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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: tbombz on December 03, 2010, 12:26:34 PM
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Not claiming to be a superior guru than gh15 or discrediting him in any way.. The guy knows his stuff. I learned a lot from him.... The importance of using drugs mainly.... But come on guys.. He has been saying the same thing for years now, and now we have a wave of guys , some of which that used to call gh15 an idiot, all on his balls and acting as if they have found the holy grail in this latest posts. Nothing new there dudes... He has always said lots of roids + lots of gh = big ripped bodybuilder... However let me tell you something, especially for this new crop of gh15 believers... A lot of you seem very excited to start " mutating"... You are expecting dramatic changes and to look like a bodybuilder overnight.. Most of y'all probably think you already look at least a little muscular, and with the way gh15 describes the effects of drugs you do not doubt you'll be a beast in no time - a few months max. The reality is that you are going to be both amazed by how much faster you can grow and get lean, but also become aware of the fact that even with the dramatic increase in recovery, growth, etc that its going to take you a very long time in order to look like you want to. And itslikely, if your serious about building your dream body, you will stay on for the next severalyears of yourlife,if not decades... Mbecause that is how much use it is goiing to take for you to get there, even if your training insane and eating huge...
Okay okay, I'm not trying to hate on anybody 's excitement and eagerness to juice nor am I trying to discourage anyone from juicing.. Just a dose of reality for those of you who need it
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Not claiming to be a superior guru than gh15 or discrediting him in any way.. The guy knows his stuff. I learned a lot from him.... The importance of using drugs mainly.... But come on guys.. He has been saying the same thing for years now, and now we have a wave of guys , some of which that used to call gh15 an idiot, all on his balls and acting as if they have found the holy grail in this latest posts. Nothing new there dudes... He has always said lots of roids + lots of gh = big ripped bodybuilder... However let me tell you something, especially for this new crop of gh15 believers... A lot of you seem very excited to start " mutating"... You are expecting dramatic changes and to look like a bodybuilder overnight.. Most of y'all probably think you already look at least a little muscular, and with the way gh15 describes the effects of drugs you do not doubt you'll be a beast in no time - a few months max. The reality is that you are going to be both amazed by how much faster you can grow and get lean, but also become aware of the fact that even with the dramatic increase in recovery, growth, etc that its going to take you a very long time in order to look like you want to. And itslikely, if your serious about building your dream body, you will stay on for the next severalyears of yourlife,if not decades... Mbecause that is how much use it is goiing to take for you to get there, even if your training insane and eating huge...
Okay okay, I'm not trying to hate on anybody 's excitement and eagerness to juice nor am I trying to discourage anyone from juicing.. Just a dose of reality for those of you who need it
You are not a board veteran. And you took it up the ass. Hope this helps.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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You are not a board veteran. And you took it up the ass. Hope this helps.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Ahahahaha, credibility = zero when you take up the ass.
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Not claiming to be a superior guru than gh15 or discrediting him in any way.. The guy knows his stuff. I learned a lot from him.... The importance of using drugs mainly.... But come on guys.. He has been saying the same thing for years now, and now we have a wave of guys , some of which that used to call gh15 an idiot, all on his balls and acting as if they have found the holy grail in this latest posts. Nothing new there dudes... He has always said lots of roids + lots of gh = big ripped bodybuilder... However let me tell you something, especially for this new crop of gh15 believers... A lot of you seem very excited to start " mutating"... You are expecting dramatic changes and to look like a bodybuilder overnight.. Most of y'all probably think you already look at least a little muscular, and with the way gh15 describes the effects of drugs you do not doubt you'll be a beast in no time - a few months max. The reality is that you are going to be both amazed by how much faster you can grow and get lean, but also become aware of the fact that even with the dramatic increase in recovery, growth, etc that its going to take you a very long time in order to look like you want to. And itslikely, if your serious about building your dream body, you will stay on for the next severalyears of yourlife,if not decades... Mbecause that is how much use it is goiing to take for you to get there, even if your training insane and eating huge...
Okay okay, I'm not trying to hate on anybody 's excitement and eagerness to juice nor am I trying to discourage anyone from juicing.. Just a dose of reality for those of you who need it
translation = i've been using bunk gear for 5 years and put on 4 lbs of fat, "the gains are slow, but i'm growing". you also take it up the ass.
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Why is it, back in the day I could shoot 300 mg of Primo and 200 mg of test a week, and pop a few winstrol tabs a day..and looked 1000 times better than most of the guys on here that claim they use grams a week of gear, GH, and insulin? Can Gh15 answer that?
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I agree with you Tbombz, alot of people think they will be huuge after 1 or 2 cycles of test,deca and dbol. In reality it takes many many cycles before you can build anything respectable. The most important factor regarding drugs is time and consistency. Drugs are the most important obviously, but you got to put your time in and be consistent with training and diet.
There are exceptions to this tho, there are kids who grow and look sick after a few cycles...but for the majority of us, its a slow and steady climb.
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There are exceptions to this tho, there are kids who grow and look sick after a few cycles...but for the majority of us, its a slow and steady climb.
What role does taking one in the ass play?
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Far as I know he's never said anything new or revolutionary, unless it's in one of those novels he writes, but who reads those?
Getting hyoge,,, meenz lot of drugs. Ya no shit, Sherlock. ::)
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fat twink on a motorbike meltdown
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I would be pro- size in months if I took what they take...
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I would be pro- size in months if I took what they take...
maybe...but you would have to be on for years to approach their quality.
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Why is it, back in the day I could shoot 300 mg of Primo and 200 mg of test a week, and pop a few winstrol tabs a day..and looked 1000 times better than most of the guys on here that claim they use grams a week of gear, GH, and insulin? Can Gh15 answer that?
The dtrugs were far better bck then.........no UG shit and correct dosages everytime.
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You are not a board veteran. And you took it up the ass. Hope this helps.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I've been on for yrs and I neeed someone who I can converse with who knows what they're sayin, HAS DONE WHAT THEY"RE SAAYIN, and has taken it to the highest level
now, that being said, I got my gh and I did what he said when it came to protein - switchd from muscle milk to up your m.ass - siht is great
so, your sir, who started this thread, take it up your m.ass
(http://www.musclesupplementreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/mhp-up-your-mass.jpg)
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maybe...but you would have to be on for years to approach their quality.
My muscle quality and shape are very good....if I was on a pro-level cycle I would look like a pro.
I should post a video to give you all an idea of what I really look like....much better than pics, I don't photograph very well
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My muscle quality and shape are very good....if I was on a pro-level cycle I would look like a pro.
I should post a video to give you all an idea of what I really look like....much better than pics, I don't photograph very well
So you admit to already be doing a descent cycle?
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I've been on for yrs and I neeed someone who I can converse with who knows what they're sayin, HAS DONE WHAT THEY"RE SAAYIN, and has taken it to the highest level
If you've been on for years you don't need to converse with anyone, all you need to be doing is following what you know works based on your experience. Gh15 has nothing to offer except the knowledge that long term drug usage is a pre requisite for having the muscles of a bodybuilder. Outside of that, he can't tell you anything, you have to experiment on your own.
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So you admit to already be doing a descent cycle?
No.. where did I say That?
I'm natural...I have to say I guess I do have really good genetics even though growing up I never thought I was anything special....now I'm finding out anybody who looks like anything halfway decent is on something
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No.. where did I say That?
I'm natural...I have to say I guess I do have really good genetics even though growing up I never thought I was anything special....now I'm finding out anybody who looks like anything halfway decent is on something
yes, anyone who looks half way decent is on something. With an exception for very lean individuals who are mostly illusion and fat guys who are the same. So you, being truly big and not just illusion... Must be the only exception. Is that right? ;D
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No.. where did I say That?
I'm natural...I have to say I guess I do have really good genetics even though growing up I never thought I was anything special....now I'm finding out anybody who looks like anything halfway decent is on something
Dude you can claim it all you want, no one's buying it. It's not even debatable. Stop with your bullshit dude. I'm not the only one who thinks it, pretty much everyone here is in agreement, that your completely full of shit.
Your 46 time you stop fluffing your ego, on a board with a bunch of folk half your age.
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My muscle quality and shape are very good....if I was on a pro-level cycle I would look like a pro.
I should post a video to give you all an idea of what I really look like....much better than pics, I don't photograph very well
ok well I can't argue about how you look IRL, but I'm glad you understand that from the pics you don't have pro type muscles, no doubt you look very thick though. Do you understand how pros look in person? It is inhuman. I had no idea, but I live in NYC and I have bumped into Victor Martinez a couple times on the street. Pictures do not tell the whole story, these guys really are mutants.
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ok well I can't argue about how you look IRL, but I'm glad you understand that from the pics you don't have pro type muscles, no doubt you look very thick though. Do you understand how pros look in person? It is inhuman. I had no idea, but I live in NYC and I have bumped into Victor Martinez a couple times on the street. Pictures do not tell the whole story, these guys really are mutants.
I have met many pros in real life...including Dorian and Ronnie both in their prime.
Johhny Moya used to work out at the same Powerhouse as me and used to tell me all the time that he could hook me up and I would be a freak.
Of course I don't look like them.. I don't take what they do.
If I did...
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Of course I don't look like them.. I don't take what they do.
If I did...
Just admit to it, your like a fucking women or something, you allude to it constantly admit that your planning to take hrt, and yet you still act like your just a natty beast, what is your obsession with this trivial shit.
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If you've been on for years you don't need to converse with anyone, all you need to be doing is following what you know works based on your experience. Gh15 has nothing to offer except the knowledge that long term drug usage is a pre requisite for having the muscles of a bodybuilder. Outside of that, he can't tell you anything, you have to experiment on your own.
tru
but its just Im up here in the asshole of North carolina and not alotta peps I even talk to at the rec centr let alone even talk to in person about proper cycles, crazy bb'er siht
its just alotta people who think a bottle of test holds the key to gettn epically massive and think growth hormone means ungodly hugeness and cancer growth
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Just admit to it, your like a fucking women or something, you allude to it constantly admit that your planning to take hrt, and yet you still act like your just a natty beast, what is your obsession with this trivial shit.
What is YOUR obsession with it...you microscopic cum-flake ?
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What is YOUR obsession with it...you microscopic cum-flake ?
By "it" he means the cock you admitted to sucking.
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What is YOUR obsession with it...you microscopic cum-flake ?
Your a 46 year, trying to bluff natty status, it's called get big, your gonna get asked these questions. Your talking to the guy with almost no shame, your avoidance techniques are gonna work on me. Just own up to it alreay, wiggs/all the major poster have alluded to it more than once, why is this so hard for you to accept?
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What do you think your BF is Doink?
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Your a 46 year, trying to bluff natty status, it's called get big, your gonna get asked these questions. Your talking to the guy with almost no shame, your avoidance techniques are gonna work on me. Just own up to it alreay, wiggs/all the major poster have alluded to it more than once, why is this so hard for you to accept?
Oh no. ....."Lundgrenisgod" is playing hardball with me....hahahahahaha....go stick a carrot up your ass, gimmick
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Oh no. ....."Lundgrenisgod" is playing hardball with me....hahahahahaha....go stick a carrot up your ass, gimmick
Lol you do know your better off insulting a toaster, I got no shame as was said.
Even Wiggs wants to know your bf, as I said it's not just me who thinks it, pretty much everyone around, assumes that you juice, however your way too slippery to ever admit to the truth, you just play deflection games like it's your full time job.
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What do you think your BF is Doink?
I know what it is ......15.4 %
And that's measured BF not the make believe 10- 12% that everyone assumes they are
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I know what it is ......15.4 %
And that's measured BF not the make believe 12% that everyone assumes they are
Height and weight?
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Height and weight?
4'9" and 190
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Height and weight?
5'11" 254 this AM
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5'11" 254 this AM
So you'd be 210 pounds if you got to zero BF, Apparently you either suck at math or your the only natter bigger than a peak AHrnold.
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So you'd be 210 pounds if you got to zero BF, Apparently you either suck at math or your the only natter bigger than a peak AHrnold.
Someone has to be. ...why not me?
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Someone has to be. ...why not me?
Solid reasoning.
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Why is it, back in the day I could shoot 300 mg of Primo and 200 mg of test a week, and pop a few winstrol tabs a day..and looked 1000 times better than most of the guys on here that claim they use grams a week of gear, GH, and insulin? Can Gh15 answer that?
thats what i want to know too....even your regime wouldve been a dream for a broke student like i was...even on half of that the gains were consistent and solid..combined with a base of balls to the wall training and rest.
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Why is it, back in the day I could shoot 300 mg of Primo and 200 mg of test a week, and pop a few winstrol tabs a day..and looked 1000 times better than most of the guys on here that claim they use grams a week of gear, GH, and insulin? Can Gh15 answer that?
Those are female doses ??? primo is shit under 600mgs and isnt cost effective , 200mgs may give you gains but 500mgs is the starting dose for BB purposes , stana is shit visualy unless you are at 10 % and under but is decent for power at higher bf % . if you are making a claim that you are better than most of the guys on here you need to back it with pics with proof that its you.
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Gota love the f.a.g.g.o.t.s who registered here one or two years ago and call themselves board veterans. The temerity of this Tbombz moron, who has admitted to having anal intercourse with a man, and even worse having anal intercourse with a man taking the passive role, to consider himself a board veteran is astounding. Hey moron, the only board veterans are the ones who are here since the old board(2005 and before). People such as myself, 240, Mars, Earl, ND, MindSpin, GoatBoy, etc....Most Getbiggers: NOOBS.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Gota love the f.a.g.g.o.t.s who registered here one or two years ago and call themselves board veterans. The temerity of this Tbombz moron, who has admitted to having anal intercourse with a man, and even worse having anal intercourse with a man taking the passive role, to consider himself a board veteran is astounding. Hey moron, the only board veterans are the ones who are here since the old board(2005 and before). People such as myself, 240, Mars, Earl, ND, MindSpin, GoatBoy, etc....Most Getbiggers: NOOBS.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Meltdown ;D
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Meltdown ;D
Surprise! Surprise! You're a board noob. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Surprise! Surprise! You're a board noob. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Second account honey :-* The only vet I even consider in your list is Mindspin as this is in regards to AAS, the rest of you just old timers :D
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Someone post the scooter picture and end this thread.
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I don't even read gh15's posts. Too long and boring.
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Gota love the f.a.g.g.o.t.s who registered here one or two years ago and call themselves board veterans. The temerity of this Tbombz moron, who has admitted to having anal intercourse with a man, and even worse having anal intercourse with a man taking the passive role, to consider himself a board veteran is astounding. Hey moron, the only board veterans are the ones who are here since the old board(2005 and before). People such as myself, 240, Mars, Earl, ND, MindSpin, GoatBoy, etc....Most Getbiggers: NOOBS.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I don't even read gh15's posts. Too long and boring.
He's been saying the same shit since 2006, honestly if I were him I'd just start making shit up.
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Now if there were some way you could prove you didn't take a cock in the azz
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He's been saying the same shit since 2006, honestly if I were him I'd just start making shit up.
Unless it is someone I like or enjoy their posts I rarely read posts longer than 5-6 lines.
yea lol he should start having some fun now.
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Unless it is someone I like or enjoy their posts I rarely read posts longer than 5-6 lines.
yea lol he should start having some fun now.
I hear ya. Some mofos tpye long ass rants. I never read that shit.
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Unless it is someone I like or enjoy their posts I rarely read posts longer than 5-6 lines.
yea lol he should start having some fun now.
Lol I'm dyslexic and I read everything lolz, probally why I troll so much but whatever.
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I farted three times reading this thread....smiled twice, laughed once.
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Unless it is someone I like or enjoy their posts I rarely read posts longer than 5-6 lines.
yea lol he should start having some fun now.
i am having fun,,i just obligated on saying the truth amd the truth is boring btu atleast better than liar priest,,notice i have issue with priest lately because he is a fuckin scambag liar,, so i will talk about him a lot more in the future,,
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Why is it, back in the day I could shoot 300 mg of Primo and 200 mg of test a week, and pop a few winstrol tabs a day..and looked 1000 times better than most of the guys on here that claim they use grams a week of gear, GH, and insulin? Can Gh15 answer that?
read the rspond of mr grant to your post,,you dont grow out of 300mg primo no matter how legit it is lol,, back in the day you could use less in general because everything was legit and dosed tip top,,now not so much unless you know your bodybuilding...
gh15 approved
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read the rspond of mr grant to your post,,you dont grow out of 300mg primo no matter how legit it is lol,, back in the day you could use less in general because everything was legit and dosed tip top,,now not so much unless you know your bodybuilding...
gh15 approved
Is groink natty 254 5 11 measured at 15 percent bodyfat?
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Is groink natty 254 5 11 measured at 15 percent bodyfat?
Is it impossible to be big and lean naturally?
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I believe his height and weight. his bf % is a fair bit higher. His good muscle shape makes him look leaner.
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Groink is big, strong, lean and cocky.......deal with it haters.
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I aint a Groink hater by any stretch of the imagination.
It is never the smallest or biggest guys who hate on this site. Its always the average inbetween guys I find.
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I aint a Groink hater by any stretch of the imagination.
It is never the smallest or biggest guys who hate on this site. Its always the average inbetween guys I find.
this
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Is groink natty 254 5 11 measured at 15 percent bodyfat?
no one is 5'11 250 anything mesuring true sub 12%, in his case he is 15 percent which i do not think ,,he is less,, he is around true 13% ,,even if he is 15% looking like due to water confused as fat,, he would be 225-230 at 5'11 at 10% ,,those are not natural numbers,,
natural stop at 180-190 10% ,,some naturals can play with prohormone and creatine and get up to 195-198 but it will look 12% due to water retention
in any case,,254 5'11 at 13% which is where i put him bodyfat is not natural,,maybe clean on and off products but not natural
usually the fellas that are 5'10 or so 250 at 10-13% are on gh at low doses especially at the age mentioned and ofcourse mid level cycles usually continuous cycles,,the skin takes specific look when you are on hormones it is thicker look that has nothing to do with bodyfat,,you can be like jason 4% and thick skin and not show a vein has to do with genetic and hormone usage combo
you have to distinuish between body fat and water weight ,,people confuse it very easily ,,even experienced ones,,water will ALWAYS JIGGLE,,FAT WILL LOOK DEAD IT WILL BE IN FOLD IT WONT DO THE JIGGLE LIKE ARNOLD SAID,,YOU KNOW WHEN YOU THROW STONE ON WATER AND TRY TO JUMP IT ON THE WATER,,AND THEN IT CREATES THE WATER REACTION? THIIS IS HOW WATER ON PHYSIQE WILL LOOK WHEN TOUCH THEM WITH FINGER ,,IT WILL BOUNCE BACK AT YOU ,,FAT WILL JUST BE IN FOLDS AND WOTN MOVE MUCH ,,OFCOURE MOST PEOPLE SUFFFER FROM MIX OF BOTH ,,BUT YOU FELLAS NEED TO DISTINUISH BETWEEN FAT AND WATER AND GROIK HOLD SOME WATER THAT IS CONFUSED WITH FAT ,,THE MACHINES CANT SEE IT THEY WILL JUST SAY WHATEVER ,,BTU IM TELLIN YOU HE IS LESS THAN 15%
sometimes you can be 9-10 % and look like you are 13 due to the use of hgh and the water retention it causes,,etc etc,,you just need to know how to tell,,mainly water doesnt kill the look it enhance ,,water from gh enhance your size make you look huge and not fat,,fat and water on the other hand from use of suspension will look disgusting and make you look bloofy and change your v taper
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I believe his height and weight. his bf % is a fair bit higher. His good muscle shape makes him look leaner.
wrong!,,he is leaner,,he is not 15% no matter how big his gut is,,he is at 13%
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wrong!,,he is leaner,,he is not 15% no matter how big his gut is,,he is at 13%
gh15 approved
Pics are deceiving.
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wrong!,,he is leaner,,he is not 15% no matter how big his gut is,,he is at 13%
gh15 approved
my gut isn't big at all...i was almost 270 in that "fat' pic...i'm about 20 lbs lighter now, visible abs and veins
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I agree with tbombz.
I also truly believe gh15 is an ifbb pro and i enjoy reading his posts....its just all these fucking obese, skinnyfat...any kind of fucking clown on this board (and getbig has plenty of them) overcomplicationg things....
"uncover gh15".. jesus fucking christ if you want to "uncover" someone go back to school or whatever and become a cop or α criminologist or something like that.
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the way groink looks, its reasonable to suspect he isn't natural
but he isn't pulling a kyoshi moody
so its very possible he's just gifted
let it go
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I agree with tbombz.
I also truly believe gh15 is an ifbb pro and i enjoy reading his posts....its just all these fucking obese, skinnyfat...any kind of fucking clown on this board (and getbig has plenty of them) overcomplicationg things....
"uncover gh15".. jesus fucking christ if you want to "uncover" someone go back to school or whatever and become a cop or α criminologist or something like that.
x 2. he's a fcukin goldmine...
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the way groink looks, its reasonable to suspect he isn't natural
but he isn't pulling a kyoshi moody
so its very possible he's just gifted
let it go
its hard to tell without clear pics.
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my gut isn't big at all...i was almost 270 in that "fat' pic...i'm about 20 lbs lighter now, visible abs and veins
Not hating man was just basing it on that pic you were 270.
Strong and large mofo!
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I dion`t see why people here say Groink`s not natural.....probably great genetics,years of training,and a good training/work ethic.
Not every natty has to be a ripped 150 pounder,some guys are just big to start with,which is probably the case with Groink.
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tru
but its just Im up here in the asshole of North carolina and not alotta peps I even talk to at the rec centr let alone even talk to in person about proper cycles, crazy bb'er siht
its just alotta people who think a bottle of test holds the key to gettn epically massive and think growth hormone means ungodly hugeness and cancer growth
Brother if you think where you live is the asshole, I'll trade with you any day of the week.... Be glad nobody knows anything, you can walk around the unchallenged alpha..... ;D
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natural stop at 180-190 10% ,,some naturals can play with prohormone and creatine and get up to 195-198 but it will look 12% due to water retentiongh15 approved
Bullshit. Seriously, where do you come up with this shit?
I hit 180lbs at only 5'8", nevermind 5'11", with single digit bf%, and I've never taken so much as a prohormone in my life.
It's no wonder that most of the kids here don't know what a true natural physique is as they haven't put in the 10-20-30 years required to build one and resort to taking the junkie route after a few years of training, mainly thanks to the advice of people like yourself advocating drug use.
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my take on GH15.
he is who he says he is, or if he's not a pro, he's a trainer. your not entirely correct taylor in saying that anyone can find the stuff he says but reading BB boards. he has said things in the past that i have never read anywhere that had to do with GH and pulse that the average board rat would never know, only someone who has used and has a lot of experience with GH would know.
i used to bust this guys balls like mad- i used to think him a gimmick who was incredibly irresponsible. then i started to really read his posts and he's not a gimmick, he's the real deal or as close as you can get and he's just telling the truth.
the only thing i can take exception to is that i find his posts on the efficacy of GH itself and the response you get from it exaggerated. i think with the proper training and genetics using the compounds he advises one could achieve a 'competitive' national level calibre body in say 3-5 years or so, not the 6 months to a year GH is saying. lol i think you could put on some good size in a year and walk on some hillbilly stage and place. the Nationals are another level, at least where LHW/HW/ SHW are concerned.
i think a lot of what does is exaggerate like this to see how far people will go in believing him. he likes to come here and have fun just like the rest of us. this is his way of doing it. he tells the truth, but exaggerates too to fool people and get a laugh. i get that.
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my take on GH15.
he is who he says he is, or if he's not a pro, he's a trainer. your not entirely correct taylor in saying that anyone can find the stuff he says but reading BB boards. he has said things in the past that i have never read anywhere that had to do with GH and pulse that the average board rat would never know, only someone who has used and has a lot of experience with GH would know.
i used to bust this guys balls like mad- i used to think him a gimmick who was incredibly irresponsible. then i started to really read his posts and he's not a gimmick, he's the real deal or as close as you can get and he's just telling the truth.
the only thing i can take exception to is that i find his posts on the efficacy of GH itself and the response you get from it exaggerated. i think with the proper training and genetics using the compounds he advises one could achieve an national level calibre body in say 3-5 years or so, not the 6 months to a year GH is saying. lol
i think a lot of what does is exaggerate like this to see how far people will go in believing him. he likes to come here and have fun just like the rest of us. this is his way of doing it. he tells the truth, but exaggerates too to fool people and get a laugh. i get that.
dont forget the 30+ lbs of lbm in a matter of weeks when using thai pinkies. :D ;D
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But what would Evan Scentofpanties think?
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I dion`t see why people here say Groink`s not natural.....probably great genetics,years of training,and a good training/work ethic.
Not every natty has to be a ripped 150 pounder,some guys are just big to start with,which is probably the case with Groink.
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Bullshit. Seriously, where do you come up with this shit?
I hit 180lbs at only 5'8", nevermind 5'11", with single digit bf%, and I've never taken so much as a prohormone in my life.
It's no wonder that most of the kids here don't know what a true natural physique is as they haven't put in the 10-20-30 years required to build one and resort to taking the junkie route after a few years of training, mainly thanks to the advice of people like yourself advocating drug use.
Exactly...Also, most Pro bodybuilders have genetics that would allow them to be bigger than Gh15's natural weight limits..which leads me to believe he isn't a pro. If you've read all his posts over the years..you'll see he has an almost identical philosophy to a certain Romanian poster on here...who due to his poor genetics and weak drug response..still only looks mediocre after 100mg a day d-bol cycles. Since he can't accept the fact that anyone on the planet has better genetics and drug response than himself, he comes up with this "True naturals at 5'9 can only weigh 150 ripped.. nonsense"...although this guy has no trouble believeing that aliens and Reptile/lizard men are pulling the strings here on earth. Hilarious.
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Bullshit. Seriously, where do you come up with this shit?
I hit 180lbs at only 5'8", nevermind 5'11", with single digit bf%, and I've never taken so much as a prohormone in my life.
It's no wonder that most of the kids here don't know what a true natural physique is as they haven't put in the 10-20-30 years required to build one and resort to taking the junkie route after a few years of training, mainly thanks to the advice of people like yourself advocating drug use.
again you hit 180 which IS natural number lol with the use of pro hormone which is STEROID!!,,im tired of talking about superdrol and turinabol in form of halodrol and all those steroids,,and they should have taken you to 190-195 but guess what friend,,,you are not 5;10 so where did they take you ??? they took you to 180 :) all together now friends,,7lb for every inch of height!
get the pic? good,,in any way you can get 180 natural at 9-10% ,,some lucky ones get even down to 8% at 180lb ,,but thats where it ends ofcoure,,at 5'8 you should deduct about 10-15 lb so the natural number will be 165-170 at high singles,,BUT! its very easy to confuse 10-11% and 9 percent so you probably if natursal was 180 at 10-11% which is capable naturally ,,the thing is if you used pro hormone of th kind whish ic pure drug you shoudl have been 10 lb bigger,,
everything i say is written in stone ,,there is no ifs or buts ,,i HAVE WALKED THE WALK THATS WHY I NOW TALK THE TALK ,,even if its not nice to hear,,even if the bodybuilder get mad and look at himself with little less confidence than the little confidence he had before,,the truth shall always ALWAYS! set you free,,even if its said to a bunch of liars,,
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Exactly...Also, most Pro bodybuilders have genetics that would allow them to be bigger than Gh15's natural weight limits..which leads me to believe he isn't a pro. If you've read all his posts over the years..you'll see he has an almost identical philosophy to a certain Romanian poster on here...who due to his poor genetics and weak drug response..still only looks mediocre after 100mg a day d-bol cycles. Since he can't accept the fact that anyone on the planet has better genetics and drug response than himself, he comes up with this "True naturals at 5'9 can only weigh 150 ripped.. nonsense"...although this guy has no trouble believeing that aliens and Reptile/lizard men are pulling the strings here on earth. Hilarious.
no 5'9 can not be 150 ripped naturally on stage it can be 155-165lb ripped and shredded at 6% NATURALLY on stage,,big huge difference between 150 and 160 my friend,,have you ever seen what 5lb of lean muscle look like on bodybuilder? night and day friend,,night and day especially if its 10..2 diferent people if same bf
now in regarding sevaster,,never been him and never will be ,,but! atleast he is honest,,he is pretty much on the money inregard the use,,
gh15 approved
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no 5'9 can not be 150 ripped naturally on stage it can be 155-165lb ripped and shredded at 6% NATURALLY on stage,,big huge difference between 150 and 160 my friend,,have you ever seen what 5lb of lean muscle look like on bodybuilder? night and day friend,,night and day especially if its 10..2 diferent people if same bf
now in regarding sevaster,,never been him and never will be ,,but! atleast he is honest,,he is pretty much on the money inregard the use,,
gh15 approved
Yep 5'8" at 165 shredded looks HUUUGE, especially if it is on a guy with a narrow waist and small joints. Actually it might not look so big under stage lights and everything, but I guarantee if you saw this guy in you gym you would think he was 180 and juicing.
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again you hit 180 which IS natural number lol with the use of pro hormone which is STEROID!!,
gh15 approved
You misread my post dude. I said I've never taken a pro hormone. Mostly because I've never had much faith in supplements.
I take the odd scoop of protein powder for flavour and to add some protein to my diet as I'm mostly vegetarian. I've got no reason to lie , nor do do I think many of the others here are lying as I know what's possible for a natural bb'er, at least as far as my own progress is concerned and I'm definitely not the most genetically gifted. Good genetics for building lean muscle yes, but not great.
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Yep 5'8" at 165 shredded looks HUUUGE, especially if it is on a guy with a narrow waist and small joints. Actually it might not look so big under stage lights and everything, but I guarantee if you saw this guy in you gym you would think he was 180 and juicing.
Yep, right on the money.
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You misread my post dude. I said I've never taken a pro hormone. Mostly because I've never had much faith in supplements.
I take the odd scoop of protein powder for flavour and to add some protein to my diet as I'm mostly vegetarian. I've got no reason to lie , nor do do I think many of the others here are lying as I know what's possible for a natural bb'er, at least as far as my own progress is concerned and I'm definitely not the most genetically gifted. Good genetics for building lean muscle yes, but not great.
i didnt,,i said natural at the number you gave me is possible ,,180lb 5'9 10 percent is doable naturally even 8-9,,said it before abotu 6000 times on getbig,,read bible
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God,
In my current predicament being at 250 at about 25% bf... and on 800mg test E, 600 mg of Eq, 50mg t-3, my goal is to get to 10%bf...Not to worried about muscle, I' have plenty of that...should I just add 4 i.u. of Riptropin and bump up t-3 till week 12 then add masteron, tren at 300mg each per week for maximum fat loss...
I'm trying to stay away from ephedrine, I don't like the way it makes me feel and I don't like clen because of potential heart problems...
I'm only eating 4 whole meals mostly clean...Ezikiel bread, chicken breast, potato, rice, all kinds of veggies...beef once or twice per month rarely fish...
I'm in no hurry and when I get to 10% I'll NEVER let it get out of control again.
Thank you...please leave my name off.... ;D
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my take on GH15.
the only thing i can take exception to is that i find his posts on the efficacy of GH itself and the response you get from it exaggerated. i think with the proper training and genetics using the compounds he advises one could achieve a 'competitive' national level calibre body in say 3-5 years or so, not the 6 months to a year GH is saying. lol i think you could put on some good size in a year and walk on some hillbilly stage and place. the Nationals are another level, at least where LHW/HW/ SHW are concerned.
Exactly !
I know some quebecers that became national level guys really fast but they are light-weights and middles
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God,
In my current predicament being at 250 at about 25% bf... and on 800mg test E, 600 mg of Eq, 50mg t-3, my goal is to get to 10%bf...Not to worried about muscle, I' have plenty of that...should I just add 4 i.u. of Riptropin and bump up t-3 till week 12 then add masteron, tren at 300mg each per week for maximum fat loss...
I'm trying to stay away from ephedrine, I don't like the way it makes me feel and I don't like clen because of potential heart problems...
Thank you...please leave my name off.... ;D
I think you are too fat yet for you to see anything from the tren and masteron bro.
HGH will definitly help, with some roids to keep the mass but you need to get down to about 215-220 for you to see some good changes from the roids
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I think you are too fat yet for you to see anything from the tren and masteron bro.
HGH will definitly help, with some roids to keep the mass but you need to get down to about 215-220 for you to see some good changes from the roids
Correct..I wasn't going to add the masteron and tren for another 10 weeks...by that time, I'm guessing I'll be around 15-17% bf...adding the masteron and tren with continued use of GH and t-3 will maximize fat loss...Not worried about mutating yet...I want to get to 10%bf first then I'll reassess. Thanks Stav
I've used GH before at 4.i.u (Hygetropin 3 years ago) I was very happy with results...extreme fat loss for me...Like GH15 said when I stopped I lost about 7lbs of water on top of that and saw tunnels in my abs...and had sunken face.
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Correct..I wasn't going to add the masteron and tren for another 10 weeks...by that time, I'm guessing I'll be around 15-17% bf...adding the masteron and tren with continued use of GH and t-3 will maximize fat loss...Not worried about mutating yet...I want to get to 10%bf first then I'll reassess. Thanks Stav
I've used GH before at 4.i.u (Hygetropin 3 years ago) I was very happy with results...extreme fat loss for me...Like GH15 said when I stopped I lost about 7lbs of water on top of that and saw tunnels in my abs...and had sunken face.
How long did you run the Hygetroping on your first run?
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How long did you run the Hygetroping on your first run?
3 months...with 750 mg prop and 400 mg eq...
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anyone who thinks groink is natural needs their eyes examined.
and before everyone called me an obese hater whale blah blah.
no i'm not. i have no qualms stating groink looks very thick in that shitty photo ( digitised to hell for some reason/ a clear pic would be nice).
he also looks very purple with very high blood pressure ala branch warren.
you guys need to get off his nuts, he's claiming natural stats that former mr olympias didn't reach juiced ::)
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Correct..I wasn't going to add the masteron and tren for another 10 weeks...by that time, I'm guessing I'll be around 15-17% bf...adding the masteron and tren with continued use of GH and t-3 will maximize fat loss...Not worried about mutating yet...I want to get to 10%bf first then I'll reassess. Thanks Stav
I've used GH before at 4.i.u (Hygetropin 3 years ago) I was very happy with results...extreme fat loss for me...Like GH15 said when I stopped I lost about 7lbs of water on top of that and saw tunnels in my abs...and had sunken face.
were you dieting during that time wiggs, cardio low carb ? low fat? ?
are you dieting now during your current cycle?
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So, then...You're claiming to have "hit 180lbs at only 5'8", with single digit bf%" as a "mostly vegetarian" without even anything more than "the odd scoop of protein".
the funny thing is that this is MORE muscular than Frank Zane at his Olympia best.
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the funny thing is that this is MORE muscular than Frank Zane at his Olympia best.
As a natural, too. With only "the odd scoop of protein".
He must have a lot of pics. When he comes back, I'm sure he'll post up at least one.
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he's claiming natural stats that former mr olympias didn't reach juiced ::)
Just a slight exaggeration don`t you think Panda?
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were you dieting during that time wiggs, cardio low carb ? low fat? ?
are you dieting now during your current cycle?
Oh yeah...
I'm a big fan of ground turkey...What I did then was 6oz (170gms) of ground turkey...Tacobell at the time was selling their seasoning and I would make about 4-5 lbs at a time (2 kilos) put them in small tupperware containers with white rice and that would account for 4-5 of my meals...I never got tired of it, it just became routine and I didn't have to think about it...
At the time I didn't know about carb cycling or any of that other stuff...I would say I got about 200-225mg or protein and 200mg of carbs...I also took t-3, clen and ECA up to 100mg. for t-3.. not the entire time...The GH def was real my wrist hurt like shit after day 2...I did cardio 4-5 times per week 45 min. I didn't do ECA and clen together it was one or the other.
This time, I'm going with variety, I include all sorts of veggies, different carb sources and chicken vs. turkey..
Because I started working again, I'm going to go back to the turkey in a tupperware with veggies and most of my carbs will be in morning and post workout meals...very little in between...
I'll use gh still deciding on the dose, I'll use t-3...probably not clen and maybe ECA...I have DNP but would not consider using it unless I'm trying to get to 5-7% bf and I have no plans to do that unless it's for a show and as of now I'm not doing a show...
Current cycle is 800 mg test E, 600 mg Eq (blend...400mg test/300mg eq)
50mg t-3 ed
25 mg proviron ed
50 mg arimidex eod.
Only thing that will change is 4 or 6 i.u of Riptropin ed
t-3 will bump up to 100mg
ECA
Cardio 3-5 times per week.30 min..I like cardio, I like to people watch
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the funny thing is that this is MORE muscular than Frank Zane at his Olympia best.
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So, then...You claim to have achieved "180lbs at only 5'8", with single digit bf%" as a "mostly vegetarian" without even anything more than "the odd scoop of protein".
Yep.
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You misread my post dude. I said I've never taken a pro hormone. Mostly because I've never had much faith in supplements.
I take the odd scoop of protein powder for flavour and to add some protein to my diet as I'm mostly vegetarian. I've got no reason to lie , nor do do I think many of the others here are lying as I know what's possible for a natural bb'er, at least as far as my own progress is concerned and I'm definitely not the most genetically gifted. Good genetics for building lean muscle yes, but not great.
lets see your 185 pound ripped at single digits vegetarian pics stud. I'm sure you'll shut gh15 mouth real quick. ::)
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lets see your 185 pound ripped at single digits vegetarian pics stud. I'm sure you'll shut gh15 mouth real quick. ::)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=134563.0
175-180, not 185 in the first pics. Current bodyweight is less.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=134563.0
175-180, not 185 in the first pics. Current bodyweight is less.
Is that you?
No homo, but you look great (no homo) ;D
You look shorter than 5' 8", and I'm guess you're closer to 10%, but I could wrong wrong.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/csharpminor/150640897_330.jpg)
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no 5'9 can not be 150 ripped naturally on stage it can be 155-165lb ripped and shredded at 6% NATURALLY on stage,,big huge difference between 150 and 160 my friend,,have you ever seen what 5lb of lean muscle look like on bodybuilder? night and day friend,,night and day especially if its 10..2 diferent people if same bf
now in regarding sevaster,,never been him and never will be ,,but! atleast he is honest,,he is pretty much on the money inregard the use,,
gh15 approved
Hi Sev!
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Hi Sev!
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my take on GH15.
he is who he says he is, or if he's not a pro, he's a trainer. your not entirely correct taylor in saying that anyone can find the stuff he says but reading BB boards. he has said things in the past that i have never read anywhere that had to do with GH and pulse that the average board rat would never know, only someone who has used and has a lot of experience with GH would know.
i used to bust this guys balls like mad- i used to think him a gimmick who was incredibly irresponsible. then i started to really read his posts and he's not a gimmick, he's the real deal or as close as you can get and he's just telling the truth.
the only thing i can take exception to is that i find his posts on the efficacy of GH itself and the response you get from it exaggerated. i think with the proper training and genetics using the compounds he advises one could achieve a 'competitive' national level calibre body in say 3-5 years or so, not the 6 months to a year GH is saying. lol i think you could put on some good size in a year and walk on some hillbilly stage and place. the Nationals are another level, at least where LHW/HW/ SHW are concerned.
i think a lot of what does is exaggerate like this to see how far people will go in believing him. he likes to come here and have fun just like the rest of us. this is his way of doing it. he tells the truth, but exaggerates too to fool people and get a laugh. i get that.
I take offense to that. The "hillbilly stage" you speak of here in Arkansas is extremely competitive! I have seen people at shows in New York and California that look like total garbage and qualifying for nationals because they got top 3 in their class. Here in Arkansas you have to be TOP TWO IN THE WHOLE SHOW. The competitors here look better then most do at most shows.
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I take offense to that. The "hillbilly stage" you speak of here in Arkansas is extremely competitive! I have seen people at shows in New York and California that look like total garbage and qualifying for nationals because they got top 3 in their class. Here in Arkansas you have to be TOP TWO IN THE WHOLE SHOW. The competitors here look better then most do at most shows.
dude your pics are fucking inspiring 8)
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dude your pics are fucking inspiring 8)
To be honest man im getting burned out. This winter has been harder then most. I feel like i have one more year left in me. For me to compete this year at the State show and to do North Americans i am going to have to raise approximately 5000 dollars for travel, entry fees, room, etc... You put soo much into this sport and nothing but negativity comes out of it. It is hard to keep pushing. I might flip my attitude around spring... it seems to always happen but every winter gets harder and harder.
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I take offense to that. The "hillbilly stage" you speak of here in Arkansas is extremely competitive! I have seen people at shows in New York and California that look like total garbage and qualifying for nationals because they got top 3 in their class. Here in Arkansas you have to be TOP TWO IN THE WHOLE SHOW. The competitors here look better then most do at most shows.
what the fuck are you talking about?
where in my post did i mention you, or arkansas?
listen dude, if your looking for an excuse just to post your pics then just do so, but dont do it off my back cause my post had nothing to do with you whatsoever.
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what the fuck are you talking about?
where in my post did i mention you, or arkansas?
listen dude, if your looking for an excuse just to post your pics then just do so, but dont do it off my back cause my post had nothing to do with you whatsoever.
Reread your post carefully ::)
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Reread your post carefully ::)
maybe you should re read my post carefully, sparky.
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maybe you should re read my post carefully, sparky.
my take on GH15.
he is who he says he is, or if he's not a pro, he's a trainer. your not entirely correct taylor in saying that anyone can find the stuff he says but reading BB boards. he has said things in the past that i have never read anywhere that had to do with GH and pulse that the average board rat would never know, only someone who has used and has a lot of experience with GH would know.
i used to bust this guys balls like mad- i used to think him a gimmick who was incredibly irresponsible. then i started to really read his posts and he's not a gimmick, he's the real deal or as close as you can get and he's just telling the truth.
the only thing i can take exception to is that i find his posts on the efficacy of GH itself and the response you get from it exaggerated. i think with the proper training and genetics using the compounds he advises one could achieve a 'competitive' national level calibre body in say 3-5 years or so, not the 6 months to a year GH is saying. lol i think you could put on some good size in a year and walk on some hillbilly stage and place. the Nationals are another level, at least where LHW/HW/ SHW are concerned.
i think a lot of what does is exaggerate like this to see how far people will go in believing him. he likes to come here and have fun just like the rest of us. this is his way of doing it. he tells the truth, but exaggerates too to fool people and get a laugh. i get that.
Point i was making is "hillbilly stages" are just as difficult if not more so then ones that are in the city or anywhere else.
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To be honest man im getting burned out. This winter has been harder then most. I feel like i have one more year left in me. For me to compete this year at the State show and to do North Americans i am going to have to raise approximately 5000 dollars for travel, entry fees, room, etc... You put soo much into this sport and nothing but negativity comes out of it. It is hard to keep pushing. I might flip my attitude around spring... it seems to always happen but every winter gets harder and harder.
Burned out on competing or burned out on bodybuilding in general? You don't gotta keep competing, or compete at all. I know you said in the past you thought competing was essential to reaching your full potential but it really doesn't. If you think cyclical dieting/ bulking on a yearly basis helps you to progress then fine, there might be some truth to the idea that post contest rebound results in more gains than would have otherwise, but that doesn't require you to actually compete.
Don't give up on bodybuilding man.. U already came so far
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Burned out on competing or burned out on bodybuilding in general? You don't gotta keep competing, or compete at all. I know you said in the past you thought competing was essential to reaching your full potential but it really doesn't. If you think cyclical dieting/ bulking on a yearly basis helps you to progress then fine, there might be some truth to the idea that post contest rebound results in more gains than would have otherwise, but that doesn't require you to actually compete.
Don't give up on bodybuilding man.. U already came so far
Bodybuilding in general. That doesn't mean i would quit working out. If i had been smart and invested all the money i did into bodybuild i would AT LEAST be able to pay half of grad school in full... something i would like to do eventually. Would i be any happier? Probably not. I am so anal about my money that i'd probably have saved up a good bit of it. Right now im just kind of floating around and have no idea what to do with my life. There are also alot
of obvious risks involved with bodybuilding. Sadly i feel like i HAVE to do this. I feel like i bought a horrible book and i have to finish it before i can move on. I have little goals set up for myself that must be accomplished. I just never wanted to be on my death bed and regret not doing something. Plus some part of me thinks it would be comical to be a frail old man and have a picture of yourself looking like a freak.
I don't know. I think even if the money was there i would eventually get tired of it but obviously competing with someone covering all your essential fees would be nice. Eventually i want to move on to something else with just as much passion and be successful at it.
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Just don't stop lifting eating and juicing. Move on to other things in life. It won't effect your bodybuilding.
Bodybuilding in general. That doesn't mean i would quit working out. If i had been smart and invested all the money i did into bodybuild i would AT LEAST be able to pay half of grad school in full... something i would like to do eventually. Would i be any happier? Probably not. I am so anal about my money that i'd probably have saved up a good bit of it. Right now im just kind of floating around and have no idea what to do with my life. There are also alot
of obvious risks involved with bodybuilding. Sadly i feel like i HAVE to do this. I feel like i bought a horrible book and i have to finish it before i can move on. I have little goals set up for myself that must be accomplished. I just never wanted to be on my death bed and regret not doing something. Plus some part of me thinks it would be comical to be a frail old man and have a picture of yourself looking like a freak.
I don't know. I think even if the money was there i would eventually get tired of it but obviously competing with someone covering all your essential fees would be nice. Eventually i want to move on to something else with just as much passion and be successful at it.
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Bodybuilding in general. That doesn't mean i would quit working out. If i had been smart and invested all the money i did into bodybuild i would AT LEAST be able to pay half of grad school in full... something i would like to do eventually. Would i be any happier? Probably not. I am so anal about my money that i'd probably have saved up a good bit of it. Right now im just kind of floating around and have no idea what to do with my life. There are also alot
of obvious risks involved with bodybuilding. Sadly i feel like i HAVE to do this. I feel like i bought a horrible book and i have to finish it before i can move on. I have little goals set up for myself that must be accomplished. I just never wanted to be on my death bed and regret not doing something. Plus some part of me thinks it would be comical to be a frail old man and have a picture of yourself looking like a freak.
Welcome to life. You're still in that 'my life must mean something' stage. That's just your cognition over-riding your biology. It will get better. ;D
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Bodybuilding in general. That doesn't mean i would quit working out. If i had been smart and invested all the money i did into bodybuild i would AT LEAST be able to pay half of grad school in full... something i would like to do eventually. Would i be any happier? Probably not. I am so anal about my money that i'd probably have saved up a good bit of it. Right now im just kind of floating around and have no idea what to do with my life. There are also alot
of obvious risks involved with bodybuilding. Sadly i feel like i HAVE to do this. I feel like i bought a horrible book and i have to finish it before i can move on. I have little goals set up for myself that must be accomplished. I just never wanted to be on my death bed and regret not doing something. Plus some part of me thinks it would be comical to be a frail old man and have a picture of yourself looking like a freak.
I don't know. I think even if the money was there i would eventually get tired of it but obviously competing with someone covering all your essential fees would be nice. Eventually i want to move on to something else with just as much passion and be successful at it.
speaking of books, this one almost destroyed my life. When I read it I was too young and stupid to understand it was a cautionary tale. :-\
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51a7yoQs2HL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg)
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Bodybuilding in general. That doesn't mean i would quit working out. If i had been smart and invested all the money i did into bodybuild i would AT LEAST be able to pay half of grad school in full... something i would like to do eventually. Would i be any happier? Probably not. I am so anal about my money that i'd probably have saved up a good bit of it. Right now im just kind of floating around and have no idea what to do with my life. There are also alot
of obvious risks involved with bodybuilding. Sadly i feel like i HAVE to do this. I feel like i bought a horrible book and i have to finish it before i can move on. I have little goals set up for myself that must be accomplished. I just never wanted to be on my death bed and regret not doing something. Plus some part of me thinks it would be comical to be a frail old man and have a picture of yourself looking like a freak.
I don't know. I think even if the money was there i would eventually get tired of it but obviously competing with someone covering all your essential fees would be nice. Eventually i want to move on to something else with just as much passion and be successful at it.
never ever stop bodybuildign,,because when you try to come back it will be very hard,,the process of losing lean muscle mass espeically at your level is very hard to attain again ,,you always think you can get it back fast,,but in reality it takes 6-12 good months with all products at hand ,,ALL,,
you got good potential and youg,,dont quit,,but if you want to get anywhere in bodybuilding it wil have to be up the dose as we say it ,,and lots of gh,,you can get quite far then again youl neveer big money out of bodybuilding we all do it for passion ,,
now if you good source....thats another story ,,lots and lots of money,,but bodybuilding persay doesnt giveb you a lot of money,,and its hard unless you got supportive surrounding and enough money to put on everythign needed from drugs to food because you need to eat A LOT on hgh to pass the intial smily face 230-240 10%,,to get up to the 250 260 270 280 at singles oh you eat your momy and daddy and lots of hgh
gh15 approved
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no 5'9 can not be 150 ripped naturally on stage it can be 155-165lb ripped and shredded at 6% NATURALLY on stage,,big huge difference between 150 and 160 my friend,,have you ever seen what 5lb of lean muscle look like on bodybuilder? night and day friend,,night and day especially if its 10..2 diferent people if same bf
now in regarding sevaster,,never been him and never will be ,,but! atleast he is honest,,he is pretty much on the money inregard the use,,
gh15 approved
I'm it , Lifetime natural 5'9'' 175lbs (10% bf) 154 to 160lbs shredded (4-5-6 % BF)
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speaking of books, this one almost destroyed my life. When I read it I was too young and stupid to understand it was a cautionary tale. :-\
It isn't. Wearing diapers for squat day is just one ridiculous extreme, if you want it to be. Most people lift because they enjoy it, and want to get fit. They feel no need to be lurid about it. Oh brother.
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speaking of books, this one almost destroyed my life. When I read it I was too young and stupid to understand it was a cautionary tale. :-\
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51a7yoQs2HL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg)
That is in my shelf among my political, economic, and psychology tombs of knowledge :D. He however got the California experience which i imagine is 10 fold what i see ahahah... maybe even 100 fold.
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Welcome to life. You're still in that 'my life must mean something' stage. That's just your cognition over-riding your biology. It will get better. ;D
and what exactly are you implying? that because in the end we all die, that we shouldnt have fun and make what conquests we desire to during our stay in this physicality? life may be inconsequential in terms of its effect upon our eternity that awaits, but it is certainly not inconsequential to the person who has lived it.
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and what exactly are you implying? that because in the end we all die, that we shouldnt have fun and make what conquests we desire to during our stay in this physicality? life may be inconsequential in terms of its effect upon our eternity that awaits, but it is certainly not inconsequential to the person who has lived it.
Ha! Didn't imply anything- I was quite explicit.
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Ha! Didn't imply anything- I was quite explicit.
well you were addressing his sentiment about having goals and not wanting to regret having not accomplished something.
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Is that you?
No homo, but you look great (no homo) ;D
You look shorter than 5' 8", and I'm guess you're closer to 10%, but I could wrong wrong.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/csharpminor/150640897_330.jpg)
Yeah, thanks man, that's me 5 years ago. My current pic is at the end in the same thread.
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Just don't stop lifting eating and juicing. Move on to other things in life. It won't effect your bodybuilding.
Yes Leafy....listen to Tbombz...keep juicing forever.... see the enormous benefits to shutting down your pituitary function and never being able to produce normal levels of testosterone again. Lower your kidney function, recede your hairline prematurely...throw your hdl and ldl levels off to the point your arteries clog with hideous plaque and your heart explodes at a young age. Forget educating yourself and having a lucrative career... you can become a bi-sexual like Tbombz and Schmoe yourself out for money...You might get HIV or die a mysterious death like the guys in Bay's gay prostitute thread..but Hey..you'll have big steroid swollen muscles...won't that be all worth it? ::)
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Yes Leafy....listen to Tbombz...keep juicing forever.... see the enormous benefits to shutting down your pituitary function and never being able to produce normal levels of testosterone again. Lower your kidney function, recede your hairline prematurely...throw your hdl and ldl levels off to the point your arteries clog with hideous plaque and your heart explodes at a young age. Forget educating yourself and having a lucrative career... you can become a bi-sexual like Tbombz and Schmoe yourself out for money...You might get HIV or die a mysterious death like the guys in Bay's gay prostitute thread..but Hey..you'll have big steroid swollen muscles...won't that be all worth it? ::)
oh brother.. ::) lord of the hypochondriacts... you sound like the kind of guy who screams and jumps on top of a nearby counter when you see a bug crawling on the kitchen floor.. nothing wrong with a few cc's of test every week..
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oh brother.. ::) lord of the hypochondriacts... you sound like the kind of guy who screams and jumps on top of a nearby counter when you see a bug crawling on the kitchen floor.. nothing wrong with a few cc's of test every week..
damn straight... more like lord of the boys
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Just a slight exaggeration don`t you think Panda?
no - not in the slightest.
he claiming more muscle than most 60-70's bodybuilders, and half the 80's and 90's guys too. ::)
unless you mean groink is exaggerating ?
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Oh yeah...
I'm a big fan of ground turkey...What I did then was 6oz (170gms) of ground turkey...Tacobell at the time was selling their seasoning and I would make about 4-5 lbs at a time (2 kilos) put them in small tupperware containers with white rice and that would account for 4-5 of my meals...I never got tired of it, it just became routine and I didn't have to think about it...
At the time I didn't know about carb cycling or any of that other stuff...I would say I got about 200-225mg or protein and 200mg of carbs...I also took t-3, clen and ECA up to 100mg. for t-3.. not the entire time...The GH def was real my wrist hurt like shit after day 2...I did cardio 4-5 times per week 45 min. I didn't do ECA and clen together it was one or the other.
This time, I'm going with variety, I include all sorts of veggies, different carb sources and chicken vs. turkey..
Because I started working again, I'm going to go back to the turkey in a tupperware with veggies and most of my carbs will be in morning and post workout meals...very little in between...
I'll use gh still deciding on the dose, I'll use t-3...probably not clen and maybe ECA...I have DNP but would not consider using it unless I'm trying to get to 5-7% bf and I have no plans to do that unless it's for a show and as of now I'm not doing a show...
Current cycle is 800 mg test E, 600 mg Eq (blend...400mg test/300mg eq)
50mg t-3 ed
25 mg proviron ed
50 mg arimidex eod.
Only thing that will change is 4 or 6 i.u of Riptropin ed
t-3 will bump up to 100mg
ECA
Cardio 3-5 times per week.30 min..I like cardio, I like to people watch
great man 8)
best of luck to you 8)
you won't need it though - you have a strong will and mind 8)
merry xmas 8)
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never ever stop bodybuildign,,because when you try to come back it will be very hard,,the process of losing lean muscle mass espeically at your level is very hard to attain again ,,you always think you can get it back fast,,but in reality it takes 6-12 good months with all products at hand ,,ALL,,
you got good potential and youg,,dont quit,,but if you want to get anywhere in bodybuilding it wil have to be up the dose as we say it ,,and lots of gh,,you can get quite far then again youl neveer big money out of bodybuilding we all do it for passion ,,
now if you good source....thats another story ,,lots and lots of money,,but bodybuilding persay doesnt giveb you a lot of money,,and its hard unless you got supportive surrounding and enough money to put on everythign needed from drugs to food because you need to eat A LOT on hgh to pass the intial smily face 230-240 10%,,to get up to the 250 260 270 280 at singles oh you eat your momy and daddy and lots of hgh
gh15 approved
tru
everytime I move back into the 'rents house I get around 270 - I move out I get to 250 or so - always on gh but I think its allthe food I dont have to pay for
shout out to evan C
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never ever stop bodybuildign,,because when you try to come back it will be very hard,,the process of losing lean muscle mass espeically at your level is very hard to attain again ,,you always think you can get it back fast,,but in reality it takes 6-12 good months with all products at hand ,,ALL,,
you got good potential and youg,,dont quit,,but if you want to get anywhere in bodybuilding it wil have to be up the dose as we say it ,,and lots of gh,,you can get quite far then again youl neveer big money out of bodybuilding we all do it for passion ,,
now if you good source....thats another story ,,lots and lots of money,,but bodybuilding persay doesnt giveb you a lot of money,,and its hard unless you got supportive surrounding and enough money to put on everythign needed from drugs to food because you need to eat A LOT on hgh to pass the intial smily face 230-240 10%,,to get up to the 250 260 270 280 at singles oh you eat your momy and daddy and lots of hgh
gh15 approved
Men and women should never begin bb in the first place. Sure, workout and eat right and enjoy your hobby and health, but if you get that twinkle in your eye and decisions about drug use and bb stages enters your brain it's time to step away and get your head screwed on straight. Step number one is to logoff Getbig.
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Not claiming to be a superior guru than gh15 or discrediting him in any way.. The guy knows his stuff. I learned a lot from him.... The importance of using drugs mainly.... But come on guys.. He has been saying the same thing for years now, and now we have a wave of guys , some of which that used to call gh15 an idiot, all on his balls and acting as if they have found the holy grail in this latest posts. Nothing new there dudes... He has always said lots of roids + lots of gh = big ripped bodybuilder... However let me tell you something, especially for this new crop of gh15 believers... A lot of you seem very excited to start " mutating"... You are expecting dramatic changes and to look like a bodybuilder overnight.. Most of y'all probably think you already look at least a little muscular, and with the way gh15 describes the effects of drugs you do not doubt you'll be a beast in no time - a few months max. The reality is that you are going to be both amazed by how much faster you can grow and get lean, but also become aware of the fact that even with the dramatic increase in recovery, growth, etc that its going to take you a very long time in order to look like you want to. And itslikely, if your serious about building your dream body, you will stay on for the next severalyears of yourlife,if not decades... Mbecause that is how much use it is goiing to take for you to get there, even if your training insane and eating huge...
Okay okay, I'm not trying to hate on anybody 's excitement and eagerness to juice nor am I trying to discourage anyone from juicing.. Just a dose of reality for those of you who need it
Agreed! Good post T.
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Agreed! Good post T.
thanks mayne 8)
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I agree with that also, T.
I've been around a long time and way before roids became somewhat popular but the use of roids in my time was minimal compared to what's going on at present.
My only problem with GH 15 is how he says it and not with what he says.
When the use of roids was not illegal, a good friend of mine took 2,100 mg of shit a day - all precisely calculated so that he would always be at his drug intake peak. I think it was 6 weeks on, 4 weeks off and back to another 6 weeks on. (I can contact him for the exact details if anyone is really interested.)
A few months later he entered a local amateur contest, took first in his class and first overall and all the body part trophies that used to be awarded in those days.
And then he was asked to compete that same evening against the seven or eight IFBB pros who were primed to take home the winnings. (Back then this was no problem.)
He reluctantly agreed to do so and ended up walking away with that IFBB overall title and all the bodypart trophies that were presented.
It took the help of four of his friends and their cars to transport those 6 foot trophies back to KMCAS.
The last time I spoke with him he told me that the guys today are doing even more than he did back then.
And I can only assume that they are.
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I agree with that also, T.
I've been around a long time and way before roids became somewhat popular but the use of roids in my time was minimal compared to what's going on at present.
My only problem with GH 15 is how he says it and not with what he says.
When the use of roids was not illegal, a good friend of mine took 2,100 mg of shit a day - all precisely calculated so that he would always be at his drug intake peak. I think it was 6 weeks on, 4 weeks off and back to another 6 weeks on. (I can contact him for the exact details if anyone is really interested.)
A few months later he entered a local amateur contest, took first in his class and first overall and all the body part trophies that used to be awarded in those days.
And then he was asked to compete that same evening against the seven or eight IFBB pros who were primed to take home the winnings. (Back then this was no problem.)
He reluctantly agreed to do so and ended up walking away with that IFBB overall title and all the bodypart trophies that were presented.
It took the help of four of his friends and their cars to transport those 6 foot trophies back to KMCAS.
The last time I spoke with him he told me that the guys today are doing even more than he did back then.
And I can only assume that they are.
yep,, fellas today live their day according to their injection schedule ,,infact,,oral use become less and less now its a lot more injection use,,lots and lots of poking ,,orals ae still used a lot but today its all about the injection,,you got fellas now days that put in their ass and i am not kidding now,,5-6 cc every single day ,,listen to what im saying here,,5-6 cc/ml every single day of the week each butt cheeck 3 cc ,,
gh15 approved
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Men and women should never begin bb in the first place. Sure, workout and eat right and enjoy your hobby and health, but if you get that twinkle in your eye and decisions about drug use and bb stages enters your brain it's time to step away and get your head screwed on straight. Step number one is to logoff Getbig.
thats just ignorant
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Yes, GH15! And that’s where the big problem with competitive bodybuilding lies today.
“More” never seems to be ‘enough’ and those who rely on ‘more’ are the ‘winners‘ who reap the rewards!
It’s almost like “You can’t beat progress!”
But this progress comes with adverse side effects in many cases.
But who’s to stop it?
The competitive bodybuilders themselves?
No way! Not if they want to keep on winning!
The officials who run the events and decide who should win them?
That hasn’t seemed to work too well either.
Other organizations that claim to promote ‘natural, drug free’ contests?
Name the natural organization that actually does do what they claim to do!
I sure can’t!
But a change will eventually come from either one of two directions.
Fron the inside or the outside. From the IFBB or from federal mandate.
Or possibly a joint effort from both directions working hand in hand together.
Sounds impossible, doesn’t it? But he who leads the way and resolves the problem regardless of the objections will most likely be looked upon as Sir Gallahad on his great white steed by the media controlled, American public.
And that ‘public opinion’ alone just might be the major factor that will make one side or another stand up and make a change for the ‘better’.
Change will come, but not tomorrow nor the day after.
But the pressure of public opinion, no matter how erroneous it may or may not be, is a mighty force that will eventually have to be reckoned with.
It just moves slowly …. over many bumps.
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To be honest man im getting burned out. This winter has been harder then most. I feel like i have one more year left in me. For me to compete this year at the State show and to do North Americans i am going to have to raise approximately 5000 dollars for travel, entry fees, room, etc... You put soo much into this sport and nothing but negativity comes out of it. It is hard to keep pushing. I might flip my attitude around spring... it seems to always happen but every winter gets harder and harder.
You just need to find the right sponsor! :D
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You just need to find the right sponsor! :D
Or...to use a word I invented.."A Schmonsor." Which is a Sponsor that is also a Schmoe. ;D
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Yes, GH15! And that’s where the big problem with competitive bodybuilding lies today.
“More” never seems to be ‘enough’ and those who rely on ‘more’ are the ‘winners‘ who reap the rewards!
It’s almost like “You can’t beat progress!”
But this progress comes with adverse side effects in many cases.
But who’s to stop it?
The competitive bodybuilders themselves?
No way! Not if they want to keep on winning!
The officials who run the events and decide who should win them?
That hasn’t seemed to work too well either.
Other organizations that claim to promote ‘natural, drug free’ contests?
Name the natural organization that actually does do what they claim to do!
I sure can’t!
But a change will eventually come from either one of two directions.
Fron the inside or the outside. From the IFBB or from federal mandate.
Or possibly a joint effort from both directions working hand in hand together.
Sounds impossible, doesn’t it? But he who leads the way and resolves the problem regardless of the objections will most likely be looked upon as Sir Gallahad on his great white steed by the media controlled, American public.
And that ‘public opinion’ alone just might be the major factor that will make one side or another stand up and make a change for the ‘better’.
Change will come, but not tomorrow nor the day after.
But the pressure of public opinion, no matter how erroneous it may or may not be, is a mighty force that will eventually have to be reckoned with.
It just moves slowly …. over many bumps.
Who cares though?
I dont care what anyone else uses, I dont care if guys are using 'more and more'
Its bodybuilding and lots of gear builds your body, whats the issue?
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i still say taken all these drugs n growing muscle and working out is still much less dangerous than smokin 3 packs a day and drinkin a 12 pack every nite....i really believe the 2 worst drugs of all are legal. i dont know anyone who died or was really hurt to bad from steriods ect....but i hav 3 people in my immediate family that died from smoking and that is just my family....on this board nowdays for sum reason steriodlifestyle GREATLY !!!!!! overexagerated at how bad it actually is....guess i dont understand bein on here if ur not into bodybuildin/powerliftin and bein juiced... IMO and my life experience and bein in this game for 25 years and im still at it.
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i still say taken all these drugs n growing muscle and working out is still much less dangerous than smokin 3 packs a day and drinkin a 12 pack every nite....i really believe the 2 worst drugs of all are legal. i dont know anyone who died or was really hurt to bad from steriods ect....but i hav 3 people in my immediate family that died from smoking and that is just my family....on this board nowdays for sum reason steriodlifestyle GREATLY !!!!!! overexagerated at how bad it actually is....guess i dont understand bein on here if ur not into bodybuildin/powerliftin and bein juiced... IMO and my life experience and bein in this game for 25 years and im still at it.
i agree in regard to just steroids.
but not insulin and dnp.
i also fear that these new peptides will alter things they shouldn't, and this could lead to potential problems down the line, perhaps even passed to the next generation.
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i agree in regard to just steroids.
but not insulin and dnp.
i also fear that these new peptides will alter things they shouldn't, and this could lead to potential problems down the line, perhaps even passed to the next generation.
lol you talk like your opinion holds some weight, like your someone who should be listened to.
fuck you're delusional.
ahahahahahahahahahaha
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lol you talk like your opinion holds some weight, like your someone who should be listened to.
fuck you're delusional.
ahahahahahahahahahaha
:D
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lol you talk like your opinion holds some weight, like your someone who should be listened to.
fuck you're delusional.
ahahahahahahahahahaha
LMAO!!! brutal!
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hehehehheh too funny
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thats just ignorant
AHAHAAHAHAAH!!!! Sure it is.....sure it is.
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No.. where did I say That?
I'm natural...I have to say I guess I do have really good genetics even though growing up I never thought I was anything special....now I'm finding out anybody who looks like anything halfway decent is on something
To be Groinks size naturally is possible....I KNOW people who are his size/close to and have never trained seriously in their life, let alone took gear.
GH15s advice, whilst it is pretty much bang on, is nothing revolutionary or new. Just a lot of people on here wouldn't have been told it so detailed/bluntly/repetitively before, ergo it has a little more impact.....
Lots of drugs + adequate training + plenty of food = SIZE.
Not rocket science is it......
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lol you talk like your opinion holds some weight, like your someone who should be listened to.
fuck you're delusional.
ahahahahahahahahahaha
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To be Groinks size naturally is possible....I KNOW people who are his size/close to and have never trained seriously in their life, let alone took gear.
GH15s advice, whilst it is pretty much bang on, is nothing revolutionary or new. Just a lot of people on here wouldn't have been told it so detailed/bluntly/repetitively before, ergo it has a little more impact.....
Lots of drugs + adequate training + plenty of food = SIZE.
Not rocket science is it......
You know guys with 19 inch plus muscular arms who don't train seriously? I call bullshit on either your claims or your eyesight.
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lol you talk like your opinion holds some weight, like your someone who should be listened to.
fuck you're delusional.
ahahahahahahahahahaha
:D