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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The True Adonis on July 17, 2011, 04:08:13 PM
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Sheeple Adam. That's why.
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Convenience and stupidity
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Some supplements can be helpful, most not.
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Convenience and stupidity
Convenience for what?
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Some supplements can be helpful, most not.
Helpful for what?
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Helpful for what?
Some people are pressed for time, big guy. When you have a career and family, you'll understand.
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Some people are pressed for time, big guy. When you have a career and family, you'll understand.
Pressed for time? You mean they go 24 hours and more without the ability to go to McDonalds at least? Thats the shittiest excuse I have ever heard you incorrigible moron. Seriously.
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When we say supplements do we mean AAS, designer OTC AAS, Fish Oil, glossy magazine advertisement snake oil?
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There are a few vitamin supplements that are worthwhile.
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Pressed for time? You mean they go 24 hours and more without the ability to go to McDonalds at least? Thats the shittiest excuse I have ever heard you incorrigible moron. Seriously.
Like I said, when you leave your menial minimum wage job and join the real world - you'll get it. Also, some of us having working sperm and are married which means we have children. Children are a variable which subtract "free time."
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I take them to irritate people on message boards.
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I take them to irritate people on message boards.
I take them to throw money down the drain.
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same reasom some people still believe in this guy.
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I'm on Size On and put on a few lbs in a week. Probably just due to being off Creatine for a while.
Useful supplements are:
Protein
Creatine
BCAAs (maybe)
Multi Vitamin
Fish oil/omega 3
That's it.
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I take them to irritate people on message boards.
Lol
Hey adonis post a current pic and show us the wonders your pepsi max diet has been doing to your phsysique.
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Lol
Hey adonis post a current pic and show us the wonders your pepsi max diet has been doing to you.
I am sure he is tearing up those smith machine squats. Anyone who'd post a pic squatting on a smith machine is a tard.
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I'm on Size On and put on a few lbs in a week. Probably just due to being off Creatine for a while.
Useful supplements are:
Protein
Creatine
BCAAs (maybe)
Multi Vitamin
Fish oil/omega 3
That's it.
Solid list. I'd say BCAA plus EAA. Omega fatty acids are one of the most overlooked nutrients.
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People take supplements because they are badass already and want to continue to be just that - badass - for life.
You can always tell who had a protein shake before the gym because that is the guy that will always go the extra mile.
Peace in the Middle East!
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I am sure he is tearing up those smith machine squats. Anyone who'd post a pic squatting on a smith machine is a tard.
I have never used a Smith Machine for anything as I can`t due to my long limbs. You must have me confused with someone else. I hope this helps.
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There are a few vitamin supplements that are worthwhile.
No there isn`t.
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No there isn`t aren't.
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Incorrect.
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Incorrect.
Yes, you are.
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Yes, you are.
Wrong for the simple facts of Neology according to Thomas Jefferson and most recenty, Steven Pinker, who sits on the board of the Oxford Dictionary/Oxford University Press.
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I have never used a Smith Machine for anything as I can`t due to my long limbs. You must have me confused with someone else. I hope this helps.
You posted a pic on here directed to Coach. I have a photographic memory, big guy.
HTH
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In before the meltdown
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Wrong for the simple facts of Neology according to Thomas Jefferson and most recenty, Steven Pinker, who sits on the board of the Oxford Dictionary/Oxford University Press.
Neology ???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neology
What does any of that have do you with you not knowing the basics of plurality?
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to look like their favorite IFBB Pro
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You posted a pic on here directed to Coach. I have a photographic memory, big guy.
HTH
That was The Leafy Bug. You must have a rather poor "photographic" memory.
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Neology ???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neology
What does any of that have do you with you not knowing the basics of plurality?
Why don`t you just google Neology and Thomas Jefferson. Also, it would help to post the correct definition of Neology.
Furthermore, you ought to read more into Lexical Functional Grammar. That may help you a long a bit.
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"your retarded" is getbigs most used neologism
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If Dictionaries are to be the Arbiters of language, in which of them shall we find Neologism. No matter. It is a good word, well sounding, obvious, and expresses an idea which would otherwise require circumlocution. ... I am a friend to Neology. It is the only way to give to a language copiousness and euphony. Without it we should still be held to the vocabulary of Alfred or of Ulphilas.
—Thomas Jefferson, American politician, statesman, and writer, letter to John Waldo, 1820
I am no friend, therefore, to what is called Purism, but a zealous one to the Neology which has introduced these two words without the authority of any dictionary. I consider the one as destroying the nerve and beauty of language, while the otherimproves both, and adds to its copiousness. I have been not a little disappointed, and made suspicious of my own judgment, on seeing the Edinburgh Reviews, the ablest critics of the age, set their faces against the introduction of new words into the English language; they are particularly apprehensive that the writers of the United States will adulterate it.
—Thomas Jefferson, American politician, statesman, and writer, letter to John Waldo, 1813
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Why don`t you just google Neology and Thomas Jefferson. Also, it would help to post the correct definition of Neology.
Furthermore, you ought to read more into Lexical Functional Grammar. That may help you a long a bit.
brutal
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Dictionaries are but the depositories of words already legitimated by usage. Society is the work-shop in which new ones are elaborated. When an individual uses a new word, if illformed it is rejected in society, if wellformed, adopted, and, after due time, laid up in the depository of dictionaries. And if, in this process of sound neologisation, our transatlantic brethren shall not choose to accompany us, we may furnish, after the Ionians, a second example of a colonial dialect improving on it's primitive.
—Thomas Jefferson, American politician, statesman, and writer, letter to John Waldo, 1820
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MORE SPECIFIC ON WHICH TYPE OF SUPPS?
I BUY PRE-WO'S FOR THE ENERGY CAUSE IM DEAD SOMETIMES, I BUY PROTEIN POWDER SOMETIMES...RARELY THO. AND I BUY BCAAS.
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Yet I have no hesitation in saying that the English language is founded on a broader base [than the French], native and adopted, and capable, with the like freedom of employing its materials, of becoming superior to that in copiousness and euphony. Not indeed by holding fast to Johnson's Dictionary; not by raising a hue and cry against every word he has not licensed; but by encouraging and welcoming new compositions of its elements.
—Thomas Jefferson, American politician, statesman, and writer, letter to John Waldo, 1813
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Supplements are plural. Hulkotron is correct.
Example:
"All those cars look cool!"
"Yes, they is".
^^ This is wrong.
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Supplements are plural. Hulkotron is correct.
Example:
"All those cars look cool!"
"Yes, they is".
^^ This is wrong.
I doubt you would tell anyone with a Tidewater Dialect that as this is directly from the Aristocratic Old South Planters.
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The majority of my supplements grow from my garden outside. I take the herb, dry it out, and either encapsulate or make a tea out of it depending on what it is. Of course, I still take basic items such as a multi-vitamin and B-12 for energy and illness prevention. I sell them because I have bills to pay.
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What in the blue hell are you yammering about?
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the only suplement that works is creatine and caffeine. Creatine only gorges your muscles fibers with water and mostly like steroids when you stop them you lose all the fake bloat.
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I doubt you would tell anyone with a Tidewater Dialect that as this is directly from the Aristocratic Old South Planters.
That sounds fancy, but back it up with links and facts. Thanks.
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What in the blue hell are you yammering about?
I am yammering about the fact that dunderheads, such as yourself, regularly dump half rate substances down their gullets with the high hopes of harboring some sort of magic from their ingestion in order to build a muscle and yet nothing ever happens.
So what is your excuse, since the muscles are absent and the claimed effects missing from your entire body?
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That sounds fancy, but back it up with links and facts. Thanks.
TA is the link posting queen
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That sounds fancy, but back it up with links and facts. Thanks.
Back up the Tidewater accent? Well why don`t you just come down for a visit and sees it for yourself?
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TA is the link posting queen
We'll see. And I am the link reading King. I'll read every fucking word of the links he posts.
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Back up the Tidewater accent? Well why don`t you just come down for a visit and sees it for yourself?
Are you drunk? We're talking about proper English with the use of plurality. WTF are you talking about Tidewater shit? Seriously? ???
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We also speak Virginia Piedmont and mix the Tidewater in when necessary. The Virginia Piedmont dialect is possibly the most famous of Southern dialects because of its strong influence on speech patterns of the South. Because the dialect has long been associated with the upper or aristocratic plantation class in the Old South, many of the most important figures in Southern history spoke with a Virginia Piedmont accent. Virginia Piedmont is non-rhotic, meaning speakers pronounce "R" only if it is followed by a vowel.
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We also speak Virginia Piedmont and mix the Tidewater in when necessary. The Virginia Piedmont dialect is possibly the most famous of Southern dialects because of its strong influence on speech patterns of the South. Because the dialect has long been associated with the upper or aristocratic plantation class in the Old South, many of the most important figures in Southern history spoke with a Virginia Piedmont accent. Virginia Piedmont is non-rhotic, meaning speakers pronounce "R" only if it is followed by a vowel.
And this means you don't understand basic English. Got it. Well communicated. Have a nice night. Eat a Whopper for me. ;)
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Are you drunk? We're talking about proper English with the use of plurality. WTF are you talking about Tidewater shit? Seriously? ???
http://www.ncsu.edu/linguistics/ncllp/dialectquiz.php
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Bullshit link. I can post bullshit links all day long and think I look cool and look like a know something. Oh brother.. ::)
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And this means you don't understand basic English. Got it. Well communicated. Have a nice night. Eat a Whopper for me. ;)
Incorrect. What it means is we have our own way of communicating and the commoners do have a hard time with understanding it. Which is certainly fine.
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Bullshit link. I can post bullshit links all day long and think I look cool and look like a know something. Oh brother.. ::)
Perhaps you are not understanding or aware of the different dialects and versions of English that exist. If I say Y`all needn`t be concerned with such provocations by yours truly....It is doubtful to whom or which you`d think I`d be referring to.
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Adam are you an Atheist? Just wondering
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Adam are you an Atheist? Just wondering
The staunchest Atheist you`ll ever find. Hasn`t that been quite the obvious? ???
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TA you can blather any which way you want sugarplum, there aint nobody listenin ;)
On topic: I keep a tun of whey handy for when I'm in a hurry, or can't face another eggwhite.
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TA you can blather any which way you want sugarplum, there aint nobody listenin ;)
On topic: I keep a tun of whey handy for when I'm in a hurry, or can't face another eggwhite.
Why must you eat so often and where are you exactly going (the Congo I assume?) that food is not readily available?
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The staunchest Atheist you`ll ever find. Hasn`t that been quite the obvious? ???
Same here. I was pretty sure you were, I've not been on here a lot lately and just wanted to verify. People of your intelligence often don't believe in magical men in the sky.
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Bullshit link. I can post bullshit links all day long and think I look cool and look like a know something. Oh brother.. ::)
Think of the English Language as the dish Country Captain (which Jezebelle and I made today). Perhaps that metaphor will aid in your inane query. (I doubt it will because you have not a fucking clue what Country Captain is)
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No there isn`t.
So lowering my cholesterol from 220 to 170 in three months using Red Yeast Rice with no change in diet is useless. ::)
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A true intellectual without a doubt.
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A true intellectual without a doubt.
Thank you my friend, although I find you to be lacking somewhat. Tis no matter as you have the rest of your life to play catch-up.
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TA, I'm a regional food nut. Last year I took a trip to Kentucky to sample the many varieties of Hot Browns, I sampled fifteen in different restaurants throughout the state. Next month I'm likely to make passage to North Carolina to sample the barbecue. Do you have any suggestions for must visit stops? My only requirement is that there is a diversity in the preparation of the food.
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I am sure he is tearing up those smith machine squats. Anyone who'd post a pic squatting on a smith machine is a tard.
BOOM BITCHES!!! I did 475 for 5 the other day to 4 weeks out... Too bad im still fat :(
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That was The Leafy Bug. You must have a rather poor "photographic" memory.
He has a poopagraphic memory ;D
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Perhaps you are not understanding or (unnecessary, doesnt add anything) aware of the different dialects and versions (repetitive, unecessary) of English that exist. If I say Y`all needn`t be concerned with such provocations by yours truly....It is doubtful to whom or which you`d think I`d be referring to(unnecessary).
your a great writer but dont fall in love with yourself to the point that you write words for the sake of words. be concise.
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BOOM BITCHES!!! I did 475 for 5 the other day to 4 weeks out... Too bad im still fat :(
can't see your pic, Leafy. Please tell me you don't squat on a smith machine?
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can't see your pic, Leafy. Please tell me you don't squat on a smith machine?
Are you seriously going to argue that he has not developed adequate quadriceps? ???
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your a great writer but dont fall in love with yourself to the point that you write words for the sake of words. be concise.
Says the man who thinks "your" is "you're"
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your a great writer but dont fall in love with yourself to the point that you write words for the sake of words. be concise.
That is sort of his schtick here though.
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Says the man who thinks "your" is "you're"
Its called a neologism, professor adonis just teached a lesson on that, hope this helps.
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Its called a neologism, professor adonis just teached a lesson on that, hope this helps.
It's improper I tells ya :D
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Its called a neologism, professor adonis just teached a lesson on that, hope this helps.
"taught"
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"taught"
Nothing wrong with using teached whatsoever.
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Nothing wrong with using teached whatsoever.
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LOL this thread makes my brain hurt, what's going on
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can't see your pic, Leafy. Please tell me you don't squat on a smith machine?
Of course. The smith machine is a great way to squat!
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"taught"
Neologism again bro, nothing to do with the fact that Im a native portuguese speaker postig from a cellphone making some fuckups
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Neologism again bro, nothing to do with the fact that Im a native portuguese speaker postig from a cellphone making some fuckups
I'm pretty sure 'taught' is not a neologism. ;)
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So where do you draw the line between a "neologism" and the rape of the English language?
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So where do you draw the line between a "neologism" and the rape of the English language?
When you have a word that is farther from the pale than 'taught!?' ;D
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So where do you draw the line between a "neologism" and the rape of the English language?
You can`t as there are no firm rules that must be adhered to. If you were to read anything from the 17th or 16th century, it is doubtful you would understand it its entirety if you were to use your current standard. Languages are a fluid thing, meant to ebb and flow, they are not meant to be a stagnant pool of limited words and ideas.
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I take supplements to improve my vocabulary and grammar.
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We need to teach Latin and the classics in inner city schools.
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I take supplements to improve my vocabulary and grammar.
Finally an answer spoken with iron-clad truth and impenetrable clarity!
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You can`t as there are no firm rules that must be adhered to. If you were to read anything from the 17th or 16th century, it is doubtful you would understand it its entirety if you were to use your current standard. Languages are a fluid thing, meant to ebb and flow, they are not meant to be a stagnant pool of limited words and ideas.
Absolutely.
Perhaps.
So true.
/i like and use the oxford comma, tho i see how it can be ill-used
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Absolutely.
Perhaps.
So true.
/i like and use the oxford comma, tho i see how it can be ill-used
So do you too, where you perceive them thick. they Getbiggers that is, not thy regal ones us being so.
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Speaking of raping language, this thread title could be sneakishly "mod-ified" to Why do people still use dictionaries if you can break all the rules?
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So do you too, where you perceive them thick. they Getbiggers that is, not thy regal ones us being so.
Ha! My claims to a mantle royal may be thin, but if you have space beside the hearth it would be my pleasure.
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Speaking of raping language, this thread title could be sneakishly "mod-ified" to Why do people still use dictionaries if you can break all the rules?
http://fora.tv/2008/09/12/Steven_Pinker_The_Stuff_of_Thought#fullprogram
Click that and then click number 9-Adherence to Grammar Rules.
Steven Pinker, who happens to be the Chairman of the American Heritage Dictionary on Usage and the Oxford Dictionary, will explain to you fully why these rules are not finite and why they do not mean a thing.
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A recommendation.
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How does language work? How do children learn their mother tongue? Why do languages change over time, making Chaucer's English almost incomprehensible? Steven Pinker explains the profound mysteries of language by picking a deceptively simple single phenomenon and examining it from every angle. That phenomenon - the existence of regular and irregular verbs - connects an astonishing array of topics in the sciences and humanities: the history of languages; the illuminating errors of children as they begin to speak; the sources of the major themes in the history of Western philosophy; the latest techniques in identifying genes and imaging the living brain. Pinker makes sense of all of this with the help of a single, powerful idea: that language comprises a mental dictionary of memorized words and a mental grammar of creative rules
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Why Take Dietary Supplements?
There is no question that as we enter the new millennium, the fast-paced, stress-producing lifestyle and micro-nutrient-depleted diet of the 21st Century sets the stage for chronic disease.
Research documents nutrient deficiencies through over-consumption of refined foods and a lack of specific nutrients in virtually every age group. Nutritional supplements may help prevent these deficiencies, possibly reducing the risk to chronic diseases such as cancer, cardiovascular disease, cataracts, diabetes, hyperinsulinism, inflammatory disorders and osteoporosis. These chronic diseases will increase with our aging population and will continue to stress our over-burdened health care system into the new millennium and beyond.
Research suggests taking certain nutrients may help reduce the risk to several common diseases, including:
· Birth Defects - Folic acid in particular and to a lesser degree vitamin B6, vitamin B12 and antioxidants are important in reducing the risk to birth defects, especially neural tube defects.
· Bone Loss - Osteoporosis is the end stage of bone loss. Osteopenia is the process of losing bone mass and occurs in both men and women, beginning as early as adolescence. Peak bone mass occurs between 20-30 years of age. Nutrients important in slowing or reversing bone loss are calcium, magnesium, copper, boron, silicon, manganese, zinc and vitamins B6, B12, C, D and K and omega-3 fatty acids.
· Blood Sugar Abnormalities and Hyperinsulinism - When there is too much blood sugar (diabetes) or insulin (the hormone that puts sugar into the cell to be used for energy = insulin resistance), there is an increased risk to eye, heart, inflammatory, kidney and nerve problems as well as obesity. Reducing the consumption of high-glycemic-index foods (foods that rapidly convert to glucose, and elevate blood sugar), weight loss and intramyocellular fat (fat in the cell), along with exercise and tailored nutritional supplementation, including antioxidants, chromium, magnesium and vanadium, may help normalize blood sugar and insulin levels, reducing the risk to the adverse effects of poor blood sugar control.
· Cancer - Antioxidants previously mentioned, along with vitamin D and omega-3:6 fatty acid balance, may help reduce the risk to cancer.
· Cardiovascular Disease - Antioxidants, in conjunction with vitamins B1, B6, B12, D, K, folic acid, chromium, potassium and especially magnesium and omega-3 fatty acids, appear to have cardioprotective properties.
· Homocysteine Elevation - Elevated levels of homocysteine (a sulphur-containing amino acid) are associated with heart disease, stroke, birth defects, gynecologic and neurologic disorders. The levels of vitamin B6 (40 mg), B12 (300 mcg) and folic acid (400 mcg) in the Daily MultiVitamin/Mineral can help lower homocysteine levels. It has not been proven yet that normalizing homocysteine levels will limit these diseases.
The best way to use the Daily MultiVitamin/Mineral is in conjunction with a regular exercise program and a whole food diet. Exercise helps control blood sugar, maintain weight and improve mood. It is also important to consume a diet rich in plant-based foods, including vegetables, fruits and low glycemic complex carbohydrates (legumes), nuts and seeds, which contain many additional micronutrients not found in nutritional supplements. An attitude that acknowledges that there are some things that cannot be changed, and looks for the positive aspects of life’s experiences, and, a daily sense of purpose are present in many healthy aging individuals.
Virtually everyone has a family history that includes a chronic illness such as heart disease, diabetes or cancer. You may be concerned that you carry a genetic predisposition to one or more of these diseases. But recent science has shown there’s much you can do to prevent disease, starting with nutrition. The good news is that with optimal nutrition, including dietary supplements, you can rewrite your life story with a happier ending.
Much has been made in the news recently about whether taking a daily multivitamin/mineral (MVM) is a good or a bad idea. Since half of all Americans are already taking MVM’s, the National Institute of Health decided to convene a panel to come to some consensus as to whether this practice is safe and effective against chronic diseases.
There are always two sides to a good debate, and trying to give Americans a one-size-fits-all solution in the form of a multivitamin is no one’s idea of a solution. But one thing I do know from my own clinical experience is that a daily, top-of-the-line multivitamin will not harm you, and it may do you a world of good. At my practice and on a personal level, I see on a regular basis the dramatic positive effect taking a good multivitamin has had on my patients, my family, and my friends.
So why are so many people still unaware of the importance of taking vitamins? Which vitamins do you need and what are the best multivitamins to take? Why are drug companies and doctors often opposed to nutritional supplements? Why is there continued debate over vitamin safety and dosages?
Let’s look at this topic in light of recent studies so that you can take an informed approach.
If you read the NIH panel’s state-of-the-science statement, you’ll see that the findings are inconclusive and that they requested more studies. The mainstream media has spun this to read that the NIH panel’s findings were “insufficient” to recommend multivitamins to the general population. In fact, the panel made no such claim — their own press release simply urged “a more informed approach.” At Women to Women, an informed approach is our standard protocol, including any and all uses of dietary supplements.
We’ve used nutritional supplements and dietary changes as medical therapies for over 20 years. To this day we recommend that every woman take a pharmaceutical-grade vitamin. Yet we agree there are reasons to be concerned about how multivitamins are marketed and used. So let’s talk about what we advocate when it comes to dietary supplements and how we answer women’s questions about the vitamin controversy.
The link between nutrition and chronic diseases
The increase in chronic illnesses is one of the major health stories of our lifetimes. Today seven out of ten Americans will die from the complications of a chronic disease, including heart disease, cancer, obesity, diabetes, depression, metabolic and digestive disorders (including heartburn and acid reflux), rheumatoid arthritis, fibroids, and osteoporosis, to name a few.
(Acute diseases, by contrast, are characterized by rapid onset, are usually treated with antibiotics or surgery and are time-limited.)
Why the dramatic increase in chronic diseases? Clearly we are living longer, and many of us under greater stress, both of which contribute to degenerative conditions. But only recently has the role of nutrition begun to be given its due.
Conventional practitioners treat chronic diseases with an ever-growing array of expensive pharmaceuticals that may temporarily relieve the painful or uncomfortable symptoms, but do nothing to resolve the underlying cause — and may actually cause other serious problems. That’s because conventional medicine is focused on disease screening and drug treatment — ignoring the more powerful approach of disease prevention, especially through nutrition.
What about the role of genetic factors in causing disease? In our view, genetics rarely determine definitively that someone will develop a disease. Instead, you may inherit a genetic predisposition — a kind of vulnerability — that when combined with other factors results in disease. Nutrition is arguably the most important of those factors.
Many of our patients at our medical practice are surprised to learn that their chronic condition or disease can so often be traced to a nutritional deficiency. But the linkage is clear enough. Nutrition affects our immune system, organ function, hormonal balance and cellular metabolism. The nutritional deficiency comes first, followed some years later by symptoms, which lead in time to disease. To make things worse, the whole downward spiral is accompanied by accelerated aging.
Multivitamins and hormonal balance
Our bodies require micronutrients for the non-stop process of synthesizing hormones from simpler molecules. It is simply impossible to achieve and maintain hormonal balance without such support. We have found it helpful to describe hormonal balance to our patients as a kind of symphony in their bodies in which the instruments of the orchestra play together to create health. When some of the players aren’t there, it doesn’t sound right — and you don’t feel good.
Remember that our hormones fluctuate with our circumstances. Cortisol and adrenaline levels rise and fall as we work out stressful situations. Stable insulin levels provide the framework that allows all of our major female hormones to communicate with one another. If nutrients are low or missing, the balance of this communication is undermined. To remain flexible and strong, especially when approaching menopause, we all need to give our hormones the wide array of nutrients they need.
Is it any wonder that so many women wake up to their health problems at mid-life? That’s the really positive change we see in perimenopause and menopause — women wake up to the choices that have given rise to their symptoms, such as poor nutrition — and then take control of their health. Improving dietary choices is a good start, but you need a pharmaceutical-grade vitamin, too. Let’s find out why.
Why ordinary nutrition isn’t enough
Americans appear to be so well fed, it seems impossible that we aren’t getting enough nutrients. But study after study has shown that most of us don’t get adequate amounts of key vitamins and minerals. One of the consequences is the increase in chronic diseases. Beyond that, many of us are living longer, but feeling worse: our quality of life is suffering as we age. We are also seeing chronic diseases manifest in younger and younger people — children are now routinely seen with “adult” diseases like diabetes and high blood pressure — which arise from the insulin resistance caused by modern diets.
How can it be true that ordinary nutrition is not enough? It’s partly a quantity-versus-quality problem. Most of us aren’t eating enough of the right things. We eat a lot of what I would call non-food: fast food, over-processed food, food with highly refined sugar, simple carbohydrates, preservatives, and large quantities of trans fats. We ingest stimulants that actually get in the way of our bodies’ ability to absorb vitamins and minerals.
Another reason is that our fishing and farming methods have changed drastically. In the past our harvests fully embodied the vital nutrients of the soil and sea, and those nutrients nourished us fully. Now we pump pesticides, inorganic feeds and fertilizers, and waste–treated water to grow a lot of food quickly and cheaply in soil and water that would otherwise be unable to support life. These practices produce crops that are big and colorful but nutritionally depleted, sometimes harmful, and mostly tasteless, too! (Think of what store-bought tomatoes taste like now compared to when you were a child.)
Research has verified that crops cultivated using organic methods are not only free of the toxins our bodies don’t need, but superior in the micronutrients we do. For example, routine application of organophosphate fertilizers over the past 50 years has decreased the calcium content of conventionally grown broccoli to one-sixth what was it was in the 1950’s. But until we as a society put our money where our mouths are and wholly support sustainable agriculture, the benefits of organic food will remain available only at a premium to the determined few. And in the meantime, doesn’t it seem like supplements are an affordable stop-gap?
We also import our food from vast distances, so it must be variously wrapped, coated and sprayed chemically to keep it from spoiling. We buy lettuce in a bag because it’s easier than washing it. But did you know that pre-bagged salad greens go through “post-harvest processing” in which the greens are exposed to a variety of gases before the bag is sealed to ensure crispness for weeks? (These gases, by the way, are not required to be disclosed as preservatives.) By the time you make your salad, the vital enzyme activity of those greens is only a memory. It may seem like a generalization, but buying local food in season, when you can, makes good sense.
Another factor is dieting for weight loss. Almost half of all American women are on some kind of diet at any given time. Many of these diets rob the body of vital nutrients. And yo-yo dieting (weight loss followed by weight gain, and then another cycle of weight loss) is a major source of stress for our bodies.
The link between stress and nutrition
On top of our questionable diet, our bodies face an onslaught of external stressors that are beyond our control. Whether environmental or emotional, these stresses are far beyond what our bodies were designed to deal with — and they increase the gap between our bodies’ nutritional needs and the vitamins and minerals that are available in our diets.
Let’s start with the environmental issues. Toxic chemicals, air pollution, radiation, artificial polymers, hormones in our meat and dairy, and pesticides and chlorine in our drinking water are just a few of the man-made hazards we all face. Fast-food hamburgers have been shown to contain traces of over 100 pesticides. Even the common practice of microwaving in plastic containers imbues our food with toxins. From whatever the source, these chemicals burden our liver with the task of detoxifying, a process that uses up some of our stores of essential nutrients.
We also have the extraordinary stresses of everyday life: children, spouses, work, friends, parents — a host of obligations and expectations! Stress has been shown to deplete nutrients and suppress immune function. That’s in part because stress produces cortisol, and sustained high levels of cortisol are very detrimental to the body and the brain. It’s why we see so many women in our clinic with adrenal fatigue. And there’s no doubt in my mind that the level of stress women deal with today is unprecedented.
So stress compounds the insult of poor nutrition in the modern diet. If the deficiency is sudden we can get very sick very quickly. But more often the nutritional deficiency wears us down bit by bit, and we slowly, steadily deteriorate. Eventually we show signs of accelerated aging and chronic disease. This is why so many of us crash and burn in perimenopause. Our problems will persist and likely worsen unless and until we consistently get the essential nutrients we need. This is why nutritional supplements can make such a dramatic difference for women at mid-life.
The role of nutritional supplements
Between the poor nutritional quality of our diets and the nutritional burdens added by modern stressors, you can understand why we tell every woman who walks through our doors that she should be taking pharmaceutical-grade vitamins every day. This small step translates into a huge leap for our bodies, which after all are miraculously good at healing injury and preventing illness if they are given adequate support.
And mainstream medicine is beginning to catch on. A 2002 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association stated that a lack of certain vitamins “is a risk factor for chronic diseases and common in the general population.” The report continues, “Most people do not consume an optimal amount of all vitamins by diet alone. It appears prudent for all adults to take vitamin supplements.”
So why don’t we all know this? Well, as many as half of us already take some form of dietary supplement. So the obvious question is: Why don’t the other half take multivitamins too? The less obvious question is just as important: Why aren’t the people who do take multivitamins clearly healthier than those who don’t?
Many people don’t take multivitamins because they believe that doctors oppose dietary supplements. Their doctors may have discouraged them from using supplements in the past. In fact, there are good reasons why doctors are often hesitant to endorse the use of dietary supplements, and it is a good idea to understand why. Click here to read about the reasons doctors are concerned about dietary supplements.
Remember also that not all nutritional supplements are alike. This is one reason doctors are so skeptical about their use. Please click here to learn how to choose a multivitamin.
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Speaking of raping language, this thread title could be sneakishly "mod-ified" to Why do people still use dictionaries if you can break all the rules?
Language always comes down to whether the 'message' has been communicated. If it has, well done. After that, one can be pedantic - as we are wont to do. You can be 'snobby' and earth-bound like me in your use of words, or you can flit and fly like a Nabokov, to whom there are no limits to the word's range. :)
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A recommendation.
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How does language work? How do children learn their mother tongue? Why do languages change over time, making Chaucer's English almost incomprehensible? Steven Pinker explains the profound mysteries of language by picking a deceptively simple single phenomenon and examining it from every angle. That phenomenon - the existence of regular and irregular verbs - connects an astonishing array of topics in the sciences and humanities: the history of languages; the illuminating errors of children as they begin to speak; the sources of the major themes in the history of Western philosophy; the latest techniques in identifying genes and imaging the living brain. Pinker makes sense of all of this with the help of a single, powerful idea: that language comprises a mental dictionary of memorized words and a mental grammar of creative rules
More like Peven Stinker
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http://fora.tv/2008/09/12/Steven_Pinker_The_Stuff_of_Thought#fullprogram
Click that and then click number 9-Adherence to Grammar Rules.
Steven Pinker, who happens to sit on the board of the Oxford Dictionary, will explain to you fully why these rules are not finite and why they do not mean a thing.
Not contradicting you actually. I understand that language is an everchanging/fluent thing. No right or wrong per say, just the consensus...
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Nothing wrong with MRP's or protein replacement when you can't get all whole food meal in.
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I take fish oil, starflower oil and creatine(creapure). That's it.
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Language always comes down to whether the 'message' has been communicated. If it has, well done. After that, one can be pedantic - as we are wont to do. You can be 'snobby' and earth-bound like me in your use of words, or you can flit and fly like a Nabokov, to whom there are no limits to the word's range. :)
I just re-read Lolita recently. I always seem to come back to it when I am in transition of not knowing what to read next. Right now I am reading another Gore Vidal, The Smithsonian Institute and after that I have an Elmore Leonard book, When the Women Come out to Dance.
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I just re-read Lolita recently. I always seem to come back to it when I am in transition of not knowing what to read next. Right now I am reading another Gore Vidal, The Smithsonian Institute and after that I have an Elmore Leonard book, When the Women Come out to Dance.
TA have you ever read The Stand by Stephen King? Great book.
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Nothing wrong with MRP's or protein replacement when you can't get all whole food meal in.
That still does not answer the "why" of the matter. What is someone looking for precisely in accomplishing with a supplement?
I personally think the placebo effect of it would certainly outweigh and trump the claimed effect (which it most likely does not meet or live up to). Therefore I have to conclude that supplements are marketed to those who are either fear based or uncertain or both.
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Won't look at at this thread on the computer (due to losers hacking it) but going through this thread on my phone, it looks like TA is as well versed in supps and nutrition as he is in politics. Gotta laugh at the "commmoner" comment, as if he we're brought up in "high class". Hahahahaha. If he were anymore he wouldn't be posting on getbig with multiple accounts and doing interviews with oiled up men in thongs....if the "upper class" ever found out they would find it "appalling". Hahahahaha, what a twit!
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TA have you ever read The Stand by Stephen King? Great book.
I`ll have to. I read Christine because I had a 1960 Plymouth Fury although the one in the book is a 1958. I have read Nightmares and Dreamscapes and The Dark Tower Series. I need to read more King. Oh and I read The Regulators, under his pseudonym of Richard Bachman.
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I`ll have to. I read Christine because I had a 1960 Plymouth Fury although the one in the book is a 1958. I have read Nightmares and Dreamscapes and The Dark Tower Series. I need to read more King. Oh and I read The Regulators, under his pseudonym of Richard Bachman.
I look forward to your review 8)
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I just re-read Lolita recently. I always seem to come back to it when I am in transition of not knowing what to read next. Right now I am reading another Gore Vidal, The Smithsonian Institute and after that I have an Elmore Leonard book, When the Women Come out to Dance.
Ha! There's a lightness of touch/irony in Lolita that is absolutely brilliant. It's like Nabokov is laughing the whole book through, his prose touch is so light and comical - just daring us to call him out, but we can't because he remains always just out of reach. A book Coach would want to burn. And Nabokov is not even a born English speaker! Just like Joseph Conrad. Grrr.
/finished reading 'hell at the breech' by tom franklin. superb. but lacks the mythological and meta-everything reach of cormac mccarthy.
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Ha! There's a lightness of touch/irony in Lolita that is absolutely brilliant. It's like Nabokov is laughing the whole book through, his prose touch is so light and comical - just daring us to call him out, but we can't because he remains always just out of reach. A book Coach would want to burn. And Nabokov is not even a born English speaker! Just like Joseph Conrad. Grrr.
/finished reading 'hell at the breech' by tom franklin. superb. but lacks the mythological and meta-everything reach of cormac mccarthy.
Outed.
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Outed.
For what, reading? ;D
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For what, reading? ;D
Average getbigger is to use his bookshelf as an action figure showcase.
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Fiber supps are very usefull...
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I`ll have to. I read Christine because I had a 1960 Plymouth Fury although the one in the book is a 1958. I have read Nightmares and Dreamscapes and The Dark Tower Series. I need to read more King. Oh and I read The Regulators, under his pseudonym of Richard Bachman.
ever read jack vance?
'jack vance is one of the greatest image-makers of english letters'
frank herbert
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Fiber supps are very usefull...
thats called food
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Fiber supps are very usefull...
Gayer than orange mocha frappuccino.
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Gayer than orange mocha frappuccino.
;D
"latte"
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;D
"latte"
;D ;D ;D :D
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What we've seen here is a good case study in why the American South is overweight, poorly educated, low in socioeconomic status, and in general the armpit of the country by whatever metric to wish to use.
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Gayer than orange mocha frappuccino.
ORANGE is always as straight as the shortest spatial distance between your cock and your arsehole !!!
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I always like the "clinical studies" line of bullshit. Where is this clinic? Maybe it's in the closet of a shoe store in Bulgaria.
Let's call supplement advertisements what they are. A bunch of lies to con insecure young men. Every guy on their glossy ad in on steroids. I can't believe how expensive some of this stuff is.
Sports Illustrated once did an expose' on supplements. They found among other things that most of the materials are from the same sources. You can have 10 different whey protein companies using the same whey from the same supplier. I still don't know why whey is so expensive. It use to be thrown out in the manufacture of cheese. Some of the supplement's fancy bottles with slick labels are put together in a guy's garage. One supplement owner actually said that the containers and labels cost more than what is in it. They also said some supplements secretly had derivatives of testosterone in them in the past.
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What we've seen here is a good case study in why the American South is overweight, poorly educated, low in socioeconomic status, and in general the armpit of the country by whatever metric to wish to use.
Says the 30-40 year old perpetual apartment dweller who thinks decorating is putting a lava lamp over the "Econo-Fridge" which also happens to house his vast collection of Ezekiel Breads. You have nothing, no land, no house, no savings (no future worth living). Your existence is contained within a Vinyl-Sided palace and the only companions you DO have are the Hot Pocket bread crumbs on your micro-sueded coffee colored sectional from the Super Bowl 5 months ago. Trust me when I say this, you lead a miserable life and you have nothing at this point to show for it.
If you are happy with this state, by all means continue and disregard the above.....However, don`t ever sugar coat what it is "Hulkotron" or you may never find your way out of the plastic prison.
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TA, I'm a regional food nut. Last year I took a trip to Kentucky to sample the many varieties of Hot Browns, I sampled fifteen in different restaurants throughout the state. Next month I'm likely to make passage to North Carolina to sample the barbecue. Do you have any suggestions for must visit stops? My only requirement is that there is a diversity in the preparation of the food.
Hello my friend,
It will all depend on where you are planning to travel through. You will have either Eastern or Western style to choose from and Pit Cooked or Oven Roasted which is either entire shoulder or entire hog. East or West, what you ideally want is Pit Cooked, Hickory fire cooked. I recommend the Skylight Inn in Ayden, Stamey`s in Greensboro, and Lexington BBQ, in Lexington. You will pleased with all of the above. Don`t forget to order Hush Puppies.
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I always keep an Animal Pak in my pocket....if someone is using a bench or machine I want I just open the pack and eat them while staring.....machine empties quick!
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*Wolf whistle* :o
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why does j rod still eat chicken breast and oats?
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why does j rod still eat chicken breast and oats?
Because he likes to lose to competitors who have been competing for less than a year.
@ 2:55 mark
http://rxmuscle.com/videos/c-interviews/3655-kingsley-deslorieux-luis-santiago-shaun-clarida-a-bill-moschelle-after-winning-their-weight-class-at-2011-npc-team-universe-.html
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TA have you ever read The Stand by Stephen King? Great book.
I've read it probably 4 times. Excellent book overall
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TA, where are you from? You mention Tidewater, I am from that area in Va.
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Says the 30-40 year old perpetual apartment dweller who thinks decorating is putting a lava lamp over the "Econo-Fridge" which also happens to house his vast collection of Ezekiel Breads. You have nothing, no land, no house, no savings (no future worth living). Your existence is contained within a Vinyl-Sided palace and the only companions you DO have are the Hot Pocket bread crumbs on your micro-sueded coffee colored sectional from the Super Bowl 5 months ago. Trust me when I say this, you lead a miserable life and you have nothing at this point to show for it.
If you are happy with this state, by all means continue and disregard the above.....However, don`t ever sugar coat what it is "Hulkotron" or you may never find your way out of the plastic prison.
I'm actually quite happy with my life. I have a nice gf who loves me, four college degrees in my chosen field of study including a Ph.D., a good job in that field, no debt other than my mortgage on the home I own, thousands of dollars in savings and financial investments, and a better physique than you. What about you, "big" "guy"? Happy to post photographic evidence on any of these topics as soon as you do. What have you ever done with your life that is so grand?
I won't hold my breath.
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I'm actually quite happy with my life. I have a nice gf who loves me, four college degrees in my chosen field of study including a Ph.D., a good job in that field, no debt other than my mortgage on the home I own, thousands of dollars in savings and financial investments, and a better physique than you. What about you, "big" "guy"? Happy to post photographic evidence on any of these topics as soon as you do. What have you ever done with your life that is so grand?
I won't hold my breath.
Cool. Subject area? Thesis topic?
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Cool. Subject area? Thesis topic?
Kinesiology. I work on locomotion (walking, running, etc.) and knee osteoarthritis at the moment.
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Kinesiology. I work on locomotion (walking, running, etc.) and knee osteoarthritis at the moment.
Post your house so I can have a great laugh. We can start there if you like.
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Kinesiology. I work on locomotion (walking, running, etc.) and knee osteoarthritis at the moment.
Takes me back. I dated a girl who went to Waterloo for Kine. She broke my heart. I recovered. Loved the ducks on the river. ;D
/what was your thesis? title?
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Pressed for time? You mean they go 24 hours and more without the ability to go to McDonalds at least? Thats the shittiest excuse I have ever heard you incorrigible moron. Seriously.
Adonis I don't understand you at all!
First you start a tread about how useless the supplements are , and after you recommend to eat at McDonalds to people who are pressed for time in order to have a quick meal.
Do you realize that supplements are SHIT (useless garbage) and McDonalds is UBER-SHIT (poisoning garbage for the body)! ::)
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I'm actually quite happy with my life. I have a nice gf who loves me, four college degrees in my chosen field of study including a Ph.D., a good job in that field, no debt other than my mortgage on the home I own, thousands of dollars in savings and financial investments, and a better physique than you. What about you, "big" "guy"? Happy to post photographic evidence on any of these topics as soon as you do. What have you ever done with your life that is so grand?
I won't hold my breath.
You are 6 foot 185 I presume?
Well I don`t think you have bested this. Post up.
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Post your house so I can have a great laugh. We can start there if you like.
LOL........what in the hell does that have to do with anything? How about this. You tell us what kind of "work" you do, what you're salary is and if you can actually afford the house you claim is yours without the aid of a trust fund.
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I don't know if there will ever be a day when there are no more supplements, but most of us who have been at this a long time don't take supplements anymore. What you realize is that you look the same as you did before. Newbies and young people are the target of the supplement business.
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You are 6 foot 185 I presume?
Well I don`t think you have bested this. Post up.
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Post a current pic, not one from 5 years ago.
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Because they've been brainwashed into believing they do something for their bodies for years and years. It still happens to this day, supplement companies are always finding new ways to "market" their placebos and getting people to naively waste their money on them.
supplements=crap.
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You are 6 foot 185 I presume?
Well I don`t think you have bested this. Post up.
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Listen to me Adonis!
You look good for a natural, you are lean and muscular but you would look and feel even better if you were eating fresh fruit ,fresh vegetable,lean cut of fresh meat and fish,fresh eggs! ;)
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Post a current pic, not one from 5 years ago.
Yeah, I remember seeing that top pic in like 2006
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Listen to me Adonis!
You look good for a natural, you are lean and muscular but you would look and feel even better if you were eating fresh fruit ,fresh vegetable,lean cut of fresh meat and fish,fresh eggs! ;)
I eat everything and do get a lot of things from farms. I ate a whole branch of Cherries earlier today when I was outside.
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Post a current pic, not one from 5 years ago.
Those are not five years old and furthermore, I look exactly the same. There is really no point in posting another picture if I look the same.
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Those are not five years old and furthermore, I look exactly the same. There is really no point in posting another picture if I look the same.
Hahahahahahahahaha yeah right. Post a current pic holding todays newspaper and if you look exactly like that I'll leave this site forever.
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supplements are great and i never want to stop using them.
i love pre workout supps.
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Hahahahahahahahaha yeah right. Post a current pic holding todays newspaper and if you look exactly like that I'll leave this site forever.
What's the matter Adam, aren't up to the challenge? You are a huge fraud and have been posting lies about yourself for years and you throw up the same old pics from years ago. Saying you look the same so no need to post a current pic is such a cop out and proves you DO NOT look like that. PROVE ME WRONG AND I'LL LEAVE!!!!!!
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I eat everything and do get a lot of things from farms. I ate a whole branch of Cherries earlier today when I was outside.
Good for you Adonis!
But if you want to indulge sametime , feel guilty of pleasure and have a burger at fast food I recommend you to try IN AND OUT or FAT BURGER , they are not much healtier than McDonalds but at least you will eat better and fresher burgers that taste 1000 time better! 8)
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Those are not five years old and furthermore, I look exactly the same. There is really no point in posting another picture if I look the same.
I can either be shredded or a fat whale in a matter of 3 months.
there is a point in posting another picture actually, no offence
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I can either be shredded or a fat whale in a matter of 3 months.
there is a point in posting another picture actually, no offence
He will NEVER post a pic. He is way too insecure about himself and obviously a liar.
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Cat got your tongue Adam? ;D Here's some pics of you when you were in your bulked up natural phase. ::)
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He will NEVER post a pic. He is way too insecure about himself and obviously a liar.
Get Ron on here to verify that you will be gone forever and I will post a picture.
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Cat got your tongue Adam? ;D Here's some pics of you when you were in your bulked up natural phase. ::)
20-30 percent bodyfat in those pictures, although you`d never know that due to the way I store fat.
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20-30 percent bodyfat in those pictures, although you`d never know that due to the way I store fat.
More looks like a lot of D-Bol bloat going on in those pics
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Get Ron on here to verify that you will be gone forever and I will post a picture.
PM Ron yourself. You are stalling because you are a liar and a fraud. It takes less time to take a pic then to post your so called rebuttals. If you still look like that you should want to prove me wrong. Post a current pic and if you still look like you used to in the pics you posted I am gone, but you NEVER will.
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More looks like a lot of D-Bol bloat going on in those pics
D-bol and or test. He is an insecure liar and a fraud. Rate my body hahahahahahahahaha
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D-bol and or test. He is an insecure liar and a fraud. Rate my body hahahahahahahahaha
Try an abnormal amount of food for 3 years straight. I was obese by choice as I wanted to deadlift 600 which I did.
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Try an abnormal amount of food for 3 years straight. I was obese by choice as I wanted to deadlift 600 which I did.
Clearly an inadequate excuse to hide the lie about your drug abuse. Post your current pic liar!
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Cat got your tongue Adam? ;D Here's some pics of you when you were in your bulked up natural phase. ::)
Looks like a fat sack of shit and now looks like skinny sack of shit.
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LOL didnt know adonis was a cool cat
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Clearly an inadequate excuse to hide the lie about your drug abuse. Post your current pic liar!
You have been beating that broken drum for years now yet you still think it is not discordant. Will you ever learn?
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I think the real question is when are you going to show a little integrity and quit lying?
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You have been beating that broken drum for years now yet you still think it is not discordant. Will you ever learn?
Hahahahahahaahahahahhaaa aaaa you get so flustered when u get caught in your web of lies. Post a curreent pic and I'll leave. You are still a liar and a fraud.
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I think the real question is when are you going to show a little integrity and quit lying?
How about never since I am telling the truth. I cannot help you, if it is your choice in fact to believe otherwise. That is your problem and you are only comfortable with your own prejudicial version anyways so I see it as an exercise in futility.
I hope this helps.
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Hahahahahahaahahahahhaaaaaaa you get so flustered when u get caught in your web of lies. Post a curreent pic and I'll leave. You are still a liar and a fraud.
No you won`t. You will just come up with some nonsensical excuse as to why you are not going to leave. You will most likely provide a few avenues of untruths that you can coast on as to have yourself remain situated in your own piss stained computer chair with Getbig upon your monitor.
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No you won`t. You will just come up with some nonsensical excuse as to why you are not going to leave. You will most likely provide a few avenues of untruths that you can coast on as to have yourself remain situated in your own piss stained computer chair with Getbig upon your monitor.
still more babble to take the attention off your lies. Here's the deal you post a current pic proving me wrong I'll leave forever. Anyone here who knows me knows I keep my word. If I are wrong the you leave.
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no offence to adonis but when you were as lean as in those pictures, you were posting pictures of you non stop in the gym or posting with jezabelle.
it wasn't easier to take pictures back then.
I did the same, I posted pictures in 2008 and I didn't post any until this year because I was fat.
maybe you are not "fat" but I doubt you are in the same condition
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Its a cop out Jim, before he's was more than willing to post shit just to TRY to make a point, now he runs. Living off a trust fund, trys to come off like he's some kind of high-society snob because he can bake some cookies and look up words for him to use and he doesn't even understand himself.
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Its a cop out Jim, before he's was more than willing to post shit just to TRY to make a point, now he runs. Living off a trust fund, trys to come off like he's some kind of high-society snob because he can bake some cookies and look up words for him to use and he doesn't even understand himself.
Spot on and perfectly said, but I would have added delusional.
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LOL........what in the hell does that have to do with anything? How about this. You tell us what kind of "work" you do, what you're salary is and if you can actually afford the house you claim is yours without the aid of a trust fund.
It would also be nice if he'd post a pic from this decade but we all know that will never happen b/c he looks like shit.
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Mrs. Taft cherry blossoms?
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It would also be nice if he'd post a pic from this decade but we all know that will never happen b/c he looks like shit.
I just did.
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I just did.
from a hundred feet away.....
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adonis looking large and lean while dwelling in sublime environs
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his girl friend looks like a closet freak , i bet he washes her face with his balls
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Mrs. Taft cherry blossoms?
Close. I plan to plant a few Yoshino Cherry in the fall. These are Shidarezakura or Weeping Cherries.
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Close. I plan to plant a few Yoshino Cherry in the fall. These are Shidarezakura or Weeping Cherries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_blossom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_blossom)
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Close. I plan to plant a few Yoshino Cherry in the fall. These are Shidarezakura or Weeping Cherries.
rainiers and utah giants are tops
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Disgusted, not disagreeing with you, but what specifically makes you think Adonis has used drugs in the past?
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awesome condition adonis !!!!
abs are tight and veiny as hell
4% bf
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I just did.
False, this pic is zero proof of how you looked years ago. Post a current pic holding todays newspaper (shirt off of course) and if you look like you did in your past pics I will leave this site.
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Disgusted, not disagreeing with you, but what specifically makes you think Adonis has used drugs in the past?
This
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Hello my friend,
It will all depend on where you are planning to travel through. You will have either Eastern or Western style to choose from and Pit Cooked or Oven Roasted which is either entire shoulder or entire hog. East or West, what you ideally want is Pit Cooked, Hickory fire cooked. I recommend the Skylight Inn in Ayden, Stamey`s in Greensboro, and Lexington BBQ, in Lexington. You will pleased with all of the above. Don`t forget to order Hush Puppies.
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Thanks, I appreciate your input and I will add those to the list. I'm flying from here to Hendersonville and then renting a car. I was planning on taking I-40 to Wilmington and then driving 17 down to Savannah and then flying home (after touring the Gulfstream facilities). I have stops in Hilton Head and Topsail but I have three more days to account for and will fill with barbecue.
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Good stuff man. Great looking couple.
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Epic.
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Epic.
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get a fashion advisor
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get a fashion advisor
I had the Jacket made and shipped from London as I am fond of Tweed and the Sweater is Cashmere bespoke and the shoes are Alden Cordovan Horsehide, the tie is Prada. I prefer olde English and olde American to "hip" and "trendy" garbage you see today.
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Hahahaha, classic bullshit.
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I had the Jacket made and shipped from London as I am fond of Tweed and the Sweater is Cashmere bespoke and the shoes are Alden Cordovan Horsehide, the tie is Prada. I prefer olde English and olde American to "hip" and "trendy" garbage you see today.
Separate I'm sure they are all nice pieces..
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I had the Jacket made and shipped from London as I am fond of Tweed and the Sweater is Cashmere bespoke and the shoes are Alden Cordovan Horsehide, the tie is Prada. I prefer olde English and olde American to "hip" and "trendy" garbage you see today.
you look nerdy and those colors are horrible
get some pants in the same color as the jacket and only do one layer underneath it. match your shoes to the under layer.
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jezebell on the other hand looks fabulous and classy.
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UR LUCKY IM NOT AROUND YOUR GIRLFRIEND. ID POUND HER ALL NIGHT LONG, ALL DAY TOO.
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you look nerdy and those colors are horrible
get some pants in the same color as the jacket and only do one layer underneath it. match your shoes to the under layer.
Sorry, thats not the way the English do it. As I said, I prefer heavy English as opposed to light and messy Amero-psuedo Italian. In the first picture, (blue shirt) I antiqued the shoes myself and they are JM Weston. I applied a museum hand rubbed finish to them and sealed them.
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Sounds like you want to be everything but American.
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Sorry, thats not the way the English do it. As I said, I prefer heavy English as opposed to light and messy Amero-psuedo Italian. In the first picture, (blue shirt) I antiqued the shoes myself and they are JM Weston. I applied a museum hand rubbed finish to them and sealed them.
the english suck at everything.. annoyingly poor sense of humor, asexual, bad teeth, bad food, bad weather, ugly scenery, one good band in its entire history, and shitty philosophy as well.
lets see the shoes
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Sounds like you want to be everything but American.
Alden are made in America my friend. One of the last two quality shoes that are made here.
Furthermore, the English style, is in reality, old American style, accentuating heavy, quality fabric, raised seams and quality made goods.
(http://resources.shopstyle.com/sim/6f/c9/6fc9b0f7932dccf5c310f138a422d29b/jos-a-bank-sportcoats-executive-2button-harris-tweed-sportcoat.jpg)
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Pressed for time? You mean they go 24 hours and more without the ability to go to McDonalds at least? Thats the shittiest excuse I have ever heard you incorrigible moron. Seriously.
Yeah, because ordering a double cheeseburgers with potatoes fried in partially hydrogenated oil is just as good as eating a skinless turkey breast with brown rice and broccoli.
And the multiple posters who have corrected you are right: the word supplements is plural and therefeore you should have written "aren't' and not "isn't". It seems like you enjoy taking your revenge for Nature butchering your face before you were born by butchering the English language.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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the english suck at everything.. annoyingly poor sense of humor, asexual, bad teeth, bad food, bad weather, ugly scenery, one good band in its entire history, and shitty philosophy as well.
lets see the shoes
Are you for fucking real?
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Are you for fucking real?
english i take it ? ;D
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You said you dress English-style. Doesn't make any difference whether it was made here, china or the UK.
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Are you for fucking real?
seriously, easily one of the dumbest posts i've read from tbombz.
he's right about the philosophy tho
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seriously, easily one of the dumbest posts i've read from tbombz.
he's right about the philosophy tho
i should add that its not just their teeth thats ugly, but their faces as well.
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Epic.
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That's a handsome Sportcoat, I have one quite similar to it. I've always hoped to have some bespoke clothing to pass on to my children, looks like all they'll get are shotguns though.
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You said you dress English-style. Doesn't make any difference whether it was made here, china or the UK.
Of course it does matter. America, I believe, makes the highest quality goods when it comes to clothes or just about anything if you can find a company that does EVERYTHING inside the United States.
You see, everything the United States used to make and produce was of extremely high quality as it was all Union made. The best stuff in the US is still Union made. I always look to America first when I try to find something I like. You can`t buy a better shoe than Alden. They have steel shanks in them and will last you a lifetime. Plus, the aniline leather is the highest quality, Italian leather is a joke when it comes to American Leather. Same goes for jackets as well. American made is the best you can possibly buy.
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Talking about the style not where it was made.
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That's a handsome Sportcoat, I have one quite similar to it. I've always hoped to have some bespoke clothing to pass on to my children, looks like all they'll get are shotguns though.
Its quite interesting with Bespoke. All you need is a few pieces and it will last forever. The United States used to be that way, but we now live in a throw away society so quality takes a back seat to quantity. The English still operate that way, in that they only have a few suits usually, but they are the highest quality.
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Talking about the style not where it was made.
ignoring the fact that he just owned you by pointing out that unions are the reason for quality goods?
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PG Wodehouse knew the score.
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2009/7/25/1248562325394/PG-Wodehouse-in-his-car-o-001.jpg)
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english i take it ? ;D
Yes. I don't give two shits about most of the things you said, but to say that we have produced one good band is simply ridiculous. Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Thin Lizzy, Black Sabbath, David Bowie, Radiohead, Muse, Eric Clapton, Van Morrison, The Smiths, Roxy Music, Jethro Tull, The Clash, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Deep Purple, Sex Pistols, The Police, Joy Division, Dire Straits...I could go on and on.
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Haha, sure tbombz. Hahaha.
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Yes. I don't give two shits about most of the things you said, but to say that we have produced one good band is simply ridiculous. Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Thin Lizzy, Black Sabbath, David Bowie, Radiohead, Muse, Eric Clapton, Van Morrison, The Smiths, Roxy Music, Jethro Tull, The Clash, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Deep Purple, Sex Pistols, The Police, Joy Division, Dire Straits...I could go on and on.
Those seem so trivial compared to the Magna Carta, Adam Smith, and the deafeat of the Spanish Armada.
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or the fact that they used to have a world empire and won control of north america, in effect essentially birthing the united states?
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eeeeewwwwww
get a fashion advisor
STFU you hooligan goon. You dress like a white thug and have diamond studs and are found in your freetime making kissy faces on your webcam in your mommy's basement. That is when you aren't robbing them to buy coke.
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ok theres like 5 good bands in their history. sorry. ;D
adam smith. psh. fuckin hack writing about shit he has no education in.
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Epic.
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Awesome coat adam. I fear my massive 18.5634 inch unpumped arms would rip such a jacket. Love that jacket. Great taste!
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or the fact that they used to have a world empire and won control of north america, in effect essentially birthing the united states?
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The United States was an unintended and undesirable consequence of England's actions. We became the greatest force for good on the planet ourselves.
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ok theres like 5 good bands in their history. sorry. ;D
adam smith. psh. fuckin hack writing about shit he has no education in.
Are you insisting his ideas did not change history?
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Are you insisting his ideas did not change history?
did hitler change history? what kind of basis is that for measuring someones worth?
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STFU you hooligan goon. You dress like a white thug and have diamond studs and are found in your freetime making kissy faces on your webcam in your mommy's basement. That is when you aren't robbing them to buy coke.
diamond studs? white thug? ;D
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did hitler change history? what kind of basis is that for measuring someones worth?
Yes, Hitler changed history as did Adam Smith, Jesus, Hippocrates, Hammurabi and a host of others. Worth? No, importance and relevance to our lives today, yes.
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thug 8)
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diamond studs? white thug? ;D
Epic obese Archie Bunker father look with chest hair sporting a hot bods shirt bought for 39.99 via flex magazine. Don't make me post your kissy face video again and humiliate. We all know you use an enema before your bf pounds your butt and degrades you.
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Epic obese Archie Bunker father look with chest hair sporting a hot bods shirt bought for 39.99 via flex magazine. Don't make me post your kissy face video again and humiliate. We all know you use an enema before your bf pounds your butt and degrades you.
;D nice attempt
btw the black striped button up is from banana republic, so if the light blue and green one
i suggest you check out their line of clothes. hit and miss but alot of good stuff there.
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Yes. I don't give two shits about most of the things you said, but to say that we have produced one good band is simply ridiculous. Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Thin Lizzy, Black Sabbath, David Bowie, Radiohead, Muse, Eric Clapton, Van Morrison, The Smiths, Roxy Music, Jethro Tull, The Clash, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Deep Purple, Sex Pistols, The Police, Joy Division, Dire Straits...I could go on and on.
agree...the Brits make great music...most of my favorite bands are English...
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Adonis? Isn't that the bloke that went off roids at 260lbs and found himself at 150lbs? ;D
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Yeah, because ordering a double cheeseburgers with potatoes fried in partially hydrogenated oil is just as good as eating a skinless turkey breast with brown rice and broccoli.
And the multiple posters who have corrected you are right: the word supplements is plural and therefeore you should have written "aren't' and not "isn't". It seems like you enjoy taking your revenge for Nature butchering your face before you were born by butchering the English language.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Haha, pwned. His dialect red herring was hilarious, though.
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This in NOT the Tbombz I pictured.
I pictured a black guy from west Philadelphia, born and raised, who on the playground would spend most of his days. Chillin out, maxin, relaxing all cool and even shooting some b-ball outside of his school. On occasion, he would bump into a couple of guys who were up to no good that would end up making trouble in his neighborhood, leading to him getting into one lil fight making his mom feel scared..
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=389080.0;attach=420660;image)
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Nice looking girlfriend you have Adonis.
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Those seem so trivial compared to the Magna Carta, Adam Smith, and the deafeat of the Spanish Armada.
The spanish armada of 1588 was "defeated" by severe storms. Not many in the UK (or ireland) think the weather's something to celebrate
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eeeeewwwwww
get a fashion advisor
maybe he was playing a old man in that movie?
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the english suck at everything.. annoyingly poor sense of humor, asexual, bad teeth, bad food, bad weather, ugly scenery, one good band in its entire history, and shitty philosophy as well.
lets see the shoes
LOL - ok Walmart generation ::) nice education you have acquired ::)
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(http://www.picshag.com/pics/032010/hitler-look-a-like.jpg)
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LOL - ok Walmart generation ::) nice education you have acquired ::)
Are you suggesting that tdongz has surmised that the English are this way based on a Family Guy episode or two?
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Are you suggesting that tdongz has surmised that the English are this way based on a Family Guy episode or two?
LOL yes correct sir...
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Epic obese Archie Bunker father look with chest hair sporting a hot bods shirt bought for 39.99 via flex magazine. Don't make me post your kissy face video again and humiliate. We all know you use an enema before your bf pounds your butt and degrades you.
I LOL`ed!
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Yeah, because ordering a double cheeseburgers with potatoes fried in partially hydrogenated oil is just as good as eating a skinless turkey breast with brown rice and broccoli.
And the multiple posters who have corrected you are right: the word supplements is plural and therefeore you should have written "aren't' and not "isn't". It seems like you enjoy taking your revenge for Nature butchering your face before you were born by butchering the English language.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Nobody of sane mind would EVER WANT to eat a SKINLESS Turkey Breast with Brown Rice and Broccoli. You, sir, are lower than rubbish on the Thames.
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I've said this before and I'll say it again, every single pro & winning amateur bodybuilder I ever knew, and I knew hundreds, all took supplements.
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Creatine and Omega 3 works.
NN
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I've said this before and I'll say it again, every single pro & winning amateur bodybuilder I ever knew, and I knew hundreds, all took supplements.
I'm sure at least 80% of them were sponsored, which is why they say they take them or just do it because they get them for free. The ones that aren't sponsored, well they're just deluded. ;D
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Epic obese Archie Bunker father look with chest hair sporting a hot bods shirt bought for 39.99 via flex magazine. Don't make me post your kissy face video again and humiliate. We all know you use an enema before your bf pounds your butt and degrades you.
That is just wrong. :D
That show irritates me. :D
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Epic.
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I now see why you will not post a pic to prove me wrong. You are clearly up in body fat and it shows in your face compared to the pics from 5 years ago.
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I now see why you will not post a pic to prove me wrong. You are clearly up in body fat and it shows in your face compared to the pics from 5 years ago.
Nope. Same Bodyweight and everything.
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Nope. Same Bodyweight and everything.
what supps are u referring to?
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Nope. Same Bodyweight and everything.
How heavy are you TA? About 180?
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Nope. Same Bodyweight and everything.
Clearly more fat and less muscle. Unless you would like to prove me wrong by posting a pic. ::)
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Nope. Same Bodyweight and everything.
No you are fatter now
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Clearly more fat and less muscle
this
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No you are fatter now
and this
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our resident dietary expert clammed up pretty fast when I asked him to post a pic of himself in the jeff Rodriguez thread when he was beaking off about how Rodriguez could eat whatever he wanted and hold as much muscle and be as lean.
Adonis is a little fag. end of story.
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Epic.
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What type of shades ???
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No you are fatter now
Sorry, thats just not the case. I have not changed in years. All of my measurements are all the same and my clothes have not needed a single centimeter of alteration.
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Sorry, thats just not the case. I have not changed in years. All of my measurements are all the same and my clothes have not needed a single centimeter of alteration.
If that is true I really don't see why you don't post a picture of your physique then.
probably would shut the "haters" up no ?
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If that is true I really don't see why you don't post a picture of your physique then.
probably would shut the "haters" up no ?
Perhaps I quite enjoy "the haters". The longer I can draw it out, the more than I get to toy with them. I know I can PWN them at any moment at my choosing.
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Have adonis ever posted a back shot?
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Have adonis ever posted a back shot?
No idea.
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(http://www.picshag.com/pics/032010/hitler-look-a-like.jpg)
Adolph? :o
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What type of shades ???
No idea.
???
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Perhaps I quite enjoy "the haters". The longer I can draw it out, the more than I get to toy with them. I know I can PWN them at any moment at my choosing.
Like in 6 months when you diet down on chicken and broccoli for the next picture you take to post up on here?
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No idea.
maybe its a good time to post it, albeit a current one.
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I got those at a Vintage store and they are Ray Ban. Not sure of the year of the make. I went there to buy a pair of tortoise shell glasses, but someone had bought the last pair that would have fit me. :-\
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our resident dietary expert clammed up pretty fast when I asked him to post a pic of himself in the jeff Rodriguez thread when he was beaking off about how Rodriguez could eat whatever he wanted and hold as much muscle and be as lean.
Adonis is a little fag. end of story.
He tries to sound so cultured and is trying so hard to convince us that he is still ripped with eveything but actual proof. In actuality he is a fraud and a liar who will do anything not to admit he is wrong. Ask yourself this. Do you really think he wouldn't post a pic of himself to prove me wrong and have me leave? Something smells bad and it's not that ugly hand me down jacket he has on.
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He tries to sound so cultured and is trying so hard to convince us that he is still ripped with eveything but actual proof. In actuality he is a fraud and a liar who will do anything not to admit he is wrong. Ask yyrself this. Do you really think he wouldn't post a pic of himself to prove me wrong and have me leave? Somthing smells bad and it's not that ugly hand me down jacket he has on.
Sorry, I just don`t think you`d leave which is why I am not going to waste my time. If you can prove to me that you will be gone for good, perhaps give me your password, you will have your picture ASAP. Deal?
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"Give me your password" hahahahahahahahaha!
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Sorry, I just don`t think you`d leave which is why I am not going to waste my time. If you can prove to me that you will be gone for good, perhaps give me your password, you will have your picture ASAP. Deal?
First why do u start off almost every post with sorry? Secondly why is it a waste of time to prove you have integrity? Lastly I give no one my password. How but this, post your pic and the loser gets put in timout for one year!! I give Ron my permission to do this do you????
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"Give me your password" hahahahahahahahaha!
;D
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"Give me your password" hahahahahahahahaha!
LMAO ;D
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Sorry, thats just not the case. I have not changed in years. All of my measurements are all the same and my clothes have not needed a single centimeter of alteration.
Sorry...but you are obviously lying. your face is not angular anymore like it was when you were lean because you are fatter now.....your whole body looks thicker.
You can be as obtuse as you like but we all know the truth here
That being said...i think you look better this way, much healthier looking
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First why do u start off almost every post with sorry? Secondly why is it a waste of time to prove you have integrity? Lastly I give no one my password. How but this, post your pic and the loser gets put in timout for one year!! I give Ron my permission to do this do you????
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Fantastic Acting.
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Epic.
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hahahahahahahah holy shit hahaha
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So an admittance of being a liar and a fraud and a lack of honor on your part. As if there was ever any other conclusion to draw based on previous behavior.
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So an admittance of being a liar and a fraud and a lack of honor on your part. As if there was ever any other conclusion to draw based on previous behavior.
That is your own fallacious aspersion. I went out for a bit to tend to my graveyard and I come back and this is the best you can muster? ???
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That is your own fallacious aspersion. I went out for a bit to tend to my graveyard and I come back and this is the best you can muster? ???
Did you take the dogs with you ? and refresh them after the walk by giving them some cold milk in their stainless steel bowels ?
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Did you take the dogs with you ? and refresh them after the walk by giving them some cold milk in their stainless steel bowels ?
No, but I encountered a rather large rabbit and a turtle hanging on to one of the headstones. My dogs do eat out of raised stainless bowls due to their height. I made them some rice earlier so they will get some of that for their nightly walk.
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That is your own fallacious aspersion. I went out for a bit to tend to my graveyard and I come back and this is the best you can muster? ???
So the best pics that you can muster is fully clothed with long sleeve shirts and jacket? Hahahahahahaha Even with a T-shirt on that would expose your forearms you're 6 lights years away from the camera. Hahahahaha Even your forearms are soft. You are nothing but a complete joke and you are scared to take my offer which would put me in timeout for a year.
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No, but I encountered a rather large rabbit and a turtle hanging on to one of the headstones. My dogs do eat out of raised stainless bowls due to their height. I made them some rice earlier so they will get some of that for their nightly walk.
Sounds pleasant, I am about to crack a can of ice cold BlackThorn Cider my friend.
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Sounds pleasant, I am about to crack a can of ice cold BlackThorn Cider my friend.
Have you tried the Stella Artois cider? It's actually not bad. Doesn't top the stuff I had at the annual cider festival I went to last year though :D
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Sounds pleasant, I am about to crack a can of ice cold BlackThorn Cider my friend.
I like Samuel Smith myself, Imperial Stout or Oatmeal Stout are a mainstay.
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So the best pics that you can muster is fully clothed with long sleeve shirts and jacket? Hahahahahahaha Even with a T-shirt on that would expose your forearms you're 6 lights years away from the camera. Hahahahaha Even your forearms are soft. You are nothing but a complete joke and you are scared to take my offer which would put me in timeout for a year.
Why not offer me your password in exchange for my photo? That is the only way I can ensure that you won`t return with that name as I will immediately change it as soon as I receive it so you cannot log in any longer.
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Epic.
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Needs more ascot.
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Needs more ascot.
Agreed.
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Agreed.
Have you ever visited the UK out of interest, TA?
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I like Samuel Smith myself, Imperial Stout or Oatmeal Stout are a mainstay.
I will try one of these next time I am at the shop, I found Tetley and Boddington's much to "gassy" for me.
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Why not offer me your password in exchange for my photo? That is the only way I can ensure that you won`t return with that name as I will immediately change it as soon as I receive it so you cannot log in any longer.
Why not be a man and take my offer which Ron will no doubt agree on. Loser gets a time out for one full year. Do you realize how foolish you look? It is painfully obvious how scared you are to post a pic.
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It is amazing the delusion of this Adonis guy. He has one of the skinniest/fattest physiques I have ever seen, and the face of something straight out of a Lord of the Rings novel by Tolkien and yet he thinks he is something special.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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It is amazing the delusion of this Adonis guy. He has one of the skinniest/fattest physiques I have ever seen, and the face of something straight out of a Lord of the Rings novel by Tolkien and yet he thinks he is something special.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
really ? my view is that he built a classic physique after recognizing he was obese.
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Why not be a man and take my offer which Ron will no doubt agree on. Loser gets a time out for one full year. Do you realize how foolish you look? It is painfully obvious how scared you are to post a pic.
You're being punked now. His photo in exchange for your password is a fair deal. Both can be sent to Ron. Ron will verify the picture is current and then forward to you at the same time he sends your password to Adonis.
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You're being punked now. His photo in exchange for your password is a fair deal. Both can be sent to Ron. Ron will verify the picture is current and then forward to you at the same time he sends your password to Adonis.
Exactly.
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Supplements, no, but protein powder is just incredibly convenient. You can take a shake with you anywhere, sip it at work, after the gym, etc. Nothing tops it in convenience.
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Supplements, no, but protein powder is just incredibly convenient. You can take a shake with you anywhere, sip it at work, after the gym, etc. Nothing tops it in convenience.
Except that it is insulinogenic and gets out of your bloodstream 20 minutes after you swalloed it, meaning that it's a poor way to remain anabolic throughout the day.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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You're being punked now. His photo in exchange for your password is a fair deal. Both can be sent to Ron. Ron will verify the picture is current and then forward to you at the same time he sends your password to Adonis.
no because afterward Adonis will be able to post with the Disgusted account if he wanted
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Except that it is insulinogenic and gets out of your bloodstream 20 minutes after you swalloed it, meaning that it's a poor way to remain anabolic throughout the day.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Casein does that? Regardless, does 'remaining anabolic' have any noticeable meaning for a natural?
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really ? my view is that he built a classic physique after recognizing he was obese.
This is indeed partly correct. I actually started out very skinny and remaining as lean as I could. For the first 3 years of training, I stayed around 165 lbs, then for 4 years straight, I ate as much food as I possibly could without ever being in a caloric deficit. I actually liked powerlifting a bit and figured I`d just diet down one day and so I did. I then repeated the process once or twice more of power bulking as I wanted to lift 600 lbs in the deadlift once again, that was around 2006 and my last time ever of force feeding. I had already dieted all the way down in 2004 and 2005 so I knew how easy it actually was. After 2006, I decided to stay lean forever and not force feed. When I say force feed, I really mean it. It was absurd the quantity of food I`d consume day in and day out. The amusing thing is, I could never EVER go above around 246 lbs or so, no matter how much I ate. I was easily doing 5000 calories or more a day for months and months on end and nothing would happen. 246 lbs seemed to be the max bodyweight I could obtain. Of course it was all fat, and I knew that, but it enabled my center of gravity and leverage to change in that I was capable of lifting and bearing pretty heavy loads.
I now maintain around 170-180 and stay very lean as it takes me only 2-4 weeks to get EXTREMELY shredded. (most of the weight lost in that time is just water, so therefore I do not carry much fat).
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I mean wtf is that? this is the kind of outfit that they dress trisomy 21 people with, in psychiatric hospital for Xmas...
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I mean wtf is that? this is the kind of outfit that they dress trisomy 21 people with, in psychiatric hospital for Xmas...
I am sorry that I didn`t have on an Affliction T-Shirt with Cargo stinker shorts or whatever the crap is that you and the commoners wear these days.
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Casein does that? Regardless, does 'remaining anabolic' have any noticeable meaning for a natural?
No. Lactalbumin(whey) does. Anyway, staying anabolic with food is even more important for a natural than for a juicer, and whey only keeps you anabolic for 20 minutes and then you are back at being catabolic.
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no. Lactalbumin(whey) does. Anyway, staying anabolic with food is even more important for a natural than for a juicer, and whey only keeps you anabolic for 20 minutes and then you are back at being catabolic.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I use a 50/50 protein, whey/casein.
It's still convenient as hell.
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Sorry, thats just not the case. I have not changed in years. All of my measurements are all the same and my clothes have not needed a single centimeter of alteration.
But you just said in another post that you were around 175-180. If I recall you also said you were 150-155 in those old pictures. if you're measurements haven't changed and you're 20-25lbs heavier (fatter) the only conclusion is........you're skinny/fat.
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I use a 50/50 protein, whey/casein.
It's still convenient as hell.
Just use plain casein. It is much cheaper and keeps you anabolic for much longer than whey. Whey has a higher B.V but it is out of your system too fast to keep you anabolic. Save whey for taking after training, when you need a quick rush of amino acids to the muscles.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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But you just said in another post that you were around 175-180. If I recall you also said you were 150-155 in those old pictures. if you're measurements haven't changed and you're 20-25lbs heavier (fatter) the only conclusion is........you're skinny/fat.
He can't remember his own lies. He also stated a while back that the reason he would not enter the Getbig 2 contest was that he would not have enough time to get in shape. ::)
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But you just said in another post that you were around 175-180. If I recall you also said you were 150-155 in those old pictures. if you're measurements haven't changed and you're 20-25lbs heavier (fatter) the only conclusion is........you're skinny/fat.
I was 175 in those pictures. I never said once that I was 155-160 in those pictures.
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I am sorry that I didn`t have on an Affliction T-Shirt with Cargo stinker shorts or whatever the crap is that you and the commoners wear these days.
what about some normal jeans, with a normal t-shirt? oh nvm you wanna look like an intellectual homo, its all good...
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I was 175 in those pictures. I never said once that I was 155-160 in those pictures.
Total bullshit. That was one of the reasons we were giving you shit back then. Remember one thing TA, integrity is worth more than money. Your integrity isn't worth very much if anything at all.
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No. Lactalbumin(whey) does. Anyway, staying anabolic with food is even more important for a natural than for a juicer, and whey only keeps you anabolic for 20 minutes and then you are back at being catabolic.
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thats complete bullshit.
whey protein digests at a rate of about 10 grams per hour.
so one 20 gram shake will give you an overload of amino's entering the blood stream for a 2 hour period.
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Yeah, because ordering a double cheeseburgers with potatoes fried in partially hydrogenated oil is just as good as eating a skinless turkey breast with brown rice and broccoli.
And the multiple posters who have corrected you are right: the word supplements is plural and therefeore you should have written "aren't' and not "isn't". It seems like you enjoy taking your revenge for Nature butchering your face before you were born by butchering the English language.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LOL oh chit! ;D
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thats complete bullshit.
whey protein digests at a rate of about 10 grams per hour.
No. Just no.
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No. Just no.
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A Review of Issues of Dietary Protein Intake in Humans
The key issues are the rate at which the gastrointestinal tract can absorb amino acids from dietary proteins (1.3 to 10 g/h) and the liver's capacity to deaminate proteins and produce urea for excretion of excess nitrogen. The accepted level of protein requirement of 0.8g ∙ kg-1 ∙ d-1 is based on structural requirements and ignores the use of protein for energy metabolism. High protein diets on the other hand advocate excessive levels of protein intake on the order of 200 to 400 g/d. The three different measures of defining protein intake, which should be viewed together are: absolute intake (g/d), intake related to body weight (g ∙ kg-1 ∙ d-1) and intake as a fraction of total energy (percent energy).
Rapidly absorbed amino acids despite stimulating greater protein synthesis, also stimulate greater amino acid oxidation, and hence results in a lower net protein gain, than slowly absorbed protein (54). Leucine balance, a measurable endpoint for protein balance, is indicated in Figure 1, which shows slowly absorbed amino acids (~ 6 to 7 g/h), such as CAS and 2.3 g of WP repeatedly taken orally every 20 min (RPT-WP), provide significantly better protein balance than rapidly absorbed amino acids (39, 54).
The misconception in the fitness and sports industries is that rapidly absorbed protein, such as WP and AA promote better protein anabolism. As the graph shows, slowly absorbed protein such as CAS and small amounts of WP (RPT-WP) provide four and nine times more protein synthesis than WP.
Using the findings of amino acid absorption rates shown in Table 2 (using leucine balance as a measurable endpoint for protein balance), a maximal amino acid intake measured by the inhibition of proteolysis and increase in postprandial protein gain, may only be ~ 6 to 7 g/h (as described by RPT-WP, and casein) (38), which corresponds to a maximal protein intake of 144 to 168 g/d.
From our earlier calculations elucidating the maximal amounts of protein intake from MRUS, an 80 kg subject could theoretically tolerate up to 301 to 365 g of protein per day, but this would require an absorption rate of 12.5 to 15 g/h, an unlikely level given the results of the studies reported above.
Some evidence suggests, however, that a high protein diet increases leucine oxidation (82, 83), while other data demonstrate that the slower digestion rate of protein (38, 54), and the timing of protein ingestion (with resistance training) (84) promote muscle protein synthesis.
Absorption rates of amino acids from the gut can vary from 1.4 g/h for raw egg white to 8 to 10 g/h for whey protein isolate. Slowly absorbed amino acids such as casein (~ 6 g/h) and repeated small doses of whey protein (2.9 g per 20 min, totaling ~ 7 g/h) promote leucine balance, a marker of protein balance, superior to that of a single dose of 30 g of whey protein or free amino acids which are both rapidly absorbed (8 to 10 g/h), and enhance amino acid oxidation. This gives us an initial understanding that although higher protein intakes are physiologically possible, and tolerable by the human body, they may not be functionally optimal in terms of building and preserving body protein. The general, although incorrect consensus among athletes and bodybuilders, is that rapid protein absorption corresponds to greater muscle building.
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I am sorry that I didn`t have on an Affliction T-Shirt with Cargo stinker shorts or whatever the crap is that you and the commoners wear these days.
lol
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Tbombz for the win!
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Did you take the dogs with you ? and refresh them after the walk by giving them some cold milk in their stainless steel bowels ?
LOL ;D
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That is your own fallacious aspersion. I went out for a bit to tend to my graveyard and I come back and this is the best you can muster? ???
Did you walk down the cobblestone path and pluck up a few weeds on the way back?
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This in NOT the Tbombz I pictured.
I pictured a black guy from west Philadelphia, born and raised, who on the playground would spend most of his days. Chillin out, maxin, relaxing all cool and even shooting some b-ball outside of his school. On occasion, he would bump into a couple of guys who were up to no good that would end up making trouble in his neighborhood, leading to him getting into one lil fight making his mom feel scared..
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=389080.0;attach=420660;image)
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Tbombz has anyone told you that you look like a blonde version of Evan Centiaponti?
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thats complete bullshit.
whey protein digests at a rate of about 10 grams per hour.
so one 20 gram shake will give you an overload of amino's entering the blood stream for a 2 hour period.
so are you saying that a 300lbs with abs beast on 2000mg of test that lifts weights for 3 hours a day have the same rate of digestion as a 100lbs bottom twink that stays the whole day sleeping??
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Did you walk down the cobblestone path and pluck up a few weeds on the way back?
Pea Gravel, yes and I weed as I go at times.
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A Review of Issues of Dietary Protein Intake in Humans
The key issues are the rate at which the gastrointestinal tract can absorb amino acids from dietary proteins (1.3 to 10 g/h) and the liver's capacity to deaminate proteins and produce urea for excretion of excess nitrogen. The accepted level of protein requirement of 0.8g ∙ kg-1 ∙ d-1 is based on structural requirements and ignores the use of protein for energy metabolism. High protein diets on the other hand advocate excessive levels of protein intake on the order of 200 to 400 g/d. The three different measures of defining protein intake, which should be viewed together are: absolute intake (g/d), intake related to body weight (g ∙ kg-1 ∙ d-1) and intake as a fraction of total energy (percent energy).
Rapidly absorbed amino acids despite stimulating greater protein synthesis, also stimulate greater amino acid oxidation, and hence results in a lower net protein gain, than slowly absorbed protein (54). Leucine balance, a measurable endpoint for protein balance, is indicated in Figure 1, which shows slowly absorbed amino acids (~ 6 to 7 g/h), such as CAS and 2.3 g of WP repeatedly taken orally every 20 min (RPT-WP), provide significantly better protein balance than rapidly absorbed amino acids (39, 54).
The misconception in the fitness and sports industries is that rapidly absorbed protein, such as WP and AA promote better protein anabolism. As the graph shows, slowly absorbed protein such as CAS and small amounts of WP (RPT-WP) provide four and nine times more protein synthesis than WP.
Using the findings of amino acid absorption rates shown in Table 2 (using leucine balance as a measurable endpoint for protein balance), a maximal amino acid intake measured by the inhibition of proteolysis and increase in postprandial protein gain, may only be ~ 6 to 7 g/h (as described by RPT-WP, and casein) (38), which corresponds to a maximal protein intake of 144 to 168 g/d.
From our earlier calculations elucidating the maximal amounts of protein intake from MRUS, an 80 kg subject could theoretically tolerate up to 301 to 365 g of protein per day, but this would require an absorption rate of 12.5 to 15 g/h, an unlikely level given the results of the studies reported above.
Some evidence suggests, however, that a high protein diet increases leucine oxidation (82, 83), while other data demonstrate that the slower digestion rate of protein (38, 54), and the timing of protein ingestion (with resistance training) (84) promote muscle protein synthesis.
Absorption rates of amino acids from the gut can vary from 1.4 g/h for raw egg white to 8 to 10 g/h for whey protein isolate. Slowly absorbed amino acids such as casein (~ 6 g/h) and repeated small doses of whey protein (2.9 g per 20 min, totaling ~ 7 g/h) promote leucine balance, a marker of protein balance, superior to that of a single dose of 30 g of whey protein or free amino acids which are both rapidly absorbed (8 to 10 g/h), and enhance amino acid oxidation. This gives us an initial understanding that although higher protein intakes are physiologically possible, and tolerable by the human body, they may not be functionally optimal in terms of building and preserving body protein. The general, although incorrect consensus among athletes and bodybuilders, is that rapid protein absorption corresponds to greater muscle building.
This doesen't mean that it will stay in your bloodstream for hours. It will take an hour to be absorbed, but once absorbed from your gut to your bloodstream it is out of your bloodtream in 20 minutes. What matters is the time it stays in your bloodstream. ;)
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There has been a major demand for over 25 years and still is. A large number of supplement users are repeat customers therefore they're working on a few levels for most.
They're especially important for people that have illness in many areas, diabetics, cardiovascular issues, nervous system issues, joint issues, and down the list.
Once most your clowns get past your cell tech days, you'll likely realize you also want to extend the functionality of your body and its health.
85% of the industry is health/wellness/cosmoceuticals. Only 15% of the supplement industry is sports nutrition. Therefore, when you care to look, theres a lot of shit people take to live better and avoid having to take the bullshit they try to hawk us on tv. In fact, as i type this, there is a commercial on the tv about some random pharmaceutical. Go that route and you'll hike your rates and likely never be consulted by your doctor on how to get off the medication he put you on.
Adonis, being a 175lb twink and reading books all day in his drab mother law quarters he lives is, will likely live a long life by himself and need little nutritional support due to low stress and responsibilities. God forbid he wind up something like Parkinsons and find that he cant control his life without a combination of pharmaceuticals and over the counter agents like coq10... I guess he'll just outsmart whatever ailments he may come down with being the genius he is.
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I got those at a Vintage store and they are Ray Ban. Not sure of the year of the make. I went there to buy a pair of tortoise shell glasses, but someone had bought the last pair that would have fit me. :-\
Epic score if you can pick up Ray Ban's at a vintage store.
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OK so here is the deal, IF Adonis post a picture of himself, shirtless and holding a recent newspaper, I propose myself to receive Disgusted password and personnally delete his account. (even if it's a pretty fucking stupid statement as Ron could himself delete his account)
I think I proved myself to be pretty honnest over the years here so it's up to you Adonis
I am sure Jim will approve too
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This doesen't mean that it will stay in your bloodstream for hours. It will take an hour to be absorbed, but once absorbed from your gut to your bloodstream it is out of your bloodtream in 20 minutes. What matters is the time it stays in your bloodstream. ;)
??? Once any type of protein is in the blood stream, they are all amino acids. At this point the body does not distinguish between type of protein. One type will not stay in the blood stream any longer than another. It is rather the slower release of amino acids into the blood stream that is different.
Nice try though ;D
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OK so here is the deal, IF Adonis post a picture of himself, shirtless and holding a recent newspaper, I propose myself to receive Disgusted password and personnally delete his account. (even if it's a pretty fucking stupid statement as Ron could himself delete his account)
I think I proved myself to be pretty honnest over the years here so it's up to you Adonis
I am sure Jim will approve too
The strife that a getbigger will go through to get a man topless ;D
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The strife that a getbigger will go through to get a man topless ;D
what can I say, I like my men in thong that's the way it is ;D
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OK so here is the deal, IF Adonis post a picture of himself, shirtless and holding a recent newspaper, I propose myself to receive Disgusted password and personnally delete his account. (even if it's a pretty fucking stupid statement as Ron could himself delete his account)
I think I proved myself to be pretty honnest over the years here so it's up to you Adonis
I am sure Jim will approve too
Why not just give the password to me instead that way I can make sure its deleted.
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Why not just give the password to me instead that way I can make sure its deleted.
because you have not been honnest in the past, as we are still waiting for the video of the 225lbs deadlift x 112 reps or the gravity suit ;D
I think I am a better candidate
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because you have not been honnest in the past, as we are still waiting for the video of the 225lbs deadlift x 112 reps or the gravity suit ;D
I think I am a better candidate
Honest? Are you not capable of knowing when someone closes their account or not? I`d like to close the book on Disgusted myself as it will bring me great satisfaction and once I obtain his password, old Jim will be gone with the wind....
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Honest? Are you not capable of knowing when someone closes their account or not? I`d like to close the book on Disgusted myself as it will bring me great satisfaction and once I obtain his password, old Jim will be gone with the wind....
Maybe but Jim doesn'T want to give you his password so I am trying to find a middle ground here 8)
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Why not just give the password to me instead that way I can make sure its deleted.
Goes both ways, if you lose you have to leave so give me yours and I'm 100% positive you will lose.
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Hahahaha, "why not just give me your password" hahahahahaha. Why not just ask for his Social Security number as well? LMAO.
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Hahahaha, "why not just give me your password" hahahahahaha. Why not just ask for his Social Security number as well? LMAO.
;D
well it's not "as" important tho, but asking for a password to show a picture is asking a bit much ;D
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To be honest, I don't want to see another Adonis picture LOL! I don't care if he's 170 or 370. I enjoy his onslaught of ostentacious posts about food, fashion, literature, language, art, religion, etc.....it's good fun, but c'mon fellas, this is Getbig.........Get-frickin-big!! If "the lifestyle" were genuine he wouldn't be caught dead on this site.....it's really that simple. Enjoy it for what it is....pretentious fantasy.
FYI ~ I use protein powder everyday. Have a child or two and life changes. I'm sure TA will regale us with his factoids on the use of proper english nannies for childcare LOL!!
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The logical thing for Adam to do since he is terrified of posting a pic is to give me his password so I can delete his account.
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The logical thing for Adam to do since he is terrified of posting a pic is to give me his password so I can delete his account.
You WILL NOT do any such thing. >:(
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What difference does it make, he probably has just as many if not more gimmicks than Alex!
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What difference does it make, he probably has just as many if not more gimmicks than Alex!
Exactly, either one of us can come back under a different name. Bottom line is he is terrified to be proven wrong.
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adonis wont post shit and this thread has jumped the shark about 5 pages ago!
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To be honest, I don't want to see another Adonis picture LOL! I don't care if he's 170 or 370. I enjoy his onslaught of ostentacious posts about food, fashion, literature, language, art, religion, etc.....it's good fun, but c'mon fellas, this is Getbig.........Get-frickin-big!! If "the lifestyle" were genuine he wouldn't be caught dead on this site.....it's really that simple. Enjoy it for what it is....pretentious fantasy.
FYI ~ I use protein powder everyday. Have a child or two and life changes. I'm sure TA will regale us with his factoids on the use of proper english nannies for childcare LOL!!
actually as a trust fund baby obsessed with himself i find his posts completely believable, and his presence on this site quite fitting. were all narcissistic fucks to some degree.
not that he lives in a mansion and has 12 servants or anything, but the ability to live the life he claims to, yes. i dont think he ever claims anything extraordinary about his finances anyways.
btw, dont use kids as an excuse for not making food. if you would rather drink a protein shake than make food then fine. but its not cuz you have kids that you are doing so. and if you really do spend that much of your time attending to your children then you seriously need to reconsider your approach to parenting.
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adonis wont post shit and this thread has jumped the shark about 5 pages ago!
While TA's Prises de Fer are always entertaining, I will agree that this has grown a bit tired.
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Tbombz has anyone told you that you look like a blonde version of Evan Centiaponti?
no but ive thought that before. there are a ton of similiarities between me and him. ex fat kid. bodybuilding fanatic. similar face appearance.
so are you saying that a 300lbs with abs beast on 2000mg of test that lifts weights for 3 hours a day have the same rate of digestion as a 100lbs bottom twink that stays the whole day sleeping??
yea thats what im saying.
the digestion process isnt effected by muscle size, gear useage, working out.
i think you are confusing digestion with utilization.
of course a bodybuilder utilizes much more protein than a sedentary person. but both digest things at about the same rate (individual variances may occur, but only slight)
This doesen't mean that it will stay in your bloodstream for hours. It will take an hour to be absorbed, but once absorbed from your gut to your bloodstream it is out of your bloodtream in 20 minutes. What matters is the time it stays in your bloodstream. ;)
idiot.
once aminos are in the blood stream it doesnt matter whether its from whey or beef or whatever, the metabolism will occur at the same rate. when discussing rate of digestion we are talking about the rate at which aminos trickle into the blood stream. whey protein digests at about 10 grams per hour. that means you have 1 gram slowly entering the blood every 6 minutes.. spread out over those six minutes. so 1/6th of a gram every minute.
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no but ive thought that before. there are a ton of similiarities between me and him. ex fat kid. bodybuilding fanatic. similar face appearance.
yea thats what im saying.
the digestion process isnt effected by muscle size, gear useage, working out.
i think you are confusing digestion with utilization.
of course a bodybuilder utilizes much more protein than a sedentary person. but both digest things at about the same rate (individual variances may occur, but only slight)
idiot.
once aminos are in the blood stream it doesnt matter whether its from whey or beef or whatever, the metabolism will occur at the same rate. when discussing rate of digestion we are talking about the rate at which aminos trickle into the blood stream. whey protein digests at about 10 grams per hour. that means you have 1 gram slowly entering the blood every 6 minutes.. spread out over those six minutes. so 1/6th of a gram every minute.
LOL......for someone who knows EVERYTHING you really have no physique to speak of
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Adonis and Disgusted should BOTH PM chaos their passwords, I will then forward the losers password to the winner to do as he pleases with the losers account. 8)
LOL......for someone who knows EVERYTHING you really have no physique to speak of
No shit, the kid is a mess. :-\
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once aminos are in the blood stream it doesnt matter whether its from whey or beef or whatever, the metabolism will occur at the same rate. when discussing rate of digestion we are talking about the rate at which aminos trickle into the blood stream. whey protein digests at about 10 grams per hour. that means you have 1 gram slowly entering the blood every 6 minutes.. spread out over those six minutes. so 1/6th of a gram every minute.
This is what you don't understand, fudge packer. Whey take an hour to leave the stomach to the intestines, but once it does it is absorbed at once. It is the time it takes the aveoli of the intestines to push the amino acid peptides that matters and not how long it takes them to go from the stomach to the intestines. Hence, it enters your bloodstream all at once and is out in 20 minutes. So you are anabolic for 20 minutes and then you are back at being catabolic. Moron.
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Nice of your grandfather to lend you some clothes for the day when you took those "epic" photos.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/15ppu8m.jpg)
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LOL......for someone who knows EVERYTHING you really have no physique to speak of
this x 1000000000000000
tbombz is fatpanda on steroids.
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LOL......for someone who knows EVERYTHING you really have no physique to speak of
::) bitch im as big as you, likely bigger, im just not photogenic because of my high body fat, loose skin, and massive head. ask a23.
This is what you don't understand, fudge packer. Whey take an hour to leave the stomach to the intestines, but once it does it is absorbed at once. It is the time it takes the aveoli of the intestines to push the amino acid peptides that matters and not how long it takes them to go from the stomach to the intestines. Hence, it enters your bloodstream all at once and is out in 20 minutes. So you are anabolic for 20 minutes and then you are back at being catabolic. Moron.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
um, no. refer to the paper i posted. whey is digested at 10 grams per hour.
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So you hold a baby, wow.
any other great acconplishments in the last month, tballz?
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So you hold a baby, wow.
any other great acconplishments in the last month, tballz?
I don't know about last month, but in 2009 when he registered here he boasted about this accomplishment:
"Getting fucked is like receiving a deep tissue massage, only that it's inside your asshole...."
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I don't know about last month, but in 2009 when he registered here he boasted about this accomplishment:
"Getting fucked is like receiving a deep tissue massage, only that it's inside your asshole...."
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I did NOT need to read that....
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I don't know about last month, but in 2009 when he registered here he boasted about this accomplishment:
"Getting fucked is like receiving a deep tissue massage, only that it's inside your asshole...."
SUCKMYMUSCLE
That's the only thing he can do, actually, getting things into his body, into all holes.
Tons of food into the piehole, then cocaine through the nose, then cocks up his ass now syringes into the muscle since he failed on all other holes he tried so far.
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I really dont get why so many people hate on Tbombz lol. he is a big fucking dude ..only a fool can not see that ::) He has just as much muscle on his frame as Groink. (or close to it). PICS MEAN SHIT
. For example, when I saw Kuclo in Atlanta .the dude does not video well at all and looks Groink's size (smaller even) :o. I can say in 100% confidence that Kuclo has more muscle on his frame than Evan or 90 percent of pros. MIND BOGGLING. Ask Wiggs he will tell you the same thing. You want to see what 280lbs 4 percent bf looks like in real life? Go down to Plano Metroflex and see Steve train. In the vid he looks like a typical 235 gym rat though.
Like I said some guys just dont video or take pics well
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Well we will see if Kuclo gets his pro card this year or not!
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Well we will see if Kuclo gets his pro card this year or not!
i dont see how steve could fuck this up. talk about frustration lol the poor guy is almost 26..
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::) bitch im as big as you, likely bigger, im just not photogenic because of my high body fat, loose skin, and massive head. ask a23.
um, no. refer to the paper i posted. whey is digested at 10 grams per hour.
No you're not....take away the blubber and you are 170.
I'm 240 at 8% and my structure KILLS yours....Bitch ;) and i run 1/3 of what you run
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No you're not....take away the blubber and you are 170.
I'm 240 at 8% and my structure KILLS yours....Bitch ;) and i run 1/3 of what you run
qft
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Are people really comparing tballz body to Groinks ::)