your threads are like Lee Priest arm training articlesAdmit it though, it's pretty accurate. These clowns humor me daily. Just trying to give back to the special community out there.
countless reiterations of the same topic
The retarded guy probably achieved more.
just sayin.....
Remember kids, looking average on steroids is no big feat, but tell yourself, "I did it!" and maybe it'll be worth the shots and dollars.
Jealous much? Typical hardcore natural. Bulked up for a peroid of time and dieted down only to discover that you gained only 1 pound of muscle? Or even worse lost some muscle after you dieted down? Then I bet you tried steroids and found out you are a poor responder. So now you make up for it by ridiculing steroid users because you think you work so much harder than they do.Couldn't be further off Chief. Tried one cycle at 18, almost 20 years back. Gained 30lbs in 2 months. Grew up, gained some integrity. Gained 50lbs lean mass no drugs.
Couldn't be further off Chief. Tried one cycle at 18, almost 20 years back. Gained 30lbs in 2 months. Grew up, gained some integrity. Gained 50lbs lean mass no drugs.
Any other theories?
BBing is a joke to the masses, due to the surplus of filthy drug users out there.
is similar to watching this guy.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=134835.0;attach=150665;image)
In his head, he just climbed a huge mountain and overcame the odds.
To everyone else, he's only pretending to be good at something others know is retarded. ;)
Remember kids, looking average on steroids is no big feat, but tell yourself, "I did it!" and maybe it'll be worth the shots and dollars.
Whoever this is got ripped off on his juice :-\
outstanding nipples
Gotta love a cheese mod actually taking time to find a shot of me, almost a decade ago..haha Then change the original post.
Looks like a struck a nerve here, as usual.
It only solidifies my point more. I went from that scrawny 150lbs mess, to 205lbs lean on zero drugs.
So again, if someone gains a few pounds on drugs and takes any pride in it, their a fool. ;)
Gotta love a cheese mod actually taking time to find a shot of me, almost a decade ago..haha Then change the original post.
Looks like a struck a nerve here, as usual.
It only solidifies my point more. I went from that scrawny 150lbs mess, to 205lbs lean on zero drugs.
So again, if someone gains a few pounds on drugs and takes any pride in it, their a fool. ;)
you are giving Danhead a run for his money in that pic.
you also look like you had a lobotomy
and you also look small and weak....particularly in the arm area
is similar to watching this guy.
(http://americanthings.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/special-olympics-by-blisstreedotcom.jpg)
In his head, he just climbed a huge mountain and overcame the odds.
To everyone else, he's only pretending to be good at something others know is retarded. ;)
Remember kids, looking average on steroids is no big feat, but tell yourself, "I did it!" ::)
you are giving Danhead a run for his money in that pic.Weak in the arm area? How about just plain weak. :D
you also look like you had a lobotomy
and you also look small and weak....particularly in the arm area
It's not where you start, it's where you finish.But how to get to the end result.
I have to agree with this.It's very simple. People in Vegas don't have much heart. Something that requires actual work, they're not about. Most want to play the bigshot, so maybe this means getting jacked. They realize they can't hack it naturally...by far, can't diet, don't have the genetics, dedication, etc. Right away on the juice. Plus, they see their silly buddies blow up and much like the sheep they are, they do the same.
Croatch,
Who do you think a lot of the juice heads out there in LV cant just eat smart and lift with consistency?
Is it that hard to focus out there?
You weren't taking pride in the 50 pounds your cycle put on you when you made that youtube video showing your six-month transformation? Pot meet kettle.50lbs roughly over one year (35lbs lean mass probably). No drugs.
Gotta love a cheese mod actually taking time to find a shot of me, almost a decade ago..haha Then change the original post.
Looks like a struck a nerve here, as usual.
It only solidifies my point more. I went from that scrawny 150lbs mess, to 205lbs lean on zero drugs.
So again, if someone gains a few pounds on drugs and takes any pride in it, their a fool. ;)
Couldn't be further off Chief. Tried one cycle at 18, almost 20 years back. Gained 30lbs in 2 months. Grew up, gained some integrity. Gained 50lbs lean mass no drugs.You wanna hear jokes Keep talking to yourself loser. Your such a self righouse uncle tom hypocrite piece of shit. You done more juice then 90% of the people on this board. The only difference is your inbred ass didn't gain so you never told anyone. Your fat. your not lean. Your divorced.... Why cause your a limp dick mother fucker who could please a fat chick with a 12 pack of hot dogs. You come on this board talking shit as if you know anything. And you tell us you gained integrity..... lmfao where? You wouldn't even know how to spell integrity without spell check. Your a fall down... A never was. Cant even call you a has been. STFU with your idiotic rants abouts shit you don't understand. If anyone decides to take steroids I hope they educate themselves and are willing to put in the extra effort it takes to properly undergo a cycle.
Any other theories?
BBing is a joke to the masses, due to the surplus of filthy drug users out there.
50lbs roughly over one year (35lbs lean mass probably). No drugs.35 lbs of lean muscle naturally in one year. eat a dick you fucking bullshitting homphobe.
I'm sure that's incomprehensible to somebody such as yourself, but not everyone was cut out for bbing.
It's the old adage, if I can't, there's no way he could.
It's this defeatist attitude that is rampant in gyms everywhere and the downfall of what has become bbing today. Fails everywhere.
You wanna hear jokes Keep talking to yourself loser. Your such a self righouse uncle tom hypocrite piece of shit. You done more juice then 90% of the people on this board. The only difference is your inbred ass didn't gain so you never told anyone. Your fat. your not lean. Your divorced.... Why cause your a limp dick mother fucker who could please a fat chick with a 12 pack of hot dogs. You come on this board talking shit as if you know anything. And you tell us you gained integrity..... lmfao where? You wouldn't even know how to spell integrity without spell check. Your a fall down... A never was. Cant even call you a has been. STFU with your idiotic rants abouts shit you don't understand. If anyone decides to take steroids I hope they educate themselves and are willing to put in the extra effort it takes to properly undergo a cycle.haha, Steroid induced meltdown.
You need to see someone about your homophobic ideas and stop coming on here and trying to have your fast worthless ass validated by other men via the internet
you coudnt even break 170lb drug free you are a joke,, 205 lean lol,,you are the exact numbers of the steroid boarding foold that play with 190-220 12 to 8% lolYou're the typical loser I'm talking about in gyms. "If I can't, there's no way he can." haha ::)
205 lean lol
you with no hormones = 167-172 lb on a very very very wet day and not 6% try 9-10%,,thats yor CLEAN numbers my friend : )
gh15 approved
35 lbs of lean muscle naturally in one year. eat a dick you fucking bullshitting homphobe.Happens often, believe it or not. Not after having a base built and training consistent for years. Since, I've really only changed my body composition.
haha, Steroid induced meltdown.
I suggest joining a bicycle club or bowling league. BBing isn't for you Champ.You're the typical loser I'm talking about in gyms. "If I can't, there's no way he can." haha ::)
Happens often, believe it or not. Not after having a base built and training consistent for years. Since, I've really only changed my body composition.
Here's a tip, instead of trying to bash factual posts, you should be asking me for diet advice and thanking me for posting here.
Croatch, I'm not close enough to tell you to do anything, but you might want to consider getting some psychiatric help.
it is clear you have OCD problems.
actually ....the reason i know you are on and never actualy off for a logn time,,is nto due to your marvelous body because youre very average,,it is because i train 100s like you ,,you can see them on the generation nothingness face books,,they all look same as you ,,same exact thing,,let me find you example wait ill show you what i mean,,all your 30-40 year old bodybuild wanna be from all over the countries but ill find you americano ones,,they also go 220 to 180 like you it is in he 190s when hormonized and single digit or when clean for 2 weeks lol and in the 200+ when hormonized and in the low doubles ....wait a sec ill show you yourself lol waitIt's hard to respond to random banter, but I think I almost made sense of that post.
gh15 approved
Took me a second. A+ ;D
How about a current pic....Headquarters?
you coudnt even break 170lb drug free you are a joke,, 205 lean lol,,you are the exact numbers of the steroid boarding foold that play with 190-220 12 to 8% lol
205 lean lol
you with no hormones = 167-172 lb on a very very very wet day and not 6% try 9-10%,,thats yor CLEAN numbers my friend : )
gh15 approved
You know the deal. No point. Too big, you're on gear, too small...fucking swimmer, look good...no legs.
How about a current pic....Headquarters?
haha, Steroid induced meltdown.Your a failure at life and a failure here on GETBIG.COM I was 205 in the 11th grade. I currently walk around at 275 with 10%bf. I don't train for anything other than myself. I'm what you call a big mother fucking farm boy. I don't knock anyone for taking juice. Its a personal choice. I have done several small cycles over the years myself. However you are a fucking short fat hypocrite. You've been telling lies so long your delusional. You don't even know whether your on steroids at this time or not. STFU and let people be. If your so smart and so strong and so good at everything then You should be above petty arguments on the internet. You expose your ignorance every time you post
I suggest joining a bicycle club or bowling league. BBing isn't for you Champ.You're the typical loser I'm talking about in gyms. "If I can't, there's no way he can." haha ::)
That's pretty close. I actually somewhat agree with you, especially, if I remember correctly he's 5'8. Oh well, maybe he's just one of those genetic freaks........like Brian Cushing ;DI thought I was 5'8", but recently realized I'm 5'7 1/2", basically a tall dwarf.
You know the deal. No point. Too big, you're on gear, too small...fucking swimmer, look good...no legs.
However, I don't care really.
Your a failure at life and a failure here on GETBIG.COM I was 205 in the 11th grade. I currently walk around at 275 with 10%bf. I don't train for anything other than myself. I'm what you call a big mother fucking farm boy. I don't knock anyone for taking juice. Its a personal choice. I have done several small cycles over the years myself. However you are a fucking short fat hypocrite. You've been telling lies so long your delusional. You don't even know whether your on steroids at this time or not. STFU and let people be. If your so smart and so strong and so good at everything then You should be above petty arguments on the internet. You expose your ignorance every time you postEasy boy. You're melting all over the screen.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=134835.0;attach=150665;image)
Whoever this is got ripped off on his juice :-\
Dude, I loved you in The fighter!Bale had a few pounds on me there.
Easy boy. You're melting all over the screen.Its funny you keep using the term meltdown. However I am not sure you truly understand the term. You're multiple post in a row and you're undying will to p[rove you're point are infact a huge internal meltdown. You're fat. Your not ripped. You're not a BB you looked like a pissed off smurf. You're retorts are a joke. You truly are pathectic. I'm guessing suicide in 8 to 10 days
Let people be? Wtf are you, a 3rd grade teacher?
Next thing you know you'll be telling me about the "golden rule".
haha
Bale had a few pounds on me there.
Just watched that the other day...ahah
Gotta love when he launches out of the 2nd story window into the trash bin.
Its funny you keep using the term meltdown. However I am not sure you truly understand the term. You're multiple post in a row and you're undying will to p[rove you're point are infact a huge internal meltdown. You're fat. Your not ripped. You're not a BB you looked like a pissed off smurf. You're retorts are a joke. You truly are pathectic. I'm guessing suicide in 8 to 10 daysFat at 7%bf.
I thought I was 5'8", but recently realized I'm 5'7 1/2", basically a tall dwarf.
I wouldn't say my genetic are great, but surpass most because let's face it, most people train for shit and eat worse.
200lbs is really nothing big, for 5'7" pretty decent, yet blocky.
Point being, most can't attain mediocrity on drugs. Why they continue, is beyond me. My new suggestion, start collecting stamps instead. ;)
It's hard to respond to random banter, but I think I almost made sense of that post.
If very average is 205lbs lean, I'm happy to be average. I don't see all these average natural bbers when I train, but I'll keep an eye out.
You're one of the more foolish posters on here. Keep it coming. A getbig delegate for sure.
i want to understand something,,do you think you are better bodybuildr and look better than fella i put in pictures? this fella in gym wipe the floor with you im telling you that and look at him in pictures lol its not even funny how sad it is ,,you are about same level you and him but he! atleast admit to the usage of superdrol....and the usage of testosterona,,and the usage of npp and the usage of winstrol and the usage of many other hormones that go in and out like a train coming in and out of a station ,,If you want to believe I take something to get to a "massive" 200lbs, then tell yourself that. It's irrelevant to me. I take glutamine and eggs. Any other theories?
you and him are same level giev or take few products,,
gh15 approved
If you want to believe I take something to get to a "massive" 200lbs, then tell yourself that. It's irrelevant to me. I take glutamine and eggs. Any other theories?
I have one, not everyone needs drugs to accomplish a small feat in the gym. You wouldn't know about this though. Remember, bbing isn't for everyone, though so many pretend to be one. Stick with drug use, natural bbing is too difficult for the average fella like yourself.
It takes years of consistency and slightly above average genes. 2 things most don't have.
At least guys like you workout right. Most don't even go to a gym.
I have something that will put a smile on Croatch's face. A 100% drug free lifter setting a world record. Nothing but blood, sweat and tears for years and years - the way it should be done.
what the fuck was that?
I have something that will put a smile on Croatch's face. A 100% drug free lifter setting a world record. Nothing but blood, sweat and tears for years and years - the way it should be done.Holy shit, the dumbest video I've ever crossed. I'm going to start lifting things 2", then putting "NEW WORLD RECORD" on the screen. Wasn't even a full rep.
Fat at 7%bf.true I dont post pics on the internet. I have no desire to be jacked of to by gay men like yourself.
Gotta love getbig.
Hey, on another note, I'd lay money you have zero shots up.
Am I right?
Getbig, where you can truly be as big as you want, just by posting.
Ta ta Champ. ;)
Holy shit, the dumbest video I've ever crossed. I'm going to start lifting things 2", then putting "NEW WORLD RECORD" on the screen. Wasn't even a full rep.theres 5 plates per side there you blind dumb shit
Shrugs are such a small movement, doing 4 plates isn't much for 10 reps.
A World Record Shrug?Looked like he just unracked it and leaned back a bit with it. And I've being doing them wrongly for years. *smacks head*
theres 5 plates per side there yuou blind dumb shitI was stating, in general...doing 4 plates for 10 is nothing.
Holy shit, the dumbest video I've ever crossed. I'm going to start lifting things 2", then putting "NEW WORLD RECORD" on the screen. Wasn't even a full rep.
Shrugs are such a small movement, doing 4 plates isn't much for 10 reps.
This is the type of gentleman that laughs at guys like you he sees in the gym. Him: lifetime natural buffed gentleman with a world record AND he is a Doctor with, no doubt, a large bank account. You: steroid popping dude in string tank top with armband tattoo carrying a gallon jug of water on his way to the next workout station. Don't forget the mean "hardcore" frown on the face as you spot someone slightly more jacked.You call that guy buff? World record? You're joking on this one right. Almost got me.
Looking good, Croatch.Stopped drinking Myoplex a while back, when they wouldn't sponsor me with my commercial. Bill Phillips...wtf is wrong with that guy. 11 on the creepy gay-dar meter.
You still downing Myoplex in-between gaming, posting and rubbing one out?
You call that guy buff? World record? You're joking on this one right. Almost got me.Stopped drinking Myoplex a while back, when they wouldn't sponsor me with my commercial. Bill Phillips...wtf is wrong with that guy. 11 on the creepy gay-dar meter.Why were they supposed to sponsor you?
I have something that will put a smile on Croatch's face. A 100% drug free lifter setting a world record. Nothing but blood, sweat and tears for years and years - the way it should be done.There is NO way that guy is drug free!! He's HUUUUUUUGE
Why were they supposed to sponsor you?I was joking of course.
I was joking of course.no you were lying as usual. Your a fuckig loser. Which is how you have time to come on here day after day and talk shit. I dotn need to post pics to get your approval. Im a real man. Your weak your broke and look like shit. go buy a mirror and look at your pathectic life.
no you were lying as usual. Your a fuckig loser. Which is how you have time to come on here day after day and talk shit. I dotn need to post pics to get your approval. Im a real man. Your weak your broke and look like shit. go buy a mirror and look at your pathectic life.Do you know what video Kiwol was even referring to? If you saw it, you'd see it was a spoof. Claiming a sponsorship from it would be ridiculous.
Holy fuck, that was you when you just started hormones? :-[ btw nice "natural" puffy nipples ::)No, that's in 2002...many years after doing one cycle in 94' and not lifting at all for years.
Everyone here knows that you use steroids, what do you think? people will think you are natural and respect you for that? That's pretty sad.
Is that... Frankenstein?
Looks like Renee Toney to meIt's your average female bodybuilder tribute, of course.
Weak in the arm area? How about just plain weak. :D
My head look like someone stretched in a reverse vice.But how to get to the end result.It's very simple. People in Vegas don't have much heart. Something that requires actual work, they're not about. Most want to play the bigshot, so maybe this means getting jacked. They realize they can't hack it naturally...by far, can't diet, don't have the genetics, dedication, etc. Right away on the juice. Plus, they see their silly buddies blow up and much like the sheep they are, they do the same.
See, Vegas attracts the fake crowd. Implants, steroids, clen...doesn't really matter. They all buy into the fact that they "look good", meanwhile, most look horrid. Especially the middle aged women trying to hold it together with mild roid cycles and implants. Disgusting.
It's your average female bodybuilder tribute, of course.
(http://melville.inmycommunity.com.au/_uploads/images/myblogs/female_body_builders10.jpg)
Pretty much the same right.
Manlier than getting a battle wound cauterized with a red hot knife
you need to undertsand somethign friend,,205 8-10% is not average for natural ,,but you are NOT natural you arre nto even clean....you are hormonized,,
you present the epidome of hormone use,,you are exactly what a natural woudl be 8-10% 180 + another 20lb that came from ALL TOGETHER NOW....
H O R M O N E S lol you sucesfuly mainted same body fat that a natural would be at 180....you are running 190-200lb 8-10 % hormonized....taking height into consideration you did exactly what average gymn rat that dedicate to lifting and bodybuild do....they add between 20-40lb from natursal limit and maintain about same body fat especialy if on gh but even with out it if young enough ,,
the end !
gh15 approved
These are my NATTY pics GH15. Theyre about a year or so old and above your bullshit top level of where a natty can be. You don't know anything about natural bodybuilding. Only the anabolic side. Speak about things you know about.Never workout at my gym. Your genes are too good. You wouldn't fit in..haha
ahahahahahahhha epic thread backfire. someone put the midget with the tough guy tats on a suicide watch.No backfire at all. Just me busting out another no pic fool, such as yourself.
Thanks Croatch.The funny thing, you post a shot, looks well above average...my comment, nice job. Not...you must be on something because nobody could be better than me. ::)
I'm just sick of reading GH15's rants about everyone and their mother's being "hormonized" etc. just because they have a decent build. You'd really think one that is a known user would easily be able to spot a non-user.
Keep up the good work and great build.
These are my NATTY pics GH15. Theyre about a year or so old and above your bullshit top level of where a natty can be. You don't know anything about natural bodybuilding. Only the anabolic side. Speak about things you know about.::)
::)"If I couldn't, nobody can."
::)
Smacks of a steroid abuser's jealousy.
Why don't you explain your rolled eyes>?
"If I couldn't, nobody can."
::) Come on. The "competitor" stars alone tell me you need drugs to lift, then justify it by going after $3 trophies.
Show some respect.
get fucked, nothing natural about those arms, dont try and lie to me like you lie to your self
I have something that will put a smile on Croatch's face. A 100% drug free lifter setting a world record. Nothing but blood, sweat and tears for years and years - the way it should be done.hahahahaha that was hilarious
ive got more sense than to start shit with anyone with tatts as hardcore as yoursShut your mouth. Show some respect for someone who's gained twice what you have and without drugs.
Shut your mouth. Show some respect for someone who's gained twice what you have and without drugs.
The only thing you should be typing is, "Hey, what do you do for chest and how's your diet?"
get fucked, nothing natural about those arms, dont try and lie to me like you lie to your self
Implants, steroids, clen...doesn't really matter. They all buy into the fact that they "look good", meanwhile, most look horrid. .
These are my NATTY pics GH15. Theyre about a year or so old and above your bullshit top level of where a natty can be. You don't know anything about natural bodybuilding. Only the anabolic side. Speak about things you know about.
looks goodhahaha what a desperate old whore....
Thanks Croatch.
I'm just sick of reading GH15's rants about everyone and their mother's being "hormonized" etc. just because they have a decent build. You'd really think one that is a known user would easily be able to spot a non-user.
Keep up the good work and great build.
you hate those who you feel are fake, but cover yourself in gay tattoos.2 faced, are we still in high school Chief? Next thing you'll be calling me "fake". How's that pic coming along? Too frightening to post, I'm sure.
the ultimate in self ownage.
you see croatch- you want to be just like those people. thats why you get that gay flash art- for attention, just like chicks who get silicone do.
your the biggest 2 faced guy on here.
i left school at 16 weighing more than you with out barely training, get a grip...........I'm sure you looked so good, you turned to drugs as an adult. Reality check bro.
Thanks Croatch.
I'm just sick of reading GH15's rants about everyone and their mother's being "hormonized" etc. just because they have a decent build. You'd really think one that is a known user would easily be able to spot a non-user.
Keep up the good work and great build.
You know the deal. No point. Too big, you're on gear, too small...fucking swimmer, look good...no legs.
However, I don't care really.
GH15,
Are you saying it is impossible for a human to look like Croatch or Coltrane with out the use of drugs??? ???
You must not know shit about nutrition or training if you think those guys physiques are Beyond the limits of human genetics.
These guy's IQ must be around 50. I mean, they really expect people from a BODYBUILDING board believe they're natural, LOL. I understand if you lie IRL to your friends and family, because roids are a tabu for "normal" people after all.That's the point, why would you lie about being natural? Pointless.
But coming to a bodybuilding board, claiming to have exceptional genetics and natty status when you are juicing and juicing... wtf is wrong with you? You are not earning money this way, why do you do it? For "respect"? it must be that, and that's pretty sad
You look good there but it's hardly "big". You've got some crappy looking juiceheads in Vegas if you actually are bigger.Pics are deceiving. Next time out, we'll train together...you'll see what I mean. There are some bigger juicers, but most look like dogshit. Size isn't everything in bbing, as you know.
needs to be banned..qft
completely counterproductive to this bbing board
or he needs to just post on the steroids board
people who are actually here to share lifting advice
and share pictures, videos...
are being constantly stalked by this gimmick
how is that fair to people who genuinly naturally love lifting and want to share
RON NEEDS TO BAN this character been allowed to run too loose on these boards
is similar to watching this guy.
(http://americanthings.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/special-olympics-by-blisstreedotcom.jpg)
In his head, he just climbed a huge mountain and overcame the odds.
To everyone else, he's only pretending to be good at something others know is retarded. ;)
Remember kids, looking average on steroids is no big feat, but tell yourself, "I did it!" ::)
THESE ARE HUGE NATURAL BOOBS! !!!!!!
This is Get Big. You come here for lifting advice? Sharing pictures? Videos? Seriously?it used to be...
This place is not for people who genuinely love lifting.
it used to be...
i dont mind the funnies and owning and what not
some people dont believe im natural ... that cool i can live with that...
i know i am so i take the disbelief as sort of a compliment
but this gimmick (SEV) shouldnt be allowed to follow people around spouting his nonsense
thats not fair to people who genuinly come here to share lifting experiences pics vids etc
and have a bit of banter.
following people around who have ACTUALLY contributed and harassing slandering them is not fair
NEEDS to be banned
He's probably the same guy that's behing the "SteroidsR4Losers" account on youtube.
theres 5 plates per side there you blind dumb shit
ahahahahahahhha epic thread backfire. someone put the midget with the tough guy tats on a suicide watch.best post ever lol
That's the point, why would you lie about being natural?so why do you lie about being natural. Oh I get it Its because you look like shit anyway and looking that bad and being on juice is just pathetic
Croatch seems like an obsessed psycho.x2
He's probably the same guy that's behing the "SteroidsR4Losers" account on youtube.
He reaks of jealousy. Steroids didn't work for him. He desperately wants to look like a bodybuilder though. So he is bitter and lashes out every day.
Must really suck to be him.
Croatch, no matter how loud you claim your "natural" status,well said. Truth is it doesnt matter if he is on juice, However why lie to everyone when no one cared enough to even ask ???
The cold hard truth you refuse to accept is -
You have used steroids.
You can NEVER make the claim that youre natural. Just clean.
Doesnt matter how you explain it to yourself.
Doesnt matter how loud you protest.
You have used steroids.
From then forwards, you are CLEAN, not NATURAL.
This is fact. Undisputable fact.
I suggest you learn to deal with it and stop lieing to people.
so why do you lie about being natural. Oh I get it Its because you look like shit anyway and looking that bad and being on juice is just patheticShow my pic to your girl, she'll tell you how bad I look.
Croatch, no matter how loud you claim your "natural" status,Are you really trying a case to a jury here? Ridiculous.
The cold hard truth you refuse to accept is -
You have used steroids.
You can NEVER make the claim that youre natural. Just clean.
Doesnt matter how you explain it to yourself.
Doesnt matter how loud you protest.
You have used steroids.
From then forwards, you are CLEAN, not NATURAL.
This is fact. Undisputable fact.
I suggest you learn to deal with it and stop lieing to people.
Show my pic to your girl, she'll tell you how bad I look.Of course you do, sociology at its finest.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=370498.0;attach=407247;image)Are you really trying a case to a jury here? Ridiculous.
Call it clean or natural, I could care less. If you go from A-B, I consider it natural. If you took sauce, kept some gains, then put on additional weight...clean.Whichever term you go with, is irrelevant.
Point is, someone taking pride in steroid gains, is like watching a retarded kid raise his arms in VICTORY as he gets the 4th place ribbon in the local meet 40 yard hurdles.
It means nothing...is the point. Anyone can make big gains with enough drugs, we've seen it happen time and time again.
So, that was the idea of the thread...my gains and clean/natural status are secondary.
I'm sure you looked so good, you turned to drugs as an adult. Reality check bro.
it used to be...
i dont mind the funnies and owning and what not
some people dont believe im natural ... that cool i can live with that...
i know i am so i take the disbelief as sort of a compliment
but this gimmick (SEV) shouldnt be allowed to follow people around spouting his nonsense
thats not fair to people who genuinly come here to share lifting experiences pics vids etc
and have a bit of banter.
following people around who have ACTUALLY contributed and harassing slandering them is not fair
NEEDS to be banned
X2....this guys got me on drugs I've never heard of
You are fucking insane. That gh15 is allowed to post here is what sets this board apart from all others. What he says about the steroid user's mindset and what he says about natural limits and such is what every bodybuilder with experience knows (even if they disagree slightly they'll admit there's thought and experience behind it)... but you can't say this on any of the other big bodybuilding boards where they are selling a lie, even under the banner of "No Bull". This cult is fucking sick with it's Ron Harrises and Kiyoshi Moodys and Chris Faildos and we need a fucking redeemer. :D
There's no fucking way gh15 is Sevestase. ::)
The above guy is an example of the sickness. I really don't get it, a 40+ year old man playing a character on the internet for years... for what? ???
i dont like you jamica boy ,, i really resally dont like you ,,now ill make a deal with you you do a poll who need to go you or gh15,,the loser go and never come back ,,DEAL?
you got 24 hour to respond you lieing piece of shit
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That's the point, why would you lie about being natural? Pointless.Pics are deceiving. Next time out, we'll train together...you'll see what I mean. There are some bigger juicers, but most look like dogshit. Size isn't everything in bbing, as you know.
croatch- heres a serious question, feel free to answer it or not.BBing is not about drugs, yet people pretend every day to do something, they can not. It's hard to watch. Much like a female who gets a surgery and is now deemed "hot". It's ridiculous. I respect real gains and females with real tits. We live in a society filled with fake clowns and it's old already. Not every woman was supposed to be given fat tits, accept it and move on. I'm not a fan of fake or usually the people who subscribe to it.
why do you care so much what someone does to their body- if they take clen- if they use steroids- if they get implants?
i cant understand why you have grudge with guys who use since you are 'clean', does it bother you so much that you will never be on their level, or attract the attention they get from hot women? is it because you facially resemble something that lives under a bridge that causes you to be so bitter?
i think if i can try really hard i can understand why you feel so insignificant compared to those that use steroids- but seriously- what the fuck is it to you if a girl gets implants? lol
are you really so insecure that you have to constantly put people down to feel better about yourself, cause thats exactly how you come across.
you will never be on their levelThis is amusing, to say the least. There a few guys...who look better, are bigger, etc...but you need genetics to do so. Most guys on gear don't have the genes to support their drug habit. So, not many look that great. Usually, just bloated larger versions of their small self. Plus, the mentality that goes with it, is weak. Lying to people daily about how they "changed their diet" to gain the muscle, etc...frauds.
or attract the attention they get from hot womenLet's define "hot". In all my years at Gold's, I'd say maybe 5 were pretty hot. I banged one. Another introduced herself to me, and I declined to converse.
are you really so insecure that you have to constantly put people down to feel better about yourselfInsecure, I'd say I'm more than secure. Trust me, when you see this shit daily...the decline of humanity, it takes it's toll. I'm never inspired when I frequent a gym, just disgusted. ;)
BBing is not about drugs, yet people pretend every day to do something, they can not. It's hard to watch. Much like a female who gets a surgery and is now deemed "hot". It's ridiculous. I respect real gains and females with real tits. We live in a society filled with fake clowns and it's old already. Not every woman was supposed to be given fat tits, accept it and move on. I'm not a fan of fake or usually the people who subscribe to it. This is amusing, to say the least. There a few guys...who look better, are bigger, etc...but you need genetics to do so. Most guys on gear don't have the genes to support their drug habit. So, not many look that great. Usually, just bloated larger versions of their small self. Plus, the mentality that goes with it, is weak. Lying to people daily about how they "changed their diet" to gain the muscle, etc...frauds. Let's define "hot". In all my years at Gold's, I'd say maybe 5 were pretty hot. I banged one. Another introduced herself to me, and I declined to converse.::) ::) ::)
Middle aged blonde implant skanks are not attractive in any way to me. Dime a dozen and can be bought at a store. Really, gross to me actually.Insecure, I'd say I'm more than secure. Trust me, when you see this shit daily...the decline of humanity, it takes it's toll. I'm never inspired when I frequent a gym, just disgusted. ;)
Does this help?
::) ::) ::)Would you like to smell my finger from years back?
Would you like to smell my finger from years back?::)
Declining to carry on a conversation..why, stripper. No point. Quality relationship there.
"See you later honey. Don't take less than $20 to rub your bush in their face."
Not all of us are focused on posing for men and abusing drugs to place higher in the next local event.
::)::)
your bum chum repels women............ you on the other hand have a good build, still a liar tho
your bum chum repels women............ you on the other hand have a good build, still a liar thoAre we in 2nd grade still? Grown "men" calling each other liars on a web forum.
Are we in 2nd grade still? Grown "men" calling each other liars on a web forum.Croatch and Coltrane both have pretty good builds. I shutter to think how bad the genetics are of the people totally convinced they are juicers. Just pathetic
Does it get any weaker?
Someone claims natural/clean...I believe them. Why would they lie? If so, what am I to gain by trying discrediting something I can not prove?
Let's move on now. School is out. ::)
yeah i dont get it. lying about being natural.
like for what reason? nobody respects you more, or even cares. you only look like a douche to those who know differently.
You don't "know" anything. ...I do. I'm sorry if its behind your comprehension that I'm not geared up like you.
I don't get what you do quite frankly....putting all of that stuff into your body for what....to be "jacked" ?
But I'm not going to attack you constantly for it...like people do to me on a daily basis. Whatever floats your boat.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM,so you think a faceless gimmick can speak for the entire planet
6" 205, I used to be a permabulker like many people on this site (guess what, being natural and 235 pounds doesn't look that good) . Now cutting down to 190 or so, hope to hit 7-8% then. I've been lifting for 5 years and lifting heavy consistently (405 fullsquat for reps, 315 pound bench presses, 500lb deads etc.) I don't claim I have the best genetics around, but when people who are 4-5 inches shorter than me are claiming 10-15 pounds more BW ripped, I'm calling BS.
Tbh, I think GH15 is right on the money with his limits for naturals, speaking from my own expierience and friends who also lift.
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You don't "know" anything. ...I do. I'm sorry if its behind your comprehension that I'm not geared up like you.Yo Greggo!.....If you weren't blessed with your superb genetics, would you have taken gear to be where your at now?
I don't get what you do quite frankly....putting all of that stuff into your body for what....to be "jacked" ?
But I'm not going to attack you constantly for it...like people do to me on a daily basis. Whatever floats your boat.
Yo Greggo!.....If you weren't blessed with your superb genetics, would you have taken gear to be where your at now?
And are you still considering on trying a cycle out?
Yo Greggo!.....If you weren't blessed with your superb genetics, would you have taken gear to be where your at now?
And are you still considering on trying a cycle out?
so you think a faceless gimmick can speak for the entire planet
and tell you what each and everyone limits are
so people are such sheep....
Couldn't be further off Chief. Tried one cycle at 18, almost 20 years back. Gained 30lbs in 2 months. Grew up, gained some integrity. Gained 50lbs lean mass no drugs.
Any other theories?
BBing is a joke to the masses, due to the surplus of filthy drug users out there.
That's a good question...I don't know, because lucky for me..I WAS.
I do know that although I don't jump up and down like a retard like Croatch does...I'm not a big fan of douches that gas up just to be the "big guy" at the gym.
And fans...keep those hate-filled posts coming. Ill keep training and being a big fucker, you keep whining about it ;)
as far as me doing a cycle...nah.....I just day that so people have aneurisms.... :D
Groink is the greatest natural bber ever.
If he finally got on gear. He'd be Mr. O within 6 months. Just awesome genetics.
Groink is the greatest natural bber ever.
If he finally got on gear. He'd be Mr. O within 6 months. Just awesome genetics.
use, don't use.....you reap what you sow. is it immoral to use bb chemicals? it can be highly addictive so perhaps in that regard you could make a case. is it illegal? most often yes, but does that make it immoral? me, I just believe in accomplishing things on my own steam...nothing added.
Many do lie but I 100% believe Groink is natural. He has NO reason to lie and has been BRUTALLY honest about all facets of his live. He has been training for 30 years. He isn't a starved twink and is a strong beast and dedicated muscleman. Is so hard to believe he build some huge arms with his desire and genes?
I mean really, unless you can proof an otherwise incredibly honest bro is bullshitting it's no right to question.
lol,, fella is a walking test tube,,what are you friends retards? fella is bloat to the maximus degree,,he hold 10-13% but very very bloat thats why look 15-16% to some who dont knwo bodybuild and are here... in reality he is a water fountain with good arms but those arms grew only due to syntetic hormones aka TESTOSTERONA IN THE BLOOD FROM 750 TO 1500 MG A WEEK ,,ofcourse there are other products but his physiqe have testosterona written on it all over,,yes some can get same thing on anapolon and dianabol but in his case he has testosterona written all over his physiqe,,mainly because the type of thickness talk about,,mainly because the way the water is held which is in midsetion ,,
groink is 3 week from being 9-11% bodyfat when dropping testosterona ...he doesnt do it because he will also drop shit load of weight when this happen,,
if groink physiqe was truly from hard work and only hard work first of he would have chest which developed his chest has absolitly no development what so ever but i mean NO DEVELOPMENT and its not because the water hide anything ,,there is no chest there... he has the delts and arms thick as a mother fucker from putting in his ass both sides by the way lol 1 gram of total testosterona a week at the least
he does not ! use gh on a regular basis becaue he lack the sculpted muscles that gh gives and the ability to actualy see he is lean even with water on which gh gives you ,,with gh you can see someone is lean even when he is water baloon ,,with groink only i see he is lean in the 9-11 % zone because i know how testosterona works....
he is not in the 6-8% zone but much leaner than many of you fellas think,,
again he is walking testosterona tube lol
gh15 approved
slander, nothing more than slander. Groink is the most honest bro here. Doesn't pretent to be an IFBB pro when in reality nothing of the sort. Groink would say if he'd done AAS. Seriously, stop slandering people with bravery to post themselves and not hide behind gimmickery.
living in americana and gettign your shit with usps ...descret...is good feeling eh? you want to kep it this way,,go back to your cave and take your shoes off your feet when talk to me ya fuckin mongo
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slander, nothing more than slander. Groink is the most honest bro here. Doesn't pretent to be an IFBB pro when in reality nothing of the sort. Groink would say if he'd done AAS. Seriously, stop slandering people with bravery to post themselves and not hide behind gimmickery.
living in americana and gettign your shit with usps ...descret...is good feeling eh? you want to kep it this way,,go back to your cave and take your shoes off your feet when talk to me ya fuckin mongoBlazing Saddles tribute?
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retard jamaica,,you sit on this board day in day out,,took already hormones and still cant pass 210lb...stil cant even do it in the single digit zoneof 8 % or under...you are the exact definition of a wanna be ! ,,you are the one who wont do nothing with your bodybuild,,you are the one who spend tons of money with out getting reward in the competition ,,you are the one who live to impress others but fail because his MESURMENTS AND PHYSIQE DO NOT HOLD AGAINST THE TRUE BODYBUILDERS THAT YOU ARE JELOUS OF! YOU ARE JELOUS OF US THATS WHY YOU SIT HERE AND TRY TO PORTRAY YOURSELF AS A STRONG LIFTER....YOU ARE NEITHER STRONG NOR A BODYBUILDR,,YOU LACK THE LEAN SIZE AND THEN YOU LACK THE SUPER STRENGTH THAT COME FROM LITTLE FELLAS THAT WEIGHT 170-180LB...SO YOU LOSE IN BOTH WORLDS,,YOU ARE WHAT WE CALL
A V E R A G E !
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OMG, I can't believe dipshit I mean Groink is still getting off to those that use steroids!
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=105799&d=1086096610)Hi Swede
wut drugs did I take at 19...?
GH15?
edit: I was 20
Hi Swede
, you actualy off gh for 12 days when you enjoy brushing your teeth in the morning just so you look at the way your arm and pec moves while you brushing your teeth ,,you enjoy lookin at your abs when doing it becauseeeeee ALL THE WATERRRRR IS GOING DOWN AND DROPPING,,,
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gh15, I'm actually on 10iu a day, uses an electric tooth brush and still enjoy myself watching my pec/delt move while the sonicare does her job..... my cock also solidly layed on the counter...
Where have I done wrong ???
err noClearly getbig humor eludes you.
Clearly getbig humor eludes you.
Your body looks like our resident midget.
poor little fucker,,, in a country where the majority of the population are all over 6ft, the little midget will never be constipated again
lol,, fella is a walking test tube,,what are you friends retards? fella is bloat to the maximus degree,,he hold 10-13% but very very bloat thats why look 15-16% to some who dont knwo bodybuild and are here... in reality he is a water fountain with good arms but those arms grew only due to syntetic hormones aka TESTOSTERONA IN THE BLOOD FROM 750 TO 1500 MG A WEEK ,,ofcourse there are other products but his physiqe have testosterona written on it all over,,yes some can get same thing on anapolon and dianabol but in his case he has testosterona written all over his physiqe,,mainly because the type of thickness talk about,,mainly because the way the water is held which is in midsetion ,,
groink is 3 week from being 9-11% bodyfat when dropping testosterona ...he doesnt do it because he will also drop shit load of weight when this happen,,
if groink physiqe was truly from hard work and only hard work first of he would have chest which developed his chest has absolitly no development what so ever but i mean NO DEVELOPMENT and its not because the water hide anything ,,there is no chest there... he has the delts and arms thick as a mother fucker from putting in his ass both sides by the way lol 1 gram of total testosterona a week at the least
he does not ! use gh on a regular basis becaue he lack the sculpted muscles that gh gives and the ability to actualy see he is lean even with water on which gh gives you ,,with gh you can see someone is lean even when he is water baloon ,,with groink only i see he is lean in the 9-11 % zone because i know how testosterona works....
he is not in the 6-8% zone but much leaner than many of you fellas think,,
again he is walking testosterona tube lol
gh15 approved
I have a pretty good build...I'm not just a pair of arms.Show us those glutes big guy!! :P
Show us those glutes big guy!! :P8)
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=105799&d=1086096610)
wut drugs did I take at 19...?
GH15?
edit: I was 20
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=105799&d=1086096610)
wut drugs did I take at 19...?
GH15?
edit: I was 20
Your big shoulders with really small chest tell a story of a very thin man who blew up on test and Dball... Looks like you have longish type bicep which give you a monkey like physique. Usually this happens with a guy over 5'10 tall, but something tells me you are even taller. 6'4 ish.frame imop. which muscle wise is very unimpressive. Hell Daddy Waddy blows you out of the water.