Author Topic: What creates a true mass monster in bodybuilding? (Read 26307 times)

dustin · « **Reply #50 on:** June 06, 2011, 12:35:23 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on June 06, 2011, 11:18:04 AM

You're saying I'm lying or he's lying?

The Coach = Liar Coach. Sorry, bro.

gh15 · « **Reply #51 on:** June 06, 2011, 12:45:12 PM »

Quote from: DK II on June 06, 2011, 08:25:06 AM

great that you say that....

Seems like the usual pattern is:

1. Small aestethic bodybuilder from (bodybuilding-wise) 3rd world country needs more mass, calls Milos
2. Trains with Milos for three months, gains 2343535.5353536% more muscle on insulin protocols.
3. Said BB starts to get a gut, look like an oil drum, fights with Milos
4. They break up and never talk again.

lol

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gh15 · « **Reply #52 on:** June 06, 2011, 12:53:07 PM »

Quote from: lesaucer on June 06, 2011, 10:00:22 AM

I believe coach didnt used insulin, maybe tried it one time but thats it. he was never huge or had that fullblown look to the muscle

thats beause he was and is lazy bodybuild,,that mean did not push as much food as needed with the insulina and gh ,,henever did high doses insulina ,,he just did hgh and insulina at enough doses to get to 190-200 of balonie on stage at 5'6 ,,many lik ethat around,,true he didnt do 60-10 iu a day to be 240lb 6-8% 5'6 but he sure did enough to walk around 200-210lb at 5'6 with abs: )

he lies!

the reason he dont like insulina is because he didnt respond well to it,,and yes insulina is nto a good drug when it comes to what happen to lines and gut but he hates it because he tried it in cycles and FAILED

AND THATS! THE TRUTH

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Coach is Back! · « **Reply #53 on:** June 06, 2011, 01:00:39 PM »

I'm a lier? Ok, you're accusing me of it...then prove. Either not education or have a good enough eye for what someone looks like when on insulin or just backing gh15 because you drank his kool aid. A person would have to be half retarded to take that shit. Give me one good reason why would? I'm almost 49 haven't competed in almost 4 years and almost 20 before that. I little if any respect for todays bodybuilders and the industry itself. But personally I don't think you or gh15 know any better.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #54 on:** June 06, 2011, 01:04:02 PM »

To Ron, I think I would make a great interview. You'd get the old school side of it with zero ass kissing up to the industry. This site has unleashed some of the biggest clowns this industry.

gh15 · « **Reply #55 on:** June 06, 2011, 01:04:11 PM »

Quote from: Steve Namat on June 06, 2011, 12:34:22 PM

Milos is a good friend of mine, he helped me a lot. Super nice guy! And he knows everything about bodybuilding.

Why the dislike for slin...or the whole bodybuilding...?

1. I wanna stay healthy.

2. I wanna be a real athlete and/or an entertainer.

3. I wanna make money.

So of course I could be much better since 2007...but REALLY I have take 15-40 IU of slin a day with all that sugar and spend thousands on 10 other drugs...and then I could be a better bodybuilder??? WFT?

It was my passion since I was 12-15...but honestly it's fucked up. I'm really disappointed and don't know what to do.

look ,,few recomendations ,,i have seen your question in pm backn in the day i just didnt want to put it here becausde of problems some may give you ,,but since its in open i will give you my advice,,

1. mishko is a friend of no one ,,but ok you are international i am international,,we are clolser to him.... lol btu still no friends,,buddy is better ,,i also though we were friends but its immposibel to be friend with him

2. you see the sanches fella? rodigexz whatever the fuck his name is ,,the brother raymond brother of tito,,look at him ,,fella with nto good genetic ,,average at best ,,and he climb the ranks by the usage of mega doses of drugs,,he practicaly look like death ,,does he even come remotely to top 202 class,,NO! the drugs got him there,,in your case you most likley can win 202 o ,,i really mean that,,the problem is you need money ,,you need a sponsor ,,and if not sponsor you need to follow the brother raymond way,,your genetic potential with his drug regemin = winner of 202 o ,,he will always be a bad version of rich gaspari wanna be,,he is just uses enough drugs to get conditioned size ...with you you can get by with less but still you have to up it and go full force,, there is no half ways in bodybuild,,

you should never give up or quit this,,because you competing ifbb top pro ,,and yes this is top pro not someone who try to get pro card for many years and cant,,even they shouldnt quit,,you dont quit bodybuild because you will later regret it ,,bodybuild is 2 step backwords on every step forword ..remember that,,all the muscle memory they talk about means balonie ,,if you dont keep it ON DRIVE you go back ,,and the older you get the harder it is to come back

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Coach is Back! · « **Reply #56 on:** June 06, 2011, 01:06:04 PM »

GH15, shut your fucking cock hole. I've already proven you're an uninformed joke. Call me lier.....prove it!

gh15 · « **Reply #57 on:** June 06, 2011, 01:12:29 PM »

twister,,

you are a TWISTER OF THE TRUTH!,,

it is an art,,you are an almost 60 year old playing in the sand box of your childhood,, grow up twister

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MONSTER_TRICEPS · « **Reply #58 on:** June 06, 2011, 01:30:45 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on June 06, 2011, 01:00:39 PM

I'm a lier? Ok, you're accusing me of it...then prove. Either not education or have a good enough eye for what someone looks like when on insulin or just backing gh15 because you drank his kool aid. A person would have to be half retarded to take that shit. Give me one good reason why would? I'm almost 49 haven't competed in almost 4 years and almost 20 before that. I little if any respect for todays bodybuilders and the industry itself. But personally I don't think you or gh15 know any better.

Remember that 535 pound world record raw bench? Fucking cun t.

You lie. Just give it up, we all know it.

gh15 · « **Reply #59 on:** June 06, 2011, 01:49:15 PM »

you know,,the sad thing is you have this fellas in every gym across americana ,,

you know them too!! they never know your name per say ,,you always see them on friday in the local club drunk with their bro or with whoever bud,, they useddd to be 260 with abs lol at 5'8 ... they used to place 10th in nationals well they say 8 the reailty they were placing 8 in thei class and over all were maybe 14 lol ,,they now with liver problems and or kidny problems ,,and shadow of former self ...so they go 210 and then go on HORMONES AGAIN! EVENTOUGH SICK ...they cant give it up and put themself in it again since addicted! and are walking 234 lb in the local gym in your local no wherre to be found town ...with gut and 9% while their liver and kidny slowly dieing a final death!

you all know them ,,YOU ALL KNOW THEM ,,and they like to talk about how good they used to be ,,and the local gym rats say to up and coming bodybuild that these fella was the best of the best and he is number one and you can only dream of looking like him when you already passed him 10 times and remained with your health intact..

this is what gh15 is there for! to wake you up,,to wake those fellas up ,,now those fellas never read getbig or any other boarding ,,they are used to their doors being busted and selling x in clubs,,,they dont read nothing ,,like twister here they competed 207 lb ...5;8 not 5'6 lol and were walking offseason 260 8% lol,,like twister here they were all married and divorced 3 times...lol they were all also with problems with le in some times in theri lives ,,

fellas,,im the real deal ,,you cant sell me balonie,,thats why im worshipped and feared ,,thats why my name is looked upon with respect on any steroid board where its mentioned,,because i say the truth! behind the scences they all come to me and bless mother mary for giving me to them ,,

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EZ$ · « **Reply #60 on:** June 06, 2011, 02:11:17 PM »

how much testosterona bro?

tommywishbone · « **Reply #61 on:** June 06, 2011, 02:13:19 PM »

busted

Rambone · « **Reply #62 on:** June 06, 2011, 02:23:44 PM »

If this Weiner guy was a movie, it would most likely be Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest

dustin · « **Reply #63 on:** June 06, 2011, 02:57:44 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on June 06, 2011, 01:00:39 PM

I'm a lier? Ok, you're accusing me of it...then prove. Either not education or have a good enough eye for what someone looks like when on insulin or just backing gh15 because you drank his kool aid. A person would have to be half retarded to take that shit. Give me one good reason why would? I'm almost 49 haven't competed in almost 4 years and almost 20 before that. I little if any respect for todays bodybuilders and the industry itself. But personally I don't think you or gh15 know any better.

Is what gh15 says insane? Yes.

Is bodybuilding insane? Yes.

Is gh15 lying? No.

Is gh15 telling the truth. Yes.

Some people just don't care for the truth. gh15 is the wizard of truth. If some people can't stomach the truth then that's too bad. He shouldn't be censored because the lot of you are comprised of pussies, liars or people just too uncomfortable to face the truth. For the curious and appreciative like myself it's a pleasure having gh15 post here.

Not that anyone would start kicking and screaming or anything, but if gh15 was banned then I'd peace out as well. This board is nothing without him. Ron understands this and has been a gracious host. This is Getbig.com, the thunderdome of bodybuilding boardings. If it turns into anything else then it's just like every other piece of shit boarding. Getbig is hostile and chaotic, and I wouldn't want to see it any other way.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #64 on:** June 06, 2011, 02:57:48 PM »

Again "monster triceps" had credible witnesses, you fail again tool. Don't hate because you haven't benched your bodyweight yet. Now....prove me a lier.

JimmyJam1974 · « **Reply #65 on:** June 06, 2011, 03:41:41 PM »

bird chest

DK II · « **Reply #66 on:** June 06, 2011, 05:27:25 PM »

Quote from: Steve Namat on June 06, 2011, 12:34:22 PM

Milos is a good friend of mine, he helped me a lot. Super nice guy! And he knows everything about bodybuilding.

Why the dislike for slin...or the whole bodybuilding...?

1. I wanna stay healthy.

2. I wanna be a real athlete and/or an entertainer.

3. I wanna make money.

So of course I could be much better since 2007...but REALLY I have take 15-40 IU of slin a day with all that sugar and spend thousands on 10 other drugs...and then I could be a better bodybuilder??? WFT?

It was my passion since I was 12-15...but honestly it's fucked up. I'm really disappointed and don't know what to do.

Mad props for this post, i wish more BB were this open.

You're totally spot on, what i think is more BB should just refuse to play this game. It will not give you rewards doing this, you will place last, but you MIGHT make a difference if you speak up and get heared.

You cannot be the only pro feeling like this, and on the message boards you read so many people that prefer the old school look over the mass monsters.

Maybe it can change bodybuilding to the better if there were more people like you, telling it how it is.

asbrus · « **Reply #67 on:** June 06, 2011, 06:12:24 PM »

WHAT WAS THE REAS0N F0R THEIR SICKNESS?

DK II · « **Reply #68 on:** June 06, 2011, 08:28:24 PM »

Quote from: asbrus on June 06, 2011, 06:12:24 PM

WHAT WAS THE REAS0N F0R THEIR SICKNESS?

assbruise

TheGift... · « **Reply #69 on:** June 06, 2011, 09:59:34 PM »

Quote from: Steve Namat on June 06, 2011, 11:49:34 AM

2006 (2 days after a show)

2007 (precontest with Milos)

2010 (1 week after the Tampa Pro)

I'll try to find better comparisons...

We can say this or that about MILOS but you looked the best at this pic of 2007 working with him!!!can you put more pics of that prep so we can compare them??look at the difference,you are full and in the same condition as previous pics!so is the reason you are not that full now that you don`t use insulin anymore or you don`t have the money to use other stuff that you used back then in 2007??and if you say "i wanna be healthy" why other mass monsters like jay,ronnie etc use insulin all year round and stay healthy i do`t understand!?

abijahmaniaco · « **Reply #70 on:** June 06, 2011, 10:17:58 PM »

Quote from: dustin on June 06, 2011, 02:57:44 PM

Is what gh15 says insane? Yes.

Is bodybuilding insane? Yes.

Is gh15 lying? No.

Is gh15 telling the truth. Yes.

Some people just don't care for the truth. gh15 is the wizard of truth. If some people can't stomach the truth then that's too bad. He shouldn't be censored because the lot of you are comprised of pussies, liars or people just too uncomfortable to face the truth. For the curious and appreciative like myself it's a pleasure having gh15 post here.

Not that anyone would start kicking and screaming or anything, but if gh15 was banned then I'd peace out as well. This board is nothing without him. Ron understands this and has been a gracious host. This is Getbig.com, the thunderdome of bodybuilding boardings. If it turns into anything else then it's just like every other piece of shit boarding. Getbig is hostile and chaotic, and I wouldn't want to see it any other way.

MAN! POST OF THE CENTURY RIGHT THERE! COULDN'T AGREE MORE!

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #71 on:** June 06, 2011, 10:21:41 PM »

How do you know he's telling the truth? He lied about me and others.

abijahmaniaco · « **Reply #72 on:** June 06, 2011, 10:22:30 PM »

Quote from: TheGift... on June 06, 2011, 09:59:34 PM

and if you say "i wanna be healthy" why other mass monsters like jay,ronnie etc use insulin all year round and stay healthy i do`t understand!?

me neither

gh15 · « **Reply #73 on:** June 06, 2011, 10:24:53 PM »

Quote from: abijahmaniaco on June 06, 2011, 10:17:58 PM

MAN! POST OF THE CENTURY RIGHT THERE! COULDN'T AGREE MORE!

and you know what the sad part is ,,the same convicts who i kill their livlihood by saying the truth....those same one sit on other boardings talking about gh15 all day long,,,absolit stalking and really they have gh15 in the brain sit there and make a mess,, now as i said before they want gh15 murdered,,im not joking,,the problem they dont understand is ,,this all cult is built on me ,,

take for exampel nordic...if nordic cut supply to fellas....what do they stay with? they stay with fuckin NOTHING,, half of the npc and ifbb wil be looking right and left and say but but but buttttttttttttttttt where is my HGH waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

when you sit in a cult that is built mainly on the chemical ability to get thick and lean at the same time,,you are a direct dependent of the gods in that cult,, and you better not piss the gods in that cult,,

and no there is no replacement,,no rips and no beeps and no sheeps ,,the only replacement sit in pharacty ! and yes you can get a script for hrt 200 mg a week ,, but bodybuild you wont be out of it ,,

felals in the cult forget who is the heart and who is the brain ,,they think the leg and the arm can operate by themselves,,

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tbombz · « **Reply #74 on:** June 06, 2011, 10:28:48 PM »

Quote from: TheGift... on June 06, 2011, 09:59:34 PM

We can say this or that about MILOS but you looked the best at this pic of 2007 working with him!!!can you put more pics of that prep so we can compare them??look at the difference,you are full and in the same condition as previous pics!so is the reason you are not that full now that you don`t use insulin anymore or you don`t have the money to use other stuff that you used back then in 2007??and if you say "i wanna be healthy" why other mass monsters like jay,ronnie etc use insulin all year round and stay healthy i do`t understand!?

thats bullshit. he does look improved from 06 to 07, but he looks about the same now, except his lower body seems to be a thicker.

slin is garbage. it causes muscle bloat-water and glycogen retention. not muscle gain.