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high carb, low fat
Low carb
Keto
Calories in/calories out (adequate protein)?
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^^ irrelevant to body composition.
what is relevant:
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I'm sort of trying to get ripped right now.
I eat less food in general. Lots of times i'll have a pretty light dinner. Sometimes eat only 2 big meals a day with snacks. Consume less calories overall.
I try to go lower on carbs. Less rice and potatoes and all that. I'm eating a lot cleaner.
I up the veggies a lot. Lots of salads and stir frys with veggies and meat.
Most important is the training. Hardcore cardio sessions. I usually bicycle ride for a couple hours. Or do about 30 minutes of jumprope. I depend more on the intense cardio to get me ripped than the diet.
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LOL
hi fatpanda.
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One without so much fucking cereal. ;)
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high carb, low fat
Low carb
Keto
Calories in/calories out (adequate protein)?
i'll help out.
my calories are about 12.5-13 times my bodyweight (EDIT- this number is wrong due to the fact i added in 40 grams of coconut oil into my diet. im prolly now closer to 15x) i have dieted with 8-10 times calories/ bodyweight usually but i am getting better results with more calories, and no cardio.
starches are about 80 grm only. the rest of the carbs are fiberous- 24oz of brocolli a day, 2 green peppers, and 12 cups spinach. very high in fiber.
fats are very high. about 140 grams a day.
protein is 1.7 times bodyweight.
im gaining size, and leaning out at the same time. this is the first time this has happened. my doses are the lowest they have been in 3 years as well, leading me to believe any gains i am having are entirely dietary based.
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One without so much fucking cereal. ;)
you kill that box of reese pieces yet? :D
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you kill that box of reese pieces yet? :D
That night after superbowl I went through half, then last night the other half. Good thing is Vegas diet basically entails cutting cereal lol
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I'm sort of trying to get ripped right now.
I eat less food in general. Lots of times i'll have a pretty light dinner. Sometimes eat only 2 big meals a day with snacks. Consume less calories overall.
I try to go lower on carbs. Less rice and potatoes and all that. I'm eating a lot cleaner.
I up the veggies a lot. Lots of salads and stir frys with veggies and meat.
Most important is the training. Hardcore cardio sessions. I usually bicycle ride for a couple hours. Or do about 30 minutes of jumprope. I depend more on the intense cardio to get me ripped than the diet.
ectomorphs have no business talking about how to get ripped ::)
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Eating less. Mostly clean.
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What's your percent bodyfat at the moment? Also, how lean do you want to get? FYI, it's possible to lose 2% bodyfat per week if you really try.
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ectomorphs have no business talking about how to get ripped ::)
Then mesos have no business talking about how to train/gain muscle
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i'll help out.
my calories are about 12.5-13 times my bodyweight (EDIT- this number is wrong due to the fact i added in 40 grams of coconut oil into my diet. im prolly now closer to 15x) i have dieted with 8-10 times calories/ bodyweight usually but i am getting better results with more calories, and no cardio.
starches are about 80 grm only. the rest of the carbs are fiberous- 24oz of brocolli a day, 2 green peppers, and 12 cups spinach. very high in fiber.
fats are very high. about 140 grams a day.
protein is 1.7 times bodyweight.
im gaining size, and leaning out at the same time. this is the first time this has happened. my doses are the lowest they have been in 3 years as well, leading me to believe any gains i am having are entirely dietary based.
Interesting..what are your stats?
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I like the "eat as much and as dirty as you can while still loosing fat fast enough" diet...so I guess it's the last one, calories in/calories out option ;)
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To compliment my previous post...towards the end of the diet I clean my meals quite a lot to get rid of excessive water i usually retain while eating shit...but earlier in diet the high-carb junk keeps me full and going...and ice-cream is the best pre-workout food evah 8)
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today I ate a pann pizza and 1.5L coke...
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Good posts spude. Do you do any aerobic training while in the process of getting lean?
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i'll help out.
my calories are about 12.5-13 times my bodyweight (EDIT- this number is wrong due to the fact i added in 40 grams of coconut oil into my diet. im prolly now closer to 15x) i have dieted with 8-10 times calories/ bodyweight usually but i am getting better results with more calories, and no cardio.
starches are about 80 grm only. the rest of the carbs are fiberous- 24oz of brocolli a day, 2 green peppers, and 12 cups spinach. very high in fiber.
fats are very high. about 140 grams a day.
protein is 1.7 times bodyweight.
im gaining size, and leaning out at the same time. this is the first time this has happened. my doses are the lowest they have been in 3 years as well, leading me to believe any gains i am having are entirely dietary based.
post a pic lets see your gayns and leans
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Good posts spude. Do you do any aerobic training while in the process of getting lean?
Not intentionally...but due to where i live i use quite a lot of public transportation and need to walk like 2-5km every day 'cos of that...usually i try to cut even that "aerobic training" to as little as possible
And ofc, now that I've found myself a nice and hot bed warmer she also helps to keep me in shape 8)
But she's around 5ft tall (or short) and less than half of my weight so that's not too much of a cardiovascular exercise to "prevent my gains"... ;)
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Interesting..what are your stats?
i am about 8% at 240-242. scale weight doesn't fluctuate that much as long as a i dont carb up, but has increased 3.5 pounds since adding in the coconut oil 10 days ago.
the plan is to keep my dosages low until i get as lean as i am looking for (right now im at 750mg wk sust/ 300mg wk NPP) - the start of april- if i can hold my bodyweight at 240 till then while leaning out that'd be great. then i'll up the boost and run test and tren at 100mg ed, keep this NPP in im using now as i love it, maybe throw in some anadrol and then up the calories slightly to grow into the next two months till the end of may. i have never tried this. it should be interesting. even if i put on 5-7 pounds of lean over that 2 month period i'd be happy.
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Fuck man! Now I'm even more jealous of you than I normally am ;D You see, I was already jealous bout your 28 inch waist, but now that you got you a little hottie I'm even more jealous, but please just don't tell me that she has a round and firm little bubble butt on her 8)
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Not intentionally...but due to where i live i use quite a lot of public transportation and need to walk like 2-5km every day 'cos of that...usually i try to cut even that "aerobic training" to as little as possible
And ofc, now that I've found myself a nice and hot bed warmer she also helps to keep me in shape 8)
But she's around 5ft tall (or short) and less than half of my weight so that's not too much of a cardiovascular exercise to "prevent my gains"... ;)
pics of her plz, are you kiding me?!?!?... pics :P
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Fuck man! Now I'm even more jealous of you than I normally am ;D You see, I was already jealous bout your 28 inch waist, but now that you got you a little hottie I'm even more jealous, but please just don't tell me that she has a round and firm little bubble butt on her 8)
well...that depends on your standards...she used to be an ice-skater and...let's just say that I'm satisfied with her "lower body composition" 8)
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pics of her plz, are you kiding me?!?!?... pics :P
sorry mate...i made a stupid mistake and asked her if i could post a couple of pics from her computer at "one bodybuilding site"..she wasn't too keen on that :-\
but she doesn't know which site or my handle here...so i'll think about it ;D
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sorry mate...i made a stupid mistake and asked her if i could post a couple of pics from her computer at "one bodybuilding site"..she wasn't too keen on that :-\
but she doesn't know which site or my handle here...so i'll think about it ;D
pm :P... and you never say that to your girl...
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First off, cut protein down. This whole 1.5 grams/bodypound is complete marketing bullshit. Your body can only handle so much at a time anyway.
Shoot for 25-35 grams at a time. And unutilized protein will be stored.
Cut fats down also. Keep under 60 grams a day.. maybe less.
Carbs. I would keep them moderate as you'll need energy.
Do this for awhile with cardio and tweak the carbs/fats lower when needed.
Honestly, I think the reason ppl have a hard time losing bodyfat is that they ingest way too much protein, due to the supplement industy mantra.
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pm :P... and you never say that to your girl...
gb is one of those things she doesn't need to know...maybe after 20yrs and 3 children i might consider telling her...but even then there's always a risk she thinks i'm gay due to posting here... ;D
actually i needed to delete a couple of "tom prince pics" from my comp just for sure :-X
i'll consider your suggestion, mate...not today but later, when she has forgotten this "bb site" thing...luckily first thing she thought about was that stupid finnish "pakkotoisto" website where you can't even send pm's without being a vip member :o
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use ghona and cardio
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First off, cut protein down. This whole 1.5 grams/bodypound is complete marketing bullshit. Your body can only handle so much at a time anyway.
Shoot for 25-35 grams at a time. And unutilized protein will be stored.
Cut fats down also. Keep under 60 grams a day.. maybe less.
Carbs. I would keep them moderate as you'll need energy.
Do this for awhile with cardio and tweak the carbs/fats lower when needed.
Honestly, I think the reason ppl have a hard time losing bodyfat is that they ingest way too much protein, due to the supplement industy mantra.
I agree.
They tell you that you need protien so that you'll go out and buy it. And it's maing lots of people rich in the industry.
Protien powder is cheap shit that should cost like 5 dollars per bucket based on raw materials prices. But instead they charge dumbshits 40 dollars for like 20 or 30 servings of this cheap powder. It's crazy. Should be like 20 cents per serving, not $1.50.
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Me thinks dat there should be 2 "protein guidelines" 1 for natural trainers and 1 for enhanced trainers.
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gb is one of those things she doesn't need to know...maybe after 20yrs and 3 children i might consider telling her...but even then there's always a risk she thinks i'm gay due to posting here... ;D
actually i needed to delete a couple of "tom prince pics" from my comp just for sure :-X
i'll consider your suggestion, mate...not today but later, when she has forgotten this "bb site" thing...luckily first thing she thought about was that stupid finnish "pakkotoisto" website where you can't even send pm's without being a vip member :o
.... uhm.... you don't "tell her"... :D
lmao, I've posted plenty of girls I've fucked here, what's the big deal. If I had a girl the first thing I would do is post pics of her here, for sure, don't have to post face pics.
BUT, I understand, you do your thing and what you feel is best
and just for the record, there are people (other than xerxes) who have posted pictures of their girls when they are holding hands looking at the camera smiling... weding pics aswell , noone knows about it because I never tell anybody... just for my personal sick pleasure :P
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First off, cut protein down. This whole 1.5 grams/bodypound is complete marketing bullshit. Your body can only handle so much at a time anyway.
Shoot for 25-35 grams at a time. And unutilized protein will be stored.
Cut fats down also. Keep under 60 grams a day.. maybe less.
Carbs. I would keep them moderate as you'll need energy.
Do this for awhile with cardio and tweak the carbs/fats lower when needed.
Honestly, I think the reason ppl have a hard time losing bodyfat is that they ingest way too much protein, due to the supplement industy mantra.
I'd also add eating too many meals per day.
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I'd also add eating too many meals per day.
Perhaps, if the protein is too high. Ideally 8 low calorie meals would be great.. but ppl think they need to eat much more than they really do.
Ive been bodybuilding naturally now for 19 years. It's been just the past 2 years or so that i've brought down my protein levels and found it helps control bodyfat. I've done keto, low carb, carb cycle, etc.
Ppl are eating TOO much protein. And not just bf is affected. Think kidneys. And all the bs about them not being affected... go see a doc and have a kidney screen done. Guarantee your creatinine levels will be high. Granted this doesn't always indicated a stage of failure, but is just one indication.
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... just for my personal sick pleasure :P
dude you have some serious issues ;D
maybe you should also find someone to fulfill your hidden desires...
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dude you have some serious issues ;D
maybe you should also find someone to fulfill your hidden desires...
you notice now :P
yes... yes I do... and yes I will....
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Cardio in the AM first thing in the morning on an empty stomach- 45mins-60mins...
high protein, lowish carbs... mainly eat complex carbs earlier in the day, more vegetables at night.
no junk food or processed stuff.
Overall you need to burn more cals than you consume, it's not rocket science.
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you notice now :P
yes... yes I do... and yes I will....
well...i guess i notice it again and again every time i read your posts...
good luck! and don't forget to get pics 8)
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Cardio in the AM first thing in the morning on an empty stomach- 45mins-60mins...
high protein, lowish carbs... mainly eat complex carbs earlier in the day, more vegetables at night.
no junk food or processed stuff.
Overall you need to burn more cals than you consume, it's not rocket science.
Lower protein too. 30 grams per meal is totally sufficient even if on low carb.
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Me thinks dat there should be 2 "protein guidelines" 1 for natural trainers and 1 for enhanced trainers.
you are correct, sir.
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gh, test prop, eq, mast, tren ace, t3, clen, lasix, halo
if you dont have abs after that then your worthless
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I'm curious coltrane, how many pro grams do you take in on a daily basis, that's if you don't mind me asking?
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I'm curious coltrane, how many pro grams do you take in on a daily basis, that's if you don't mind me asking?
About 150 grams per day. I've seemed to tighten up a bit too.
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I think an enhanced user should eat more protein..
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That's interesting, I was purposely forcing myself to eat at least 1.8 grams per kilo of bodyweight this past summer, and it didn't do jack shit for me, just lost money on protein powder. Now I'm eating around 100 grams daily, down from 150 grams, and honest to God I'm bigger and stronger than I was when I was eating 150 grams. Also, I did make some changes to my training routine, so maybe that's the reason for my gains and not my lower protein intake? An example of my gains is: bodyweight chins plus 40 pounds for 7 reps vs. bodyweight plus 10 pounds for 5 reps back in August/September
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That's interesting, I was purposely forcing myself to eat at least 1.8 grams per kilo of bodyweight this past summer, and it didn't do jack shit for me, just lost money on protein powder. Now I'm eating around 100 grams daily, down from 150 grams, and honest to God I'm bigger and stronger than I was when I was eating 150 grams. Also, I did make some changes to my training routine, so maybe that's the reason for my gains and not my lower protein intake? An example of my gains is: bodyweight chins plus 40 pounds for 7 reps vs. bodyweight plus 10 pounds for 5 reps back in August/September
Bingo. Lighter, as you have less bf. Maybe you lost a bit of muscle mass, but the amount is probably nil in comparison to how much better you look.
I find i'm stronger at a lower bf too... but not too low. They say lower bf to increase hormone levels.
And yes, meso, more protein for those on anabolics. I'm not.
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Bingo. Lighter, as you have less bf. Maybe you lost a bit of muscle mass, but the amount is probably nil in comparison to how much better you look.
I find i'm stronger at a lower bf too... but not too low. They say lower bf to increase hormone levels.
And yes, meso, more protein for those on anabolics. I'm not.
ask JNN that kid knows how to get ripped when your >176lb
i remember back in my rainbow sunshine days of naturalness all I needed was to eat clean and do cardio once in awhile but I was young - 170lb or so, on stage
I was in tx so I ate lots of grilled chicken soft tacos with only fresh pico - eggs - never have I did the low carb thing tho, I take a shake once in awhile but no where near as to protein I take now at 265lb or so
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Lots of sex with your mom.
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ask JNN that kid knows how to get ripped when your >176lb
i remember back in my rainbow sunshine days of naturalness all I needed was to eat clean and do cardio once in awhile but I was young - 170lb or so, on stage
I was in tx so I ate lots of grilled chicken soft tacos with only fresh pico - eggs - never have I did the low carb thing tho, I take a shake once in awhile but no where near as to protein I take now at 265lb or so
How much grams of protein you take each day Spike?
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Lower protein too. 30 grams per meal is totally sufficient even if on low carb.
By high protein, I mean in the range of 1 gram per pound of bodyweight is more than enough... But if you are going to eat "too much" of something, protein is a safer bet...
I also agree 30-40grams per serving is what I find works best for me.
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By high protein, I mean in the range of 1 gram per pound of bodyweight is more than enough... But if you are going to eat "too much" of something, protein is a safer bet...
I also agree 30-40grams per serving is what I find works best for me.
by safer you mean in terms of not adding bf? Cause I think too much protein is hard on the kidneys.
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well...i guess i notice it again and again every time i read your posts...
good luck! and don't forget to get pics 8)
so that's NO FOR the pics then >:(... ok.... aight... ok, I get it, I get it, ok.. aight... >:(
:'(
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by safer you mean in terms of not adding bf? Cause I think too much protein is hard on the kidneys.
Yes much harder to convert protein to bodyfat than carbs... and i wouldn't worry about protein messing up your kidneys... you should be more concerned about too much simple sugars and carbs and becoming diabetic- that would really fuck up your kidney's much worse than 200g of protein a day lol... just drink a lot of water.
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limit carbs...and work out a little harder....that is all..
bench
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i'll help out.
my calories are about 12.5-13 times my bodyweight (EDIT- this number is wrong due to the fact i added in 40 grams of coconut oil into my diet. im prolly now closer to 15x) i have dieted with 8-10 times calories/ bodyweight usually but i am getting better results with more calories, and no cardio.
starches are about 80 grm only. the rest of the carbs are fiberous- 24oz of brocolli a day, 2 green peppers, and 12 cups spinach. very high in fiber.
fats are very high. about 140 grams a day.
protein is 1.7 times bodyweight.
im gaining size, and leaning out at the same time. this is the first time this has happened. my doses are the lowest they have been in 3 years as well, leading me to believe any gains i am having are entirely dietary based.
what does a typical daily menu look like?
I've never tried coconut oil so I'm wonderintg how you use that (i.e do you cook with it or mix it into food after cooking)?
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what does a typical daily menu look like?
I've never tried coconut oil so I'm wonderintg how you use that (i.e do you cook with it or mix it into food after cooking)?
coconut oil is an MCT and is the bomb so far as fats go.
the fats are 40 grams from coconut oil- i put it on my broccoli and chicken after its cooked- its like a solid white paste, but then when you put your meal in the mircowave to heat it up it melts, 80 grams from almonds, 20 grams from red meat and 3 whole omega 3 eggs.
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coconut oil is an MCT and is the bomb so far as fats go.
the fats are 40 grams from coconut oil- i put it on my broccoli and chicken after its cooked- its like a solid white paste, but then when you put your meal in the mircowave to heat it up it melts, 80 grams from almonds, 20 grams from red meat and 3 whole omega 3 eggs.
are the 12 cups of spinach raw or frozen
I eat a lot of spinach (organic, chopped, frozen from Whole Foods) but I always measure it by weight (grams) and never by the cup
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are the 12 cups of spinach raw or frozen
I eat a lot of spinach (organic, chopped, frozen from Whole Foods) but I always measure it by weight (grams) and never by the cup
spinach is raw. edit: ive noticed a massive difference in my dieting by eating so many fiberous carbs.
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Kit kats,all Kit kats...
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high carb, low fat
Low carb
Keto
Calories in/calories out (adequate protein)?
I've done it the keto way (less than 50 grams of carbs per day) and the I've done it the TKD (timed keto diet) way. They both worked great. I prefer the TKD method.
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moderate protein / rest irrelevant diet
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I think you forgot the most important thing, a calorie deficit.