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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: gh15 on June 05, 2011, 02:55:22 PM
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today im going to talk about what create a true mass monster,,
in bodybuild there is size and then there is blown out of propition size,,whee everythign is huge,,you seen it starting in the mid 90s and at full force during the year of the mexicana dragon 2000,, that year drug intake was at al time availability to everyone and everyone was on everything they could get and everything was very very easy to get! ,,
now the mass monsters are diff than the regular bodybuild circa 1980s 1990s,, the mass monsters are blown up from within by insulina and gh ,,
this is the key componenets in taking them to the size talked about,,this size ofcourse is only true to offseason because many of them do not maintain it and need to lose alot of weight and size to stage level due to the way the fat is being held inside the muscle insted of between muscle and skin,,
the fellas i am talkin about called mass monsters ,,you see them around in the gyms,, they are 270 5'9 8% ,,they are 300lb 5'11 8% they are 5'5 240lb 8%,,they are very easy to detect but not due to quality but more of due to size,,the diameter is large ,,of EVERYTHING,,if you take close look at them and look into the gut area you wil seee that this is the true thing that grow in them ,,the rest is blown from within but the only thing that truely grow on them is the gut!,,the reason many dont pay attention is because the other bodyparts blow up too,,and due to specific anabolics and androgenics and the way the muscle push the skin from the inside,,,the veina are pronounced and the muscle give illusion of being in more condition than it truly is ,, those fellas look impressive until you put them next to true bodybuild that place high in high level competitions,,
now,, what bring those fella up to be mass monsters,,is hgh and insulina in doses you can nto even start dreaming off,, im talking here about 100 ius of insulina a day ,, i am talking here about 20-30 iu of gh a day ,,and they can take it and especialy in 2000 they could take it and then they had everything legit so they could show a better qualitative look eventhouhg it was illusion it was of a more quality than today since now day its harder to get legit products,,
so it is important to understand that the ingrediants to a mass monster DO NOT GO THROUGH ANABOLICS AND ANDROGENIC PER SAY ,,THEY GO THROUGH LOTS OF GH AND INSULINA INADDITION TO LOTS OF TESTOSTERONA and very high levels of anabolic such as npp eq and trenbolona,, but ! the main ingredients that with out them you will not see mass monster are INSULINA AND HGH ,,WITH OUT INSULINA YOU WILL NOT GET THERE,,THE REASON THERE IS 270LB 5'9 AND YOU SIT 5'9 AT 210 LB IS MAINLY INSULINA AND GH ,,HIGHER DOSES OF GH THAN YOU TAKE MUCH HIGHER ,,AND LOTS OF INSULINA THAT YOU DO NOT TAKE,,
SO ONCE AGAIN 5'9 260LB 8% IS A FELLA THAT IS SATURATED WITH INSULINA ,,ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ,, IF YOU TAKE OUT HIS INSULINA AND LEAV HIM WITH GH AND AAS ONLY HE WILL BE 220-230 LB 8% IN THE BETTER CASE AND IF VERY EXPERIENCED AND MANY YEARS OF USAGE BEHIND HIM AND CONSISTANT USAGE OF GH AND AAS,,
BUT! INORDER TO GET TO BE MASS MONSTER AND MASS MONSTER ARE THE 6'1 304 LB OR 6'1 296LB ....9% INORDER TO BE THEM ,,,THE DOSES OF INSULINA ARE VERY HIGH ,,AND TH EDOSES OF HGH ARE COUNTED BY THE VIALS NOT BY THE IUS!
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something else i forogto to mention,,many ask gh15 about fellas liek the coaches,,did he use insulina yada dee yada daa,,he is agsint it,,blee blaa bloo,,YES THE COACH USED INSULINA ,,like everyone of us did ,,i used it all most my career to get to be the size i needed but with much more moderation than the fucktards of the 2000s,, and inaddition! this is importanto for you to understand
THERE IS NO 5'6 220LB 8% WITH OUT INSULINA LOL NONE EXISTANT,, THERE IS NO 5'6 200LB ON STAGE WITH OUT INSULINA LOL ,,NON ESISTANT,,COACH AS I SAID MANY TIMES IS A TWISTER! OF THE TRUTH ,,HE IS NOT THE ONLY EXAMPLE BUT SINCE YOU ASK I ANSWER,,
FELLA AT 5'5 5'6 ARE VERY LITTLE FELLAS,,THEY HAVE NO SIZE,,THEY WOULD BE ON STEROID LIKE FRANK ZANE MAX! WITH HGH TO GET THERE OFCOURSE,,BUT FELLA 5;6 THAT SUDDENLY JUMP TO 220? HELL FUCKIN NO OFCOURSE IT IS WITH HGH AND INSULINA,,THEY JUST PTU EXCUSE THAT IT IS ONLY...220 BUT IN REALITY THOSE ARE DWARFS ,,THEY ARE LITTLE FELLAS,,THEIR 5'6 220 = 5'11 255.. AND THIS IN GOOD CONDITION OF SUB 10% IS ALWAYS WITH INSULINA,,
NEVER EVER RATIONALIZE THAT YOU SAW YOUR FRIEND AT HIGHSCHOOL AND HE WAS 135 LB 5'6 AND THEN CAME TO BE 170LB AND THEN 190LB AND THEN 225 LB ,,DOESNT WORK THIS WAY ,,THEY ALL GOT TO 200+ WITH HGH AND INSULINA,,THEY GOT TO 170+ WITH AAS,,
THEY HAD HELP ON THE WAY BUT LIKE THE GOOD OLE AMERICANO FILTH LIARS THEY JUST TOLD TO KEPT QUIET WHEN THEY GOT THE DRUGS ,,AND DECIDED TO JUST SHUT UP ABOUT IT ,,NOT FROM FEAR BUT FROM SHAME! BECAUEE THEY COULD NOT MAKE IT NO WHERE EVEN WITH IT ,,AND STILL DID NOT COMPETE ,,AND WITH NO SHIRT DOUBLE BI ...STILL COULDNT SHOW NO DETAIL IN MID BACK AND LOWER BACK ! ,,THIS IS THE TRUTH FRIENDS
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oh,,and stop pming me i will get heaven and all my family shoudl be blessed and all that shit ,,i knwo what im doing ,,and i took calculated risk ,,im not worried,,its you that i want to stand in the faces of liars and say FUCK YOU I KNOW THE TRUTH so dont come to me with this balonie!,, this is what i do it for ,,i want you to do it to them when you hear it going around in gyms and anywhere,, and you sure do you sure do,,im proud
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god, i dont understand how you can use 100ius a day, after only 3 days at 60ius I get crazy water retention, which result in hypertension and get headaches all the time.. have to stop 2 days before starting again.. do you have any tip to reduce insulina water retention??
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THERE IS NO 5'6 200LB ON STAGE WITH OUT INSULINA LOL
And what about myself...? ??? I'm 5'7" 195 onstage...and I have very small joints, bones...fella with average or big bones could be easily weight even more...
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And what about myself...? ??? I'm 5'7" 195 onstage...and I have very small joints, bones...fella with average or big bones could be easily weight even more...
Yes and you use insulin, dont lie about it, your broke ass can afford a bottle of Humalog ::)
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Interesting that full ROM upright rows play no role in this ???
Exactly. Looks like mr. 15 doesn't really know what he's talking about.
Move over gh15, there's a new GOD in town, and his name is "Big" BFRS!
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Humilin-r is otc and Humalog is prescription in the US, is this correct? One would start to experiment with hypoglycemia at 5iu post workout? Always have a buddy and a sugary soda if things get hairy?
We don't want some desperate kid going into shock.
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Yes and you use insulin, dont lie about it, your broke ass can afford a bottle of Humalog ::)
Thunderdome approved
exactly..this fucking midget actually think people here believe him.. namat heres a tip; instead of lying about it, just dont talk about it, better image equal to more contracts so you can afford your precious hgh!!
now post spread pussy pics of your wife
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Humilin-r is otc and Humalog is prescription in the US, is this correct? One would start to experiment with hypoglycemia at 5iu post workout? Always have a buddy and a sugary soda if things get hairy?
We don't want some desperate kid going into shock.
all i have to say is dont take slin if you care about dying. one single little 5iu shot can kill you. this product is made for people ready to die for fucking mass!
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all i have to say is dont take slin if you care about dying. one single little 5iu shot can kill you. this product is made for people ready to die for fucking mass!
It's easy to kill babies and the elderly with insulin but not adults. That being said, comas are no fun whatsoever and should be avoided at all costs. Take it slow, do your research, and bring a friend along and you should be okay.
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It's easy to kill babies and the elderly with insulin but not adults. That being said, comas are no fun whatsoever and should be avoided at all costs. Take it slow, do your research, and bring a friend along and you should be okay.
lol i dont call being in a coma for 20 years 'being alive'.. its just like dying.. and on top of that you wake up and see lots of friends,family members all dead, gf with another guy, no job, dont understand shit about new technology, haha that would be a nightmare
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lol i dont call being in a coma for 20 years 'being alive'.. its just like dying.. and on top of that you wake up and see lots of friends,family members all dead, gf with another guy, no job, dont understand shit about new technology, haha that would be a nightmare
Diabetic comas last a matter of hours to a few days and are reversible. There is a lot of misinformation on insulin use and we should do our best to combat it just as other have fought the misinformation about steroid use. Personally I don't care for the insulin achieved aesthetic and I'm against it's use. It's what's popular now and the kids are going to try it so we might as well help them do it with the highest degree of precaution.
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insulin is so cheap to buy around here lol ..
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So much insulina, but where is mishko? ;D
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i still dont recomend insulina,,reason is ..it truly ruin lines and physiqe no matter what philsulina show you he would have much better lines with out the insulina..the problem is you cant get the size up to the 250lb zone with out it...this is the problem you will be stuck running around 220-230 6-8% and also only if top of the top effort and knowledge of your body,, but to really walk around 240 250 260 5'9 8% those numbers do not come with out insulina,,220 maybe many of them use insulina too ,,but 250 ...forget about it
conditioned numbers that is! condition = under 10%,, 8% and under usually with exeptions of some water fountains i been seeing around lately ,,
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something else i forogto to mention,,many ask gh15 about fellas liek the coaches,,did he use insulina yada dee yada daa,,he is agsint it,,blee blaa bloo,,YES THE COACH USED INSULINA ,,like everyone of us did ,,i used it all most my career to get to be the size i needed but with much more moderation than the fucktards of the 2000s,, and inaddition! this is importanto for you to understand
THERE IS NO 5'6 220LB 8% WITH OUT INSULINA LOL NONE EXISTANT,, THERE IS NO 5'6 200LB ON STAGE WITH OUT INSULINA LOL ,,NON ESISTANT,,COACH AS I SAID MANY TIMES IS A TWISTER! OF THE TRUTH ,,HE IS NOT THE ONLY EXAMPLE BUT SINCE YOU ASK I ANSWER,,
FELLA AT 5'5 5'6 ARE VERY LITTLE FELLAS,,THEY HAVE NO SIZE,,THEY WOULD BE ON STEROID LIKE FRANK ZANE MAX! WITH HGH TO GET THERE OFCOURSE,,BUT FELLA 5;6 THAT SUDDENLY JUMP TO 220? HELL FUCKIN NO OFCOURSE IT IS WITH HGH AND INSULINA,,THEY JUST PTU EXCUSE THAT IT IS ONLY...220 BUT IN REALITY THOSE ARE DWARFS ,,THEY ARE LITTLE FELLAS,,THEIR 5'6 220 = 5'11 255.. AND THIS IN GOOD CONDITION OF SUB 10% IS ALWAYS WITH INSULINA,,
NEVER EVER RATIONALIZE THAT YOU SAW YOUR FRIEND AT HIGHSCHOOL AND HE WAS 135 LB 5'6 AND THEN CAME TO BE 170LB AND THEN 190LB AND THEN 225 LB ,,DOESNT WORK THIS WAY ,,THEY ALL GOT TO 200+ WITH HGH AND INSULINA,,THEY GOT TO 170+ WITH AAS,,
THEY HAD HELP ON THE WAY BUT LIKE THE GOOD OLE AMERICANO FILTH LIARS THEY JUST TOLD TO KEPT QUIET WHEN THEY GOT THE DRUGS ,,AND DECIDED TO JUST SHUT UP ABOUT IT ,,NOT FROM FEAR BUT FROM SHAME! BECAUEE THEY COULD NOT MAKE IT NO WHERE EVEN WITH IT ,,AND STILL DID NOT COMPETE ,,AND WITH NO SHIRT DOUBLE BI ...STILL COULDNT SHOW NO DETAIL IN MID BACK AND LOWER BACK ! ,,THIS IS THE TRUTH FRIENDS
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LOL...you kept you're big mouth quite against me for a while but I guess you're drunk posting again. I used insulin..hahaha, Like I really want to fuck up my metabolic pathways and everything else that insulin regulates in the body. Go back and read physiology 101. Just because you had a shitty response to gear doesn't mean I did. Fuck sometimes you''re right on but most of the time you flat out talk out your ass. Who's handling your account this week clown?
You're a giant turd stuck at the end of a colon waiting to come out...but you're still stuck.
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all i have to say is dont take slin if you care about dying. one single little 5iu shot can kill you. this product is made for people ready to die for fucking mass!
5iu's needs something like 50grams of glucose. The insulin will clear what's in your blood first, and then scavenge for the rest while it is active.
Your body stores glucose in muscles, liver and brain.
5iu's isn't going to do shit, assuming the person is healthy.
Stop trying to scare people when you have no clue what you are talking about.
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LOL...you kept you're big mouth quite against me for a while but I guess you're drunk posting again. I used insulin..hahaha, Like I really want to fuck up my metabolic pathways and everything else that insulin regulates in the body. Go back and read physiology 101. Just because you had a shitty response to gear doesn't mean I did. Fuck sometimes you''re right on but most of the time you flat out talk out your ass. Who's handling your account this week clown?
You're a giant turd stuck at the end of a colon waiting to come out...but you're still stuck.
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i alredy called you twister of the truth ,, there is wizards and then there are twisters,, you chose who you go witn ,,you are a twister,,my pupils know you as twister,,
the moment your clown self understand that there is no 5'6 220 with otu insulina is going to be a good day ,,you do understand this but for some reason you seem to twist! reality ,,you make few months usage or few weeks usage like its nto exioxsting,,you stopped at nothing to get to where you wanted to and couldndt,,while i got there ...you could not,,so ofcourse you say no no yada yada,,but in reality you did eveyrthing we did,,you stopped at noghint only to discover insulina on you didnt work right,,it doesnt work right on anyone,,but some can pull it...see philsulina,,while others...like tropopina can not pull it as well yet pull it well for gym and expo looks,,whiel some like ummmmm you! can not pull it,,you are in good group that involve trey brower though!
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peopel acting liek we take some 4 untis of slin lol ,,if you only fuckin knew lol if you onlly fuckin knew lol ,,
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peopel acting liek we take some 4 untis of slin lol ,,if you only fuckin knew lol if you onlly fuckin knew lol ,,
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I'm sure you guys take a ton, shouldn't the beginner start slow and judge their own sensitivity before advancing to the pro doses?
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i alredy called you twister of the truth ,, there is wizards and then there are twisters,, you chose who you go witn ,,you are a twister,,my pupils know you as twister,,
the moment your clown self understand that there is no 5'6 220 with otu insulina is going to be a good day ,,you do understand this but for some reason you seem to twist! reality ,,you make few months usage or few weeks usage like its nto exioxsting,,you stopped at nothing to get to where you wanted to and couldndt,,while i got there ...you could not,,so ofcourse you say no no yada yada,,but in reality you did eveyrthing we did,,you stopped at noghint only to discover insulina on you didnt work right,,it doesnt work right on anyone,,but some can pull it...see philsulina,,while others...like tropopina can not pull it as well yet pull it well for gym and expo looks,,whiel some like ummmmm you! can not pull it,,you are in good group that involve trey brower though!
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No sister, you're the liar and I say that with total confidence. 1. You know a little about drugs but nothing about training. 35 years of heavy training is the reason why I carry more muscle than most pros do when they off. I've pointed this out a million times but since you nothing about human function of the body you can't comprehend. Look at your buddy Mustafa, a great example. He's been off for years, I was off for over 3 years and carried at least 20-25 more lbs of muscle than he does. Look clown, you keep hiding and talking shit, that's fine. I've made an ass out of you before (which is why you calmed down for a while) and I'll do it again. Try me!
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exactly..this fucking midget actually think people here believe him.. namat heres a tip; instead of lying about it, just dont talk about it, better image equal to more contracts so you can afford your precious hgh!!
now post spread pussy pics of your wife
Yeah at 195 I'm huuuuugeeee! That means a lots of insulina! Haha! You're so stupid! :D
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Yeah at 195 I'm huuuuugeeee! That means a lots of insulina! Haha! You're so stupid! :D
You use slin and you know it, this is the Thnderdome dont lie or end up on the list scumbags like Liar Priest and Jroids ::)
You have a solid foundation and you only used slin later on,you also cant afford high doses of GH so you dont take huge doses of slin, unlike Philsulin Heath who is all insulin and GH in high doses.
You have one of the best physiques in the IFBB Pro league Steve, dont ruin it chasing size ;)
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No sister, you're the liar and I say that with total confidence. 1. You know a little about drugs but nothing about training. 35 years of heavy training is the reason why I carry more muscle than most pros do when they off. I've pointed this out a million times but since you nothing about human function of the body you can't comprehend. Look at your buddy Mustafa, a great example. He's been off for years, I was off for over 3 years and carried at least 20-25 more lbs of muscle than he does. Look clown, you keep hiding and talking shit, that's fine. I've made an ass out of you before (which is why you calmed down for a while) and I'll do it again. Try me!
huh?? carry what ? you are a flab,,lol carry muscle ,,did you se yourself in the mirror lately? a flab ,,im talking about what you used to be back few years ago,,and before hand...not the flab you are not that is 200lb of shit ,,you look much smaller than 5'10 fellas at 200lb what you talking about,,years of training means nothing! nothing! if they meant anythign mishkp woiuld be a monster,,and so would be mustaf...have you seen the murderer lately? i suggest you take a look ,,even fellas who train with no problems in life,,they dont keep even fraction of what they were if no drugs in system ,,you get old body quits on you you doofus,,years of training balonie,,this is the thunderdome get out of here with this balonie you twister of truth,,
the ass and the joke here is YOU,,you do a poll here who believe your claims and your eyes will turn black,,see the one with the problems is you ,,in your head you make ass out of individuals who tell you the truth....in reailty you are nothign NOTHIG BUT DRUG ADDICT,,THATS WHAT YOUR MARIRAGES WERE RUINED,,THATS WHY YOUR LIFE WERE RUINED AND YOU TURNED TO JESUS..AND ALL OF THAT DIDNT HELP YOU TO GET TO WHERE YOU WANTED WHICH IS WHERE I AM
PRO IFBB CARD,,
this is the end of argument here,,you blub and blub ,,twist reaility ,,while i feed it to them piece by piece breaking your generation shit hold on those poor kidos,,and this generation holding is gone now,,your most miserable luck is that a fella like disgusted that could back you up some ...even he doesnt care to because he know the truth ....yes he is bud bud with you but in reaility ...you and him and myself know what it takes,,and it is alot more than the twists of reality you sell here inorder to get a customer,,this is really realy bad what you do here,,same for noel ,,it is 50 year old + acting in the manner of a child ,,and really its example of the fellas who survives the drug abuse and didnt have major comlications yet you see what we stuck with...twisters of truth,, you are what eric from would have become if he survived to your age...
TWISTER OF REALITY
this shall be known as your name on getbig from this day on,,
twister!
i will also refer to you as twister,,
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just end it coach... lol
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You use slin and you know it, this is the Thnderdome dont lie or end up on the list scumbags like Liar Priest and Jroids ::)
You have a solid foundation and you only used slin later on,you also cant afford high doses of GH so you dont take huge doses of slin, unlike Philsulin Heath who is all insulin and GH in high doses.
You have one of the best physiques in the IFBB Pro league Steve, dont ruin it chasing size ;)
actualy 5'7 190-195 is bordering,,some of them do not use much slin ,,some dont use at all ,,but they are very rare,,
5'6 200lb is FAR FARRRRR from 5'7 195,,if same bf it can mean last place and first place in a competition ,,infact in many times it can mean diff weight clases
5'7 195 is realy bordering..most of them do use insulina just not at mega dosing,,
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You use slin and you know it, this is the Thnderdome dont lie or end up on the list scumbags like Liar Priest and Jroids ::)
You have a solid foundation and you only used slin later on,you also cant afford high doses of GH so you dont take huge doses of slin, unlike Philsulin Heath who is all insulin and GH in high doses.
You have one of the best physiques in the IFBB Pro league Steve, dont ruin it chasing size ;)
Yes, used it with Milos in 2007... Didn't like it at all. Yea I was full and round like never before and after.
About your last sentence...maybe I shouldn't ruin my LIFE chasing a bodybuilding dream... :-\
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You use slin and you know it, this is the Thnderdome dont lie or end up on the list scumbags like Liar Priest and Jroids ::)
You have a solid foundation and you only used slin later on,you also cant afford high doses of GH so you dont take huge doses of slin, unlike Philsulin Heath who is all insulin and GH in high doses.
You have one of the best physiques in the IFBB Pro league Steve, dont ruin it chasing size ;)
x2!
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actualy 5'7 190-195 is bordering,,some of them do not use much slin ,,some dont use at all ,,but they are very rare,,
5'6 200lb is FAR FARRRRR from 5'7 195,,if same bf it can mean last place and first place in a competition ,,infact in many times it can mean diff weight clases
5'7 195 is realy bordering..most of them do use insulina just not at mega dosing,,
gh15 approved
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But actually many of your posts are true. Soooo many crazy and dumb people in this sport. Just talked with a local NPC competitor a few weeks ago...bad physique, bad attitude...never gonna make anything in this sport... He said, now he's off...so only using Primo, Anavar and GH... I was like WTF?!
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Interesting that full ROM upright rows play no role in this ???
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I believe Steve. He's really not progressed in size or conditioning in the recent past. He needs more GH and insulin but seems fed up with the whole thing.
Steve, would you drink this? Hungarian Gulash Water. ;D
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Yes, used it with Milos in 2007... Didn't like it at all. Yea I was full and round like never before and after.
Steve, what didnt u like about it? couldnt u say no to milos?
what was the dosage he had u do?
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Steve, what didnt u like about it? couldnt u say no to milos?
what was the dosage he had u do?
20iu before each of the 2 daily weight training sessions. Maybe a third 20iu shot in between if flat and lean enough. :D
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Steve, what didnt u like about it? couldnt u say no to milos?
what was the dosage he had u do?
great that you say that.... :o :o :o :o :o
Seems like the usual pattern is:
1. Small aestethic bodybuilder from (bodybuilding-wise) 3rd world country needs more mass, calls Milos
2. Trains with Milos for three months, gains 2343535.5353536% more muscle on insulin protocols.
3. Said BB starts to get a gut, look like an oil drum, fights with Milos
4. They break up and never talk again.
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i can understand test produce sort of a physique so tren ! and Slin, GH ..etc
but isn't it all Hormones and they all use them ? is Phil suppose to look like Jay ? or Kai looks like Vic !
come on guys give them a break its after all bodybuilding and everyone of them believes he can accomplish something using this or that.
and ive seen enough of horribly physiques and hormone abuse the past years, and to be honest non placed high n major shows/Olympia, and the top 15 or so always looked ok at least that what i saw, i just liked one person physique than another.
but i could be wrong since my hormone knowledge is zilch !
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Yes, used it with Milos in 2007... Didn't like it at all. Yea I was full and round like never before and after.
About your last sentence...maybe I shouldn't ruin my LIFE chasing a bodybuilding dream... :-\
Post some pics before, during and after that time (2007). Shed the truth on this thread.
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5iu's needs something like 50grams of glucose. The insulin will clear what's in your blood first, and then scavenge for the rest while it is active.
Your body stores glucose in muscles, liver and brain.
5iu's isn't going to do shit, assuming the person is healthy.
Stop trying to scare people when you have no clue what you are talking about.
you're the one who dont know what the fuck you talking about. take it 5iu and eat nothing see whats gonna happen fucking retard, you know the coma is near when you see the white light and feeling like you weight 5lbs.
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Yeah at 195 I'm huuuuugeeee! That means a lots of insulina! Haha! You're so stupid! :D
never said you used a shitload of it but yes you use it like anyone of us, bitch. we can even see the marks on your abs, gimme a break
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huh?? carry what ? you are a flab,,lol carry muscle ,,did you se yourself in the mirror lately? a flab ,,im talking about what you used to be back few years ago,,and before hand...not the flab you are not that is 200lb of shit ,,you look much smaller than 5'10 fellas at 200lb what you talking about,,years of training means nothing! nothing! if they meant anythign mishkp woiuld be a monster,,and so would be mustaf...have you seen the murderer lately? i suggest you take a look ,,even fellas who train with no problems in life,,they dont keep even fraction of what they were if no drugs in system ,,you get old body quits on you you doofus,,years of training balonie,,this is the thunderdome get out of here with this balonie you twister of truth,,
the ass and the joke here is YOU,,you do a poll here who believe your claims and your eyes will turn black,,see the one with the problems is you ,,in your head you make ass out of individuals who tell you the truth....in reailty you are nothign NOTHIG BUT DRUG ADDICT,,THATS WHAT YOUR MARIRAGES WERE RUINED,,THATS WHY YOUR LIFE WERE RUINED AND YOU TURNED TO JESUS..AND ALL OF THAT DIDNT HELP YOU TO GET TO WHERE YOU WANTED WHICH IS WHERE I AM
PRO IFBB CARD,,
this is the end of argument here,,you blub and blub ,,twist reaility ,,while i feed it to them piece by piece breaking your generation shit hold on those poor kidos,,and this generation holding is gone now,,your most miserable luck is that a fella like disgusted that could back you up some ...even he doesnt care to because he know the truth ....yes he is bud bud with you but in reaility ...you and him and myself know what it takes,,and it is alot more than the twists of reality you sell here inorder to get a customer,,this is really realy bad what you do here,,same for noel ,,it is 50 year old + acting in the manner of a child ,,and really its example of the fellas who survives the drug abuse and didnt have major comlications yet you see what we stuck with...twisters of truth,, you are what eric from would have become if he survived to your age...
TWISTER OF REALITY
this shall be known as your name on getbig from this day on,,
twister!
i will also refer to you as twister,,
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First you said I wouldn't be any bigger than 160lbs if I was off, I was off completely for over 3 years and smallest I got was down to 205. Now that I'm on you're saying the opposite. You're stories are falling apart like Weiner's weiner...you weiner.
P.S. No one in their right mind would want to kill themselves for a "pro card"...hahaha what a joke. You fail. Amazing how you come so sincere in Alex's videos but behind a keyboard you're a back stabber. Grow a nut so you can at least have one!
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I believe coach didnt used insulin, maybe tried it one time but thats it. he was never huge or had that fullblown look to the muscle
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I believe coach didnt used insulin, maybe tried it one time but thats it. he was never huge or had that fullblown look to the muscle
Never even tried because I know potentially it could screw you're system but good. If 'GH15" was as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be able to tell from my pictures. But being who he thinks he's, he's not that perceptive.
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great that you say that.... :o :o :o :o :o
Seems like the usual pattern is:
1. Small aestethic bodybuilder from (bodybuilding-wise) 3rd world country needs more mass, calls Milos
2. Trains with Milos for three months, gains 2343535.5353536% more muscle on insulin protocols.
3. Said BB starts to get a gut, look like an oil drum, fights with Milos
4. They break up and never talk again.
Wizardry of truth... What coach said in previous postings = twister of lies.
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Wizardry of truth... What coach said in previous postings = twister of lies.
You're saying I'm lying or he's lying?
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Post some pics before, during and after that time (2007). Shed the truth on this thread.
2006 (2 days after a show)
2007 (precontest with Milos)
2010 (1 week after the Tampa Pro)
I'll try to find better comparisons...
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2006 (2 days after a show)
2007 (precontest with Milos)
2010 (1 week after the Tampa Pro)
I'll try to find better comparisons...
good noticeable progress especially thickness and density of the arms and chest.
but then again 4 years has gone by, so those changes should be noticeable. what i see is a guy who uses training and diet as much as the drugs to build his body. a guy with discipline.
dude, you have a great physique. in the top 1% of the world imo.
can i ask you why you still choose to compete knowing this is a game for the mass monsters, not the guys who have good flow? its a shame, but your either 30-40 years too late, or several years too early, depending on which way comp bb goes.
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today im going to talk about what create a true mass monster,,
in bodybuild there is size and then there is blown out of propition size,,whee everythign is huge,,you seen it starting in the mid 90s and at full force during the year of the mexicana dragon 2000,, that year drug intake was at al time availability to everyone and everyone was on everything they could get and everything was very very easy to get! ,,
now the mass monsters are diff than the regular bodybuild circa 1980s 1990s,, the mass monsters are blown up from within by insulina and gh ,,
this is the key componenets in taking them to the size talked about,,this size ofcourse is only true to offseason because many of them do not maintain it and need to lose alot of weight and size to stage level due to the way the fat is being held inside the muscle insted of between muscle and skin,,
quit fucking with these kids already...
the fellas i am talkin about called mass monsters ,,you see them around in the gyms,, they are 270 5'9 8% ,,they are 300lb 5'11 8% they are 5'5 240lb 8%,,they are very easy to detect but not due to quality but more of due to size,,the diameter is large ,,of EVERYTHING,,if you take close look at them and look into the gut area you wil seee that this is the true thing that grow in them ,,the rest is blown from within but the only thing that truely grow on them is the gut!,,the reason many dont pay attention is because the other bodyparts blow up too,,and due to specific anabolics and androgenics and the way the muscle push the skin from the inside,,,the veina are pronounced and the muscle give illusion of being in more condition than it truly is ,, those fellas look impressive until you put them next to true bodybuild that place high in high level competitions,,
now,, what bring those fella up to be mass monsters,,is hgh and insulina in doses you can nto even start dreaming off,, im talking here about 100 ius of insulina a day ,, i am talking here about 20-30 iu of gh a day ,,and they can take it and especialy in 2000 they could take it and then they had everything legit so they could show a better qualitative look eventhouhg it was illusion it was of a more quality than today since now day its harder to get legit products,,
so it is important to understand that the ingrediants to a mass monster DO NOT GO THROUGH ANABOLICS AND ANDROGENIC PER SAY ,,THEY GO THROUGH LOTS OF GH AND INSULINA INADDITION TO LOTS OF TESTOSTERONA and very high levels of anabolic such as npp eq and trenbolona,, but ! the main ingredients that with out them you will not see mass monster are INSULINA AND HGH ,,WITH OUT INSULINA YOU WILL NOT GET THERE,,THE REASON THERE IS 270LB 5'9 AND YOU SIT 5'9 AT 210 LB IS MAINLY INSULINA AND GH ,,HIGHER DOSES OF GH THAN YOU TAKE MUCH HIGHER ,,AND LOTS OF INSULINA THAT YOU DO NOT TAKE,,
SO ONCE AGAIN 5'9 260LB 8% IS A FELLA THAT IS SATURATED WITH INSULINA ,,ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ,, IF YOU TAKE OUT HIS INSULINA AND LEAV HIM WITH GH AND AAS ONLY HE WILL BE 220-230 LB 8% IN THE BETTER CASE AND IF VERY EXPERIENCED AND MANY YEARS OF USAGE BEHIND HIM AND CONSISTANT USAGE OF GH AND AAS,,
BUT! INORDER TO GET TO BE MASS MONSTER AND MASS MONSTER ARE THE 6'1 304 LB OR 6'1 296LB ....9% INORDER TO BE THEM ,,,THE DOSES OF INSULINA ARE VERY HIGH ,,AND TH EDOSES OF HGH ARE COUNTED BY THE VIALS NOT BY THE IUS!
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2006 (2 days after a show)
2007 (precontest with Milos)
2010 (1 week after the Tampa Pro)
I'll try to find better comparisons...
Gotta be honest, Milos had you on point. How far out was that 2007 pic? Much rounder and thicker. So why the dislike for slin?
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Steve, don't listen to bullshit. You have kicked ass my man, respect. I can't imagine doing slin and some of that shit. And phil heath does look cool, but at what cost
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Gotta be honest, Milos had you on point. How far out was that 2007 pic? Much rounder and thicker. So why the dislike for slin?
Milos is a good friend of mine, he helped me a lot. Super nice guy! And he knows everything about bodybuilding.
Why the dislike for slin...or the whole bodybuilding...?
1. I wanna stay healthy.
2. I wanna be a real athlete and/or an entertainer.
3. I wanna make money.
So of course I could be much better since 2007...but REALLY I have take 15-40 IU of slin a day with all that sugar and spend thousands on 10 other drugs...and then I could be a better bodybuilder??? WFT?
It was my passion since I was 12-15...but honestly it's fucked up. I'm really disappointed and don't know what to do.
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You're saying I'm lying or he's lying?
The Coach = Liar Coach. Sorry, bro. :D
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great that you say that.... :o :o :o :o :o
Seems like the usual pattern is:
1. Small aestethic bodybuilder from (bodybuilding-wise) 3rd world country needs more mass, calls Milos
2. Trains with Milos for three months, gains 2343535.5353536% more muscle on insulin protocols.
3. Said BB starts to get a gut, look like an oil drum, fights with Milos
4. They break up and never talk again.
lol
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I believe coach didnt used insulin, maybe tried it one time but thats it. he was never huge or had that fullblown look to the muscle
thats beause he was and is lazy bodybuild,,that mean did not push as much food as needed with the insulina and gh ,,henever did high doses insulina ,,he just did hgh and insulina at enough doses to get to 190-200 of balonie on stage at 5'6 ,,many lik ethat around,,true he didnt do 60-10 iu a day to be 240lb 6-8% 5'6 but he sure did enough to walk around 200-210lb at 5'6 with abs: )
he lies!
the reason he dont like insulina is because he didnt respond well to it,,and yes insulina is nto a good drug when it comes to what happen to lines and gut but he hates it because he tried it in cycles and FAILED
AND THATS! THE TRUTH
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I'm a lier? Ok, you're accusing me of it...then prove. Either not education or have a good enough eye for what someone looks like when on insulin or just backing gh15 because you drank his kool aid. A person would have to be half retarded to take that shit. Give me one good reason why would? I'm almost 49 haven't competed in almost 4 years and almost 20 before that. I little if any respect for todays bodybuilders and the industry itself. But personally I don't think you or gh15 know any better.
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To Ron, I think I would make a great interview. You'd get the old school side of it with zero ass kissing up to the industry. This site has unleashed some of the biggest clowns this industry.
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Milos is a good friend of mine, he helped me a lot. Super nice guy! And he knows everything about bodybuilding.
Why the dislike for slin...or the whole bodybuilding...?
1. I wanna stay healthy.
2. I wanna be a real athlete and/or an entertainer.
3. I wanna make money.
So of course I could be much better since 2007...but REALLY I have take 15-40 IU of slin a day with all that sugar and spend thousands on 10 other drugs...and then I could be a better bodybuilder??? WFT?
It was my passion since I was 12-15...but honestly it's fucked up. I'm really disappointed and don't know what to do.
look ,,few recomendations ,,i have seen your question in pm backn in the day i just didnt want to put it here becausde of problems some may give you ,,but since its in open i will give you my advice,,
1. mishko is a friend of no one ,,but ok you are international i am international,,we are clolser to him.... lol btu still no friends,,buddy is better ,,i also though we were friends but its immposibel to be friend with him
2. you see the sanches fella? rodigexz whatever the fuck his name is ,,the brother raymond brother of tito,,look at him ,,fella with nto good genetic ,,average at best ,,and he climb the ranks by the usage of mega doses of drugs,,he practicaly look like death ,,does he even come remotely to top 202 class,,NO! the drugs got him there,,in your case you most likley can win 202 o ,,i really mean that,,the problem is you need money ,,you need a sponsor ,,and if not sponsor you need to follow the brother raymond way,,your genetic potential with his drug regemin = winner of 202 o ,,he will always be a bad version of rich gaspari wanna be,,he is just uses enough drugs to get conditioned size ...with you you can get by with less but still you have to up it and go full force,, there is no half ways in bodybuild,,
you should never give up or quit this,,because you competing ifbb top pro ,,and yes this is top pro not someone who try to get pro card for many years and cant,,even they shouldnt quit,,you dont quit bodybuild because you will later regret it ,,bodybuild is 2 step backwords on every step forword ..remember that,,all the muscle memory they talk about means balonie ,,if you dont keep it ON DRIVE you go back ,,and the older you get the harder it is to come back
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GH15, shut your fucking cock hole. I've already proven you're an uninformed joke. Call me lier.....prove it!
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twister,,
you are a TWISTER OF THE TRUTH!,,
it is an art,,you are an almost 60 year old playing in the sand box of your childhood,, grow up twister
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I'm a lier? Ok, you're accusing me of it...then prove. Either not education or have a good enough eye for what someone looks like when on insulin or just backing gh15 because you drank his kool aid. A person would have to be half retarded to take that shit. Give me one good reason why would? I'm almost 49 haven't competed in almost 4 years and almost 20 before that. I little if any respect for todays bodybuilders and the industry itself. But personally I don't think you or gh15 know any better.
Remember that 535 pound world record raw bench? Fucking cun t.
You lie. Just give it up, we all know it.
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you know,,the sad thing is you have this fellas in every gym across americana ,,
you know them too!! they never know your name per say ,,you always see them on friday in the local club drunk with their bro or with whoever bud,, they useddd to be 260 with abs lol at 5'8 ... they used to place 10th in nationals well they say 8 the reailty they were placing 8 in thei class and over all were maybe 14 lol ,,they now with liver problems and or kidny problems ,,and shadow of former self ...so they go 210 and then go on HORMONES AGAIN! EVENTOUGH SICK ...they cant give it up and put themself in it again since addicted! and are walking 234 lb in the local gym in your local no wherre to be found town ...with gut and 9% while their liver and kidny slowly dieing a final death!
you all know them ,,YOU ALL KNOW THEM ,,and they like to talk about how good they used to be ,,and the local gym rats say to up and coming bodybuild that these fella was the best of the best and he is number one and you can only dream of looking like him when you already passed him 10 times and remained with your health intact..
this is what gh15 is there for! to wake you up,,to wake those fellas up ,,now those fellas never read getbig or any other boarding ,,they are used to their doors being busted and selling x in clubs,,,they dont read nothing ,,like twister here they competed 207 lb ...5;8 not 5'6 lol and were walking offseason 260 8% lol,,like twister here they were all married and divorced 3 times...lol they were all also with problems with le in some times in theri lives ,,
fellas,,im the real deal ,,you cant sell me balonie,,thats why im worshipped and feared ,,thats why my name is looked upon with respect on any steroid board where its mentioned,,because i say the truth! behind the scences they all come to me and bless mother mary for giving me to them ,,
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how much testosterona bro?
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;D busted
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If this Weiner guy was a movie, it would most likely be Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
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I'm a lier? Ok, you're accusing me of it...then prove. Either not education or have a good enough eye for what someone looks like when on insulin or just backing gh15 because you drank his kool aid. A person would have to be half retarded to take that shit. Give me one good reason why would? I'm almost 49 haven't competed in almost 4 years and almost 20 before that. I little if any respect for todays bodybuilders and the industry itself. But personally I don't think you or gh15 know any better.
Is what gh15 says insane? Yes.
Is bodybuilding insane? Yes.
Is gh15 lying? No.
Is gh15 telling the truth. Yes.
Some people just don't care for the truth. gh15 is the wizard of truth. If some people can't stomach the truth then that's too bad. He shouldn't be censored because the lot of you are comprised of pussies, liars or people just too uncomfortable to face the truth. For the curious and appreciative like myself it's a pleasure having gh15 post here.
Not that anyone would start kicking and screaming or anything, but if gh15 was banned then I'd peace out as well. This board is nothing without him. Ron understands this and has been a gracious host. This is Getbig.com, the thunderdome of bodybuilding boardings. If it turns into anything else then it's just like every other piece of shit boarding. Getbig is hostile and chaotic, and I wouldn't want to see it any other way.
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Again "monster triceps" had credible witnesses, you fail again tool. Don't hate because you haven't benched your bodyweight yet. Now....prove me a lier.
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bird chest
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Milos is a good friend of mine, he helped me a lot. Super nice guy! And he knows everything about bodybuilding.
Why the dislike for slin...or the whole bodybuilding...?
1. I wanna stay healthy.
2. I wanna be a real athlete and/or an entertainer.
3. I wanna make money.
So of course I could be much better since 2007...but REALLY I have take 15-40 IU of slin a day with all that sugar and spend thousands on 10 other drugs...and then I could be a better bodybuilder??? WFT?
It was my passion since I was 12-15...but honestly it's fucked up. I'm really disappointed and don't know what to do.
Mad props for this post, i wish more BB were this open.
You're totally spot on, what i think is more BB should just refuse to play this game. It will not give you rewards doing this, you will place last, but you MIGHT make a difference if you speak up and get heared.
You cannot be the only pro feeling like this, and on the message boards you read so many people that prefer the old school look over the mass monsters.
Maybe it can change bodybuilding to the better if there were more people like you, telling it how it is.
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WHAT WAS THE REAS0N F0R THEIR SICKNESS?
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WHAT WAS THE REAS0N F0R THEIR SICKNESS?
assbruise ::)
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2006 (2 days after a show)
2007 (precontest with Milos)
2010 (1 week after the Tampa Pro)
I'll try to find better comparisons...
We can say this or that about MILOS but you looked the best at this pic of 2007 working with him!!!can you put more pics of that prep so we can compare them??look at the difference,you are full and in the same condition as previous pics!so is the reason you are not that full now that you don`t use insulin anymore or you don`t have the money to use other stuff that you used back then in 2007??and if you say "i wanna be healthy" why other mass monsters like jay,ronnie etc use insulin all year round and stay healthy i do`t understand!?
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Is what gh15 says insane? Yes.
Is bodybuilding insane? Yes.
Is gh15 lying? No.
Is gh15 telling the truth. Yes.
Some people just don't care for the truth. gh15 is the wizard of truth. If some people can't stomach the truth then that's too bad. He shouldn't be censored because the lot of you are comprised of pussies, liars or people just too uncomfortable to face the truth. For the curious and appreciative like myself it's a pleasure having gh15 post here.
Not that anyone would start kicking and screaming or anything, but if gh15 was banned then I'd peace out as well. This board is nothing without him. Ron understands this and has been a gracious host. This is Getbig.com, the thunderdome of bodybuilding boardings. If it turns into anything else then it's just like every other piece of shit boarding. Getbig is hostile and chaotic, and I wouldn't want to see it any other way.
MAN! POST OF THE CENTURY RIGHT THERE! COULDN'T AGREE MORE!
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How do you know he's telling the truth? He lied about me and others.
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and if you say "i wanna be healthy" why other mass monsters like jay,ronnie etc use insulin all year round and stay healthy i do`t understand!?
me neither
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MAN! POST OF THE CENTURY RIGHT THERE! COULDN'T AGREE MORE!
and you know what the sad part is ,,the same convicts who i kill their livlihood by saying the truth....those same one sit on other boardings talking about gh15 all day long,,,absolit stalking and really they have gh15 in the brain sit there and make a mess,, now as i said before they want gh15 murdered,,im not joking,,the problem they dont understand is ,,this all cult is built on me ,,
take for exampel nordic...if nordic cut supply to fellas....what do they stay with? they stay with fuckin NOTHING,, half of the npc and ifbb wil be looking right and left and say but but but buttttttttttttttttt where is my HGH waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :'(
when you sit in a cult that is built mainly on the chemical ability to get thick and lean at the same time,,you are a direct dependent of the gods in that cult,, and you better not piss the gods in that cult,,
and no there is no replacement,,no rips and no beeps and no sheeps ,,the only replacement sit in pharacty ! and yes you can get a script for hrt 200 mg a week ,, but bodybuild you wont be out of it ,,
felals in the cult forget who is the heart and who is the brain ,,they think the leg and the arm can operate by themselves,,
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We can say this or that about MILOS but you looked the best at this pic of 2007 working with him!!!can you put more pics of that prep so we can compare them??look at the difference,you are full and in the same condition as previous pics!so is the reason you are not that full now that you don`t use insulin anymore or you don`t have the money to use other stuff that you used back then in 2007??and if you say "i wanna be healthy" why other mass monsters like jay,ronnie etc use insulin all year round and stay healthy i do`t understand!?
thats bullshit. he does look improved from 06 to 07, but he looks about the same now, except his lower body seems to be a thicker.
slin is garbage. it causes muscle bloat-water and glycogen retention. not muscle gain.
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That's the least of problems with insulin.
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thats bullshit. he does look improved from 06 to 07, but he looks about the same now, except his lower body seems to be a thicker.
slin is garbage. it causes muscle bloat-water and glycogen retention. not muscle gain.
that is correct,,sadly its not followe by anyone ,,they all use it and all use it heavily,,HEAVILY
they all walk around 250lb + mid singles...at 5'8 this is only becaue of insulina and gh ,,INSULINA more than gh,,the gh is there high doses but the insulina and the nutrients pushing into the muscle is what creates this beer gut monstreous disaster on stage where evrything is big yet the gut just take a prime place in the over all look
insulina shoudl be banned ,,problem is how do you do it? its not possible,,the naturals send pee of their friends to be tested,,they lie to poligraphs,,etc etc,, they have hiding agents,,they know timing,,
there has to be blood tests every single week ,,there has to be hair test,, and i really dont thin kany test is invinsible,,
in reailty we are stuck with insulina,,look at kukelo the kid...look at tropopina ,,those kids ABUSE THE FUCK OUT OF INSULINA,,do you think kukelo would ever see the number 230lb ? with out insulina?? he is 260 lb lol and lean ! do you think that fella would evber see 240 250 lb mid singles with out insulina? not a danm chance
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look what insulina did to danta the liar,,,take a fuckin look at danta the liar and see what insulina and high doses testosterona did to him,,, and he doesnt look like bodybuild ,,but look at the damage insulina did to him with the mega dose testosterona,,YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO USE IT AND YES WE USE HIGHER DOSES AND MEGA DOSING BUT WE ARE LEANNNNNNNNNNNNNN TO BEGIN WITH ,,WE START LEAN ,,WE FIRST GET LEANNNNN ,,THEN NO WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING
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We can say this or that about MILOS but you looked the best at this pic of 2007 working with him!!!can you put more pics of that prep so we can compare them??look at the difference,you are full and in the same condition as previous pics!so is the reason you are not that full now that you don`t use insulin anymore or you don`t have the money to use other stuff that you used back then in 2007??and if you say "i wanna be healthy" why other mass monsters like jay,ronnie etc use insulin all year round and stay healthy i do`t understand!?
So being healthy for you means that I lookin at you, smiling and say "I'm doin great bro!" ??? Haha! ;D
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So being healthy for you means that I lookin at you, smiling and say "I'm doin great bro!" ??? Haha! ;D
Yeah, that's pro bodybuilding's mantra, if you stand in front of the mirror and tell yourself you are healthy long enough, you will be. ::) ::) ::)
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Milos is a good friend of mine, he helped me a lot. Super nice guy! And he knows everything about bodybuilding.
Why the dislike for slin...or the whole bodybuilding...?
1. I wanna stay healthy.
2. I wanna be a real athlete and/or an entertainer.
3. I wanna make money.
So of course I could be much better since 2007...but REALLY I have take 15-40 IU of slin a day with all that sugar and spend thousands on 10 other drugs...and then I could be a better bodybuilder??? WFT?
It was my passion since I was 12-15...but honestly it's fucked up. I'm really disappointed and don't know what to do.
I don't think that pro bodybuilding is allow this, or any other professional sport, but the fitness industry may fulfill your wishes and you know that :)
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Is what gh15 says insane? Yes.
Is bodybuilding insane? Yes.
Is gh15 lying? No.
Is gh15 telling the truth. Yes.
Some people just don't care for the truth. gh15 is the wizard of truth. If some people can't stomach the truth then that's too bad. He shouldn't be censored because the lot of you are comprised of pussies, liars or people just too uncomfortable to face the truth. For the curious and appreciative like myself it's a pleasure having gh15 post here.
Not that anyone would start kicking and screaming or anything, but if gh15 was banned then I'd peace out as well. This board is nothing without him. Ron understands this and has been a gracious host. This is Getbig.com, the thunderdome of bodybuilding boardings. If it turns into anything else then it's just like every other piece of shit boarding. Getbig is hostile and chaotic, and I wouldn't want to see it any other way.
Not only that but he brings mad traffic to the site which =$ ...I'm just glad the truth ISN"T censored here and there is a place to find the truth at. That post of gh's about how u have to live breathe bb'ing 24/7 to be a top natural is so true it's almost sad, i say almost because I discovered this place and woke the fuk up! I did all those things he mentioned had NO life and couldn't break 187 at like 11-12%, and it was annoying seeing others in the gym pass me up with not nearly as much dedication. But you know what it's all good, i'm not bitter at all. In fact, i'm grateful for all the people on this board who will stand up and tell it like it is because if it's one thing I hate it's being lied to. Happpened to me since I was 15 starting lifting and that's cool but I've reached a natural threshold now and like I said couldn't be happier that I found a place like GetBIG ! 8)
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And what about myself...? ??? I'm 5'7" 195 onstage...and I have very small joints, bones...fella with average or big bones could be easily weight even more...
I can think of another bodybuilder who's shorter than you, weighs more than 200lbs and uses no insulin. They're out there.
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Not only that but he brings mad traffic to the site which =$ ...I'm just glad the truth ISN"T censored here and there is a place to find the truth at. That post of gh's about how u have to live breathe bb'ing 24/7 to be a top natural is so true it's almost sad, i say almost because I discovered this place and woke the fuk up! I did all those things he mentioned had NO life and couldn't break 187 at like 11-12%, and it was annoying seeing others in the gym pass me up with not nearly as much dedication. But you know what it's all good, i'm not bitter at all. In fact, i'm grateful for all the people on this board who will stand up and tell it like it is because if it's one thing I hate it's being lied to. Happpened to me since I was 15 starting lifting and that's cool but I've reached a natural threshold now and like I said couldn't be happier that I found a place like GetBIG ! 8)
man i have almost the exact same story. ten years of non-stop weight training with excellent diet. could never pass 180lbs at 5'11" height. magazines and supplement stores lied to me and it took me ten years to figure out every single supplement representative or dude in musclemag is on hormones. i wish i would have found getbig 10--11 years ago!
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im going to talk abotu stories such as yours soon ,,maybe even in a litle bit in s posting,, i will again explain in detail and correct misguided souls ,,
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man i have almost the exact same story. ten years of non-stop weight training with excellent diet. could never pass 180lbs at 5'11" height. magazines and supplement stores lied to me and it took me ten years to figure out every single supplement representative or dude in musclemag is on hormones. i wish i would have found getbig 10--11 years ago!
Same here.
The only good thing is that with 10 years of natural lifting and having gone through every diet and shit on earth, you will blow up like hell on steroids.
If you start lifting and do steroids right away, IMO all the mistakes that you make and stuff will only lead to injuries sooner or later, if you are not aiming to be a professional BB having your head cooled down a bit aftre 10 years of training and being also mentally more stable than some 18 year old on trenbolone is much better.
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Same here.
The only good thing is that with 10 years of natural lifting and having gone through every diet and shit on earth, you will blow up like hell on steroids.
If you start lifting and do steroids right away, IMO all the mistakes that you make and stuff will only lead to injuries sooner or later, if you are not aiming to be a professional BB having your head cooled down a bit aftre 10 years of training and being also mentally more stable than some 18 year old on trenbolone is much better.
100% agreed
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ya i took that shit..
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man i have almost the exact same story. ten years of non-stop weight training with excellent diet. could never pass 180lbs at 5'11" height. magazines and supplement stores lied to me and it took me ten years to figure out every single supplement representative or dude in musclemag is on hormones. i wish i would have found getbig 10--11 years ago!
I hope you are talking about 5'11" @ 180 at stage condition...
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im going to talk abotu stories such as yours soon ,,maybe even in a litle bit in s posting
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where else will u talk about this topic if only a little bit will be in posts?
i want to read...or listen.
i think u have got the message out there on what real life dosages are in bodybuilding and now i think it needs to be taught what a natural truley is so that these liars think twice before opeing thier mouth. they use this excuse about "been training for 20 years, what do u expect? of course i have this much muscle!" and try to make us out for fools.
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... if you are not aiming to be a professional BB having your head cooled down a bit aftre 10 years of training and being also mentally more stable than some 18 year old on trenbolone is much better.
well i was 13 when i started weight training. so hopefully it's not too late to go pro. yes this is my dream.
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I hope you are talking about 5'11" @ 180 at stage condition...
i could achieve stage condition without clen/t3/ephedrine? idk here's a pic i took dec 30 2007 you guess the bf. seven year natural here: (http://joplinwastepaper.com/DSCF0138%20NE%20Midsection.png)
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i could achieve stage condition without clen/t3/ephedrine? idk here's a pic i took dec 30 2007 you guess the bf. seven year natural here: (http://joplinwastepaper.com/DSCF0138%20NE%20Midsection.png)
LOL
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Same here.
The only good thing is that with 10 years of natural lifting and having gone through every diet and shit on earth, you will blow up like hell on steroids.
If you start lifting and do steroids right away, IMO all the mistakes that you make and stuff will only lead to injuries sooner or later, if you are not aiming to be a professional BB having your head cooled down a bit aftre 10 years of training and being also mentally more stable than some 18 year old on trenbolone is much better.
NATURALS MAX 0UT AFTER 2-3 YEARS N0T 10 YEARS.
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NATURALS MAX 0UT AFTER 2-3 YEARS N0T 10 YEARS.
im serious here assbruise, u need to invest a little into a new fukn keyboard or get that letter "O" fixed.
ur poverty is sikening me.
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NATURALS MAX 0UT AFTER 2-3 YEARS N0T 10 YEARS.
true, if you start early and do it seriously.
I realized that far too late though.
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i could achieve stage condition without clen/t3/ephedrine? idk here's a pic i took dec 30 2007 you guess the bf. seven year natural here:
And you couldn't pass 5'11" @180 not stage condition
you obviously did something wrong...
well i hope at least you will have good response to drugs...
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Those crossed-eyes made me think I was looking at Peter Putnam for a second. What's up with that?
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im serious here assbruise, u need to invest a little into a new fukn keyboard or get that letter "O" fixed.
ur poverty is sikening me.
lol ,,i was laughin so fuckin hard to this lol ,,some of you fellas are crazy funny
gh15 approved
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You owe me a new keyboard mother.fucker. I just spit my coffee all over it! (I hope this one keeps working so I don't end up like Assbruise.)
You look like dogshit & have absolutely no reason to be proud of your ladylike 'physique'. There are bums in NYC who have never even seen a weight in their lives, and yet they still look leaner and more muscular than you.
Hell, you look worse than Vince Goodrum.
Hope this helps. PM me and I'll send you my paypal information.
ahaahhhaahhaaha, OMG.
Another keyboard ruined here.
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PS--You should abort your dream of going pro immediately. It's never, ever going to happen... Chasing that dream is only going to leave you a broken man, mopping the floor at Taco Bell for $6.50 per hour...
This fellas,,, this is how legit cook works,,,
;D
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i look like "dogshit" huh? ::) what i looked like was a natty.
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So being healthy for you means that I lookin at you, smiling and say "I'm doin great bro!" ??? Haha! ;D
No no!i asked many times on MD how can some guys like ronnie jay etc being on insulin,gh etc... for more then 20 years or so,and have not some serious health problems!of course they are not gonna tell to the world JAY CUTLER "hey am having kidney transplant" but they are doing fine for being on drugs 20+years,and not basic gear but gear that make you mass monster!so can you tell me now when you work with GEORGE FARAH - what different things is he doing for his athlets to bring them in good condition??now when you work with him you know are the stuff they are saying about him using DNP for his athlets true or not!2 things i ask you (and GH15 can reply also) BRANCH WARREN before working with him dieted on 50grams of carbs and 500grams of protein and doing 1-2 hours cardio a day,not that he didn`t came in condition every time but when started working with FARAH he did the oposite,icrease the carbs to 500grams and did only 20minutes of cardio a day and came in never seen condition 2009 OLYMPIA!and KAI GREENE worked with OSCAR ARDON so called 1000grams of protein a day,little or no carbs,3 hours cardio a day=poor condition,flat etc...started with FARAH-ate carbs with every meal,and protein were 8 ounces per meal,lets say he ate 8 meals a day that`s 400grams of protein and only 20 minutes of cardio!can you explain me this if you know?
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Remember that 535 pound world record raw bench? Fucking cun t.
You lie. Just give it up, we all know it.
Truth
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No no!i asked many times on MD how can some guys like ronnie jay etc being on insulin,gh etc... for more then 20 years or so,and have not some serious health problems!of course they are not gonna tell to the world JAY CUTLER "hey am having kidney transplant" but they are doing fine for being on drugs 20+years,and not basic gear but gear that make you mass monster!so can you tell me now when you work with GEORGE FARAH - what different things is he doing for his athlets to bring them in good condition??now when you work with him you know are the stuff they are saying about him using DNP for his athlets true or not!2 things i ask you (and GH15 can reply also) BRANCH WARREN before working with him dieted on 50grams of carbs and 500grams of protein and doing 1-2 hours cardio a day,not that he didn`t came in condition every time but when started working with FARAH he did the oposite,icrease the carbs to 500grams and did only 20minutes of cardio a day and came in never seen condition 2009 OLYMPIA!and KAI GREENE worked with OSCAR ARDON so called 1000grams of protein a day,little or no carbs,3 hours cardio a day=poor condition,flat etc...started with FARAH-ate carbs with every meal,and protein were 8 ounces per meal,lets say he ate 8 meals a day that`s 400grams of protein and only 20 minutes of cardio!can you explain me this if you know?
george just leanred from the banana ,,orville,, orville did everything george is doing nwo to fellas,, orville preped this way before george did anything ,,george was smart enough to learn .... remember orville? he woudl haev been mr o if he did fuck himself up,, he neevr did the stupid zero card shit ,,we prep on carbs ,,carbs are important friends !!
gh15 approved
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george just leanred from the banana ,,orville,, orville did everything george is doing nwo to fellas,, orville preped this way before george did anything ,,george was smart enough to learn .... remember orville? he woudl haev been mr o if he did fuck himself up,, he neevr did the stupid zero card shit ,,we prep on carbs ,,carbs are important friends !!
gh15 approved
I could never guess that,
orville really really looked like walking death, his muscles were big, but just didn't look that good, skin looked really bad and every time he spoke i thought he's going to fall a sleep, actually i would say that this is how walking keto look like ,
but i guess im wrong :)
So what the deal with both allow high carbs, but at the price of using DNP?
can you talk more about their pre-contest protocols?
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No no!i asked many times on MD how can some guys like ronnie jay etc being on insulin,gh etc... for more then 20 years or so,and have not some serious health problems!of course they are not gonna tell to the world JAY CUTLER "hey am having kidney transplant" but they are doing fine for being on drugs 20+years,and not basic gear but gear that make you mass monster!so can you tell me now when you work with GEORGE FARAH - what different things is he doing for his athlets to bring them in good condition??now when you work with him you know are the stuff they are saying about him using DNP for his athlets true or not!2 things i ask you (and GH15 can reply also) BRANCH WARREN before working with him dieted on 50grams of carbs and 500grams of protein and doing 1-2 hours cardio a day,not that he didn`t came in condition every time but when started working with FARAH he did the oposite,icrease the carbs to 500grams and did only 20minutes of cardio a day and came in never seen condition 2009 OLYMPIA!and KAI GREENE worked with OSCAR ARDON so called 1000grams of protein a day,little or no carbs,3 hours cardio a day=poor condition,flat etc...started with FARAH-ate carbs with every meal,and protein were 8 ounces per meal,lets say he ate 8 meals a day that`s 400grams of protein and only 20 minutes of cardio!can you explain me this if you know?
HE L0WERED THEIR PR0TEIN INTAKE AND BALANCED 0UT THE CAL0RIES. KAI GREENE L0WERED HIS PR0TEIN INTAKE IN HALF AND D0UBLED HIS CARBS. 1000 PR0TEIN T0 400 PR0TEIN. 600 GRAMS 0F PR0TEIN IS 2400 CAL0RIES. FARAH THEN INCREASED HIS CARBS AND KAI WAS STILL TAKING IN LESS CAL0RIES. THE B0DY CAN'T ABS0RB 1000 GRAMS 0F PR0TEIN S0 KAI WAS FEELING M0RE ENERGETIC DUE T0 M0RE ENERGY FR0M THE CARBS AND HE WAS GETTING JUST EN0UGH PR0TEIN.
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HE L0WERED THEIR PR0TEIN INTAKE AND BALANCED 0UT THE CAL0RIES. KAI GREENE L0WERED HIS PR0TEIN INTAKE IN HALF AND D0UBLED HIS CARBS. 1000 PR0TEIN T0 400 PR0TEIN. 600 GRAMS 0F PR0TEIN IS 2400 CAL0RIES. FARAH THEN INCREASED HIS CARBS AND KAI WAS STILL TAKING IN LESS CAL0RIES. THE B0DY CAN'T ABS0RB 1000 GRAMS 0F PR0TEIN S0 KAI WAS FEELING M0RE ENERGETIC DUE T0 M0RE ENERGY FR0M THE CARBS AND HE WAS GETTING JUST EN0UGH PR0TEIN.
Wow bro you just saved me 3500$!!!!
what's your address? i will send you 15$ for a new keyboard!!!!
oh boy...
it's more delusional than believing supplement company's
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Wow bro you just saved me 3500$!!!!
what's your address? i will send you 15$ for a new keyboard!!!!
oh boy...
it's more delusional than believing supplement company's
I WAS REFFERING T0 THE GIFT'S P0ST. I NEVER SAID IT WAS TRUE. I WAS G0ING 0FF HIS P0ST. THE REDUCTI0N 0F CAL0RIES DID PLAY A R0LE TH0UGH.
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george just leanred from the banana ,,orville,, orville did everything george is doing nwo to fellas,, orville preped this way before george did anything ,,george was smart enough to learn .... remember orville? he woudl haev been mr o if he did fuck himself up,, he neevr did the stupid zero card shit ,,we prep on carbs ,,carbs are important friends !!
gh15 approved
can you give a little diet advice?
A bit detail please, not only that "sushi and burgers and ice cream", i got that some dirty food is important.
What would a typical week look like for you?
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can you give a little diet advice?
A bit detail please, not only that "sushi and burgers and ice cream", i got that some dirty food is important.
What would a typical week look like for you?
BUMP
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Bump
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can you give a little diet advice?
A bit detail please, not only that "sushi and burgers and ice cream", i got that some dirty food is important.
What would a typical week look like for you?
Yes, me too.
God always speaks with riddles, same thing all over again and in general. we eat this we eat that. trenblonona testosterona hghona.
I want to hear his diet recommendations too..