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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Coach is Back! on August 05, 2011, 08:12:42 PM
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Still want to blame Bush?
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No, it was all alone Obama's fault. ::) ::) ::) ::)
If you have no clue about economics, why not just STFU, "Coach"?
Stick to giving training advice.
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No, it was all alone Obama's fault. ::) ::) ::) ::)
If you have no clue about economics, why not just STFU, "Coach"?
Stick to giving training advice.
this^
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Still want to blame Bush?
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Taxes are pretty low here compared to the rest of the world... Maybe too low.
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3 sympahizers so far, anymore? Hasn't happen since 1917. Go ahead, give it another shot.
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3 sympahizers so far, anymore? Hasn't happen since 1917. Go ahead, give it another shot.
Is this a surprise to you, Coach? ???
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Actually, yes. But something was bound to give with all the spending.
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Actually, yes. But something was bound to give with all the spending.
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Spending!? That's the last thing the GOP do during a recession. That always
never works. ;)
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first time in US history...this country is fucked for awhile
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Actually, yes. But something was bound to give with all the spending.
I'll entertain this for a while
How do you know there was too much spending?
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Why are you guys discussing with an absolute idiot with the IQ of a chimp
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first time in US history...this country is fucked for awhile
Only for about 100 years. ;)
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china already downgraded us and now s&p. did we think it was not going to happen?
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Still want to blame Bush?
LOL!!!!!
awesome comedy!!!!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IMPADp8k1Ak/ThKa-kh1DTI/AAAAAAAADvg/ZLq3dR7eMl0/s1600/glenn-beck.jpg)
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Taxes are pretty low here compared to the rest of the world... Maybe too low.
eat shit
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fianlly, im not the only one with a FICA score in the 5 hundo's
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The markets were up an almost +62 today.....can't wait to see what Monday brings.....fuck!
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Still want to blame Bush?
He did leave things in great shape. ::) Bush was a joke.
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I think Putin put it just about right, what else could you call a country that firstly sells toxic assets to the rest of the world, then devalues its currency to minimise the returns to bond holders.A Global Parasite fits just about right, face it theres no recovery coming, the game of monopoly is almost up in your part of the world, and this is not a recession but a huge correction of a market that ran out of ideas 10 years ago and has been surviving on its own global pyramid scheme.
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I think Putin put it just about right, what else could you call a country that firstly sells toxic assets to the rest of the world, then devalues its currency to minimise the returns to bond holders.A Global Parasite fits just about right, face it theres no recovery coming, the game of monopoly is almost up in your part of the world, and this is not a recession but a huge correction of a market that ran out of ideas 10 years ago and has been surviving on its own global pyramid scheme.
You mean this ;D 8)
BTW, this is pretty shocking.
I woke up and found that former economic powerhouse has been downgraded! Of course it's reasonable considering the state of US economy but it's still a little shocker, I must admit.
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(http://mediaanarchist.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/a-deram-for-niggers2.jpg)
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Supposedly the downgrade has been reversed, at least for now...
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I think Putin put it just about right, what else could you call a country that firstly sells toxic assets to the rest of the world, then devalues its currency to minimise the returns to bond holders.A Global Parasite fits just about right, face it theres no recovery coming, the game of monopoly is almost up in your part of the world, and this is not a recession but a huge correction of a market that ran out of ideas 10 years ago and has been surviving on its own global pyramid scheme.
As an American I want to hate this post. However, its actually spot on. The sociopaths who make up the American government need to be called out and brought down.
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The easiest way to solve this problem is population control of some sort. I personally think those who choose not to have children should pay no taxes or should be paid in some way.
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The easiest way to solve this problem is population control of some sort. I personally think those who choose not to have children should pay no taxes or should be paid in some way.
Jews have been doing their best to genocide the White race. And if they even get close to succeeding you will see the Western World return to the dark ages. I would like to see how Jews fair in such a world. The non-white masses will kill them off to. Jews better rethink their attitude towards Whites. And really they have done enough now where it is time for a tribunal. Time to march Jews in front of the court for hate crimes against a race.
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Jews have been doing their best to genocide the White race. And if they even get close to succeeding you will see the Western World return to the dark ages. I would like to see how Jews fair in such a world. The non-white masses will kill them off to. Jews better rethink their attitude towards Whites. And really they have done enough now where it is time for a tribunal. Time to march Jews in front of the court for hate crimes against a race.
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The easiest way to solve this problem is population control of some sort. I personally think those who choose not to have children should pay no taxes or should be paid in some way.
Are you saying that this is the avg US citizen and/or member of congress now?
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Jews have been doing their best to genocide the White race. And if they even get close to succeeding you will see the Western World return to the dark ages. I would like to see how Jews fair in such a world. The non-white masses will kill them off to. Jews better rethink their attitude towards Whites. And really they have done enough now where it is time for a tribunal. Time to march Jews in front of the court for hate crimes against a race.
SHHHHHH, don't you know it's taboo to talk about Jewish supremacy?!?!
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Jews have been doing their best to genocide the White race. And if they even get close to succeeding you will see the Western World return to the dark ages. I would like to see how Jews fair in such a world. The non-white masses will kill them off to. Jews better rethink their attitude towards Whites. And really they have done enough now where it is time for a tribunal. Time to march Jews in front of the court for hate crimes against a race.
OMG, you are right, they want to rule the universe
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Jews are the black people of the white race. ::) ::) ::)
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The Federal Reserve - devaluing your currency and creating debt since day 1.
He USA won't recover
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Haven't you Americans had enough of the FED?? Of the massive influence of the private sector? And how Lobbyists have more power than people who are voted in through democracy?? WAKE UP
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I'll entertain this for a while
How do you know there was too much spending?
Debt to GDP ratio. You far left freaks need to go away w your insane beliefs devoid of any logic, rationality or common sense.
Keynesian bs is a joke. Austrians are right.
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That downgrade has been a long time in the making...Funny how S&P loved the CDO's and CD's that got us into this mess in the first place...The irony. Just part of the handing of economic power over to China....perhaps..
interesting interview with John Huntsman on the relationship between the two countries...
http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11357
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Capitalism doesn't work. Communism isn't the answer. Population growth should be more controlled, having children should be like getting a loan, if you cant afford the repayments you cant have a child. Our western values have left us open to exploitation from people in our own countries and the third world, instead of donating food and money we should be paying for sterilisation drugs. Then at least in a generation we could make a difference instead of assisting poor starving people just repeat the cycle, this type of welfare situation are bankrupting Western society's, and are the source of most of the worlds problems along with religion.
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Capitalism doesn't work. Communism isn't the answer. Population growth should be more controlled, having children should be like getting a loan, if you cant afford the repayments you cant have a child. Our western values have left us open to exploitation from people in our own countries and the third world, instead of donating food and money we should be paying for sterilisation drugs. Then at least in a generation we could make a difference instead of assisting poor starving people just repeat the cycle, this type of welfare situation are bankrupting Western society's, and are the source of most of the worlds problems along with religion.
okay so if you loose your job or something then what, who reposses the kids
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does this mean our mortgages automatically void contract intrest rates and go up a certain percentage?
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Capitalism doesn't work. Communism isn't the answer. Population growth should be more controlled, having children should be like getting a loan, if you cant afford the repayments you cant have a child. Our western values have left us open to exploitation from people in our own countries and the third world, instead of donating food and money we should be paying for sterilisation drugs. Then at least in a generation we could make a difference instead of assisting poor starving people just repeat the cycle, this type of welfare situation are bankrupting Western society's, and are the source of most of the worlds problems along with religion.
So we should allow our government to control the state of existence? We should allow the government to control the basic foundation of life?
Personally, I'd rather live dirt poor than to ever live under such authority and I say that as an individual who grew up poor.
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Still want to blame Bush?
what do you think of military spending? would you be in favor of ending these wars?
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what do you think of military spending? would you be in favor of ending these wars?
Obama expanded the wars and started new ones.
Additionally, Military spending in one of the few things the federal govt is supposed to do. The rest is mostly bullshit.
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Obama expanded the wars and started new ones.
Additionally, Military spending in one of the few things the federal govt is supposed to do. The rest is mostly bullshit.
Military spending at What level are you refering to? Usa spending more then the rest of the world combined? thats Okay?
being stationed in a good 40 random countries? thats fine? how much does that cost each day to keep up? I heard the war costs 200 million a day, what about all the bases combined in all the countries? I just dont understand the point. Focus on America and make shit better for once.
America seems like a powerful child thats not mature enough to control their spending.. and no one is allowed to point it out.. because the military are afterall fighting for your freedom in 20 countries ::)
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Military spending at What level are you refering to? Usa spending more then the rest of the world combined? thats Okay?
being stationed in a good 40 random countries? thats fine? how much does that cost each day to keep up? I heard the war costs 200 million a day, what about all the bases combined in all the countries? I just dont understand the point. Focus on America and make shit better for once.
lmao @ "Swede" being an expert in politics and economics ;D
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lmao @ "Swede" being an expert in politics and economics ;D
hahaha
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Military spending at What level are you refering to? Usa spending more then the rest of the world combined? thats Okay?
being stationed in a good 40 random countries? thats fine? how much does that cost each day to keep up? I heard the war costs 200 million a day, what about all the bases combined in all the countries? I just dont understand the point. Focus on America and make shit better for once.
America seems like a powerful child thats not mature enough to control their spending.. and no one is allowed to point it out.. because the military are afterall fighting for your freedom in 20 countries ::)
Oh I agree we spend way too much.
However, the far left commies like Obama/Pelosi etc want to use that money for more welfare and bullshit social programs, not reduce the debt and deficit.
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It's like a broken record with college age kids being left and liberal. They repeat the left chant that you're stupid if you don't agree with them. They do have all the left university professors and almost the entire liberal media in their camp. If fair and balanced Fox goes there will be no one representing sanity and all media will be for Obama and his crew 100%.
When the economy was sailing along great during the Clinton era none of the left said it's because of what he inherited from Reagan. Now they blame Bush for everything that looks bad for 0bama. Why the double standard?
Half of the citizens of this country pay no taxes. I guarantee you they all vote democratic. The weaker this country gets the stronger the left gets with their promises of using tax payer money to take care of everyone.
In a way I hope Obama gets reelected again. When this country is wrecked they won't be able to blame the republicans. We got Reagan because of Carter.
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Military spending at What level are you refering to? Usa spending more then the rest of the world combined? thats Okay?
being stationed in a good 40 random countries? thats fine? how much does that cost each day to keep up? I heard the war costs 200 million a day, what about all the bases combined in all the countries? I just dont understand the point. Focus on America and make shit better for once.
America seems like a powerful child thats not mature enough to control their spending.. and no one is allowed to point it out.. because the military are afterall fighting for your freedom in 20 countries ::)
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why cant more americans think like that? lol.
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Oh I agree we spend way too much.
However, the far left commies like Obama/Pelosi etc want to use that money for more welfare and bullshit social programs, not reduce the debt and deficit.
try getting your 'facts' straight...for once. ::)
Who increased National Debt?
Reagan: Debt spending up 189%
Bush 1: Debt spending up 55%
Clinton: Debt spending up 37%
Bush 2: Debt spending up 115%
Obama: Debt spending up 16%
Source: Treasury Department
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Military spending at What level are you refering to? Usa spending more then the rest of the world combined? thats Okay?
being stationed in a good 40 random countries? thats fine? how much does that cost each day to keep up? I heard the war costs 200 million a day, what about all the bases combined in all the countries? I just dont understand the point. Focus on America and make shit better for once.
America seems like a powerful child thats not mature enough to control their spending.. and no one is allowed to point it out.. because the military are afterall fighting for your freedom in 20 countries ::)
We'll gladly stop supporting Europe who seems to have had no problem renting our military out for Libya. Then your already bankrupt countries can take further losses when they have to spend their own money on defense.
LOL @ someone from Europe lecturing Americans on debt. The EU is a c\/nt-hair away from complete implosion and still Europeans think they're in a position to lecture Americans.
How many countries in Europe are completely insolvent? For starters, the PIIGS and England. Eventually France and Germany after they just signed their fates away on the EFSF this week.
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Italy is one canoli away from collapse as well.
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Who increased National Debt?
Reagan: Debt spending up 189%
Bush 1: Debt spending up 55%
Clinton: Debt spending up 37%
Bush 2: Debt spending up 115%
Obama: Debt spending up 16%
Source: Treasury Department
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We'll gladly stop supporting Europe
What does Entire europe has to do with me you dummy? You know europe is not one country right? sweden seems to be doing fine. Cant say the same for greece, but what does greece has to do with me haha. American reasoning lol.
Are you saying Im wrong? wouldnt cutting down on the military help americans or are every single cent of what they're spending completly necessary?
keep it on topic if you could manage ::)
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Where did I say you were wrong? I'm saying that you aren't in a position to lecture us. We need to stop spending on our military and we can begin by cutting ties with the Europeans countries in NATO, the majority of which, despite making a commitment to spend 2% of GDP on defense as part of membership, come in well under that. Even with them relying on our military for everything (renting us out for Libya), they're STILL bankrupt.
Typical European hiding from the EU's complete failure.
Sweden is part of the EU, so no, you're not doing "fine". The only thing saving Sweden is the fact that they were smartest enough to stay off the Euro.
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sweden seems to be doing fine.
What's your contribution to that? Serious question.
typical american behaviour changing the point lol.
You seem to have a finger on the pulse of American thought. We could use someone like you for some of our branding strategies. Please PM me your resume so I can see your qualifications.
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So why did you respond and start talking about stuff I didn't ask ???
europe is obviously fucking something up... And so is america, but seems like no one in america Dares to admit anything close to that their country has done anything at All that isn't 100% correct.
And thats probably part of teh problemo
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You seem to have a finger on the pulse of American thought. We could use someone like you for some of our branding strategies. Please PM me your resume so I can see your qualifications.
Are you saying Im wrong? wouldnt cutting down on the military help americans or are every single cent of what they're spending completly necessary?
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why cant more americans think like that? lol.
most americans are mindless robots who believe everything their told.
^^^ americans were told fire brought down this building on 9/11. ::)
^^^ now look at this fire in Madrid Spain and its remains. ;)
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Are you saying Im wrong? wouldnt cutting down on the military help americans or are every single cent of what they're spending completly necessary?
Maybe maybe not. The problem is that we have a $1.5 TRILLION deficit. That is deficit!
Yes we need to cut back EVERYTHING, however, to simply state that the defense spending is the main cause of the problem is pure nonsense,
Plus, the commies and mini-madoffs like Obama and Pelosi dont want to use cuts in defense to save money or shrink govt, they want to use that money for social welfare somelse.
And if we are spending money, I rather it go to defense than the lazy thugs, slugs, leeches, skells, public employee unions, and entitlement parasites.
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to simply state that the defense spending is the main cause of the problem is pure nonsense,
I dont recall doing that
my point of brining it up is thats its something that could probably be cut down on Right away, witout it affecting your "saftey" At All.
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So why did you respond and start talking about stuff I didn't ask ???
europe is obviously fucking something up... And so is america, but seems like no one in america Dares to admit anything close to that their country has done anything at All that isn't 100% correct.
And thats probably part of teh problemo
swede, the clowns from politic's ALWAYS change the subject.
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I dont recall doing that
my point of brining it up is thats its something that could probably be cut down on Right away, witout it affecting your "saftey" At All.
I agree. I was not accusing you of saying its the sole reason, but to here many in this country talk who are leftists, they blame everything on defense.
we need across the board cuts in EVERYTHING.
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Are you saying Im wrong? wouldnt cutting down on the military help americans or are every single cent of what they're spending completly necessary?
No. Military spending is one of the places that cuts will have to be made. I'm referring to your constant barrage of generalizations concerning American thought, as as if the country is of one single mindset.
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No. Military spending is one of the places that cuts will have to be made. I'm referring to your constant barrage of generalizations concerning American thought, as as if the country is of one single mindset.
provoking ofc. But almost all seem to super support the military =)
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provoking ofc. But almost all seem to super support the military =)
I know you're just provoking, it doesn't really bother me.
But, of course we support the military, why wouldn't we?
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Maybe maybe not. The problem is that we have a $1.5 TRILLION deficit. That is deficit!
Yes we need to cut back EVERYTHING, however, to simply state that the defense spending is the main cause of the problem is pure nonsense,
Plus, the commies and mini-madoffs like Obama and Pelosi dont want to use cuts in defense to save money or shrink govt, they want to use that money for social welfare somelse.
And if we are spending money, I rather it go to defense than the lazy thugs, slugs, leeches, skells, public employee unions, and entitlement parasites.
wrong again.
to date Bush's 9/11 BS Wars have cost 5 TRILLION DOLLARS!
Who increased National Debt?
Reagan: Debt spending up 189%
Bush 1: Debt spending up 55%
Clinton: Debt spending up 37%
Bush 2: Debt spending up 115%
Obama: Debt spending up 16%
Source: Treasury Department
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I know you're just provoking, it doesn't really bother me.
But, of course we support the military, why wouldn't we?
support military yes, but support All the spending that they do? =)
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wrong again.
to date Bush's 9/11 BS Wars have cost 5 TRILLION DOLLARS!
Who increased National Debt?
Reagan: Debt spending up 189%
Bush 1: Debt spending up 55%
Clinton: Debt spending up 37%
Bush 2: Debt spending up 115%
Obama: Debt spending up 16%
Source: Treasury Department
Please correlate your post with the this graph and tells us the disconnect:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=390928.0;attach=422573;image)
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support military yes, but support All the spending that they do? =)
Do you have the impression that we all sit in a room and high five when we hear about opening a new base overseas?
What are you basing the notion on that most American support excessive spending?
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No, it was all alone Obama's fault.
If you have no clue about economics, why not just STFU, "Coach"?
Stick to giving training advice.
Agreed. This Coach guy is probably the dumbest guy on Getbig besides Johnny Falcon.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Do you have the impression that we all sit in a room and high five when we hear about opening a new base overseas?
What are you basing the notion on that most American support excessive spending?
Since I never heard anyone mention the spending at all, only how much of heroes everyone are etc etc etc.
Then again Im only watching events
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Please correlate your post with the this graph and tells us the disconnect:
my numbers come from treasury department.
look it up.
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Why are you guys discussing with an absolute idiot with the IQ of a chimp
QFT...Coach is the dumbest ever. Seriously.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Since I never heard anyone mention the spending at all, only how much of heroes everyone are etc etc etc.
Then again Im only watching events
You have one of the staunchest right wingers here (333), in this thread, agreeing that military spending needs to be cut.
You're taking isolated media events and conveying them into what you want to believe it's like here.
But, most of those guys doing there job in the field ARE heroes, regardless. They don't make policy, but that's off topic and I don't want to discuss it here.
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The reason the downgrade was due to interference from the far right to get a budget established sooner rather than at the very last minute. I don't blame the general group GOP or Democrats but the far right lunatics.
Standard and Poor warned for months of the credit downgrade in advance if the debt ceiling was not raised. They inserted themselves into the argument and prevented the GOP from making the original deal that was set up and instead demanded things that simply was not going to fly. The fact that Boehner's plan was voted down by his own party in the House just shows just how bad the Tea Party.
Radicals, whether they are from the left wing or right wing are the ones who do not have the countries best interest and will drag us to damnation just to win.
The Tea Party got what they wanted and this is the end result. When you go to the polls this year, vote for common sense. Vote for people who are willing to compromise for the good of the nation. Proposing absolutes never get anywhere.
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my numbers come from treasury department.
look it up.
I wasn't asking you for the source, you listed that. Your chart shows less deficit %s by Obama, 333's post shows the debt increasing under Obama. The numbers are of different context.
Since you posted it, I'm asking you to translate the data and explain it.
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The reason the downgrade was due to interference from the far right to get a budget established sooner rather than at the very last minute. I don't blame the general group GOP or Democrats but the far right lunatics.
Standard and Poor warned for months of the credit downgrade in advance if the debt ceiling was not raised. They inserted themselves into the argument and prevented the GOP from making the original deal that was set up and instead demanded things that simply was not going to fly. The fact that Boehner's plan was voted down by his own party in the House just shows just how bad the Tea Party.
Radicals, whether they are from the left wing or right wing are the ones who do not have the countries best interest and will drag us to damnation just to win.
The Tea Party got what they wanted and this is the end result. When you go to the polls this year, vote for common sense. Vote for people who are willing to compromise for the good of the nation. Proposing absolutes never get anywhere.
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The graph accounts for the amount of deficit but we certainly did not accumulate all of the debt within a period of 2 years. Fact being is that you cannot blame the current president for bills that were already there for a war he didn't start or an economic recession that was just beginning. The only thing he's guilty of is being the loser of the game of "Hot Potato".... ::)
Get rid of radicals, vote for common sense.
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my numbers come from treasury department.
look it up.
Can you trust the TD?
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http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
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Where did I say you were wrong? I'm saying that you aren't in a position to lecture us. We need to stop spending on our military and we can begin by cutting ties with the Europeans countries in NATO, the majority of which, despite making a commitment to spend 2% of GDP on defense as part of membership, come in well under that. Even with them relying on our military for everything (renting us out for Libya), they're STILL bankrupt.
Typical European hiding from the EU's complete failure.
Sweden is part of the EU, so no, you're not doing "fine". The only thing saving Sweden is the fact that they were smartest enough to stay off the Euro.
Ha ha you typical dumb stupid American fukwit. The EU is simply a group of countries who have a trading relationship which mean goods and services can pass between the member countries without being affected by import duties etc. Member country citizens can work freely in all member countries. We have a few other trading rules. That is all the EU is. Sweden and the UK have been smart enough to retain their own currencies therefore they keep control of the interest rates used in their own countries.
The Euro countries all have to have the same interest rates in place so cannot use interest rate adjustment to make the fiscal changes required by their individual economy. The Euro countries are fucked. UK and Sweden were smart enough to avoid this. Germany would love to return to the Deutsche Marke.
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Incidently, and for what its worth, the day prior to all the Icelandic Banks collapsing in 2008 they were all rated AAA by......Standard and Poor..
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my numbers come from treasury department.
look it up.
BUMP
I wasn't asking you for the source, you listed that. Your chart shows less deficit %s by Obama, 333's post shows the debt increasing under Obama. The numbers are of different context.
Since you posted it, I'm asking you to translate the data and explain it.
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That's what I thought, Blacken. You just post stuff and don't understand the context of it.
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Ha ha you typical dumb stupid American fukwit. The EU is simply a group of countries who have a trading relationship which mean goods and services can pass between the member countries without being affected by import duties etc. Member country citizens can work freely in all member countries. We have a few other trading rules. That is all the EU is. Sweden and the UK have been smart enough to retain their own currencies therefore they keep control of the interest rates used in their own countries.
The Euro countries all have to have the same interest rates in place so cannot use interest rate adjustment to make the fiscal changes required by their individual economy. The Euro countries are fucked. UK and Sweden were smart enough to avoid this. Germany would love to return to the Deutsche Marke.
And? England is broke. Or did you miss the memo on their austerity measures? ::)
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BUMP
I wasn't asking you for the source, you listed that. Your chart shows less deficit %s by Obama, 333's post shows the debt increasing under Obama. The numbers are of different context.
Since you posted it, I'm asking you to translate the data and explain it.
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
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http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
In your own words, Blacken you posted a graph showing Obama's debt spending decreasing as a % compared to something, but the other chart shows the actual dollars going sky high. Please explain the correlation.
I believe the hour you've had is plenty of time to google.
Or, you could just say you really don't know and we can be done with this.
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The easiest way to solve this problem is population control of some sort. I personally think those who choose not to have children should pay no taxes or should be paid in some way.
So, do you have a problem with the Mexican's? Do you have a problem with people who recieve food stamp's and no motivation to get a job? ??? I mean, a job at Ingles, Bi-Lo or Wal-Mart is still a job.
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The easiest way to solve this problem is population control of some sort. I personally think those who choose not to have children should pay no taxes or should be paid in some way.
Dude, that's a ver ver very stupid thing to say. What you actually need is population growth to expand the tax base and increase the number of people paying into social security as opposed to collecting it.
If you don't know of what you speak, it's better to stay quiet
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most americans are mindless robots who believe everything their told.
^^^ americans were told fire brought down this building on 9/11. ::)
^^^ now look at this fire in Madrid Spain and its remains. ;)
THIS
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646
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Yes...it was all coincedence that the market took a and we were down graded right after the debt ceiling vote!
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The easiest way to solve this problem is population control of some sort. I personally think those who choose not to have children should pay no taxes or should be paid in some way.
i like this idea... get a veasectory and you pay 5% taxes for life... hmmmm
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yes population control is needed.
there just isn't enough earth to go around for too many people whether there is money or not in the end what matters is resources, once they're used up, that's it, no bail out or paying your way out.
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Philly Eagles fault. They had to go upsetting the free agent market with another "dream team", and now look what happened.
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Philly Eagles fault. They had to go upsetting the free agent market with another "dream team", and now look what happened.
:D :D
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(http://www.noisyroom.net/blog/mywork.jpg)
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Land of the
free debt, and now they're bitching which individual is responsible for that ::)
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yes population control is needed.
there just isn't enough earth to go around for too many people whether there is money or not in the end what matters is resources, once they're used up, that's it, no bail out or paying your way out.
I've probably eaten more calories in my first 25 years then I would need in my whole life to live. How many calories does the human body really need to survive? And we haven't even scratched the surface about how high we could build into the skies. I'm guessing a thousand calories a day would be plenty to survive in a lifetime. However I like TA's idea of people who decide not to have kids not paying taxes.
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i like this idea... get a veasectory and you pay 5% taxes for life... hmmmm
Would never work... Does that mean the second your kid turns 18 and has his own job you can stop paying those taxes?
Negative.
Plus, it's paying it forward, as children you used the tax money of others to go to school or what have you at times, so now you're simply paying it back.
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Plus, it's paying it forward, as children you used the tax money of others to go to school or what have you at times, so now you're simply paying it back.
The problem is you aren't just paying for your own kid, you're paying for everyone else. This at the core of the problem with socialism and why it has NEVER worked throughout history. History clearly defines and shows us time and time again that free markets and true capitilism is what allows innovation and frees the people from the chains of stifled growth that socialism promotes.
And don't even ramble on with the MIchael More rhetoric that capitlism is what caused these problems because America hasn't been a capitlistic country in decades. We're in a state of pure corporitism and fascism and have been for about 30 some odd years. In a true capilist society the banks would have failed, the government would have never attempted to stimulate the economy (which it never should have to begin with) and the markets would have corrected themselves. Instead we have massive government interference with the bailouts increasing our national debt beyond repayence along with intervention into the market with the stimuls which has done absolutely nothing to promote growth and not only delay but tremendously worsen the effect of market correction.
Hold on tight, this is just the beginning. Things will be worse this week than last and will only get worse as the weeks go on.
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The problem is you aren't just paying for your own kid, you're paying for everyone else. This at the core of the problem with socialism and why it has NEVER worked throughout history. History clearly defines and shows us time and time again that free markets and true capitilism is what allows innovation and frees the people from the chains of stifled growth that socialism promotes.
And don't even ramble on with the MIchael More rhetoric that capitlism is what caused these problems because America hasn't been a capitlistic country in decades. We're in a state of pure corporitism and fascism and have been for about 30 some odd years. In a true capilist society the banks would have failed, the government would have never attempted to stimulate the economy (which it never should have to begin with) and the markets would have corrected themselves. Instead we have massive government interference with the bailouts increasing our national debt beyond repayence along with intervention into the market with the stimuls which has done absolutely nothing to promote growth and not only delay but tremendously worsen the effect of market correction.
Hold on tight, this is just the beginning. Things will be worse this week than last and will only get worse as the weeks go on.
What kind of "history" does capitalism have? Honest question, whats the history of true capitalism?
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What kind of "history" does capitalism have? Honest question, whats the history of true capitalism?
I don't know but when it comes to education, people have been using "society" to pay for it for a long time.
School teachers have always been paid by the community... even in little house on the prairie days.
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What kind of "history" does capitalism have? Honest question, whats the history of true capitalism?
You can't seriously ask this question can you? The U.S. throughout the early 20th century was about as capitalistic as it comes when talking about free markets. We flourished on all levels from manufacturing, education, to science and engineering. Once the government began meddling in these areas through over regulation which caused exportation of American jobs to other countries as well as installing failed institutions such as the Department of Education which caused tremendous increases in tuition and a tremendous loss in quality we began to sink down the toilet. We fell into corporatism where the government services the desires of their own bank accounts over the people.
People have this idea that they don't mind pitching in their fair share but that idea is fatally flawed when the people your pitching your money to put it in their own pockets. You may think it's ok to spend someone else s money, but remember, the government is spending yours. When has the government ever ran a successful program? Medicare, medicaid, social security all the way down to cash for clunkers, all massive complete failures of epic proportions.
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This is what happens when you overextend your borders and play world police. Like all other great empires.
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This is what happens when you overextend your borders and play world police. Like all other great empires.
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!! We are the modern day Roman empire. People will look back at our crumbling senate hall and capital buildings (which look strikingly Greek/Roman) and say "America had a nice little run".
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Exactly!!!!!!!!!!! We are the modern day Roman empire. People will look back at our crumbling senate hall and capital buildings (which look strikingly Greek/Roman) and say "America had a nice little run".
Don't insult the great Roman epoch by calling your short phase of immature self-importance an Empire.
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f you do any research and know the facts its bush's fucked all policies are screwing us over with the massive spending. The thing is obama cant do nothing about a number of policies already in place by the previous president. Sure obama can make some changes but he cant do a whole lot. He doesnt know what to do really since he cant do nothing about the bush spending era that is still going on, a very weak president
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f you do any research and know the facts its bush's fucked all policies are screwing us over with the massive spending. The thing is obama cant do nothing about a number of policies already in place by the previous president. Sure obama can make some changes but he cant do a whole lot. He doesnt know what to do really since he cant do nothing about the bush spending era that is still going on, a very weak president
FAIL
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Obama expanded the wars and started new ones.
Additionally, Military spending in one of the few things the federal govt is supposed to do. The rest is mostly bullshit.
LOL...
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Daddywaddy used to be ripped, can't believe he's carrying a spare tire now. Funny ass video though... ;D
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LOL...
Yes or no - did he expand Afghanistan and start a new war in Libyia?
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Yes or no - did he expand Afghanistan and start a new war in Libyia?
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LMAO!
So what are we doing in lybia?
And are those extra 30,000 troops in Afghanistan a mirage?
LMAO - pure comedy from you.
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Yes or no - did he expand Afghanistan and start a new war in Libyia?
No...in fact he cleared out most of the personnel from the Iraq war. But there has not been a year in the history of the United States where we have not been involved in some international conflict.
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No...in fact he cleared out most of the personnel from the Iraq war. But there has not been a year in the history of the United States where we have not been involved in some international conflict.
LMFAO! Priceless.
Really - just priceless. Obama did not do shit about Iraq but follow the Bush timetable that was in place when he assumed office.
And you are arguing he didnt expand Afghanistan? Now you 95ers are just lying your asses off just to dick suck obama.
Lybia? What are we doing there?
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1. The first priority of a President is to protect the country.
2. Only someone who believes that we can reason and make nice nice with the very people who want to destroy us on a daily basis see's a problem with this chart.
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Actually, yes. But something was bound to give with all the spending.
I didn't hear you the first time...
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1. The first priority of a President is to protect the country.
2. Only someone who believes that we can reason and make nice nice with the very people who want to destroy us on a daily basis see's a problem with this chart.
YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT
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YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT
So I've been told by every 20 something year old "progressive" on here....but I'm not wrong.
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1. The first priority of a President is to protect the country.
2. Only someone who believes that we can reason and make nice nice with the very people who want to destroy us on a daily basis see's a problem with this chart.
The problem Coach is that you should really stick to training advices as you clearly know shit about economy. If you had been working in finance or real estate at high level you would know a thing or two but obviosuly you don't and it has nothing to do with being progressive or not.
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The problem Coach is that you should really stick to training advices as you clearly know shit about economy. If you had been working in finance or real estate at high level you would know a thing or two but obviosuly you don't and it has nothing to do with being progressive or not.
Yeah - cause it takes a Harvard MBA to understand that you can't spend .43 on the dollar in borrowed money forever. ::) ::) ::)
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And you just started doing that recently, have you?
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I thought it was Bush fault? Now Obama is blaming the tea party for this, ::) will he ever do anything but blaming someone else?
Pathetic :D
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And you just started doing that recently, have you?
Yes.
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The problem Coach is that you should really stick to training advices as you clearly know shit about economy. If you had been working in finance or real estate at high level you would know a thing or two but obviosuly you don't and it has nothing to do with being progressive or not.
Am I an expert? No. But I look at how this could effect my business and my families future. You don't have to be an expert to know whats going on. But being in business (like most everyone in business) you better know shit about the economy so saying that isn't fair. My training advices, although not on here directly effects my business.
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Actually you have to be at least a bit knowledgeable about this. A simple opinion is just an opinion. When did the subrime mortgage crisis hit you BTW? The financial crisis didn't start with Obama but he's had to deal with that. Anyone of you is familiar with words like recession or stagflation, very basic economical terms? Your economy like most western economies has been on the razor's edge for almost 40 years now. Your judging with a fucked up eyesight, that's what your doing.
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Actually you have to be at least a bit knowledgeable about this. A simple opinion is just an opinion. When did the subrime mortgage crisis hit you BTW? The financial crisis didn't start with Obama but he's had to deal with that. Anyone of you is familiar with words like recession or stagflation, very basic economical terms? Your economy like most western economies has been on the razor's edge for almost 40 years now. Your judging with a fucked up eyesight, that's what your doing.
Obama hasnt dealt with anything! He spent the first year and a half on the bogus stim bill as well as health care instead of the economy.
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Obama hasnt dealt with anything! He spent the first year and a half on the bogus stim bill as well as health care instead of the economy.
As if a Keynesian plan could produce effects in a year and a half. Everybody all around the globe, the financial system first actually, was begging for governments to pour a shitload of money in the system. Just face it, your economy has been fucked up for a much longer time than you want to admit. You're just starting to realize that. The worst is yet to come.
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As if a Keynesian plan could produce effects in a year and a half. Everybody all around the globe, the financial system first actually, was begging for governments to pour a shitload of money in the system. Just face it, your economy has been fucked up for a much longer time than you want to admit. You're just starting to realize that. The worst is yet to come.
::) ::)
Please - Kenyanomics does not work. the Stim Bill was at best a hodge podge of nonsense. ObamaCare is a disaster.
He has done everything possible to make things worse.
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Mortalcoil, other countries are not only think Obama is stupid for all the spending they're also laughing their asses off.
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LMAO!
So what are we doing in lybia?
And are those extra 30,000 troops in Afghanistan a mirage?
LMAO - pure comedy from you.
Yes... that Libya case was a total FAIL
USA was supposed to stay out of there and let other NATO countries do the job at once.
Well... as we all know now, other countries FAILED big time and totally and USA was forced to take part in operation.
Look, americanos! Your allies suck big time. Without America, NATO is total pussy!!! Useless without US.
They ran out of bombs there, no suitable petrol for some planes was available... total comedy! And opponent was practically unarmed Libya. War has still not ended LOL ;D
Not denying facts here:
USA is military superpower. Your allies are useless though, as we saw in Libya.
Look, here:
http://www.newser.com/story/116527/nato-jets-running-out-of-bombs-in-libya.html
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Mortalcoil, other countries are not only think Obama is stupid for all the spending they're also laughing their asses off.
Not true. Actually in Europe, Obama is way more respected than Bush was eventhoguh he is a disappointment. But you have no idea how much Europeans and let's not even talk about the rest of the world laughed at Bush. Kenyanomics like any other ecnomic policy will or wil not work according to the circumstances. It can't work as effectively as it did once because the geeral entropy of the systemn is at a much higher level. But he's not the only one to blame.
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Only these fucking republicans monkeys kids raised through the Tea piss Party.
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Yawn. Our rating would have been lowered far sooner if the GOP did not take over the house of reps.
Why can't you communist pukes understand that you cant spend .43 on the dollar in borrowed money?
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Yawn. Our rating would have been lowered far sooner if the GOP did not take over the house of reps.
Why can't you communist pukes understand that you cant spend .43 on the dollar in borrowed money?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
If you only knew.
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Obama hasnt dealt with anything! He spent the first year and a half on the bogus stim bill as well as health care instead of the economy.
Ne he did not. Obama spent the first year and a half making Basketball tourney sheets which completely flopped.
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Ne he did not. Obama spent the first year and a half making Basketball tourney sheets which completely flopped.
Every time Obama rooted for a team in the NCAA, they lost.
Fucked my VCU Rams over big time.
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Every time Obama rooted for a team in the NCAA, they lost.
Fucked my VCU Rams over big time.
GTFO 2012 8)
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Am I an expert? No. But I look at how this could effect my business and my families future. You don't have to be an expert to know whats going on. But being in business (like most everyone in business) you better know shit about the economy so saying that isn't fair. My training advices, although not on here directly effects my business.
try this coach, stop posting ALL day and adjust your portfolio to reflect current economic conditions.
btw- didn't you buy real estate at TOP of the housing bubble? ???
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LOL..I don't post all day. When I get a few minutes, I post.
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1. The first priority of a President is to protect the country.
2. Only someone who believes that we can reason and make nice nice with the very people who want to destroy us on a daily basis see's a problem with this chart.
from who? from what? collapsing buildings that defy the Laws of Science/Gravity? ???
you're an idiot coach.
shut off Faux News and come back to reality.
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And here comes the CT nut cases...hahaha.
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LMFAO! Priceless.
Really - just priceless. Obama did not do shit about Iraq but follow the Bush timetable that was in place when he assumed office.
And you are arguing he didnt expand Afghanistan? Now you 95ers are just lying your asses off just to dick suck obama.
Lybia? What are we doing there?
If McCain was elected, there would have been no change in where we are now.
3333386, you really are beginning to come unglued.
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If McCain was elected, there would have been no change in where we are now.
3333386, you really are beginning to come unglued.
Nice deflection. Again - you could not refute one point I made.
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All Vince knows is that Obama is black and that's good enough for him. Never mind the fact he can't balance a checkbook.
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All Vince knows is that Obama is black and that's good enough for him. Never mind the fact he can't balance a checkbook.
Did you see my article about Obama's 100 k gazebo?
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All Vince knows is that Obama is black and that's good enough for him. Never mind the fact he can't balance a checkbook.
I'm sorry if you keep assuming that I voted for Obama because he's black. Perhaps you should do yourself a favor and see my Facebook page
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Then why do you keep defending him?
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Then why do you keep defending him?
Because the first black POTUS can't go down as the worst POTUS of all time. Very simple after you sift through all the other bogus excuses of these people.
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Then why do you keep defending him?
Clarifying false information that's given out about Obama is not an endorsement. Spanking 333386 across the ass for his racist comments doesn't make me a Democrat...in fact most Republicans would distance themselves from a character like him.
When Bush was in office, I did the same thing. I've even mentioned just 2 weeks ago about his policies in which they would have worked if the tax cuts the wealthy received were used to create jobs. Of course, we know that instead of doing so, they pocketed the money and continued to ship jobs overseas.
Unfortunately, I don't have many good things to say about the GOP at this present time. Its gone so far right that it basically outweighs the actual value of fiscal responsibility. People who demand absolutes will never reach a suitable outcome. I hate the Tea Party because they are in my opinion a group of racist anarchist trying to disguise themselves as Republicans. They have no respect for civility or any professional tact whatsoever.
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Because the first black POTUS can't go down as the worst POTUS of all time. Very simple after you sift through all the other bogus excuses of these people.
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Well, be prepared to have 4 more years of Obama....especially if the GOP continues to keep the steering wheel at a hard right.
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Well, be prepared to have 4 more years of Obama....especially if the GOP continues to keep the steering wheel at a hard right.
Ha ha ha !!!!
you tools said the same thing before the midterms. Typhoid Barry is done.
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Clarifying false information that's given out about Obama is not an endorsement. Spanking 333386 across the ass for his racist comments doesn't make me a Democrat...in fact most Republicans would distance themselves from a character like him.
When Bush was in office, I did the same thing. I've even mentioned just 2 weeks ago about his policies in which they would have worked if the tax cuts the wealthy received were used to create jobs. Of course, we know that instead of doing so, they pocketed the money and continued to ship jobs overseas.
Unfortunately, I don't have many good things to say about the GOP at this present time. Its gone so far right that it basically outweighs the actual value of fiscal responsibility. People who demand absolutes will never reach a suitable outcome. I hate the Tea Party because they are in my opinion a group of racist anarchist trying to disguise themselves as Republicans. They have no respect for civility or any professional tact whatsoever.
I did not nor did 333 say anything that was factually inaccurate.
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Ha ha ha !!!!
you tools said the same thing before the midterms. Typhoid Barry is done.
And there lies the problem. The Tea Party Controlled GOP took control of the House and here we are in the situation currently. The Tea Party is going to scare away all the moderates and independents. Not only that, there is no strong contender that is even matching Obama according to Real Clear Politics. He's still beating all of them by at least 9 points and that's bad considering that the campaign is not even in full swing.
At this point and time based on figures, unless the GOP turns the steering wheel back to the left a bit, its going to be a shit sandwich and everyone is going to have to take a meaty bite
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And there lies the problem. The Tea Party Controlled GOP took control of the House and here we are in the situation currently. The Tea Party is going to scare away all the moderates and independents. Not only that, there is no strong contender that is even matching Obama according to Real Clear Politics. He's still beating all of them by at least 9 points and that's bad considering that the campaign is not even in full swing.
At this point and time based on figures, unless the GOP turns the steering wheel back to the left a bit, its going to be a shit sandwich and everyone is going to have to take a meaty bite
LMFAO!!!!!
Ha ha ha ha - Typhoid Barry is at 35% or so with indes right now.
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I did not nor did 333 say anything that was factually inaccurate.
333 has stated a lot of bullshit and a number of racist comments. I've not seen you say much inaccurate information nor have you made any racist comments. My issue with your politics Coach is that you listen to Rush Limbaugh when in fact, he would not give a rat's ass about you. He's a snob for profit and entertainment just like Bill Mahar, Steve Colbert, Glenn Beck, and John Stewart. They only say what they say for purposes of attracting viewers and making money.
I've worked for people like them, their narcissism is reprehensible and quite frankly when the cameras are off, I would not be surprised if they all got together and smoked cigars laughing at how they got over on all of us regular people
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The markets have shown that the credit downgrade means nothing in terms of the borrowing ability of the US. By markets i mean government bond/treasury markets.
The stock markets have melted down however, and has tanked during his speech even yesterday (because he said nothing, just mumbled).
Now, every economic move, right or wrong, is only declared as such by the loudest mouth. If the right continues to bash Obama's administration for the downgrade, it will be conceived as such by the sheep, whether right or wrong.
He cannot blame Bush anymore. Every time he does that, he sounds more stupid. He was literally in hiding during the downgrade as it took him 16 hours to acknowledge it. He cancelled his press conference and the daily white house briefing today.
If Bernanke says anything shy of "i am printing 10 trillion dollars tonight to inflate the stock market", the markets will plunge again. If he does say that, how will that fare for Obama's future?
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Stock Market came back with vengence. Up 429 Points ending at 11239!! Hooray!!!
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Stock Market came back with vengence. Up 429 Points ending at 11239!! Hooray!!!
Oh yeah - Fed Reserve to the rescue - lets devalue the dollar even more.
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-322 as of right now Vince, talk about instability!!
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Oh yeah - Fed Reserve to the rescue - lets devalue the dollar even more.
hahaha,,,,you calaim as president obama controls the USA,,,so when things turn positive he gerts no credit,,things go bad he gets all the credit,,,now as vince said you are racist,,,I remember when Bush was in office,,you said specifically,,,
the market will NOT crash and will prosper thanks to Bush laying the ground work for now on,,,,hahahahha
anothner quote by you fella,,,''''Bush is the greatest president to serve the USA'''
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hahaha,,,,you calaim as president obama controls the USA,,,so when things turn positive he gerts no credit,,things go bad he gets all the credit,,,now as vince said you are racist,,,I remember when Bush was in office,,you said specifically,,,
the market will NOT crash and will prosper thanks to Bush laying the ground work for now on,,,,hahahahha
anothner quote by you fella,,,''''Bush is the greatest president to serve the USA'''
Please bump my post saying that. Should be easy to do.
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-322 as of right now Vince, talk about instability!!
It will go up and down for about a week until it stabilities. But there's a lot of people making a ton of money off this. Having 2 days of buying low and selling high will make stockbrokers millions....perhaps billions.
But that's the way the stock market goes. I'm going to be busy today setting up first ecommerce store on Facebook. By the end of the day hopefully, everyone will be able to buy my line of products from Caliber Fitness Solutions directly off of Facebook.
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It will go up and down for about a week until it stabilities. But there's a lot of people making a ton of money off this. Having 2 days of buying low and selling high will make stockbrokers millions....perhaps billions.
But that's the way the stock market goes. I'm going to be busy today setting up first ecommerce store on Facebook. By the end of the day hopefully, everyone will be able to buy my line of products from Caliber Fitness Solutions directly off of Facebook.
Better chance of Obama getting us back a AAA rating for sure.
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Please bump my post saying that. Should be easy to do.
lol @ the pic.