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Title: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 18, 2011, 12:53:47 AM
I am so sick of not being able to goto failure on legs in my shitty 24 hour fitness.
(http://www.marathonyouthservices.org/images/Image44.gif)
THey have squat racks sure adn leg sleds but nothing you can goto failure on..

In high school I used the universal leg press which I bet compared to this hammer crap is cheap.

It was freakin awesome!!

the machine also had chin dip staion back chest and military all in 1

if 24 put 5 of those on the gym floor they coudl throw out half thier hammer shit.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: Cableguy on January 18, 2011, 01:01:43 AM
We had one at our HS gym. I remember they had 2 sets of foot pads. If you used the whole stack and pushed from the top pads, you were pushing 450 lbs supposedly. On the bottom pads you were pushing 750 with the whole stack. I used to get that whole machine shaking back and forth!
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 18, 2011, 01:07:28 AM
shit was made from like indestructible metal
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: JasonH on January 18, 2011, 01:15:23 AM
Haha, I remember using one of them the first time I ever set foot in a gym when I was about 13 or 14 years old! I used to set the seat back as far as my legs would stretch and do a brutal 4 inch range of motion with the entire stack and thinking I was the fucking man! Good times.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 18, 2011, 01:22:04 AM
(http://www.memorialhermann.org/uploadedImages/universal.jpg)

hard to find pics of it
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 18, 2011, 01:34:02 AM
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/40/87576260_a53671cdb5.jpg)
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 18, 2011, 01:38:27 AM
(http://www.bellinghamauction.com/photoalbum/2008auctions/3mar08album/mar08photoalbum/UniversalGym.jpg)
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 18, 2011, 01:39:56 AM
nautilus bought rights to it

devious buggers

getting rid of something cheaper and less complex

weirder must have inside reptile deal with them to suppress cheap awesome machines like this

I find other leg press machines hideous.

This thing let you workout alone easily.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: epic_alien on January 18, 2011, 01:48:18 AM
ah yes, i remember that piece of shit. in junior high we had one, it consisted of our entire weight room. more of a ball closet which this thing sat in. i love the customary bar stool you had to sit on while doing military presses or pulldowns. i dont know how they thought that was fucking stable, funny shit though.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: dj181 on January 18, 2011, 04:53:03 AM
The nautilus duo squat was a much better machine, even J. West was a fan of it ;)
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: Hulkotron on January 18, 2011, 05:41:05 AM
I have run into this problem recently as well tallgerman.  The secret is to go to negative failure instead of positive.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: Krankenstein on January 18, 2011, 06:23:11 AM
I am so sick of not being able to goto failure on legs in my shitty 24 hour fitness.

So they dont have a squat rack...or at least a smith machine?
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 18, 2011, 06:25:02 AM

Lookin jacked there bro......what you sittin in there at?  115, 120?

(http://www.marathonyouthservices.org/images/Image44.gif)
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: MB on January 18, 2011, 07:01:33 AM
The Universal bench press and shoulder press stations felt a lot better than the Hammer Strength machines. 
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: JOEBEAST on January 18, 2011, 07:15:41 AM
The Universal bench press and shoulder press stations felt a lot better than the Hammer Strength machines. 
my old gym has both hammer and uni ,the hammer is the way to go
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: kiwiol on January 18, 2011, 07:34:23 AM
You don't need the leg press. Just pair up with a bro and start squatting 8)
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 18, 2011, 07:41:08 AM
You don't need the leg press. Just pair up with a bro and start squatting 8)
Haha, WTF?!
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: dj181 on January 18, 2011, 07:48:00 AM
Not sure if many bros can hang wit ma 185 pound squats ;D
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 18, 2011, 08:52:50 AM
You don't need the leg press. Just pair up with a bro and start squatting 8)

LOL.....WTF?   ;D
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: kiwiol on January 18, 2011, 09:01:26 AM
LOL.....WTF?   ;D

Haha it used to be posted here a lot back around 2005. I think Mars found it, not sure.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 18, 2011, 09:04:31 AM
Haha it used to be posted here a lot back around 2005. I think Mars found it, not sure.


Should have known the great Mars, PBUH, located that gem.....and people wonder why those who don't lift laugh at us.... :-\
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: tom joad on January 18, 2011, 09:07:17 AM
You don't need the leg press. Just pair up with a bro and start squatting 8)

the scary thing is ... this squatting technique might be less gay than the pics of the schmoe spotting Chick squatting.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: newmom on January 18, 2011, 09:09:58 AM
You don't need the leg press. Just pair up with a bro and start squatting 8)

Sure looks like 2 people that post here... :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 18, 2011, 09:29:44 AM
Sure looks like 2 people that post here... :-X :-X :-X

chaos and SS?  :-X




 ;D
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: newmom on January 18, 2011, 09:31:03 AM
chaos and SS?  :-X




 ;D

 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 18, 2011, 09:32:59 AM
:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X



nothing wrong with a couple of bro's doing some buddy-assisted squat-thrusts.....
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: newmom on January 18, 2011, 09:35:01 AM
nothing wrong with a couple of bro's doing some buddy-assisted squat-thrusts.....

true, perhaps they can help Calvin with his squatting issues as of late ;D
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 18, 2011, 09:35:39 AM
true, perhaps they can help Calvin with his squatting issues as of late ;D

 :-X
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 18, 2011, 09:35:44 AM
So they dont have a squat rack...or at least a smith machine?

try going to failure on those, just try
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 18, 2011, 11:03:08 AM
I think I have discovered a glitch in the matrix

Leg machiens are crap compared to old universal sit down leg press to failure.

nothing at 24 hour fitness is any good

all painful to get in and out of

esp for tall fuckers
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: dj181 on January 18, 2011, 11:07:48 AM
Well at least your training til failure, and that's a step in da right direction
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: jwb on January 18, 2011, 01:12:09 PM
You can go to failure on any selectorized leg press.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: dj181 on January 18, 2011, 01:23:17 PM
And one can even go past failure on any given leg press machine, by using the hand to push on the legs to squeeze out a few forced reps.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 18, 2011, 01:31:42 PM
And one can even go past failure on any given leg press machine, by using the hand to push on the legs to squeeze out a few forced reps.
I like doing 1-leg presses and sometimes use the other leg for some extended reps
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: BIG DUB on January 18, 2011, 01:38:43 PM
my gym has that machine and a lot of the old nautilus stuff too.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: Krankenstein on January 18, 2011, 02:29:58 PM
try going to failure on those, just try

I have twink.....  :-*

Try this one time.....slow eccentric on leg press (4 seconds....LEGIT 4 seconds)....8 reps.....then go right to squats for 12 - 15 reps.  Tell me how well your breathing after your first set.  Tell me your legs arent fried after three sets of that.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: dj181 on January 18, 2011, 02:39:26 PM
Shit man! A 4 second postive and 4 second negative on the leg press to failure would be more than enough for me. I seriously doubt that I would even be able to do a bodyweight squat after that torture session lol
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 18, 2011, 02:45:01 PM
I like doing 1-leg presses and sometimes use the other leg for some extended reps

interesting technique
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: Krankenstein on January 18, 2011, 02:47:09 PM
Shit man! A 4 second postive and 4 second negative on the leg press to failure would be more than enough for me. I seriously doubt that I would even be able to do a bodyweight squat after that torture session lol

No four second positive.....I just do a standard explosive type push.  I used 630lbs on the icarian leg press, then only 90lbs/side on one of those squat machines.  Leg press sets were 8,8,8.....the squat machine was 19, 15, and 12 (followed by some nice near vomitting)
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 18, 2011, 03:00:13 PM
I have twink.....  :-*

Try this one time.....slow eccentric on leg press (4 seconds....LEGIT 4 seconds)....8 reps.....then go right to squats for 12 - 15 reps.  Tell me how well your breathing after your first set.  Tell me your legs arent fried after three sets of that.

if you went to failure the bar crush you
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 18, 2011, 03:15:05 PM
interesting technique
I do the same for lying tricep extentions with a single dumbbell. Once I can't make a concentric movement, I use my other arm to push the DB in starting position, and perform a slow(!) negative. 2 to 4 of these extended reps and my tri's are done (read: fried LOL) in less than 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: jaejonna on January 18, 2011, 03:25:26 PM
Lookin jacked there bro......what you sittin in there at?  115, 120?

(http://www.marathonyouthservices.org/images/Image44.gif)
That 'twink' is right up 'Suckmymuscles' alley ...i mean his 'freinds' alley  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: Krankenstein on January 18, 2011, 03:43:04 PM
if you went to failure the bar crush you

Crush me how?  Do it in a rack you dolt!  Do it in a cage.....wow....that was difficult.  Also, do you train to failure on any chest exercises?  How does the bar not end up "crushing" your chest?  I have dumped the bar on a squat TWICE in my whole lifting history. 

Personally....training to absolute failure is over rated.  Try using some sort of intensity techniques.  Geezus you're becoming a huge tool.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: Hulkotron on January 18, 2011, 03:53:00 PM
Tallgerman can you start concluding your posts with a big-boob'ed chick again?
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: w8m8 on January 18, 2011, 04:33:19 PM
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/40/87576260_a53671cdb5.jpg)

these are nice home gyms ... got mine ( mint ) at an auction dirt cheap  :)

(http://i54.tinypic.com/10dw96t.jpg)

(http://i52.tinypic.com/300s7z5.jpg)
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 18, 2011, 05:46:11 PM
I am damn jelous
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 18, 2011, 05:47:20 PM
Crush me how?  Do it in a rack you dolt!  Do it in a cage.....wow....that was difficult.  Also, do you train to failure on any chest exercises?  How does the bar not end up "crushing" your chest?  I have dumped the bar on a squat TWICE in my whole lifting history. 

Personally....training to absolute failure is over rated.  Try using some sort of intensity techniques.  Geezus you're becoming a huge tool.

I dont bench alone I have partner or use machine or db

just making my point don't get excited

Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: dj181 on January 19, 2011, 05:19:10 AM
How much weight do you use in the db bench press? My PR is 100*6 WEST>bird
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: Krankenstein on January 19, 2011, 05:31:38 AM
I dont bench alone I have partner or use machine or db

just making my point don't get excited


Exactly...you use a spotter.  Try using one on your squats...or perhaps you should try doing something besides the crappy leg press.  There are plenty of those out there....so do something else...or find a new gym.  When was the last time you ever got close to failure on squats?  My guess is never.  Getting close to failure on leg press is no where close to doing so on squats.  HTH
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: Ropo on January 19, 2011, 06:54:06 AM
I am so sick of not being able to goto failure on legs in my shitty 24 hour fitness.
(http://www.marathonyouthservices.org/images/Image44.gif)
THey have squat racks sure adn leg sleds but nothing you can goto failure on..
In high school I used the universal leg press which I bet compared to this hammer crap is cheap.
It was freakin awesome!!
the machine also had chin dip staion back chest and military all in 1
if 24 put 5 of those on the gym floor they coudl throw out half thier hammer shit.
You love it because you are used to do leg presses with 2" range of motion with it, and same weight even with the same r.o.m is hard to you with sledge press. That press is toy for the living room gyms, not for serious gym. Learn to use the sledge press, even if you have to use 70% less weight with it. 
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: Ropo on January 19, 2011, 07:05:49 AM
I am damn jelous
(http://www.mayors.fi/wp-content/gallery/kuvia-salilta/229f6150.jpg)

This would be good to you. This is called "attitude press".  It's sledge weight 616lb, and you can fit 48 x 55lb plates on it  ;D
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 19, 2011, 08:31:51 AM
(http://www.mayors.fi/wp-content/gallery/kuvia-salilta/229f6150.jpg)

This would be good to you. This is called "attitude press".  It's sledge weight 616lb, and you can fit 48 x 55lb plates on it  ;D
Damn, that stuff looks like solid to the max.
What kind of machine is this?
(http://www.mayors.fi/wp-content/gallery/kuvia-salilta/229f6135.jpg)
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 19, 2011, 08:34:15 AM
(http://www.mayors.fi/wp-content/gallery/kuvia-salilta/229f6150.jpg)

This would be good to you. This is called "attitude press".  It's sledge weight 616lb, and you can fit 48 x 55lb plates on it  ;D

don't like this one, can't go failure or crushed
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 19, 2011, 08:37:21 AM
no
1 can train to failure
2 can get in n out relatively easy
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 19, 2011, 08:38:24 AM
You can go to failure on any selectorized leg press.

no you can't

try it

legs get crushed
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: dj181 on January 19, 2011, 08:57:02 AM
Yes you can, use you hands to push on your legs to get the weight back up to rack. Then you can get out of the machine after hitting failure.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: jwb on January 20, 2011, 02:17:41 PM
Damn, that stuff looks like solid to the max.
What kind of machine is this?
(http://www.mayors.fi/wp-content/gallery/kuvia-salilta/229f6135.jpg)
FLEX kneeling leg curl
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: JOEBEAST on January 20, 2011, 04:24:19 PM
damm ,soo much machine love :-X
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 20, 2011, 04:28:44 PM
going to failure impossible on sled


dont know howto be more clear

Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: Gregzs on January 20, 2011, 04:41:12 PM
I saw this on craigslist and was reminded of this thread:

Universal Gym for Sale - $200 (Holbrook, NY)
Has stations for leg press, shoulder press, bench press, lat pull-down, lat pull-up, low cable pull, leg extension, leg curl, and sit-up bench.

Item is on wheels and stands roughly 8-feet tall. Local pick-up only. Would need truck with tail-gate lift or you would need to disassemble and remove.

http://longisland.craigslist.org/spo/2169499557.html
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 20, 2011, 04:51:07 PM
How much weight do you use in the db bench press? My PR is 100*6 WEST>bird

most I used was 85

bird>>x400>west
west a scrub
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 20, 2011, 04:52:18 PM
Exactly...you use a spotter.  Try using one on your squats...or perhaps you should try doing something besides the crappy leg press.  There are plenty of those out there....so do something else...or find a new gym.  When was the last time you ever got close to failure on squats?  My guess is never.  Getting close to failure on leg press is no where close to doing so on squats.  HTH

nah screw all that

rather use universal gym legpress or something like it

all leg machines at 24 blow chunks and no failure

lame

sometime I wana train alone liek apollo creed  bitches

fuck I am sore 2nd day after  I fucked myself up on tues
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: jwb on January 21, 2011, 10:36:43 AM
going to failure impossible on sled


dont know howto be more clear


A sled isn't selectorized. You can go to failure on any leg press with a weight stack otherwise you wouldn't be able to get into the machine in the first place.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 21, 2011, 01:06:26 PM
A sled isn't selectorized. You can go to failure on any leg press with a weight stack otherwise you wouldn't be able to get into the machine in the first place.
Maybe that's the reason my gym has a similar leg press machine. I dislike the fact that you need to start and end in a position with your knees bent plus that the machine changes it's platform angle during the motion. Those equipment designers don't realize that -so called- "innovation" doesn't lead to better stuff. The leg press is a good example of this.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: dj181 on January 22, 2011, 04:15:28 AM
Hey man, Any luck with the leg press quest? WEST>bird(turd)
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: wes on January 22, 2011, 04:42:32 AM
We have a leg press at my gym that`s similar to this one.......a slide bolt allows the platform to seperate for one- legged leg presses.

Great machine, and the empty sled itself has to weigh at least 200 pounds or so.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: dj181 on January 22, 2011, 05:30:04 AM
What about belt squats? Those are a pretty damn good exercise, or so I've heard, being that I hardly ever actually train ma legs lol
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 22, 2011, 06:49:30 AM
We have a leg press at my gym that`s similar to this one.......a slide bolt allows the platform to seperate for one- legged leg presses.

Great machine, and the empty sled itself has to weigh at least 200 pounds or so.
Now we're talking :D
Looks like a Nebula or Elitefts
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 22, 2011, 06:59:56 AM
What about belt squats? Those are a pretty damn good exercise, or so I've heard, being that I hardly ever actually train ma legs lol
I've never tried them but find them interesting. They probably result in less stress on the lower back. The disadvantage I see is the same as with the "modern" leg press machine; you start and end with your knees bent.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: dj181 on January 22, 2011, 07:22:34 AM
I think that they are a pretty damn good hip/ass exercise, since one is forced to use a wide stance while doing them, not to mention the fact that the weight is around the waist rather than across the shoulders, so therefore the stress is more directly applied to the hips.
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 22, 2011, 07:30:02 AM
I think that they are a pretty damn good hip/ass exercise, since one is forced to use a wide stance while doing them, not to mention the fact that the weight is around the waist rather than across the shoulders, so therefore the stress is more directly applied to the hips.
I see no need to do them with a wide stance in case you do them with a cable attached to your belt. I think there's rather less stress on your core because there's less balancing work involved for your upper body.
Maybe another GB'er who did this exercise can confirm this?
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: slaver on January 22, 2011, 09:16:27 AM
A sled isn't selectorized. You can go to failure on any leg press with a weight stack otherwise you wouldn't be able to get into the machine in the first place.

no you will get crushed on most leg machine fi go failure
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: dj181 on January 22, 2011, 09:24:38 AM
Just a question tallgerman. Do you have hands and arms? If yes, then use them to press on your legs to get out of whatever leg press machine that you use. By da way... WEST>turd bird
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 22, 2011, 09:27:33 AM
no you will get crushed on most leg machine fi go failure
On a 45 degree leg press yes, but not on a horizontal one because it's range is limited
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: Spike on January 22, 2011, 10:16:52 AM
why dont you girls do squats and gets some WHEELS
Title: Re: Bring back the universal leg press
Post by: Ropo on January 22, 2011, 11:43:30 PM
don't like this one, can't go failure or crushed

On the contrary, I have seen many great men meet their failure point only by looking this machine, many young man meet their failure by trying first rep with empty sledge, and few strong men pressing to their failure with full load and two guys sitting on the sledge. In bodybuilding, you never get anywhere if you try to find and use only the benches and machines which seem to be comfortable for your candy ass. You must adopt the machines and take best out of any workout in any gym which you walk in to, or you are just a loser making excuses. If you are in love with the gym toy which is nice but doesn't let you accomplish good range of motion and which is ergonomically pitiful, you are in wrong way.