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Olbermann contributed to three Dems
By: Simmi Aujla
November 5, 2010 06:00 AM EDT '
www.politico.com
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MSNBC host Keith Olbermann made campaign contributions to two Arizona members of Congress and failed Kentucky Senate candidate Jack Conway ahead of Tuesday’s election — a potential violation of NBC ethics policies.
Olbermann, who acknowledged the contributions in a statement to POLITICO, made the maximum legal donations of $2,400 apiece to Conway and to Arizona Reps. Raul Grijalva and Gabrielle Giffords. He donated to the Arizona pair on Oct. 28 — the same day that Grijalva appeared as a guest on Olbermann’s “Countdown” show.
Grijalva, a prominent liberal who was just declared a winner in his race Thursday night, was in a tight contest against tea-party-backed candidate Ruth McClung when he appeared on "Countdown" — one of several appearances he made on the show.
NBC has a rule against employees contributing to political campaigns, and a wide range of news organizations prohibit political contributions — considering it a breach of journalistic independence to contribute to the candidates they cover.
Olbermann, who has become one of the most prominent liberal commentators on cable television, has been a critic of the political donations made by Fox News’s parent company, News Corp., which contributed $1 million each to a pair of organizations trying to defeat Democratic candidates.
MSNBC President Phil Griffin also tweaked rival network Fox over the contributions. “Show me an example of us fundraising,” Griffin told The New York Times last month.
POLITICO discovered the Olbermann donation to Grijalva in a Federal Election Commission filing, and when MSNBC was asked for a comment, it forwarded a statement from Olbermann:
“One week ago, on the night of Thursday October 28 2010, after a discussion with a friend about the state of politics in Arizona, I donated $2,400 each to the reelection campaigns of Democratic Representatives Raul Grijalva and Gabrielle Giffords,” Olbermann said. “I also donated the same amount to the campaign of Democratic Senatorial candidate Jack Conway in Kentucky.”
In his statement, Olbermann said he wasn’t using his influence to solicit any donations for the candidates.
“I did not privately or publicly encourage anyone else to donate to these campaigns, nor to any others in this election or any previous ones, nor have I previously donated to any political campaign at any level,” Olbermann said.
Under FEC rules, an individual donor may give only $2,400 to a candidate per general election campaign. The FEC filings for Olbermann’s contributions list an address that is a Mailboxes Etc. storefront in New York, and it also lists his occupation as a newscaster for NBC Television.
MSNBC declined to comment on Olbermann.
“Countdown With Keith Olbermann” started in 2003 as a traditional news show but evolved into a left-leaning opinion program. Olbermann has tripled MSNBC’s ratings at 8 p.m., and much of the network’s recent evolution has followed his lead. In the past two years, MSNBC’s left-leaning opinionated hosts have helped propel it past CNN in prime time, and even lately during the daytime, too.
MSNBC has branded Olbermann as a prominent face in its new “Lean Forward” marketing campaign, which has been designed to show that the network clearly wants to be the cable news voice of the left, but the company has a policy that warns against political contributions.
A 2007 MSNBC.com story laid out the rules for the network regarding such contributions:
"Anyone working for NBC News who takes part in civic or other outside activities may find that these activities jeopardize his or her standing as an impartial journalist because they may create the appearance of a conflict of interest. Such activities may include participation in or contributions to political campaigns or groups that espouse controversial positions. You should report any such potential conflicts in advance to, and obtain prior approval of, the president of NBC News or his designee.”
News Corp., the parent company of Fox News, came under fire from liberals during the past election cycle for its contributions to the Republican Governors Association and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
On Oct. 7, Olbermann had House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) on his show to discuss the donations. At one point, he asked Clyburn: “Is there a legislative response to the idea that there is a national cable-news outlet that goes beyond having a point of view and actually starts to shill for partisan causes and actually starts to donate to partisan groups of one party?”
Olbermann’s contributions came amid a brutal campaign season for Democrats.
Giffords had appeared on Olbermann’s program in May, as did Conway. During his more recent broadcasts, Olbermann also made frequent references to the “Aqua Buddha” controversy involving Conway’s Republican Senate rival, Rand Paul, who handily won election Tuesday.
Grijalva had seemed to be in a safe race until the month before the election, when he became targeted by outside groups. In mid-October, national Democratic interests began putting money into his district to compete with fundraising for McClung from outside conservative groups.
On Oct. 28, Grijalva went on Olbermann’s show and fielded questions about a story linking profit motives of private prisons to Arizona's new immigration crackdown. It was the sixth time Grijalva had appeared on "Countdown" in a little more than the past six months.
Grijalva not only opposed the immigration law — known as S.B. 1070 — but inadvertently put himself in electoral jeopardy by calling for an economic boycott of his own home state in response, a move that didn't go over so well with cash-strapped Arizonans.
"It's almost extraordinary to believe that once we got past the original phony reason for it, which was security at the border, when obviously it didn't pertain to that whatsoever, that the real reason behind that was well, this is to intimidate people of Hispanic descent. Well, it turns out there's an even more base, cynical reason behind it. Am I wrong about this?" Olbermann asked. "Is there anything you can tell us about the relationship between these private prisons and the lawmakers who supported this monstrosity of a bill?”
Grijalva responded: "It is a wonderful I-told-you-so moment."
Keach Hagey contributed to this report.
© 2010 Capitol News Company, LLC
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hahaha!! nice!
I nominate
Countdown with Drinking With Bob
as the replacement!
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Drinking w bob would be great.
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Drinking w bob would be great.
240 is Back likes this
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240 is Back likes this
They will probably give it to some other loon on the left like Nate Silver, O'Donnell, etc.
They need to get someone on the right over there.
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Who freaking cares if political commentators give money to candidates?Geeze,Olbermann shills for libs every single night,is it a surprise he gives money to them as well.I thought in America we had the right to free association.This is stupid.I could see if he was a legit news guy,the guy is a political commentator who gives opinions.Another sad example of a loss of freedom in America.
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50% of Americans think the MSM is too liberal.
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Who freaking cares if political commentators give money to candidates?Geeze,Olbermann shills for libs every single night,is it a surprise he gives money to them as well.I thought in America we had the right to free association.This is stupid.I could see if he was a legit news guy,the guy is a political commentator who gives opinions.Another sad example of a loss of freedom in America.
They were probably looking for a reason to get rid of him.
He is simply unwatchable.
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They were probably looking for a reason to get rid of him.
He is simply unwatchable.
I agree with that and there are few human beings I hate more.But the guy is an opinion maker,not a news guy.He is a blatant lib who shills for libs,why shouldnt he be allowed to give money to libs?What doi you think helps libs running for office more?Olbermann shilling for them on a totally liberal network everynight,or him giving 2,500 dollars?
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I agree with that and there are few human beings I hate more.But the guy is an opinion maker,not a news guy.He is a blatant lib who shills for libs,why shouldnt he be allowed to give money to libs?What doi you think helps libs running for office more?Olbermann shilling for them on a totally liberal network everynight,or him giving 2,500 dollars?
I don't watch much TV at all, but will tell you - I simply cant watch him.
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the quality of his show has dropped in the last 2 years. he was VERY good as a Bush attack dog - he had his facts, and while he was a tad dramatic at times, he did a good job at pointing out Repub's flaws.
At this point, he is being forced to DEFEND the dems - and attack dogs aren't good at defense. He mocks Boehnner's orange skin color instead of policy, etc.
He's a lot like Palin, actually. he's good at poking at flaws at the party in charge (gotcha points and one-liners), but when it comes to defending the party in charge, he's a fumbling mess.
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the quality of his show has dropped in the last 2 years. he was VERY good as a Bush attack dog - he had his facts, and while he was a tad dramatic at times, he did a good job at pointing out Repub's flaws.
At this point, he is being forced to DEFEND the dems - and attack dogs aren't good at defense. He mocks Boehnner's orange skin color instead of policy, etc.
He's a lot like Palin, actually. he's good at poking at flaws at the party in charge (gotcha points and one-liners), but when it comes to defending the party in charge, he's a fumbling mess.
240 - my issue is that there is simply no real debate or new making going on.
They get a bunch of liberal jewish dweebs from upper west side of manhattan to kneepad for Obama and thats it. Who the hell wants to watch that?
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the quality of his show has dropped in the last 2 years. he was VERY good as a Bush attack dog - he had his facts, and while he was a tad dramatic at times, he did a good job at pointing out Repub's flaws.
At this point, he is being forced to DEFEND the dems - and attack dogs aren't good at defense. He mocks Boehnner's orange skin color instead of policy, etc.
He's a lot like Palin, actually. he's good at poking at flaws at the party in charge (gotcha points and one-liners), but when it comes to defending the party in charge, he's a fumbling mess.
The reason I cant stand him is not his liberal views,not his politics,its the way he has to snort after every sentance he finnishes and almost cant controll his own laughter at his own wit and humor.Its as though every line he utters he thinks its almost beyond brilliant and he can barely contain himself at how bright he thinks he is and how entertaining and amusing he thinks he is.But the fact is,he is not entertaining nor amusing.He is a Dennis Miller wannabe without the wit or humor.If you could buy him for what he is worth and sell him for what he thinks he is worth you would be the richest man on the planet.
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I don't watch MSNBC because they never debate, its all lib all the time.
I like when Pat B. is on Morning Joe when I wake up for some reality, but thats it.
They had on Dashcle this morning to talk up obamacare. Ha ha ha ::) ::)
How retarded are these people? Even joe S. is a fair weathered conservative at best.
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Who freaking cares if political commentators give money to candidates?Geeze,Olbermann shills for libs every single night,is it a surprise he gives money to them as well.I thought in America we had the right to free association.This is stupid.I could see if he was a legit news guy,the guy is a political commentator who gives opinions.Another sad example of a loss of freedom in America.
Free association doesn't apply if it was clearly stated in his contract he was not allowed to do so. Contractual agreements supersede given rights as you are voluntarily giving up said rights when signing the agreement. If you don't like the terms, negotiate to have them altered or work somewhere else.
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Free association doesn't apply if it was clearly stated in his contract he was not allowed to do so. Contractual agreements supersede given rights as you are voluntarily giving up said rights when signing the agreement. If you don't like the terms, negotiate to have them altered or work somewhere else.
True - you would think he would have at least looked into that before sending $ $ $
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I don't watch MSNBC because they never debate, its all lib all the time.
I like when Pat B. is on Morning Joe when I wake up for some reality, but thats it.
They had on Dashcle this morning to talk up obamacare. Ha ha ha ::) ::)
How retarded are these people? Even joe S. is a fair weathered conservative at best.
i wake up to Morning Joe, too.
He gives me just a little woody.
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Free association doesn't apply if it was clearly stated in his contract he was not allowed to do so. Contractual agreements supersede given rights as you are voluntarily giving up said rights when signing the agreement. If you don't like the terms, negotiate to have them altered or work somewhere else.
The point is,its a stupid clause.Is MSNBC trying to pretend its a news network?Its an opinion network.Olbermann is not a newsman,he is a left wing opinion man.Id say he is like a left wing Rush,but Rush has talent and an audiance,but you get the point.If the clause is there so MSNBC can pretend its a legit news network then thats just plain silly and not fooling anyone.
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The point is,its a stupid clause.Is MSNBC trying to pretend its a news network?Its an opinion network.Olbermann is not a newsman,he is a left wing opinion man.Id say he is like a left wing Rush,but Rush has talent and an audiance,but you get the point.If the clause is there so MSNBC can pretend its a legit news network then thats just plain silly and not fooling anyone.
So they should just throw out ethics because you know, they are stupid and stuff?
Good call.
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So they should just throw out ethics because you know, they are stupid and stuff?
Good call.
Keith O signed a contract - he needs to be held to it.
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Keith O signed a contract - he needs to be held to it.
agreed.
when you become a cop or schoolteacher, you're not allowed to work nights as a pole dancer either.
Code of ethics.
No matter how legal it is, you agree to it, when you wanna work in some fields.
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agreed.
when you become a cop or schoolteacher, you're not allowed to work nights as a pole dancer either.
Code of ethics.
No matter how legal it is, you agree to it, when you wanna work in some fields.
Its not like he is making peanuts. He had to know this was not kosher.
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i agree they were just looking for a reason to dump him. making a few small donations, who gives a shit about that. Billy has a good point there.
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i agree they were just looking for a reason to dump him. making a few small donations, who gives a shit about that. Billy has a good point there.
Exactly, i think he did it on purpose.
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You should hear the libs on Huffington Post. Talk about weeping and gnashing of teeth!!
They're wailing more about Olbermann getting axed than they are about the beating the Dems took Tuesday.
Let the lamentations continue.
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i agree they were just looking for a reason to dump him. making a few small donations, who gives a shit about that. Billy has a good point there.
Hugo - obviously I am way to the right - however - I am the type that will watch cable news if its good. MSNBC is just awful TV.
Everyone knows that typically right wingers will watch more cable news than left wingers and that MSNBC simply is only appealing to a tiny miniroty of people even likely to watch.
they need to change it up if they want better ratings or viewrship.
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You should hear the libs on Huffington Post. Talk about weeping and gnashing of teeth!!
They're wailing more about Olbermann getting axed than they are about the beating the Dems took Tuesday.
Let the lamentations continue.
Great week for many of us. ;D
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You should hear the libs on Huffington Post. Talk about weeping and gnashing of teeth!!
They're wailing more about Olbermann getting axed than they are about the beating the Dems took Tuesday.
Let the lamentations continue.
They should just hire him and make it a full on orgy of stupidity.
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They should just hire him and make it a full on orgy of stupidity.
The prob,e with MSNBC is that is is so blatantly one sided all the time with FAR left borning commentators.
Keith O and Rachel are awful. they are not funny, not entertaing, not informative, and their guests are all of the same exact demographic - far left dweebs from the upper west side of NYC.
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I agree with that and there are few human beings I hate more.But the guy is an opinion maker,not a news guy.He is a blatant lib who shills for libs,why shouldnt he be allowed to give money to libs?What doi you think helps libs running for office more?Olbermann shilling for them on a totally liberal network everynight,or him giving 2,500 dollars?
I think it's a very good decision by MSNBC.
Political reporters should do unbiased reporting.
Hopefully Olbermanns departure will be a trend that other networks will follow.
Shows like Larry King or similar are much better - where people from all political sides are invited to share their views.
Another example is Meet the press, great setup.
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The prob,e with MSNBC is that is is so blatantly one sided all the time with FAR left borning commentators.
Keith O and Rachel are awful. they are not funny, not entertaing, not informative, and their guests are all of the same exact demographic - far left dweebs from the upper west side of NYC.
Probably explains why they annihilated in the ratings on election night. :o
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So they should just throw out ethics because you know, they are stupid and stuff?
Good call.
No, I would think clauses like that belong in contracts for regular reporters and news givers. But opinion shows by their nature have a bias so I'm not sure they should be held to the same standards.
In any event, I think you're right about the fact that it was in his contract, right or wrong, and he'll be held accountable.
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hahaha, stupid turd.....
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50% of Americans think the MSM is too liberal.
and the other 50% think its what
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and the other 50% think its what
Something like 26% think it's too conservative and the rest think it's just right. According to a poll Gallup conducted at the end of September, at least. I don't have the link right now, though.
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Distrust in U.S. Media Edges Up to Record High
Perceptions of liberal bias still far outnumber perceptions of conservative bias
by Lymari Morales
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- For the fourth straight year, the majority of Americans say they have little or no trust in the mass media to report the news fully, accurately, and fairly. The 57% who now say this is a record high by one percentage point.
The 43% of Americans who, in Gallup's annual Governance poll, conducted Sept. 13-16, 2010, express a great deal or fair amount of trust ties the record low, and is far worse than three prior Gallup readings on this measure from the 1970s.
Trust in the media is now slightly higher than the record-low trust in the legislative branch but lower than trust in the executive and judicial branches of government, even though trust in all three branches is down sharply this year. These findings also further confirm a separate Gallup poll that found little confidence in newspapers and television specifically.
Nearly half of Americans (48%) say the media are too liberal, tying the high end of the narrow 44% to 48% range recorded over the past decade. One-third say the media are just about right while 15% say they are too conservative. Overall, perceptions of bias have remained quite steady over this tumultuous period of change for the media, marked by the growth of cable and Internet news sources. Americans' views now are in fact identical to those in 2004, despite the many changes in the industry since then.
Democrats and liberals remain far more likely than other political and ideological groups to trust the media and to perceive no bias.
Lower-income Americans and those with less education are generally more likely to trust the media than are those with higher incomes and more education. A subgroup analysis of these data suggests that three demographic groups key to advertisers -- adults aged 18 to 29, Americans making at least $75,000 per year, and college graduates -- lost more trust in the media in the past year than other groups, but the sample sizes in this survey are too small to say so definitively.
Bottom Line
Gallup's annual update on trust in the mass media finds Americans' views entrenched -- with a record-high 57% expressing little to no trust in the media to report the news fully, accurately, and fairly, and 63% perceiving bias in one direction or the other. At the same time, the steady nature of these views stands in contrast to Americans' views of the three branches of government, which are all down sharply this year. Thus, in an environment in which few institutions elicit high levels of trust, it appears the media are neither gaining nor losing significant ground -- but are just managing to hold steady.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/143267/distrust-media-edges-record-high.aspx
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Dang! This poor guy is having a terrible week. He wasted all that money, the Democrats lost the mid-term elections, and now he gets suspended from his job too? :'(
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Dang! This poor guy is having a terrible week. He wasted all that money, the Democrats lost the mid-term elections, and now he gets suspended from his job too? :'(
Considering he makes that in about an hour of work, I doubt he'll be sweating it. I'm sure some of the other far leftist media groups will be happy to pick him up.
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Considering he makes that in about an hour of work, I doubt he'll be sweating it. I'm sure some of the other far leftist media groups will be happy to pick him up.
Not any more.
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Considering he makes that in about an hour of work, I doubt he'll be sweating it. I'm sure some of the other far leftist media groups will be happy to pick him up.
MSNBC is unwatchable. I'm serious - i can stomach CNN and Fox for a short period of time, but MSNBBC is just a 24 7 train wreck.
Morning Joe has its moments depending on the guests, but by and large its awful.
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Guys like Beck, Olbermann, O'Reilly, Limbaugh et al are TV and Radio pollution.
Love how they usually show a clip of a politician, and has a sidebar next to it with "Talking Points".
The Cliff Notes for the rest of us.
So we don't have to form an opinion of our own.
Thanks guys.
Thanks a fcuking lot.
Political commentators should be kept on a tight leash. Gloria Borgen is a about the only one who does it the way it should be.
Minimalistic. Precise. And somewhat boring.
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I think it's a very good decision by MSNBC.
Political reporters should do unbiased reporting.
Hopefully Olbermanns departure will be a trend that other networks will follow.
Shows like Larry King or similar are much better - where people from all political sides are invited to share their views.
Another example is Meet the press, great setup.
He is not a political reporter.Thats the point.He is a far left liberal shill who openly campaigns for libs on his show every night.He is an opinion guy,everyone knows it.When you watch him you know he is giving his far left opinion.Just as when you listen to Rush you know your getting a far right opinion.I could see if it was Brian Williams,but Keith Olberman?
I also find it offensive that teachers cant pole dance in their spare time.I thought this was America.I thought we had the right to pursue life and liberty and happiness?When did we get to the point that our job can tell us what to do with our money,time and what we do for fun?I put in 8 hours,thats it,after that my life is mine.
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maybe he has contract talks coming up, and this gives him a handy "out" for departing MSNBC without being axed.
This way, he was fired "for his beliefs" and can get a job in a thinktank or a lib radio show host, etc - instead of the fact his schtick just doesn't work with libs in office.
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maybe he has contract talks coming up, and this gives him a handy "out" for departing MSNBC without being axed.
This way, he was fired "for his beliefs" and can get a job in a thinktank or a lib radio show host, etc - instead of the fact his schtick just doesn't work with libs in office.
I read he just signed a big one a year ago or something. there is no way he did not know about this.
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Who freaking cares if political commentators give money to candidates?Geeze,Olbermann shills for libs every single night,is it a surprise he gives money to them as well.I thought in America we had the right to free association.This is stupid.I could see if he was a legit news guy,the guy is a political commentator who gives opinions.Another sad example of a loss of freedom in America.
I have to say I'm with Billy on this one. I can understand a restriction on a network, ...but on an individual?
I wouldn't have a problem if the policy is: "Make your donation but keep your mouth shut", but to disallow financial contributions imo is too restrictive. Yes, he's a newscaster, but he's also a citizen who imo should not be disenfranchised from participating in the political processes that exist. It's a stupid rule. What's next? To say they shouldn't be allowed to vote?
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maybe he has contract talks coming up, and this gives him a handy "out" for departing MSNBC without being axed.
This way, he was fired "for his beliefs" and can get a job in a thinktank or a lib radio show host, etc - instead of the fact his schtick just doesn't work with libs in office.
He is only suspended.Remember he was "suspended" a couple of years ago from doing election night shows[he and mathews] but there they were this year again.He will be back on the air soon.Maybe he is going to rehab and this is the excuse,because to think like him,he must be on drugs.
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I have to say I'm with Billy on this one. I can understand a restriction on a network, ...but on an individual?
I wouldn't have a problem if the policy is: "Make your donation but keep your mouth shut", or to but to disallow financial contributions imo is too restrictive. Yes, he's a newscaster, but he's also a citizen who imo should not be disenfranchised from participating in the political processes that exist. It's a stupid rule. What's next? To say they shouldn't be allowed to vote?
If its in his contract - than its on him.
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If its in his contract - than its on him.
agreed. the minute you let broadcasters donate... you have them start giving softball Qs, etc. It's pretty shady. And it's only 2300... you're telling me he couldn't have let a friend do it? His ego made him donate.
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If its in his contract - than its on him.
I don't dispute that. If he agreed to it, he can be held accountable. I'm just saying it's a stupid clause.
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If its in his contract - than its on him.
I dont understand how thats even allowed by law to be in your contract.What,if you have a job,the company owns you?How is that even legal?
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I dont understand how thats even allowed by law to be in your contract.What,if you have a job,the company owns you?How is that even legal?
If he agrees to accept 30 Million over 5 years, which is what I believe it was, they can definately get him to agree to that.
Shit - I'll sign up for that any day!
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I dont understand how thats even allowed by law to be in your contract.What,if you have a job,the company owns you?How is that even legal?
I'm puzzled as well. I've often been of the opinion that any clauses that violate the law, or contradict the law, are null & void, and therefore unenforceable. Maybe it's a ratings ploy?
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agreed. the minute you let broadcasters donate... you have them start giving softball Qs, etc. It's pretty shady. And it's only 2300... you're telling me he couldn't have let a friend do it? His ego made him donate.
Ha,ha,ha are you kidding me?If Olberman threw any softer the ball would simply fall out of his hand.Still waiting for that hard hitting Hannity interview with a conservative as well.
The amount of money makes no difference,we are in America we should have the right to do what we want.Now,if he donated on company time,using a company computer,I might agree,but if he was home doing it on his time,thats just not right.
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I'm puzzled as well. I've often been of the opinion that any clauses that violate the law, or contradict the law, are null & void, and therefore unenforceable. Maybe it's a ratings ploy?
Its not illegal to agree not to contribute to politicians if you are a newsperson.
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Its not illegal to agree not to contribute to politicians if you are a newsperson.
My goodness,this man is NOT a newsperson!He is an opinion person.There is nothing newsworthy on his show.He offers opinions on the news ,just like Hannity.Again,perhaps if it was Brian Williams who needs to give the impression that he is unbiased[I still dont like it]but this guy is the opposite of a newsperson.
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My goodness,this man is NOT a newsperson!He is an opinion person.There is nothing newsworthy on his show.He offers opinions on the news ,just like Hannity.Again,perhaps if it was Brian Williams who needs to give the impression that he is unbiased[I still dont like it]but this guy is the opposite of a newsperson.
The point is, and I see what you are trying to say, is that even if he was the camera man, if it was in his contract that he cannot donate to politicians and he did, the same result would have happened.
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TV Newser: “Insiders” say Olbermann won’t be back
Hot Air ^ | NOVEMBER 4, 2010 | ALLAHPUNDIT
Nothing concrete, but scratching an ego this fragile might well cause it to crack and fall apart.
Olbermann, who signed a four-year, $30 million contract extension in Nov. 2008, has left MSNBC once before.
In the late 1990′s, Olbermann had a program on MSNBC called “The Big Show.” In 1998, he left the network after protesting the incessant coverage of the Monica Lewinsky scandal. He ended up joining , of all places, Fox Sports. Olbermann was wooed back to MSNBC during the run-up to the Iraq War when MSNBC had a show called “Countdown: Iraq” hosted by Lester Holt. That show morphed into “Countdown with Keith Olbermann.”
Insiders we’ve talked to say Olbermann won’t be back. The question is whether he’ll leave or MSNBC keeps him off the air.
(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...
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I have to say I'm with Billy on this one. I can understand a restriction on a network, ...but on an individual?
I wouldn't have a problem if the policy is: "Make your donation but keep your mouth shut", but to disallow financial contributions imo is too restrictive. Yes, he's a newscaster, but he's also a citizen who imo should not be disenfranchised from participating in the political processes that exist. It's a stupid rule. What's next? To say they shouldn't be allowed to vote?
it wasn't that he gave money but that he didn't get prior approval to do so
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it wasn't that he gave money but that he didn't get prior approval to do so
Sucks for him.
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Sucks for him.
:D
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Please, don’t let him return to Sunday Night Football.
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Sucks for him.
he just gave the money a few days ago and it was small amounts.
seems like he either just forgot or was unaware of the rule.
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Please, don’t let him return to Sunday Night Football.
THIS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can simply not watch his ignorant arrogant ass when he is msnbc but when he hosts sunday night football I am forced to subject myself to this deusche bag of a person...
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how hard do you think O'rielly is celebrating tonight?
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how hard do you think O'rielly is celebrating tonight?
iono I think FOX used him like stewart uses FOX whether or not you agree with him olbeirman said and had some guests that said some ignorant retarted shit on his show...
Gave FOX something to rail against...now all they have is matthews...not that he in of himself isnt enough to fill a months worth of commercial free programming :D
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iono I think FOX used him like stewart uses FOX whether or not you agree with him olbeirman said and had some guests that said some ignorant retarted shit on his show...
Gave FOX something to rail against...now all they have is matthews...not that he in of himself isnt enough to fill a months worth of commercial free programming :D
Matthews is dingy but I don't dislike him. I though Olbermann was ok during the Bush years but then when I saw he was willing to do the same thing for Obama that he was bitching about others doing, he just became a sack of shit at that point. Odonnel was a sack of shit from day one. I'll never listen to him after that crap he pulled with Peter Schiff. AND THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD ON MSNBC IMO IS RACHAEL MADCOW. I truly couldn't stand her when she was on the radio then she got her own show ::) With all that said, I'm equally turned off by the spewing puke out of Fox News.
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Matthews is dingy but I don't dislike him. I though Olbermann was ok during the Bush years but then when I saw he was willing to do the same thing for Obama that he was bitching about others doing, he just became a sack of shit at that point. Odonnel was a sack of shit from day one. I'll never listen to him after that crap he pulled with Peter Schiff. AND THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD ON MSNBC IMO IS RACHAEL MADCOW. I truly couldn't stand her when she was on the radio then she got her own show ::) With all that said, I'm equally turned off by the spewing puke out of Fox News.
maybe im mistaken but who was the "tingle up my leg" comment and the latest bachman interview this past week? matthews or odonnel?
if its matthews and you say you dont dislike that piece of shit of a human being I dont know what to say to you hugo...
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maybe im mistaken but who was the "tingle up my leg" comment and the latest bachman interview this past week? matthews or odonnel?
if its matthews and you say you dont dislike that piece of shit of a human being I dont know what to say to you hugo...
that's why I said he's dingy. I don't watch him and I'm not about to get all wound up over his silly gay tingles lol. what, it's not enough for you that I can't stand the rest of them over there at msnbc? all or nothing for you?
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Now this just made my day. :) I hope they fire him. He's a grade A hypocrite.
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MSNBC is dead wrong for this
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MSNBC is dead wrong for this
if its in his contract - screw him. Tough shit on him - he signed a 5 year 30 million dollar contract and if he breached it - oh well kieth.
BTW - if Beck donated money to candidates and fox let him go would you feel the same way?
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MSNBC is dead wrong for this
How so? He violated the terms of his contract. He also put his common sense and integrity in his back pocket.
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he violated his contract.
if he gives $ to candidates, snorts coke off a strippers ass on video, or is caught in a hotel room with a dead girl or a live boy...
he broke the terms of his contract. it's that simple.
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if its in his contract - screw him. Tough shit on him - he signed a 5 year 30 million dollar contract and if he breached it - oh well kieth.
BTW - if Beck donated money to candidates and fox let him go would you feel the same way?
Yes...simply because im about real freedoms... If Glen Beck donated money to a Republican than thats his right as an American Citizen. Dude...its his business. Who gives a fuck
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Yes...simply because im about real freedoms... If Glen Beck donated money to a Republican than thats his right as an American Citizen. Dude...its his business. Who gives a fuck
What freedoms did he lose? He can donate to whomever he wants. He just has to go work for someone else.
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Yes...simply because im about real freedoms... If Glen Beck donated money to a Republican than thats his right as an American Citizen. Dude...its his business. Who gives a fuck
He negotiated away those "freedoms" by agreeing to accept 30 Million over 5 years. I guess basic contract law aint your thing either. bbbboooommmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!
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He negotiated away those "freedoms" by agreeing to accept 30 Million over 5 years. I guess basic contract law aint your thing either. bbbboooommmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!
i dont get it. Were you under the impression i was an esq?
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I haven't read anything that say he violated his contract but rather that he just violated some corporate rule
I'm guessing he'll be back on the air in a week or so, if not less.
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Isn't "suspended indefinitely" just a cushy euphemism for being FIRED, just like Shirley Sherrod's "forced resignation"?
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Biden sought Olbermann's advice on anger
CNN ^ | 11-6-10
MSNBC's Keith Olbermann, suspended indefinitely Friday for donating to Democratic candidates for office, said in an interview two days before his suspension that Vice President Joe Biden once sought his advice.
“I once had a conversation with the man who is now the vice president when he was still in the Senate, who asked me for advice about how to turn anger into righteous inspiration,” Olbermann said in an interview with the New York Times Magazine.
Olbermann added, “He [Biden] said, ‘I just come across like I’m angry and out of control, and you seem to focus it and make it look useful and expressive.’’’
Also noteworthy, Olbermann expressed surprise with Jon Stewart’s criticism of him during the Rally for Sanity.
(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cn n.com ...
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Isn't "suspended indefinitely" just a cushy euphemism for being FIRED, just like Shirley Sherrod's "forced resignation"?
That's usually right. They were probably looking for an excuse to get rid of him. Wouldn't surprise me if there is some of kind of buyout of his contract.
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That's usually right. They were probably looking for an excuse to get rid of him. Wouldn't surprise me if there is some of kind of buyout of his contract.
They're still in sackcloth and ashes on Huffington Post. Cries of blackout (not watching MSNBC), petitions.....the foolishness is without bounds.
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that's why I said he's dingy. I don't watch him and I'm not about to get all wound up over his silly gay tingles lol. what, it's not enough for you that I can't stand the rest of them over there at msnbc? all or nothing for you?
LOL dude I havent watched alot of it but matthews is by far the worst imho he does nothing but gotcha journalism doesnt ever let the other person get a word in at all I mean just plain shit dude.
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They're still in sackcloth and ashes on Huffington Post. Cries of blackout (not watching MSNBC), petitions.....the foolishness is without bounds.
I'm not sure a blackout is much of a threat.
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Olbermann added, “He [Biden] said, ‘I just come across like I’m angry and out of control, and you seem to focus it and make it look useful and expressive.’’’
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LOL dude I havent watched alot of it but matthews is by far the worst imho he does nothing but gotcha journalism doesnt ever let the other person get a word in at all I mean just plain shit dude.
that's what you see, I'm not going to hold it against you. I see Maddow as the worst. To me she's just like a female verson of Hannity on the left. She comes across with the same contempt and mockery for the right as Hannity does for the left... If I had to pick only two people to get rid of in the media, it would be Hannity and Madcow. Then I would beg for a shot to get rid of two more... If you think I'm wrong in thinking this, I don't know what to say. It's just my opinion.
With Mathews, at least that's the name of the game. He started his stupid "hardball" People who go on it at least know they're going to go up against him forcing answers. I don't care for it, but at least you know what you get before you go on. Like I said, he's dingy, but I don't see him as the worst, not even close. Olbermann, Beck, O'donnel, O'reilly would all be up before Mathews imo...
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current spin is that he was unware of the "rule" and refused to apologize on air
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like Juan Williams; FOX should hire him.
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like Juan Williams; FOX should hire him.
yes, with amnesty-supporting hosts like Palin and Newt, he'd fit right in.
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like Juan Williams; FOX should hire him.
Fox doesn't really hire duds like Olbermann. That's partly why they kick everyone else's butt.
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Fox doesn't really hire duds like Olbermann. That's partly why they kick everyone else's butt.
lots o idiots
Obama/Biden
Osama Bin Laden
MMMM....Fox News
Jet Packs in LA...lmao
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lots o idiots
Obama/Biden
Osama Bin Laden
MMMM....Fox News
Jet Packs in LA...lmao
Not lots. Maybe a couple. Most of their people do a good job. Greta, Megyn Kelly, that Brooks guy, Wallace, etc.
If you look at the people who left other networks and joined Fox they were typically good at their last job (like the former CNN folks).
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Not lots. Maybe a couple. Most of their people do a good job. Greta, Megyn Kelly, that Brooks guy, Wallace, etc.
If you look at the people who left other networks and joined Fox they were typically good at their last job (like the former CNN folks).
Everyone loves playing 'gotcha' with the media.
When they use old footage to enlarge crowds, "accidentally" change party affiliation, make terrorist insinuations...
Well, it just seems like FOX is guilty of a lot more than other networks. I know, we'll have getbiggers without facts saying "nuh uh!"... but we can all point at examples from the last 2 years of FOX making "mistakes" which took a ton of effort. Unearthing old footage to enlarge mccain crowds... I mean, what, you just happened to have the packed 2000 footage sitting around?
It seems that FOX does this cheating a lot more than everyone else. yes, they're #1... and the Patriots were #1 for a long time while cheating their asses off too... ;)
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Everyone loves playing 'gotcha' with the media.
When they use old footage to enlarge crowds, "accidentally" change party affiliation, make terrorist insinuations...
Well, it just seems like FOX is guilty of a lot more than other networks. I know, we'll have getbiggers without facts saying "nuh uh!"... but we can all point at examples from the last 2 years of FOX making "mistakes" which took a ton of effort. Unearthing old footage to enlarge mccain crowds... I mean, what, you just happened to have the packed 2000 footage sitting around?
It seems that FOX does this cheating a lot more than everyone else. yes, they're #1... and the Patriots were #1 for a long time while cheating their asses off too... ;)
? The issue was whether Fox would hire Olbermann. Not sure what you're talking about. If it's the accuracy of their coverage, that's a different subject.
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? The issue was whether Fox would hire Olbermann. Not sure what you're talking about. If it's the accuracy of their coverage, that's a different subject.
great point. While obnoxious and full of himself, Olbermann was very good at backing up everything ith facts - until 2009 when he started fudging things to defend obama.
Therefore, his willingness to make broad assumptions and stretch truth means he'd fit in fine there. it's hard to argue - you're 100% right there, my brother.
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great point. While obnoxious and full of himself, Olbermann was very good at backing up everything ith facts - until 2009 when he started fudging things to defend obama.
Therefore, his willingness to make broad assumptions and stretch truth means he'd fit in fine there. it's hard to argue - you're 100% right there, my brother.
Yeah. Whatever. He sucks. That's why his ratings stink. That's why nobody watches him (except for maybe liberal hacks). That's why Fox will never hire him.
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Yeah. Whatever. He sucks. That's why his ratings stink. That's why nobody watches him (except for maybe liberal hacks). That's why Fox will never hire him.
Agreed 100%. He lacks the journalistic integrity of a Geraldo Rivera. When the wusses at MSNBC were too scared to reveal US Troop movements on the air, the FOX journalist ignored the law, common sense, and a sense of national pride and mapped out our forces' movements on live television.
yeah, FOX can really pick em ;)
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Agreed 100%. He lacks the journalistic integrity of a Geraldo Rivera. When the wusses at MSNBC were too scared to reveal US Troop movements on the air, the FOX journalist ignored the law, common sense, and a sense of national pride and mapped out our forces' movements on live television.
yeah, FOX can really pick em ;)
Actually, he lacks the intelligence, likeability, and common sense to win his time slot, and keep his job on a lousy network.
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i dont get it. Were you under the impression i was an esq?
I was under the impression you were studying to be a doctor. Is that correct?
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Actually, he lacks the intelligence, likeability, and common sense to win his time slot, and keep his job on a lousy network.
terroist fist bump
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I was under the impression you were studying to be a doctor. Is that correct?
yes...dont know y 3333 referred to contracts as a strong point..lol
but yes...studying for boards...as of now.. took a sim test..scored 222...its like a B in conventional grades
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yes...dont know y 3333 referred to contracts as a strong point..lol
but yes...studying for boards...as of now.. took a sim test..scored 222...its like a B in conventional grades
hmmm...congrats. Sounds like before long we'll have to call you Dr. big_mal. Might sound kinda funny over the loudspeaker though...
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hmmm...congrats. Sounds like before long we'll have to call you Dr. big_mal. Might sound kinda funny over the loudspeaker though...
lol...wasnt a real test....a sim...or pre test...i dont take till next year...
im on realx mode till 2011...
and steelers better win tomorrow
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lol...wasnt a real test....a sim...or pre test...i dont take till next year...
im on realx mode till 2011...
and steelers better win tomorrow
As long as its not econ, contracts, civics, etc - you will be fine.
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As long as its not econ, contracts, civics, etc - you will be fine.
y..cause u said so?...boy stop
you just stay away from journalism wit yo lyin ass
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hmmm...congrats. Sounds like before long we'll have to call you Dr. big_mal. Might sound kinda funny over the loudspeaker though...
mmmm?...dont believe i can make a 222 on Step?
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I haven't read anything that say he violated his contract but rather that he just violated some corporate rule
I'm guessing he'll be back on the air in a week or so, if not less.
just read he's back on the air tomorrow
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just read he's back on the air tomorrow
I heard 300,000 people signed a peitition and they got a lot of flack for it.
I hope they keep him on.
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I heard 300,000 people signed a peitition and they got a lot of flack for it.
I hope they keep him on.
they could have reprimanded him without ever making it public
it's not like anyone knew or cared about his tiny donations which were only made a few days before the election
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they could have reprimanded him without ever making it public
it's not like anyone knew or cared about his tiny donations which were only made a few days before the election
I guess they tried getting in front of the story knowing his on air stuff about not voting so as to keep an appearance of impartiality would bite them big time later on.
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I guess they tried getting in front of the story knowing his on air stuff about not voting so as to keep an appearance of impartiality would bite them big time later on.
he said on air that he doesn't vote in order to keep an "appearance" of impartiality?
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he said on air that he doesn't vote in order to keep an "appearance" of impartiality?
I believe that is what I read. I have to look it up. Apparently he said something like that recently. I'll find it.
Either way, he or MSNBC should just be up front about it.
If he wants to donate, and its within his contract and policies of MSNBC, fine, just be open about who and how much and why.
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I believe that is what I read. I have to look it up. Apparently he said something like that recently. I'll find it.
Either way, he or MSNBC should just be up front about it.
If he wants to donate, and its within his contract and policies of MSNBC, fine, just be open about who and how much and why.
I was not aware he made any statement like that but I hardly watch his show anymore
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I was not aware he made any statement like that but I hardly watch his show anymore
I don't watch any TV by and large. Maybe a bit for 15 min when I wake up.
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Ha! I bet they couldn't find anyone to replace him.
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I heard 300,000 people signed a peitition and they got a lot of flack for it.
I hope they keep him on.
yes, we did send a note to MSNBC.... :)
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yes, we did send a note to MSNBC.... :)
I hope so - he, madcow, and all the other loons have done more to help the conservative cause than you can imagine.
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mmmm?...dont believe i can make a 222 on Step?
No, hmmmm as in "interesting". Don't know what "a 222 on Step" even means, but I'm not calling you a liar.
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I heard 300,000 people signed a peitition and they got a lot of flack for it.
I hope they keep him on.
Thats his entire vewing audiance.
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Thats his entire vewing audiance.
300,001 dont forget to count yourself; you always seem to be up on his current sayings.
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No, hmmmm as in "interesting". Don't know what "a 222 on Step" even means, but I'm not calling you a liar.
Step 1 2 and 3 are the board certification. Like once i pass im good. Ill be MD. Also...call tomlin and tell him we need cornerbacks like now.