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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Firemuscle on January 04, 2011, 05:49:35 PM
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Groink claims to be natural.
I say BULLSHIT.
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test IS natural...
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in before estimated cycle details.
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I think he uses testosterona, and low dosages of trenbolina, & stanzololina
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does anyone have a pic other than the tiny avatar?
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does anyone have a pic other than the tiny avatar?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=323648.0;attach=362242;image)
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Groink claims to be natural.
I say BULLSHIT.
Quit yer` bitchin` !!
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does anyone have a pic other than the tiny avatar?
he is all the way a big dude.....even if he isnt natural, i doubt he is on a lot of shit.....he has been at that whole lifting thing for a while now..
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"natural" is kind of a vague term these days
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does anyone have a pic other than the tiny avatar?
gayer than asking for another dude's pic
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"natural" is kind of a vague term these days
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you guys need to keep in mind that groinks only 5'6 so those pics make him seem a lot bigger than he really is
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his arms are short, which makes them seem even bigger than they are.
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Couple questions of my own
1. Why do you care?
2. Why doubt him because he's bigger than you
Brutal lack of self esteem and narrow mindedness
3. Would he be natural in your eyes if he was smaller than you
4. Do you realise how narrow minded and envious this thread makes you look
However to Answer the question
Yes.
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his arms are short, which makes them seem even bigger than they are.
i hear he wears a size 8 shoe
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i hear he wears a size 8 shoe
Come on guys he's only on 500MG test week..That's natural by almost any measure.
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Couple questions of my own
1. Why do you care?
2. Why doubt him because he's bigger than you
Brutal lack of self esteem and narrow mindedness
3. Would he be natural in your eyes if he was smaller than you
4. Do you realise how narrow minded and envious this thread makes you look
However to Answer the question
Yes.
This is a bodybuilding site.
And this is a bodybuilded related topic.
If you don't like bodybuilding. Get the fuck outta here.
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This is a bodybuilding site.
And this is a bodybuilded related topic.
If you don't like bodybuilding. Get the fuck outta here.
so, you like bodybuilding now?
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so, you like bodybuilding now?
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I am bodybuilding. Look it up in the dictionary and you'll see my face.
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test IS natural...
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so is GH ;D
Groink is definitely not natural.
He is a massive fucker though, that is for sure.
Here's his cycle:
my good friend gets kits for $500 that he swears are the best GH he has ever used and he's been pinning himself since the early 90's.
He takes 2 IUs a day and 600 mgs of test a week and he's 6'1" 245 Shredded to the bone and eats whatever the fuck he wants.
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This is a bodybuilding site.
And this is a bodybuilded related topic.
If you don't like bodybuilding. Get the fuck outta here.
Who are you to tell me about bbing troll
What the fuck have you contributed here except talking shit
1 saying that doesn't change what I said
Groink has better genes than you I'm guessing
Doesn't mean he takes drugs
Deal with it
At least he has posted some material
Ron should have a rule
Post material discuss something constructive
Or get the fuck outta here
You would be gone troll
Meso
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so is GH ;D
Groink is definitely not natural.
He is a massive fucker though, that is for sure.
Here's his cycle:
i never understood what the big deal was....its just some extra shit your body already produces.....if i was on i wouldnt hide it....not saying he is on..i dont know and dont really care....just saying in general..
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Who are you to tell me about bbing troll
What the fuck have you contributed here except talking shit
1 saying that doesn't change what I said
Groink has better genes than you I'm guessing
Doesn't mean he takes drugs
Deal with it
At least he has posted some material
Ron should have a rule
Post material discuss something constructive
Or get the fuck outta here
You would be gone troll
Meso
You can get down on the floor and suck my cock with that mouth boy.
He isn't genetically superior to me. His torso looks like a bag of smashed assholes and from head to toe he isn't aesthetic. Very shitty shape and structure.
He's got impressive arms but that's it. But building impressive arms with a ton of drugs is not difficult. Bring the whole package...
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i never understood what the big deal was....its just some extra shit your body already produces.....if i was on i wouldnt hide it....not saying he is on..i dont know and dont really care....just saying in general..
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I agree.
Why don't you give this speech to all the police departments around the USA and get the shit legalized.
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This guy is all natural too, adrain a member on here
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=291169.0;attach=334446;image)
It just so happens that we have some of the greatest naturals of all time on this board, I am honored to be here.
We also have great naturals like Kiyoshi Moody and Big Ach.
Genetic FREAKS posting on Getbig. Top 0.0001% muscle building genetics.
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You can get down on the floor and suck my cock with that mouth boy.
He isn't genetically superior to me. His torso looks like a bag of smashed assholes and from head to toe he isn't aesthetic. Very shitty shape and structure.
He's got impressive arms but that's it. But building impressive arms with a ton of drugs is not difficult. Bring the whole package...
I'm inclined to agree with you that he's not natural. Don't forget, though, that jealousy is considered a female trait.
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I agree.
Why don't you give this speech to all the police departments around the USA and get the shit legalized.
since when do police departments make laws?
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Xerxes we have a new natural here who is going to compete at 220 @ 5'9 on stage...He'll blow andrain out the water if true.
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Gronk aka the king of clothes pics? He definately works hard but a good chunk of his size is just fat and carbs/creatine water retention. He even admitted once that his lean version would sit as low as 200 lbs which is still impressive for a natural but perfectably possible for someone with descent genetics and that knows his shit.
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FRIENDS this scumbags,, Groink does not let him liar to yoyu like liar priest,, this pysic classic classic screams waterbloat from hormones testosterona based plus 2-4IU GH,,, this the type of guy who tells little kiddies in gym that he using celltech,,, nitrotech,, scammttech,, and cause many young gym kids lose all their lunch monies buying this overpriced,, overhyped,, garbages shit shit products,,, if you donnt believe GOD OF HORMONEs reeread bible that i provide you,, then consult back to pickturex
GH15 approved.
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You can get down on the floor and suck my cock with that mouth boy.
He isn't genetically superior to me. His torso looks like a bag of smashed assholes and from head to toe he isn't aesthetic. Very shitty shape and structure.
He's got impressive arms but that's it. But building impressive arms with a ton of drugs is not difficult. Bring the whole package...
I'm going to ignore your gay comment...
But to stick to the subject let's see your picture
Of your phsique that's bette than groinks
A picture with you holding a sign saying getbig 5/1/2010
Cue excuses
Yeah that's what I thought like someone said jealousy is a female trait
Close your beak
Enjoy your thread
Meso >out<
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I'm going to ignore your gay comment...
But to stick to the subject let's see your picture
Of your phsique that's bette than groinks
A picture with you holding a sign saying getbig 5/1/2010
Cue excuses
Yeah that's what I thought like someone said jealousy is a female trait
Close your beak
Enjoy your thread
Meso >out<
OK here's my picture. BADASS bicep huh?
(http://images.clipartof.com/small/28223-Clipart-Illustration-Of-A-Tough-Strong-White-Man-Flexing-His-Big-Arm-Muscles-And-Flashing-A-Mean-Face.jpg)
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BFRS why do you give so many fucks about this?
Groink is one of the better posters here and doesn't seem to do much to antagonize this much jealousy.
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FRIENDS this scumbags,, Groink does not let him liar to yoyu like liar priest,, this pysic classic classic screams waterbloat from hormones testosterona based plus 2-4IU GH,,, this the type of guy who tells little kiddies in gym that he using celltech,,, nitrotech,, scammttech,, and cause many young gym kids lose all their lunch monies buying this overpriced,, overhyped,, garbages shit shit products,,, if you donnt believe GOD OF HORMONEs reeread bible that i provide you,, then consult back to pickturex
GH15 approved.
actualy i like the fella,,he is good fella,,he also has one of best set of arms in npc lol ,,so yes he is hormonized but he just didnt start young enough and with high enough dosages ,,if he did......probably top amatuer or pro,,but he didnt so he is large fella with muscle which is ok too,,not everyone want to be competing,,its ok too
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IMO Groink is just playing with getbiggers when he say he's natural. He said that he thinks layne norton is not natural and steve reeves was in hormones, so, why he would say that and then he says he's natural? I think he's just having fun.
Great post.
These naive tools that swear Reeves was natural....BECAUSE HE SAID SO.....make me laugh
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One day I will pretend I'm natural just to make people angry, cause most people don't appreciate my honesty when I tell them I'm on Test. .... Na would never happen, cause I couldn't live with myself being that kind of asshole ... It's a shame so many can...
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Come on guys he's only on 500MG test week..That's natural by almost any measure.
I'm on 250mg a week, does that mean I'm a natural too? ;D
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I'm on 250mg a week, does that mean I'm a natural too? ;D
Yes, you are natural if you are under 500mg test and 4UI gh per day.
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Yes, you are natural if you are under 500mg test and 4UI gh per day.
Dang! Thats great to know! :D
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OK here's my picture. BADASS bicep huh?
(http://images.clipartof.com/small/28223-Clipart-Illustration-Of-A-Tough-Strong-White-Man-Flexing-His-Big-Arm-Muscles-And-Flashing-A-Mean-Face.jpg)
Ahahahahaha!!! I just lost it when I saw that classic old man strength and epic geezer peaks lol.
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I'm on 250mg a week, does that mean I'm a natural too? ;D
Totally!!
250mg a week is nothing.
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Totally!!
250mg a week is nothing.
that's a good HRT dosage..
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Xerxes we have a new natural here who is going to compete at 220 @ 5'9 on stage...He'll blow andrain out the water if true.
Haha, are you referring to the great "Methyl Mike"?
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Totally!!
250mg a week is nothing.
I know, but I take it pretty easy nowadays. If I want to compete, I will probably take 1000mg something, and some GH and T3.
Actually I get pretty ok results with low doses.
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I know, but I take it pretty easy nowadays. If I want to compete, I will probably take 1000mg something, and some GH and T3.
Actually I get pretty ok results with low doses.
I was kidding, i think you can get good enough results on 250mg if you are just a gym rat.
Much better anyways than the "real" naturals.
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I was kidding, i think you can get good enough results on 250mg if you are just a gym rat.
Much better anyways than the "real" naturals.
I thought I was a real natural Haha!
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Haha, are you referring to the great "Methyl Mike"?
Yes i was....
With the name "methyl" you would think he was a fan of DBOL or Anadrol...? However, he's natural :o
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I thought I was a real natural Haha!
Well you are!
You're not "real" natural, but natural. I think that should be ok with you. ;D ;D ;D
You can still add some tren, eq and up to 4 iu of HGH to still be natural. ;D ;D
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I don't think, I know he is a lifetime natural. Good genetics and 30yrs lifting hard lifting will built you his kind of physique.
Don't believe me? check out the proof.
Jealousy is a bitch.
Neither am i you insignificant speck of nothing....100% lifetime natural, just superior genes at work. Also much handsomer in the face than you I would bet.
Nasser isn't lean...not even close, he's 20% or better in that vid. he looks like a blowfish with that giant melon.
I can help him gain a respectable physique back, and make him look good again. poor Nasser spent a lifetime letting all of those drugs do the work for him, now he has no answer because they have stopped working, leaving him a bloated mix of fat and sloppy muscle.
He must learn from a Natural MASTER trainer how to properly make your muscles respond
Yes the wizard of testicle eating is a shell of his former self. He is nowhere near 300 lbs., more like 250....my size.
The only difference....and one which makes me VASTLY superior, is that he STILL takes large amounts of steroids and i am a lifetime natural.
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I don't think, I know he is a lifetime natural. Good genetics and 30yrs lifting hard lifting will built you his kind of physique.
Don't believe me? check out the proof.
Jealousy is a bitch.
Nope. A 45 year old man would NOT look like Groink naturally.
If he was 25 it would be debateable. But at 45 it's obviously all drugs.
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I know, but I take it pretty easy nowadays. If I want to compete, I will probably take 1000mg something, and some GH and T3.
Actually I get pretty ok results with low doses.
I grew like crazy my first cycle of 200mg test, 200mg deca, 20mg dbol, for 3 weeks, then 20mg of winstrol the rest of the 12 weeks.
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Well you are!
You're not "real" natural, but natural. I think that should be ok with you. ;D ;D ;D
You can still add some tren, eq and up to 4 iu of HGH to still be natural. ;D ;D
Great... I got cycle I want to do in the future... Great if I can do it and still be natural... Know my mom would be proud 8)
750mg test/week
2 Adrols
4iu GH
20iu Slin
50mcg T3
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I never taken slin though, so I have no idea what to expect.
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I never taken slin though, so I have no idea what to expect.
Best case: Muscle growth, Bigger stomach,
Worst case: Death
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I never taken slin though, so I have no idea what to expect.
Personally i think it's really too much for people that are not competing on a higher level.
I think you would do fine without the slin.
Too much risk for some muscles.
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Nope. A 45 year old man would NOT look like Groink naturally.
If he was 25 it would be debateable. But at 45 it's obviously all drugs.
He is 45, he does look like that and he IS lifetime natural. He is living disproof of your theory.
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Maybe I pass on slin then. A friend said he got the most incredible pump of slin.
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Best case: Muscle growth, Bigger stomach,
Worst case: Death
Does slin really give you bigger stomach? I though only GH and IGF1 did that.
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He is 45, he does look like that and he IS lifetime natural. He is living disproof of your theory.
Natural, not natural, on gear, off gear... who gives a shit really? Everyone with a little bit of brains knows how it is anyway.
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I'm on 250mg a week, does that mean I'm a natural too? ;D
250mg is natural ,,its just hrt wont do shit beside give you some stamina and maintain little more thickness,,will get you hard on and the need to fuck on a more than once a day basis ,,,get the porn ready if no girlfriend,,thats wht 250mg testosterona does ,,10lb gains of water and little muscle thickness,,thats abou tit ,, so yes it is natural
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This guy is all natural too, adrain a member on here
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=291169.0;attach=334446;image)
It just so happens that we have some of the greatest naturals of all time on this board, I am honored to be here.
As natural as a dog licking peanut butter off my asshole and helping me crank one off.
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I'm one of the few here that thinks Groink is natural. He's disclosed a lot of stuff about his life, including rec drug use and it's not like he's playing the Guru angle all the time or an attention whore who posts his pics every chance he gets, so what's the point in lying about his status when it comes up 2 or 3 times a year? Nor does he compete or preach like some of our resident jokes, which means he's not getting anything out of it.
What is a fact is that the majority of the guys who are dissing him are small and not natural themselves, which means they don't know shit about what you can do naturally, let alone with genetics like Groink's.
Best case: Muscle growth, Bigger stomach,
Worst case: Death
LOL @ your avatar & personal text ;D
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If i were in the states
with my pic on getbig (face)
IP logged
and knowing some of the douchebags here who try to ruin people's lives for silly shit
AND not being stupid about the crackdown in the US on steroids (since they failed with with almost every other drug)
i would say i was natural too and swear on my mothers life i was.
so stop bugging the guy
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Nope. A 45 year old man would NOT look like Groink naturally.
If he was 25 it would be debateable. But at 45 it's obviously all drugs.
LOL stfu.....
groink = clean and owning minds like Thulsa Doom on a gay parade all day.... end of the story...
A reunion is under way....
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maybe he likes training arms? ???
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groink = clean
This would be my "worst case scenario" guess about Groink - that he pulled a Croatch or Kyomu and did a small cycle in the past, which doesn't make him a juicer nor a person whose physique can be entirely or even hugely attributed to steroids.
BlackFag has always had a huge hard-on for Groink for some reason, so his refusing to believe in Groink's natty status is as surprising as Hulkster posting pics from the 99 Olympia.
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it's possible that he looks deceivingly big in those pics. A combination of massive pump / good angle / distance / etc probably adds up and gives the illusion of a physique that is much larger than it really is.
Not to take away from his size though, he probably is a big fella. but maybe not steroid big...
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I have met people that lie themself blue in the face, swear on their mothers grave that they are clean, lie to their friends, family etc. And one day the truth comes out. And they say:"Well, you knew I was on all along" with a mother fucking smile on their lips...
There seem to be alot of those people.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=323648.0;attach=362242;image)
Ok, the guy's got 21-22 arms... that's never going to happen naturally. Not in his condition, even he is not hard... it's just not going to happen.
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Ok, the guy's got 21-22 arms... that's never going to happen naturally. Not in his condition, even he is not hard... it's just not going to happen.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... You meat tromboners never miss a chance to go for the lust...
oh brother... ::) ::)
Groink is a Destroyer, natural or not...
Now bow to your Don.
Enough said.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... You meat tromboners never miss a chance to go for the lust...
oh brother... ::) ::)
Groink is a Destroyer, natural or not...
Now bow to your Don.
Enough said.
We'll do what we can to be entertaining
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We'll do what we can to be entertaining
That's the spirit ;D
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Groink claims to be natural.
I say BULLSHIT.
No, he's not "natural" but then again very few if anyone who actually bodybuilds is "natural". You need to define "natural". In bodybuilding it's a VERY vague term.
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This would be my "worst case scenario" guess about Groink - that he pulled a Croatch or Kyomu and did a small cycle in the past, which doesn't make him a juicer nor a person whose physique can be entirely or even hugely attributed to steroids.
Studies indicate that if you do a cycle in your twenties, the benefits can be long-lasting. perhaps permanemt.
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natural is fucking eating food and training THATS IT
THERE IS NO FUCKING NATURAL AND THE NATURALS I KNOW ALL LOOK LIKE THEY DONT EVEN TOUCH WEIGHT
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natural is fucking eating food and training THATS IT
THERE IS NO FUCKING NATURAL AND THE NATURALS I KNOW ALL LOOK LIKE THEY DONT EVEN TOUCH WEIGHT
LOL so true.... I once dry humped a "natural" thinking he was a chick... then came to my senses...
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Groink claims to be natural.
I say BULLSHIT.
Doesn't matter. There is no such thing as natural. Peace brothers
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No, he's not "natural" but then again very few if anyone who actually bodybuilds is "natural". You need to define "natural". In bodybuilding it's a VERY vague term.
A nautral is someone who just trains and eats, maybe take protein and vitamins.
When anabolic pills and injections enter the picture, it is no longer natural.
Seems like the meaning of "natural" is pretty clear to me. Of course you can argue about things like creatine and pro-hormones and whether that's "natural". These are sort of in the grey area.
If you try hormones or AAS at all, you definitely should'nt call yourself natty. But of course almost nobody follows that rule.
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Studies indicate that if you do a cycle in your twenties, the benefits can be long-lasting. perhaps permanemt.
That is a vague, blanket statement that is meaningless without specifics. A cycle can be downing a few pills over a week and then never doing it again, to something that resembles that of an IFBB pro's. We don't know if Groink even did anything, let alone what the details are, so your post is hardly a convincing argument.
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A nautral is someone who just trains and eats, maybe take protein and vitamins.
When anabolic pills and injections enter the picture, it is no longer natural.
Seems like the meaning of "natural" is pretty clear to me. Of course you can argue about things like creatine and pro-hormones and whether that's "natural". These are sort of in the grey area.
If you try hormones or AAS at all, you definitely should'nt call yourself natty. But of course almost nobody follows that rule.
Bottom line is you're a black fag red star so you've got bigger things to worry about than to swing at a larger man's nutt sack.
Carry on.
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Bottom line is you're a black fag red star so you've got bigger things to worry about than to swing at a larger man's nutt sack.
Carry on.
Your obsession with "large men" and "big guys" and "alpha males" is very homosexual. You definitely are all about men's bodies. That's cool man.
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My obsession with "large men" and "big guys" and "alpha males" is very homosexual. I'm definitely are all about men's bodies. That's cool man.
Outed.
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That is a vague, blanket statement that is meaningless without specifics. A cycle can be downing a few pills over a week and then never doing it again, to something that resembles that of an IFBB pro's. We don't know if Groink even did anything, let alone what the details are, so your post is hardly a convincing argument.
Anything that gives you new muscle nuclei would count. Anyway who cares. Groink looks healthy and that's what really counts.
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Outed.
Make a video about me.
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to small to be on steroids
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I don't know much but i do know that Groink is a man with muscles.
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I don't make a big fuss over doink because he's an old fucking man holding on to whatever he has left...
It's always the same picture with a shirt on...Let's see that shirtless pic gramps...Then well if the 15% BF claim holds up.
BTW is he really only 5'6? lol
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I don't make a big fuss over doink because he's an old fucking man holding on to whatever he has left...
It's always the same picture with a shirt on...Let's see that shirtless pic gramps...Then well if the 15% BF claim holds up.
BTW is he really only 5'6? lol
yes , and he dyes his hair regularly
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yes , and he dyes his hair regularly
He's 5'6 and claims to be Alpha? I don't believe he's 5'6...no way...With all the shit he's talked, I can't believe it..I thought he was 5'10 or 5'11.
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He's 5'6 and claims to be Alpha? I don't believe he's 5'6...no way...With all the shit he's talked, I can't believe it..I thought he was 5'10 or 5'11.
standing on a milk crate may be
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You've got to be shitting me...He's a fucking borderline midget....
Doink, Are you a natural midget old fella? Are we gonna get those shirtless pics front and back? no homo...
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To the question "Re: Do you think Groink is natural?".
I think hes full of shit.
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Blackstar you said you have a better physique than groink
Still waiting for you to post up a pic of you holding a pic saying "getbig 5/1/11
Till then
Close your beak
Your just an anonymous Internet troll
What have you brought to the table
Nothing
No pics no training knowledge nothing
Just logging on to a bbing forum to chat shit....
Complete loser
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You've got to be shitting me...He's a fucking borderline midget....
Doink, Are you a natural midget old fella? Are we gonna get those shirtless pics front and back? no homo...
Think he's 5'11"
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Natural.
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it's possible that he looks deceivingly big in those pics. A combination of massive pump / good angle / distance / etc probably adds up and gives the illusion of a physique that is much larger than it really is.
Not to take away from his size though, he probably is a big fella. but maybe not steroid big...
Oh no....I'm that big ;D...I should post a video....I look much better in real life...I have way better shape and definition than pics show....my muscles have that nice "pop" to em That you don't see often
5'11"......thanks Kiwi.
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Oh no....I'm that big ;D
How tall are you Doink and We'd like to see shirtless pics front and back...no homo.
Snap to it gramps.
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natural as a man putting another mans cock in his asshole
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How tall are you Doink and We'd like to see shirtless pics front and back...no homo.
Snap to it gramps.
Ill get right on that you lazy fat black bastard
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Groink is buried deep in someones head....
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I really don't think that blackflag is the least bit jealous. I just think dat he is the type of fella who doesn't put up wit any bullshiting from others, and when he sees that someone is full of shit, them he calls them on it.
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Meh, who cares, there are that many hormones in food nowadays anyway.
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So you think that the hormones in food can compare with the sause? If so, then you just blew this calorie is a calorie thing clean out of the water lol
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Ill get right on that you lazy fat black bastard
I'll beat your fucking face in old fucking dago, and watch the blood slide down that foot long chin of yours. Post the fucking pics you old fuck...Don't let your pride cause you get your face smashed in...I'd beat your ass when I was fat and I'll definitely crush your soul now that I'm not....Post the fucking pics gladiator...How about some leg pics also instead of the same recycled pics...
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stfu twinks groink posted pics of his face and said people he knows were reading getbig, do you really think hes gonna admit using aas tards? most likely he got a gimmick or post on another forum about gear. that said he got an awesome build. imo 1500mg test 800deca+ 6ius gh owning little weak minds everyday at the gym and of course getbig ;)
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So you think that the hormones in food can compare with the sause? If so, then you just blew this calorie is a calorie thing clean out of the water lol
sarcasm doesn't translate well on the net
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I am disappoint. Shouldn't somebody hav already started a collection for test to be delivered and used by Groikn and posted on the utube thingy?
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Maybe not PJim, and I'm not taking a piss out of you personally, coz I think that you are a rather decent fella. But do you really think that the hormones in food can really compare to the sause?
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Groink claims to be natural.
I say BULLSHIT.
Did he fuck your girlfriend or something? You have an unhealthy obsession with him. Given that you've admitted to sucking dick and taking it up the ass, I'd venture to guess that you've got a crush on him.
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i think Groink naturally owns half the minds in this thread....
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Possible. he is shortish so easy to fill out.
Also his arms are definately a strong point yet his chest is weak point. That maybe explains why they are so big. he presses big weights on the bench using predominantly his arms.
Also I think he said they were a bit over 19"
If he says he is and isn't only kidding himself as I won't lose sleep over it. I have no reason to dispute his natural status.
To me nattie is food and supps. No drugs, pro hormones or stuff like gh etc
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Who the fuck cares about natural or not...What matters is how you look. Do you natural jackasses believe there is honor in being natural and smaller or fatter? Newsflash! No one gives a fuck that you're natural. People want to see freaks with really low bodyfat or abnormally large muscles and crazy strength and if you're natural, you aint it baby...
Save that natural shit for someone that cares cause no one here does...Keep foolin' yourself and over stating side effects of PEDs it's working really well for you.
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Who the fuck cares about natural or not...What matters is how you look. Do you natural jackasses believe there is honor in being natural and smaller or fatter? Newsflash! No one gives a fuck that you're natural. People want to see freaks and if you're natural, you aint it baby...
Save that natural shit for someone that cares cause no one here does...
true, id juice if i knew where to find it ;D
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Who the fuck cares about natural or not...What matters is how you look. Do you natural jackasses believe there is honor in being natural and smaller or fatter? Newsflash! No one gives a fuck that you're natural. People want to see freaks with really low bodyfat or abnormally large muscles and crazy strength and if you're natural, you aint it baby...
Save that natural shit for someone that cares cause no one here does...Keep foolin' yourself and over stating side effects of PEDs it's working really well for you.
Firstly I do not care about the "respect" culture prevelant so much today in young men.
However. People find it more impressive that guys are big without gear as oppossed to taking gear and being big. You take real PED's and eat half decenta nd train half decent you will make more gains in 2 months than I will in a year. Simple fact. Similar how the top natties at 5'10 are maybe 185lbs yest the top druggies at that height are 285lbs. 100lbs of lean mass is a huge difference
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Firstly I do not care about the "respect" culture prevelant so much today in young men.
However. People find it more impressive that guys are big without gear as oppossed to taking gear and being big. You take real PED's and eat half decenta nd train half decent you will make more gains in 2 months than I will in a year. Simple fact. Similar how the top natties at 5'10 are maybe 185lbs yest the top druggies at that height are 285lbs. 100lbs of lean mass is a huge difference
bro, i honestly think you could be one of the top natties in the world...no bullshit..
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Obviously not natural, anyone who has been around people who juice or have juiced can tell.
Don't blame him for lieing about it on here, not the smartest thing to do is advertise your illegal gear use on such a popular website where he's posted his pics (face included).
His faux offended act is tiresome and makes him look silly to people in the know though.
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I don't really think dat blackflag gives a rats ass if groink is truly natural or not, I believe the whole reason that he started this thread was to call groink out as a liar. That's my belief, and I'm sticking to it ;)
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Firstly I do not care about the "respect" culture prevelant so much today in young men.
However. People find it more impressive that guys are big without gear as oppossed to taking gear and being big. You take real PED's and eat half decenta nd train half decent you will make more gains in 2 months than I will in a year. Simple fact. Similar how the top natties at 5'10 are maybe 185lbs yest the top druggies at that height are 285lbs. 100lbs of lean mass is a huge difference
I disagree. People are impressed by size and low bf period...If they were impressed by the fact that wasn't taken, natural bodybuilding would be alot more popular than IFBB bodybuilding and natural bodybuilding isn't even 100% natural. Alot more Powerlifting events would be tested...It's the next step in the evolutionary chain, we're driving cars you are defending horse and carriages and overstating the dangers of PEDs.
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I disagree. People are impressed by size and low bf period...If they were impressed by the fact that wasn't taken, natural bodybuilding would be alot more popular than IFBB bodybuilding and natural bodybuilding isn't even 100% natural. Alot more Powerlifting events would be tested...It's the next step in the evolutionary chain, we're driving cars you are defending horse and carriages and overstating the dangers of PEDs.
a lot of people also dont realize that ursus damn near dwarfs groink......dude is big, AND lean.....
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a lot of people also dont realize that ursus damn near dwarfs groink......dude is big, AND lean.....
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I would hope so. He's 6'4..I believe Ursus is a natty but he looks like a guy with a good natty physique that happens to be tall...BUT a guy like Sean Allen who is also 6'4 and juiced to the gills is much more impressive than Ursus...If they were standing next to each other, Ursus wouldn't get a second look.That's no offense to him but more a nod to the power of PEDs.
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Who the fuck cares about natural or not...What matters is how you look. Do you natural jackasses believe there is honor in being natural and smaller or fatter? Newsflash! No one gives a fuck that you're natural. People want to see freaks with really low bodyfat or abnormally large muscles and crazy strength and if you're natural, you aint it baby...
Save that natural shit for someone that cares cause no one here does...Keep foolin' yourself and over stating side effects of PEDs it's working really well for you.
I disagree. People are impressed by size and low bf period...If they were impressed by the fact that wasn't taken, natural bodybuilding would be alot more popular than IFBB bodybuilding and natural bodybuilding isn't even 100% natural. Alot more Powerlifting events would be tested...It's the next step in the evolutionary chain, we're driving cars you are defending horse and carriages and overstating the dangers of PEDs.
depends on the person. in the rare case of someone who is aware of the fact that its next to impossible to look like a bodybuilder without steroids, then they will be impressed with big muscles and low bodyfat on a juicer.
but in 90% of the people out there, who think that steroids are evil, only for cheaters, and magic drugs.. they will not think your impressive in the slightests, no matter how big or lean you are, if they know your ons steroids. they think " oh, its all fake, he didnt earn any of that, and i could look the same way in a month if i took steroids too"
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I would hope so. He's 6'4..I believe Ursus is a natty but he looks like a guy with a good natty physique that happens to be tall...BUT a guy like Sean Allen who is also 6'4 and juiced to the gills is much more impressive than Ursus...If they were standing next to each other, Ursus wouldn't get a second look.That's no offense to him but more a nod to the power of PEDs.
it not even the fact that he is tall...the dude is just big, and lean....obviously just has the genetics for this..
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it not even the fact that he is tall...the dude is just big, and lean....obviously just has the genetics for this..
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goudy is huge, and i believe he is natural for some reason, but i dont think it has anything to do with his genetics.
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goudy is huge, and i believe he is natural for some reason, but i dont think it has anything to do with his genetics.
If he's natural and that size it has everything to do with his genetics...in addition to dietary habits.
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Great post tbombz, and you are so very right. To the "average" and "normal" person, juiced up fellas are ridiculed and put down on a regular and consistant basis, by both males AND FEMALES.
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If he's natural and that size it has everything to do with his genetics...in addition to dietary habits.
i think yoru wrong on both of those counts. for one, goudy has kidney issues and has never eaten much protein. i think he gets 100g per day or less, if i recall correctly. for two, look at pictures of him as a kid that he posted. skinny geeky looking kid. and he is way bigger than his parents now too.
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goudy is huge, and i believe he is natural for some reason, but i dont think it has anything to do with his genetics.
That statement makes absolutely zero sense. :-\
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That statement makes absolutely zero sense. :-\
consistant HEAVY training + belief in his own ability + goudy is a man of God. ;)
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consistant HEAVY training + belief in his own ability + goudy is a man of God. ;)
Goudy has a great build no doubt, but without decent genetics he could lift heavy all he wants and it wouldn't matter. You know this....
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depends on the person. in the rare case of someone who is aware of the fact that its next to impossible to look like a bodybuilder without steroids, then they will be impressed with big muscles and low bodyfat on a juicer.
but in 90% of the people out there, who think that steroids are evil, only for cheaters, and magic drugs.. they will not think your impressive in the slightests, no matter how big or lean you are, if they know your ons steroids. they think " oh, its all fake, he didnt earn any of that, and i could look the same way in a month if i took steroids too"
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Correct...so ignorance and jealousy....It's very humbling to a normal gym fella to be in the presence of someone so much physically superior than them...Their ego will go everywhere but where the truth is...Meanwhile their broad is thinking about being plowed by these superior beasts while they're busy hating...
I disagree, deep down they are impressed but will NEVER show it....EGO.
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That statement makes absolutely zero sense. :-\
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consistant HEAVY training + belief in his own ability + goudy is a man of God. ;)
put the bong down....It's genetics...No psedo-science BS...Of course heavy training...You can heavy train all day long but if you don't have the genetics to be big and you're natural you won't be big.
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Goudy has a great build no doubt, but without decent genetics he could lift heavy all he wants and it wouldn't matter. You know this....
nah, thats just the bullshit youve been fed. heavy weights=big muscles. genetics or no genetics, hormones or no hormones.
Correct...so ignorance and jealousy....It's very humbling to a normal gym fella to be in the presence of some so much physically superior than them...They're ego will go everywhere but where the truth is...Meanwhile their broad is thinking about being plowed by these superior beasts while they're busy hating...
I disagree, deep down they are impressed but will NEVER show it....EGO.
broads are niave, id say about 50% or more of them would become turned off once they found out the bigger guys was on juice.
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To show a picture of some dude that has a relatively high bf percentage and ask if he's natural or not is a lousy question.
Post a pic of him dieted down. Then we'll be able to tell yes or no.
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nah, thats just the bullshit youve been fed. heavy weights=big muscles. genetics or no genetics, hormones or no hormones.
But you are missing the point....without decent genetics you couldn't move "heavy weights" and get bigger.
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nah, thats just the bullshit youve been fed. heavy weights=big muscles. genetics or no genetics, hormones or no hormones.
broads are niave, id say about 50% or more of them would become turned off once they found out the bigger guys was on juice.
What's your point? They liked the size just not how he got it.
Of course...broads are willing to spend the money, then get pissed when they found out what you did to get it...take it away and all of a sudden they don't care that much anymore...
About your first statement...ummmmmm no...Heavy weights equal BIGGER muscles...not Big muscles without hormones....and yes, genetics is everything when you're not juicing. You'd be a fool to believe otherwise.
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anybody who can lift as much as goudy can will be pretty fucking big. not ifbb/top npc size muscles, but real big muscles nonetheless.
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nah, thats just the bullshit youve been fed. heavy weights=big muscles. genetics or no genetics, hormones or no hormones.
Retarded post.
If you or a guy like Deicide lifted the weight Goudy lifts (which you can't, because your strength also boils down to genetics), neither of you will be as big as Goudy.
That's why there is only one Dorian Yates and one Ronnie Coleman, even though there are many bodybuilders out there who can lift what they can or more. Are you saying if someone did what Dorian did for calves, they'd have the same size calves as him?
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Retarded post.
If you or a guy like Deicide lifted the weight Goudy lifts (which you can't, because your strength also boils down to genetics), neither of you will be as big as Goudy.
That's why there is only one Dorian Yates and one Ronnie Coleman, even though there are many bodybuilders out there who can lift what they can or more.
::) where did i say that two guys of equal strength will have equal muscle size?
once again your efforts at appearing intelligent have failed
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anybody who can lift as much as goudy can will be pretty fucking big. not ifbb/top npc size muscles, but real big muscles nonetheless.
Define "real big muscles"...At this point for me real big muscles is different for me than a new gym rat. What is pretty fucking big?
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Define "real big muscles"...At this point for me real big muscles is different for me than a new gym rat. What is pretty fucking big?
true. "real big muscles"=big enough so that people can tell you lift heavy weights.
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Define "real big muscles"...At this point for me real big muscles is different for me than a new gym rat. What is pretty fucking big?
Tdizzle's Dome piece (head) is fucking huge.. Steroids made his head grow exponentially...His muscles not so much..
Tbombz will look like jay cutler soon, without the muscles..Not hating BTW..
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::) where did i say that two guys of equal strength will have equal muscle size?
Not everyone can be as strong as Goudy and even if they are, they are not going to be as big. You are saying everyone who lifts big weights is going to be big, but that's not correct.
There are lightweight powerlifters who lift more than Goudy, but aren't anywhere near as big, let alone bigger. Your size and strength are limited by your genetics, which means some people will be better than the majority.
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You are saying everyone who lifts big weights is going to be big, but that's not correct.
yes it is. use common sense here. not everybody who lifts big weights will be massive. but they will be big enough to lift big weights. ;) its as simple as that (strength is equal to size of muscle)
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not everybody who lifts big weights will be massive. but they will be big enough to lift big weights. ;)
In light of this stunning conclusion, you shall henceforth be known as
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yes it is. use common sense here. not everybody who lifts big weights will be massive. but they will be big enough to lift big weights. ;) its as simple as that (strength is equal to size of muscle)
Damn bro, you get some ugly ass chicks...No haterade drinker
You were better looking when you were younger. I think it's time you stop using steriods. Your a non-responder...Your just making your cranium bigger at this point.
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I believe Goudy is all natural, dudes like 6'3 or 6'4 and only like 240 right?
Plus I think he's got small joints so he looks bigger than he is.
All around good guy, what's the fuckin problem here?
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But you are missing the point....without decent genetics you couldn't move "heavy weights" and get bigger.
True and even if you had the genetics for strength, it doesn't necessarily mean you have the genetics for size. Case in point, bantamweight and lightweight bodybuilders who can lift as much (or more) as the heavyweight bodybuilders, but aren't anywhere near as big as the latter, even though they may be of the same height and on the same drug stack.
Tbombz started out by saying everyone can get big like Goudy if they lift big weights, genetics or no genetics, and then changed it to "big as in big enough to look like they lift", which isn't really saying anything, lol.
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True and even if you had the genetics for strength, it doesn't necessarily mean you have the genetics for size. Case in point, bantamweight and lightweight bodybuilders who can lift as much (or more) as the heavyweight bodybuilders, but aren't anywhere near as big as the latter, even though they may be of the same height and on the same drug stack.
Tbombz started out by saying everyone can get big like Goudy if they lift big weights, genetics or no genetics, and then changed it to "big as in big enough to look like they lift", which isn't really saying anything, lol.
All true. My old gym, one of the strongest guys there really only looked very avg as far as "size of muscles" and there were a couple of other guys who were huge, but very avg strength.
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gronk/prime cuts, is natural, his bodyfat level reveals this.
he is a man with muscles
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True and even if you had the genetics for strength, it doesn't necessarily mean you have the genetics for size. Case in point, bantamweight and lightweight bodybuilders who can lift as much (or more) as the heavyweight bodybuilders, but aren't anywhere near as big as the latter, even though they may be of the same height and on the same drug stack.
Tbombz started out by saying everyone can get big like Goudy if they lift big weights, genetics or no genetics, and then changed it to "big as in big enough to look like they lift", which isn't really saying anything, lol.
Tdizzle doesn't believe in genetics, just low and high dosages of hormonas, and deep tissue massages in the corn-hole.
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All true. My old gym, one of the strongest guys there really only looked very avg as far as "size of muscles" and there were a couple of other guys who were huge, but very avg strength.
Yep. Look at Paul Dillett, to give an example - he did half-assed workouts with light weights on mostly machines and cables, but was a LOT bigger than guys like Shawn Ray who lifted heavier and did a lot more free weight exercises.
It's one thing to say you can build some muscle if you lift heavy (and take drugs, or not) no matter what your genetics, but another thing altogether to say everyone can be big if they lift heavy. Lots of guys lift heavy but never get big, or at least as big as the one that are genetically gifted for size can get.
Same goes for strength or any other ability - there is always a variation in genetic capacity, which puts the elites above the majority.
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Groink claims to be natural.
I say BULLSHIT.
Hmmm....after studying all the facts of the matter, performing in-depth analyses, and many hours of careful deliberation, I've come to the following conclusion.
BlackFagRedStar = dick-sucking, pansy, twink, attention whore, that is jealous of Groink.
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Hmmm....after studying all the facts of the matter, performing in-depth analyses, and many hours of careful deliberation, I've come to the following conclusion.
BlackFagRedStar = dick-sucking, pansy, twink, attention whore, that is jealous of Groink.
OK. Here's a picture of me chilling back home in Osaka.
(http://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/fat-man-on-trolley.jpg)
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OK. Here's a picture of me chilling back home in Osaka.
(http://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/fat-man-on-trolley.jpg)
Lemme guess....."a calorie is a calorie"?
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Lemme guess....."a calorie is a calorie"?
;D
What are you talking about??? I'm at 8% right there. All natural.
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OK. Here's a picture of me chilling back home in Osaka.
(http://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/fat-man-on-trolley.jpg)
Now, that's a huge melon. Cripes.
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Now, that's a huge melon. Cripes.
That gent is gonna be late for his sumo match.
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That gent is gonna be late for his sumo match.
LOL! Onlymeat could rock this thing like a baby.
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This thread has potential :D
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This thread has potential :D
Indeed
Lot of guys filled with jealousy
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Ok fellas, y'all is right when you say dat there are some exceptionally strong small fellas around, but the question is... How do these small and exceptionally strong fellas get bigger muscles? Well, they get bigger muscles by training with greater and greater training loads. It doesn't matter if he is big but not so strong, and that he is strong but not so big, what matter is..... THE ONLY WAY TO GET BIGGER MUSCLES IS TO TRAIN WITH GREATER AND GREATER TRAININH LOADS. If I have a 20 inch arm, but I can only curl with 40 pounders for 10 reps, and then I work my way up to 80 pounders, then I WILL HAVE BIGGER ARMS. Saying that someone is big but isn't so strong is totally irrelavant, because THE ONLY WAY FOR THIS BIG FELLA TO GET EVEN BIGGER IS BY USING BIGGER TRAINING LOADS.
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Ok fellas, y'all is right when you say dat there are some exceptionally strong small fellas around, but the question is... How do these small and exceptionally strong fellas get bigger muscles? Well, they get bigger muscles by training with greater and greater training loads. It doesn't matter if he is big but not so strong, and that he is strong but not so big, what matter is..... THE ONLY WAY TO GET BIGGER MUSCLES IS TO TRAIN WITH GREATER AND GREATER TRAININH LOADS. If I have a 20 inch arm, but I can only curl with 40 pounders for 10 reps, and then I work my way up to 80 pounders, then I WILL HAVE BIGGER ARMS. Saying that someone is big but isn't so strong is totally irrelavant, because THE ONLY WAY FOR THIS BIG FELLA TO GET EVEN BIGGER IS BY USING BIGGER TRAINING LOADS.
there are no universal laws in bodybuilding....everyone is limited (or blessed) by there own genetics...what works for one will not necessarily work for the other.
i laugh at all of the penis pullers expounding daily and arguing tooth and nail about what 'works" best.
you have to go down your own road.
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What are you talking about??? I'm at 8% right there. All natural.
Me too....I'm on the left.
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To be honest groink, I'm not really sure which training method works the best, although I have my theories (ie Trevor Smiths beyond failure training) but... What does matter is that whatever training method one uses, the ONLY way to gage it's effectiveness is if it allows one to train with greater and greater training loads.
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True and even if you had the genetics for strength, it doesn't necessarily mean you have the genetics for size. Case in point, bantamweight and lightweight bodybuilders who can lift as much (or more) as the heavyweight bodybuilders, but aren't anywhere near as big as the latter, even though they may be of the same height and on the same drug stack.
Tbombz started out by saying everyone can get big like Goudy if they lift big weights, genetics or no genetics, and then changed it to "big as in big enough to look like they lift", which isn't really saying anything, lol.
Matt claims he is the 9th strongest "man" ( oh brother ) in his city of 100,000 ... so according to tbombz he should be big ? ... at his size ( his form is awful )it doesn't seem he should be able to lift more than 200 max using appearance as a guide
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anybody who can lift as much as goudy can will be pretty fucking big. not ifbb/top npc size muscles, but real big muscles nonetheless.
Explain MattC
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Me too....I'm on the left.
;D
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there are no universal laws in bodybuilding....everyone is limited (or blessed) by there own genetics...what works for one will not necessarily work for the other.
i laugh at all of the penis pullers expounding daily and arguing tooth and nail about what 'works" best.
you have to go down your own road.
IMO, you can tell that this kind of post is from someone with REAL experience in the gym even if you don't know how groinks looks. Unlike those gurus that are arguing all day in the internet about nutrition and training thinking there is a universal rule to get big. "A calorie is a calorie, progressive overload, all steroids are the same, people who grow are dumb"... ah ::)
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I used to be a lot stronger than I am right now. And at that time my bodyweight and body fat % was exactly the same as it is now. My muscles seemed more "dense" though.
Strength and size do not have a direct correlation. You can have small muscles and still be very strong, or vice versa.
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Thanks for all the kind words folks!
I do believe that gear makes a guge difference between
1. nattie eating wella nd training well and
2. a user eating well and training well.
Results will be like night and day.
I do have small joints and am tall. Relatively tiny hips and broad shoulders all add to the illusion.
Size does not alwatys = strength and vice versa. leverage etc plays a large part. E.g bench press. Also the way weight is moved plays a part big ballistic synergistic movements like the C+P will create strongh strong lifters but not necessarily the biggest muscles.
I train kinda for both. 6-12 rep range and try to lift heavy as I can for man reps also trying to progress in some way each and every week. Be it doingh a set easier ro getting more reps or weight.
Once again ty for some very kind words
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"Trying to progress in some way each week" Viola folks! Dat right there IS PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD ;D
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Matt claims he is the 9th strongest "man" ( oh brother ) in his city of 100,000 ... so according to tbombz he should be big ? ... at his size ( his form is awful )it doesn't seem he should be able to lift more than 200 max using appearance as a guide
that's a ugly ass deadlift
no offence matt
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there are no universal laws in bodybuilding....everyone is limited (or blessed) by there own genetics...what works for one will not necessarily work for the other.
i laugh at all of the penis pullers expounding daily and arguing tooth and nail about what 'works" best.
you have to go down your own road.
thats no shit.....what works for me damn sure doesnt work for a lot of people...but i had to figure that out myself....i think thats what is wrong with a lot of people who cant gain...they let the mental part fuck them over...
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Jesus, you have to get stronger to grow, what else are you supposed to do, get weaker?
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This guy is all natural too, adrain a member on here
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=291169.0;attach=334446;image)
It just so happens that we have some of the greatest naturals of all time on this board, I am honored to be here.
could be natural though due to lack of delts...a black guy on juice with no shoulders is pretty hard to do
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Jesus, you have to get stronger to grow, what else are you supposed to do, get weaker?
(http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/cpayne/2006/06/05/charlie-sigh-769156.jpg)
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could be natural though due to lack of delts...a black guy on juice with no shoulders is pretty hard to do
lack of delts? time for new contacts ???
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lack of delts? time for new contacts ???
. its a distinct look. I just dont think this dude is on alot of gear. Typical AAS with good response.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=323648.0;attach=362242;image)
Huge arms...
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I don’t have any sound on this computer. I can only imagine what this attention whore/drama queen is going on about.
Hopefully he’s rambling on about his latest diet strategy.
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Matt claims he is the 9th strongest "man" ( oh brother ) in his city of 100,000 ... so according to tbombz he should be big ? ... at his size ( his form is awful )it doesn't seem he should be able to lift more than 200 max using appearance as a guide
two main points:
Matt c uses horrible form. In order for a muscle to get big the muscle has to do the work. If your joints and tendons and momentum are all doing the majority of the work, then your muscles won't grow much at all. Not to mention that 1rep max is only one gauge of strength. If someone has a very big one rep max, but can't rep out a moderate weight for shit, they won't have nearly as big of muscles as if they were able to rep that one rep max weight several times.
Secondly, Matt c might not be big by getbig standards, but he is a lot bigger than when he first started lifting, and bigger than the average male athlete as well.
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I don’t have any sound on this computer. I can only imagine what this attention whore/drama queen is going on about.
Hopefully he’s rambling on about his latest diet strategy.
whomever that was he was talking about some grandiose friend of his who's a bigshot.
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Matt claims he is the 9th strongest "man" ( oh brother ) in his city of 100,000 ... so according to tbombz he should be big ? ... at his size ( his form is awful )it doesn't seem he should be able to lift more than 200 max using appearance as a guide
Hi Matt.. you're not fooling anyone bro...
As sad as puppies being put in the grinder... see through..
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Jesus, you have to get stronger to grow, what else are you supposed to do, get weaker?
In the past 3 months i've grown and put on soe fullness but my strength has pretty much stayed the same.
Nothin is certain. Anything can happen.
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In the past 3 months i've grown and put on soe fullness but my strength has pretty much stayed the same.
Nothin is certain. Anything can happen.
What you'll find is that your strength is an eventual prerequisite to size. However gains are not linear and these strength and size gains don't corroborate exactly, but they have a close relationship . But the two are indicators of responding positively to training stress.
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Hi Matt.. you're not fooling anyone bro...
As sad as puppies being put in the grinder... see through..
The amount of FAT you are carrying really does affect your brain .. not to mention how much the ALCOHOL you suck up affects your mental state of EPIC delusion
puppies eh ? ... didn't you USED to have a dog ?
Why don't you do yourself and your wife a favor ... lose some of your lard and pay more attention to the REAL world instead of obsessing about your imaginary kingdom .. maybe then you can have a good healthy relationship with SOMEONE who is not on your computer monitor
You are the epitome of a FAT FAGGY FRENCH FUCKWIT :D Congrats !!
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Hey blackflag, are you absolutely certain that your "fullness" is the result of pure lean muscle tissue? Not hating bro, but it would be much more valid if you could back up this statement with evidence ie photos, accurate measurements of bodyweight, bodyfat, etc
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In the past 3 months i've grown and put on soe fullness but my strength has pretty much stayed the same.
Nothin is certain. Anything can happen.
No matter what the subject this douchebag troll HAS to put in his "yeah, me too" 2 cents in
you could be talking about Hearing Aids and there is BFRS...."Yeah.....I used to have one"...or..."I'm gonna get that soon"
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No matter what the subject this douchebag troll HAS to put in his "yeah, me too" 2 cents in
you could be talking about Hearing Aids and there is BFRS...."Yeah.....I used to have one"...or..."I'm gonna get that soon"
Gear or not you're one sexy biotch!
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Gear or not you're one sexy biotch!
Drunk already baby ?? ;D
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No matter what the subject this douchebag troll HAS to put in his "yeah, me too" 2 cents in
you could be talking about Hearing Aids and there is BFRS...."Yeah.....I used to have one"...or..."I'm gonna get that soon"
Prime Cuts, be glad you have now been inducted into the infamous club of those who have had threads started about their natural status. These inductees include: Myesone, Mesomorph78, Adrian, Alex23, Alexxx, Leafy_Bug, and now you...
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Drunk already baby ?? ;D
Sometimes the nights just roll into the days...
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Prime Cuts, be glad you have now been inducted into the infamous club of those who have had threads started about their natural status. These inductees include: Myesone, Mesomorph78, Adrian, Alex23, Alexxx, Leafy_Bug, and now you...
;D 8)
gotta come up with a nick for you.......how about "Positively Black"....too negative ?
"Thelonius X" :P ???......I'll come up with something ;D
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;D 8)
gotta come up with a nick for you.......how about "Positively Black"....too negative ?
"Thelonius X" :P ???......I'll come up with something ;D
Ahhahaha, I like Thelonius X, funny, but I used to go by PeterParkerSpiderman on here...
Teddy P?
Funny...
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Ahhahaha, I like Thelonius X, funny, but I used to go by PeterParkerSpiderman on here...
Teddy P?
Funny...
How bout P-Funk ?
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How bout P-Funk ?
"Atomic Dog" ??
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Prime Cuts, be glad you have now been inducted into the infamous club of those who have had threads started about their natural status. These inductees include: Myesone, Mesomorph78, Adrian, Alex23, Alexxx, Leafy_Bug, and now you...
actually I got one of those threads aswell, but without the doubt of me being unnatural ;D
secondly it's funny how wiggs called doink out 3 times here to post shirtless pics but doink avoids the posts.. and no I don't care to see'em,, i'm JUST saying, and it only means doink is not comfortable taking those shirtless pics... he will use the same pic everytime time after time ::)
atleast wiggs admits that he won't take shirtless pics of himself right now because he's not where he wants to be yet, that's honesty, one faced approach to reality... but that was like couple of weeks ago, i don't know what his progress in his training/diet is now... how is your diet wiggs?
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Groink is a natural beast .
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So now it seems dat we have 2 extemely gifted fellas dat can gain lean muscle tissue WITHOUT increasing training loads ::) Hi Che ;D
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So now it seems dat we have 2 extemely gifted fellas dat can gain lean muscle tissue WITHOUT increasing training loads ::) Hi Che ;D
By your own admission you don't know much about lifting ,Hi DJ.
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actually I got one of those threads aswell, but without the doubt of me being unnatural ;D
secondly it's funny how wiggs called doink out 3 times here to post shirtless pics but doink avoids the posts.. and no I don't care to see'em,, i'm JUST saying, and it only means doink is not comfortable taking those shirtless pics... he will use the same pic everytime time after time ::)
atleast wiggs admits that he won't take shirtless pics of himself right now because he's not where he wants to be yet, that's honesty, one faced approach to reality... but that was like couple of weeks ago, i don't know what his progress in his training/diet is now... how is your diet wiggs?
I don't take requests you little turd....because someone "calls me out" I am somehow obligated to respond ??
i don't start thread after thread about myself, the gear i'm taking and the great shape i'm "gonna" be in like Wiggs does...and i didn't start this thread either you fucking idiot. how am i being "two-faced" ::) ::)
I get that you don't like me and all...but geezus at least try and make some fucking sense ;)
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True dat! But on a serious note, how do you account for your increased muscle size WITHOUT increased workloads? Was it by adding more volume? Working harder? P.S. I really do believe dat "working harder" plays a HUGE ROLE with regards to creating bigger muscles
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Ok fellas, y'all is right when you say dat there are some exceptionally strong small fellas around, but the question is... How do these small and exceptionally strong fellas get bigger muscles? Well, they get bigger muscles by training with greater and greater training loads. It doesn't matter if he is big but not so strong, and that he is strong but not so big, what matter is..... THE ONLY WAY TO GET BIGGER MUSCLES IS TO TRAIN WITH GREATER AND GREATER TRAININH LOADS. If I have a 20 inch arm, but I can only curl with 40 pounders for 10 reps, and then I work my way up to 80 pounders, then I WILL HAVE BIGGER ARMS. Saying that someone is big but isn't so strong is totally irrelavant, because THE ONLY WAY FOR THIS BIG FELLA TO GET EVEN BIGGER IS BY USING BIGGER TRAINING LOADS.
your fucking stupid, i could use 30lbs dumbells for curls and will always have bigger arms than you. weight does not build bigger muscles.
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True dat! But on a serious note, how do you account for your increased muscle size WITHOUT increased workloads? Was it by adding more volume? Working harder? P.S. I really do believe dat "working harder" plays a HUGE ROLE with regards to creating bigger muscles
Working out consistently and eating right.
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Who gives a flying fuck if you have bigger arms than me curling 30 pounders. The question is: How do YOU get your arms even bigger? So what you have bigger arms than me, that' NOT THE POINT, einstein
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I don't take requests you little turd....because someone "calls me out" I am somehow obligated to respond ??
i don't start thread after thread about myself, the gear i'm taking and the great shape i'm "gonna" be in like Wiggs does...and i didn't start this thread either you fucking idiot. how am i being "two-faced" ::) ::)
I get that you don't like me and all...but geezus at least try and make some fucking sense ;)
what nonsense I was spewing ::)?
Wiggs even said natural/not natural doesn't matter, he just asked for shirtless pics since he's a fan of bodybuilding like you, but you went pale when he asked them. He didn't request them, he asked for them, and so did few others, what nonsense is there :D
you're much like salvator and I, we like to post side pics of ourselves because it gives an illusion of a bigger/better physique but I have also posted a front pic couple a weeks ago because pellius asked me... no problem, why not.
And you, you have the big muscle worship theme going on in your life so you would be embarrased if you showed how you really looked without a shirt and not flexing at all.
fairy
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Who gives a flying fuck if you have bigger arms than me curling 30 pounders. The question is: How do YOU get your arms even bigger? So what you have bigger arms than me, that' NOT THE POINT, einstein
How come you are not talking like a guy all the sudden :D
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Coz dis is serious business pour moi ;) And now my Germanic analytical percision mode has surfaced ;D
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yes.....these are "side pics"....you are the dumbest human being on the planet....they should study you to see what kind of genetic "perfect storm" had to occur to manifest so much idiocy in one brain.
do you ever make sense. ??
also....you never answered why i am being "two-faced" ....moron
I never said that, get some reading comprehension ::)
i said that ME AND SALVATOR post side pics... because we look good in those.
and THEN i said,
you post FRONT DOUBLE BICEP pose wearing a shirt because that's all you got. And the shirt gives the illusion that you are leaner than what you rly are... sleeveless bb contests don't exist..
However, I have also posted front pic like two weeks ago and not flexing.... I only guess you don't leave any benefit of a doubt for looking good if you just plain posted a receant pic, like right now... ::)... how many decades have getbig seen those pics of urs?
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I never said that, get some reading comprehension ::)
i said that ME AND SALVATOR post side pics... because we look good in those.
and THEN i said,
you post FRONT DOUBLE BICEP pose wearing a shirt because that's all you got.
However, I have also posted front pic like two weeks ago and not flexing.... I only guess you don't leave any benefit of a doubt for looking good if you just plaine posted a receant pic, like right now... ::)
i posted a shirtless, unflexed pic 8 months ago...it's common knowledge.
Again...i don't take requests, and i don't feel challenged or threatened in the slightest by your attempt to "shame" me into posting a pic.
who the fuck are you again, that i am going to take a pic because you want me to ::)
PS...my avatar is a month old you fucking idiot
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i posted a shirtless, unflexed pic 8 months ago...it's common knowledge.
Again...i don't take requests, and i don't feel challenged or threatened in the slightest by your attempt to "shame" me into posting a pic.
who the fuck are you again, that i am going to take a pic because you want me to ::)
8 months ago, so it's a fair game to say almost a year ago... I knew it... endlesly recycled pictures, just like wiggs said. Obviously not a common knowledge when nobody here remembers those pics ::)
don't you whanna smack the "haters and doubters" in the face with your 8 months improved physique ::).... prolly have that 30% fat layer bulk going on, that's why you are so upset now. Like I said, so many here claim the shirt gives an illusion of what's not there, a big ripped/lean physique.
we don't care to see zoomed in close up nipple shots... post a clear shot from a distance. You can censur your butt ugly face, I don't care to see that... though I never have a problem to post face pics here too, I'm not a pussy.
Good night... i come here to make you cry again later 8)
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8 months ago, so it's a fair game to say almost a year ago... I knew it... endlesly recycled pictures, just like wiggs said. Obviously not a common knowledge when nobody here remembers those pics ::)
don't you whanna smack the "haters and doubters" in the face with your 8 months improved physique ::).... prolly have that 30% fat layer bulk going on, that's why you are so upset now. Like I said, so many here claim the shirt gives an illusion of what's not there, a big ripped/lean physique.
we don't care to see zoomed in close up nipple shots... post a clear shot from a distance. You can censur your butt ugly face, I don't care to see that... though I never have a problem to post face pics here too, I'm not a pussy.
LOLOL....yeah i'm real upset that "AnalSmile' ....the devil worshiping, idiot virgin doesn't like me so he's putting down my physique and calling me fat. no one's ever done that before ::)
Again....fuck you and your picture request....i think you are an asshole, why would i do something you wanted ?
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How anybody can look at Groinks avatar and think "yeah, thats just a fat guy" is beyond me. He looks WORLDS better than 90% of the people posting on here and ALL of the ones criticizing him.
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who the fuck are you again, that i am going to take a pic because you want me to ::)
He's some faggy, woman-hating, Satan worshiping (fucking hardcore, by the way) douche bag. You should definitely bow before his omnipotent presence. ::)
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How anybody can look at Groinks avatar and think "yeah, thats just a fat guy" is beyond me. He looks WORLDS better than 90% of the people posting on here and ALL of the ones criticizing him.
How can anybody care about how he looks so much as to ask for pics or if he is natural or not is beyond me.
::) Demanding him to posta pic.... lol
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How can anybody care about how he looks so much as to ask for pics or if he is natural or not is beyond me.
::) Demanding him to posta pic.... lol
Very true. but always prefaced with "i don't give a fuuuck, but post some pics...." :-\
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Upping the volume over a specific period of time in specific manner works for me :D
Other than that - I have seen no real improvements.
A higher rep phase(lower tonnage) after a lower rep one(with higher tonnage) often helps in size because of nutrient growth and super compensation.
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Groink was SharmOWNED on this a while ago.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=323926.0;attach=362760;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=279980.0;attach=319753;image)
And yet you look these pictures like a nice in shape guy but hardly that you lift any weight at all.
Suddenly, at 44 you swell up with big bloat belly and water retention swelling and get these big guns of yours. All the time when your natural hormone output is dwindling.
No need to hide, you have little stickman arms here for most of your life and then they get bigger at 44. Sorry Groink, I like you and I myself think using steroids is perfectly acceptable and normal for experienced trainer but you fool no one.
Groink himself has admitted to an addiction to rec drugs. He even posted about his friend dropping a vial of cocaine in a bank. Do you really believe this guy takes everything under the sun except steroids and gets 20 inch arms naturally when his hormone levels are dwiddling?
Jesus, some of you are so dumb and naive that it's laughable.
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Groink was SharmOWNED on this a while ago.
Groink himself has admitted to an addiction to rec drugs. He even posted about his friend dropping a vial of cocaine in a bank. Do you really believe this guy takes everything under the sun except steroids and gets 20 inch arms naturally when his hormone levels are dwiddling?
Jesus, some of you are so dumb and naive that it's laughable.
Oh, the irony....
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I never said that, get some reading comprehension ::)
i said that ME AND SALVATOR post side pics... because we look good in those.
and THEN i said,
you post FRONT DOUBLE BICEP pose wearing a shirt because that's all you got. And the shirt gives the illusion that you are leaner than what you rly are... sleeveless bb contests don't exist..
However, I have also posted front pic like two weeks ago and not flexing.... I only guess you don't leave any benefit of a doubt for looking good if you just plain posted a receant pic, like right now... ::)... how many decades have getbig seen those pics of urs?
You're skinny....hope this helps!
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Lol!!!
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your fucking stupid, i could use 30lbs dumbells for curls and will always have bigger arms than you. weight does not build bigger muscles.
epic_asshole still consistently bringing the stupid to GetBig. When are you going to post a pic of that 225lbs "with abs" physique you keep bragging about. And please, don't include the fake cock you stuffed in your thong back in the day when you had a schmoe sponsor and a full head of hair.
Fucktard!
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How can anybody care about how he looks so much as to ask for pics or if he is natural or not is beyond me.
::) Demanding him to posta pic.... lol
Jealousy..... Plain and simple
If he was a fat and small no one would care..
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How bout P-Funk ?
Make my Funk The P-Funk, cause I like to get Funked Up...
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How can anybody care about how he looks so much as to ask for pics or if he is natural or not is beyond me.
::) Demanding him to posta pic.... lol
Because this is a bodybuilding board. When someone starts a thread announcing he has pics look at the number of views it gets. Everyone, including you, flocks to that thread.
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Lol at this thread ;D
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Thanks for the answer bruce, but I have a question in regards to your post, which is: Did your training loads for both the low and high rep phases increase?
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Thanks for the answer bruce, but I have a question in regards to your post, which is: Did your training loads for both the low and high rep phases increase?
Checking Aceto's thread on Rx and thought of you. :D He puts it simply.
The bottom line is
1) Muscle respond to the weight u use. #1 way to cause real muscle fiber recruitment is by using heavy (er) weights...more so then "volume"
2) thge more volume u do, the less weights u can use
3) re read 1 and 2
4) that means there is a point of diminishing returns when it comes to volume. "More" is probably not better
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Some people train in similar ways to me yet do not get my size. Others get bigger training the same way.
A lot I believe is diet. Obviously we have genetic dispositions etc to size but some people really do not rest or eat enough. I also do not drink so that gives me a headstart on some people also.
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Groink was SharmOWNED on this a while ago.
Groink himself has admitted to an addiction to rec drugs. He even posted about his friend dropping a vial of cocaine in a bank. Do you really believe this guy takes everything under the sun except steroids and gets 20 inch arms naturally when his hormone levels are dwiddling?
Jesus, some of you are so dumb and naive that it's laughable.
Another one of my nut huggers emerges. ....I really should start charging to post here
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Thanks for dat post van ;) As you probably already know, I'm quite keen on dat 1st point ;D
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X2
X3.
who fucking cares.....it's not like i'm Croatch and make an asshole out of myself preaching the NATURAL gospel every day......i really dont even talk about drugs and training that much
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X3.
who fucking cares.....it's not like i'm Croatch and make an asshole out of myself preaching the NATURAL gospel every day......i really dont even talk about drugs and training that much
Does that mean that you are admitting that you are on gear?
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Does that mean that you are admitting that you are on gear?
No.....where do i even come close to saying that ?
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No.....where do i even come close to saying that ?
We all know what's up. No more lies please.
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your fucking stupid, i could use 30lbs dumbells for curls and will always have bigger arms than you. weight does not build bigger muscles.
Heavy weight builds denser muscles. You can't get the extreme muscle density by say, curling little 30lb dumbells.
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We all know what's up. No more lies please.
LOL.....so now you're an "expert"....
Funny for someone who thinks BBing is for "assholes" you sure are pretty interested in what drugs people take, different types of training...etc. ;)
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LOL.....so now you're an "expert"....
Funny for someone who thinks BBing is for "assholes" you sure are pretty interested in what drugs people take, different types of training...etc. ;)
Bodybuilding isn't for assholes. Lots of assholes just tend to be into bodybuilding. But of course that's not 100%.
Lots of cool people are into bodybuilding. But there is definitely that "typical" bodybuilder douche you see over and over again. Different face, same mindset.
I am a guru of bodybuilding, and I am an expert of the highest calibur. I like the keep up and see what the kids and amatuers these days are doing.
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Thanks for the answer bruce, but I have a question in regards to your post, which is: Did your training loads for both the low and high rep phases increase?
1. Beware - I haven't posted a pic yet.
2. Exercise form must be smooth - this can't go on forever because of physical limitations, but making a weight(e.g. last/peak set of squats) only by nearly shitting yourself does not really count. This greatly reduces the possibility of unlimited linear progress in the form of pyramiding up. Your skeletal structure is in many cases a deciding factor on how well you can load your muscles.
Spy on titty people(petite structure) in gym trying to use big weights(e.g. bench in the 240+ range) - a tragedy of movement. Compare to someone like Cutler, a large framed dude who has the goods to be big and strong.
3. Yes - always increase, but always mini-mini, controlled fashion(like in a 5x5 derivative) + log book.
One of the biggest mistakes I made for years on end was using a fantasy weight, adding like 40 pound a workout and stopping after 3 workouts to reset to the old weight... practically making no progress.
Once you bomb out of a training cycle(due to no time, injury or stupidity) you have to restart.
After a while and many failed attempts or misses you realize that you can realistically progress as much as you're willing to put work in and your genes allow you - BUT time waits for no one and better be doing the right thing while your body is still capable of it... the sky isn't the limit for one can "only" improve on what one initially has always been.
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Ok blackflag, I you are a training guru, then please tell me how one can build bigger muscles? I'm lost man ::) P.S. Not hating, but I liked you better when you created your non-bodybuilding related posts, such as "Have you ever gone homeless?" lol Now dat was a CLASSIC post ;D
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Ok blackflag, I you are a training guru, then please tell me how one can build bigger muscles? I'm lost man ::) P.S. Not hating, but I liked you better when you created your non-bodybuilding related posts, such as "Have you ever gone homeless?" lol Now dat was a CLASSIC post ;D
If you want bigger muscles. Lift heavy weights often. Eat lots of food.
The guru has spoken.
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If you want bigger muscles. Lift heavy weights often. Eat lots of food.
The guru has spoken.
What if I skip the "lifting weights" part but post about it on the internet?
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Well ma man, da 1st part of yo answer was correct, but not da second part ;) If one eats alot of food, then they will become a fat toad
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Well ma man, da 1st part of yo answer was correct, but not da second part ;) If one eats alot of food, then they will become a fat toad
You just gotta eat the right foods.
Not stuff yourself, but get a solid diet with lots of fruits, vegetables, all the vitamins you need.
I'm not talking about a nasty bullking diet. Just a solid balanced diet.
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Bodybuilding isn't for assholes. Lots of assholes just tend to be into bodybuilding. But of course that's not 100%.
Lots of cool people are into bodybuilding. But there is definitely that "typical" bodybuilder douche you see over and over again. Different face, same mindset.
I am a guru of bodybuilding, and I am an expert of the highest calibur. I like the keep up and see what the kids and amatuers these days are doing.
You see.....when you do it, it isn't funny. That what you don't get
You may as well type "I am an asshole and no one likes me "
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"I am an asshole and no one likes me "
Yes you are right about that.
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prime cuts is natural, leave him alone
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I would hope so. He's 6'4..I believe Ursus is a natty but he looks like a guy with a good natty physique that happens to be tall...BUT a guy like Sean Allen who is also 6'4 and juiced to the gills is much more impressive than Ursus...If they were standing next to each other, Ursus wouldn't get a second look.That's no offense to him but more a nod to the power of PEDs.
In the mainstream people are not in to that level of development. The reason you are looking at it from a flawed perspective is because you are a schmoe Wiggs... ;)
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You can get down on the floor and suck my cock with that mouth boy.
Nothing gay there.
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Actually I like you for some reason ShipSekki (no homo), you always stirr some shit up and you are liberal about drugs and shit, good man, with a big mouth. ;D
Thank you very much brother. You are a wise man who sees the truth.
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In the mainstream people are not in to that level of development. The reason you are looking at it from a flawed perspective is because you are a schmoe Wiggs... ;)
I'm a lot of things sir, but I am no schmoe >:(
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blackfag does bring the funny if u dont take him too serious. the thread on fat chicks had me laughin my ass off ;D
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blackfag does bring the funny if u dont take him too serious. the thread on fat chicks had me laughin my ass off ;D
You could've done "LMAO" and we still would've known what ya meant.
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Too bad Groink wasn't around for Vietnam.....11 pages in and he's still winning the hearts and minds.
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Because this is a bodybuilding board. When someone starts a thread announcing he has pics look at the number of views it gets. Everyone, including you, flocks to that thread.
Speak for yourself, but I never 'flock' into a thread because someone announces he has pics. The reason I 'flocked' into this thread and the reason I 'flock' into most threads here is because of the funny comments and good laughs they provide mostly.
Unlike you I didn't come into this thread to look at groink's pics or ask him to post any, who cares anyway.
You should also stop posting your pics too much, not a pleasant sight.
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Too bad Groink wasn't around for Vietnam.....11 pages in and he's still winning the hearts and minds.
"This isn't Vietnam dude, there are rules here".
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Given the fact that pictures can add bulk, being pumped, angle, good genetics, permabulker, Groink could have been natural albeit a very gifted natural. Problem being those pictures from when he was what mid thirties? Show a guy that really isn't anywhere near the level of development that he is at now, at an age where he would have zero test and his potential would be limited, it's very telling.
Not Natty...
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How's the training going Jamie, are you still training each muscle 3x a week? I ain't hating man, I'm just curious. And by da way, I've been training push every 48 to 72 hours with decent results. But, I'm keeping with once every 6 to 8 days for legs and back, coz they just don't respond to more frequent training.
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How's the training going Jamie, are you still training each muscle 3x a week? I ain't hating man, I'm just curious. And by da way, I've been training push every 48 to 72 hours with decent results. But, I'm keeping with once every 6 to 8 days for legs and back, coz they just don't respond to more frequent training.
Yeah still three times a week, i feel like i'm being lazy otherwise :-\ I'm making a lot of strength gains but not a great deal of size. My diet is terrible at the moment so i need to rectify that, also i am naturally very small boned so i generally gain mass quite slow anyway.
It's fine at the moment as i need to stay within a certain weight range, so just adding quality lean muscle in certain places is good at the moment.
Good to hear that your routine is going well. :)
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That's cool ma man! If you keep getting stronger and stronger, then you will eventually add some lean muscle on yo frame ;D
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haha of course he s on steroids. What do you morons think. Fits the character well.
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"This isn't Vietnam dude, there are rules here".
'Mark it zero, Smoky.'
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So maybe we should start calling blackflag "The Wizard of Truth" 8)
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"This isn't Vietnam dude, there are rules here".
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules"
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Doink is natural
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Another one of my nut huggers emerges. ....I really should start charging to post here
Is that photo that Huge Al posted you?
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Why in the blue hell is this thread still going on?
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Is that photo that Huge Al posted you?
Top one is 95.....bottom is 2003...I look fucking GOOD ;)
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I disagree. People are impressed by size and low bf period...If they were impressed by the fact that wasn't taken, natural bodybuilding would be alot more popular than IFBB bodybuilding and natural bodybuilding isn't even 100% natural. Alot more Powerlifting events would be tested...It's the next step in the evolutionary chain, we're driving cars you are defending horse and carriages and overstating the dangers of PEDs.
"Fans" are impressed, but people, i.e., the general public, are not. People know that sans dope, these genetic marvels are anything but. Fans don't want testing, they don't want their artificial heroes exposed and that's in spite of the fact they already know that they're full of drugs.
Another subset of those that are impressed would be the group that also uses PEDs and therefor feels the need to justify their own useage. This would include the oft maligned "gym rat". That group of fans that will most likely never compete but wants to be more than their own genetics and efforts can accommodate and takes PEDs on a far more restricted basis than do their cardboard heroes.
And by the way, Groink is what, 45? 46? He's just a kid. And lay off the height thing, young man. 5' 6" is not short. Trust me on this one. ;D
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5'6" is almost midget size, dwarf.
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" And lay off the height thing, young man. 5' 6" is not short. Trust me on this one. ;D
Maybe not for swede,but the rest of us...... ;D
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5'6" is almost midget size, dwarf.
Just representin' the lollipop guild, big guy. ;D Someone has to. We've lost our dignity with the likes of Priest. ;)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=323648.0;attach=362242;image)
Best double bi pose I've ever seen!! Including Arnold and Ronnie! Simply breathtaking!!
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Best double bi pose I've ever seen!! Including Arnold and Ronnie! Simply breathtaking!!
2x
Groink = King Armdon
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Au natural!
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Au natural!
Damn, he lost his luscious hair.
So have i due to stress and age!
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Squadfather-esque photo quality
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i never understood what the big deal was....its just some extra shit your body already produces.....if i was on i wouldnt hide it....not saying he is on..i dont know and dont really care....just saying in general..
bench
And dialysis just does what your kidneys do but better....Just a helping hand.
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Damn, he lost his luscious hair.
So have i due to stress and age!
Not lost still there. Just shaved down a little gray and parking lots in the front. I could grow it out, but it's much easier to to just keep it clipped all the way down.
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Damn, he lost his luscious hair.
So have i due to stress and age!
NOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
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Damn, he lost his luscious hair.
So have i due to stress and age!
Thats not groinkk
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Thats not groinkk
Yeah it's me with a legit 18", arm no juice, and older than Groink.
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Yeah it's me with a legit 18", arm no juice, and older than Groink.
Sorry but you're smoked by Groink in every department: arms, delts, lats, pecs, hair....not to mention Groink's matinee idol good looks.
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Sorry but you're smoked by Groink in every department: arms, delts, lats, pecs, hair....not to mention Groink's matinee idol good looks.
THIS!
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I wonder if he got even more jacked in the penitentiary
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Sorry but you're smoked by Groink in every department: arms, delts, lats, pecs, hair....not to mention Groink's matinee idol good looks.
He was real popular with the boys' in the pokey.