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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: BayGBM on May 11, 2011, 10:26:57 AM
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an all drugs physique is there ever was one.
We have all seen this kind of post many times. What the hell does it mean? ??? Are there any pros physiques winning titles that are not all drugs? Mike Morris, Tom Price, Craig Titus, Wheeler, even Doz Yates looks like a mere mortal when not "on." Whose physique is not "all drugs"? There posters who say this always end up looking worse than the bodybuilder they are ostensibly criticizing.
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all syphilis damage.
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jrod, no doubt
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jrod, no doubt
x2.
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Dorian is still 240 - 250 pounds .... He's by no means mortal ...
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Dorian is still 240 - 250 pounds .... He's by no means mortal ...
He's by no means natural...
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We have all seen this kind of post many times. What the hell does it mean? ??? Are there any pros physiques winning titles that are not all drugs? Mike Morris, Tom Price, Craig Titus, Wheeler, even Doz Yates looks like a mere mortal when not "on." Whose physique is not "all drugs"? There posters who say this always end up looking worse than the bodybuilder they are ostensibly criticizing.
a guy who's whole look is entirely dependant on the drug they take is an all drugs guy.
burnieka, for example, is an all drugs guy due to the massive amounts of tren (and other hardeners) he's running and the look it gives him.
all drugs guy doesnt necessarily mean how big they are, or how much they took to get that big, since everyone has their feet in the pool- its what they take to achieve that 'look' that makes them an 'all drugs' guy.
muntzer is another classic example of an 'all drugs' guy.
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He's by no means natural...
I concur ... but who really knows , i'm not asking him, and he's still big when you stand next to him ...
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ronnie early-mid 90s was not all drugs
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(http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/blogs/lonnie/wp-content/uploads/XMAS-08-Ray-men.jpg)
i'd say shawn ray has a good base. his brother isn't a user, and a pretty thick guy naturally. unfortunately, a guy like alex23 ::) if he was a pro and came off, years later he'd still be thick.
i think prince and flex, esp, were ectomorphs before the drugs and just reverted back.
all based on body types. shawn was already a meso before he met john brown.
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a guy who's whole look is entirely dependant on the drug they take is an all drugs guy.
burnieka, for example, is an all drugs guy due to the massive amounts of tren (and other hardeners) he's running and the look it gives him.
all drugs guy doesnt necessarily mean how big they are, or how much they took to get that big, since everyone has their feet in the pool- its what they take to achieve that 'look' that makes them an 'all drugs' guy.
muntzer is another classic example of an 'all drugs' guy.
Agree.
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We have all seen this kind of post many times. What the hell does it mean? ??? Are there any pros physiques winning titles that are not all drugs? Mike Morris, Tom Price, Craig Titus, Wheeler, even Doz Yates looks like a mere mortal when not "on." Whose physique is not "all drugs"? There posters who say this always end up looking worse than the bodybuilder they are ostensibly criticizing.
The example of Tom Prince is not a good one, because the damage to his kidneys and the medical treatment he went through made him lose a lot more muscle than just going off the steroids would have made him lose. If he had no damage to his organs and went off the steroids, he would probably weight a relatively lean 220 lbs. The muscle you have left after you go off steroids is the result of years of working out. Just training as heavy as these guys do for 10 to 15 years straight gives you over 40 lbs of muscle more than the average man. They are not all drugs, although they wouldn't be as big as they are and as ripped onstage without drugs. You cannot maintain that huge amount of muscle whilst dieting to 3% bodyfat without drugs. It is impossible.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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The example of Tom Prince is not a good one, because the damage to his kidneys and the medical treatment he went through made him lose a lot more muscle than just going off the steroids would have made him lose. If he had no damage to his organs and went off the steroids, he would probably weight a relatively lean 220 lbs. The muscle you have left after you go off steroids is the result of years of working out. Just training as heavy as these guys do for 10 to 15 years straight gives you over 40 lbs of muscle more than the average man. They are not all drugs, although they wouldn't be as big as they are and as ripped onstage without drugs. You cannot maintain that huge amount of muscle whilst dieting to 3% bodyfat without drugs. It is impossible.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
shut up, stupid.
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We have all seen this kind of post many times. What the hell does it mean? ??? Are there any pros physiques winning titles that are not all drugs? Mike Morris, Tom Price, Craig Titus, Wheeler, even Doz Yates looks like a mere mortal when not "on." Whose physique is not "all drugs"? There posters who say this always end up looking worse than the bodybuilder they are ostensibly criticizing.
Its more of a Getbig "insider" joke..
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I agree that Tom is not a good example because of his kidneys
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Matarrazzo seemed to be a guy who would have a solid base, I know he had heart problem, but what does he look like today?
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a guy who's whole look is entirely dependant on the drug they take is an all drugs guy.
burnieka, for example, is an all drugs guy due to the massive amounts of tren (and other hardeners) he's running and the look it gives him.
all drugs guy doesnt necessarily mean how big they are, or how much they took to get that big, since everyone has their feet in the pool- its what they take to achieve that 'look' that makes them an 'all drugs' guy.
muntzer is another classic example of an 'all drugs' guy.
Who IS NOT all drugs then? Everyones look is dependant on the drugs... I always thought it meant someone who doesn't work that hard but has tremendous response to hormones and relies on that. Ronnie wouldn't have looked the way he did without trenbolona... does that mean you'd say he's all drugs?
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I believe that Sergio Oliva wasn't all drugs.
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The example of Tom Prince is not a good one, because the damage to his kidneys and the medical treatment he went through made him lose a lot more muscle than just going off the steroids would have made him lose. If he had no damage to his organs and went off the steroids, he would probably weight a relatively lean 220 lbs. The muscle you have left after you go off steroids is the result of years of working out. Just training as heavy as these guys do for 10 to 15 years straight gives you over 40 lbs of muscle more than the average man. They are not all drugs, although they wouldn't be as big as they are and as ripped onstage without drugs. You cannot maintain that huge amount of muscle whilst dieting to 3% bodyfat without drugs. It is impossible.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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(http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/blogs/lonnie/wp-content/uploads/XMAS-08-Ray-men.jpg)
i'd say shawn ray has a good base. his brother isn't a user, and a pretty thick guy naturally. unfortunately, a guy like alex23 ::) if he was a pro and came off, years later he'd still be thick.
i think prince and flex, esp, were ectomorphs before the drugs and just reverted back.
all based on body types. shawn was already a meso before he met john brown.
correct, Ray has great genes, and with a pro like Brown guiding him from day 1, it didnt hurt!
Shawn Ray was not all drugs
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(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=47415&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Mustafa_Mohammad/Mustafa_Mohammad_060.jpg)
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We have all seen this kind of post many times. What the hell does it mean? ??? Are there any pros physiques winning titles that are not all drugs? Mike Morris, Tom Price, Craig Titus, Wheeler, even Doz Yates looks like a mere mortal when not "on." Whose physique is not "all drugs"? There posters who say this always end up looking worse than the bodybuilder they are ostensibly criticizing.
What tier was Tom Prince? No homo but my guess would be tier 1.
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All pros are ALL DRUGS without none are any resemblance to themselves on
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All pros are ALL DRUGS without none are any resemblance to themselves on
definitely
however, some are all drugs, others as the OP said, have a foundation, plus, I believe guys like yates, gaspari, platz, ray, haney, labrada, etc had a work-ethic that was on another level whilst competing
off the sauce, theyre obviously only human
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you dummies need to take into account that when off these guy are not maintaining the massive food intake nor training the same.
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(http://skeptisys.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/bonds-b-and-a-2.jpg)
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Face it, Shawn is just good looking.
(http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/blogs/lonnie/wp-content/uploads/XMAS-08-Ray-men.jpg)
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a guy who's whole look is entirely dependant on the drug they take is an all drugs guy.
burnieka, for example, is an all drugs guy due to the massive amounts of tren (and other hardeners) he's running and the look it gives him.
all drugs guy doesnt necessarily mean how big they are, or how much they took to get that big, since everyone has their feet in the pool- its what they take to achieve that 'look' that makes them an 'all drugs' guy.
muntzer is another classic example of an 'all drugs' guy.
This. Pretty simple and obvious term.
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What a fucking dumb ass conversation .....fucking know it all dildos trying to distinguish which steroid filled goon is more of a druggie than the other steroid filled goon.
Classic Getbig.."I have an expert opinion" thread ::)
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(http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/blogs/lonnie/wp-content/uploads/XMAS-08-Ray-men.jpg)
i'd say shawn ray has a good base. his brother isn't a user, and a pretty thick guy naturally. unfortunately, a guy like alex23 ::) if he was a pro and came off, years later he'd still be thick.
i think prince and flex, esp, were ectomorphs before the drugs and just reverted back.
all based on body types. shawn was already a meso before he met john brown.
wtf? A good "base" does not win contests. It would not even get you in 10th place. You are basically speculating and guessing about what guys would look like without help and in most cases that is something we will never know.
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What a fucking dumb ass conversation .....fucking know it all dildos trying to distinguish which steroid filled goon is more of a druggie than the other steroid filled goon.
Classic Getbig.."I have an expert opinion" thread ::)
feel free to see yourself and your battered self esteem out the door then, sport.
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jrod, no doubt
X3, jroid, all drugs, all the way to the top
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shut up, stupid.
Noob, read your username carefully. That is what you are: no one. STFU and talk respectfully to me, a senior member of the board who has been here for much longer than you and is simply far more important than your dumbass.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Bodybuilders are not all drugs. Ronnie at age 47 and drug free still carries 50 lbs of lean muscle more than the average man. Bodybuilders who are all drugs are those who possesed fantastic genetics and were very lazy. Classic examples: Paul Dillet and Don Long. Those two were not very thick even on drugs, and without drugs they reversed to being twinks.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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What a fucking dumb ass conversation .....fucking know it all dildos trying to distinguish which steroid filled goon is more of a druggie than the other steroid filled goon.
Classic Getbig.."I have an expert opinion" thread ::)
You are a negative miserable ****
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Before and after shots where the pro has stopped training completely doesn`t show what he might look like if he was clean and kept training and eating correctly.
A pic of Tom Prince sux as an example also as he was very sick and anyone would have lost mucho muscle under his circumstances.
Who really gives a flying fuck anyway ? ;D
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the LEANER you are the shittier yuo will look with no pump if truly natural...
hormonized fellas come to a point that with out hormones they look like regular peopel in many cases less ,,their hormones are all wacked in body from years of dependency,,
in any case you can see very well what happened to bodybuild off hormones and how this is very much all hormone typf of activity ,,wether you are like rodrigezx and dont use crazy doses ,,or wether you are jason and use all you can eat hormone buffet,,the end result is same
gh15 approved
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The example of Tom Prince is not a good one, because the damage to his kidneys and the medical treatment he went through made him lose a lot more muscle than just going off the steroids would have made him lose. If he had no damage to his organs and went off the steroids, he would probably weight a relatively lean 220 lbs. The muscle you have left after you go off steroids is the result of years of working out. Just training as heavy as these guys do for 10 to 15 years straight gives you over 40 lbs of muscle more than the average man. They are not all drugs, although they wouldn't be as big as they are and as ripped onstage without drugs. You cannot maintain that huge amount of muscle whilst dieting to 3% bodyfat without drugs. It is impossible.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Well said.
Everything else said above is getbig mass hysteria and just confirms twink status for the posters.
GokSpeed.
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Bodybuilders are not all drugs. Ronnie at age 47 and drug free still carries 50 lbs of lean muscle more than the average man.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LMFAO!!!!!!! ;D ;D
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you dummies need to take into account that when off these guy are not maintaining the massive food intake nor training the same.
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You are a negative miserable ****
no shit. the guys screams insecurity.
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no shit. the guys screams insecurity.
... that coming from the gimmick "guy" who can't post his "pic"..
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i think the only one who is capable of holding his width without juicing is shawn ray. he still has the mass but only not the good shape.
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Before and after shots where the pro has stopped training completely doesn`t show what he might look like if he was clean and kept training and eating correctly.
8)
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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...
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ROFL
you are funny, I don't believe all that crap ppl are saying about you
Anyone who believes any of those lies is an idiot..
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X3, jroid, all drugs, all the way to the top
You have a cool hat.
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(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=47415&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Mustafa_Mohammad/Mustafa_Mohammad_060.jpg)
lol.....damn, Mustafa has been Carb depleted for way too long
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Meso, Adrain & Ygbodybuilder are NOT all drugs and have an "otherwordly" genetic base.
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if I see Mustafa in the streets, I would have never guessed he lifted weights in his lifetime........this picture of him is terrible.....it's evident that some former Pro stop lifting all together once they call it a career....
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"not fat just bulkan brah, twink"
Good lord what the fuck is that....looks like 300lbs of shit in a 100lb bag!
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Good lord what the fuck is that....looks like 300lbs of shit in a 100lb bag!
its called insulina with every meal ,,gh andinsulina with every meal my friend,,it blows you from within yet its not real muscle....same exact duplica of phil heath ,,but i got news for you ...mustafa has little more foundation than phillip...
just wait till this fella heath get health problem or need to be out of hormones for a while...he will be a version of mustaf but to a worse degree
gh15 approved
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its called insulina with every meal ,,gh andinsulina with every meal my friend,,it blows you from within yet its not real muscle....same exact duplica of phil heath ,,but i got news for you ...mustafa has little more foundation than phillip...
just wait till this fella heath get health problem or need to be out of hormones for a while...he will be a version of mustaf but to a worse degree
gh15 approved
I was referring to Xerxes pic of some fat ass... ;)
But I agree with your 'bloofy' muscle created from untold insulin and GH dosing, I myself have witnessed friends coming off and shrinking to unrecognizable stamps.
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The example of Tom Prince is not a good one, because the damage to his kidneys and the medical treatment he went through made him lose a lot more muscle than just going off the steroids would have made him lose. If he had no damage to his organs and went off the steroids, he would probably weight a relatively lean 220 lbs. The muscle you have left after you go off steroids is the result of years of working out. Just training as heavy as these guys do for 10 to 15 years straight gives you over 40 lbs of muscle more than the average man. They are not all drugs, although they wouldn't be as big as they are and as ripped onstage without drugs. You cannot maintain that huge amount of muscle whilst dieting to 3% bodyfat without drugs. It is impossible.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Great post :)
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We have all seen this kind of post many times. What the hell does it mean? ??? Are there any pros physiques winning titles that are not all drugs? Mike Morris, Tom Price, Craig Titus, Wheeler, even Doz Yates looks like a mere mortal when not "on." Whose physique is not "all drugs"? There posters who say this always end up looking worse than the bodybuilder they are ostensibly criticizing.
Tom Prince , Not only all drugs, but the best example that Karma Is a Bitch.
Watch him in BFTO 2001 impressive what the right drugs can do to a twink.
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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We have all seen this kind of post many times. What the hell does it mean? ??? Are there any pros physiques winning titles that are not all drugs? Mike Morris, Tom Price, Craig Titus, Wheeler, even Doz Yates looks like a mere mortal when not "on." Whose physique is not "all drugs"? There posters who say this always end up looking worse than the bodybuilder they are ostensibly criticizing.
You're right. All drugs and genes.
If it were all drugs it wouldn't be the same lineup of faces every year at the top shows. We would have thousands of Ronnie Colemans walking around.
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no shit. the guys screams insecurity.
I've never heard him say anything positive. He hates everyone.
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wtf? A good "base" does not win contests. It would not even get you in 10th place. You are basically speculating and guessing about what guys would look like without help and in most cases that is something we will never know.
(http://www.ratemyarms.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/body-types-bodybuilding-ecto-meso-endo-classify1.png)
look here fruit boy. shawn ray n his brother are meso. flex was ecto. we know what alex 23 was. put those body types on drugs for 10yrs, and remove the drugs. you tend to revert back to your pre-drug physique. in other words the only way fat alex goes ecto is if you give him a HIV infection = full blown AIDS = wasting = Alex 23 ectomorph vs endo. ;D
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Noob, read your username carefully. That is what you are: no one. STFU and talk respectfully to me, a senior member of the board who has been here for much longer than you and is simply far more important than your dumbass.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Shut up, stupid!
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Somatotypes are just a fancy way of saying categorizing people: fat, good genetics and skinny. Pseudoscience lingo but has prevailed for a long time amongst gym bro scientists.
Has prevailed??
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Should I've written have instead? ??? Forgive me English is barely my 3rd language.
Content, not Grammar.
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Somatotypes are just a fancy way of saying categorizing people: fat, good genetics and skinny. Pseudoscience lingo but has prevailed for a long time amongst gym bro scientists.
You are right. We all know nutrient intake or physical activity doesn't affect the body structure. :D
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I said among gym bro-scientists.
Never mind
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What's your first and second language? Please do not tell me Twink and Cock.
Twink and Cock.
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Who gives a shit...seriously..
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Ok, I prefer to ask a question, so what really is your 1st and 2nd language? That's impressive if English is your 3rd language.
Let me guess: Swedish is 2nd...
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(http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/blogs/lonnie/wp-content/uploads/XMAS-08-Ray-men.jpg)
i'd say shawn ray has a good base. his brother isn't a user, and a pretty thick guy naturally. unfortunately, a guy like alex23 ::) if he was a pro and came off, years later he'd still be thick.
i think prince and flex, esp, were ectomorphs before the drugs and just reverted back.
all based on body types. shawn was already a meso before he met john brown.
You didn't know Shawn's brother competed? He was a user. And furthermore, both of those bros in the pic are probably on HRT right there. Nothing natural about either of those guys.
Alex would look like Chris Farley if he got off his drugs.
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Norwegian / farsi..
So that explains Xerxes...
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=376028.0;attach=413253;image)
who is this?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=376028.0;attach=413253;image)
who is this?
a recent pic of squadfather
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drug or not ,, tom prince look awesome
better live it once then never
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drug or not ,, tom prince look awesome
better live it once then never
fuck that , no physique is worth your health , none
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drug or not ,, tom prince look awesome
better live it once then never
This is the mentality of a functioning retard. Check yourself fellow.
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drug or not ,, tom prince look awesome
better live it once then never
I'll Pass. ::)
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drug or not ,, tom prince look awesome
better live it once then never
I'm sure Prince would give his left and right kidneys in order to never have to go through the shit he is going through now....wait a minute.
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past four posts are garbage.
in 100 years we will all be in the same place.
and after that we have an eternity together.
regardless whoever dies young, dies old, dies healthy dies sick, whatever.
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past four posts are garbage.
in 100 years we will all be in the same place.
and after that we have an eternity together.
regardless whoever dies young, dies old, dies healthy dies sick, whatever.
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better a hasbeen than a neverbeen
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fuck that , no physique is worth your health , none
yes it does , inject yourself to glorification and death
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fuck that , no physique is worth your health , none
Yep. I would rather be at a comfortable bodyweight and die at age 90 after having had a great life rather than carrying 320 lbs all day long, having high blood pressure, shrunk balls, a deformed head from GH, abdominal pain all day long from my internal organs growing due to GH, going blind from diabetes from insulin usage and then after all that dying at 60(at the most) in horrible pain due to acromegaly, with an infarcted heart, dependent on machines to clean my blood totally blind from diabetes. This is pretty much hell on Earth.
Modern bodybuilders = pushed it too far
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Yep. I would rather be at a comfortable bodyweight and die at age 90 after having had a great life rather than carrying 320 lbs all day long, having high blood pressure, shrunk balls, a deformed head from GH, abdominal pain all day long from my internal organs growing due to GH, going blind from diabetes from insulin usage and then after all that dying at 60(at the most) in horrible pain due to acromegaly, with an infarcted heart, dependent on machines to clean my blood totally blind from diabetes. This is pretty much hell on Earth.
Modern bodybuilders = pushed it too far
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Shut up, stupid.
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you dummies need to take into account that when off these guy are not maintaining the massive food intake nor training the same.
Before and after shots where the pro has stopped training completely doesn`t show what he might look like if he was clean and kept training and eating correctly.
A pic of Tom Prince sux as an example also as he was very sick and anyone would have lost mucho muscle under his circumstances.
Who really gives a flying fuck anyway ? ;D
The most sensible posts in this thread.
Seems to me like the current pro's in general either stay on after they retire to stay massive, or give up training altogether and become twinkish. Very few seem to do what i'd consider the best option and get off the gear(or more realistically low hrt doses), eat a decent semi clean diet, and train to stay in semi decent shape.
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We have all seen this kind of post many times. What the hell does it mean? ??? Are there any pros physiques winning titles that are not all drugs? Mike Morris, Tom Price, Craig Titus, Wheeler, even Doz Yates looks like a mere mortal when not "on." Whose physique is not "all drugs"? There posters who say this always end up looking worse than the bodybuilder they are ostensibly criticizing.
Good grief, another touching, insightful and heartfelt thread on large sweaty mens by our own "ZamQueer, Master of the Skin Flute".
Allow me, Princess Tinymeat. Certain drugs make you bigger and stronger than if you didn't take them, however when you get off them you return to being a regular guy. By "regular guy" I mean someone you, Miss BayGBM, wouldn't give the time of day to much less regale them with tales of your "credit score".
Have you told your mother yet that you like to play pin cushion at the local bathhouse? Easy there Boo Boo. I'd have a difficult time not belittling your dumbass even if you posted a serious thread or two. You and tbombz need to get together and activate your WonderTwink Powers.
Fuck that noise.
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who is this?
say what you will about this guy but i'm willing to bet that there is a gay guy somewhere chomping at the bit to fuck this guy
men, whether they be straight or gay, are all pigs
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say what you will about this guy but i'm willing to bet that there is a gay guy somewhere chomping at the bit to fuck this guy
men, whether they be straight or gay, are all pigs
That "gay guy" of which you speak is doubtless the nellie bearcub known here as BayGBM. As for normal (read: real) or faggoty men being "pigs", this truth I will tell you young man.
Real men may at times behave as "pigs" but rest assured they don't want to get porked.
Say it with me chilluns - Fuck That Noise.
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lol yes...that guy could make a small fortune if he was a escort who lived in BayGBM's area
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Real men may at times behave as "pigs" but rest assured they don't want to get porked.
That's an awesome line and would make a great bumper sticker, lmao!
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lol yes...that guy could make a small fortune if he was a escort who lived in BayGBM's area
Hey, how are you? Nice to have you back.
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who is this?
jabba the hutt
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That's an awesome line and would make a great bumper sticker, lmao!
Thanks. I'm just here to bring the truth.
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Hey, how are you? Nice to have you back.
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thanks but i'll be gone again once LA Noire comes out on tuesday
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jabba the hutt
If a certain nellie had her way, it'd be more like Jabin Da Butt. So fugly it looks like his neck threw up.
FTN.
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thanks but i'll be gone again once LA Noire comes out on tuesday
Your absence leaves a deep and disturbing void in all of our lives.
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thanks but i'll be gone again once LA Noire comes out on tuesday
Truth... I have been waiting for this game for months.
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