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Fucking Unbelievable :o
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Thanks Kevin but Ronnie a non prime Ronnie is destroying you and nassole.
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Thanks Kevin but Ronnie a non prime Ronnie is destroying you and nassole.
wow...do you remember the kev vs phil heath thread? that kev would crush phil (100% version) at the 2010 O on structure alone. and he had legs than. i wont even bother adding ronnie.
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Fucking Unbelievable :o
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wow...do you remember the kev vs phil heath thread? that kev would crush phil (100% version) at the 2010 O on structure alone. and he had legs than. i wont even bother adding ronnie.
You are correct in this case.
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yates killed them all
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some call the cops, looks like someone stole Nassar's lats ....
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yates killed them all
^^
this
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Don't know whetehr it's lighting but everyone looks great here, absolutely destroys todays Olympia.
Apart from Yates, he looks like shit like normal. :)
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Kevin at 99 GP from a different angle.
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Further proof that bodybuildng has not progressed since the 90s >:(
As for Dorian looking like "shit" . . .
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Kevin looked amazing here too...his best ever?
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Further proof that bodybuildng has not progressed since the 90s >:(
As for Dorian looking like "shit" . . .
Dorian would beat Ronnie , Jay and Dexter all at their best in the same contest ;D
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Coleman and Yates doing the exact same pose at the exact same distance:
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg842/scaled.php?tn=0&server=842&filename=colemanyatescomparison.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
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Coleman and Yates doing the exact same pose at the exact same distance:
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg842/scaled.php?tn=0&server=842&filename=colemanyatescomparison.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
Ronnie has a bit of the old Phil Heath clavicle issue going on compared to Yates ;D
look how much of a difference calves make to complete the physique Dorian outclassing Ronnie no wonder why Ronnie said on multiple occasions he couldn't touch him
and for all fan-boys Ronnie isn't at his best? neither is Dorian ;)
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Dorian would beat Ronnie , Jay and Dexter all at their best in the same contest ;D
Arnold would beat everyone mentioned above regardless how he looked ..
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Arnold would beat everyone mentioned above regardless how he looked ..
:o ;D
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:o ;D
that's right. no one beats the Alpha Male and his win has been guaranteed the moment he penned his name on the competitor's list.
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Tamali has been very consistent.. Looking like shit since he touched the dumbbell.
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Ronnie has a bit of the old Phil Heath clavicle issue going on compared to Yates ;D
look how much of a difference calves make to complete the physique Dorian outclassing Ronnie no wonder why Ronnie said on multiple occasions he couldn't touch him
and for all fan-boys Ronnie isn't at his best? neither is Dorian ;)
Good analysis. Also keep in mind Dorian would absolutely destroy Ronnie from the back here.
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Good analysis. Also keep in mind Dorian would absolutely destroy Ronnie from the back here.
absolutely ;D
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Fucking Unbelievable
Dorian looks ridiculous here. Just ridiculous. Like a cartoon character. His muscles are so absurdly dense and dry. No way Ronnie beats this. I am sorry. Ronnie would have to overcome Dorian with sheer mass to beat this. No way he would stand a chance at same bodyweight. Dorian at 255-265 lbs has the lean muscle tissue that Coleman had at 285 lbs without the water.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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absolutely ;D
Dorian wins in back; Ronnie in arms.
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Dorian wins in back; Ronnie in arms.
Ronnie wins in biceps ;)
Dorian murder's him poses forget parts
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Further proof that bodybuildng has not progressed since the 90s >:(
As for Dorian looking like "shit" . . .
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Yates was absolutely dominating. Probably the most dominating bodybuilder in history with Arnold right there as well. And this was during the ultra competitive '90s.
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The mid 1990's were awesome. The dryness and density these guys attained was awesome. No all the pros look like water weanies. It's fucking sad. Ronnie, Jay, etc. have NEVER looked as dry as Dorian in his prime. Dorian was fucking awesome in the department.
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Nasser fan or not you gotta admit he was unreal there
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When I first watched the video I wanted to see Dorian, but then when the video started and saw Kevin I was in shock, I don't know if it was the lightning or what but his shape and size was unreal.
And let's be realistic Phil would have stand a chance near Kevin.
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MID 90'SSS = GOLDEN ERA OF BBING...
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nasser = most complete lower body in the 90s!!..
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nasser = most complete lower body in the 90s!!..
lmao Nasser Mr Olympia from the waist down
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Further proof that bodybuildng has not progressed since the 90s >:(
As for Dorian looking like "shit" . . .
wow
wow
made some posts while back makin mention never really fan of dorian at all but started to respect what he did after time on this board. now even more so after seein that vid. he really was one of top 3 all time. even his routine was cool, kept it strong matched the build. which i cant help but to wonder with all the chatter of oil (no shade toward kev bc he is in title)out there maybe its no wonder with dorian. he looks brick (minus the bi tear which of course hurt him ) and he made the best with what he had, being everything. no one else was carrying that muscle like that.
re dorian
training is everything, look at the best, ron dor arn lee in mind right away.theres no faking it whatsoever when you stand on stage, theres "homework" to be done if not, i guess theres ways of cheatin a lil,then again one edge dif from another so.. you get my point.
a lot of credit to jay while he may not be recognized as a plate slinger, although he really does move soem hvyweight at times, he did train for sustained time over the years with out injury. during a time when everyone was chasin perhaps the biggest, ronnie. such as kevlev, slingin heavy plate benchs, presses, those 100 inyahface. heath is themodernday kevlev. maybe dif if he wins an o. or is there by chance a dark horse, similar to ronnies beginning, that will have been walking off the stage when winners were anounced, someone below hype radar, ovrlookd, from no where. at the time wasnt dorian and kev battling ronnie was no where near...
same thing could happen today.
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Further proof that bodybuildng has not progressed since the 90s >:(
As for Dorian looking like "shit" . . .
Torn bicep, horrible arms, weird quad shape, bloated gut..............its not something I'd say looks great.
He did have 3 great things about his physique though: muscle size advantage, superb conditioning and great balance. Which is why he won everytime and dominated, that's what set him apart from the rest.......but I still think that's not a good physique.
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:o ;D
Great pic.
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Dorian looking like shit as per normal and getting dominated from the front by Nasser, Kev, Ronnie, actually everyone else in the video.
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Torn bicep, horrible arms, weird quad shape, bloated gut..............its not something I'd say looks great.
He did have 3 great things about his physique though: muscle size advantage, superb conditioning and great balance. Which is why he won everytime and dominated, that's what set him apart from the rest.......but I still think that's not a good physique.
other than his biceps his arms were fine in fact his triceps were awesome and his forearms were great weird quad shape? ??? listening to Hulkster to long?
he dominated everyone with a not so good physique , makes sense to me ::)
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Dorian looking like shit as per normal and getting dominated from the front by Nasser, Kev, Ronnie, actually everyone else in the video.
Dorian's front latspread and ab-thigh kill anyone's in that contest with ease , Nasser come close in the ab-thigh but he's the only one
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Coleman and Yates doing the exact same pose at the exact same distance:
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg842/scaled.php?tn=0&server=842&filename=colemanyatescomparison.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
holy shit ronnie is getting destroyed
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other than his biceps his arms were fine in fact his triceps were awesome and his forearms were great weird quad shape? ??? listening to Hulkster to long?
he dominated everyone with a not so good physique , makes sense to me ::)
other than his biceps his arms were fine in fact his triceps were awesome and his forearms were great weird quad shape? ??? listening to Hulkster to long?
His arms were ok at best, but compare them with the arms of bodybuilders known for having great arms (Ronnie, Priest, Heath, even Arnold and Sergio), his arms were not good at all, including both biceps and triceps. Forearms were ok, in good proportion with his upper arms, but that's it.
His vastus lateralis muscle was never totally developed, at least it had poor separation with the rest of the quad muscles. That's what I meant with weird shape, again compare it to others.
he dominated everyone with a not so good physique , makes sense to me ::)
Yes it makes sense. I admit he was dominant and beat everyone without question as far as judging criteria is concerned. But I personally disliked his physique, it didn't look good to my eyes. I have the same opinion about Cutler and a post 2001 Ronnie.
Putting judging criteria aside, do you think Dorian's physique is good? Do you actually see it as a physique to strive for?
If you see a pic of Arnold or Flex, wouldn't you say that looks 100x better?
See my point?
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Dorian's front latspread and ab-thigh kill anyone's in that contest with ease , Nasser come close in the ab-thigh but he's the only one
Dorian's front latspread consists of great lat flare. Probably the best, that's it though, everything else is subpar.
His ab thigh was good, a lot of cuts in his waist, but his legs lacked cuts. Nasser's was better imo.
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Where would either of these versions of KL have placed in this year's Mr. O??
Btw, to say Dorian had subpar Tris or forearms is ludicrous. His side-tri is arguably the best ever imo.
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His arms were ok at best, but compare them with the arms of bodybuilders known for having great arms (Ronnie, Priest, Heath, even Arnold and Sergio), his arms were not good at all, including both biceps and triceps. Forearms were ok, in good proportion with his upper arms, but that's it.
His vastus lateralis muscle was never totally developed, at least it had poor separation with the rest of the quad muscles. That's what I meant with weird shape, again compare it to others.
Yes it makes sense. I admit he was dominant and beat everyone without question as far as judging criteria is concerned. But I personally disliked his physique, it didn't look good to my eyes. I have the same opinion about Cutler and a post 2001 Ronnie.
Putting judging criteria aside, do you think Dorian's physique is good? Do you actually see it as a physique to strive for?
If you see a pic of Arnold or Flex, wouldn't you say that looks 100x better?
See my point?
His arms were ok at best, but compare them with the arms of bodybuilders known for having great arms (Ronnie, Priest, Heath, even Arnold and Sergio), his arms were not good at all, including both biceps and triceps. Forearms were ok, in good proportion with his upper arms, but that's it.
His vastus lateralis muscle was never totally developed, at least it had poor separation with the rest of the quad muscles. That's what I meant with weird shape, again compare it to others.
now compared his side triceps to any of the guys mentioned and Yates kills them all , that's how it works. his quads were just fine people trying to trump up imaginary flaws you have to look at the entire pose and Dorian again dominates the ab-thigh that's how it's done
Yes it makes sense. I admit he was dominant and beat everyone without question as far as judging criteria is concerned. But I personally disliked his physique, it didn't look good to my eyes. I have the same opinion about Cutler and a post 2001 Ronnie.
Putting judging criteria aside, do you think Dorian's physique is good? Do you actually see it as a physique to strive for?
If you see a pic of Arnold or Flex, wouldn't you say that looks 100x better?
See my point?
Dorian's physique at his best is good absolutely , would I want to look like that? NO and when I look at pics of Dorian in poses he looks 100X better than Arnold and Flex and the same can be said about them
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Where would either of these versions of KL have placed in this year's Mr. O??
Btw, to say Dorian had subpar Tris or forearms is ludicrous. His side-tri is arguably the best ever imo.
That's my point lots of guys have better arms , but how many touch him in the side triceps? next to no one , lots of guys have tiny waists and great v-taper how many touch Dorian in the front latspread? next to none , these guys keep harping on parts when the whole is what wins contests , how do all of those parts fit together? how are they in relation to one another?
Ronnie , Priest , Heath and Arnold can't touch Dorian in that pose despite their great arms , the one who comes the closest is Heath but as a whole he doesn't beat it.
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Btw, to say Dorian had subpar Tris or forearms is ludicrous. His side-tri is arguably the best ever imo.
His side-tri is amongst the best ever not because of his tricep, but because of how his whole physique looks in that pose, very thick, dense and dry.
If you compare his triceps (or overall arms) with guys that actually had great arms, you would see a difference.
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That's my point lots of guys have better arms , but how many touch him in the side triceps? next to no one , lots of guys have tiny waists and great v-taper how many touch Dorian in the front latspread? next to none , these guys keep harping on parts when the whole is what wins contests , how do all of those parts fit together? how are they in relation to one another?
Ronnie , Priest , Heath and Arnold can't touch Dorian in that pose despite their great arms , the one who comes the closest is Heath but as a whole he doesn't beat it.
I agree, never said anything different. All I said was guys like Priest, Dillet, Ronnie, Arnold, etc had better arms than Dorian and that his arms were not good.
I never said they should've beaten Dorian or Dorian shouldn't have won.
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His side-tri is amongst the best ever not because of his tricep, but because of how his whole physique looks in that pose, very thick, dense and dry.
If you compare his triceps (or overall arms) with guys that actually had great arms, you would see a difference.
Paul Demayo beats Dorian in the side tricep pose, all day...
(http://www.bodybuildingfanatic.com/paul-demayo.jpg)
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now compared his side triceps to any of the guys mentioned and Yates kills them all , that's how it works. his quads were just fine people trying to trump up imaginary flaws you have to look at the entire pose and Dorian again dominates the ab-thigh that's how it's done
Dorian's physique at his best is good absolutely , would I want to look like that? NO and when I look at pics of Dorian in poses he looks 100X better than Arnold and Flex and the same can be said about them
now compared his side triceps to any of the guys mentioned and Yates kills them all , that's how it works. his quads were just fine people trying to trump up imaginary flaws you have to look at the entire pose and Dorian again dominates the ab-thigh that's how it's done
Exactly, but his side tricep pose kills the rest because his overall physique is better as far as judging criteria, not because his triceps alone are something special. I never said he loses a side tricep pose by the way, all I said is his arms were poor.
If Dorian's quads were fine, then so were Ronnie's abs. ;D
Dorian's physique at his best is good absolutely , would I want to look like that? NO and when I look at pics of Dorian in poses he looks 100X better than Arnold and Flex and the same can be said about them
So putting judging criteria mentality aside, Dorian looks better than Arnold or Flex to you?
I've to disagree.
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Paul Demayo beats Dorian in the side tricep pose, all day...
(http://www.bodybuildingfanatic.com/paul-demayo.jpg)
I disagree...
balance, proportion, symettry, hardness
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Paul Demayo beats Dorian in the side tricep pose, all day...
(http://www.bodybuildingfanatic.com/paul-demayo.jpg)
Maybe in the triceps but as a whole nope
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His side-tri is amongst the best ever not because of his tricep, but because of how his whole physique looks in that pose, very thick, dense and dry.
If you compare his triceps (or overall arms) with guys that actually had great arms, you would see a difference.
No the tricep has nothing at all to do with the pose looking great ::)
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Paul Demayo beats Dorian in the side tricep pose, all day...
(http://www.bodybuildingfanatic.com/paul-demayo.jpg)
I don't know, but this pic alone proves what I was trying to say.
Paul Demayo's triceps destroy Dorian's triceps, but overall Dorian wins the pose.
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Exactly, but his side tricep pose kills the rest because his overall physique is better as far as judging criteria, not because his triceps alone are something special. I never said he loses a side tricep pose by the way, all I said is his arms were poor.
If Dorian's quads were fine, then so were Ronnie's abs. ;D
So putting judging criteria mentality aside, Dorian looks better than Arnold or Flex to you?
I've to disagree.
If you think the above arm is poor by any definition of the word , please get a new eye prescription
Ronnie's abs were fine but his ab-thigh sucked compared to Dorian
In some poses Dorian looks better than Arnold & Flex regardless of the criteria
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No the tricep has nothing at all to do with the pose looking great ::)
Oh yes it does, don't twist my words.
All I'm saying is Dorian's triceps (or overall arms) were nothing special. Compare his side triceps pose with guys like Levrone, Priest, etc. they all have better triceps, but overall lose the pose. You just said so with Paul Demayo............
Your pic of Dorian here proves my what I'm trying to say.
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I don't know, but this pic alone proves what I was trying to say.
Paul Demayo's triceps destroy Dorian's triceps, but overall Dorian wins the pose.
think proportions have something there
was thinkn tho, if you add the extra mass to the frame in that pics, mainly chest back trap leg even midsection,,, would the arm really "look" the same.
think his arm is shrdd yes and great build, thats the way he made his proportions... only really control we have as bbrs
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Oh yes it does, don't twist my words.
All I'm saying is Dorian's triceps (or overall arms) were nothing special. Compare his side triceps pose with guys like Levrone, Priest, etc. they all have better triceps, but overall lose the pose. You just said so with Paul Demayo............
Your pic of Dorian here proves my what I'm trying to say.
You said he had poor arms it's impossible to have among the best side triceps of all time with poor arms it can't be done sorry
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Dorian's condition is unmatched! Just look at this, no a drop of water, fat, or anything, just a brick shithouse of muscle.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=351585.0;attach=386958;image)
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HOLY SHIT DORIAN WAS A BEAST!!!
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HOLY SHIT DORIAN WAS A BEAST!!!
That doesn't sound gay AT ALL ::) ::) ::)
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HOLY SHIT NASSER WAS A BEAST!!!
He sure was!
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He sure was!
The Beast With No Back
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The Beast With No Back
Actually his back width was right up there
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Actually his back width was right up there
280lbs his back width was right up there with guys who weight 40lbs less ;D and back width was right up there? to bad the separation , development , detail , thickness and density all weren't maybe the guy would have won the big one.
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Actually his back width was right up there
Back width with subpar back detail, epic lack of mind muscle connection ;D. He was all front
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Back width with subpar back detail, epic lack of mind muscle connection ;D. He was all front
even if we consider his back a bad part (it's not) still the rear doesnt mean the back only to say he was only a front bb!!.. he had one of the greatest calves and hams and the rear of his shoulders and arms were 2nd to none!!..
levrone for example had better back details than nasser but did he have better calves, hams, rear shoulders, arms??... nooooooooo...
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There is not a single pose that Dorian looks better in than a prime Flex or Arnold.
If you asked a million people 99% would say that Arnold and Flex destroyed dorian.
The differences in shape, aesthetics, structure and flow are almost beyond comprehension.
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There is not a single pose that Dorian looks better in than a prime Flex or Arnold.
If you asked a million people 99% would say that Arnold and Flex destroyed dorian.
The differences in shape, aesthetics, structure and flow are almost beyond comprehension.
Or the other way around, is there any pose that Arnold or Flex could beat Dorian in? Maybe front double bi after Dorian's bicep tear. That's about it.
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Or the other way around, is there any pose that Arnold or Flex could beat Dorian in? Maybe front double bi after Dorian's bicep tear. That's about it.
::) ::) It's pretty clear that Dorian wouldn't win anything. All Dorian had was conditioning, that along with some of the worst genetics to ever grace a bodybuilding stage.
You transport him back to the seventies, where he can't megadose on slin, HGH and dieuretics and Arnold would make him look like a child.
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::) ::) It's pretty clear that Dorian wouldn't win anything. All Dorian had was conditioning, that along with some of the worst genetics to ever grace a bodybuilding stage.
You transport him back to the seventies, where he can't megadose on slin, HGH and dieuretics and Arnold would make him look like a child.
its pretty clear you dont understand bodybuilding judging.
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holy shit ronnie is getting destroyed
well, ronnie ha sbetter pecs bis and quads
everything else goes to yates
but remember ronnie was 35lbs below his best 295lbs at 2004 Mr O
anyway....top then of the 90s would place ahead of cutler any day
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Further proof that bodybuildng has not progressed since the 90s >:(
As for Dorian looking like "shit" . . .
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Yates was absolutely dominating. Probably the most dominating bodybuilder in history with Arnold right there as well. And this was during the ultra competitive '90s.
Calves look great.
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::) ::) It's pretty clear that Dorian wouldn't win anything. All Dorian had was conditioning, that along with some of the worst genetics to ever grace a bodybuilding stage.
You transport him back to the seventies, where he can't megadose on slin, HGH and dieuretics and Arnold would make him look like a child.
hehehehehehe worst genetics to ever grace a bodybuilding stage ;D
smart guy you are
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There is not a single pose that Dorian looks better in than a prime Flex or Arnold.
If you asked a million people 99% would say that Arnold and Flex destroyed dorian.
The differences in shape, aesthetics, structure and flow are almost beyond comprehension.
Says you , I say other wise , Arnold or Flex at their best can't touch Dorian in a front latspread or a rear , couldn't touch Dorian in a side-triceps or back double biceps
the difference in density , dryness , thickness , balance and muscularity are almost beyond comprehension.
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I think Yates looked great at the 1991 Night Of Champions.
After that his torso made his arms look poor.
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even if we consider his back a bad part (it's not) still the rear doesnt mean the back only to say he was only a front bb!!.. he had one of the greatest calves and hams and the rear of his shoulders and arms were 2nd to none!!..
levrone for example had better back details than nasser but did he have better calves, hams, rear shoulders, arms??... nooooooooo...
His back is bad , his back is horrible you can't escape that and neither could he , his back was a huge ( no pun ) flaw and cost him the Olympia , his back was wide and that's it , it had no separation , no detail , no thickness , no depth , and no hardness
anyone who says his back wasn't a ' bad part ' needs to learn a lot about bodybuilding
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Or the other way around, is there any pose that Arnold or Flex could beat Dorian in? Maybe front double bi after Dorian's bicep tear. That's about it.
Great post !
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I think Yates looked great at the 1991 Night Of Champions.
After that his torso made his arms look poor.
that pic is my favorite 'front' Dorian pic (no homo)
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I think I know who beats who in these shots
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Ronnie has a bit of the old Phil Heath clavicle issue going on compared to Yates ;D
look how much of a difference calves make to complete the physique Dorian outclassing Ronnie no wonder why Ronnie said on multiple occasions he couldn't touch him
and for all fan-boys Ronnie isn't at his best? neither is Dorian ;)
Ronnie always was a tad narrow in the clavicles. His delt improvements from 97 to 98 were a big deal for this reason. Dorian is dominating that shot, although it's not an official pose, it's amazing the progress Ronnie would later make, but yes Dorian is owning there, passed his best, although his lats and delts got even more massive towards the end whilst his arms and quads/hams got smaller.
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sick back on yates but too big waist to be a pleasing physique.
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sick back on yates but too big waist to be a pleasing physique.
to have a too small waist is 100 percent gay
wheeler and friends have females's waistlines