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Title: Keto Diet
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on April 16, 2011, 06:43:06 AM
I know I could probably look this shite up but I want to hear GB's take.

How long do you stay on this diet?

I am running out of meal ideas - what are some things you've eaten while on this diet?

Other general thoughts/ideas on this type of diet?

Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Tito24 on April 16, 2011, 06:47:22 AM
i found it kind of difficult to eat protein only meals, dont have much variation then. not everyone has time and money to prepare all kinds of exotic meals plus youre hungry about ten minuts later you ate one.
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: mass243 on April 16, 2011, 06:59:26 AM
What do ya' mean, "running out of meal ideas" ?

Why is it impossible to eat same shit from day to another? I do that now on my diet, though I'm not fully on keto.
I don't fukin' eat food because it tastes good, I eat it to stay alive, which have been the case for thousand of years...

THIS IS GENERATION HIGH ESTROGEN fully on display right here! Can't eat the same food for few months... ffs BULLSHIT!!!!
Unless you're sum' fuukin' bitch having periods you don't need variation in your diet. WOmen want food to taste good because they're weak and bitches and their mind is fukin' mess.
 JUST eat it! Not so difficult.

Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: _bruce_ on April 16, 2011, 06:59:47 AM
Tried it for about 6 weeks.
The waterloss is excellent but the energyloss, at the beginning, may be too much.
It's costly if you want high quality food - good eggs, good beef.
Mentally it was pretty good - depression eased its grip.
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: MAXX on April 16, 2011, 07:04:15 AM
I eat keto'ish on my off training days.

then on training day i include carbs.

don't need carbs when just at home not spending energy :)

about going full keto always i never liked it too much i like to have glycogen in my system when i train!
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Benoitlapierre on April 16, 2011, 07:26:16 AM
eat every 3 hours , 24/7 , not 6 meal , 8 meal , fat in every meal , lack of fat = flat n weak , sodium eo meal make electrolytes easier , fuck veggies day , fat = hormone  , 480 prot , 200 gr fat , 15-20 gr carb in gym ED , then lower macro
keto max 10 weeks , if depress , fish oil right away 20gr , fat loading help well being , do keto only if carb make you look watery ,, if your lean n rip on 100 gr carb a day no reason to lower it ,,
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 16, 2011, 07:38:46 AM
I know I could probably look this shite up but I want to hear GB's take.

How long do you stay on this diet?

I am running out of meal ideas - what are some things you've eaten while on this diet?

Other general thoughts/ideas on this type of diet?


Its just a low carb diet, water drop off the bat so a weight loss. If you drop the carbs you got to get the fats up for energy or maybe cycle it in and out on training days meaning carbs the day before training just saying...
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Tito24 on April 16, 2011, 07:42:34 AM
(http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/gallery/data/996/Richard_Jones_042.jpg)
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: FREAKgeek on April 16, 2011, 07:45:21 AM
that's one hell of an arm
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Dr Dutch on April 16, 2011, 07:48:48 AM
Keto diet is lots of fuzz and maybe gives you a few percent extra at most.
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: no one on April 16, 2011, 08:06:18 AM
eat every 3 hours , 24/7 , not 6 meal , 8 meal , fat in every meal , lack of fat = flat n weak , sodium eo meal make electrolytes easier , fuck veggies day , fat = hormone  , 480 prot , 200 gr fat , 15-20 gr carb in gym ED , then lower macro
keto max 10 weeks , if depress , fish oil right away 20gr , fat loading help well being , do keto only if carb make you look watery ,, if your lean n rip on 100 gr carb a day no reason to lower it ,,

pretty much where im at- 425 pro/ 250 fat/ 35 starchy carb. and a shit ton of fiberous carbs but just to fill my stomach. every 3-4 days i'll up my starch and drop the fat to 200.

absolutely right about going flat on keto- up the fat to stay tight.

you guys want to learn how to do this shit right- listen to gh15 and BLP.
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: no one on April 16, 2011, 08:08:32 AM
I know I could probably look this shite up but I want to hear GB's take.

How long do you stay on this diet?

I am running out of meal ideas - what are some things you've eaten while on this diet?

Other general thoughts/ideas on this type of diet?



you can run it year round if you want. once you get into keto the easy part is staying in. getting there is a little harder for the first 3 days or so.

i pretty much subsist on coconut oil and almonds and thats about it for fats. maybe red meat whenever i get the craving. i dont avoid red meat, just prefer chicken breast when dieting. fuck fish- a good way to flatten out in a hurry.
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Benoitlapierre on April 16, 2011, 09:10:38 AM
Its just a low carb diet, water drop off the bat so a weight loss. If you drop the carbs you got to get the fats up for energy or maybe cycle it in and out on training days meaning carbs the day before training just saying...

make sense ,,
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Benoitlapierre on April 16, 2011, 09:14:20 AM
me - keto - last year
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Meso_z on April 16, 2011, 09:20:24 AM
me - keto - last year
blp., did you use any fatburners along with keto? and how long can one diet and be shredded?

I always dieted on carbs....im afraid to experiment with keto. dont know why just seems like a weird way to diet.
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Benoitlapierre on April 16, 2011, 09:52:02 AM
blp., did you use any fatburners along with keto? and how long can one diet and be shredded?

I always dieted on carbs....im afraid to experiment with keto. dont know why just seems like a weird way to diet.

if you get condition below 5% with carb dont do it ,, keto made for ppls non resistant to insulin

a pro will look great 4 days after contest  , me few days after contest with cheat n ice cream , i look same at 10 weeks ago !

i use bcaa + humapro + geranium , synephrine , oxyelite pro with 20gr dry oatmeal at 30 min weightlifting activities

beside controversy , i do hiit 15 min on keto , with high fat n 15 min wont go catabolic , stepmaster 15 min , high rep deadlift cardio


i use paleo raw keto , mono eating , one item per meal , all grass-fed meat , raw eggs free farm chicken
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Devon97 on April 16, 2011, 09:58:08 AM
Don't do it Jimmy! It will deplete you are flatten you out like a deflated birthday baloon.
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Meso_z on April 16, 2011, 10:02:51 AM
if you get condition below 5% with carb dont do it ,, keto made for ppls non resistant to insulin

a pro will look great 4 days after contest  , me few days after contest with cheat n ice cream , i look same at 10 weeks ago !

i use bcaa + humapro + geranium , synephrine , oxyelite pro with 20gr dry oatmeal at 30 min weightlifting activities

beside controversy , i do hiit 15 min on keto , with high fat n 15 min wont go catabolic , stepmaster 15 min , high rep deadlift cardio


i use paleo raw keto , mono eating , one item per meal , all grass-fed meat , raw eggs free farm chicken
What is geranium? I have seen it in many energy boosting suppps...some of them were banned because of this substance
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Agent69 on April 16, 2011, 10:18:38 AM
Keto Diet is a fukcen joke...I get a kick out of bbers,fitness,figure girls and whoever that follow this diet..Zero complex carbs for months and months..lol and doing 1-2-3 hours of cardio a day..wtf..?? I have seen so many guys & girls get so fukced up on this diet...and fuukc up there systems bigtime....
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: FREAKgeek on April 16, 2011, 10:44:39 AM
Keto Diet is a fukcen joke...I get a kick out of bbers,fitness,figure girls and whoever that follow this diet..Zero complex carbs for months and months..lol and doing 1-2-3 hours of cardio a day..wtf..?? I have seen so many guys & girls get so fukced up on this diet...and fuukc up there systems bigtime....

I agree. Some of it stems from an irrational fear that all carbs do is get you fat. Your body doesn't run on free energy.
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: wavelength on April 16, 2011, 10:48:28 AM
keto diets have no advantage over any other calorie controlled diet with enough protein
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 16, 2011, 10:56:23 AM
keto diets have no advantage over any other calorie controlled diet with enough protein
X2
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: FREAKgeek on April 16, 2011, 10:59:01 AM
keto diets have no advantage over any other calorie controlled diet with enough protein

If you have certain metabolic disorders like obesity they might be advantageous
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: wavelength on April 16, 2011, 10:59:51 AM
X2

The funny thing is, even in Atkins' book he couldn't really come up with any legit studies to backup his claims.
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Disgusted on April 16, 2011, 11:11:59 AM
keto diets have no advantage over any other calorie controlled diet with enough protein

Eat less lose weight, BUT for health it's all about what you ingest.
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: ManBearPig... on April 16, 2011, 11:13:15 AM
you're welcome, doucher:

http://www.genaw.com/lowcarb/recipes.html
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: tbombz on April 16, 2011, 11:37:20 AM
Keto for the sake of keto is stupid.

But a cyclical keto diet with often high carb days is good.

The body adapts quickly so keep it guessing. High carb days rev metabolism, fill up the muscles to fuel training and recovery.


My suggestion....   2-3 zero carb days with moderate protein and moderate fat.. 1gramprotein and .5gram fats  per lb lean body weight...  Then throw in a day with an extra 200-400 carbs on top of the regular diet... Keep repeating...  Can add 20-40 grams carbs post workout to make the process a little slower but will end up bigger and fuller.
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Benoitlapierre on April 16, 2011, 03:32:56 PM
Keto for the sake of keto is stupid.

But a cyclical keto diet with often high carb days is good.

The body adapts quickly so keep it guessing. High carb days rev metabolism, fill up the muscles to fuel training and recovery.


My suggestion....   2-3 zero carb days with moderate protein and moderate fat.. 1gramprotein and .5gram fats  per lb lean body weight...  Then throw in a day with an extra 200-400 carbs on top of the regular diet... Keep repeating...  Can add 20-40 grams carbs post workout to make the process a little slower but will end up bigger and fuller.

to make progressive gain ,, yes ,, but contest ,, so many variable ,, you need expertise level ,, to nail ,, even cutler took him a while

one meal refeed usually do job on insulin sensitive genetic , but not once a week , you refeed once adrenaline too high or insomnia


Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Benoitlapierre on April 16, 2011, 03:34:39 PM
Don't do it Jimmy! It will deplete you are flatten you out like a deflated birthday baloon.

case by case ,,, ppls who react well to carb think the entire earth are like them ,, it's not true

 if it was th case everyone will eat whatever n everyone will never get obese
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Benoitlapierre on April 16, 2011, 03:35:48 PM
What is geranium? I have seen it in many energy boosting suppps...some of them were banned because of this substance

yeap ,, anything who' work end up being ban ,,  ban in canada just now ,,
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Benoitlapierre on April 16, 2011, 03:37:08 PM
If you have certain metabolic disorders like obesity they might be advantageous

voila ,,
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Benoitlapierre on April 16, 2011, 03:38:16 PM
Keto Diet is a fukcen joke...I get a kick out of bbers,fitness,figure girls and whoever that follow this diet..Zero complex carbs for months and months..lol and doing 1-2-3 hours of cardio a day..wtf..?? I have seen so many guys & girls get so fukced up on this diet...and fuukc up there systems bigtime....

refeed big time evry 3 to 7 days ,, full mega carb meal ,, slow cardio is too boring ,, hiit ,, much faster ,,
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: flexingtonsteele on April 16, 2011, 03:41:46 PM
Listen to BLP.

He knows his shit!

Canadian bodybuilder living the dream!
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 16, 2011, 04:34:43 PM
Keto diet mixed in with extremely high amounts of veggies(juiced in a high end juicer) 4DAWIN. Zero cardio needed.
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Krankenstein on April 16, 2011, 06:28:58 PM
I follow this....mod-high protein (for me 285gm/day), 100gm of carbs (divided into 50gm serv., workout days post workout is 50gm, off days 50gm is the 3rd meal...just because), fats are 10 - 15gm per meal except the post workout meal.

Cardio 4x week, 2 LISS, 2 HIIT

Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Meso_z on April 16, 2011, 10:52:14 PM
I follow this....mod-high protein (for me 285gm/day), 100gm of carbs (divided into 50gm serv., workout days post workout is 50gm, off days 50gm is the 3rd meal...just because), fats are 10 - 15gm per meal except the post workout meal.

Cardio 4x week, 2 LISS, 2 HIIT


Thats exactly how i do it when i diet.

How many weeks are you following this diet?
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Benoitlapierre on April 17, 2011, 04:04:37 AM
I follow this....mod-high protein (for me 285gm/day), 100gm of carbs (divided into 50gm serv., workout days post workout is 50gm, off days 50gm is the 3rd meal...just because), fats are 10 - 15gm per meal except the post workout meal.

Cardio 4x week, 2 LISS, 2 HIIT



look awesome

perfect carb ratio for you ,, keto is 20gr or less a day


you went til stage contest condition ?

100gr a day keto wil be for dorian y.
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Benoitlapierre on April 17, 2011, 04:12:42 AM
Listen to BLP.

He knows his shit!

Canadian bodybuilder living the dream!

your are quite genuine yourself

... i will say i both fail n succeed with keto , since fail on average genetic,, i learn th hard way ,, i think i represent more of an higher % of th population relating to carb sensibility,

im into my 6th keto experience' ,, again,,  th goin to 4% bodyfat adventure

thk u

be big it' somewhat easy , be lean it' somewhat easy...  but be big n lean it' def' a headache
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Krankenstein on April 17, 2011, 04:56:27 AM
Thats exactly how i do it when i diet.

How many weeks are you following this diet?

How ever long I want.  My sundays are my day to eat whatever I want.  Sometimes I will start on Saturday night by having a medium pizza, then go to movie and eat 1lb of M&Ms.  Sometimes I just feel like continuing the cheat and will trail into mondays.  I tried the carb thing before a workout...and actually get a little tired before the gym.  Now, its a shake with some peanut butter or some almonds and actually I have a better pump with that.

I will say that from what I understood....keto has 30gm a day or less.  Oh well, to eat his own.  I might start doing a cheat meal on Wednesdays and then not do any cheating on saturday nights.  All I know is I love my sundays.
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Boost on April 17, 2011, 12:01:05 PM
If you have a physical job then forget it.

If your at home/in the office on a computer all day and the only energy you need is for the workout......

go for it. I'd like to meet a construction worker on a keto diet.
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Benoitlapierre on April 17, 2011, 12:02:41 PM
If you have a physical job then forget it.

If your at home/in the office on a computer all day and the only energy you need is for the workout......

go for it. I'd like to meet a construction worker on a keto diet.

i will say too , n will say be a successful bber working 9-5 make it too difficult , better freelance
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Stavios on April 18, 2011, 05:48:27 AM
be big it' somewhat easy , be lean it' somewhat easy...  but be big n lean it' def' a headache

X2

that's why I like people being already 8% bf at 14-16 weeks out, very easy to make small ajustments from there and be able to keep fullness while getting lean
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Benoitlapierre on April 18, 2011, 08:47:24 AM
X2

that's why I like people being already 8% bf at 14-16 weeks out, very easy to make small ajustments from there and be able to keep fullness while getting lean

on hardketo meat - oil - paleo - hiit - whatever water retention gone,  loosing 25-30 pounds of crap water common -

14 weeks out keto make it hard on immune system - once adrenal gland dead nothing you can do ,, i prefer short 12 max, unless obesity

in my book someone at 8%bf can b ready in 7 weeks

i myself do keto 10 weeks even if off season had been lee priest type in past
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: BIG ACH on April 18, 2011, 09:59:06 AM

Did it for a few weeks, got cut up fast... Its HARD though, you feel like absolute death, I dunno how people say you get over the cravings, fuck that I was in full on ketosis (peeing on keto sticks and everything) and it was still hard!


You get CUT UP!!!  But its DAMN hard!
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Stavios on April 18, 2011, 10:03:03 AM
Did it for a few weeks, got cut up fast... Its HARD though, you feel like absolute death, I dunno how people say you get over the cravings, fuck that I was in full on ketosis (peeing on keto sticks and everything) and it was still hard!


You get CUT UP!!!  But its DAMN hard!

I am never hungry on keto, just have to watch the damn peanut butter haha

if I try keto again I will only use nuts and oils but no peanut butter for sure
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: CT_Muscle on April 18, 2011, 10:05:04 AM
ketones are neurotoxic......but most here have no brains so go for it  ;D
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Meso_z on April 18, 2011, 10:38:39 AM
ketones are neurotoxic......but most here have no brains so go for it  ;D
;D
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Rudee on April 18, 2011, 11:13:35 AM
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I am never hungry on keto, just have to watch the damn peanut butter haha

if I try keto again I will only use nuts and oils but no peanut butter for sure

I had the same issue with peanut butter.  Was getting out of hand.   For the last 3 weeks I've been taking Omega 3-6-9 oil instead of peanut butter and seeing very good results.   5Tbs/day of the oil seems to be the right amount at the moment. 
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: XFACTOR on April 18, 2011, 11:14:39 AM
I am never hungry on keto, just have to watch the damn peanut butter haha

if I try keto again I will only use nuts and oils but no peanut butter for sure

My only vice on this diet!!

Well I do use a little feta cheese too on eggs and chicken
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Benoitlapierre on April 18, 2011, 11:19:43 AM
ketones are neurotoxic......but most here have no brains so go for it  ;D

life is neurotoxic
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: local hero on April 18, 2011, 12:04:13 PM
my 1st ever prep was a keto type diet... i work as a fitter in a ship yard too and its very heavy going most the time... i used to have to grab little 15min sleeps in the toilets or id just turn into a zombie,, i had to use lots of stimulants to keep me going

despite what people say, its a great way of shedding alot of fat
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: Deicide on April 18, 2011, 12:15:10 PM
When I did this, I found I had to urinate far too often. Don't do it anymore.
Title: Re: Keto Diet
Post by: 225for70 on April 18, 2011, 12:21:54 PM
The funny thing is, even in Atkins' book he couldn't really come up with any legit studies to backup his claims.

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