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Title: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: CC973 on July 01, 2011, 04:40:18 PM
Driving your car long distances (over 1k miles straight) is very hard on the engine and can shorten the lifespan of your car.

I need to make a long trip and i'm trying to decide if i'd be better off driving straight (NJ to Ft Lauderdale) or heading down to VA and putting the car on the Amtrak auto train.  I have a 2001 Grand Cherokee with 98k on it.  
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 01, 2011, 04:42:26 PM
Driving your car long distances (over 1k miles straight) is very hard on the engine and can shorten the lifespan of your car.

I need to make a long trip and i'm trying to decide if i'd be better off driving straight (NJ to Ft Lauderdale) or heading down to VA and putting the car on the Amtrak auto train.  I have a 2001 Grand Cherokee with 98k on it.  

It's just a car, drive the piss out of that mother fucker...
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: jmt1 on July 01, 2011, 04:43:27 PM
i'm not a car person but i would be willing to bet that driving long highway miles is actually easier on your car than regular city driving.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: tendonitis on July 01, 2011, 04:44:19 PM
i'm not a car person but i would be willing to bet that driving long highway miles is actually easier on your car then regular city driving.

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Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: DK II on July 01, 2011, 04:44:37 PM
i'm not a car person but i would be willing to bet that driving long highway miles is actually easier on your car then regular city driving.

this.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Parker on July 01, 2011, 04:48:46 PM
i'm not a car person but i would be willing to bet that driving long highway miles is actually easier on your car then regular city driving.
There was a stat yrs ago that stated that the Ferraris that ended up on tow trucks were the ones that sat in traffic all day---their owners never took them out to "air out".

City driving is worse than HWY driving, as the stop and go puts stress on all the systems. I've had all my breakdowns due to city driving.
With 98k, your car has just been broken in.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: SF1900 on July 01, 2011, 04:56:11 PM
i'm not a car person but i would be willing to bet that driving long highway miles is actually easier on your car then regular city driving.

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Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 01, 2011, 05:02:28 PM
It's just a car, drive the piss out of that mother fucker...
I like this philosophy.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: sync pulse on July 01, 2011, 05:25:17 PM
Driving your car long distances (over 1k miles straight) is very hard on the engine and can shorten the lifespan of your car.

I need to make a long trip and i'm trying to decide if i'd be better off driving straight (NJ to Ft Lauderdale) or heading down to VA and putting the car on the Amtrak auto train.  I have a 2001 Grand Cherokee with 98k on it.  
Change the oil,...then if you have time/money...flush cooling system (also, when you top off coolant in the radiator, use distilled/deionized water),...check the belts,...power steering fluids,...if the battery is more than four years old, change it.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Skeletor on July 01, 2011, 05:34:26 PM
Change the oil,...then if you have time/money...flush cooling system (also, when you top off coolant in the radiator, use distilled/deionized water),...check the belts,...power steering fluids,...if the battery is more than four years old, change it.

This, the most simple yet important thing for an engine. Most people forget to change oil at regular intervals.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Parker on July 01, 2011, 05:39:17 PM
Cars are consumables these days, if it breaks just go buy another one.
So I gather that you have 20k-80k to piss on a new car? Or are you talking about a good used car, which will run 8-20k, or are you talking a "piece of a car", like a police auction police cruiser (which has been run into the ground)?
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2011, 05:43:47 PM
Change the oil,...then if you have time/money...flush cooling system (also, when you top off coolant in the radiator, use distilled/deionized water),...check the belts,...power steering fluids,...if the battery is more than four years old, change it.
Real.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Lexus II on July 01, 2011, 06:11:48 PM
Driving long distances in the heat can be tough on transmissions.  Keep your speeds under 75 and have your transmission fluid changed when you get to Florida and you should be fine.  Treat your car right and it will treat you right.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: 65stew on July 01, 2011, 06:16:23 PM
Driving your car long distances (over 1k miles straight) is very hard on the engine and can shorten the lifespan of your car.

I need to make a long trip and i'm trying to decide if i'd be better off driving straight (NJ to Ft Lauderdale) or heading down to VA and putting the car on the Amtrak auto train.  I have a 2001 Grand Cherokee with 98k on it.  

I drive a car with 405k miles. The driving around the city is much harder on a car than a long distance drive.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: jmt1 on July 01, 2011, 06:33:10 PM
Change the oil,...then if you have time/money...flush cooling system (also, when you top off coolant in the radiator, use distilled/deionized water),...check the belts,...power steering fluids,...if the battery is more than four years old, change it.
x2
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Rami on July 01, 2011, 06:34:19 PM
put the garden hose in the exhaust pipe, while the car is running, open up the water on full blast. You must flush it out that way after a long trip.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: bradistani on July 01, 2011, 06:37:36 PM
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Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: DK II on July 01, 2011, 06:39:32 PM
put the garden hose in the exhaust pipe, while the car is running, open up the water on full blast. You must flush it out that way after a long trip.

you can also put the garden hose into the exhaust pipe, put the other end through the window, sit in the car and relax a bit.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: chunkramwell on July 01, 2011, 06:41:33 PM
Your water pump is going to take a dump, seriously.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 01, 2011, 06:44:20 PM
I drive a car with 405k miles. The driving around the city is much harder on a car than a long distance drive.
Mercedes?
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2011, 06:46:05 PM
Mercedes?
Probably a Jeep.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 01, 2011, 06:48:49 PM
Probably a Jeep.
Mercedes is king when it comes to longevity.  Old Rolls-Royces seem to be able to take a beating and keep ticking beyond 200,000 miles.  I`m not so sure about the new ones, but the 70s and 80s Rolls-Royces are built like bank vaults and will outlive you if taken care of.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2011, 06:50:55 PM
Mercedes is king when it comes to longevity.  Old Rolls-Royces seem to be able to take a beating and keep ticking beyond 200,000 miles.  I`m not so sure about the new ones, but the 70s and 80s Rolls-Royces are built like bank vaults and will outlive you if taken care of.
I know a few Jeepers with over 200k on them, one with 390+k, still driven daily. Mercedesdoes pretty well as do Toyotas out here.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: chunkramwell on July 01, 2011, 06:53:31 PM
While we're on the subject I've seen quite a few mid 2000 Hyundai/Kia automobiles with over 200k on them and they're still running well.  Sure we've seen a few of the 2.0l lose head gaskets and lock the engine but if properly maintained they are built solid and similar to the early 90's Japanese cars and you can absolutely steal one due to depreciation.

Who would've thought.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Parker on July 01, 2011, 06:57:24 PM
While we're on the subject I've seen quite a few mid 2000 Hyundai/Kia automobiles with over 200k on them and they're still running well.  Sure we've seen a few of the 2.0l lose head gaskets and lock the engine but if properly maintained they are built solid and similar to the early 90's Japanese cars and you can absolutely steal one due to depreciation.

Who would've thought.
Well Hyundai learned a lot from Honda, since Honda sold them the design and tooling for the old iconic Acura Legend.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 01, 2011, 07:07:02 PM
I still don`t understand why a car manufacture won`t just make at least one of their cars, perfect it and NEVER change it really similar to what VW did a long time with the beetle.  
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: DK II on July 01, 2011, 07:09:43 PM
I still don`t understand why a car manufacture won`t just make at least one of their cars, perfect it and NEVER change it really similar to what VW did a long time with the beetle.  

Because the market demands a new model every year or so and people don't WANT to drive one car for ten years.

Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: chunkramwell on July 01, 2011, 07:11:08 PM
I still don`t understand why a car manufacture won`t just make at least one of their cars, perfect it and NEVER change it really similar to what VW did a long time with the beetle.  

Government intrusion demands unattainable fuel consumption, emissions, and safety targets for older designs.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: 65stew on July 01, 2011, 07:26:37 PM
Mercedes?

Oh how I wish. No, it's a 1998 Toyota Corolla that I bought new. Can't complain though, been a great car. Never had the engine or transmission rebuilt. Still gets over 35mpg.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on July 01, 2011, 07:28:08 PM
While we're on the subject I've seen quite a few mid 2000 Hyundai/Kia automobiles with over 200k on them and they're still running well.  Sure we've seen a few of the 2.0l lose head gaskets and lock the engine but if properly maintained they are built solid and similar to the early 90's Japanese cars and you can absolutely steal one due to depreciation.

Who would've thought.

Us chinamen engineer our cars real well, Mr. Chun.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: chaos on July 01, 2011, 07:29:00 PM
I still don`t understand why a car manufacture won`t just make at least one of their cars, perfect it and NEVER change it really similar to what VW did a long time with the beetle.  
I had a '67 ragtop, drove it everyday, all over the place, never had a problem.


Until someone stole it. :(
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 01, 2011, 07:29:15 PM
Oh how I wish. No, it's a 1998 Toyota Corolla that I bought new. Can't complain though, been a great car. Never had the engine or transmission rebuilt. Still gets over 35mpg.
 Don`t ever get rid of it.  I bet if you make it to 500,000 and contact Toyota they may do something unexpected for you.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Princess L on July 01, 2011, 07:29:42 PM
Driving your car long distances (over 1k miles straight) is very hard on the engine and can shorten the lifespan of your car.

I need to make a long trip and i'm trying to decide if i'd be better off driving straight (NJ to Ft Lauderdale) or heading down to VA and putting the car on the Amtrak auto train.  I have a 2001 Grand Cherokee with 98k on it.  

That's low miles for it's year.  Take care of it and you have a lonnnggg way to go.

Change the oil,...then if you have time/money...flush cooling system (also, when you top off coolant in the radiator, use distilled/deionized water),...check the belts,...power steering fluids,...if the battery is more than four years old, change it.
 and check the oil occasionally along the way and if it turns up low - DO NOT over fill it.

Driving long distances in the heat can be tough on transmissions. Keep your speeds under 75 and have your transmission fluid changed when you get to Florida and you should be fine.  Treat your car right and it will treat you right.
 Not really.  It's the city driving that's hard on trannys.  Should'nt be necessary changing it, unless the owners manual suggests it at that mileage.

put the garden hose in the exhaust pipe, while the car is running, open up the water on full blast. You must flush it out that way after a long trip.

DO NOT
do that ^

At the very very least, take it to Vavoline for an oil change before you leave.  Make sure the tires are properly inflated.  Maybe even have them rotated if it's been awhile.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Cliff Clavin on July 01, 2011, 07:32:47 PM
So I gather that you have 20k-80k to piss on a new car? Or are you talking about a good used car, which will run 8-20k, or are you talking a "piece of a car", like a police auction police cruiser (which has been run into the ground)?

not sure if you buy your cars off dealers or what but i've paid far less than 8-20 grand for good cars that lasted me many many years with no major issues...
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: 65stew on July 01, 2011, 07:35:42 PM
 Don`t ever get rid of it.  I bet if you make it to 500,000 and contact Toyota they may do something unexpected for you.

I was hoping for that. I sent a picture of the odometer to Toyota when it hit 400k and they sent a response back to the effect of "wow, great job" like it happens all the time when I know it doesn't by reading posts of people proud when there car tops 150k miles. lol
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 01, 2011, 07:36:46 PM
I had a '67 ragtop, drove it everyday, all over the place, never had a problem.


Until someone stole it. :(
I had a 1967 Cadillac Deville Convertible a few years ago but I sold it rather fast as the lady I bought it from, called me up and asked me if I would like to resell it for a few thousand more than I bought it for.  I told her of course (I only had it for about two months and was not really attached to it since I used to have a 59 Cadillac Coupe Deville) and off to Los Angeles California it went.  I have always driven cars as much as I can and anywhere possible. The cars that sit in the garage and that nobody drives are the ones you have to be weary of (unless you want a car that you don`t drive).

The last classic car I had was in 2006 and it was a 1960 Plymouth Fury 413 with Golden Commando Badges.  I bought it from Texas and it was what was known as a Mule Car which is a term for a concept car or proving grounds car.  Normally they didn`t come with a 413 but this one did from the factory and was the same setup they used in the Stock Car Races.  Don Petty, Richard Petty`s cousin contacted me and he wanted it for display so I sold it to him.  I only had that one a few months as well and probably should have held on to it, but I am glad it went back to the Petty family as that is where it belongs.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: BIG ACH on July 01, 2011, 07:52:05 PM
I drove from DC to Florida last year, was great, car still seems to be working just fine LOL.

Last month my dad put his car on the Amtrak from Virginia to Florida, had very good things to say about the trip, but he had a first class ticket/ room.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: DK II on July 01, 2011, 08:53:35 PM
I drove from DC to Florida last year, was great, car still seems to be working just fine LOL.

Last month my dad put his car on the Amtrak from Virginia to Florida, had very good things to say about the trip, but he had a first class ticket/ room.

wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to simply get a rental car in Florida?
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Parker on July 01, 2011, 09:08:09 PM
not sure if you buy your cars off dealers or what but i've paid far less than 8-20 grand for good cars that lasted me many many years with no major issues...
Define good cars. And are you talking private owners?
Preventive maintenance can make any car last long, even a car that is a piece of shit....
Had a uncle that drove a 66 Pontiac Catalina from 1966 to 2005 as a daily driver. He knew how to kep it running.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: chunkramwell on July 01, 2011, 10:04:18 PM
Us chinamen engineer our cars real well, Mr. Chun.

If you fellas could just get the hang of driving them what a world it would be.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Cliff Clavin on July 01, 2011, 10:09:04 PM
Define good cars. And are you talking private owners?
Preventive maintenance can make any car last long, even a car that is a piece of shit....
Had a uncle that drove a 66 Pontiac Catalina from 1966 to 2005 as a daily driver. He knew how to kep it running.
well i bought a 02 lincoln navigator from an auction for $7,500 when gas 1st hit $4 in 2008 and everyone thought i was retarded.. just sold it for $7,000 after putting 25,000miles on it without doing anything other than changing oil...now whos laughin  :)

I also owned a monte carlo supersport that i bought 15 years ago for $2,000 and sold to a relative just a few years back and last time i talked to them it had 225,000 miles on the original motor...I could go on...but no point...If you buy off a dealer yea your gonna pay in the price range you said...I've never bought off a dealer in my life and never will...Only private sellers and auctions...and if you do your homework and are patient and know how to barter well you can get a car in the $3,000-$8,000 range that is a good reliable vehicle...all that being said...i acknowledge anytime you buy a car you take a gamble...lemons happen...
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: HTexan on July 01, 2011, 10:59:01 PM
Driving your car long distances (over 1k miles straight) is very hard on the engine and can shorten the lifespan of your car.

I need to make a long trip and i'm trying to decide if i'd be better off driving straight (NJ to Ft Lauderdale) or heading down to VA and putting the car on the Amtrak auto train.  I have a 2001 Grand Cherokee with 98k on it.  
Your suv should be fine. Just change/check all fluids. oil filter, air filter, maybe fuel filter.
it is actually harder on the engine to be in stop and go traffic.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 01, 2011, 11:52:46 PM
Driving long distances in the heat can be tough on transmissions.  Keep your speeds under 75 and have your transmission fluid changed when you get to Florida and you should be fine.  Treat your car right and it will treat you right.

That's hilarious,

I've got 345,000 miles on my 2002 E Class and I only change the Fluid every 100k miles...
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 01, 2011, 11:53:21 PM
Mercedes?

Good post
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Primemuscle on July 02, 2011, 12:00:01 AM
Driving your car long distances (over 1k miles straight) is very hard on the engine and can shorten the lifespan of your car.

I need to make a long trip and i'm trying to decide if i'd be better off driving straight (NJ to Ft Lauderdale) or heading down to VA and putting the car on the Amtrak auto train.  I have a 2001 Grand Cherokee with 98k on it.  

I believe you have bad information. I bought a car once that had over 100,000 miles on it. They were all highway miles. I drove it for another 100,000 miles before I needed to replace the engine. It was a '73 Super Beetle. Best car ever. Gave it to my daughter when she was sixteen. She drove the piss out of it and then sold it. Now she wishes she still had it and so do I. Fortunately, VW is coming out with a new Beetle this year that actually looks like the old one. Hmm?
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 02, 2011, 12:01:46 AM
I believe you have bad information. I bought a car once that had over 100,000 miles on it. They were all highway miles. I drove it for another 100,000 miles before I needed to replace the engine. It was a '73 Super Beetle. Best car ever. Gave it to my daughter when she was sixteen. She drove the piss out of it and then sold it. Now she wishes she still had it and so do I. Fortunately, VW is coming out with a new Beetle this year that actually looks like the old one. Hmm?

Why did those ass holes at VW put the engine in the front of the new beetles? 

Pissed me off big time...
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: dyslexic on July 02, 2011, 12:45:19 AM
Nobody likes a "garage queen" ~ I don't give a shit what kind of car it is, it was made to be driven, not parked and stared at.


Drive it.


(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/vette300K.jpg)


I put those miles on a car that a lot of homos like to park in their garages. They think these particular vehicles will somehow 'melt' in the rain. I've had four of them.


Just drive the S.O.B.


How else are you gonna figure out what it was made for? By asking on a bodybuilding forum?


Oh yeah, guess so. My bad.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 02, 2011, 01:05:30 AM
Nobody likes a "garage queen" ~ I don't give a shit what kind of car it is, it was made to be driven, not parked and stared at.


Drive it.


(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/vette300K.jpg)


I put those miles on a car that a lot of homos like to park in their garages. They think these particular vehicles will somehow 'melt' in the rain. I've had four of them.


Just drive the S.O.B.


How else are you gonna figure out what it was made for? By asking on a bodybuilding forum?


Oh yeah, guess so. My bad.
VERY IMPRESSIVE!!!! 300,000 miles on a Corvette.  I always hear they are built to last.  I bet at 300k the performance is not any different really, is it?
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on July 02, 2011, 02:15:52 AM
Mercedes?
like the w124 mercedes diesel. best mercedes ever
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 02, 2011, 02:38:26 AM
like the w124 mercedes diesel. best mercedes ever

I've been told you can literally almost take an AK47 to one of those diesel engines, and still start it right up and drive away.

Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: HTexan on July 02, 2011, 09:21:30 AM
Mercedes is king when it comes to longevity.  Old Rolls-Royces seem to be able to take a beating and keep ticking beyond 200,000 miles.  I`m not so sure about the new ones, but the 70s and 80s Rolls-Royces are built like bank vaults and will outlive you if taken care of.
bullshit. i never never would buy a benz.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: BIG_STI on July 02, 2011, 10:16:39 AM
bullshit. i never never would buy a benz.

Agreed over the last 10 years they have consistently had some of the poorest reliability ratings
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 02, 2011, 12:01:38 PM
Agreed over the last 10 years they have consistently had some of the poorest reliability ratings
I was more referring to the 70s and 80s Mercedes.  There is not a car out there today that can best the diesel engine from those times.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 02, 2011, 01:33:03 PM
bullshit. i never never would buy a benz.

I didn't know you were gay?

???

Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Parker on July 02, 2011, 01:51:56 PM
I was more referring to the 70s and 80s Mercedes.  There is not a car out there today that can best the diesel engine from those times.
I was at a car parts place (a yard for recently totalled out cars) and there were several Mercedes 300E's from the 90s you could see that they were over engineers by ther construction. Even with the doors stripped of leather, etc, the doors slammed shut like a bank vault. The leather smelled like quality leather. And with the doors stripped, you see how they constructed them---very block-like...
I might even invest in one one day...

Mercedes used to over-engineer their cars, but when Lexus came on the scene, for Mercedes to compete, they stopped their budget---they were spending more to over-engineer their cars. In a announcement back in 2006, the Prez of MB/D-Chrysler stated that MB's quality would be back to standard.
My mom has a 2009 E350, and no problems (she hardly drives it, so that could be a reason).

Also, Volvo's were longevity kings as well. My dad had a 76 model that had over 250k on it, and this was in the mid 90s.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: CC973 on July 02, 2011, 05:43:55 PM
I drove from DC to Florida last year, was great, car still seems to be working just fine LOL.

Last month my dad put his car on the Amtrak from Virginia to Florida, had very good things to say about the trip, but he had a first class ticket/ room.

did it as a passenger once and it ended up being a good time...i just need to find someone i can drag along with me to do half the driving.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: sync pulse on July 02, 2011, 05:56:32 PM
Why did those ass holes at VW put the engine in the front of the new beetles? 

Pissed me off big time...

For front wheel drive which is superior to rear wheel drive...
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 02, 2011, 06:32:31 PM
For front wheel drive which is superior to rear wheel drive...

gay, and not always true...
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Yev33 on July 02, 2011, 06:35:04 PM
I have worked for Audi for the past 8 years, mechanical and electronic issues aside, I have never seen one rust unless it had body work done.  Considering that it's Chicagoland with all the salt and brutal winters it's very impressive. The one thing I can definetely say about German cars, is that the metal quality and treatment of the metal at the assembly plants is second to none.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Parker on July 02, 2011, 06:37:03 PM
For front wheel drive which is superior to rear wheel drive...
For packages---the Beetle uses the Golf chassis, so it's cheaper as well...they ain't gonna use a Rear Engine chassis anytime soon. Only Porsche does that, and has engineered the fuck out it...
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Yev33 on July 02, 2011, 06:38:58 PM
For front wheel drive which is superior to rear wheel drive...

If you are looking for a daily commuter yes.
If you want something thats more performance oriented, absolutely not.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: sync pulse on July 02, 2011, 09:34:50 PM
If you are looking for a daily commuter yes.
If you want something thats more performance oriented, absolutely not.

Not true...If your definition of performance includes nimble handling...not true.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: 99 Bananas on July 02, 2011, 09:46:18 PM
I'd suggest front wheel drive for anyone who enjoys a good penis.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Dipadidu on July 02, 2011, 11:07:42 PM
fwd is cheaper to build und needs less space than rwd.
and it's more stable on snow and ice

rwd is better on everything else.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: claymore on July 03, 2011, 04:34:57 AM
i'm not a car person but i would be willing to bet that driving long highway miles is actually easier on your car than regular city driving.

"driving long highway miles is actually easier on your car than regular city driving."...FACT !!
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Parker on July 03, 2011, 05:23:19 AM
I've got plenty of money thanks but you should make a purchasing decision based on your own budget not mine. Hope this helps.
It has nothing to do with my purchasing decision...I was responding to you seemingly nonchalant view of "if it beaks down, go get another"

Not everybody has money to go buy a new car right after a car breaks down, or buy a good used cars (CPO), maybe from a private seller---like I found a '91 Mercedes 300CE for $3850 on Craigslist...the car is good condition, and they are known for being bulletproof... Or like this guy i know who got a 1990 Lexus LS400 after one of his cars went up...
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: chunkramwell on July 03, 2011, 07:06:31 AM
It has nothing to do with my purchasing decision...I was responding to you seemingly nonchalant view of "if it beaks down, go get another"

Not everybody has money to go buy a new car right after a car breaks down, or buy a good used cars (CPO), maybe from a private seller---like I found a '91 Mercedes 300CE for $3850 on Craigslist...the car is good condition, and they are known for being bulletproof... Or like this guy i know who got a 1990 Lexus LS400 after one of his cars went up...

I think everyone needs a backup ride, mine is a 1984 Toyota 4x4 pickup and it will last long after all daily drivers have met the great junkyard in the sky.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: doriancutlerman on July 03, 2011, 07:45:42 AM
i'm not a car person but i would be willing to bet that driving long highway miles is actually easier on your car than regular city driving.

You're quite right, but that's also a red herring.  It is easier on a car than simply driving about the city, but that doesn't mean a 1,000 klick trip isn't unreasonably hard on the automobile, too. 
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 03, 2011, 11:31:12 AM
I think everyone needs a backup ride, mine is a 1984 Toyota 4x4 pickup and it will last long after all daily drivers have met the great junkyard in the sky.

You can`t kill it no matter what you do!

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Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Yev33 on July 03, 2011, 01:49:29 PM
Not true...If your definition of performance includes nimble handling...not true.

Maybe you dont understand this concept, so I will explain it to you in the most simple terms. Ideally in a car as far as handling is concerned you want a 50/50 weight split between the front and rear axles. On a FWD vehicle most of the weight sits right over the front axle causing the vehicle to be front heavy and nose dive into turns. On a RWD vehicle you have the  rear axle in the back to even out the weight, and more importantly the engine is mounted longitudaly ( not transverse ) so that puts the transmission toward the center of the vehicle along with the driveshaft running towards the back.

This is fairly basic shit and can be figured out with some common sense.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 03, 2011, 01:53:14 PM
Maybe you dont understand this concept, so I will explain it to you in the most simple terms. Ideally in a car as far as handling is concerned you want a 50/50 weight split between the front and rear axles. On a FWD vehicle most of the weight sits right over the front axle causing the vehicle to be front heavy and nose dive into turns. On a RWD vehicle you have the  rear axle in the back to even out the weight, and more importantly the engine is mounted longitudaly ( not transverse ) so that puts the transmission toward the center of the vehicle along with the driveshaft running towards the back.

This is fairly basic shit and can be figured out with some common sense.

I appreciate this post!
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Skeletor on July 03, 2011, 02:18:16 PM
Not to mention torque steer on powerful fwd cars (the recent Revo Knuckle and torsen equipped cars excepted).
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: chunkramwell on July 03, 2011, 02:57:55 PM
Not to mention torque steer on powerful fwd cars (the recent Revo Knuckle and torsen equipped cars excepted).

Saab 9-3 Viggen is nearly undriveable under full acceleration due to monster torque steer.  Pretty good forearm workout too.
Title: Re: Car People: Fact or Fiction?
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on July 05, 2011, 12:58:37 PM
Saab 9-3 Viggen is nearly undriveable under full acceleration due to monster torque steer.  Pretty good forearm workout too.
same with the aero 9-3, the steeringwheel shakes like crazy whem you put the pedal to the floor.