer_photo31.jpg)
if he is "blocky" what does that make dorian?? or cutler for that matter...........stonehe nge??
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Not a chance...
Bennezzia placed great and couldnt speak much English at all, along with many others of that era...
There aint no interview portion of the show...they got rid of that years ago
BLOCKY is the word you're looking for
i would call it bad presentation/posing first of all
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Not a chance...
Bennezzia placed great and couldnt speak much English at all, along with many others of that era...
There aint no interview portion of the show...they got rid of that years ago
BLOCKY is the word you're looking for
And Benazziza was not blocky for that matter?
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Munzer was naturally skinny, an ectomorph. I wouldn't call him blocky. If you stuck him in this year's Olympia, he'd be 5th place.
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really bob............blocky is the first thing you think when you look at this physique :-\ :-\
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Andreas%20Munzer/AndreasMunzer6.jpg)
(http://blog.europa-meister.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Andreas-Munzer.jpg)
(http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29891&d=1079797917)
(http://www.bodyfreaks.com/photoplog/images/1/1_Andreas_Munzer_photo31.jpg)
if he is "blocky" what does that make dorian?? or cutler for that matter...........stonehe nge??
Blocky was one...arms too small, shoulder width/ narrow, not thick enough front to back....
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The most RIP'd. Sorry bad joke. Not the best looking physique but the guy got ridiculously shredded. Great quads.
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munzer would have placed much higher had he been american and spoken english ( or better english)
MUCH BETTER.........
so then how did Ronnie win all his mr O'S?
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so then how did Ronnie win all his mr O'S?
'Cause Ebonics is now America's first language.
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Sad thing is, only once he died, did he start getting attention - the wrong kind - , he was a bit underrated, and not being very well known didnt help.
Not many foreign based bbers make an impact.
Sure, he had flaws, but IMO, better than Cottrell, and Cottrell got good gifts.
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Two most ripped guys I've ever seen...Munzer and Renel Javier
great bicep split, always shredded, super strong too!
(http://www.musclememory.com/magCovers/md/md2808.jpg)
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Well said...
There is something nostalgic about what era you grew up in, or got into the sport, etc.....with EVERY sport. Every generation will say things like..."Yeah, we were all friends back then...not like these guys today..." and, "there was something special about it back then, not like now...." and in BB..."sure we took 2 dbol a day, but NOTHING compared to what they do today..."
Yeah...what was special, was that THEY were involved in it.
As someone great once said...The good ol days werent always good, and tomorrow aint as great as it see- ee- eeeems!
late 80's early 90's were the best for me!
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Sad thing is, only once he died, did he start getting attention - the wrong kind - , he was a bit underrated, and not being very well known didnt help.
Not many foreign based bbers make an impact.
Sure, he had flaws, but IMO, better than Cottrell, and Cottrell got good gifts.
That is because Cottrell was a All-Am boy fireman, whose image got him gifts, and he "hosedown" his schmoes. Guys like Charles Chairmonte and Dawadu should have placed well above him.
Problem is, the 90s were the epitome of the bodybuilding ideal. They combine the shape of the 70s, conditioning of the 80s (and better), with the size of today. Plus, the gene pool was better. Where are the Flexs the Levrones the Shawn Rays, the Dilletts, the Chris Cormiers, the Ronnies, the Dorians? All we have is cross between Flex and Levrone, a guy with a carbon copy smile of Shawn Ray (Richard Jones), and a Mr. O with half a back, with the other half with wrinkles...
Where ever you look in America, quality has fallen down, it is no longer Job #1, and bbing is a microcosm of that.
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That is because Cottrell was a All-Am boy fireman, whose image got him gifts, and he "hosedown" his schmoes. Guys like Charles Chairmonte and Dawadu should have placed well above him.
Problem is, the 90s were the epitome of the bodybuilding ideal. They combine the shape of the 70s, conditioning of the 80s (and better), with the size of today. Plus, the gene pool was better. Where are the Flexs the Levrones the Shawn Rays, the Dilletts, the Chris Cormiers, the Ronnies, the Dorians? All we have is cross between Flex and Levrone, a guy with a carbon copy smile of Shawn Ray (Richard Jones), and a Mr. O with half a back, with the other half with wrinkles...
Where ever you look in America, quality has fallen down, it is no longer Job #1, and bbing is a microcosm of that.
good post
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That is because Cottrell was a All-Am boy fireman, whose image got him gifts, and he "hosedown" his schmoes. Guys like Charles Chairmonte and Dawadu should have placed well above him.
Problem is, the 90s were the epitome of the bodybuilding ideal. They combine the shape of the 70s, conditioning of the 80s (and better), with the size of today. Plus, the gene pool was better. Where are the Flexs the Levrones the Shawn Rays, the Dilletts, the Chris Cormiers, the Ronnies, the Dorians? All we have is cross between Flex and Levrone, a guy with a carbon copy smile of Shawn Ray (Richard Jones), and a Mr. O with half a back, with the other half with wrinkles...
Where ever you look in America, quality has fallen down, it is no longer Job #1, and bbing is a microcosm of that.
good post
80& early 90s were best
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as sliced as Munzer was Im suprised how his lower back didnt have a ripped christmas tree, no striations just a few wrinkles ???
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Munzer Schmunzer.
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I wana be blocky like this
(http://www.bodyfreaks.com/photoplog/images/1/1_Andreas_Munzer_photo31.jpg)