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What is the protocol for thick mass and monstrous strength? Not for a physique contest but for a POWERLIFTING meet? What do those guys eat and what do they take? (The Coach and Fuller hush up)
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P.S. Do whites have a genetic advantage over blacks in POWERLIFTING? Seems like all the legends of the sport are caucasian.
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P.S. Do whites have a genetic advantage over blacks in POWERLIFTING? Seems like all the legends of the sport are caucasian.
Damn, the "G" in GH15 must stand for Geneticist
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there are a lot of legends that arent white,john gamble,dave shaw,lamar gant,dan austin,antony clarke,steve goggins etc.
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/Markhenry.jpg/200px-Markhenry.jpg)
World's strongest man
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That has to be the ugliest human being on earth. Castrate that fucking thing before it spreads ugly to drunken ho's like herpes.
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Why are you asking him? We I've been power lifting almost as long as I've been training. I'm also training a competitor that compteted on the MetRx WSM circuit. But I'll wait gh15's answer...should be good. lol.
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What is the protocol for thick mass and monstrous strength? Not for a physique contest but for a POWERLIFTING meet? What do those guys eat and what do they take? (The Coach and Fuller hush up)
the protocoll for being a sucesful powerlifter goes through the kitchen and ofcourse lots of drugs,, lots of food is there!,,bodyfat doesnt matter persay ,,preferably in the 10-15% but can be higher,,
most sucesful powerlifter are strong to begin with even when natural ,,they have very strong tendoins and bones,,they wil put on the hammer shoulders 4 plates each side when completey natural and do 10-20 times no problem,,they will have 4 plates each side of the hammer an dpull down 10-20 times no problem ...as natural
when it come to drug intake,,
anapolona ,,halotestin ,,trenbolona and testosterona NO EASTER aka suspension either in oil or water... are PRIME PRIME PRIME DRUGS for powerlifters,,they always load on them pre competitions since the drugs get you very strong VERY FAST!,, turinabol is nto used as much anymore due to much better drugs ,,
the main key with powerlifters is you want a quick power burst,,and you learn how to do it very fast and very effective,,the drugs i mentioned do just that ,,
when you take the combination of testosterona no easter and halotestin ....within 1 hour of intake you can walk through walls,,striaght out ,,if you are experienced bodybuild/powerlift you can go through wall and break records in that same session you do that day ,, within few days you really increase strength to a significant level ,,and in times to very impressive levels,,EXAMPLE: you did 2 plates each side of hammer delts.. after few dyas on tne and halotestin IF LEGIT ,,you will have 4 plates most likley 5 plates each side of that same hammer for the exact same number of reps you did with 2 each side...
the combinations of tne halotestin anapolona and trenbolona ace...creates what we call now day the new BODYBUILD POWERLIFTER,,THOSE ARE THE ONES WHO LOOK LIKE BODYBUILDER BUT HAVE THE POWER OF A POWERLIFTER,,THEY ARE BOTH IN ONE PERSON ,,THEY USUALY DO THE STRONGEST MAN IN THE WORLD COMPETITIONS AND YOU CAN SEE THEM THERE DOING GREAT LIFTS,, MARIUS IS ONE BUT THERE ARE MANY,,
ofcourse like everything with bodybuild,,also with powerlift everything is dose dependent and has to be legit,,
gh15 approved
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lol
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i do hope you already understand that gh is always there,,legit gh is there with EVERY SINGLE ATHLETES WHO COMPETES IN STRENGTH EVENTS NOW DAY,,from powerlifting and ofcourse bodybuild which is nto strength persay but it involve strength in lifting weights...
hgh is always there now day ,,thats why everyone is leaner and larger,,1960 powerlifter used to be fatzos 25% ....now day many powerlifters walk around 9-10% and huge enormous lean size,,why? the drugs i mentioned and ofcourse hgh on consistant basis
gh15 approved
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lol
the sad part about you is that you know im 100% right abotu everything i say but you choose for some reason to twist the truth,,if i was only walking around here balnie i would be booted into the black space of the internet hall of shame,,
EVERYTHING I SAY IS WRITTEN IN STONE AND FOLLOWED BY EVERY SINGLE BODYBUILD AND POWERLIFT TO EVER LOOK LIKE ONE!
gh15 approved
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Ok. Lol
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Ok. Lol
I hope you haven't actually been training this whole time! Cuz obv the key to going from 2 plates to 5 per side is apparently a bunch of short ester steroids...I HAVE to try that stack now!!! I hope I can go throw some cars around in the parking lot, but maybe I am asking too much...
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lol
What do you give your clients pre-contest Coach?
Jamaican food and flintstone vitamins?
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Yep, don't train just up the dose. All of scientific training case studies are just a cover up. They should have just listened to gh15.
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Yep, don't train just up the dose. All of scientific training case studies are just a cover up. They should have just listened to gh15.
how many scientific training case studies have been done with elite level strength athletes?
not college kids or beginners, but guys close to world record levels? ;)
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Quit a few. Especially in track and field.
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Need to add in elite olympic lifting as well. Football players are considered strength athletes and studies are done frequently.
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ofcourse you ned to train duh,,where have i ever said you dont need to train ,,you have to train the first thing gh15 always say is how the advice is for SERIOUS BODYBUILD ,,serious lifters,,ofcourse you need to train comon now
gh15 approved
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elite sports doesn't exist without drugs... thats the part that all the studies miss
now you still need talent, expert coaching, drive, practically decades of training and all that good stuff
but without the right drug regime all those fine qualities mean nothing
without drugs promising athletes stay promising, and
never ever reach the top
very sad, but also very true :-\
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Couldn't agree more. But training in sports does take priority over drug use and they have to becareful of drug tests, even they do take it, its minimal, it has to be. My complaint is this year that the reason why the MLB is so bad this year is that there is testing and its making the season really shitty. We need another McGuire/Sosa season.
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the reason why the season is shitty is because it is boring shitty game ,, i still havent met one international fella aside from the japs who like this stupid game ,,playing it ...maybe ,,watchin it is complete disaster,,
gh15 approved
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Couldn't agree more. But training in sports does take priority over drug use and they have to becareful of drug tests, even they do take it, its minimal, it has to be. My complaint is this year that the reason why the MLB is so bad this year is that there is testing and its making the season really shitty. We need another McGuire/Sosa season.
If that's the case, why do true naturals bust their balls for years, TRUE NATURALS, and can only bench 275, squat 315, and sit at 9% bf at the absolute lowest? You know where these young naturals will be after another 10 years of training? Same bf, most likely fatter, squat will be maybe 40lbs heavier and they'll finally hit 3 plates on the bench. Coach, you should be banned for posting nonsense like this, idiot.
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Couldn't agree more. But training in sports does take priority over drug use and they have to becareful of drug tests, even they do take it, its minimal, it has to be. My complaint is this year that the reason why the MLB is so bad this year is that there is testing and its making the season really shitty. We need another McGuire/Sosa season.
Fuck those two drug addict assclowns.
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elite sports doesn't exist without drugs... thats the part that all the studies miss
now you still need talent, expert coaching, drive, practically decades of training and all that good stuff
but without the right drug regime all those fine qualities mean nothing
without drugs promising athletes stay promising, and
never ever reach the top
very sad, but also very true :-\
exactly
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If that's the case, why do true naturals bust their balls for years, TRUE NATURALS, and can only bench 275, squat 315, and sit at 9% bf at the absolute lowest? You know where these young naturals will be after another 10 years of training? Same bf, most likely fatter, squat will be maybe 40lbs heavier and they'll finally hit 3 plates on the bench. Coach, you should be banned for posting nonsense like this, idiot.
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very good very good,,
ill just slide away now quietly,, so my pupils can get the stage ,,
gh15 approved
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athletes and coaches are very creative, especially when it comes to beating testing in
amateur/ olympic sports
now the drugs are minimal compared to bb dosages, which from an athletic point of view
are at insane levels ;D
but they are there and they are not just the finishing touch lol
that's not to say you can start injecting and become a star
no no, lots of "athletes" try that and fail miserably but
there is so much lying in the sports world it really is disgusting
bodybuilding and sports are closer than most ppl think
after all, the Balco 'project world record' team had Milos on as "nutritionist" ;)
and tim montgomery, a talented and accomplished sprinter, needed
insulin, EPO, growth hormone, "The Clear" and adrenaline to win the USA's in 2001
gh15 is more right than wrong ;D
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Fuck those two drug addict assclowns.
hahaha, those assclowns are super talented, highly trained athletes
it just turned out that one of them jumped on heavy doses first
and the much more talented one, couldnt stand to see a lesser talent
pass him by.... so he leveled the playing field even further
and kicked his ass... baseball wise that is
hope that helps ;D
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hahaha, those assclowns are super talented, highly trained athletes
it just turned out that one of them jumped on heavy doses first
and the much more talented one, couldnt stand to see a lesser talent
pass him by.... so he leveled the playing field even further
and kicked his ass... baseball wise that is
hope that helps ;D
I don't follow baseball too much, but I'm sure those guys were GREAT athletes. Only problem is that they were so great, that the heat was thrown at them, therefore they got caught. Granted, everyone in the MLB is on the juice so they were never cheating, it's a level playing field. These guys reached a great synergy of response to hormones and talent.
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oh brother
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the reason why the season is shitty is because it is boring shitty game ,, i still havent met one international fella aside from the japs who like this stupid game ,,playing it ...maybe ,,watchin it is complete disaster,,
gh15 approved
WHAT W0ULD Y0U SAY ARE S0ME STRENGTH LIMITS F0R NATURALS?
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Gh15: the other question: are whites better genetically suited for POWERLIFTING than blacks?
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Gh15: the other question: are whites better genetically suited for POWERLIFTING than blacks?
0BVI0USLY. WHITES ARE STR0NGER IN GENERAL THAN BLACKS. L00K AT WEIGHTLIFTING. H0W MANY BLACK D0 Y0U SEE 0N T0P? P0WERLIFTING IS D0MINATED BY WHITES T00 AND RUSSIA WINS IPF EVERY YEAR WITH HARDLY ANY BLACK GUYS. EASTERN EUR0PEANS ARE THE STR0NGEST PE0PLE 0N EARTH IN TERMS 0F BRUTE STRENGTH.
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Dear god, what was this fella on?
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Let's just wait and see what The Man has to say about this, shall we?
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0BVI0USLY. WHITES ARE STR0NGER IN GENERAL THAN BLACKS. L00K AT WEIGHTLIFTING. H0W MANY BLACK D0 Y0U SEE 0N T0P? P0WERLIFTING IS D0MINATED BY WHITES T00 AND RUSSIA WINS IPF EVERY YEAR WITH HARDLY ANY BLACK GUYS. EASTERN EUR0PEANS ARE THE STR0NGEST PE0PLE 0N EARTH IN TERMS 0F BRUTE STRENGTH.
there are no genetic differences when it comes to strength or speed
look at the chinese,
before china decided they wanted all those pretty gold medals that olympic weightlifting had to offer
who would have guessed that chinese men were some of the strongest and most explosive athletes on the planet?
they dominate the mid to lower weight classes now
and they did it by bringing over bulgarian coaches first, then russians,
who were desperate for work and the best in the world
then copying their methods and pumping their best athletes full of the right drugs
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there are no genetic differences when it comes to strength or speed
look at the chinese,
before china decided they wanted all those pretty gold medals that olympic weightlifting had to offer
who would have guessed that chinese men were some of the strongest and most explosive athletes on the planet?
they dominate the mid to lower weight classes now
and they did it by bringing over bulgarian coaches first, then russians,
who were desperate for work and the best in the world
then copying their methods and pumping their best athletes full of the right drugs
Are you saying the key is to up the dosage?
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lol no
u need the best coaches, the best athletes
and a government that will fund the whole thing
the rest is easy ;D
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there are no genetic differences when it comes to strength or speed
look at the chinese,
before china decided they wanted all those pretty gold medals that olympic weightlifting had to offer
who would have guessed that chinese men were some of the strongest and most explosive athletes on the planet?
they dominate the mid to lower weight classes now
and they did it by bringing over bulgarian coaches first, then russians,
who were desperate for work and the best in the world
then copying their methods and pumping their best athletes full of the right drugs
YES THERE IS. GENETICS IS EVERYTHING. JUST LIKE JAMAICANS AND AFRICANS ARE THE BEST SPRINTERS. IT'S GENETICS. WELL 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING IS M0RE TECHNICAL THAN BRUTE STRENGTH AND THE CHINESE D0MINATE MAINLY THE L0WER WEIGHT CLASSES BECAUSE THEY ARE SMALL IN GENERAL. RUSSIANS,BULGARIANS,EASTERN EUR0PEANS ARE BIGGER AND D0MINATE THE HEAVIER WEIGHT CLASSES. SIMPLY PUT CHINESE ARE SMALL PE0PLE IN GENERAL S0 THEY D0MINATE THE L0WER WEIGHT CLASSES.
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If that's the case, why do true naturals bust their balls for years, TRUE NATURALS, and can only bench 275, squat 315, and sit at 9% bf at the absolute lowest? You know where these young naturals will be after another 10 years of training? Same bf, most likely fatter, squat will be maybe 40lbs heavier and they'll finally hit 3 plates on the bench. Coach, you should be banned for posting nonsense like this, idiot.
Now please tell me what the fuck does this have to do with my post? Who said anything about natural?
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Another thing to consider is that most powerlifters prefer to stay in their weight class. They don't want to be the smallest guy in their weight class, and they don't want to be the biggest, moving on to the next.
As long as they can stay within limits and become stronger, they will win. Winning is $$$$$$$. They don't necessarily want size as much as strength.
Drugs that strengthen are going to be key, not drugs that promote size gains and push them out of their weight class. Tendon and ligament strengthening along with stronger muscles is much different than the objective of a Pro BB'r.
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Another thing to consider is that most powerlifters prefer to stay in their weight class. They don't want to be the smallest guy in their weight class, and they don't want to be the biggest, moving on to the next.
As long as they can stay within limits and become stronger, they will win. Winning is $$$$$$$. They don't necessarily want size as much as strength.
Drugs that strengthen are going to be key, not drugs that promote size gains and push them out of their weight class. Tendon and ligament strengthening along with stronger muscles is much different than the objective of a Pro BB'r.
HUH? SINCE WHEN D0 P0WERLIFTERS MAKE A L0T 0F M0NEY?
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YES THERE IS. GENETICS IS EVERYTHING. JUST LIKE JAMAICANS AND AFRICANS ARE THE BEST SPRINTERS. IT'S GENETICS. WELL 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING IS M0RE TECHNICAL THAN BRUTE STRENGTH AND THE CHINESE D0MINATE MAINLY THE L0WER WEIGHT CLASSES BECAUSE THEY ARE SMALL IN GENERAL. RUSSIANS,BULGARIANS,EASTERN EUR0PEANS ARE BIGGER AND D0MINATE THE HEAVIER WEIGHT CLASSES. SIMPLY PUT CHINESE ARE SMALL PE0PLE IN GENERAL S0 THEY D0MINATE THE L0WER WEIGHT CLASSES.
no, you see that's where you're wrong and where everyone is
completely confused!
elite sprinting is ALLLLLLL TECHNIQUE
nothing to do with genetics, just better coaching and virtually no real out of competition drug testing in Jamaica, for example
now as for weightlifting,
the chinese dominate the the lower weightclasses because they are better, stronger, more explosive
who dominated the lighter classes before the chinese?
the BULGARIANS AND RUSSIANS... until the chinese beat them at their own game
look at the world records
the change in weightlifting has nothing to do with genetics,
and everything to do with the wall coming down in '89
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Another thing to consider is that most powerlifters prefer to stay in their weight class. They don't want to be the smallest guy in their weight class, and they don't want to be the biggest, moving on to the next.
As long as they can stay within limits and become stronger, they will win. Winning is $$$$$$$. They don't necessarily want size as much as strength.
Drugs that strengthen are going to be key, not drugs that promote size gains and push them out of their weight class. Tendon and ligament strengthening along with stronger muscles is much different than the objective of a Pro BB'r.
And as far as weigh limits are concerned, it's best to weigh as much as possible while staying lean. For example when I used to do bp comps I would normally compete in the 165s, but when I had a bigger meet coming up I'd compete in the 148s. At that time I was 167 @ 8-10%, but then I'd lean out to 158 @ sub-6 and make the 48s by losing 10 pounds in less than 24 hours, no diuretics were used for this 10 pound loss by the way.
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no, you see that's where you're wrong and where everyone is
completely confused!
elite sprinting is ALLLLLLL TECHNIQUE
nothing to do with genetics, just better coaching and virtually no real out of competition drug testing in Jamaica, for example
now as for weightlifting,
the chinese dominate the the lower weightclasses because they are better, stronger, more explosive
who dominated the lighter classes before the chinese?
the BULGARIANS AND RUSSIANS... until the chinese beat them at their own game
look at the world records
the change in weightlifting has nothing to do with genetics,
and everything to do with the wall coming down in '89
FIRST 0F ALL THE TESTING IS D0NE BY THE 0LYMPIC C0MMITTE N0T JAMAICA. ALL AFRICANS AND BLACKS ALWAYS GET FIRST. THE W0RLD REC0RDS ARE STILL D0MINATED BY THE RUSSIANS AND WHITES AT THE HEAVIER WEIGHT CLASSES. L0L SPRINTING IS ALL TECHNIQUE AND N0 GENETICS. ARE Y0U FUCKING SERI0US? TECHNIQUE T0 RUN 100 METERS UNDER 10 SEC0NDS. IF Y0U ARE I'M D0NE HERE.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3183119.stm
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FIRST 0F ALL THE TESTING IS D0NE BY THE 0LYMPIC C0MMITTE N0T JAMAICA. ALL AFRICANS AND BLACKS ALWAYS GET FIRST. THE W0RLD REC0RDS ARE STILL D0MINATED BY THE RUSSIANS AND WHITES AT THE HEAVIER WEIGHT CLASSES. L0L SPRINTING IS ALL TECHNIQUE AND N0 GENETICS. ARE Y0U FUCKING SERI0US? TECHNIQUE T0 RUN 100 METERS UNDER 10 SEC0NDS. IF Y0U ARE I'M D0NE HERE.
hahah find someone who's run under 10.7 electronically timed
and ask them...or better yet ask a coach ;) who's developed athletes that have run those sorts of times
drugs, talent, etc. are NOT enough
allllllllllllllll technique,
that's why the general public thinks its genetics
they dont see the years and years of preparation that go into running a good time
easy sport, once you know how its done ;D
as for the testing, LOL do you think the IOC flies in drug testers from Switzerland to test the Jamaicans?
there's so called random out of competition testing in Jamaica but its done by
local representatives of the IOC and they NEVER EVER catch anyone
and remember, Marion Jones PASSED over 150 IOC level tests
while drugged up to the max
poor girl, what they did to her was a fucking crime....
i hope that bastard graham rots in hell
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Dear god, what was this fella on?
a shit ton of dbol
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the reason why the season is shitty is because it is boring shitty game ,, i still havent met one international fella aside from the japs who like this stupid game ,,playing it ...maybe ,,watchin it is complete disaster,,
gh15 approved
hahaha brilliant post
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HUH? SINCE WHEN D0 P0WERLIFTERS MAKE A L0T 0F M0NEY?
I'm sorry. I read and re-read my post. Did I say "a lot" of money?
I trained an International title holder for years. His trips out of the country, meals, flights and motels were paid for. Expenses. I didn't say shit about "a lot" of money. He held down a regular job.
Google him. His name was Frank Beeler. I said "was"... cool?
Damn. Put words in my mouth. Winning is everything to most folks. Even Pro BB's don't make that much when it's all 'said and done' after you subtract expenses, health insurance, the cost of all the dope, food, etc.
Contracts. Geez.
Are you from this planet?
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the question was about powerlifting,right not bodybuilding or olympic lifting or strongman,as far as drugs go,you wuold want to take the drugs that up your strentgh,test,d-bol,anadroletc.not sure how much benefit hgh would be,maybe if you were wanting to jump wt.classes,lot of other drugs bodybuilders use,would be of no use to a powerlifter,the only goal is how much you can squat,benh and deadlift for one rep.nutrition helps some,and the new gear and using it the best way,i am talkin shirts,suits wrapsetc.help more thsan you can imagine.
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the question was about powerlifting,right not bodybuilding or olympic lifting or strongman,as far as drugs go,you wuold want to take the drugs that up your strentgh,test,d-bol,anadroletc.not sure how much benefit hgh would be,maybe if you were wanting to jump wt.classes,lot of other drugs bodybuilders use,would be of no use to a powerlifter,the only goal is how much you can squat,benh and deadlift for one rep.nutrition helps some,and the new gear and using it the best way,i am talkin shirts,suits wrapsetc.help more thsan you can imagine.
But....
you are a "Yates" fan... ???
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Dear god, what was this fella on?
That there is Doug Young. One TOUGH mutha !! That physique screams STRONG ! And strong he was. ;)
Couldn't tell ya what he was on though. Rumor was QUITE A BIT !!! I'm not jokin either !
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That there is Doug Young. One TOUGH mutha !! That physique screams STRONG ! And strong he was. ;)
Couldn't tell ya what he was on though. Rumor was QUITE A BIT !!! I'm not jokin either !
True dat! He fucked up his rib during the squat at this meet, but still finished out the bench and pull. Pure badass 8)
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the question was about powerlifting,right not bodybuilding or olympic lifting or strongman,as far as drugs go,you wuold want to take the drugs that up your strentgh,test,d-bol,anadroletc.not sure how much benefit hgh would be,maybe if you were wanting to jump wt.classes,lot of other drugs bodybuilders use,would be of no use to a powerlifter,the only goal is how much you can squat,benh and deadlift for one rep.nutrition helps some,and the new gear and using it the best way,i am talkin shirts,suits wrapsetc.help more thsan you can imagine.
i'm sure gh would help with recovery and injury prevention, at the very least
the stuff about tne and halo pre-workout is interesting, might look into that in the future
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Dear god, what was this fella on?
That mofo is monstrous!
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Doug Young was a beast, Roger Estep too, and John Gamble, etc.....
As far as current cycles go, most mid to mid- upper level guys tend to be 1-1.5 grams test a week, 50mg Dianabol or Anadrol(or both) a day seems to be the average cycle, some add in Tren. Anadrol, Dianabol upped substantialy or Halo is added in as a meet approaches. Some add Cheque Drops, usually on 3rd attempts , but the timing mush be right.
When they mention cruising, it's typically at 500-750 a week of Testosterone.
Two fellas that I know are in the scene pretty heavily recently threw these cycles out-
"Practically Drug-Free
500mg of testosterone cypionate
400mg of Equipoise
Warming Up
750mg of testosterone cypionate
400mg of Deca
50 mg of Dianabol (ED, 4 weeks prior to competition)
Total Loss of Innocence
1000mg of testosterone cypionate
50mg of trenbolone ED
600mg of Equipoise
The Arnold Classic Cycle
1800 mg of testosterone cypionate
75mg of trenbolone ED
600 mg of Equipoise
100mg of Anadrol50 (ED, 4 weeks prior to competition)
50mg of Dianabol (ED, 4 weeks prior to competition)
100 mg of testosterone suspension (ED, 1 week prior to competition)
Halotestin 20mg (ED, 1 week prior to competition) "
That first one was a truthful joke based on what he'd seen over the years.
This next one was an actual cycle was mention on a private Powerlifting Board-
"Anyway just to back up what I have been saying, I read this morning that this guys training partner is going to try and break a raw WR. This is his planned cycle.
2100 mg a week of test
900 mg week of tren
150mg anadrol ED "
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That mofo is monstrous!
And what makes it all even more impressive is that he kept a slim and narrow waistline. His neck is almost as wide as his waist was lol
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And what makes it all even more impressive is that he kept a slim and narrow waistline. His neck is almost as wide as his waist was lol
Definitely wouldnt want to have a mercy fight with him. Thats what a physique is supposed to look like, straight up powerhouse.
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If that's the case, why do true naturals bust their balls for years, TRUE NATURALS, and can only bench 275, squat 315, and sit at 9% bf at the absolute lowest? You know where these young naturals will be after another 10 years of training? Same bf, most likely fatter, squat will be maybe 40lbs heavier and they'll finally hit 3 plates on the bench. Coach, you should be banned for posting nonsense like this, idiot.
Wow those are some shitty lifts, i hope you could lift a bit better natty.
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Wow those are some shitty lifts, i hope you could lift a bit better natty.
L0L M0ST PR0S HAVE TR0UBLE D0ING 10 REPS 0N THE BENCH WITH 315.
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no, you see that's where you're wrong and where everyone is
completely confused!
elite sprinting is ALLLLLLL TECHNIQUE
nothing to do with genetics, just better coaching and virtually no real out of competition drug testing in Jamaica, for example
now as for weightlifting,
the chinese dominate the the lower weightclasses because they are better, stronger, more explosive
who dominated the lighter classes before the chinese?
the BULGARIANS AND RUSSIANS... until the chinese beat them at their own game
look at the world records
the change in weightlifting has nothing to do with genetics,
and everything to do with the wall coming down in '89
99 out of the 100 guys to run sub ten are black. There are exceptions to everything but that's how it is for he most part.
Chinese have a huge population and a very advanced drugs regime, simple as.
Sprinting is technical at the elite end just like any sport.
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the protocoll for being a sucesful powerlifter goes through the kitchen and ofcourse lots of drugs,, lots of food is there!,,bodyfat doesnt matter persay ,,preferably in the 10-15% but can be higher,,
most sucesful powerlifter are strong to begin with even when natural ,,they have very strong tendoins and bones,,they wil put on the hammer shoulders 4 plates each side when completey natural and do 10-20 times no problem,,they will have 4 plates each side of the hammer an dpull down 10-20 times no problem ...as natural
when it come to drug intake,,
anapolona ,,halotestin ,,trenbolona and testosterona NO EASTER aka suspension either in oil or water... are PRIME PRIME PRIME DRUGS for powerlifters,,they always load on them pre competitions since the drugs get you very strong VERY FAST!,, turinabol is nto used as much anymore due to much better drugs ,,
the main key with powerlifters is you want a quick power burst,,and you learn how to do it very fast and very effective,,the drugs i mentioned do just that ,,
when you take the combination of testosterona no easter and halotestin ....within 1 hour of intake you can walk through walls,,striaght out ,,if you are experienced bodybuild/powerlift you can go through wall and break records in that same session you do that day ,, within few days you really increase strength to a significant level ,,and in times to very impressive levels,,EXAMPLE: you did 2 plates each side of hammer delts.. after few dyas on tne and halotestin IF LEGIT ,,you will have 4 plates most likley 5 plates each side of that same hammer for the exact same number of reps you did with 2 each side...
the combinations of tne halotestin anapolona and trenbolona ace...creates what we call now day the new BODYBUILD POWERLIFTER,,THOSE ARE THE ONES WHO LOOK LIKE BODYBUILDER BUT HAVE THE POWER OF A POWERLIFTER,,THEY ARE BOTH IN ONE PERSON ,,THEY USUALY DO THE STRONGEST MAN IN THE WORLD COMPETITIONS AND YOU CAN SEE THEM THERE DOING GREAT LIFTS,, MARIUS IS ONE BUT THERE ARE MANY,,
ofcourse like everything with bodybuild,,also with powerlift everything is dose dependent and has to be legit,,
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So fucking true.. suspension and halo and I think you could take on a swat team and have a good chance of winning, ridiculous power, throw in a couple of anadrol's and it's over!
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So fucking true.. suspension and halo and I think you could take on a swat team and have a good chance of winning, ridiculous power, throw in a couple of anadrol's and it's over!
AFTER A C0UPLE DAYS UP 2 PLATES? IS THAT SERI0US 0R AN EXAGERRATI0N?
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Jaime, fitforlife has his head up his if he thinks that's all a true natural can do. The dude is obviously clueless and doesn't know the first thing about strength training....real strength training.
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The Arnold Classic Cycle
1800 mg of testosterone cypionate
75mg of trenbolone ED
600 mg of Equipoise
100mg of Anadrol50 (ED, 4 weeks prior to competition)
50mg of Dianabol (ED, 4 weeks prior to competition)
100 mg of testosterone suspension (ED, 1 week prior to competition)
Halotestin 20mg (ED, 1 week prior to competition) "
Let me get this straight ... ummm .... uhhhh ... 100 mg of Anadrol coupled with 50 mg of D-Bol EVERYDAY for 4 weeks straight !!???? Jesus christ ! Can human beings function without livers ?? LOL !!
Btw, guys, ultimate powerlifting physique ( since a pic was thrown up ) goes to Kaz. Kaz was an absolute beast !!! So many people forget that he wasn't JUST a strongman competitor. He's not my fav. pl'er though. That title would go to John Kuc. ;)
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Yeah, I've seen a decent amount bump it that high. Powerlifters are still very conservative with their drug use, and the guys that go that high a few and far between, but the stacks seem to get heavier every few years.
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AFTER A C0UPLE DAYS UP 2 PLATES? IS THAT SERI0US 0R AN EXAGERRATI0N?
oh with suspension or tne ...and with halo ,,taken together....you will improve tremendesly in strength ...you will get in the gym and push weights unheard of before to you ,,2 plates each side is nothing,,you may very well after few days do the 200lb dumbell 2 arm behind the neck workin triceps and do 6 reps of it ,,again the major lift will be in your strongest parts,,, aka ...if you were weak lifter in specific exercise due to whatever reason you will improve but the major lifts wil happen with your strong lifts...
shoulder hammer if shoulders are your strongest bodypart,,,you will improve tremendesly into 100lb extra in matter of couple days and ofcourse 2 plates each side extra will come very fast too
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And that's how serious injuries happen. Its a false sense of strength.
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And that's how serious injuries happen. Its a false sense of strength.
they ask strength!
i give them ....strength ,,
fals not false whatever ,,its strength ,,more weight on the machine ,,lifted ,, its feeling of invinsibility that if nto careful can end up with injurty
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1. Training on a machine only make you better on that machine
2. If your going to explain sudden strength then explain the down side of it. You have naïve people on here that take your"advice" without thinking beyond your "advise"
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oh with suspension or tne ...and with halo ,,taken together....you will improve tremendesly in strength ...you will get in the gym and push weights unheard of before to you ,,2 plates each side is nothing,,you may very well after few days do the 200lb dumbell 2 arm behind the neck workin triceps and do 6 reps of it ,,again the major lift will be in your strongest parts,,, aka ...if you were weak lifter in specific exercise due to whatever reason you will improve but the major lifts wil happen with your strong lifts...
shoulder hammer if shoulders are your strongest bodypart,,,you will improve tremendesly into 100lb extra in matter of couple days and ofcourse 2 plates each side extra will come very fast too
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D0 BBERS TAKE HAL0STEIN THEN 0R IS STRICTLY P0WERLIFTERS? I W0ULD THINK M0RE WEIGHT 0N THE BAR WITH THE BBER DRUGS EQUALS M0RE MUSCLE MASS.
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Assbruise.
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D0 BBERS TAKE HAL0STEIN THEN 0R IS STRICTLY P0WERLIFTERS? I W0ULD THINK M0RE WEIGHT 0N THE BAR WITH THE BBER DRUGS EQUALS M0RE MUSCLE MASS.
Halo is a great hardener, IMO the best. Beats even winstrol, which is tough to do. Nasty chemical though, you have 17alpha-methyl, 11 beta-hydroxy and 9-fluoro group additions. It is a derivative of testosterone, so very very androgenic.
No, more weight on the bar does not always mean more muscle. Heavy androgens stimulate the cns to a large degree and enable you to recruit more muscle fibers and hence lift more weight. Does not mean hypertrphy, per se. You can get stronger without experiencing muscle growth.
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D0 BBERS TAKE HAL0STEIN THEN 0R IS STRICTLY P0WERLIFTERS? I W0ULD THINK M0RE WEIGHT 0N THE BAR WITH THE BBER DRUGS EQUALS M0RE MUSCLE MASS.
both bodybuild an dpowerlift take halo,, powerlift see much more out of it ,,for bodybuild it really only get you horny enough to fuck girlfriend alot and gets you real hard and dense....but trenbolona and masterona will do exact same thing with out the boney drieish look halo gives after a while...
powerlift should use this drug ,,bodybuild ...it depends on the bodybuild and its muscle shape
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L0L M0ST PR0S HAVE TR0UBLE D0ING 10 REPS 0N THE BENCH WITH 315.
My on and off training partner did that with only a few cycles over a 12 year period, utilizing the secret practice hard fucking work. This guy was 180lbs before he even picked up a weight and is now at this point, freakish dense, stocky as hell and has the biggest forearms I, and many other people have ever seen. This guy is a 5'8" house with a build similar to a mac truck.
He is the only dude ive EVER seen do 315 for 12 at a bodyweight of 238, with very, very little steroid use and a year+ layoff from seldom, infrequent average doses over only a few years. I can keep up with him with most back movements, but when is comes to any kind of clean pressing, he is a pure powerhouse. And this guy reps out 3 plates on the smith like a feather!
Dude loves training and is a good example of somebody who actually does it purely as a hobby, and most importantly- for $0. No money no ferei no moolah whatsoever. Many pros now rely on drugs from start to finish and are nothing more than drug abusing lazy training weakling synthetic drug sucking douchbags. They really lack hard work, passion, and most of all, respect as a true fellow iron warrior like this dude and few others in this cruel, simplistic, impatient, jealous, greedy world of buoyantly pleasured, anti bodybuilding assholes.
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The coach is an elite powerlifter. he benched 535 @ 185. All natural. ;D
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The coach is an elite powerlifter. he benched 535 @ 185. All natural. ;D
181 and I wasn't natural :P
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181 and I wasn't natural :P
if that was done raw it would make you one of the best benchers ever ;)
the raw records are
165 487 Joe Mazza USA 11/06/10 IPA
181 556 Rick Weil USA 1986 APF
198 565 Larry Danaher USA 1986 USPF/APF
220 582 Mike MacDonald USA 1979 AAU*
535@181 isn't good, its unbelievably good ;D
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My on and off training partner did that with only a few cycles over a 12 year period, utilizing the secret practice hard fucking work. This guy was 180lbs before he even picked up a weight and is now at this point, freakish dense, stocky as hell and has the biggest forearms I, and many other people have ever seen. This guy is a 5'8" house with a build similar to a mac truck.
He is the only dude ive EVER seen do 315 for 12 at a bodyweight of 238, with very, very little steroid use and a year+ layoff from seldom, infrequent average doses over only a few years. I can keep up with him with most back movements, but when is comes to any kind of clean pressing, he is a pure powerhouse. And this guy reps out 3 plates on the smith like a feather!
Dude loves training and is a good example of somebody who actually loves training and does it as a hobby, and most importantly- for $0. No money no ferei no moolah whatsoever. Many pros now rely on drugs from start to finish and are nothing more than drug abusing lazy training weakling synthetic drug sucking douchbags. They really lack hard work, passion, and most of all, respect as a true fellow iron warrior like this dude and few others in this cruel, simplistic, impatient, jealous, greedy world of buoyantly pleasured, anti bodybuilding assholes.
Good shit man! There was a time when gyms were filled with people who lifted purely for the love of it you know. Hopefully those times will come back around, as things have a tendency to be cyclical.
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There was no equipment back then (bench shirts)
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There was no equipment back then (bench shirts)
You're so full of shit it's not even funny, if you did that at 181 and you're heavier now, why don't you post a vid of you pressing 495 ? or even 405 why? cause you won't even budge it off the stand
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Ok, tired of going over this, really can give a shit what you think. I train heavy enough FOR ME at present. You really think I could get a rep with 500lbs at almost 50 years old? I did that when I was 24. Again, use some commonsense.
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You're so full of shit it's not even funny, if you did that at 181 and you're heavier now, why don't you post a vid of you pressing 495 ? or even 405 why? cause you won't even budge it off the stand
of course he didnt bench 535@181 lol
coan benched 570 something @242 in a single ply shirt
coach is just engaging in some self promotion, nothing wrong with that ;D ;D
what he should do is borrow some of tanks plates and do it for reps on youtube
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What the hell could I be possibly promoting? You don't think there's one person on here (out of the thousands who post and lurk) can't do something just because they're not in record books or compete in it? Any, don't care.
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of course he didnt bench 535@181 lol
coan benched 570 something @242 in a single ply shirt
coach is just engaging in some self promotion, nothing wrong with that ;D ;D
what he should do is borrow some of tanks plates and do it for reps on youtube
Tank Abbott benched 600lbs for real.
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you think a professional alchoholic and recreational steroid user
benched as much as the best powerlifter in history?? :'(
ummmmm
no
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LOL...now I'm an alcolholic? Hahaha. I blame these gimmicks on Ron. Hahaha!
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LOL...now I'm an alcolholic? Hahaha. I blame these gimmicks on Ron. Hahaha!
hahahha not you
was talking about TANK ABBOT!
and referencing anvils post
but if there's something you want to tell us all ;D
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Ok sorry. I know Tank (unfortunatly) pretty well and yes you're right, he is. As I've said many times before he's been 86'd out of just about every bar in HB. But I think viking1 said he's cleaned up his act.
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"Powerlifters" ::) more like "Fatlifters" or "Egolifters"
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If that's the case, why do true naturals bust their balls for years, TRUE NATURALS, and can only bench 275, squat 315, and sit at 9% bf at the absolute lowest? You know where these young naturals will be after another 10 years of training? Same bf, most likely fatter, squat will be maybe 40lbs heavier and they'll finally hit 3 plates on the bench. Coach, you should be banned for posting nonsense like this, idiot.
The goal is not important the way to it is.
In short, you make it sound like its a horrible thing to bust your balls, its so much fun as well - fuck so I will never look like a real bodybuilder and I will never be fully ripped, but that doesn't stop me from trying since thats were the fun is, for me at least :)
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181 and I wasn't natural :P
Hehehe, "yeah i just broke the world record unoficially, but im not gonna bother to compete because i don't have anything to prove, im just lifting for myself" ;D ;D ;D
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Damn coach, you're one of the 12 strongest motherfuckers ever in the benchpress!
http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/records/triple-bodyweight-bench-press
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Damn coach, you're one of the 12 strongest motherfuckers ever in the benchpress!
http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/records/triple-bodyweight-bench-press
I'm on that site daily.......I guess I was. Nice to know I have another stalker.
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the reason why the season is shitty is because it is boring shitty game ,, i still havent met one international fella aside from the japs who like this stupid game ,,playing it ...maybe ,,watchin it is complete disaster,,
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The reason why it's shitty (this year) is because they're testing more this year.
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I'm on that site daily.......I guess I was. Nice to know I have another stalker.
Not stalking, I'm just pointing out you're full of shit, so beginning lifters won't take any of your retarded claims serious. :-*
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Not stalking, I'm just pointing out you're full of shit, so beginning lifters won't take any of your retarded claims serious. :-*
1. I'm not GH15.
2. learn how to train before you go calling out my claims. You're a tool and even today I'd bury your ass in the gym.
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Yeah well, at least i have a life outside the gym, and a life outside this board, on which you seem to be posting at least 10 hours a day. Hahaha grown men lying on internet boards trying to gain respect. You're as pathetic as it gets. See you around buddy. Good luck in the gym. :-*
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Yeah well, at least i have a life outside the gym, and a life outside this board, on which you seem to be posting at least 10 hours a day. See you around buddy, keep on lying. :-*
Dude...you're a freaking DJ ::)
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I'm afraid you are mistaking me for somebody else. Anyway, even if i was a DJ, why would that make me worse than you? Your misplaced arrogance is quite laughable really. You're a personal trainer who's posting lies on bb forums for hours a day. Yes you sure are saving the world with your "job". ;)
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I'm afraid you are mistaking me for somebody else. Anyway, even if i was a DJ, why would that make me worse than you? Your misplaced arrogance is quite laughable really. You're a personal trainer who's posting lies on bb forums for hours a day. Yes you sure are saving the world with your "job". ;)
LOL...ok. Not trying to "save the world with my job". You couldn't do my job and can't do yours (what ever that might be).
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8) Note cast on George Frenns leg in first pic............over 700 I think.
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you think a professional alchoholic and recreational steroid user
benched as much as the best powerlifter in history?? :'(
ummmmm
no
Back in the mid 90's, Tank Abbott was a 300lb monster that was extremely strong, did 315lb upright rows, 150lb swinging bumbell curls(!) and benched 585 regularly. Sounds to me like you should do some research on him before you judge him on his last few forgettable years and performances.
And no that lift wasnt legal so technically hes not lifting as much as "the best powerlifter in histoy" lol
Hope that helped you.. ???
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Back in the mid 90's, Tank Abbott was a 300lb monster that was extremely strong, did 315lb upright rows, 150lb swinging bumbell curls(!) and benched 585 regularly. Sounds to me like you should do some research on him before you judge him on his last few forgettable years and performances.
And no that lift wasnt legal so technically hes not lifting as much as "the best powerlifter in histoy" lol
Hope that helped you.. ???
If it's not in record books or didn't compete..it didn't happen - Monster Triceps and just about everyone else on GB.
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If it's not in record books or didn't compete..it didn't happen - Monster Triceps and just about everyone else on GB.
Well what about your 585lb bench at 180lbs that everyone on here is always talking about..I mean thats incredible, where is the official data on that lift? Should I even keep going with this?? ???
Tank Abbott is a strong mofo, period.
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Well what about your 585lb bench at 180lbs that everyone on here is always talking about..I mean thats incredible, where is the official data on that lift? Should I even keep going with this?? ???
Tank Abbott is a strong mofo, period.
It was 535, regardless, if you an absolute 1RM that you barley eaked out then experienced lifters and trainers would know that even though you got that lift anything more, even a 2-5lb increase beyond that weight might feel like a lot more and might take along time to get to and sometimes you never even get to it. That extra 2-5lbs might feel like an extra 50lbs if that makes any sense. I've ALWAYS had a strong upper body and am basically built to bench, thick chest/short arms.
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It was 535, regardless, if you an absolute 1RM that you barley eaked out then experienced lifters and trainers would know that even though you got that lift anything more, even a 2-5lb increase beyond that weight might feel like a lot more and might take along time to get to and sometimes you never even get to it. That extra 2-5lbs might feel like an extra 50lbs if that makes any sense. I've ALWAYS had a strong upper body and am basically built to bench, thick chest/short arms.
And your a small frame dude, so that makes it even more unbelievable. But if you say so I guess ???
BTW You think a 6'1" 300lb+ Tank Abbott would have trouble out benching you?
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I'm not that small of frame, short in stature but not small framed.
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Back in the mid 90's, Tank Abbott was a 300lb monster that was extremely strong, did 315lb upright rows, 150lb swinging bumbell curls(!) and benched 585 regularly. Sounds to me like you should do some research on him before you judge him on his last few forgettable years and performances.
And no that lift wasnt legal so technically hes not lifting as much as "the best powerlifter in histoy" lol
Hope that helped you.. ???
HE ALWAYS SUCKED
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No, he's another who was built to bench, thich chest, short arms and wasn't afraid to take gear. In contrast I was training with Gus Rethwich at that time, and wasn't strong in bench. Brutally strong in everything else tho. We would always bench together.
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HE ALWAYS SUCKED
He kicked ass in 1995
Did you miss something ???
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He kicked ass in 1995
Did you miss something ???
1995 L0L. YAH LIKE THE LEVEL 0F C0MPETITI0N WAS THE SAME BACK THEN. YAH AT THAT TIME Y0U HAD CANS FIGHTING. GUYS THAT STRICTLY DID 0NE DISCIPLINE. THEY WERE N0T C0MPLETE FIGHTERS. ::)
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That's a great series of shots, pretty :-\ the way Scott Wilson's bicep just rolled up on him. Those guys were tough back then.
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1995 L0L. YAH LIKE THE LEVEL 0F C0MPETITI0N WAS THE SAME BACK THEN. YAH AT THAT TIME Y0U HAD CANS FIGHTING. GUYS THAT STRICTLY DID 0NE DISCIPLINE. THEY WERE N0T C0MPLETE FIGHTERS. ::)
Yeah I guess Royce Gracie sucked to ::)
This was NHB fighting, not a watered down governed strict rule enforced reality show cage fight. Tank Abbott at that time was the last mother fucker you would ever wanna fuck with in a bar. Was one hard bastard too.
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Yeah I guess Royce Gracie sucked to ::)
This was NHB fighting, not a watered down governed strict rule enforced reality show cage fight. Tank Abbott at that time was the last mother fucker you would ever wanna fuck with in a bar. Was one hard bastard too.
Y0U HAD A FEW G00D FIGHTERS AT THAT TIME AND R0YCE G0T HIS ASS KICKED BY MATT HUGHES. TANK WAS ALWAYS A STREET FIGHTER WH0 L0ST T0 E VERY C0MPLETE FIGHTER INCLUDING D0N FRYE AND TAKTAR0V. THE GUY 0NLY BEAT CANS.
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Y0U HAD A FEW G00D FIGHTERS AT THAT TIME AND R0YCE G0T HIS ASS KICKED BY MATT HUGHES. TANK WAS ALWAYS A STREET FIGHTER WH0 L0ST T0 E VERY C0MPLETE FIGHTER INCLUDING D0N FRYE AND TAKTAR0V. THE GUY 0NLY BEAT CANS.
Frye got lucky and you know it. And he went 18 minutes with Oleg till the bitter end, and Taktarov went out with a respirator on his face. Your trying to make it seem like Tank got his ass kicked by those guys when really he didn't.
He's also one of the hardest hitters ever too btw, you should know all this ??? ???
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Frye got lucky and you know it. And he went 18 minutes with Oleg till the bitter end, and Taktarov went out with a respirator on his face. Your trying to make it seem like Tank got his ass kicked by those guys when really he didn't.
He's also one of the hardest hitters ever too btw, you should know all this ??? ???
HE STILL L0ST DIDN'T HE. ALS0 TAKTAR0V WAS NEVER AN ELITE FIGHTER. HE G0T HIS ASS KICKED BY G00DRIDGE. FRYE DIDN'T GET LUCKY HE TAPPED HIM 0UT IN A MINUTE. YAH HEAVY HITTER AGAINST FIGHTERS WH0 HAVE L0SING REC0RDS. L00K MAN Y0U 0BVI0USLY D0N'T KN0W JACK SHIT AB0UT MMA IF Y0U DID Y0U W0ULDN'T SAY TANK IS/WAS A G00D FIGHTER. BRB BEING A G00D FIGHTER YET NEVER WINNING A FIGHT AGAINST AN AVERAGE LEVEL FIGHTER.
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HE STILL L0ST DIDN'T HE. ALS0 TAKTAR0V WAS NEVER AN ELITE FIGHTER. HE G0T HIS ASS KICKED BY G00DRIDGE. FRYE DIDN'T GET LUCKY HE TAPPED HIM 0UT IN A MINUTE. YAH HEAVY HITTER AGAINST FIGHTERS WH0 HAVE L0SING REC0RDS. L00K MAN Y0U 0BVI0USLY D0N'T KN0W JACK SHIT AB0UT MMA IF Y0U DID Y0U W0ULDN'T SAY TANK IS/WAS A G00D FIGHTER. BRB BEING A G00D FIGHTER YET NEVER WINNING A FIGHT AGAINST AN AVERAGE LEVEL FIGHTER.
When did I ever say Tank was a good MMA fighter? You are completely misinterpreting what Im saying, cease and desist please. Tank was a very dangerous fighter for his time and had some crazy knockouts, but when more skilled strikers came along that actually trained he couldnt keep up and faded away. He would of smashed Royce Gracie who was considered the best at that time which is why the UFC wouldnt bring Tank in until Royce was gone. He was also the first fighter ever to use gloves in the cage, because he just hit that hard.
You know nothing about bare knuckle NHB fighting though, so this is completely hopeless. Were you raised and weened off the Ultimate fighter TV show btw?
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That's a great series of shots, pretty :-\ the way Scott Wilson's bicep just rolled up on him. Those guys were tough (stupid) back then.
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fixed ::)
Not stupid, it was a power meet and that was a maximum pull. Just an accident, sometimes when you lose a dead you can't just drop it, sub-consciously you tense up and the snap it goes.....
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Not stupid, it was a power meet and that was a maximum pull. Just an accident, sometimes when you lose a dead you can't just drop it, sub-consciously you tense up and the snap it goes.....
He still made the lift too !
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:-\ ouch.
That`s gonna` leave a mark in the morning. :(
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veteran (liar) lifter cycle at my gym:
"we used to make 4 weeks at 250 mg/ week of test E 6 month before a contest, and maybe primobolan tab, 50 mg a day, not dbol; it was too strong."
the dude benched 225 for 55 reps at that time.
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What's so unbelievable about that?
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What's so unbelievable about that?
oh ffs ::)
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oh ffs ::)
We can't all bench close to 600lbs at age 18 :D
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Regarding old NHB fighting, and people who claim that 1995-2000 had "cans" fighting:
The Gracies changed everything. They really brought BJJ to the forefront, which was most certainly a positive. Prior to them (Royce, really), a fighter with a wrestling background would dominate, as when you have two skilled fighters, there is no doubt where the fight will eventually end up; the ground. However, the Gracies insisted that headbutts no longer be allowed in UFC. I know this for a fact. Had headbutts been allowed, Royce would not have been able to hold guard as long as was typical for him, because one of the best tactics to use to break guard is to headbutt the fighter in the guard to create some distance to allow you to use your arms. Without headbutts, if you give up your arm to create distance in order to throw a punch, your risk ARMBAR.
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oh ffs ::)
I don't believe the 225 x55 but the cycle I can believe (depending how long ago it was)