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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Remo Williams on April 22, 2011, 05:45:07 PM
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Dorians arms definately were not the best in the sport.
Pre tear they looked quite good though
But what were the measurements for then?
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That's classified, right up there with who shot JFK. Never heard a measurement, don't think over 20.
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17''
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy49.jpg)
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Geez, he doesnt look to good there.
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he said at just over 300 lbs they were slightly over 20".
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Probably around 18.5" or 19" in contest shape...
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around the same size of mesos
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19 inch but dense 19 inch and conditioned 18.75-19.25 inch,,
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Hulkster will be along when he's done measuring Ronnie's inseam.
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Peter McGough wrote in the August 1997 Flex that off-season Dorian's arms were 18 1/4" and 18 3/4"
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Peter McGough wrote in the August 1997 Flex that off-season Dorian's arms were 18 1/4" and 18 3/4"
My arms measure 18 3/4 at 220 ???
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Peter McGough wrote in the August 1997 Flex that off-season Dorian's arms were 18 1/4" and 18 3/4"
on stage yes!,, 18.75 his bigger arm
but look at the condition he was in ...that condition take other bodybuildr with 21 inch arms and wipe floor with them.... all give and take my friend especialy when you have average genetic to begin with
at 300lb he was over 19 inch but no one care when you are bloof ball 300lb ,,we only care when prep or on stage,,that what counts,, and then he was 18.75 icnches
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But what were the measurements for then?
20.5" in contest shape.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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My arms measure 18 3/4 at 220 ???
How lean are you though ?
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My arms measure 18 3/4 at 220 ???
do you have muscle fibers show on the kidnys? from the lower back do you have the xmas tree clearly visible with fibers go all through it? do you have x factor from the back? do you have back detailed like afganistanian map? do yo have your abs tunneled? do you have every muscle group isolated and seperated? can you see the 3 head of delts when relaxed? can you see your chest full and pumped and isolated unit at all time even when not having pump? can you see your seratus clearly? are you dry and grainy? not kinda hard... but dry and grainy?
are you 4-5% bodyfat?
ok then
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19 inch but dense 19 inch and conditioned 18.75-19.25 inch,,
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Doz said himself his arms never got over 19.5".
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do you have muscle fibers show on the kidnys? from the lower back do you have the xmas tree clearly visible with fibers go all through it? do you have x factor from the back? do you have back detailed like afganistanian map? do yo have your abs tunneled? do you have every muscle group isolated and seperated? can you see the 3 head of delts when relaxed? can you see your chest full and pumped and isolated unit at all time even when not having pump? can you see your seratus clearly? are you dry and grainy? not kinda hard... but dry and grainy?
are you 4-5% bodyfat?
ok then
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Nope, my point being that I would have sworn Dorian's arms were at least 19 inches.
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20.5" in contest shape.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
lol ,, not quite but looked like that true
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lol ,, not quite but looked like that true
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Be Francis measured Dorian's arms at 47 centimeters in circumference right before he stepped onstage for the 1995 Olympia. That is 20.5".
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorian_Yates
Measurements (competition condition)
chest 57"(144.78 cm)
arms 20"(53.34 cm)
waist 42"(86.36 cm)
thigh 29"(81.28 cm)
calf 20"(53.34 cm)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorian_Yates
Measurements (competition condition)
chest 57"(144.78 cm)
arms 20"(53.34 cm)
waist 42"(86.36 cm)
thigh 29"(81.28 cm)
calf 20"(53.34 cm)
No way was his waist 42" lean. Isn't it quite well regarded Dorian's calves were 22 inches?
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Be Francis measured Dorian's arms at 47 centimeters in circumference right before he stepped onstage for the 1995 Olympia. That is 20.5".
SUCKMYMUSCLE
47 centimeters = 18.503937 inches
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One inch is 2.54 centimeters.
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suckmusclde lives in the era of no metric sysyem ...for him cm and inch all the same lol
dorian was 18,75 inch mesured by me directly pumped and flexed
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Be Francis measured Dorian's arms at 47 centimeters in circumference right before he stepped onstage for the 1995 Olympia. That is 20.5".
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I think you right on that
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by the way ....i train with few fellas with arm no more than 18 inch pumped and flexed as hard as they could ,,andf the general public think they are 20 inch ....why? beause of condition ,,18 inch when 6% look like 19 inch ,,it is not 19 inch but it look like it from far...
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Somebody told me once that during the 1993 Mr. O commentary,it was stated by Jim Quinn,that Flex Wheeler's body fat had been measured at 0.0%,the lowest ever recorded at Gold's Gym.
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:D :D :D
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One inch is 2.54 centimeters.
I am sorry. She actually measured it at 20.5". I was confusing that with Haney, who had his arms measured for the 1988 Olympia at 47 centimeters right before he went onstage.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I gots 12 inch arms. They be all natchal, too. ;D
GFG (good fucking grief), Dorian was a big dude and his arms were more than up to snuff. I think Reg Park said the largest his arms ever measured were 18.5" at a body weight of 250 pounds. I could be wrong on that because its from memory and I suffer from memmoroids. Later, kids. ;)
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by the way ....i train with few fellas with arm no more than 18 inch pumped and flexed as hard as they could ,,andf the general public think they are 20 inch ....why? beause of condition ,,18 inch when 6% look like 19 inch ,,it is not 19 inch but it look like it from far...
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that's true
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I am sorry. She actually measured it at 20.5". I was confusing that with Haney, who had his arms measured for the 1988 Olympia at 47 centimeters right before he went onstage.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Like the time you thought Vitor's first name was Victor?
Or that Jon Jones was on TUF?
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On this day I'm guessing his left arm taped 21". This day only.
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all that matters is what the tape measure reads
fuck conditioning
(http://www.ebicep.com/images/greg/greg7.jpg)
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Dorian was always totally uninterested in measurements, lifts in and of themselves. He was often asked "how much do you bench?" and his answer never changed: "It doesn't matter". He would have only been concerned with how his arms looked, not what the tape said, and, until the injuries, they were perfectly respectable. Not his strongest part but decent enough.
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come one,,, how could his arm be 18, his forams are bigger than that... at his hight theres no way they were that small, they didnt have the best genetic shape, but they werent absolutly tiny... no one olympia stage at 5'10" has arms under 20".... please dont forget that he had some of the meatiest triceps out there
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Shape, seperation, and conditioning>size
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17''
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy49.jpg)
his left tri looks injured here!!.. was this taken at the time of 97 olympia??!!..
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The story of Dorian Yates.
He rose up in the bodybuilding world and looked great. All the supplement companies sponsored him and he became bodybuilding's golden boy.
Then he tore up his arm and started looking like shit. But there was already a LOT of money and publicity riding on him, so they kept him going. Kept him looking as best as he could, kept on giving him trophies, kept the money flowing, even though his arms looked like they'd been in a meat grinder.
All money. Follow the money.
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on stage yes!,, 18.75 his bigger arm
but look at the condition he was in ...that condition take other bodybuildr with 21 inch arms and wipe floor with them.... all give and take my friend especialy when you have average genetic to begin with
at 300lb he was over 19 inch but no one care when you are bloof ball 300lb ,,we only care when prep or on stage,,that what counts,, and then he was 18.75 icnches
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how come to be 19 inches at +300 pounds and 18.75 inches at 260 pound??.. no logic here..
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how come to be 19 inches at +300 pounds and 18.75 inches at 260 pound??.. no logic here..
shouldn't you be out rioting/burning shit/plotting the recapture of the heights?
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Shape, seperation, and conditioning>size
oui mon ami dj181. ;D
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He had no shape, conditioning or size. When it comes to Dorian, it's best to not even bring up his arms
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bodybuilding's golden boy.
Yes, his warm smile and pleasant demeanor were a big hit with the fans
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I have not measured them but they don't look any bigger than 19" at his best (93).
After the 93 Mr. Olympia, he didn't have what I call "arms" in bodybuilding.
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how come to be 19 inches at +300 pounds and 18.75 inches at 260 pound??.. no logic here..
20-20,5 inch at 300lb ,,competition they were 18.75 with pump and little escilene 19-19.25,,most of the weight on bodybuild past 230lb go to gut...and thats for 5'10 fellas...just imagine the little fellas...
so dorian while seeing 300lb offseason was also havign it mainly in gut and torse and legs,,his arms were his weakest respond to hormones and ingeneral his weakest part,,bicep that is,,tricep were good
dorian never seen the number 20 inches on stage ever,,if he was same condition of the other competitors he would probabaly pull on stage 19.75-20 inches but he was more grainy hardr and drier ,,he was around 19 inches on stage
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20-20,5 inch at 300lb ,,competition they were 18.75 with pump and little escilene 19-19.25,,most of the weight on bodybuild past 230lb go to gut...and thats for 5'10 fellas...just imagine the little fellas...
so dorian while seeing 300lb offseason was also havign it mainly in gut and torse and legs,,his arms were his weakest respond to hormones and ingeneral his weakest part,,bicep that is,,tricep were good
dorian never seen the number 20 inches on stage ever,,if he was same condition of the other competitors he would probabaly pull on stage 19.75-20 inches but he was more grainy hardr and drier ,,he was around 19 inches on stage
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what year did guys start using slin? What about GH?
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what year did guys start using slin? What about GH?
Gh was about 1880, Sandow was a big user he used to eat Elephant cadaver brains.
Slin was a bit later circa about 1910.
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I would say around 20 inches.
His tri's weren't anything special, but he knew how to pose to cover his weaknesses. He was a very good poser.
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A 16 inch arm that is shaped, conditioned and seperated is MUCH MORE IMPRESSIVE than a bloofy 20 inch arm FACT
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:-X
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A 16 inch arm that is shaped, conditioned and seperated is MUCH MORE IMPRESSIVE than a bloofy 20 inch arm FACT
QFT.
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20-20,5 inch at 300lb ,,competition they were 18.75 with pump and little escilene 19-19.25,,most of the weight on bodybuild past 230lb go to gut...and thats for 5'10 fellas...just imagine the little fellas...
so dorian while seeing 300lb offseason was also havign it mainly in gut and torse and legs,,his arms were his weakest respond to hormones and ingeneral his weakest part,,bicep that is,,tricep were good
dorian never seen the number 20 inches on stage ever,,if he was same condition of the other competitors he would probabaly pull on stage 19.75-20 inches but he was more grainy hardr and drier ,,he was around 19 inches on stage
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God, what about Ronnie? Wht were his arm measurements?
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16"..... are you fucking kidding, 16" is nothing............ unless your 4 foot tall!!
how big were ronnies here
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gh15,
do you still advise bodybuilders with bad arms to do 2 sets 3 exercises to failure no matter what the reps are for bicep/tricep ???
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16"..... are you fucking kidding, 16" is nothing............ unless your 4 foot tall!!
how big were ronnies here
A 16 inch arm at 7 % is pretty big. Bearing in mind measurements in the 70's/80's when everyone was juiced to the eyeballs and only 2-3 inches bigger.
I'm talking natural here, not drug addict.
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gh15,
do you still advise bodybuilders with bad arms to do 2 sets 3 exercises to failure no matter what the reps are for bicep/tricep ???
good question, and how about for lifetime natural trainers?
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A 16 inch arm at 7 % is pretty big. Bearing in mind measurements in the 70's/80's when everyone was juiced to the eyeballs and only 2-3 inches bigger.
I'm talking natural here, not drug addict.
Correct-a-mundo 8)
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20-20,5 inch at 300lb ,,competition they were 18.75 with pump and little escilene 19-19.25,,most of the weight on bodybuild past 230lb go to gut...and thats for 5'10 fellas...just imagine the little fellas...
so dorian while seeing 300lb offseason was also havign it mainly in gut and torse and legs,,his arms were his weakest respond to hormones and ingeneral his weakest part,,bicep that is,,tricep were good
dorian never seen the number 20 inches on stage ever,,if he was same condition of the other competitors he would probabaly pull on stage 19.75-20 inches but he was more grainy hardr and drier ,,he was around 19 inches on stage
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have you ever measured the beautiful man with glasses arm before??.. ;D
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The story of Dorian Yates.
He rose up in the bodybuilding world and looked great. All the supplement companies sponsored him and he became bodybuilding's golden boy.
Then he tore up his arm and started looking like shit. But there was already a LOT of money and publicity riding on him, so they kept him going. Kept him looking as best as he could, kept on giving him trophies, kept the money flowing, even though his arms looked like they'd been in a meat grinder.
All money. Follow the money.
Hey Kevin :)
You guys get it a little wrong, during his prime career his arms didn't measure the same all the time ( and im talking at all stage conditioning)
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by the way ....i train with few fellas with arm no more than 18 inch pumped and flexed as hard as they could ,,andf the general public think they are 20 inch ....why? beause of condition ,,18 inch when 6% look like 19 inch ,,it is not 19 inch but it look like it from far...
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what did gh15's arms measure at their biggest in off-season & stage?
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if i looked like dorian in his prime i would go to bars to provoke fights.
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if i looked like dorian in his prime i would go to bars to provoke fights.
"For the world is Hell, and men are on the one hand the tormented souls and on the other the devils in it.
The conviction that the world, and therefore man too, is something which really ought not to exist is in fact calculated to instill in us indulgence towards one another: for what can be expected of beings placed in such a situation as we are? From this point of view one might indeed consider that the appropriate form of address between man and man ought to be, not 'monsieur,' 'sir,' but 'fellow sufferer,' 'compagnon de misères.' However strange this may sound it corresponds to the nature of the case, makes us see other men in a true light and reminds us of what are the most necessary of all things: tolerance, patience, forbearance and charity, which each of us needs and which each of us therefore owes."
--Arthur Schopenhauer, 1851
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viator was known as having some of the biggest forearms ever
yates' are bigger
(http://www.heavyweights.ca/bb/users/beeg/images/beeg12106.jpg)
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Dorian had 20.5" arms according to Bev.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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gh15,
do you still advise bodybuilders with bad arms to do 2 sets 3 exercises to failure no matter what the reps are for bicep/tricep ???
good question and why arent the number of reps important?? ???
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viator was known as having some of the biggest forearms ever
yates' are bigger
(http://www.heavyweights.ca/bb/users/beeg/images/beeg12106.jpg)
notice that the waist size doesnt realy change , comparing deisel with the other 2.....
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Whatever size they were they were bad, very bad.
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A 16 inch arm at 7 % is pretty big. Bearing in mind measurements in the 70's/80's when everyone was juiced to the eyeballs and only 2-3 inches bigger.
I'm talking natural here, not drug addict.
If you're in high school that's big. 16 inches is 16 inches. Never goign to be big. You sound like a female lol "Your 16 inch arms are big!" I bet you also do P90X.
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If you're in high school that's big. 16 inches is 16 inches. Never goign to be big. You sound like a female lol "Your 16 inch arms are big!" I bet you also do P90X.
A 16 inch cut arm is a lot better than a bloated 19 inch arm. 99% of the population agrees, you are in a minority schmoe.
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why is it when a little skinny shitstain Like DJ 181 posts a pic of Zane....they act as if they are Frank Zane?
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why is it when a little skinny shitstain Like DJ 181 posts a pic of Zane....they act as if they are Frank Zane?
HAha exactly, "a ripped arm of 16 inch is impressive" brutal trying to make up for the fact that you have sub 16 inch arms that probably aren't even ripped.
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Whats the biggest arms possible natty at 7%? Interested what gh15's opinion is.
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16 '' is OK for a natural , cocksuckers.
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dorian easily had 21 guns offseason, I would say easily 22+ with a lot of quality. My arms are hanging around 19-20 for the past 6 months so I know what Im talking about you bitches ;D
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16 '' is OK for a natural , cocksuckers.
Yeah well... if you are 5 foot tall. ::)
J/k looking solid ;)
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good question, and how about for lifetime natural trainers?
yes gh15 give info for the naturalos too!
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16 '' is OK for a natural , cocksuckers.
you must be really proud of yourself?
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good question and why arent the number of reps important?? ???
x2 for gh15!!
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Whats the biggest arms possible natty at 7%? Interested what gh15's opinion is.
um ..ill tell you exactly
i train right now a fella who go for his pro natural card,,he is true professional who only did some pro hormone lol but no he is profesional because his hormones use was few years back he is natural to me ,,
anyways he is 6'2 205lb 7% as of now ....arm mesure 16 inches ,,look like 19.5 inches when flexed,,if he doesnt flex you think he is swimmer,,moment he flex ...look like arnold little brother,,mesuredd arm 16.25 inches pumped at 6'2 205lb 7% good skin tone and good peak
so ,,naturals usually stop at 16-17 inches if realy great arms and geneticaly gifted IF THEY ARE TRULY 7% OR UNDER,,as natural you can be over 16-17 inches as in 17.5 inches but it will be with higher bodyfat 10-12% ,,
17.5 inches will be the max for natural at about5'10 ,,it will not be 6% it will be 10%+ and it will reveal in over all mass nto size but mass! a 5 year hormonized bodybuild with average arm respond
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A 16 inch cut arm is a lot better than a bloated 19 inch arm. 99% of the population agrees, you are in a minority schmoe.
ha ha,,, somones sitting there with skinny fat 16's, dont type too hard, they might just snap!
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16 '' is OK for a natural , cocksuckers.
Epic pressing your arm against your body
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um ..ill tell you exactly
i train right now a fella who go for his pro natural card,,he is true professional who only did some pro hormone lol but no he is profesional because his hormones use was few years back he is natural to me ,,
anyways he is 6'2 205lb 7% as of now ....arm mesure 16 inches ,,look like 19.5 inches when flexed,,if he doesnt flex you think he is swimmer,,moment he flex ...look like arnold little brother,,mesuredd arm 16.25 inches pumped at 6'2 205lb 7% good skin tone and good peak
so ,,naturals usually stop at 16-17 inches if realy great arms and geneticaly gifted IF THEY ARE TRULY 7% OR UNDER,,as natural you can be over 16-17 inches as in 17.5 inches but it will be with higher bodyfat 10-12% ,,
17.5 inches will be the max for natural at about5'10 ,,it will not be 6% it will be 10%+ and it will reveal in over all mass nto size but mass! a 5 year hormonized bodybuild with average arm respond
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Thanks bro, that's around the type of numbers i was thinking.
A lot of delusionites in this thread.
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19 inch but dense 19 inch and conditioned 18.75-19.25 inch,,
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you are still an idiot i see.
any close to 6' pro with arms that dont look like sticks will have at least 20" measurement.
any smaller and they'd look like absolute twigs- way worse than just a "weak bodypart".
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Epic pressing your arm against your body
Would it be better if I press it against yours ::),what a fucking homo.
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Would it be better if I press it against yours ::),what a fucking homo.
;D
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with BDB about 36"
How much you doing on concentration curls BDB?
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with BDB about 36"
;D
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you are still an idiot i see.
any close to 6' pro with arms that dont look like sticks will have at least 20" measurement.
any smaller and they'd look like absolute twigs- way worse than just a "weak bodypart".
really now?
have you look at dan hil lately? or maybe you hav elooked at shari kamali lately? and shari had seo in his arms,, profesional doesnt mean you hav eto have 20 inch arm lol what profesional mean is that your condition is so good and sits nicely to the eye that your arm even if mesure 18-19 inches will look 20! ,,
if you only knew how many profesionals walk around with 15 inch forams lol ,,some even 14!
bodybuilding is illusion ,,17 inch bodybuilder arms in condition will look 18-18.5 easy
both dorian and hainey had arms mesure 18.5-19.5 inches somewhere in between ....and frank zane didnt even have 18! he ws mr o with 17.5 inch arms flexed and pumped! ! ! at 5'9!
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"For the world is Hell, and men are on the one hand the tormented souls and on the other the devils in it.
The conviction that the world, and therefore man too, is something which really ought not to exist is in fact calculated to instill in us indulgence towards one another: for what can be expected of beings placed in such a situation as we are? From this point of view one might indeed consider that the appropriate form of address between man and man ought to be, not 'monsieur,' 'sir,' but 'fellow sufferer,' 'compagnon de misères.' However strange this may sound it corresponds to the nature of the case, makes us see other men in a true light and reminds us of what are the most necessary of all things: tolerance, patience, forbearance and charity, which each of us needs and which each of us therefore owes."
--Arthur Schopenhauer, 1851
You're not as smart as you think you are. Maldoror is a molestation fantasy.
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notice that the waist size doesnt realy change , comparing deisel with the other 2.....
just illustrating that yates' arms had to be round high 19's/20 in pre-injury
waist size expanded, yes
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bodybuilding is illusion ,,17 inch bodybuilder arms in condition will look 18-18.5 easy
frank zane didnt even have 18! he ws mr o with 17.5 inch arms flexed and pumped! ! ! at 5'9!
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and franco, dickerson, bannout
larry scott probably measured under 19 too, he's 5'8", competed at under 200
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16 '' is OK for a natural , cocksuckers.
is that recent?
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is that recent?
Are you getting turned on?
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and franco, dickerson, bannout
larry scott probably measured under 19 too, he's 5'8", competed at under 200
banout ,,dicejerson all of them around 18 inch on stage..pumped flexed 17.75-18.25 pumped and flexed on stage,,frank zane about 17 inches on stage...still didnt make a diff ...3 time mr o which tell you again and again ...condition is everything when it comes to bodybuild ,,its only recent 10 years when this became a joke
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...condition is everything when it comes to bodybuild
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FACT 8)
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banout ,,dicejerson all of them around 18 inch on stage..pumped flexed 17.75-18.25 pumped and flexed on stage,,frank zane about 17 inches on stage...still didnt make a diff ...3 time mr o which tell you again and again ...condition is everything when it comes to bodybuild ,,its only recent 10 years when this became a joke
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dickerson was smaller than zane, surely?
bannout had great shape, long bellies in bis and tris, he really appeared bigger than he was
dickerson was a master at presentation
franco was arnolds friend...
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Natural arm god
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Natural arm god
Who ever the fuk told you that guy was natty is the biggest lying sac of flaming shit.
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Natural arm god
Killer bees :D
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Natural ::) arm god
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Natural arm god
As in only eating 2 jamaican meals a day ''natural'' ?
I hope you re just kidding and try to get a raise out of people, if not you're one lying piece of scumbag, like your jamaicana friend.
You guys did atleast 9 cycles, now too broke to buy stuff and clean for 3 months thus natural.
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As in only eating 2 jamaican meals a day ''natural'' ?
I hope you re just kidding and try to get a raise out of people, if not you're one lying piece of scumbag, like your jamaicana friend.
You guys did atleast 9 cycles, now too broke to buy stuff and clean for 3 months thus natural.
lol,,when your arms hit 19 inch lol you look inshape....low doubles...you are living from steroid to steroid,,bgi diff betwen 19 inch and 25-30% bodyfat and an inshape bodybuild at low doubles that spot 19 inch ,,even 18 and 17.5 inches are hormonized
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Natural arm god
phil heath like width
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why is it when a little skinny shitstain Like DJ 181 posts a pic of Zane....they act as if they are Frank Zane?
cause a mans gotta dream.
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really now?
have you look at dan hil lately? or maybe you hav elooked at shari kamali lately?
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my arms have the same structure as these two guys. i hate it. very thin from the front- no thickness to the outer bicep. flexed the have great peak and separation, but the long head of the tricep is weak when the arm is hanging relaxed. they are my weakest body part and what stopped me from competing as i felt i couldnt be complete enough in my own mind to be competitive.
i have tried every routine to bring them up. are they doomed to be shitty or is there anything i can do to get them growing?
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phil heath like width
HaHa....me narrow, that's a first ::)
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Be Francis measured Dorian's arms at 47 centimeters in circumference right before he stepped onstage for the 1995 Olympia. That is 20.5".
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Hahahahahaha, you are the math equivalent of a 3 year old..
47 cm = 18.50 inches
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my arms have the same structure as these two guys. i hate it. very thin from the front- no thickness to the outer bicep. flexed the have great peak and separation, but the long head of the tricep is weak when the arm is hanging relaxed. they are my weakest body part and what stopped me from competing as i felt i couldnt be complete enough in my own mind to be competitive.
i have tried every routine to bring them up. are they doomed to be shitty or is there anything i can do to get them growing?
Kinda hard to tell without a pic ;D
You know the deal....muscle shape and insertion = genetics.
I'm sure GH15 can give you advice on SEO and site injection to fill in the gaps...prolly the only remedy I would think.
Side question.....Tren ace or Tren E....and what's a good dosage ? also am I playing with fire as far as BP with Tren?....i'm not 25 anymore
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Be Francis measured Dorian's arms at 47 centimeters in circumference right before he stepped onstage for the 1995 Olympia. That is 20.5".
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Fucking moron... 47 centimeters is 18.5" NOT 20.5".... How fucking difficult is it to do the math. 1" = 2.54 centimeters...
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why is it when a little skinny shitstain Like DJ 181 posts a pic of Zane....they act as if they are Frank Zane?
people think zane is very attainable
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people think zane is very attainable
Which is funny because nothing could be farther from the truth. Anybody can get big with the right drugs, but only a very small fraction of bodybuilders will be able to attain anything approaching Zane's structure... which is all muscle insertion & skeletal genetics, and cannot be changed...
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Which is funny because nothing could be farther from the truth. Anybody can get big with the right drugs, but only a very small fraction of bodybuilders will be able to attain anything approaching Zane's structure... which is all muscle insertion & skeletal genetics, and cannot be changed...
otherwise there'd be millions of zanes walking around
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otherwise there'd be millions of zanes walking around
But there are millions of inzanes walking around...
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Side question.....Tren ace or Tren E....and what's a good dosage ? also am I playing with fire as far as BP with Tren?....i'm not 25 anymore
u know, i have a friend just like you. i know he is "on" because i know the guy he buys from (he doesnt know this).
he's always randomly waiting for me to finish my set so he can throw in a "hey, have you heard of testosterone enan...etanat...ezakanat o...or something like that?"
he fucken knows what the damn name of the testosterone enanthate is!!!! i know he Is fuckn using it because the guy he bought off told me, but for some fucked up reason he doesnt want people to know so he throws the shit that you constantly type..."oh btw, on a side note, im thinking of doing a small first cycle, but only one cycle and thats it. do you think test e or prop for first cycle beginner like me?"
do you or do you not realise these are lying characteristics? when just randomly out of no where you start asking questions that even 9am to 5pm working office people would know that have never seen a gym in their life and here you are surrounded by drug information asking simple retard questions to "try" and throw people off and make them "think" you have no clue about steroids. do you know this is a SEVERE lying characteristic?
FUCK OFF!!!
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Kinda hard to tell without a pic ;D
Side question.....Tren ace or Tren E....and what's a good dosage ? also am I playing with fire as far as BP with Tren?....i'm not 25 anymore
ha! this is true :D
I much prefer ace over enan. seems to hit harder faster, and give the muscle a more grainy look. for me ace is king. were both long in tooth, but I have no problem running ace at 700mg/wk and my bp is great. this will vary by individual. yours might go thru the roof. no real way of knowing.
as for dosage, what kind of look do you want? tren is dosage dependent when it comes to the look you achieve. the more you run, the better the gains and the harder you get. it's not like test in this regard. some who'll grow well off 1g of test a week won't make significant quality gains by doubling it. on tren you sure as fuck will. there's no dosage ceiling/ gains return with this shit. it's pure rocket fuel bro. the more the better.
me, I'm going to run 300/300/300/300mg/wk of prop/tren/masteron/npp next month. I have the size I want. now I want to tighten up just a hair more and put on 5-7 pounds of pure lean. that's why im keeping the ace at 300.
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ha! this is true :D
I much prefer ace over enan. seems to hit harder faster, and give the muscle a more grainy look. for me ace is king. were both long in tooth, but I have no problem running ace at 700mg/wk and my bp is great. this will vary by individual. yours might go thru the roof. no real way of knowing.
as for dosage, what kind of look do you want? tren is dosage dependent when it comes to the look you achieve. the more you run, the better the gains and the harder you get. it's not like test in this regard. some who'll grow well off 1g of test a week won't make significant quality gains by doubling it. on tren you sure as fuck will. there's no dosage ceiling/ gains return with this shit. it's pure rocket fuel bro. the more the better.
me, I'm going to run 300/300/300/300mg/wk of prop/tren/masteron/npp next month. I have the size I want. now I want to tighten up just a hair more and put on 5-7 pounds of pure lean. that's why im keeping the ace at 300.
whats your pinning schedule goign to look like on that cycle next month? 100mg of each compound on M, W, F?
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u know, i have a friend just like you. i know he is "on" because i know the guy he buys from (he doesnt know this).
he's always randomly waiting for me to finish my set so he can throw in a "hey, have you heard of testosterone enan...etanat...ezakanat o...or something like that?"
he fucken knows what the damn name of the testosterone enanthate is!!!! i know he Is fuckn using it because the guy he bought off told me, but for some fucked up reason he doesnt want people to know so he throws the shit that you constantly type..."oh btw, on a side note, im thinking of doing a small first cycle, but only one cycle and thats it. do you think test e or prop for first cycle beginner like me?"
do you or do you not realise these are lying characteristics? when just randomly out of no where you start asking questions that even 9am to 5pm working office people would know that have never seen a gym in their life and here you are surrounded by drug information asking simple retard questions to "try" and throw people off and make them "think" you have no clue about steroids. do you know this is a SEVERE lying characteristic?
FUCK OFF!!!
I ask the question because i'm thinking about taking some juice....it's really not that hard to follow
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ha! this is true :D
I much prefer ace over enan. seems to hit harder faster, and give the muscle a more grainy look. for me ace is king. were both long in tooth, but I have no problem running ace at 700mg/wk and my bp is great. this will vary by individual. yours might go thru the roof. no real way of knowing.
as for dosage, what kind of look do you want? tren is dosage dependent when it comes to the look you achieve. the more you run, the better the gains and the harder you get. it's not like test in this regard. some who'll grow well off 1g of test a week won't make significant quality gains by doubling it. on tren you sure as fuck will. there's no dosage ceiling/ gains return with this shit. it's pure rocket fuel bro. the more the better.
me, I'm going to run 300/300/300/300mg/wk of prop/tren/masteron/npp next month. I have the size I want. now I want to tighten up just a hair more and put on 5-7 pounds of pure lean. that's why im keeping the ace at 300.
Well that fucking sucks because my boy suggested i run Enth the first time and i ordered two fucking bottles of it....is it crap? or should i run it. I pick it up TONIGHT.
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Fucking moron... 47 centimeters is 18.5" NOT 20.5".... How fucking difficult is it to do the math. 1" = 2.54 centimeters...
Fucking moron...how hard is it to type on google "centimeter, inch" and then get the exact conversion of one to the other? I simply didn't bother checking. In fact, I am smarter than average for even remembering that one inch is around 2 and a half centimeters. But because I didn't get it exactly right means I am stupid, huh? Who has all these conversions memorized by heart with decimal place precision? Einstein certainly didn't.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Fucking moron...how hard is it to type on google "centimeter, inch" and then get the exact conversion of one to the other? I simply didn't bother checking. In fact, I am smarter than average for even remembering that one inch is around 2 and a half centimeters. But because I didn't get it exactly right means I am stupid, huh? Who has all these conversions memorized by heart with decimal place precision? Einstein certainly didn't.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LOL....come on dude...if you are going to play this role you have to do better than that.
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He is playing all of you! fools posting tyring to help him out about "whats a good dosage for beginer?" ::)
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whats your pinning schedule goign to look like on that cycle next month? 100mg of each compound on M, W, F?
100mg tren/100 mg prop mon
100mg mast/100mg npp tues
etc
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Well that fucking sucks because my boy suggested i run Enth the first time and i ordered two fucking bottles of it....is it crap? or should i run it. I pick it up TONIGHT.
it's not junk. it'll work. I just prefer, and most guys I know prefer ace.