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Father And Son Assault Leads To Death
Everyone was stunned after Isayah Muller, a promising young Truman High School football star, was stabbed to death just hours after his graduation on June 28, 2011.
There was outrage after his father, Andre Muller, was arrested and charged with starting a fight, but the man who fatally stabbed Isayah was not arrested.
The fight at a parking lot in the Bronx between was over a $200 bottle of cologne -- a graduation gift that went missing from the family's car.
Police maintained Isayah's dad was the aggressor. But some didn't want to believe it.
The video is from a surveillance camera inside the parking lot booth. The employee's faces are concealed because their lives have allegedly been threatened.
You can see the parking attendants speaking with Isayah's father, Andre. He is standing at the entrance, had accused the employees of stealing the cologne.
They talk, there is some gesturing, and things appear to escalate. The attendants even let Andre look inside their personal backpacks and search the drawers.
One of the attendants then gets on the phone to call 911.
You can also see Andre's pregnant wife, Rosa, at the door. She is just inches away from her husband, but as soon as she steps away, that's when it gets out of control.
Suddenly Andre throws the first punch. The attendant loses his balance from the force but does not strike back and stays on the phone.
A second attendant also does not fight back.
Isayah appears in the doorway, still wearing his tie from graduation.
Seconds later, his dad picks up a bicycle and apparently tries to throw it. The attendant attempts to shut the door, but you can see Isayah pushing it back open.
Then his father charges in with a snow shovel in hand. He starts swinging at both attendants. One attendant picks up a chair to fend him off. The other attendant picks up a machete.
Andre then backs away and closes the door. But seconds later, Isayah busts through the door with Andre right behind him.
It's an all-out brawl: father and son swinging away at the attendants, one attendant still brandishing a machete during the melee.
You see Isayah on top of the other attendant, punching him. Police say the attendant then used a homemade knife and stabbed the 19-year-old in the chest.
The NYPD arrested Andre and charged him with assault and weapons possession. He pleaded not guilty.
Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly appeared on Good Day New York last week and said that the attendants, who were not arrested, were acting in self defense.
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I would kill for my Eau Savage
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I dont understand, So the Fathers Kid the one the bursts through the door after the door got shut got stabbed in the chest and died?
edit* seems like it. Are we supposed to feel bad or something? Im glad he died and not the poor employees , damn animals
luckily he had a knife on him.
"I want justice for my cousin so bad" that exactly what you got. Fucking dummies
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he was a football star
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obviously as stupid as his father.
Guys Lets him search their bags. Which leads him to assaulting them. Im so haappy the employe didnt get stabbed to death which is what I thought happened at first
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was going to play for the falcons
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he was great football player
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gee,black people.Who would have guessed.They literally ruin everything.Put them on a boat and ship them out.Then we will have a nice country once again.
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quality cologne is not cheap.
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a years back, Some Degenerate Fuck-face "MECHANIC" ::) at jiffy lube stole my brothers Palm Pilot, When they finished changing his oil my Bro noticed his Palm Pilot missing he went to the office to complain, the Mechanic was like I bet its under your seat let me take a look, came back in the office like SEE its right here, ...... Jiffy Lube was located in a Black Neighbor hood
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great video...great story. I love when the good win!
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Shame the kid died but it's the dad who should get full blame for starting everything.
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gee,black people.Who would have guessed.They literally ruin everything.Put them on a boat and ship them out.Then we will have a nice country once again.
This country was never "nice"...it was good. It seems that when times get hard, we all like to blame others for making things not so "nice", when in reality it is the rich mofos running things that made it that way.
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dude got his son kill, he must feel like shit.
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dude got his son kill, he must feel like shit.
Yep, and no money coming his way (I'm thinking about Friday Night Lights)
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Yep, and no money coming his way (I'm thinking about Friday Night Lights)
you know, i don't think he did it for the $200. I think he was angry becuase he felt he was wronged. And wanted his revenge. Idk, if the parking attendants took his perfume or not. now all his family and "supporters" want revenge on the parking attendants. Lol how they say "we want justice", even after the vid come out. :-\
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you know, i don't think he did it for the $200. I think he was angry becuase he felt he was wronged. And wanted his revenge. Idk, if the parking attendants took his perfume or not. now all his family and "supporters" want revenge on the parking attendants. Lol how they say "we want justice", even after the vid come out. :-\
True, but...if the parking lot attendants are compliant in your requests, show you that they didn't have it. Then there are proper procedures. And dude (or should I say the son) attack them...so going by the perspective of the attendants, I'm going to protect my person---whatever the outcome is, I'm going home.
Had the father been slow to anger, and quick to access all the diff scenarios, chances are his son would be still here.
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True, but...if the parking lot attendants are compliant in your requests, show you that they didn't have it. Then there are proper procedures. And dude (or should I say the son) attack them...so going by the perspective of the attendants, I'm going to protect my person---whatever the outcome is, I'm going home.
Had the father been slow to anger, and quick to access all the diff scenarios, chances are his son would be still here.
Yes, attendants were complaint and they didnt have to be. The thing is, i wouldn't let my father( i don't have kids, but son too). Get in a fight for a bottle of perfume. The outcome will never be good. Do you really think a park attendant would risk his job in this economy over a bottle of perfume? Especially with all the cams around?
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Yes, attendants were complaint and they didnt have to be. The thing is, i wouldn't let my father( i don't have kids, but son too). Get in a fight for a bottle of perfume. The outcome will never be good. Do you really think a park attendant would risk his job in this economy over a bottle of perfume? Especially with all the cams around?
Exactly...the kid should have said, "Dad, forget it, just forget it..."
I am guessing the cologne was for his son....a years back, Some Degenerate Fuck-face "MECHANIC" ::) at jiffy lube stole my brothers Palm Pilot, When they finished changing his oil my Bro noticed his Palm Pilot missing he went to the office to complain, the Mechanic was like I bet its under your seat let me take a look, came back in the office like SEE its right here, ...... Jiffy Lube was located in a Black Neighbor hood
Did your brother go out there with him?
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1. Why start a fight over a bottle of Cologne? That's not what normal civilized people do. Andre should've called 911 instead.
2. If you DO start a fight, make sure your opponent(s) dont have access to knives/guns other weapons.
3. Do not fight in a tight spaces, drag the person outside where he cannot grab a weapon. Prevent him from running away. The attendants were merely defending their lives.
Tragic and soo unnecessary.
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Epic midlife crisis. ::)
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Geez, in my opinion its a unsafe to have the father out on bail.
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gee,black people.Who would have guessed.They literally ruin everything.Put them on a boat and ship them out.Then we will have a nice country once again.
no we wouldn't. you're an idiot.
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gee,black people.Who would have guessed.They literally ruin everything.Put them on a boat and ship them out.Then we will have a nice country once again.
did you see those african guys set fire for potatos? like i said, anyone of afro descent should take God their ancestors got deported out that shit hole.
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Herkulez Broskie
Re: father gets son killed over bottle of cologne
« Reply #19 on: Today at 09:31:58 PM » Quote
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1. Why start a fight over a bottle of Cologne?
That wasnt just cologne yo. That was "Oh de do da day"
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Geez, in my opinion its a unsafe to have the father out on bail.
It's fucking amazing that bail was even considered... He's a multiple felon and was filmed menacing and assaulting somebody with a weapon. I could care less if his son was a good athlete that doesn't make his life any more important then anybody else.
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Angry over fucking fragrance?
$200 for fucking fragrance??
This is that DeBarge Syndrome I was telling y'all about. White folks got Blacks so sissified nowadays that we gon' get MAD cuz somebody done took our 'smellin fresh'.
Let's keep this shit real. The real racists are happy as fuck to see shit like this - another dead black boy whose daddy was a fag.
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Genetics don't lie.
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Nobody gives a shit about a black kid who gets robbed and beat up or if he's lucky just teased and told he wants to be white on a daily basis cause he does well in school but lives in a gang infested neighborhood. It's not just white racists who feel threatened by educated black men.
QFT. The blacks are just a racist as the whites. I had a buddy in elementary school, and begining of junior high who was black. We hung out together after school, and he was a regular kid. Then we got to high school and he changed. It's like he wasn't "black enough". His new buddies shamed him into thinking he was a Tom, and he ended up flunking out of school. Pretty sad. Inner city blacks should want their people to get educated, and prosper. One of black people's problems, is their sense of "community." They stay in the neighborhood trying to change people who can't/don't want to change, and they just go down with the ship. White people are like the zebras on the african plains. I see a lion eating one of my heard, I just keep on gettin it. I don't have time to slow my self down and help those who do not want to help themselves.
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"It sunk in right away," Hamilton said. "I know the kind of person that he is. I'm sure he stuck up for his family members in that situation. It's a shame it had to go like that, but that's the way that Isayah would go out."
The above is a quote taken from ESPN.
Disturbing to say the least, and shows that man was willing to risk his life over a bottle of cologne. 19 years old and turned a situation that had a maximum of $200 loss into him wearing a toe tag.
Damn.
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Wrong. It's videos like this that reinforce the stereotype of black men resulting to violence to solve EVERYTHING. What bothers me is to see a young black teen who's a fucking honor student and is killed by a stray bullet or for no real reason at all. That's fu*king tragic! Nobody gives a shit about a black kid who gets robbed and beat up or if he's lucky just teased and told he wants to be white on a daily basis cause he does well in school but lives in a gang infested neighborhood. It's not just white racists who feel threatened by educated black men.
never seen an educated black men, they all have criminal histories if thats what you mean by 'education'
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blacks struggle with rage and anger. youl NEVER EVER see a black stranger smile and wave as a kind gesture. i do this all the time in black neighborhoods to shock there senses looking directly at them to instigate a response, i tend to only get looked at angerly
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black on black crime should concern everybody :-*
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Angry over fucking fragrance?
$200 for fucking fragrance??
This is that DeBarge Syndrome I was telling y'all about. White folks got Blacks so sissified nowadays that we gon' get MAD cuz somebody done took our 'smellin fresh'.
Let's keep this shit real. The real racists are happy as fuck to see shit like this - another dead black boy whose daddy was a fag.
You're really gonna blame this on racist white people. Idiot...
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elect me in 2012 as the new Minority Leader
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Fucken retards that kid deserved what he got. You don't rush into a tiny little enclosed space when someone is wielding a machete. All of this over a bottle of cologne.
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gee,black people.Who would have guessed.They literally ruin everything.Put them on a boat and ship them out.Then we will have a nice country once again.
Of course it was a Black.. Whites blow themselves up ,when they cooking in Meth Labs..!?
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"He was protecting his son - out of self defense"
ignorant ass relative... watch the video.
The 19 year old kicked down a door and started beating the shit out of a guy... deserved it, sadly.
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Seen it before.... overwhelming evidence against the person... family and friends declare it's an injustice. The truth is irrelevant.
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never seen an educated black men, they all have criminal histories if thats what you mean by 'education'
perhaps you should get out of your trailer park once in awhile... just sayin'
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Lovely story.
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"Young blackmen, if you go to the movie theater and someone steps on your foot, let it slide! Why spend the next 20 years in jail cause someone smudged your Pumas?"
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Of course it was a Black.. Whites blow themselves up ,when they cooking in Meth Labs..!?
Jealousy. Whens the last time you ever hard about a black man working in a lab.
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he was great football hand egg player
fixed...
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Jealousy. Whens the last time you ever hard about a black man working in a lab.
Eddie Murphy... remake of a Disney movie
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Must have been a good cologne, which company is using the smell of Watermelon?
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Must have been a good cologne, which company is using the smell of Watermelon?
:)
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A wannabe boxer learned a great lesson against the machete. ::)
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Why would anyone with even a small percent of common sense rush into a tiny room someone is holdig a footlong sharp knife. So stupid.
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quality cologne is not cheap.
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a great gift for those friendly folks in the kkk ;D
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Why would anyone with even a small percent of common sense rush into a tiny room someone is holdig a footlong sharp knife. So stupid.
'Cause they got "dissed".
It's incredible the number of people that kill or get killed over getting "dissed".
YouknowwhatI'msayin'?
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i wonder how it smells?
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i wonder how it smells?
Buy some shark meat, mix it up with the mud in your Garden and sniff away.
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i wonder how it smells?
smells like camel dick hair, with a Hence of watermellon
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when keeping it real goes wrong.........
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Wrong. It's videos like this that reinforce the stereotype of black men resulting to violence to solve EVERYTHING. What bothers me is to see a young black teen who's a fucking honor student and is killed by a stray bullet or for no real reason at all. That's fu*king tragic! Nobody gives a shit about a black kid who gets robbed and beat up or if he's lucky just teased and told he wants to be white on a daily basis cause he does well in school but lives in a gang infested neighborhood. It's not just white racists who feel threatened by educated black men.
Good post...Without wanting to sound racist, I honestly do think if a true unbiased neurological experiment was conducted, it would be discovered that there's is something in the brain chemistry of blacks that causes them to anger and resort to violence at much higher rates than other races. Time and time again, a black will kill someone over the slightest problem.. I've read incidents where a black teen will murder his friend because he wouldn't give him his turn on a playstation..or he was "dissed"..or something equally ridiculous. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be hardly anyone in the Black Community that wants to talk about it. It's always somehow the white man's fault for the astoundingly high incidents of violent crime and incarceration...Maybe the truth is..a higher natural proclivity towards violence exists in Blacks. Of course, the results of such a study would never see the light of day. We must all pretend that all races have equal temperaments. Of course no one would argue a pitbull acts differently than a poodle.
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Good post...Without wanting to sound racist, I honestly do think if a true unbiased neurological experiment was conducted, it would be discovered that there's is something in the brain chemistry of blacks that causes them to anger and resort to violence at much higher rates than other races. Time and time again, a black will kill someone over the slightest problem.. I've read incidents where a black teen will murder his friend because he wouldn't give him his turn on a playstation..or he was "dissed"..or something equally ridiculous. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be hardly anyone in the Black Community that wants to talk about it. It's always somehow the white man's fault for the astoundingly high incidents of violent crime and incarceration...Maybe the truth is..a higher natural proclivity towards violence exists in Blacks. Of course, the results of such a study would never see the light of day. We must all pretend that all races have equal temperaments. Of course no one would argue a pitbull acts differently than a poodle.
Pssst....here's a hint, they respect and value life less.
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Pssst....here's a hint, they respect and value life less.
Perhaps..but even a guy with a good life..like O.J. Simpson will snap and butcher people...and of course Blacks cheered when he was found not guilty. There has to be a difference in their brains. Civilized humans don't celebrate the aquittal of a murderer.
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Good post...Without wanting to sound racist, I honestly do think if a true unbiased neurological experiment was conducted, it would be discovered that there's is something in the brain chemistry of blacks that causes them to anger and resort to violence at much higher rates than other races. Time and time again, a black will kill someone over the slightest problem.. I've read incidents where a black teen will murder his friend because he wouldn't give him his turn on a playstation..or he was "dissed"..or something equally ridiculous. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be hardly anyone in the Black Community that wants to talk about it. It's always somehow the white man's fault for the astoundingly high incidents of violent crime and incarceration...Maybe the truth is..a higher natural proclivity towards violence exists in Blacks. Of course, the results of such a study would never see the light of day. We must all pretend that all races have equal temperaments. Of course no one would argue a pitbull acts differently than a poodle.
It's not genetic, it's learned.
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i wonder just how pratical that is in day to day living ?
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Nice place. Even the staff carry machetes and 'home-made' knives.
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Jealousy. Whens the last time you ever hard about a black man working in a lab.
Isn't that what the blacks say when they're in the studio ,creating music..? I'm in the lab YO..LOL..
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They forgot to mention the whole place smells lik urine.
STAY POSITIVE
GOD BLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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1. Why start a fight over a bottle of Cologne? That's not what normal civilized people do. Andre should've called 911 instead.
2. If you DO start a fight, make sure your opponent(s) dont have access to knives/guns other weapons.
3. Do not fight in a tight spaces, drag the person outside where he cannot grab a weapon. Prevent him from running away. The attendants were merely defending their lives.
Tragic and soo unnecessary.
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sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet, is he a wrestler?
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Good post...Without wanting to sound racist, I honestly do think if a true unbiased neurological experiment was conducted, it would be discovered that there's is something in the brain chemistry of blacks that causes them to anger and resort to violence at much higher rates than other races. Time and time again, a black will kill someone over the slightest problem.. I've read incidents where a black teen will murder his friend because he wouldn't give him his turn on a playstation..or he was "dissed"..or something equally ridiculous. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be hardly anyone in the Black Community that wants to talk about it. It's always somehow the white man's fault for the astoundingly high incidents of violent crime and incarceration...Maybe the truth is..a higher natural proclivity towards violence exists in Blacks. Of course, the results of such a study would never see the light of day. We must all pretend that all races have equal temperaments. Of course no one would argue a pitbull acts differently than a poodle.
Simple, it's the culture they follow. "rap culture." many blacks will always deny it, but the take a look around. Until they accept it, and stop blaming everyone for their problems, nothing is going to change. To be honest, and I am not a racist person, are blacks really proud of their people when it's either focused on sports, and music?? What about education??
And to Parker, stop blaming others like rich people. Everyone has an opportunity in the US. everyones failures and shortcomings are their own damn faults ;)
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Good post...Without wanting to sound racist, I honestly do think if a true unbiased neurological experiment was conducted, it would be discovered that there's is something in the brain chemistry of blacks that causes them to anger and resort to violence at much higher rates than other races. Time and time again, a black will kill someone over the slightest problem.. I've read incidents where a black teen will murder his friend because he wouldn't give him his turn on a playstation..or he was "dissed"..or something equally ridiculous. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be hardly anyone in the Black Community that wants to talk about it. It's always somehow the white man's fault for the astoundingly high incidents of violent crime and incarceration...Maybe the truth is..a higher natural proclivity towards violence exists in Blacks. Of course, the results of such a study would never see the light of day. We must all pretend that all races have equal temperaments. Of course no one would argue a pitbull acts differently than a poodle.
And I've explained this time and time again, but it seems like many of you don't listen to common sense. It wasn't until the late 60s ro early 70s that black men were seen as "dangerous" or "thuggish", and then they were deemed that...so, they acted out as they were projected to be. And soon hat became part of the stereotype to play out---in the inner cities. Before, especially in the South, black men were seen as "yella" and good lil Negroes...check some of the old vids, like after the Emmit Till verdict, you black men, looking around as they are being interviewed, as if they had to watch what they said, or they were stumbling over their words.
Because black people have allowed others to dictate what they are, instead of dictating who they are themselves, and Baby Boomer Parenting issue (the I do it all by myself female agenda), you have the makings for black men to be over macho about being "dissed"...
Please read what I wrote, and other things on the same issue. It will help you in the future. Thank You.
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It's not genetic, it's learned.
It must be. Some of you might know the stereotype of us Finns that we are shy, reserved and quiet people. It's exactly true. Sometimes I hate it because it makes human interaction difficult but the good side is there is practically no confrontations without alcohol present.
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Look how crazy they get when their favorite "restraunt" runs out of chicken...
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Look how crazy they get when their favorite "restraunt" runs out of chicken...
You see that white girl go loco over chicken nuggets? She started hitting the woman thru the teller window, and broke the window...idiots all around...
Ever go to court and see what people come to court in? Nobody dresses up, and many times the attorneys don't know how to dress themselves...especially the women.
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Isn't that what the blacks say when they're in the studio ,creating music..? I'm in the lab YO..LOL..
Haha, Do they? Well you learn something new everyday.
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Look how crazy they get when their favorite "restraunt" runs out of chicken...
lol, but fried chicken is so damned good.. :P
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"no chicken or there just out of chicken" ;D
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Look how crazy they get when their favorite "restraunt" runs out of chicken...
Forgive me I'm from Italy so maybe i can't understand fully certain types of dynamic, but I'm serious: is this thing staged right? Is something from a show?
It just can't be real!
No way
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1. Why start a fight over a bottle of Cologne? That's not what normal civilized people do. Andre should've called 911 instead.
2. If you DO start a fight, make sure your opponent(s) dont have access to knives/guns other weapons.
3. Do not fight in a tight spaces, drag the person outside where he cannot grab a weapon. Prevent him from running away. The attendants were merely defending their lives.
Tragic and soo unnecessary.
Monday morning quarterbacking at it's finest ::)
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Forgive me I'm from Italy so maybe i can't understand fully certain types of dynamic, but I'm serious: is this thing staged right? Is something from a show?
It just can't be real!
No way
HAHa. Yes it is real.
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HAHa. Yes it is real.
i'm speachless, really
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Worst, i went get some chicken before. The bitch there told me, "we ran out of cooked chicken, and we don't want to cook anymore". straight up, just like that. im was like WTF? i didnt even know to say. im like what time do you close? she said 9pm. it was 6pm. :-\
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Worst, i went get some chicken before. The bitch there told me, "we ran out of cooked chicken, and we don't want to cook anymore". straight up, just like that. im was like WTF? i didnt even know to say. im like what time do you close? she said 9pm. it was 6pm. :-\
What a quandry..... You could push the issue... talk to a manager, insist on calling the owner of the chain who would probably want to know why his employees aren't making him money.... but then let's say you win...... are you really going to eat the chicken they prepared for you all pissed off?
I feel ya man...
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Expert timing..
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Simple, it's the culture they follow. "rap culture." many blacks will always deny it, but the take a look around. Until they accept it, and stop blaming everyone for their problems, nothing is going to change. To be honest, and I am not a racist person, are blacks really proud of their people when it's either focused on sports, and music?? What about education??
And to Parker, stop blaming others like rich people. Everyone has an opportunity in the US. everyones failures and shortcomings are their own damn faults ;)
But clearly judging by your comments and many others here, intellect is in short supply
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But clearly judging by your comments and many others here, intellect is in short supply
Judging by yours, you aren't witty either.
So, I ask you, is it the culture?? Answer the question, smart ass!
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Judging by yours, you aren't witty either.
So, I ask you, is it the culture?? Answer the question, smart ass!
That would be a gross oversimplification! If only life was that simple.
Look, I'm not ducking your question, I don't know why things seem to be the way they are, I'm guessing neither do you. So stop talking out of your ass and being a racist while claiming that it's not your intent
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That would be a gross oversimplification! If only life was that simple.
Look, I'm not ducking your question, I don't know why things seem to be the way they are, I'm guessing neither do you. So stop talking out of your ass and being a racist while claiming that it's not your intent
Weak!! As expected! Of course you can't answer it. I bet you're the kind of person that screams "racist," when then they can't debate a topic, lol
I have never posted about whites are smarter than blacks or vice versa. I posted a legit answer, and some get their panties all wet. Guess these things are touchy/sensitive to weak minded individuals like yourself.
Get lost, idiot!!
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Weak!! As expected! Of course you can't answer it. I bet you're the kind of person that screams "racist," when then they can't debate a topic, lol
I have never posted about whites are smarter than blacks or vice versa. I posted a legit answer, and some get their panties all wet. Guess these things are touchy/sensitive to weak minded individuals like yourself.
Get lost, idiot!!
Smart people know what they don't know. Dumbasses make itbup as they go along
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Fucken retards that kid deserved what he got. You don't rush into a tiny little enclosed space when someone is wielding a machete. All of this over a bottle of cologne.
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They f@#*%ed with the wrong Mexicans.
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Look how crazy they get when their favorite "restraunt" runs out of chicken...
At 0:34 I thought at first I heard `we can´t feed like pigs....?`....
People just have no dignity anymore...