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Title: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Xerxes on February 18, 2011, 04:23:08 AM
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Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 18, 2011, 04:27:50 AM
what's his doctorate in?
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Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 18, 2011, 04:31:51 AM
He is as natural as swede playing in the NBA
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Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 18, 2011, 04:32:39 AM
Education:
B.S. Mathematics, University of Mary Washington - 1998
B.S. Economics, University of Mary Washington - 1998
M.S. Agricultural Economics, Virginia Tech - 2003
Ph.D. Economics, Virginia Tech - 2005
Occupation:  Assistant Professor, Oklahoma State University

impressive
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Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 18, 2011, 04:38:13 AM
Wow sevastase in with a comment doubting someones natural status  :o shocker  ;D
numnuts: didn't you ask if he was nattie?

NO. he is not unless you think swede could play in the NBA (they have a height minimum even for mascots and cheerleaders)
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Post by: Meso_z on February 18, 2011, 04:49:10 AM
numnuts: didn't you ask if he was nattie?

NO. he is not unless you think swede could play in the NBA (they have a height minimum even for mascots and cheerleaders)
Is that you sev?
lol!!! i just realized its you! haha...when did you change the name?
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Post by: spinnis on February 18, 2011, 04:51:06 AM
Is that you sev?
lol!!! i just realized its you! haha...when did you change the name?

After he didnt want peopple at this forum to out him anymore hahaha

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152081&page=6

(http://i52.tinypic.com/15yetd4.jpg)

outing starts at post 59  ;D ;D
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Post by: devilsmile on February 18, 2011, 04:57:47 AM
lmao, what drug cave is that from, swede  :-X?

anyway, I think he could be natural... after all, my current built is considerred the smallest on the planet so why not :D. That's what a man looks like when he doesn't get high fevers twice a year

Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Hulkotron on February 18, 2011, 05:00:01 AM
His muscle mass is nothing unnatural (plenty of normal folks walk around at 5-9 165) so maybe he is "natural" in the sense of not using steroids but I have a hard time believing someone can get that lean without a little extra help.
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Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 18, 2011, 05:01:02 AM
Is that you sev?
lol!!! i just realized its you! haha...when did you change the name?
I asked Ron to change it and even started a thread about it. It was a childhood nick from a guy I am no longer friends with... so I decided it was time for a change :)
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 18, 2011, 05:02:08 AM
This guy is NOT natural! Are you all blind??
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: devilsmile on February 18, 2011, 05:05:49 AM
His muscle mass is nothing unnatural (plenty of normal folks walk around at 5-9 165) so maybe he is "natural" in the sense of not using steroids but I have a hard time believing someone can get that lean without a little extra help.

You got it all wrong... it's easy to get that lean... it's hard to have those full muscle bellys WITH ADDITION to that crisp ripped shape.

There's not one natural that walks around 165lbs looking like that
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Post by: devilsmile on February 18, 2011, 05:06:37 AM
yeah I think he is
(http://www.brianwhitacre.net/Pictures/Thumbnails/Model%20Pics/08Pic7.jpg)
(http://www.brianwhitacre.net/Pictures/Thumbnails/Model%20Pics/08Pic6.jpg)


these pics = natural hard work/dedication/longetivity

that's all...

those other pics fooled me a little...
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Meso_z on February 18, 2011, 05:07:03 AM
I asked Ron to change it and even started a thread about it. It was a childhood nick from a guy I am no longer friends with... so I decided it was time for a change :)
cool..I might have even "attacked" you in previous posts, i dont remember. lol didnt knew you changed your name.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on February 18, 2011, 05:07:38 AM
"Natural bodybuilding means that I choose to build my physique without the use of steroids, prohormones, or other banned substances.  It means that there is no substitute for hard work in the gym, a disciplined diet, and patience.  It means you have to use your brain as well as your brawn to devise and implement a plan that will push your body to its very limits and lead you to success on the bodybuilding stage."

- Brian Whitacre

Pay close attention. No shit he is using. He just said it right there.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 18, 2011, 05:08:48 AM
cool..I might have even "attacked" you in previous posts, i dont remember. lol didnt knew you changed your name.
It was posted on CNN a while back ...  ;D

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Post by: Hulkotron on February 18, 2011, 05:13:22 AM
You guys need to define what you mean by "natural".  Not using steroids or GH?  There are plenty of other things that "help" that I would consider unnatural.
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Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 18, 2011, 05:15:41 AM
nobody laughed the first time squirt ... you need more talent ;)

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Post by: Monster_Everything on February 18, 2011, 05:39:18 AM
What was his time in the 1000m freestyle ?
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: WillGrant on February 18, 2011, 06:04:06 AM
Why not

(http://www.brianwhitacre.net/Pictures/Thumbnails/Model%20Pics/09Pic2.JPG)
(http://www.brianwhitacre.net/Pictures/Thumbnails/Model%20Pics/08Pic2.jpg)

not natural bro .he has an enhanced hard look that only gear will give you.. at that weight and height plus condition if he was natural he would look "stringy" ..AAS use is not about how much someone weighs its the look."alot" of the time weight comes down to genetics or response to hormones..
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Post by: JP_RC on February 18, 2011, 06:22:09 AM
I believe he could be a lifetime natural, although he may use something to dry out and get that condition.

Who knows.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 18, 2011, 08:48:18 AM
You got it all wrong... it's easy to get that lean... it's hard to have those full muscle bellys WITH ADDITION to that crisp ripped shape.

There's not one natural that walks around 165lbs looking like that


X2....it's his full ,dense muscle bellies (no homo) at 5% bf that give it away.

You ever see REAL natty's on stage ?  stringiest dudes you will ever see
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Krankenstein on February 18, 2011, 09:05:24 AM
"Natural bodybuilding means that I choose to build my physique without the use of steroids, prohormones, or other banned substances.  It means that there is no substitute for hard work in the gym, a disciplined diet, and patience.  It means you have to use your brain as well as your brawn to devise and implement a plan that will push your body to its very limits and lead you to success on the bodybuilding stage."

- Brian Whitacre

Competed in some shows with him.  Also, talked with him after one of the shows.  The guy doesnt get fat in the off season.  He diets for 20 some odd weeks.  He isnt outrageously strong.  Anyone thinks that cant be attained without drugs...seriously needs to be kicked in the head.
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Post by: closeline on February 18, 2011, 09:46:07 AM
wnbf = world liar federation = equal juice shitty response = natural
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Post by: Tito24 on February 18, 2011, 09:48:52 AM
X2....it's his full ,dense muscle bellies (no homo) at 5% bf that give it away.

You ever see REAL natty's on stage ?  stringiest dudes you will ever see

agree, its beyond me why these people go on stage in the first place. naturals are not ment for bodybuilding competitions. fucking grasshoppers.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: devilsmile on February 18, 2011, 09:49:16 AM
X2....it's his full ,dense muscle bellies (no homo) at 5% bf that give it away.

You ever see REAL natty's on stage ?  stringiest dudes you will ever see

yeah, I dunno what's so hard to diet and lose weight even if you're not an ecto. But to have that kind of daemon shape to the muscles and being ripped takes alot more work... and maby some help, not much but enough to make a big difference.

If I took 200mg of test a week and stayed healthy for a year you'd see a whole new devil :P
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: johnnynoname on February 18, 2011, 09:57:41 AM

You ever see REAL natty's on stage ?  stringiest dudes you will ever see

this

most REAL naturals end up looking like skinnier version of Clarence Bass on stage
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: dr.chimps on February 18, 2011, 10:00:58 AM
this

most REAL naturals end up looking like skinnier version of Clarence Bass on stage
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Croatch on February 18, 2011, 10:04:36 AM
There's no way possible someone can be 165lbs at 5' 9"...all drugs. ::)
What a group of tools on this site...hahah

165lbs is tiny at that height.  He's full, but still, not large at all.  I'm lean at 207lbs 5' 7"...though I'm blocky in the waist.
It's your typical, "If I can't achieve it, there's no way he could." mentality that makes me laugh.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: devilsmile on February 18, 2011, 10:08:17 AM
There's no way possible someone can be 165lbs at 5' 9"...all drugs. ::)
What a group of tools on this site...hahah

165lbs is tiny at that height.  He's full, but still, not large at all.  I'm lean at 207lbs 5' 7"...though I'm blocky in the waist.
It's your typical, "If I can't achieve it, there's no way he could." mentality that makes me laugh.

OOOOH BROTHER  ::) x10000000000000000000000 000

:D lol at this fucking discussion anyway, SHIT!

"NO, Laura! This one guy doesn't agree that he's roided up, he only weights 165lbs don't yOU UNDERSTAnD; FUCK OFF!!!"


Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Meso_z on February 18, 2011, 10:11:15 AM
yeah, I dunno what's so hard to diet and lose weight even if you're not an ecto. But to have that kind of daemon shape to the muscles and being ripped takes alot more work... and maby some help, not much but enough to make a big difference.

If I took 200mg of test a week and stayed healthy for a year you'd see a whole new devil :P
Ive seen your pics and youre ripped and clean...if you start juicing...man, talking about blowing up.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: The True Adonis on February 18, 2011, 10:12:57 AM
He is THE BEST lifetime Natural in my opinion.
2009 Worlds


(http://www.brianwhitacre.net/Pictures/Thumbnails/Model%20Pics/LD1.jpg)


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=117428.0;attach=133325;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=117428.0;attach=133326;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=117428.0;attach=133327;image)
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 18, 2011, 10:12:57 AM
Most nattys carry some fat if the have any size

Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: devilsmile on February 18, 2011, 10:14:29 AM
Ive seen your pics and youre ripped and clean...if you start juicing...man, talking about blowing up.

if pro hormones were leagal here, I'd maby give them a try.... but I've heard you can even fuck them up, so... what I've understood is that the muscle I gain from using pro hormones would be there to stay that's why I would be interested in them.




and the pictures above... the guy seems to be in his 30's, no? maby he IS natural after all... i dunno....
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Post by: Game Time on February 18, 2011, 10:15:37 AM
Way to lean to be a natty.
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Post by: The True Adonis on February 18, 2011, 10:16:54 AM
Way to lean to be a natty.
Fuckstick, Leanness is the one thing Lifetime Naturals have over druggies.  Druggies tend not to be as lean.  Leanness has nothing to do with drug usage.
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Post by: affeman on February 18, 2011, 10:20:03 AM
not natural. Who claims otherwise has no fucking clue what he's talking about.
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Post by: Game Time on February 18, 2011, 10:20:42 AM
Fuckstick, Leanness is the one thing Lifetime Naturals have over druggies.  Druggies tend not to be as lean.  Leanness has nothing to do with drug usage.

...are you serious?

This guy is beyond 6 pack lean. He has shredded hams, glutes and lower back. Chicken and rice with some cardio dont get you there, he has some help.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: The True Adonis on February 18, 2011, 10:23:28 AM
...are you serious?

This guy is beyond 6 pack lean. He has shredded hams, glutes and lower back. Chicken and rice with some cardio dont get you there, he has some help.
You obviously don`t know anything about getting lean then do you?  There are a TON of Lifetime naturals that get around this lean.  Its pretty much standard and easy to do WITHOUT ANY DRUGS WHATSOEVER.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: johnnynoname on February 18, 2011, 10:24:15 AM


is that a "andy griffin show" character?

Way to lean to be a natty.

it's not that he is "lean"....it is that his muscle bellies (as "Groink" put it) are way to full for a real natural competitor on contest day

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Post by: pluck on February 18, 2011, 10:25:07 AM
I say natty. Doesn't have gear lOok
Plus he has mature muscle from years of training
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Post by: Palpatine Q on February 18, 2011, 10:27:21 AM
I'd rather be bigger and not as cut
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Post by: Game Time on February 18, 2011, 10:31:29 AM
You obviously don`t know anything about getting lean then do you?  There are a TON of Lifetime naturals that get around this lean.  Its pretty much standard and easy to do WITHOUT ANY DRUGS WHATSOEVER.

It's easy eh? You're an idiot!!!

There are a TON of "lifetime naturals" that juice and have no problem getting this lean.

His size is easily attainable, thats not even a questions. It's that level of bf that will raise eyebrows...

Anyway, we can go back and forth all day. I won't bite the hook and get into it with you
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: devilsmile on February 18, 2011, 10:34:18 AM
What is the cellphone model that Ricky Verona uses in the movie Crank (2006)?

Chev uses Nokias 8800 Slide Silver... but what does ricky use?

I know it's offtopic, problem (http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/system/profile/icon/14135/small/TrollFace.png?1268417157)?
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Post by: johnnynoname on February 18, 2011, 10:40:14 AM
what is it with Euro's and Nokia's?
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: devilsmile on February 18, 2011, 10:43:24 AM
what is it with Euro's and Nokia's?

answer the question... help me out here.
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Post by: Palpatine Q on February 18, 2011, 10:43:58 AM
you guys didn't like the vid?
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Post by: Julio Ceasar on February 18, 2011, 10:45:30 AM
A big misstake people do is to assume from their own genetics and set that as a reference point. Most people have shitty genetics, and some have excellent genetics. I think this is possible to achieve. And the only man is himself to know if he is on gear or not. People often jude from their own behaviour...

Sorry for my english :)


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Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 18, 2011, 10:45:49 AM
you guys didn't like the vid?
you look much thicker on video .. do you eat a lot ?
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Post by: dr.chimps on February 18, 2011, 10:46:05 AM
you guys didn't like the vid?
You hit the poses a tad cold. Maybe warm up with some falcon turbo punches?   ;D

/masterpiece
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: devilsmile on February 18, 2011, 10:46:11 AM
you guys didn't like the vid?

you are so HUUUUUGE!!!!!    Have you ever seen that much muscle on a mAnh  :o  ;D


now help me out.
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Post by: no one on February 18, 2011, 10:47:33 AM
You obviously don`t know anything about getting lean then do you?  There are a TON of Lifetime naturals that get around this lean.  Its pretty much standard and easy to do WITHOUT ANY DRUGS WHATSOEVER.

 ::)
(http://images4.cpcache.com/product/378186994v4_480x480_Front.jpg)
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: johnnynoname on February 18, 2011, 10:48:11 AM
seriously, Groink is a big dude..no homo
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Post by: Palpatine Q on February 18, 2011, 10:48:46 AM
you are so HUUUUUGE!!!!!    Have you ever seen that much muscle on a mAnh  :o  ;D


now help me out.

Dude i have no clue where you would even find that out
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Post by: newmom on February 18, 2011, 10:49:38 AM
seriously, Groink is a big dude..no homo

^This,  gotta be one of the biggest dudes on here

and he's easy on the eyes
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: devilsmile on February 18, 2011, 10:50:02 AM
Dude i have no clue where you would even find that out

I know... I googled what the cell phone is and all I've found is Chev's so far... for some reason I need to find the phone ricky uses... I just have to...
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Cableguy on February 18, 2011, 10:50:10 AM
Most nattys carry some fat if the have any size



If you were to get into contest shape, how much do you think you'd weigh?
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Post by: Palpatine Q on February 18, 2011, 10:50:25 AM
you look much thicker on video .. do you eat a lot ?

Like a pig.....that's why I'm NEVER cut  :D
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 18, 2011, 10:52:33 AM
If you were to get into contest shape, how much do you think you'd weigh?

I'm 255 there so I'll let the experts decide......i predict they say I'll weigh 170  :D
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: devilsmile on February 18, 2011, 10:53:19 AM
yeah no homo, but I don't think you even need to cut... you look really good.

You'd weight... I'd say.... 185 on contest shape... 190 if you settled with "1975 mr universe shape".... what do you think?
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Meso_z on February 18, 2011, 10:54:39 AM
you guys didn't like the vid?
Triceps are impressive as fuck.

"How do you train them?" Not that it matters...lol Just keeping the boards positive. lol ;D
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: johnnynoname on February 18, 2011, 10:55:45 AM
alot of people seem to be playing the "he has REALLY good genes" card but a white person's genes can only go so far
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Meso_z on February 18, 2011, 10:56:33 AM
Just to add. I doubt the guy in the pics is natural. Clean for couple weeks before the show (to drop some water and maybe pass possible drug tests), yes.. but not true natural.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: newmom on February 18, 2011, 10:57:52 AM
you guys didn't like the vid?

I'm not a guy but I sure as hell did ;D ;)
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Post by: Palpatine Q on February 18, 2011, 10:59:38 AM
I'm not a guy but I sure as hell did ;D ;)

Thanks  :)
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Post by: Cableguy on February 18, 2011, 11:02:20 AM
I'm 255 there so I'll let the experts decide......i predict they say I'll weigh 170  :D

How tall are you Groink?
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Post by: Palpatine Q on February 18, 2011, 11:03:23 AM
yeah no homo, but I don't think you even need to cut... you look really good.

You'd weight... I'd say.... 185 on contest shape... 190 if you settled with "1975 mr universe shape".... what do you think?

I have no idea.....prolly 190-195.

I don't think i have more than 50 lbs to lose, I'm muscular now
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 18, 2011, 11:04:15 AM
How tall are you Groink?

A cvnthair under 6 feet
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Meso_z on February 18, 2011, 11:05:13 AM
What's the difference if he is or not?  His look COULD be achieved natural.  
It can be achieved, but not on this level. the guy is Munzer ripped.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: devilsmile on February 18, 2011, 11:05:53 AM
I have no idea.....prolly 190-195.

I don't think i have more than 50 lbs to lose, I'm muscular now

ye u are rly lean for that size, like i said no need to diet.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: kiwiol on February 18, 2011, 11:07:39 AM
Looking huge as usual, Groink
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Post by: CalvinH on February 18, 2011, 11:14:31 AM
I'd rather be bigger and not as cut



This, I'm between twink and your size....and I'm ok with that.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Meso_z on February 18, 2011, 11:16:38 AM
A cvnthair under 6 feet
How you do train those things? (triceps)
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 18, 2011, 11:19:04 AM
How you do train those things? (triceps)

close grip decline bench press
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on February 18, 2011, 11:21:32 AM
LMAO these people are about as natural as black on white porn.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 18, 2011, 11:27:09 AM
Groink you should get on a couple d bols and 200mgs test a week and beat Jay next Mr.O. ::)











 :-* :D

I figure I'll drop 20 lbs and enter "the contest"  :D
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: tendonitis on February 18, 2011, 11:28:07 AM
Groink is just a fckin beast.  He looks even thicker in the video than he does in pictures.
Bastard   :D
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 18, 2011, 11:38:19 AM
Groink is just a fckin beast.  He looks even thicker in the video than he does in pictures.
Bastard   :D


Thanks...but according to " the Swami".....there's. ......   " 20 guys just like me in every gym"


PS.......I think everyone who thinks they are something around here should post a video......and I have been saying that for a long ass time, not Just because I put one up.

With pictures you take 500 of them and post the one that looks" just right" .....and then you sharpen it.....Jack up the contrast...etc. etc.   ;D
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Stavios on February 18, 2011, 11:40:20 AM
great physique on that dude, that's what I strive for
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: no one on February 18, 2011, 11:44:50 AM
I'm 255 there so I'll let the experts decide......i predict they say I'll weigh 170  :D

hard to say with a tanktop on. you could hold a lot of fat in your abdominal area or back.

i'd honestly say without seeing the rest of you, you'd prolly end up around 225ish at 5-6% if you didnt lose any lean tissue and took the right compounds.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 18, 2011, 12:00:08 PM
hard to say with a tanktop on. you could hold a lot of fat in your abdominal area or back.

i'd honestly say without seeing the rest of you, you'd prolly end up around 225ish at 5-6% if you didnt lose any lean tissue and took the right compounds.


My stomach is fine..I actually have very nice abs when you can see them...but You can't right now so I'm not going to post a pic and have assholes call me "fat" because I don't have a waist like Devilsmile at 255 lbs.   ;)
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: The Grim Lifter on February 18, 2011, 12:30:34 PM
Yes i believe this guy is natural.

I know what muscle i built before i juiced and it was around this level if not more (never got so ripped so hard to tell).
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: The True Adonis on February 18, 2011, 12:45:10 PM
I have no idea.....prolly 190-195.

I don't think i have more than 50 lbs to lose, I'm muscular now
You DO have over 50 lbs to lose.  You will have to figure this out on your own one day, but I don`t think you care to.  It may own you, if your identity is intertwined with being known as "Big (insert your name here)" to everyone around you and to yourself.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: The Grim Lifter on February 18, 2011, 12:48:04 PM
You DO have over 50 lbs to lose.  You will have to figure this out on your own one day, but I don`t think you care to.  It may own you, if your identity is intertwined with being known as "Big (insert your name here)" to everyone around you and to yourself.

I don't know about 50 but yes he has quite a bit to drop.

Even dropping 20 pounds you look totally different in terms of fullness of different muscles and how much actual muscle you really hold. It's a bitch if you haven't done it before.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Jaime on February 18, 2011, 01:07:24 PM
The only thing that brings it in to question is being that lean and full at the same time.


Most people have shit genetics so look at it from their own perspective, newsflash everybody that looks good isn't taking boatloads of juice.


Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Monster_Everything on February 18, 2011, 01:32:11 PM
Groink looking big as a house ....
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 18, 2011, 01:40:10 PM
You DO have over 50 lbs to lose.  You will have to figure this out on your own one day, but I don`t think you care to.  It may own you, if your identity is intertwined with being known as "Big (insert your name here)" to everyone around you and to yourself.

No i don't....i would be as lean as you (say) you are at 225-230
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: The True Adonis on February 18, 2011, 01:53:23 PM
No i don't....i would be as lean as you (say) you are at 225-230
Not a chance in your life.  Ever.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 18, 2011, 02:03:52 PM
Not a chance in your life.  Ever.

Have you ever been as large and muscular as i am right now?
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: The True Adonis on February 18, 2011, 02:28:57 PM
Have you ever been as large and muscular as i am right now?
Post a shot without a tank top and I will be able to tell you.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Jizzacked on February 18, 2011, 02:29:25 PM
looking solid brother groink, like a don.  nice work
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 18, 2011, 02:43:24 PM
No i don't....i would be as lean as you (say) you are at 225-230
hes jealous....
looking good groink
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: The True Adonis on February 18, 2011, 02:48:07 PM
hes jealous....
looking good groink
I`m not jealous.  He has a great physique if that is the type he is going for.  Its not the type I strive for, but for many it is ideal.  I prefer less rounded, smaller and leaner.  I see mass as an unhealthy hindrance, be it muscle or fat.  Groink is accomplishing and maintaining what he wants just as I am.  He knows I am not trying to belittle him, at least I think he isn`t taking it that way.  He definitely should not.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: dogbowl on February 18, 2011, 02:57:48 PM
There's no comparison

Brian Whitacre looks like he's carved from marble

Groink looks like he's carved from marshmallow
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: che on February 18, 2011, 03:04:41 PM
My mom is lifetime natural.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Natural Man on February 18, 2011, 03:07:56 PM
I`m not jealous.  He has a great physique if that is the type he is going for.  Its not the type I strive for, but for many it is ideal.  I prefer less rounded, smaller and leaner.  I see mass as an unhealthy hindrance, be it muscle or fat.  Groink is accomplishing and maintaining what he wants just as I am.  He knows I am not trying to belittle him, at least I think he isn`t taking it that way.  He definitely should not.
you dont prefer anything you homo, you have no choice of being skinyy because you re an ecto and groink is a mix of a meso and endo. Whatever you do you ll never look like him but you wish you could. ''not the type i strive for'' hahah what a moron. You cant attain it you dont have the genetics, of course you re going to say you ''prefer'' going for the ''leaner'' (smaller) look, Fucking turd.

So did you finaly get a job or do you just stay at home whining and randomly spaming messageboards to make you feel better about yourself and your so called ''intelligence'' while your poor girl with a low self esteem is going to work? you re scared of the real world and real life, a little boy pretending to be mature on the internet but it appears you re exactly quite the oposite in real life. Its harder to prove things to real people than on the internet isnt it?


Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: affeman on February 18, 2011, 03:11:17 PM
you dont prefer anything you homo, you have no choice of being skinyy because you re an ecto and groink is a mix of a meso and endo. Whatever you do you ll never look like him but you wish you could. ''not the type i strive for'' hahah what a moron. You cant attain it you dont have the genetics, of course you re going to say you ''prefer'' going for the ''leaner'' (smaller) look, Fucking turd.

So did you finaly get a job or do you just stay at home whining and randomly spaming messageboards to make you feel better about yourself and your so called ''intelligence'' while your poor girl with a low self esteem is going to work? you re scared of the real world and real life, a little boy pretending to be mature on the internet but it appears you re exactly quite the oposite in real life. Its harder to prove things to real people than on the internet isnt it?

ouch :o :o
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Earl1972 on February 18, 2011, 03:12:34 PM
ripped and big looks cool, ripped and small looks kinda gross imo

E
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: newmom on February 18, 2011, 03:12:44 PM
My mom is lifetime natural.

lol
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 18, 2011, 03:21:45 PM
I`m not jealous.  He has a great physique if that is the type he is going for.  Its not the type I strive for, but for many it is ideal.  I prefer less rounded, smaller and leaner.  I see mass as an unhealthy hindrance, be it muscle or fat.  Groink is accomplishing and maintaining what he wants just as I am.  He knows I am not trying to belittle him, at least I think he isn`t taking it that way.  He definitely should not.

i think you are slightly jealous.. groink isnt fat he is fairly lean with full muscles why would some
imo 160 is too small for a grown man over 5'9 if hes training
i like to be big and cut....
not small and cut
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Jaime on February 18, 2011, 03:27:29 PM
i think you are slightly jealous.. groink isnt fat he is fairly lean with full muscles why would some
imo 160 is too small for a grown man over 5'9 if hes training
i like to be big and cut....
not small and cut


Adonis is small and not very cut and Groink is big and not very cut, so what way you want it  :)

It depends what your structure is in all seriousness, it's not the weight it's the mirror.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Marty Champions on February 18, 2011, 03:27:47 PM
looking good groink
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: The True Adonis on February 18, 2011, 03:32:00 PM
i think you are slightly jealous.. groink isnt fat he is fairly lean with full muscles why would some
imo 160 is too small for a grown man over 5'9 if hes training
i like to be big and cut....
not small and cut
Why would I be jealous of something I would never want to try to emulate?  ???  It doesn`t make sense.  I would NEVER want to be over 200 lbs ever again in my life and I never will be nor would I ever try to be. It feels horrible, especially with my bird bones.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Jaime on February 18, 2011, 03:41:23 PM
Being in shape at 200 lbs at 5'11-6'1 height is ideal, i fail to see how anyone could feel horrible.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on February 18, 2011, 03:41:33 PM
you dont prefer anything you homo, you have no choice of being skinyy because you re an ecto and groink is a mix of a meso and endo. Whatever you do you ll never look like him but you wish you could. ''not the type i strive for'' hahah what a moron. You cant attain it you dont have the genetics, of course you re going to say you ''prefer'' going for the ''leaner'' (smaller) look, Fucking turd.


hahahahahhahaha
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 18, 2011, 04:44:55 PM
Why would I be jealous of something I would never want to try to emulate?  ???  It doesn`t make sense.  I would NEVER want to be over 200 lbs ever again in my life and I never will be nor would I ever try to be. It feels horrible, especially with my bird bones.

the question is what did you look like when you were over 200
some people naturals look good over 200 groink has the genetics to look good far beyoond that weight if you were 255 you wouldnt look anything close to groink groink has better muscle building genetics than you period
160 is tiny imo
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: 225for70 on February 18, 2011, 04:51:52 PM
This guy is NOT natural! Are you all blind??

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sevastase

Sevastase   13 up, 3 down
buy sevastase mugs, tshirts and magnets
Internet celebrity known as The Romanian Stallion.
Well known on the internet boards of GetBig.com where he rules with his homie Swede!

Sevastase is notoriously known for having intercourse with 148 women and counting. Many posers on GetBig, whom Sevastase calls "punk ass bitches", question the extent of Sev's sexual endeavours, but they have no proof yet for their criticisms.

As of late, Sevastase has been making YouTube videos, highly popular in the GetBig community.
Sevastase: I fucked your wife

Donkey Kong: Sociopath

Sev: Get a life loser.

---------------------------

Sev: Look at the pictures of these 5 girls I fucked tonight

All of GetBig: Nice work bro.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Hulkotron on February 18, 2011, 06:46:06 PM
Groink generates by far the most meltdowns per post.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: jude2 on February 18, 2011, 07:05:17 PM
I have worked in the medical field for the past 20 years. One way to find out if someone is a life time natural is their nut size. All the guys that we have seen in the hospital that have abused steroids have small nuts, a life time natural shouldn't have atrohpy of the balls. Like gh15 says the BB who use gh at high doses will have thick cock, but little balls. Jose Casaco's wife said the same thing about Jose in her playboy interview, he had a big cock and no balls.  We need to have the Bay GBM  on here examine these so called life time naturals.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: tommywishbone on February 18, 2011, 07:32:55 PM
I have no opinion, therefore I will not discuss.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: njflex on February 18, 2011, 07:57:27 PM
i think for once in one thread groink and t.a took a similar road and stated there opinion and moved on.they have there stance on building there perspective builds thats good enough.amen,,,
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: devilsmile on February 18, 2011, 10:03:46 PM
Uberman is right, It's so funny when people of my built comes like; "Yeah I'm not jealouse, BUT, I just don't want to look that big, it's not me, I think being 160 lbs with ripped abs is nice... I mean I would go bigger but I just don't need to"  ::)
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Master Blaster on February 18, 2011, 10:19:35 PM
SUPER natural.


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=117428.0;attach=133325;image)
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: gh15 on February 18, 2011, 10:20:07 PM
On the opposite side of the spectrum are the overweight permabulkers who claim it is "so easy" to get ripped, but have never been able to do it themselves...of course because they have "no desire to be lean"  ::)

It takes hard work to get large muscles
It takes hard work to get an extremely ripped physique



and! it takes lots of ....all together now ,,

testosterona
trenbolona
equipona
masterona
and gh

to get that larger muscle that are lean and ripped

the combo of both lean and large can only be achieved with the products mentioned above

the basics,,testosterona trenbolona gh ,,this is the golden key into the lock called bodybuilding

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Master Blaster on February 18, 2011, 10:22:14 PM
and! it takes lots of ....all together now ,,

testosterona
trenbolona
equipona
masterona
and gh

to get that larger muscle that are lean and ripped

the combo of both lean and large can only be achieved with the products mentioned above

the basics,,testosterona trenbolona gh ,,this is the golden key into the lock called bodybuilding

gh15 approved

thank you master  8)
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: gh15 on February 18, 2011, 10:25:16 PM
and just so it clear,,noen of the ripped fella in the pictures presented in this postings are true naturals NONE OF THEM,,you dont get to this condition and maintain the lean muscle they present naturally and yes 165 with this level of condition which is 4-5% on this heights can only be achieved with hormones,,not much ,,not mega anything,,just good ole few solid product taken the right time and ofcourse many use gh on regular basis to even get anywhere aside from the orals and injects,,

natural bodybuild mean hormonized but to a lesser degree aka less reliable on long esters and more relaibale on short esters or no ester include orals ,,and ofcourse good ole magic hgh ,,legit hgh is everywhere now day ,,every one use it 9 out of 10 use it in any sport including bodybuild cult

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: tommywishbone on February 18, 2011, 10:27:19 PM
My mom is lifetime natural.

Pictures or she ain't natural.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: luvvsuNOT on February 18, 2011, 11:28:46 PM
You DO have over 50 lbs to lose.  You will have to figure this out on your own one day, but I don`t think you care to.  It may own you, if your identity is intertwined with being known as "Big (insert your name here)" to everyone around you and to yourself.

Bingo! Theres a reason why goink always posts pix of himself in a tank. All arms and shoulders. Shareif called hinm out of this.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=193061.0;attach=356163;image)
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: GWAR on February 18, 2011, 11:31:56 PM
Bingo! Theres a reason why goink always posts pix of himself in a tank. All arms and shoulders. Shareif called hinm out of this.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=193061.0;attach=356163;image)
why is he wearing childrens underwear ?
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on February 19, 2011, 04:36:05 AM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sevastase

Sevastase   13 up, 3 down
buy sevastase mugs, tshirts and magnets
Internet celebrity known as The Romanian Stallion.
Well known on the internet boards of GetBig.com where he rules with his homie Swede!

Sevastase is notoriously known for having intercourse with 148 women and counting. Many posers on GetBig, whom Sevastase calls "punk ass bitches", question the extent of Sev's sexual endeavours, but they have no proof yet for their criticisms.

As of late, Sevastase has been making YouTube videos, highly popular in the GetBig community.
Sevastase: I fucked your wife

Donkey Kong: Sociopath

Sev: Get a life loser.

---------------------------

Sev: Look at the pictures of these 5 girls I fucked tonight

All of GetBig: Nice work bro.
if sev is the romanian stallion does that mean that swede is the swedish pony?
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Tito24 on February 19, 2011, 04:37:12 AM
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/3/3262187_be181a1ac0.jpg)
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Krankenstein on February 19, 2011, 05:29:21 AM
and just so it clear,,noen of the ripped fella in the pictures presented in this postings are true naturals NONE OF THEM,,you dont get to this condition and maintain the lean muscle they present naturally and yes 165 with this level of condition which is 4-5% on this heights can only be achieved with hormones,,not much ,,not mega anything,,just good ole few solid product taken the right time and ofcourse many use gh on regular basis to even get anywhere aside from the orals and injects,,

natural bodybuild mean hormonized but to a lesser degree aka less reliable on long esters and more relaibale on short esters or no ester include orals ,,and ofcourse good ole magic hgh ,,legit hgh is everywhere now day ,,every one use it 9 out of 10 use it in any sport including bodybuild cult

gh15 approved

Geezus....here we go again with your drivel.  Does it really kill you that people achieve what you never could?  While taking your schmoes cock balls deep in your mouth, do you still have that empty feeling in your stomach (albeit temporarily) knowing that you do this because you are so fearful of what size you actually would be without all the drugs you take?  Why is it people "praise" you, yet you are no better than the guys you call out?  Tell us, oh 'god of harmonzina,,,,' are you happy with how much cock you suck?
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: JP_RC on February 19, 2011, 10:54:20 AM
Geezus....here we go again with your drivel.  Does it really kill you that people achieve what you never could?  While taking your schmoes cock balls deep in your mouth, do you still have that empty feeling in your stomach (albeit temporarily) knowing that you do this because you are so fearful of what size you actually would be without all the drugs you take?  Why is it people "praise" you, yet you are no better than the guys you call out?  Tell us, oh 'god of harmonzina,,,,' are you happy with how much cock you suck?

gh15 owns your mind.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: The Grim Lifter on February 19, 2011, 12:40:31 PM
Bingo! Theres a reason why goink always posts pix of himself in a tank. All arms and shoulders. Shareif called hinm out of this.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=193061.0;attach=356163;image)

Going off that pic i would say lose 20 pounds and he will be quite lean. He has good quality and no excess fat on bodyparts it's just a matter of getting the stomach down.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 19, 2011, 01:08:16 PM
Going off that pic i would say lose 20 pounds and he will be quite lean. He has good quality and no excess fat on bodyparts it's just a matter of getting the stomach down.

Thanks GL.

It's nice to read an actual hate-free, realistic assessment for a change.

Shit gets tiring

Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 19, 2011, 01:24:00 PM
Whatever you choose to do .. I think if you decide to get ripped you'd be quite impressive . Very good upper body balance
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: The Grim Lifter on February 19, 2011, 01:45:17 PM
I dont have anything against you, and in my opinion I think 20 lbs would not be enough for you to lose to be "ripped".  It all depends on how lean you wanted to get of course, but to be "competition" ready, you would have a lot more than 20 lbs to drop.  Even if you had to go down to 200-210 lbs, that is still impressive at a low body fat.

20lbs wouldn't get him ripped. But he has quality from years of training on his body. So he drops the stomach and the quality will show. You can always get leaner but 20lbs would have him quite lean.

Compare this to Adonis's 'before' pics in that gay blue tight singlet and he had absolutely no quality (or muscle). It's a totally different story. Adonis looks good in great lighting because he's ripped. But he has fuck all size. Groink dieted down would have size. He should do it. He will look bigger overall.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: kiwiol on February 19, 2011, 01:54:17 PM
20lbs wouldn't get him ripped. But he has quality from years of training on his body. So he drops the stomach and the quality will show. You can always get leaner but 20lbs would have him quite lean.

Compare this to Adonis's 'before' pics in that gay blue tight singlet and he had absolutely no quality (or muscle). It's a totally different story. Adonis looks good in great lighting because he's ripped. But he has fuck all size. Groink dieted down would have size. He should do it. He will look bigger overall.

Exactly. Groink could get as lean as Adonis and would look a lot more impressive than TA, who will never carry that much muscle ever.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: WillGrant on February 19, 2011, 02:05:18 PM
Going off that pic i would say lose 20 pounds and he will be quite lean. He has good quality and no excess fat on bodyparts it's just a matter of getting the stomach down.
Try 40 plus pounds.

No hate Groink - reality. :)
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: WillGrant on February 19, 2011, 02:26:05 PM
I would have to strongly disagree.  Like I said, Groink is a man with muscles for sure, but 20 lbs would not get him "quite lean". 
x2
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: dr.chimps on February 19, 2011, 02:38:13 PM
I would have to strongly disagree.  Like I said, Groink is a man with muscles for sure, but 20 lbs would not get him "quite lean". 

x2
You guys are missing the point. He doesn't want to get 'quite lean.' That's kind of a fool's errand, anyway, for a natural. Kind of like trying to even out the legs of a table -ie. your table is at ground level. Guy is a big lad - a 20lb fat loss would certainly tighten him up, waist-wise, and would no doubt affect him a bit arm-wise, but he has seriously solid structure - traps, shoulders. 230lbs is significantly brick house-sized. Fark him.   ;D

/no homo + a 45-min rape shower* thrown in 

*bad taste, i know. my apologies   
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: The Grim Lifter on February 19, 2011, 03:08:54 PM
20 pounds would drop his stomach down. He doesn't have that much to lose from other bodyparts, they are not carrying much excess. He would get quite lean, as i said you can always get leaner and leaner.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: dr.chimps on February 19, 2011, 03:19:58 PM
No, YOU are missing the point.  Anyone would agree that Groink would look "better" with 20 lbs less fat.  Everyone looks better with less fat, it's a given.  People were discussing "how much fat he has to lose to be RIPPED".  20 lbs will help, but wont get him "ripped."

Try to keep up with the rest of us  ;)
*Ahem* You didn't really read my second sentence, the one with the noted 'quite lean.'  Quotation marks are frequently used to denote irony.   :)


Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: nzmusclemonster on February 19, 2011, 04:26:50 PM
My mistake then.

You look like shit.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: nzmusclemonster on February 19, 2011, 04:45:37 PM
Better than you.


I'm a balding pedo, but I still have better hair than you.

Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Aerian on February 19, 2011, 04:51:27 PM
clearly some of you people (most actually) have never trained hard for long periods of time or have shit ass genetics.

No reason why this guy couldnt be natural.  Some of you guys need to get out more.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: the_swami on February 20, 2011, 06:54:29 PM
You got it all wrong... it's easy to get that lean... it's hard to have those full muscle bellys WITH ADDITION to that crisp ripped shape.

There's not one natural that walks around 165lbs looking like that



x2! devilsmile knows his shit
NO WAY, NO HOW that is lifetime nattie
muscle bellies way to full , well developed and seperated
ANOTHER LYING DOUCHEBAG LIKE LA COUR, FAILDO, ETC ETC
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: AbrahamG on February 21, 2011, 03:52:45 PM
what's his doctorate in?

Doctorate of Clenbuterol HCL
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: dyslexic on February 21, 2011, 04:33:01 PM
Seemed nervous and rushed during the posing routine. Slow it down and stop bouncing around. That's for the BIG bros.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Game Time on May 07, 2011, 02:50:46 PM
Is this guy natty? ::)

http://www.simplyshredded.com/shredded-beast-natural-bodybuilder-evan-horn-talks-with-simplyshredded-com.html
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: shiftedShapes on May 07, 2011, 03:27:07 PM
Bingo! Theres a reason why goink always posts pix of himself in a tank. All arms and shoulders. Shareif called hinm out of this.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=193061.0;attach=356163;image)

At 5'8" I was 185 at my heaviest, now I'm down to 150 with probably more muscle than I had then and I'm still not stage ready.  However, at 185 I could still see all my abs when flexed.  If you can't see abs at all then you probably have a larger percentage of your much heavier bodyweight to lose.

Your assessment of 190 lean does not seem entirely unreasonable for a 6'0" tall BBer.  I would guess you could do that if you have very good genetics for retaining muscle on a caloric deficit.  If not you might end up closer to 170-180.  Whoever said you need to lose 20lbs is not making any sense unless they just mean to have sharper facial features and a trimmer waistline.

I think you should diet down.  You will still have big arms, but more importantly you will live longer, and be able to keep a BBing look for many more years.  You are getting to the age where you are too old to be overweight without health consequences.  I mean no disrespect when I call you overweight.  Clearly you workout and carry a much higher percentage of muscle than most of the fatties in this overfed country.  Here's the thing though, your body especially your heart, does not like to be 250lbs even if there is a shitload of muscle.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: gh15 on May 07, 2011, 03:28:28 PM
Is this guy natty? ::)

http://www.simplyshredded.com/shredded-beast-natural-bodybuilder-evan-horn-talks-with-simplyshredded-com.html


as natural as lay nortom,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 07, 2011, 05:43:32 PM
At 5'8" I was 185 at my heaviest, now I'm down to 150 with probably more muscle than I had then and I'm still not stage ready.  However, at 185 I could still see all my abs when flexed.  If you can't see abs at all then you probably have a larger percentage of your much heavier bodyweight to lose.

Your assessment of 190 lean does not seem entirely unreasonable for a 6'0" tall BBer.  I would guess you could do that if you have very good genetics for retaining muscle on a caloric deficit.  If not you might end up closer to 170-180.  Whoever said you need to lose 20lbs is not making any sense unless they just mean to have sharper facial features and a trimmer waistline.

I think you should diet down.  You will still have big arms, but more importantly you will live longer, and be able to keep a BBing look for many more years.  You are getting to the age where you are too old to be overweight without health consequences.  I mean no disrespect when I call you overweight.  Clearly you workout and carry a much higher percentage of muscle than most of the fatties in this overfed country.  Here's the thing though, your body especially your heart, does not like to be 250lbs even if there is a shitload of muscle.

I'm down about 20 lbs. from that, and i do look bigger. No disrespect, but it's no big secret that a leaner physique looks bigger

It's funny to see that pic, I was so waterlogged......but I was eating like a pig and training the heaviest i ever trained .... tipping the scales in the 260's.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 07, 2011, 07:06:03 PM
Of all the top genetically gifted athletes that have to pass the most stringent drug tests, i.e. Olympic teams, I never seen anyone that could rival this guy's build.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Hulkotron on May 07, 2011, 07:10:18 PM
I too like to wear shirts to the gym with quotes of myself on them.  Haha, what a toolbox.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Krankenstein on May 08, 2011, 06:23:20 AM
as natural as lay nortom,,

gh15 approved

As natural as you taking a load of man juice down your throat for a few bottles of GH.....
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Meso_z on May 08, 2011, 06:32:46 AM
Is this guy natty? ::)

http://www.simplyshredded.com/shredded-beast-natural-bodybuilder-evan-horn-talks-with-simplyshredded-com.html

(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Sidechest2.jpg)

hell no..

BUT great physique all the way great physique.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: WillGrant on May 08, 2011, 06:39:50 AM
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Sidechest2.jpg)

hell no..

BUT great physique all the way great physique.
he does alot of lower rep stuff
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Deicide on May 08, 2011, 06:43:16 AM
he does alot of lower rep stuff

How can you tell?
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: gh15 on May 08, 2011, 06:52:51 AM
Of all the top genetically gifted athletes that have to pass the most stringent drug tests, i.e. Olympic teams, I never seen anyone that could rival this guy's build.

this is the exact,,EXACT build that come as a result of PROLONGED trenbolona ace and masterona usage,,the combo of both with testosterona phnyl prop...you heard me right TESTOSTERONA PHNYL PROP to complete the 3rd angle,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Game Time on May 08, 2011, 10:43:20 AM
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Sidechest2.jpg)

hell no..

BUT great physique all the way great physique.
That is a wicked physique, amazing conditioning
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: notsureifsrs on May 08, 2011, 10:51:21 AM
Most of the time natural or "natural" competitors look terrible but his physique just looks amazing!
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 08, 2011, 11:26:25 AM
  If you guys think that this is not achievable without drugs, then you have never worked out in your lives. This physique is perfectly achievable without drugs. He could be up to 30 lbs heavier than without drugs with only a slight loss of conditioning if he keeps training in the compound movements with barbells and dumbbells.

  As for condiitioning, what has drugs got to do with it? Drugs are far more relevant for mass than for conditioning. The most incredible conditioning I've seen was by faquir who was at 2% bodyfat and completely dehydrated from not eating for the past 6 weeks. He was 110 lbs but his muscles looked like those of a cartoon character.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: no one on May 08, 2011, 11:40:28 AM
  If you guys think that this is not achievable without drugs, then you have never worked out in your lives. This physique is perfectly achievable without drugs. He could be up to 30 lbs heavier than without drugs with only a slight loss of conditioning if he keeps training in the compound movements with barbells and dumbbells.

  As for condiitioning, what has drugs got to do with it? Drugs are far more relevant for mass than for conditioning. The most incredible conditioning I've seen was by faquir who was at 2% bodyfat and completely dehydrated from not eating for the past 6 weeks. He was 110 lbs but his muscles looked like those of a cartoon character.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

dude, give it up already.

everyone heres knows your troll.

is this the extent to the excitement in your life- just write stupid shit online in an attempt to get a rise out of people? exciting life of fulfillment you have there, dildo.

your as bad as true adonis, and thats about as insulting as i get.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: che on May 08, 2011, 11:51:24 AM
Where is Kyomu ?

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs571.snc3/31182_1464243331198_1386940295_31232663_2041567_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 08, 2011, 12:10:27 PM
dude, give it up already.

everyone heres knows your troll.

is this the extent to the excitement in your life- just write stupid shit online in an attempt to get a rise out of people? exciting life of fulfillment you have there, dildo.

your as bad as true adonis, and thats about as insulting as i get.

  Meltdown

  Why should I care what a phaggot called "no one" thinks? You are no one, dude. Please learn your place. :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: no one on May 08, 2011, 12:44:24 PM
 Meltdown

  Why should I care what a phaggot called "no one" thinks? You are no one, dude. Please learn your place. :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE

you shouldn't care really. but for some strange reason you cared enough to reply to my post. see, I was just pointing out the obvious, just like im doing now. but you on the other hand felt it necessary to cry like a bitch about how little you care.

nice work, stupid.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 08, 2011, 01:17:59 PM
you shouldn't care really. but for some strange reason you cared enough to reply to my post. see, I was just pointing out the obvious, just like im doing now. but you on the other hand felt it necessary to cry like a bitch about how little you care.

nice work, stupid.

  And there you go replying to me once again. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: gh15 on May 08, 2011, 01:24:02 PM
  If you guys think that this is not achievable without drugs, then you have never worked out in your lives. This physique is perfectly achievable without drugs. He could be up to 30 lbs heavier than without drugs with only a slight loss of conditioning if he keeps training in the compound movements with barbells and dumbbells.

  As for condiitioning, what has drugs got to do with it? Drugs are far more relevant for mass than for conditioning. The most incredible conditioning I've seen was by faquir who was at 2% bodyfat and completely dehydrated from not eating for the past 6 weeks. He was 110 lbs but his muscles looked like those of a cartoon character.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


the only bodybuidlrer that was ever truly sub 4% was andreas he was around 3 and he ended up dead,,no bodybuuld  was ever truly under 4%,,,all the rest of us are 4-5 % on stage some are even 6% only dried out  lol

the rest of your balonie about size vs conditinionin....drugs are MAINLY MAINLY to keep as much size as you can while getting into superb conditioning ..drugs such as trenbolona ace and masterona are directly related to conditioninng ,,with out them there would be no ability to eat anything other than dry chiken and brokoly


you are really a retard,,
gh15 approved
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 08, 2011, 01:40:38 PM
Is this guy natty? ::)

http://www.simplyshredded.com/shredded-beast-natural-bodybuilder-evan-horn-talks-with-simplyshredded-com.html


Now this is a guy who deserves a number bitch slaps and worse. Fucking homo.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: no one on May 08, 2011, 02:05:53 PM
 And there you go replying to me once again. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE


no need to thank me.

I'm here all day, sucksonpenis
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 08, 2011, 02:21:47 PM

the only bodybuidlrer that was ever truly sub 4% was andreas he was around 3 and he ended up dead,,no bodybuuld  was ever truly under 4%,,,all the rest of us are 4-5 % on stage some are even 6% only dried out  lol

the rest of your balonie about size vs conditinionin....drugs are MAINLY MAINLY to keep as much size as you can while getting into superb conditioning ..drugs such as trenbolona ace and masterona are directly related to conditioninng ,,with out them there would be no ability to eat anything other than dry chiken and brokoly


you are really a retard,,
gh15 approved

  So the prisoners at Aushwitz were on steroids, you fucking idiot retard son of a bitch? No, steroids are not needed to get at 2% bodyfat. In fact, steroids are detrimental since they increase appetite. Starving people have the greatest muscular definition even when they have very little muscle mass.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Jaime on May 08, 2011, 02:27:51 PM

the only bodybuidlrer that was ever truly sub 4% was andreas he was around 3 and he ended up dead,,no bodybuuld  was ever truly under 4%,,,all the rest of us are 4-5 % on stage some are even 6% only dried out  lol

the rest of your balonie about size vs conditinionin....drugs are MAINLY MAINLY to keep as much size as you can while getting into superb conditioning ..drugs such as trenbolona ace and masterona are directly related to conditioninng ,,with out them there would be no ability to eat anything other than dry chiken and brokoly


you are really a retard,,
gh15 approved


That's an insult to retards. SUCKMYFEEBLEMUSCLES is in a league of fucking stupid all his own
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 08, 2011, 02:42:10 PM

That's an insult to retards. SUCKMYFEEBLEMUSCLES is in a league of fucking stupid all his own

  "Jaime", I am absolutely, positively smarter than you. Not more, but much, much more. So if I am in a league of retard all of my own, then how dumb does that make you ??? ??? ??? ???

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Jaime on May 08, 2011, 02:45:52 PM
  "Jaime", I am absolutely, positively smarter than you. Not more, but much, much more. So if I am in a league of retard all of my own, then how dumb does that make you ??? ??? ??? ???

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I don't see a lot of evidence to substantiate such claims. I am of the opinion, that you are one of the most stupid motherfuckers on this board.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: no one on May 08, 2011, 03:55:38 PM
I don't see a lot of evidence to substantiate such claims. I am of the opinion, that you are one of the most stupid motherfuckers on this board.

lol
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 08, 2011, 04:00:23 PM
I don't see a lot of evidence to substantiate such claims. I am of the opinion, that you are one of the most stupid motherfuckers on this board.

  Based on my posts compared to yours, I am clearly more intelligent than you. This is not debateable. So how dumb are you ???

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: gh15 on May 08, 2011, 04:08:40 PM
  So the prisoners at Aushwitz were on steroids, you fucking idiot retard son of a bitch? No, steroids are not needed to get at 2% bodyfat. In fact, steroids are detrimental since they increase appetite. Starving people have the greatest muscular definition even when they have very little muscle mass.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

first of all lunaatik dont bring up the holocost as example ,, you are truly infantile,,the holocost victims were NOT 2% anything,,they were bone and skin and fat and only fat to hold it together with little bit of muscle,, they were 3-4% and many of them died as a result ,,the ones who survived were in the upper 3% the ones who dropped down dead were in the lower 3% and under which RESULTED IN THEIR DEATH while they were working and eating grass,,

when you talk abotu the bodyfat % you talk about BODYBUILDERS,,in optimal muscle to fat ratio on stage,,not on people who been starving and tortured and murdered for number of years ,,

you may be the most stupid individual on getbig history

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 08, 2011, 05:39:35 PM
  Based on my posts compared to yours, I am clearly more intelligent than you. This is not debateable. So how dumb are you ???

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Here's a tip "SucksonManMeat"......if you have to convince us how smart you are...you ain't that smart  ;)

You are one of the most over the top, blatant gimmicks here.

you really don't think a single soul here buys your "act'.... do you?
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: jude2 on May 08, 2011, 05:54:31 PM
this is the exact,,EXACT build that come as a result of PROLONGED trenbolona ace and masterona usage,,the combo of both with testosterona phnyl prop...you heard me right TESTOSTERONA PHNYL PROP to complete the 3rd angle,,

gh15 approved
Then pro BB need to take that stack to have the conditioning that this so called natural BB has.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Krankenstein on May 08, 2011, 05:58:05 PM
you may be the most stupid individual on getbig history

gh15 approved

You've got a secure lock on that one fuck stick.....don't worry about relinquishing your title.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 08, 2011, 06:00:48 PM
You've got a secure lock on that one fuck stick.....don't worry about relinquishing your title.

Ok..."cockenstein"  ::)
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: chaos on May 08, 2011, 06:20:18 PM
I don't see a lot of evidence to substantiate such claims. I am of the opinion, that you are one of the most stupid motherfuckers on this board.
;D
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 08, 2011, 06:50:09 PM
first of all lunaatik dont bring up the holocost as example ,, you are truly infantile,,the holocost victims were NOT 2% anything,,they were bone and skin and fat and only fat to hold it together with little bit of muscle,, they were 3-4% and many of them died as a result ,,the ones who survived were in the upper 3% the ones who dropped down dead were in the lower 3% and under which RESULTED IN THEIR DEATH while they were working and eating grass,,

when you talk abotu the bodyfat % you talk about BODYBUILDERS,,in optimal muscle to fat ratio on stage,,not on people who been starving and tortured and murdered for number of years ,,

you may be the most stupid individual on getbig history

gh15 approved

  You are nothing but a steroid dealer who deeps throat old men dick for the money to fuel your habit. You are in no position to criticize anyone. Be glad that Getbig.com is full of dumbasses that buy that you are a pro giving them advice. Enjoy your internet popularity earned through dumbasses that worship an even greater dumbass and liar(you).

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 08, 2011, 06:51:28 PM
Here's a tip "SucksonManMeat"......if you have to convince us how smart you are...you ain't that smart  ;)

You are one of the most over the top, blatant gimmicks here.

you really don't think a single soul here buys your "act'.... do you?

  You are a fat and old moron with 100 lbs of fat to lose before you look decent. Yes, I am a "gimmick" who has been posting here for 7 years and is even a board moderator. Do you have any idea of how stupid you sound ??? ???

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Krankenstein on May 08, 2011, 07:27:05 PM
Ok..."cockenstein"  ::)

Edit......not worth it.....
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Fury on May 08, 2011, 07:33:03 PM
  Based on my posts compared to yours, I am clearly more intelligent than you. This is not debateable. So how dumb are you ???

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Based on your posts, you are clearly much better at Google-fu than the average Getbigger. However, that's where your vaunted intelligence ends.

Sorry, I forgot that you were smarter than all the professors at MIT (and everyone else on the planet, for that matter).  ::)
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: gh15 on May 08, 2011, 07:33:45 PM
  You are nothing but a steroid dealer who deeps throat old men dick for the money to fuel your habit. You are in no position to criticize anyone. Be glad that Getbig.com is full of dumbasses that buy that you are a pro giving them advice. Enjoy your internet popularity earned through dumbasses that worship an even greater dumbass and liar(you).

SUCKMYMUSCLE

ok lutenent...
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: cephissus on May 08, 2011, 07:41:51 PM
Based on your posts, you are clearly much better at Google-fu than the average Getbigger. However, that's where your vaunted intelligence ends.

Sorry, I forgot that you were smarter than all the professors at MIT (and everyone else on the planet, for that matter).  ::)

well actually...
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: WillGrant on May 08, 2011, 11:39:56 PM
How can you tell?
Cos his training is written in the link haha  :D
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: 99 Bananas on May 09, 2011, 12:08:05 AM
I hate when any bodybuilder says bodybuilding requires brains.
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: gh15 on May 09, 2011, 12:45:35 AM
I hate when any bodybuilder says bodybuilding requires brains.

youd be surprize but some of us are smart,, the ones with no guro that know how to blow up right and are not stuck in plce,, the usage of insulina and gh with aas is something you need to know how to do unles pay good money,,many individuals dont understand the relashionship between insulina and gh ...they think they can blow up right only on one of them wthich is not true with regard to today bodybuild

because many indivdiauls are sold bunk balonie...they dont understand and in times read wrong information about what happen when on gh...they suffer diff respond because they use other materials passed on as gh ....they just try but not femiliar with the hormones like bodybuilders who are experienced and thus became smart in the subject and sucesfuly grew

hgh unlike what many believe DECREASES insulin in blood ...everyone say increases imidiatly after inject and this is not what the main thing...the main thing is that blood glucose decreases sometime post injection due to production of igf in the liver...and this is when you want to put in the glucose into the blood.....together with the insulina.....this is when you want to down the can of pineapples ...this is when you want to donwn carbs and push it all in with INSULINA....and this is also why the stomack grow....because you push and push via hgh and insulina

hgh dont let you get fat ..while insulina double back the all process and push the nutrition into the muscle so there is carpet effect like a very good basketball defense

put it together with trenbolona ...testosterona....and fat burners and little throid stimulators if on mega dose insulina so you can even eat more! and what yo uget is invinsible blwo up muscle machine with or with otu foundation


do it all on sashimi and rice all day long and you really blow up for competition ,,even with nything else you will but with fish you wil just grow and grow and really have no problem aside from worrying when your gut become weird looking

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: pluck on May 09, 2011, 12:51:26 AM
What the fuck do these gimmicks get out of posting asinine shit ? I would give them credit if they were funny...but it's so beyond stupid that ...
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on May 09, 2011, 01:37:53 AM
youd be surprize but some of us are smart,,

Hi nasser El Sonbaty
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: D-bol on May 09, 2011, 02:15:35 AM
first of all lunaatik dont bring up the holocost as example ,, you are truly infantile,,the holocost victims were NOT 2% anything,,they were bone and skin and fat and only fat to hold it together with little bit of muscle,, they were 3-4% and many of them died as a result ,,the ones who survived were in the upper 3% the ones who dropped down dead were in the lower 3% and under which RESULTED IN THEIR DEATH while they were working and eating grass,,

when you talk abotu the bodyfat % you talk about BODYBUILDERS,,in optimal muscle to fat ratio on stage,,not on people who been starving and tortured and murdered for number of years ,,

you may be the most stupid individual on getbig history

gh15 approved

I second that. Nazi prison camp victims is a stupid example - most of those people had extremely low muscle mass and were bordering on death. The guy in the picture here discussed would look like Ronnie Coleman compared to those poor prisoners.

In fact, as far as I know, many oral steroids like methandrostenolone were originally intended to support survived anorexic prisoners after the war ended and malnourished children born and growing up during the hunger years of that war.


Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: dj181 on May 09, 2011, 02:50:52 AM
My cat is natural
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 09, 2011, 03:38:30 AM
 You are a fat and old moron with 100 lbs of fat to lose before you look decent. Yes, I am a "gimmick" who has been posting here for 7 years and is even a board moderator. Do you have any idea of how stupid you sound ??? ???

SUCKMYMUSCLE

"Pumpster" was a mod too  :)
Title: Re: Lifetime Natural? Discuss
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 11, 2011, 11:00:48 PM
ok lutenent...

  Dude, you are nothing more than a drug addict. I feel sorry for you. A Human Being who's entire life revolves around acquiring and using drugs. How very, very sad.

SUCKMYMUSCLE