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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: haider on November 30, 2010, 10:07:13 PM
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here he is on the left here
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225411.0;attach=391521;image)
down on the positive board he confidently claims that he's 100% tested natural. It just boggles the mind / angers me to think that people could be such bold liars?
I mean its so fuckin ridiculous to me that I almost think that someway somehow he MIGHT be natural after all?
guy obviously has an awesome physique, and if he's tellin the truth he shouldnt be bothered by this thread at all- quite the contrary rather.
A: can this be acheived with pro hormones?
B: how credible/accurate are drug tests for natural bbers?
C: If he definietely aint natural, then where does the boldness come from? Is it cuz its a 'level playing field' or common in the orgs he competes in to take drugs?
D: wanna fight?
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Doesn't scream DRUGS to me.
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Doesn't scream DRUGS to me.
Ronnie, are you being facetious again?
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You changed the pic. Guy on the left now is obviously not natural.
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You changed the pic.
yea somehow I copied the wrong url, it was weird.
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You changed the pic. Guy on the left now is obviously not natural.
stage left, or my left?
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the only person he's lying to is himself (i really think he has a problem and he truly believes he's natural), and people who believe he is natural have a very low IQ.
If you believe that kiyoshi is natural, you should also believe that all the IFBB world's competitors are natural, cuz they passed the drug test.
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I have no problems with someone lying about being natural but to say that you would never use aas because it would hurt your daughter, when you are clearly juiced as fuck is really asshole move. all the way stupid asshole this kiyoshi hoody
''lol, let alone it would hurt and as well as my daughter!!!! Would never do that to her!!!!''
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stage left, or my left?
I think he's referring to the guy on your left. That's who I was talking about as well.
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Doesn't scream DRUGS to me.
no, he is a newbie and builting a base.
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Is it so hard, jsut because he is in great shape that he is natural right now. Anyway, Kiyoshi stays on the Bodybuilding Positive Board and is doing a great job for the people who like to learn and respect bodybuilding.
Anyone who gets in great shape is automatically labled a 'steroid' user, whether it is true or not.
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Is it so hard, jsut because he is in great shape that he is natural right now. Anyway, Kiyoshi stays on the Bodybuilding Positive Board and is doing a great job for the people who like to learn and respect bodybuilding.
Anyone who gets in great shape is automatically labled a 'steroid' user, whether it is true or not.
Ron, go read the bible,,
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Is it so hard, jsut because he is in great shape that he is natural right now. Anyway, Kiyoshi stays on the Bodybuilding Positive Board and is doing a great job for the people who like to learn and respect bodybuilding.
Anyone who gets in great shape is automatically labled a 'steroid' user, whether it is true or not.
Very true. But Kiyoshi is definitely over a gram of AAS and whatever else during his contest prep. He must also be using slin the way he fills out so nicely. He knows how to use his drugs and I'm sure he strives to use them sparingly and as effectively as possible.
He probably lowers his dose right down and maybe even comes off a couple times a year. Great looking competitor. Should have never claimed natural status though. Could have had all the same sponsors and would only have to lie about his dosages rather than deny using drugs all together. Stupid on his part.
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Is it so hard, jsut because he is in great shape that he is natural right now. Anyway, Kiyoshi stays on the Bodybuilding Positive Board and is doing a great job for the people who like to learn and respect bodybuilding.
Anyone who gets in great shape is automatically labled a 'steroid' user, whether it is true or not.
we know you're natural
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Very true. But Kiyoshi is definitely over a gram of AAS and whatever else during his contest prep. He must also be using slin the way he fills out so nicely. He knows how to use his drugs and I'm sure he strives to use them sparingly and as effectively as possible.
He probably lowers his dose right down and maybe even comes off a couple times a year. Great looking competitor. Should have never claimed natural status though. Could have had all the same sponsors and would only have to lie about his dosages rather than deny using drugs all together. Stupid on his part.
thanks for sharing your opinion on this but i would have to disagree with the last bit there. In bodybuilding you're either natural or not... there's no fed that allows only 'moderate amounts of steroids,' atleast not on the surface. I've never heard anyone being congratulated for having a great 'moderate steroid use' physique :P
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Very true. But Kiyoshi is definitely over a gram of AAS and whatever else during his contest prep. He must also be using slin the way he fills out so nicely. He knows how to use his drugs and I'm sure he strives to use them sparingly and as effectively as possible.
He probably lowers his dose right down and maybe even comes off a couple times a year. Great looking competitor. Should have never claimed natural status though. Could have had all the same sponsors and would only have to lie about his dosages rather than deny using drugs all together. Stupid on his part.
fela,,..all 3 fellas on photo uses minimum 2g+of aas.. kiyoshi moddu fella runs aas+GH! see fulness of shoulders and traps compard to other 2 fella, 8ius+ of GH is why. GH is reason he is fuller from everywhere legs,arms,shoulders!! more muscle fibers than other fella=GH+aas to blow them fibers up!!!
gh15 approved
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fela,,..all 3 fellas on photo uses minimum 2g+of aas.. kiyoshi moddu fella runs aas+GH! see fulness of shoulders and traps compard to other 2 fella, 8ius+ of GH is why. GH is reason he is fuller from everywhere legs,arms,shoulders!! more muscle fibers than other fella=GH+aas to blow them fibers up!!!
gh15 approved
uve got this gh15 shit down so good i couldnt understand a fuckin word... keep it up
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fela,,..all 3 fellas on photo uses minimum 2g+of aas.. kiyoshi moddu fella runs aas+GH! see fulness of shoulders and traps compard to other 2 fella, 8ius+ of GH is why. GH is reason he is fuller from everywhere legs,arms,shoulders!! more muscle fibers than other fella=GH+aas to blow them fibers up!!!
gh15 approved
LOL... see anyone can "gh15" around .. not that hard ;D
Kyoshi = huge asian bastard. If not natural, definitely not chemically saturated... separation only guys from the early 80's had, where drug to training + diet was at its best.
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http://kiyoshimoody.com/
(the lighting scared my cat, me too, had the big speakers on)
http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Moody,+Kiyoshi
1999
Natural Olympia - INBA, Medium-Tall, 1st
2005
US Natural Championships - ABA, Medium, 1st
US Natural Championships - ABA, Overall Winner
2007
Junior California - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
Junior California - NPC, Overall Winner
Max Muscle Naturals (So Cal) - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
Max Muscle Naturals (So Cal) - NPC, Overall Winner
San Diego Championships - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
San Diego Championships - NPC, Overall Winner
Team Universe Championships - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
World Amateur Championships - IFBB, Light-HeavyWeight, Did not place
2008
Team Universe Championships - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
2009
Natural Olympia - INBA, Tall, 1st
Natural Olympia - INBA, Overall Winner
Natural Olympia - INBA, Professional, 1st
Team Universe Championships - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 2nd
USA Championships - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 13th
Natural Universe - INBA, Professional, 1st
2010
Musclemania Universe, HeavyWeight, 1st
Natural Olympia - INBA, Professional, 1st
Natural Universe - INBA, Professional, 1st
Natural World Championships - INBA, Professional, 1st
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http://kiyoshimoody.com/
(the lighting scared my cat, me too, had the big speakers on)
http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Moody,+Kiyoshi
1999
Natural Olympia - INBA, Medium-Tall, 1st
2005
US Natural Championships - ABA, Medium, 1st
US Natural Championships - ABA, Overall Winner
2007
Junior California - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
Junior California - NPC, Overall Winner
Max Muscle Naturals (So Cal) - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
Max Muscle Naturals (So Cal) - NPC, Overall Winner
San Diego Championships - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
San Diego Championships - NPC, Overall Winner
Team Universe Championships - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
World Amateur Championships - IFBB, Light-HeavyWeight, Did not place
2008
Team Universe Championships - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
2009
Natural Olympia - INBA, Tall, 1st
Natural Olympia - INBA, Overall Winner
Natural Olympia - INBA, Professional, 1st
Team Universe Championships - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 2nd
USA Championships - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 13th
Natural Universe - INBA, Professional, 1st
2010
Musclemania Universe, HeavyWeight, 1st
Natural Olympia - INBA, Professional, 1st
Natural Universe - INBA, Professional, 1st
Natural World Championships - INBA, Professional, 1st
Record speaks for itself.
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LOL... see anyone can "gh15" around .. not that hard ;D
Kyoshi = huge asian bastard. If not natural, definitely not chemically saturated... separation only guys from the early 80's had, where drug to training + diet was at its best.
its not only ''gh15'' around, its actually true. although maybe less than 8, lets say minimum 6iu
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225411.0;attach=391521;image)
i know some of you WANT SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BADLY to believe he is natural, cause your afraid to take steroids, and you want to believe you can naturally fashion a physique comparable to that with a lot of time and hard work
but separate yourself from your emotional need to believe and lets think about this RATIONALLY
in this photo here..............moody looks bigger, crisper, leaner, better then any of those guys who competed back in the "golden age"...............looks better then zane, better then ferrigno, better then arnold, looks better then metzner
so are you actually gonna believe that this guys genetics are SO fucking superb.............that naturally.............he could look better in every way then zane, arnold, louie, franco did on steroids
i think we can agree that arnold and zane had some pretty good bodybuilding genetics.........do you really believe that arnold and zanes genetics were so inferior to moodys that even taking gear the could never look as good as him on stage ::) ::) ::) ::)
this guy is a lying fuckin scumbag............anyon e who knows ANYTHING about the look growth hormone gives a physique can EASILY tell this guy is on growth.........ans he is on PLENTY of steroids too, he just knows how to manipulate them
look at the guys he is standing next to ( who themselves arent natural) and look at how he is dominating them............with this physique in this picture, he could do damage in the light heavies at nationals
if you want to believe that LIAR MOODY is just SO genetically blessed...........that he is some kind of superhuman.........that he could look better then most national level untested competitors............. .i REALLY feel sorry for you
people like this guy really are the bottom of the barrel........let him stay on the "positive" board when a few delusionites suck on his androgen-shrunken nutsack...........cause he knows if he stepped on the main board he would get owned and exposed like the lying c0cksucker he is............cause although there are a lot of idiots who post on the G&O who know NOTHING about bodybuilding (noworries, disco stu, ect)............there are also plenty of guys that have been around and who know exactly what this assholes game is
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Is it so hard, jsut because he is in great shape that he is natural right now. Anyway, Kiyoshi stays on the Bodybuilding Positive Board and is doing a great job for the people who like to learn and respect bodybuilding.
Anyone who gets in great shape is automatically labled a 'steroid' user, whether it is true or not.
Wow . . .
THE BEEF
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Wow . . .
THE BEEF
Hurricane Beef --> chunks of meat flying everywhere.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225411.0;attach=391521;image)
i know some of you WANT SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BADLY to believe he is natural, cause your afraid to take steroids, and you want to believe you can naturally fashion a physique comparable to that with a lot of time and hard work
but separate yourself from your emotional need to believe and lets think about this RATIONALLY
in this photo here..............moody looks bigger, crisper, leaner, better then any of those guys who competed back in the "golden age"...............looks better then zane, better then ferrigno, better then arnold, looks better then metzner
so are you actually gonna believe that this guys genetics are SO fucking superb.............that naturally.............he could look better in every way then zane, arnold, louie, franco did on steroids
i think we can agree that arnold and zane had some pretty good bodybuilding genetics.........do you really believe that arnold and zanes genetics were so inferior to moodys that even taking gear the could never look as good as him on stage ::) ::) ::) ::)
this guy is a lying fuckin scumbag............anyon e who knows ANYTHING about the look growth hormone gives a physique can EASILY tell this guy is on growth.........ans he is on PLENTY of steroids too, he just knows how to manipulate them
look at the guys he is standing next to ( who themselves arent natural) and look at how he is dominating them............with this physique in this picture, he could do damage in the light heavies at nationals
if you want to believe that LIAR MOODY is just SO genetically blessed...........that he is some kind of superhuman.........that he could look better then most national level untested competitors............. .i REALLY feel sorry for you
people like this guy really are the bottom of the barrel........let him stay on the "positive" board when a few delusionites suck on his androgen-shrunken nutsack...........cause he knows if he stepped on the main board he would get owned and exposed like the lying c0cksucker he is............cause although there are a lot of idiots who post on the G&O who know NOTHING about bodybuilding (noworries, disco stu, ect)............there are also plenty of guys that have been around and who know exactly what this assholes game is
this is a very good posting yet again,,im waiting on few more like this from others and then i quit for good,,this show me that i have done my part,,VERY GOOD POSTING!
gh15 approved
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its not only ''gh15'' around, its actually true. although maybe less than 8, lets say minimum 6iu
alex is just as usual out of his mind,,leader of generation nothingness,,this fella mioshi is on everything ifbb professional is on,,EVERY SINGLE PRODUCT,,but the difference is he try to push it as natural,,
if you think for a second this fella doesnt have gh in his blood none stop for a long time,,if you think this fella doesnt beg from his dealer for stuff every 4 weeks and ask to rush it in ,,if you think this fella doesnt spend ALL HIS MONEY ON HORMONES ,,then you deserve to be where youre at in bodybuilding,,
this is A LIAR,,A STINKY LIAR,,HE IS THE TYPE OF FELLA THAT WILL LIE IN COURT,,AND WILL LIE TO WIFE,, AND WILL LIE TO FRIEND,,AND WILL LIE AND LIE AND LIE INORDER TO GET SOMEWHERE,,THE SAD PART IS THAT HIS FRIEND WILL BUY THE LIE AND WILL BELIEVE,,
therer were times i thought to bust those naturals and shed them to light with controled delivery,,but the money was so so good ,,its just not worth it ,,they pay alot of money
gh15 approved
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alex is just as usual out of his mind,,leader of generation nothingness,,this fella mioshi is on everything ifbb professional is on,,EVERY SINGLE PRODUCT,,but the difference is he try to push it as natural,,
if you think for a second this fella doesnt have gh in his blood none stop for a long time,,if you think this fella doesnt beg from his dealer for stuff every 4 weeks and ask to rush it in ,,if you think this fella doesnt spend ALL HIS MONEY ON HORMONES ,,then you deserve to be where youre at in bodybuilding,,
this is A LIAR,,A STINKY LIAR,,HE IS THE TYPE OF FELLA THAT WILL LIE IN COURT,,AND WILL LIE TO WIFE,, AND WILL LIE TO FRIEND,,AND WILL LIE AND LIE AND LIE INORDER TO GET SOMEWHERE,,THE SAD PART IS THAT HIS FRIEND WILL BUY THE LIE AND WILL BELIEVE,,
therer were times i thought to bust those naturals and shed them to light with controled delivery,,but the money was so so good ,,its just not worth it ,,they pay alot of money
gh15 approved
Actually I'm not big chief... we both know..
But you were..
http://www.steroid.com/anthony-roberts.php ;D
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Actually I'm not big chief... we both know..
But you were..
http://www.steroid.com/anthony-roberts.php ;D
actually im nto anthony roberts you retard,,if i saw that moron id shoot him myself woudnt even have to let my guys do the job,,this is an insult to me to be csalled roberts,,as usual you are out of your mind,,less time on internet more in real life will do you good,,
anthony robert ::)
gh15 approved
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Guy is totally full of shit.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225411.0;attach=391521;image)
i know some of you WANT SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BADLY to believe he is natural, cause your afraid to take steroids, and you want to believe you can naturally fashion a physique comparable to that with a lot of time and hard work
....blah b;lah blah im a genius in my own mind and all you retards dont know what i do...
there is absolutely no proof of this guy being a user, and his record even from the start is in drug tested and polygraph tested contests...
he claims he is natural, his physique is good, he's been training for some time...
the real losers are those who dont think anything can be achieved without steroids.
you need to get out a little and meet some gifted muscle athletes...
even the ancient iron agers who didnt have gear to choose from sported decent physiques and that was 60 years ago when calorie contents werent printed on packaging and smoking was the norm.
ill take him at his word and until the proof balances his claims (and all your pathetic "proof" is is a bunch of insults and speculation without a hint of motive or anything suspicious).
in 60 years some things are learned, and things have come a long way. You know we flew to the moon after not even knowing how to fly in 60 years.
unsung ill say it again- you are truly a dickhead.
hope this helps.
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there is absolutely no proof of this guy being a user, and his record even from the start is in drug tested and polygraph tested contests...
he claims he is natural, his physique is good, he's been training for some time...
the real losers are those who dont think anything can be achieved without steroids.
you need to get out a little and meet some gifted muscle athletes...
even the ancient iron agers who didnt have gear to choose from sported decent physiques and that was 60 years ago when calorie contents werent printed on packaging and smoking was the norm.
ill take him at his word and until the proof balances his claims (and all your pathetic "proof" is is a bunch of insults and speculation without a hint of motive or anything suspicious).
in 60 years some things are learned, and things have come a long way. You know we flew to the moon after not even knowing how to fly in 60 years.
unsung ill say it again- you are truly a dickhead.
hope this helps.
its the GH ,,nto the steroids who create this kind of physiqe,,the reaon he is there and you are not is becaue this little bastard has the money to spend on gh,,he probably dont buy his little girl toys and put it on the gh,,very simply concept,,gh is the bst steroid you can have espeiclaly when taken with steroids or before,,this fella is on GH and not 2 iu lol he is on it like any other bodybuilder ,,
the human body no matter how much train and eat is not meant to hold so much lean muscle onh the frame of fella this height,,nto in this consition not with those insertions,,the fact he lie to you kids is just sad,,it is guys like you gh15 was created for ,, you will see in few years from now yhou will say to yourself ,,damn that gh15 was right,,it just takes few more expriences and being less goolible
the unsung fella is saying the truth ,,he is not bitter his observations are spot on ,,he is right and just dont like liars especially when they lie to other bodybuilders in the same field as them ,,on the same board as them ,,all bodybuilders,,whats there to lie?
no test is good ,,you can pass them with no problem ,,all of them including blood
gh15 approved
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there is absolutely no proof of this guy being a user, and his record even from the start is in drug tested and polygraph tested contests...
he claims he is natural, his physique is good, he's been training for some time...
the real losers are those who dont think anything can be achieved without steroids.
you need to get out a little and meet some gifted muscle athletes...
even the ancient iron agers who didnt have gear to choose from sported decent physiques and that was 60 years ago when calorie contents werent printed on packaging and smoking was the norm.
ill take him at his word and until the proof balances his claims (and all your pathetic "proof" is is a bunch of insults and speculation without a hint of motive or anything suspicious).
in 60 years some things are learned, and things have come a long way. You know we flew to the moon after not even knowing how to fly in 60 years.
unsung ill say it again- you are truly a dickhead.
hope this helps.
Pull your head out of your ass please ::) or go back to the HIV positive board and suck kiyoshi the liar fags pole ::)
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As natural as a reserved muslim.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225411.0;attach=391521;image)
i know some of you WANT SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BADLY to believe he is natural, cause your afraid to take steroids, and you want to believe you can naturally fashion a physique comparable to that with a lot of time and hard work
but separate yourself from your emotional need to believe and lets think about this RATIONALLY
in this photo here..............moody looks bigger, crisper, leaner, better then any of those guys who competed back in the "golden age"...............looks better then zane, better then ferrigno, better then arnold, looks better then metzner
so are you actually gonna believe that this guys genetics are SO fucking superb.............that naturally.............he could look better in every way then zane, arnold, louie, franco did on steroids
i think we can agree that arnold and zane had some pretty good bodybuilding genetics.........do you really believe that arnold and zanes genetics were so inferior to moodys that even taking gear the could never look as good as him on stage ::) ::) ::) ::)
this guy is a lying fuckin scumbag............anyon e who knows ANYTHING about the look growth hormone gives a physique can EASILY tell this guy is on growth.........ans he is on PLENTY of steroids too, he just knows how to manipulate them
look at the guys he is standing next to ( who themselves arent natural) and look at how he is dominating them............with this physique in this picture, he could do damage in the light heavies at nationals
if you want to believe that LIAR MOODY is just SO genetically blessed...........that he is some kind of superhuman.........that he could look better then most national level untested competitors............. .i REALLY feel sorry for you
people like this guy really are the bottom of the barrel........let him stay on the "positive" board when a few delusionites suck on his androgen-shrunken nutsack...........cause he knows if he stepped on the main board he would get owned and exposed like the lying c0cksucker he is............cause although there are a lot of idiots who post on the G&O who know NOTHING about bodybuilding (noworries, disco stu, ect)............there are also plenty of guys that have been around and who know exactly what this assholes game is
Spot on
if this spastic was really natural than God only knows if he got on the juice he'd be Mr Olympia forever ::)
shame on all the nuthuggers that blindly and foolishly believe this muppets lies, you will go nowhere in bodybuilding or in life believing kunts like kiyoshi ::)
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Calm down chief, I'm just busting your chops.. Anthony Roberts is afraid to go to the mailbox these days... much less posting in an arena like getbig.
What's you take A23's truly? What amounts of drugs would be required to shed the fat to break out of generation nothingness and into hormonized purgatory?
LOL
Alex is a fat child with a Down's Syadrome appearance ... the only way he'll ever be more than a lonesome lying loser is to take Lithium and sign himself into a rehab treatment for his drinking problems ... otherwise he will always remain my BITCH - have nothing - and continue to be the hormonal pussy he is
:)
Anthony Roberts has more class and brains in his fingernail than Alex has in his entire FAT BODY <--- FACT
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LOL
Alex is a fat child with a Down's Syadrome appearance ... the only way he'll ever be more than a lonesome lying loser is to take Lithium and sign himself into a rehab treatment for his drinking problems ... otherwise he will always remain my BITCH - have nothing - and continue to be the hormonal pussy he is
:)
Anthony Roberts has more class and brains in his fingernail than Alex has in his entire FAT BODY <--- FACT
There you go again. You are only on this board to "push" hate. Ron really needs to look at all your posts as you are only attacking with unbridled passion. Maybe King hit on something, maybe you are not who you say you are?
Stay Positive!!!!!!!!!!!
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There you go again. You are only on this board to "push" hate. Ron really needs to look at all your posts as you are only attacking with unbridled passion. Maybe King hit on something, maybe you are not who you say you are?
Stay Positive!!!!!!!!!!!
hey jtsunami ... go through your posts and tell me what you're here for besides coddling Alex ?
your lack of participation here until recently clearly shows why you're here
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biggest lying piece of shit around
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biggest lying piece of shit around
This.
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seriously, logic should point out that this guy is as natural an a soccer player getting a blow job from his dog and taking a picture of it.
While GH15 uses hyperbole to get his point across he is 100% right. You can't be big, super lean and natural. The human body is not designed that way. At 5'10" you can be about 175lbs (tops) ripped and that is only for the genetically gifted.
GH15 PM me the website where I can't order some GH.
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I believe him! I've seen him compete before and after the show I ran into him and his wife at a pizza joint. Seeing him off stage leads me to believe natural. He didn't have a chemical look to him, wasn't huge in person! Under the stage lights he looked awesome. Turned out to be a very friendly humble guy. I believe! Congrats kiyoshi
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Let me tell you something.... One of his best friend has a Pharmacy.... Now think what you want...
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Hard to believe he is natural...I normally try to stay positive on these issues and try to believe when someone claims a natural status, but this guy is just too much...just look how far ahead he is from the other 2 guys in the photo....he must be the genetic 8th wonder of the world or something if he is natural. I just don't buy it.
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As natural as Joseph Fritzl's feelings for his daughter
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there is absolutely no proof of this guy being a user, and his record even from the start is in drug tested and polygraph tested contests...
he claims he is natural, his physique is good, he's been training for some time...
the real losers are those who dont think anything can be achieved without steroids.
you need to get out a little and meet some gifted muscle athletes...
even the ancient iron agers who didnt have gear to choose from sported decent physiques and that was 60 years ago when calorie contents werent printed on packaging and smoking was the norm.
ill take him at his word and until the proof balances his claims (and all your pathetic "proof" is is a bunch of insults and speculation without a hint of motive or anything suspicious).
in 60 years some things are learned, and things have come a long way. You know we flew to the moon after not even knowing how to fly in 60 years.
unsung ill say it again- you are truly a dickhead.
hope this helps.
im gonna forget the esteem crushing insults you are lobbing at me ( your just SO hurtful disco stu)
............and reiterate my hypothesis
this guy looks bigger, leaner, better, more complete onstage then arnold, franco, zane, metzner, dickerson, ferrigno, sammir (all people no one would argue were using drugs)..................NATURALLY :-\ :-\ :-\
you have no problem believing that this one individual is such a super-responding ubermench...........that NATURALLY, he could look better then arnold schwarzeneggar did ON DRUGS?????? ::) ::) ::) ::)
and mind you there have really been no major diet advances in the past 30 years.........there have been no real training breakthroughs........... what worked, has always worked
the SAME steroids then , are around now (now they are actually not as good as they were back then).............the only thing different really is growth hormone and insulin and the dosages
my logic is fucking air tight...........my heart hurts for people like you who like to be lied to.........same people who believe your government is working in your best interest............peop le like you cannot be helped :-\ :-\
but really answer me..........HOW CAN THIS GUY LOOK BETTER NATURALLY THEN ARNOLD DID ON STEROIDS???............HE MUST HAVE THE BEST GENETICS OF ANYONE EVERRRRRRRR BORN............if he took one dbol tab, he would be mr olympia for the next ten years ::) ::) ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225411.0;attach=391521;image)
(http://www.schwarzenegger-interactive.com/1975mrolympia.jpg)
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"if he took one dbol tab, he would be mr olympia for the next ten years" ;D
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As natural as the Bionic Man running a marathon ...
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there is absolutely no proof of this guy being a user,
You must be insane. :o
I don't know if it's even worth to debate it since this case is so obvious. Only a retard and Ron Harris and Dante Doggcrapp would would vouch for this guy being a natural.
Anyway, some time ago I thought I could see gyno surgery scars in his pics. When I asked Kiyoshi about it he refused to answer. ::)
I was right of course. This is a PM I received here on getbig.
Hey hows it going..I dont think it went trough the 1st time i sent a message..so here it is again..I just visited the Dr. where kiyoshi had his gyno removed.. I saw u posted a comment saying he did a bad job.. YOu guys know a lot bout this..Hes only charging me $3000..But i dont want him to do a bad job on me..maybe i'll save more and look for a diff doctor.. i dunno....he showed me a before n after pic of Kiyoshi and it looked all right..but i wrote down his name and searched online and stumbled with this page..and saw ur comment..u really think it was a bad job? thanks in advance
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You must be insane. :o
I don't know if it's even worth to debate it since this case is so obvious. Only a retard and Ron Harris and Dante Doggcrapp would would vouch for this guy being a natural.
Anyway, some time ago I thought I could see gyno surgery scars in his pics. When I asked Kiyoshi about it he refused to answer. ::)
I was right of course. This is a PM I received here on getbig.
Sometimes I wonder, if these people will believe that an extreme case like Kiyoshi is 100% natural then what other kind of stupid shit will they believe? if someone is that oblivious and naive, how do they even manage to get thru life?
I'm sure these believers are the same kind of people who get swindled by a Nigerian Prince who just inherited 1million dollars but needs to borrow $20grand to pay the taxes.
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This is a PM I received here on getbig.
I wonder sometimes how many people just jump into things without asking some questions like what's in your quoted pm ?
And if you get gyno work done why not be upfront about it and say so .. if people think it's a well done job then they have a chance to experience a bit of quality work done for themselves if they need it
all the smoke and mirrors and falsehoods is what destroys the interest in this industry more than anything else .. besides the supp scam BS that is
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You must be insane. :o
I don't know if it's even worth to debate it since this case is so obvious. Only a retard and Ron Harris and Dante Doggcrapp would would vouch for this guy being a natural.
Anyway, some time ago I thought I could see gyno surgery scars in his pics. When I asked Kiyoshi about it he refused to answer. ::)
I was right of course. This is a PM I received here on getbig.
thats what makes kyoshi SO super
he natural androgen levels of circulating testosterone are SO high, that he is the only bodybuilder in the world that can get gyno without taking steroids ;D ;D
his levels of natural testosterone are SO supraphyiological, thats why he is superhuman ::) ::) ::)
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Liar.
Pig makes money with naive folks, but that's the way it goes.
At least he looks great in contrast to Ron Hairless.
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He manages to stay within the restrictions of 'natural' shows, fair enough.
Arguably this says a lot more about the lax drug testing these show perform, as proper and anything close to exhaustive testing would cost thousands of dollars per participant. Polygraph tests have never been shown to be scientifically sound.
I am a sceptic, Kiyoshi Moody looks way too muscular to be a protein-creatin-supplements only guy. If it looks too good to be true, it usually is. At the end of the day it doesn't matter whether I believe him, I just can not take in these suppositions without strongly questioning them.
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this kind of thing makes all the guys in the know roll there eyes and sigh....
all the poor fuckers shelling out 100's on all the new supplements and daft new training theories eat these claims up, until they see the light and roll there eyes with the rest of us
bodybuilding is a progression, like when you find out how santa or the tooth fairy isnt real, takes a few years for the penny to drop
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this kind of thing makes all the guys in the know roll there eyes and sigh....
all the poor fuckers shelling out 100's on all the new supplements and daft new training theories eat these claims up, until they see the light and roll there eyes with the rest of us
bodybuilding is a progression, like when you find out how santa or the tooth fairy isnt real, takes a few years for the penny to drop
exactly!!
when you UNDERSTAND performance enhancement, and understand the sport...........there are no real surprises
yes there is a spectrum of genetics, some guys are blessed with good some guys with worse genetics............but there is a LIMIT.........there are NO supermen
when you understand what drugs do, and what different drugs do , and what different amounts of drugs do...........you know what a guy taking some winny to shread up looks like,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you knwo what a guy on deca and dbol looks like.............you know what aa guy on a lot of test looks like..............you know a guy on HGH looks like.........you know what a guy on HGH and anabolics looks like.............any you KNOW WHAT A GOOD NATURAL LOOKS LIKE
there ARE NO SURPRISES, there ARE NO SUPERMEN..............no natural can look better then arnold schwarzeneggar did on steroids.........no one has genetics that good
it even annoys me what people say "yeh, he probably does use, but you can never be sure"...............i AM sure, cause there are telling markers, and if you know what your looking at , they tell you EVERYTHING you need to know........like counting the rings on a tree.,.......the rings dont lie.........
it just frustrates me that people get duped by scumbags like kyoshi............cause it really isnt a harmless evasion of truth.........it hurts people...........people waste DECADES in the gym, waste thousands of dollars, hurt themselves, and are forever spinning their wheels with unachievable goals cause of FUCKING DICKHEADS like KYOSHI MOODY
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this kind of thing makes all the guys in the know roll there eyes and sigh....
all the poor fuckers shelling out 100's on all the new supplements and daft new training theories eat these claims up, until they see the light and roll there eyes with the rest of us
bodybuilding is a progression, like when you find out how santa or the tooth fairy isnt real, takes a few years for the penny to drop
I have started to roll my eyes too. I have seen the light! ;D
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He is a getbigger..Getbig is home to the world's greatest naturals.
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exactly!!
when you UNDERSTAND performance enhancement, and understand the sport...........there are no suprises
yes there is a spectrum of genetics, some guys are blessed with good some guys with worse genetics............but there is a LIMIT.........there are NO supermen
when you understand what drugs do, and what different drugs do , and what different amounts of drugs do...........you know what a guy taking some winny to shread up looks like,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you knwo what a guy on deca and dbol looks like.............you know what aa guy on a lot of test looks like..............you know a guy on HGH looks like.........you know what a guy on HGH and anabolics looks like.............any you KNOW WHAT A GOOD NATURAL LOOKS LIKE
there ARE NO SURPRISES, there ARE NO SUPERMEN..............no natural can look better then arnold schwarzeneggar did on steroids.........no one has genetics that good
it even annoys me what people say "yeh, he probably does use, but you can never be sure"...............i AM sure, cause there are telling markers, and if you know what your looking at , they tell you EVERYTHING you need to know........like counting the rings on a tree.,.......the rings dont lie.........
it just frustrates me that people get dupedby scumbags like kyoshi............cause it really isnt harmless...........peopl e waste DECADES in the gym, waste thousands of dollars, hurth themselves, and are forever spinning their wheels with unachievable goals cause of FUCKING DICKHEADS like KYOSHI MOODY
good post ;)
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Offseason Diet program
Meal 1- 3 scoops of iso mass extreme gainer with 2 scoops of vitargo
Meal 2- 10egg whites, 2whole eggs with 1 1/2c of oatmeal with 2tablespoons of organic peanut butter
Meal 3- 16 to 24oz of cooked chicken, 2c of white rice, 1c of green beans
Meal 4- 16 to 24oz of cooked chicken, 2c of white rice, 1c of green beans
Meal 5- 16 to 24oz of cooked steak, 2 whole sweet potatos, 1c of green beans
Meal 6- 2 scoops of iso mass extreme gainer with 2 scoops of vitargo
Meal 7- 16 to 24oz of cooked steak, 1c of grits, 1c of green beans
Meal 8- 16 to 24oz of cooked chicken, 2c of whole wheat pasta
Meal 9- 10egg whites, 2whole eggs with 1 1/2c of oatmeal with 2tablespoons of organic peanut butter or 2scoops of casein and 1 scoop of whey isolate and 1cup of white rice
Cheat meals were on tuesdays and saturdays. They were included with all the other meals.
Supplements used:
Xtend- 6scoops 5times per day
Digestive enzymes- 2pills every meal
Vitargo 2x not including preworkout, intra and post
Superpump or whiteflood or EVP
Multivitamin 2x/day
Potassium 2x/day
Sizeon or crealyze 2sccops 2x/day
Isomass extreme gainer(protein)
Iso 100 (protein by dymatize)
NanoX9, 10pills/day
Omega pills 1pill 3x/day
Joint supps, 5pills, 2x/day
Precontest is carb cycling!
This is what I did this offseason. Sometimes I exchanged fish for chicken. The first 2 weeks on this diet was very hard because my body wasn't use to the food! The digetive enzymes helped a lot!
and this is his off-season diet, :o :o
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and this is his off-season diet, :o :o
maybe all those supplements work for real!! ::) ::)
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There is always the possibility that he is one in a million in terms of natural potential, he might be the 'black swan' that disproves the theory that you can't look like that without anabolics. Is it the most sensible assumption to go by? Of course not.
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There is always the possibility that he is one in a million in terms of natural potential, he might be the 'black swan' that disproves the theory that you can't look like that without anabolics. Is it the most sensible assumption to go by? Of course not.
Getbig is filled with 'black swans' ....and huge ar y an ones too..
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How much does this ugly guy weigh?
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Getbig is filled with 'black swans' ....and huge ar y an ones too..
Swans....not queens.. ;D
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Moody is a lying piece of shit.
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exactly!!
when you UNDERSTAND performance enhancement, and understand the sport...........there are no real surprises
yes there is a spectrum of genetics, some guys are blessed with good some guys with worse genetics............but there is a LIMIT.........there are NO supermen
when you understand what drugs do, and what different drugs do , and what different amounts of drugs do...........you know what a guy taking some winny to shread up looks like,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you knwo what a guy on deca and dbol looks like.............you know what aa guy on a lot of test looks like..............you know a guy on HGH looks like.........you know what a guy on HGH and anabolics looks like.............any you KNOW WHAT A GOOD NATURAL LOOKS LIKE
there ARE NO SURPRISES, there ARE NO SUPERMEN..............no natural can look better then arnold schwarzeneggar did on steroids.........no one has genetics that good
it even annoys me what people say "yeh, he probably does use, but you can never be sure"...............i AM sure, cause there are telling markers, and if you know what your looking at , they tell you EVERYTHING you need to know........like counting the rings on a tree.,.......the rings dont lie.........
it just frustrates me that people get duped by scumbags like kyoshi............cause it really isnt a harmless evasion of truth.........it hurts people...........people waste DECADES in the gym, waste thousands of dollars, hurt themselves, and are forever spinning their wheels with unachievable goals cause of FUCKING DICKHEADS like KYOSHI MOODY
meltdown
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there is absolutely no proof of this guy being a user, and his record even from the start is in drug tested and polygraph tested contests...
he claims he is natural, his physique is good, he's been training for some time...
the real losers are those who dont think anything can be achieved without steroids.
you need to get out a little and meet some gifted muscle athletes...
even the ancient iron agers who didnt have gear to choose from sported decent physiques and that was 60 years ago when calorie contents werent printed on packaging and smoking was the norm.
ill take him at his word and until the proof balances his claims (and all your pathetic "proof" is is a bunch of insults and speculation without a hint of motive or anything suspicious).
in 60 years some things are learned, and things have come a long way. You know we flew to the moon after not even knowing how to fly in 60 years.
unsung ill say it again- you are truly a dickhead.
hope this helps.
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i know some of you WANT SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BADLY to believe he is natural, cause your afraid to take steroids, and you want to believe you can naturally fashion a physique comparable to that with a lot of time and hard work
but separate yourself from your emotional need to believe and lets think about this RATIONALLY
in this photo here..............moody looks bigger, crisper, leaner, better then any of those guys who competed back in the "golden age"...............looks better then zane, better then ferrigno, better then arnold, looks better then metzner
so are you actually gonna believe that this guys genetics are SO fucking superb.............that naturally.............he could look better in every way then zane, arnold, louie, franco did on steroids
i think we can agree that arnold and zane had some pretty good bodybuilding genetics.........do you really believe that arnold and zanes genetics were so inferior to moodys that even taking gear the could never look as good as him on stage ::) ::) ::) ::)
this guy is a lying fuckin scumbag............anyon e who knows ANYTHING about the look growth hormone gives a physique can EASILY tell this guy is on growth.........ans he is on PLENTY of steroids too, he just knows how to manipulate them
look at the guys he is standing next to ( who themselves arent natural) and look at how he is dominating them............with this physique in this picture, he could do damage in the light heavies at nationals
if you want to believe that LIAR MOODY is just SO genetically blessed...........that he is some kind of superhuman.........that he could look better then most national level untested competitors............. .i REALLY feel sorry for you
people like this guy really are the bottom of the barrel........let him stay on the "positive" board when a few delusionites suck on his androgen-shrunken nutsack...........cause he knows if he stepped on the main board he would get owned and exposed like the lying c0cksucker he is............cause although there are a lot of idiots who post on the G&O who know NOTHING about bodybuilding (noworries, disco stu, ect)............there are also plenty of guys that have been around and who know exactly what this assholes game is
great post!
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I believe him! I've seen him compete before and after the show I ran into him and his wife at a pizza joint. Seeing him off stage leads me to believe natural. He didn't have a chemical look to him, wasn't huge in person! Under the stage lights he looked awesome. Turned out to be a very friendly humble guy. I believe! Congrats kiyoshi
So by that logic you would have thought Arnold was natural too if you had happen to meet him in the offsean. Hell Kevin Levrone was natural too then.
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exactly!!
when you UNDERSTAND performance enhancement, and understand the sport...........there are no real surprises
yes there is a spectrum of genetics, some guys are blessed with good some guys with worse genetics............but there is a LIMIT.........there are NO supermen
when you understand what drugs do, and what different drugs do , and what different amounts of drugs do...........you know what a guy taking some winny to shread up looks like,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you knwo what a guy on deca and dbol looks like.............you know what aa guy on a lot of test looks like..............you know a guy on HGH looks like.........you know what a guy on HGH and anabolics looks like.............any you KNOW WHAT A GOOD NATURAL LOOKS LIKE
there ARE NO SURPRISES, there ARE NO SUPERMEN..............no natural can look better then arnold schwarzeneggar did on steroids.........no one has genetics that good
it even annoys me what people say "yeh, he probably does use, but you can never be sure"...............i AM sure, cause there are telling markers, and if you know what your looking at , they tell you EVERYTHING you need to know........like counting the rings on a tree.,.......the rings dont lie.........
it just frustrates me that people get duped by scumbags like kyoshi............cause it really isnt a harmless evasion of truth.........it hurts people...........people waste DECADES in the gym, waste thousands of dollars, hurt themselves, and are forever spinning their wheels with unachievable goals cause of FUCKING DICKHEADS like KYOSHI MOODY
another great post, telling it like it is
all these NATURLA LIARS like MOODY< ADE RAI< KOMNAG ARNAWA< KEITH BULLOBCK ALL LIARS
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I know for a fact that his 115lbs girlfriend is also juicing (true story ).
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I know for a fact that his 115lbs girlfriend is also juicing (true story ).
who is he Roger Clemens ?? Oh yeah he didn't juice either. ::) ::)
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I would believe than layne norton is natural, I think a guy like doug miller is stupid for think we would believe he's natural. But this guy Kioshy M is in another level, he is pretty pretty pretty fucked up in his mind, he looks almost exactly like any other IFBB pro and he comes here telling us he's natural??? Yes he looks awesome but don't treat people like we are mental challenged ::)
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fela,,..all 3 fellas on photo uses minimum 2g+of aas.. kiyoshi moddu fella runs aas+GH! see fulness of shoulders and traps compard to other 2 fella, 8ius+ of GH is why. GH is reason he is fuller from everywhere legs,arms,shoulders!! more muscle fibers than other fella=GH+aas to blow them fibers up!!!
gh15 approved
NICE ;D
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Esp Asians have a strong tend to lie (no racist, just "life experience")
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the thing i find most strange... is that there are no off season pics of kyoshi...
i saw his offseason diet, now i want to see the offseason pics...
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I would believe than layne norton is natural, I think a guy like doug miller is stupid for think we would believe he's natural. But this guy Kioshy M is in another level, he is pretty pretty pretty fucked up in his mind, he looks almost exactly like any other IFBB pro and he comes here telling us he's natural??? Yes he looks awesome but don't treat people like we are mental challenged ::)
good post and I agree.
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Apparently Kiyoshi grows into shows ala Kevin Levrone...He must be natural! ::)
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Apparently Kiyoshi grows into shows ala Kevin Levrone...He must be natural! ::)
Haha , not only that he is 40 years old and he gained 20 lbs of muscle in the past year (naturally OFC ) .
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Apparently Kiyoshi grows into shows ala Kevin Levrone...He must be natural! ::)
bell curve diets do not work for true naturals unless recovering from injury or long layoff... (and the "added" mass only comes from true-natural-base musclemass)
this is my opinion coming from training and prepping over hundreds of gymrats... and from my own experience too just saying ;)
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his calves look natural
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alex is just as usual out of his mind,,leader of generation nothingness,,this fella mioshi is on everything ifbb professional is on,,EVERY SINGLE PRODUCT,,but the difference is he try to push it as natural,,
if you think for a second this fella doesnt have gh in his blood none stop for a long time,,if you think this fella doesnt beg from his dealer for stuff every 4 weeks and ask to rush it in ,,if you think this fella doesnt spend ALL HIS MONEY ON HORMONES ,,then you deserve to be where youre at in bodybuilding,,
this is A LIAR,,A STINKY LIAR,,HE IS THE TYPE OF FELLA THAT WILL LIE IN COURT,,AND WILL LIE TO WIFE,, AND WILL LIE TO FRIEND,,AND WILL LIE AND LIE AND LIE INORDER TO GET SOMEWHERE,,THE SAD PART IS THAT HIS FRIEND WILL BUY THE LIE AND WILL BELIEVE,,
therer were times i thought to bust those naturals and shed them to light with controled delivery,,but the money was so so good ,,its just not worth it ,,they pay alot of money
gh15 you have the money, just shed the light on these so called naturals and put them to shame. You should don it for the sake of BB and for your legend to continue.
gh15 approved
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delusional, i-will-believe-ANYTHING cock-suckery..............lot of that in you ::) ::) ::)
god your a homo...
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I would believe than layne norton is natural, I think a guy like doug miller is stupid for think we would believe he's natural. But this guy Kioshy M is in another level, he is pretty pretty pretty fucked up in his mind, he looks almost exactly like any other IFBB pro and he comes here telling us he's natural??? Yes he looks awesome but don't treat people like we are mental challenged ::)
you are another one of the ignorant if you think Layne Norton is life time natural
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exactly!!
when you UNDERSTAND performance enhancement, and understand the sport...........there are no real surprises
yes there is a spectrum of genetics, some guys are blessed with good some guys with worse genetics............but there is a LIMIT.........there are NO supermen
when you understand what drugs do, and what different drugs do , and what different amounts of drugs do...........you know what a guy taking some winny to shread up looks like,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you knwo what a guy on deca and dbol looks like.............you know what aa guy on a lot of test looks like..............you know a guy on HGH looks like.........you know what a guy on HGH and anabolics looks like.............any you KNOW WHAT A GOOD NATURAL LOOKS LIKE
there ARE NO SURPRISES, there ARE NO SUPERMEN..............no natural can look better then arnold schwarzeneggar did on steroids.........no one has genetics that good
it even annoys me what people say "yeh, he probably does use, but you can never be sure"...............i AM sure, cause there are telling markers, and if you know what your looking at , they tell you EVERYTHING you need to know........like counting the rings on a tree.,.......the rings dont lie.........
it just frustrates me that people get duped by scumbags like kyoshi............cause it really isnt a harmless evasion of truth.........it hurts people...........people waste DECADES in the gym, waste thousands of dollars, hurt themselves, and are forever spinning their wheels with unachievable goals cause of FUCKING DICKHEADS like KYOSHI MOODY
this might be kind of harsh, but so is a strong cup of coffee. We need to wake up and accept what has happened to "natural" bodybuilding. The truth is that there really hasn't ever been natural bodybuilding for over half a century.
As soon as you find a test for every anabolic, HGH and peptide there will be some new sarm or genetic tampering that comes next. Natural bodybuilding is dead and it will never come back.
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this might be kind of harsh, but so is a strong cup of coffee. We need to wake up and accept what has happened to "natural" bodybuilding. The truth is that there really hasn't ever been natural bodybuilding for over half a century.
As soon as you find a test for every anabolic, HGH and peptide there will be some new sarm or genetic tampering that comes next. Natural bodybuilding is dead and it will never come back.
its all such bullshit
creatine is a chemical produced by the human body, that when synthesized in a lab and taken exogenously in superphysiological dosages helps build muscle
testosterone is a chemical produced by the human body, that when synthesized in a lab and taken exogenously in superphysiological dosages helps build muscle
but one is legal, and one is not..........one is cheating, one is not
i mean how fucking arbitrary is that...........
taking whey protein isnt "nautral"
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great post!!
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there is absolutely no proof of this guy being a user, and his record even from the start is in drug tested and polygraph tested contests...
he claims he is natural, his physique is good, he's been training for some time...
the real losers are those who dont think anything can be achieved without steroids.
you need to get out a little and meet some gifted muscle athletes...
hope this helps.
I bet you`re the type of guy who is rather too easily overcome with adrosterone while slipping one too many dollar bills into one too many "gifted muscle athlete" thongs'.
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I bet you`re the type of guy who is rather too easily overcome with adrosterone while slipping one too many dollar bills into one too many "gifted muscle athlete" thongs'.
leave him alone............geez... .....cant a guy believe in his heros anymore ::)
he just needs to believe
........cause they are heros........and a hero would never lie to serve a personal agenda or craft an image
;D ;D
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i know some of you WANT SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BADLY to believe he is natural, cause your afraid to take steroids, and you want to believe you can naturally fashion a physique comparable to that with a lot of time and hard work
but separate yourself from your emotional need to believe and lets think about this RATIONALLY
in this photo here..............moody looks bigger, crisper, leaner, better then any of those guys who competed back in the "golden age"...............looks better then zane, better then ferrigno, better then arnold, looks better then metzner
so are you actually gonna believe that this guys genetics are SO fucking superb.............that naturally.............he could look better in every way then zane, arnold, louie, franco did on steroids
i think we can agree that arnold and zane had some pretty good bodybuilding genetics.........do you really believe that arnold and zanes genetics were so inferior to moodys that even taking gear the could never look as good as him on stage ::) ::) ::) ::)
this guy is a lying fuckin scumbag............anyon e who knows ANYTHING about the look growth hormone gives a physique can EASILY tell this guy is on growth.........ans he is on PLENTY of steroids too, he just knows how to manipulate them
look at the guys he is standing next to ( who themselves arent natural) and look at how he is dominating them............with this physique in this picture, he could do damage in the light heavies at nationals
if you want to believe that LIAR MOODY is just SO genetically blessed...........that he is some kind of superhuman.........that he could look better then most national level untested competitors............. .i REALLY feel sorry for you
people like this guy really are the bottom of the barrel........let him stay on the "positive" board when a few delusionites suck on his androgen-shrunken nutsack...........cause he knows if he stepped on the main board he would get owned and exposed like the lying c0cksucker he is............cause although there are a lot of idiots who post on the G&O who know NOTHING about bodybuilding (noworries, disco stu, ect)............there are also plenty of guys that have been around and who know exactly what this assholes game is
Absolutely brilliant post. Anyone who disagrees has absoluetly no clue what they're talking about.
I understand if someone ask u if u juice and u say no, but for him to be on a campaing saying he's natural ala skip lacour and a few others is dispicable.
The problem with him is he's preventing Natural athletes from actually being natural. what do you do if you're 100% natural, compete in TESTED (not natural shows, big difference) and a guy who's obviously juicing comes in and beat you yr after yr. Mr Moody is as responsible if not more for other competitors using hormones than a Jay Cutler.
Noone's hating on this guy, those in the know have an ethics problem with someone like him who juices and only do natural shows, you have to be very insecure. It's no different than a guy who can cut it against other guys so he dresses up as a girl to compete and dominate the the girls and feels good about himself.
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Anyone who gets in great shape is automatically labled a 'steroid' user, whether it is true or not.
That is a fact.
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delusional, i-will-believe-ANYTHING cock-suckery..............lot of that in you ::) ::) ::)
god your a homo...
The only thing "I believe" is that you are bitter, butthurt, and really stupid.
It's "you're", as in YOU ARE, you fucking moron.
Hope this helps! Kill yourself. :)
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I believe him! I've seen him compete before and after the show I ran into him and his wife at a pizza joint. Seeing him off stage leads me to believe natural. He didn't have a chemical look to him, wasn't huge in person! Under the stage lights he looked awesome. Turned out to be a very friendly humble guy. I believe! Congrats kiyoshi
The problem is you're associating steroids with huge muscles. that's only one possible result of it. it's not the muscle size that determines if you're natural or not it's fullness. Noone and I mean noone, not Arnold, Ronnie, Flex, Haney, Dorian etc had that fullness naturally.
Iris Kyle is a small girl in person, smaller than Moody. Once she gets onstage she looks bigger than Moody. Doesn't make her natural
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The only thing "I believe" is that you are bitter, butthurt, and really stupid.
It's "you're", as in YOU ARE, you fucking moron.
Hope this helps! Kill yourself. :)
haha, the time honored "i got OWENED SO I WILL ATTTACK HIS SPELLING APPROACH" ::) ::)
like an old fuckin grandmother, pointing out spellin errors
peopel like you take this all seriously, probably type your messages in word then paste them, read over them a couple of times...............whil e people like me, sit on their couch with a their notebook on thier lap, watchin g TV, while clickin to a dozen different websites, while talkin to to my girlfriend, while writing an email......
you really are the biggest homo on this site.........and here , i left teh spelling errors in, so you can read over my posting and melt grandma ;D ;D
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Unsung, you have hit the nail on the head.
These folks, God love them, still believe in the bell curve theory proposed by Samuel L. Jackson's character in "Unbreakable"; to wit, that real superheroes are walking this Earth.
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haha, the time honored "i got OWENED SO I WILL ATTTACK HIS SPELLING APPROACH" ::) ::)
like an old fuckin grandmother, pointing out spellin errors
peopel like you take this all seriously, probably type your messages in word then paste them, read over them a couple of times...............whil e people like me, sit on their couch with a their notebook on thier lap, watchin g TV, while clickin to a dozen different websites, while talkin to to my girlfriend, while writing an email......
you really are the biggest homo on this site.........and here , i left teh spelling errors in, so you can read over my posting and melt grandma ;D ;D
lol
So,in order to be intelligent enough to know how to use 3rd grade contractions correctly you have to be a "grandma." No wonder you are a loser and your life sucks. :D
Of course, you have so many mentally challenging projects going on that you don't have time to spell correctly or use proper grammar. ::)
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you are another one of the ignorant if you think Layne Norton is life time natural
I said "I would", I did not say "I do" 8)
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haha, the time honored "i got OWENED SO I WILL ATTTACK HIS SPELLING APPROACH" ::) ::)
like an old fuckin grandmother, pointing out spellin errors
peopel like you take this all seriously, probably type your messages in word then paste them, read over them a couple of times...............whil e people like me, sit on their couch with a their notebook on thier lap, watchin g TV, while clickin to a dozen different websites, while talkin to to my girlfriend, while writing an email......
you really are the biggest homo on this site.........and here , i left teh spelling errors in, so you can read over my posting and melt grandma ;D ;D
lol @ "probably type your messages in word then paste them"
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the thing i find most strange... is that there are no off season pics of kyoshi...
i saw his offseason diet, now i want to see the offseason pics...
So do you think he is a user?? That being said, didn't you claim natural yourself a few years back when you posted pics, if that was you??
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Unsung, you have hit the nail on the head.
These folks, God love them, still believe in the bell curve theory proposed by Samuel L. Jackson's character in "Unbreakable"; to wit, that real superheroes are walking this Earth.
poor guys
think of the logic involved to accept without protest that a natural kyoshi moody, can be bigger and leaner on stage then a hormonized arnold schwarzeneggar.......... .
what revolutionary traning and diet breakthroughs have happened in the past 30 years exactly to account for this..........cause i haven been turned on to any
it that same people that like to believe ridiculous conspiracy theories, you cant tell them different, caue they want to believe , they are invested in believing.........it makes their lives more interesting
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Bottom line is there are NO natural bbers as far as competition goes.
I remember when Tito Raymond was claiming natural when doing the Mr Universe and nationals ::)
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lol @ "probably type your messages in word then paste them"
That's the only way "Un_Hung" (aka Mike P.) thinks someone can type an intelligent two sentence post. ::) A colossal moron.
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That's the only way "Un_Hung" (aka Mike P.) thinks someone can type an intelligent two sentence post. ::) A colossal moron.
wasn't anything against you...I try to stay away from other people's 'fights'...just thought that line was funny ;)
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That's the only way "Un_Hung" (aka Mike P.) thinks someone can type an intelligent two sentence post. ::) A colossal moron.
your just a fucking insane basement-dwelling loser.....
like who the fuck is "mike p.".............i dont even know what that is................. ::) ::)
but somehow with your fag-logic............you have connected me with a person i have never even heard of ::)
your mother must jab nails in her ugly pussy everyday as pennance for shitting out a dolt fuckin waterhead like you
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your just a fucking insane basement-dwelling loser.....
like who the fuck is "mike p.".............i dont even know what that is................. ::) ::)
but somehow with your fag-logic............you have connected me with a person i have never even heard of ::)
your mother must jab nails in her ugly pussy everyday as pennance for shitting out a dolt fuckin waterhead like you
(http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/denial-and-the-coming-data-meltdown.jpg)
;D ;D
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Looks like we have a true cock gobbler here in "Un_Hung," folks. :-\
i dont know much about porn, especially male porn guys
but i saw this guy on stern a couple of times, tall good looking smart dude
(http://thecivilians.org/pornmusical/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/IMG_1374.JPG)
(http://www.tlavideo.com/mailer_images/bangbangs/04_15_09/NickManning.jpg)
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wow, being able to admit that a guy is "tall" or "handsome"..................i am quite the cock-gobbler ::) ::) ::)
you fucking pathetic closet case..........really going out of your way to act tough and masculine so you dont get "exposed"
..........yet you expose yourself with EVERY word :-\ :-\ :-\
now please............more "theories" about me being people i have never heard of..........fucking inbred detective ::) ::)
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this guy is superman !!!! no roids no hgh,!!! no nothin!!! no pain meds!!! nothin !!why dont u guys believe him ??? why do u pick on this guy who is actually superman.!!! you know he can fly and jump tall buildingS in a single bound,faster than a sppeeedddiinnggg bullet.
hell this guy is what smallville is all about the prodigy the GOD!
why question superman its not nice people!!
I BELIEVE I BELIEVE!!!
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What, this Moody guy claims to be natural?
Another fucking liar, just like Big Ach and Groink.
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Bottom line is there are NO natural bbers as far as competition goes.
I remember when Tito Raymond was claiming natural when doing the Mr Universe and nationals ::)
Didn't Ron Harris recently claim that Jose Raymond was natural up until 2008? Oh Brother ::)
The lies that some ppl spew in this 'industry' are disgusting
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Bottom line is there are NO natural bbers as far as competition goes.
::)
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un-sung is a passionate and insightful poster
his assessment on this matter, as with many others, is spot on
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LOL... see anyone can "gh15" around .. not that hard ;D
Kyoshi = huge asian bastard. If not natural, definitely not chemically saturated... separation only guys from the early 80's had, where drug to training + diet was at its best.
LOL...Let me assure it's not his Asian side responsible for how he looks...He's black and Jap...and that's the black that's the reason he looks the way he does...No different than a Levrone or a Dillet...
When's the last time you saw an Asian with that shape and muscularity? look at Hide...he's 100% Jap and human pin cushion...
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Another case of Superior Asian genetics on display....no surprise here.
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Another case of Superior Asian genetics on display....no surprise here.
;D
LOL...You wish...He's half black...Another case of black genetics picking up the tab... ;D
He was a track and field athlete and tried out for NFL...No Jap is gonna do that unless it's punter or kicker...
Had it been an IQ test I'd agree ;D
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So you believe there are true naturals competiting then?? As far as bbing competition goes everyone is on one thing or another whether GH, hormones, etc... Some probably don't use as much as others and some are juiced to the gills.
Didn't you compete? You should know.
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So you believe there are true naturals competing then??
competing yes, winning or even placing no
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Natural or not. the man has an awesome physique that makes me proud to be human and own delts.
Easy to dismiss and say "He's a juicer", it's another to come even close to his conditionning, "juice" or not..
Look at the abusers, Palumbo, Prince, Kovacs & co... look at Kiyoshi... it's obvious.
strong will made out of mid air paper cutting Japanese steel.
Only in America.
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only in America alright.............can people be so naive and gullible
idiot Americans can convince themselves of ANYTHING if its something they want to believe
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Natural or not. the man has an awesome physique that makes me proud to be human and own delts.
Easy to dismiss and say "He's a juicer", it's another to come even close to his conditionning, "juice" or not..
Look at the abusers, Palumbo, Prince, Kovacs & co... look at Kiyoshi... it's obvious.
strong will made out of mid air paper cutting Japanese steel.
Only in America. ::)
So you support lying Alex?
As long as someone looks good they can lie thru their teeth and its ok?
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So you support lying Alex?
As long as someone looks good they can lie thru their teeth and its ok?
Drug tests, lie detector... the guy doesn't look like an overbloated trenbolone/test suspension cow..... what else you want...
the world is gray brother...
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Drug tests, lie detector... the guy doesn't look like an overbloated trenbolone/test suspension cow..... what else you want...
the world is gray brother...
Neither did the guys back in the 70's 80's and early 90's, but they were juiced to the gills too
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Drug tests, lie detector... the guy doesn't look like an overbloated trenbolone/test suspension cow..... what else you want...
the world is gray brother...
Alex you dont really believe he's natural do you ???
5'10 and 200lbs with super low body fat can be done naturally?
This guy must have the best genetics on planet earth then.
And oh yea btw, naturals done have GYNO surgery in their mid 30's. Just some food for thought.
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Neither did the guys back in the 70's 80's and early 90's, but they were juiced to the gills too
We were no..........never mind!
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You tools are so up to your eyeballs in juice you wouldn't recognize natural if it crapped on your face!
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You tools are so up to your eyeballs in juice you wouldn't recognize natural if it crapped on your face!
Ok "bodyofsteel" ::)
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We were no..........never mind!
lol well I remember being at a Tom Platz seminar he said all he took for the 81 Olympia was 200 mg of deca and a little winstrol.
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Where did kyomu go?
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Where did kyomu go?
Kyomu is happy and married now , planning family so no more time for GB or internet , shit what does that say about us ;D
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lol well I remember being at a Tom Platz seminar he said all he took for the 81 Olympia was 200 mg of deca and a little winstrol.
He took more then Lee Priest!!!
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Kyomu is happy and married now , planning family so no more time for GB or internet , shit what does that say about us ;D
We are fu*ked up. ;D
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Kyomu is happy and married now , planning family so no more time for GB or internet , shit what does that say about us ;D
LOL!!!!!
I dunno... I'm not stalking the guy.. I'm not roaming the internets for all his whereabouts, claims, ball size and bra size.. I honestly don't care... guys has an impressive physique and competed in a "natural" federation for a while now, whatever the fuck the criteria are....
That witch hunting has no real goal really... he's not fully "n-a-t-u-r-a-l".... so the fuck what? Did he move you guy's cheese? Why so much hatred? Are you guys juiced or not, unable to achieve his physique and frustrated by it?
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LOL!!!!!
I dunno... I'm not stalking the guy.. I'm not roaming the internets for all his whereabouts, claims, ball size and bra size.. I honestly don't care... guys has an impressive physique and competed in a "natural" federation for a while now, whatever the fuck the criteria are....
That witch hunting has no real goal really... he's not fully "n-a-t-u-r-a-l".... so the fuck what? Did he move you guy's cheese? Why so much hatred? Are you juice or not unable to achieve his physique and frustrated by it?
I agree he has a great build but yourself and I know with the amount of time we have been lifting that he is not natural , I could care less about what he uses , he still trains hard and diets and has alot of discipline and most gym rats that juice will never look like him.
What I have an issue with is the promotion of his build as being attainable without hormones and metbolism raising agents because it is not so he is lying.
Guys like this bang there chest under this "natural" badge as though they are somthing special when they are not they use exactly the same stuff as the bigger boys in the pro ranks so looking at it like that , this shows he has pretty average genetics for BB and thats why they sit under this natural badge and how they sell themselves to make money then there are the supplements that go with this lie "this is what i take ,buy it and you will look like me".as a teenager I got sucked in with the cybergenics rubbish thinking if I take phase1 I will look like Franco Santorielo , it must be true as the mags are telling me this , maybe it would of helped if they said he doesnt actualy touch this stuff he has amazing genetics and is on a fuckload of drugs..
So in a nutshell the "natural" term is a sham because these guys use exactly the same stuff as the big boys but would be nothing running around with them so use the natural lie to make there mark.
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That witch hunting has no real goal really... he's not fully "n-a-t-u-r-a-l".... so the fuck what? Did he move you guy's cheese? Why so much hatred? Are you guys juiced or not, unable to achieve his physique and frustrated by it?
That's a completely different issue: he looks awesome, nobody's denying that. He puts himself out there with his natural claim, surely he's gonna get some flak, especially when you have 20 pounds on the next best competitor.
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U are either a liar or delusional
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U are either a liar or delusional
how about both,,
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Natural or not. the man has an awesome physique that makes me proud to be human and own delts.
Easy to dismiss and say "He's a juicer", it's another to come even close to his conditionning, "juice" or not..
Look at the abusers, Palumbo, Prince, Kovacs & co... look at Kiyoshi... it's obvious.
strong will made out of mid air paper cutting Japanese steel.
Only in America.
You just want to sit on the man's lap.
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I agree he has a great build but yourself and I know with the amount of time we have been lifting that he is not natural , I could care less about what he uses , he still trains hard and diets and has alot of discipline and most gym rats that juice will never look like him.
What I have an issue with is the promotion of his build as being attainable without hormones and metbolism raising agents because it is not so he is lying.
Guys like this bang there chest under this "natural" badge as though they are somthing special when they are not they use exactly the same stuff as the bigger boys in the pro ranks so looking at it like that , this shows he has pretty average genetics for BB and thats why they sit under this natural badge and how they sell themselves to make money then there are the supplements that go with this lie "this is what i take ,buy it and you will look like me".as a teenager I got sucked in with the cybergenics rubbish thinking if I take phase1 I will look like Franco Santorielo , it must be true as the mags are telling me this , maybe it would of helped if they said he doesnt actualy touch this stuff he has amazing genetics and is on a fuckload of drugs..
So in a nutshell the "natural" term is a sham because these guys use exactly the same stuff as the big boys but would be nothing running around with them so use the natural lie to make there mark.
good post