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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: The_Iron_Disciple on August 10, 2011, 07:48:41 AM
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* I'll try and sum this up quickly *
Started my first cycle roughly two months ago ( Test E / D-Bol ). First vial of Test dosed at 250 mg was painless every shot. Sometimes I'd even wonder the next day if I even shot myself. Lol. Btw, I was shootin' 1cc e5d.
Now onto the second vial dosed at 300 mg. EVERY shot gave me some significant pain for 3-4 days, however, after the 3-4 days, I was back to normal ... except for this last time. Did 2cc's this last Friday ( 600 mg's ) and felt fine. Woke up Sat. with my left ass cheek inflammed to high hell. Was hard as a rock and very hot as well as very painful to touch. Not only that, but I was runnin' a fever from hell. Sooo ... I apply cold compresses Sat. and attempt to sleep it off. Sunday comes, the " hard painful cheek " is still there and the fever is slowly dissapaitin'. Monday comes and the fever is gone. The swelling goes down, too, due to the heat pad I had used Sunday night. Hopefully, you guys are still followin' me here ??
So after ALL this BULLSHIT, I go to the hospital. With NO INSURANCE, mind you. :( :( This was yesterday, btw. Hospital draws blood from me, gives me a Cat Scan, draws some more blood, gives me some anti-biotics, etc. etc. Doc comes in and says, " We're not sure what it is. CS shows a small ball of fluid inside the inflammed area that may or may not be an abscess. So, we are going to give you some medicine, have you back in 24 hrs., and decide what to do next. We may have to put you on the cutting table. "
THIS FUCKIN' SUCKS ! My FIRST cycle, too. I've followed ALL injection protocols to the T. I don't understand how this could've happened, bro's. Which is why I'm here. The thing that sucks the most is I had went from 248 to 270 in that time and it was VERY noticeable. Now I'm just depressed and afraid to inject again. Could really use some help here. Thoughts, opinions, etc.
Btw, told Doc, when he asked, that I injected B12. After that I received a lecture from BOTH the Doc and RN about injections. Told me I got get a staph infec. from one and die instantly. So, yeah ... I'm thoroughly fuckin' depressed. I inject myself the SAME way EVERY time. Never had an issues. *
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IT'S WHAT THE TESTOSTERONE OIL IS BREWED IN. ITS NOT UR LACK OF INJECTIN PROTOCOLS, ITS THE BASE OF THE TEST. GET A BETTER BRAND WORTH OR GO FOR HG IF IT'S TESTOSTERONA.
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ASPIRATE
Had a friend recently with good gear who failed to aspirate, then shot a bolus into and around a vein that ended up being 5 cc's of blood and bolus that needed draining. Wasn't an abcess yet because he went right to the ER.
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whats the brand of your gear and what type of oil is used? probably got bad non sterile gear bro
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@ NoSleep - Interesting post. Had never looked at it that way before. Have been told to use HG, however, very hard for ME to find one. May just have to bite the bullet, go online, and buy. I don't know. :/
@ RM - Thing is, I do aspirate. Each and EVERY time. I always pull back on the plunger before I inject. And every time that I've done so, I've got nothin' but tiny little bubbles comin' back into the syringe. No blood.
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WHY DO YOU BUY IN PERSON AND WHY IS IT CONSIDERED SAFER?
ONLINE U CAN BUY..IF UR CAUGHT, U LIE AND SAY MISTAKE.
IF U BUY IN PERSON, U CANT LIE...UR DEALER PHYSICALLY KNOWS U.
PLUS IT MAY CHEAPER.
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You could be having a reaction to the oil or the BA content if it is UG.
I had something similar happen with a delt shot many years ago and it went away on its own. I couldn't even lift my arm over my head for a week.
You did the right thing by going to a Doctor. The staph infection bullshit they fed you was just something to scare you away from using needles on yourself again. Most doctors use scare tactics to keep people from injecting themselves for obvious reasons.
You either have really bad luck or got some shit gear. Either way take your meds and try to relax about it.
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You weigh 270lbs? Pics? :)
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** Update **
Got out of the hospital yesterday. You should've seen the look on the doctor's faces when I told them I injected B12. LOLOLOL !!! And, of course, I was asked 6-7 times if I used steroids. And each and every time I, obviously, said no. Anyways, they threw me on a bunch of anti-biotics ( Kefleen ( sp. ? ) and Bactrin ( sp. ? ) ) and shit. The swelling has went down and the abcess doesn't hurt as much. I was also told to NOT inject in my left glute for the next 3 months. :( :(
GODDAMNIT MOTHERFUCK !!! I say that because I have no insurance and GOD ONLY KNOWS how much i'm going to be fucked for. * sigh * Oh, well. You gots to pay to play .....
@ Lesaucer - Cottonseed oil. The 250 mg bottle had the same type oil and EVERY inject was pain-free.
@ NoSleep - I'm going to buy online from now on. Until I find a SOLID source, anyways.
@ Overload - That's what I'm thinkin', too. A reaction to the oil. Is it because of the vial being 300 mg per shot instead of 250 ?? More BA for the 300 ?? And, yes, the Docs were rather pissed at me. LOL.
@ Kevcat - I don't do pics. LOL. Sorry. Besides, that's 270 at around 14 % bodyfat. I'm not ripped by any means. :( But not fat either.
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Iron_Disciple...I thought you were once a mod on this board (?)
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That sucks. That's not how a first cycle should be. Try to look at it positively, it could have been worse. :-\
I've been lucky that I haven't had an abscess so far. And I only know one guy who did; he said he shot some IP gear into his arm. Now he has a nasty scar there... they sliced it up and kept packing it with gauze until it healed.
A couple of months ago my delt swelled up and felt hard as a rock.
I was a bit freaked but since the delt wasn't hot or red I tried to calm myself down, to wait and see. It went away in a few days, luckily. Yes it was UG gear... I figured it wasn't infection due to bacteria so I used up the rest of the bottle without problems, though I put less of it in one place. Cut it with HG test too.
gh15 knows a lot about abscesses, maybe he could chime in. I know he thinks some docs like to slice up people unnesessarily.
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@ Jack - Ummm, no. I was a Mod of the Positive Bb'ing board. But then I got tired of being positive and de-moted myself. Lol.
@ VanB - Yeah, Van, the docs seemed pretty damn excited about cuttin' in to me. And I'm being serious. They just kept grillin' and grillin' me about the 'roids. Oh, and they gave me a Tetanus shot, too ! Can't even lift my left arm ! LOL ! Sick bastards !
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@ Jack - Ummm, no. I was a Mod of the Positive Bb'ing board. But then I got tired of being positive and de-moted myself. Lol.
Haha..Yes, I remember now.
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It could've been a reaction to the oil itself but it's highly unlikely. Cottonseed oil is generally a very safe oil to use. It's more than likely just the brand you're using and by more than likely I'd say the odds are near 100%. You have two bottles and if they're from the same UG line yet different batches, which they obviously were you could easily have problems with one and not the other. I also doubt high BA content was the culprit...this was simply dirty gear IMO. Even if only slightly impure some guys will simply have a bad reaction while others won't.
On another note, next time you go to the doctor or ER for something like this you should tell them exactly what you've been taking. It's not against the law and they can't arrest you if you tell them you've been taking steroids but they need to know what's in your body if they're going to treat it correctly.
Anyway, I've had the exact same thing happen to me on my right glute many years ago and it was miserable! As a younger and dumber individual at the time I "self-drained" it every day for 2wks 2 per day. I stuck it 3x each draining with an 18g needle and drained out 3cc of the nastiest yellow puss you've ever seen and then stood in the shower and let the 3 holes bleed out to relieve pressure. It hurt like nothing else each time I did this but did provide relief in the end. Anyway, I call this "stupid" now in retrospect because I could have easily made things worse with a more serious infection.
Long and short, I've had some painful injections post injection, the glute one just mentioned was the worst ever but I've had some like Overload talked about in my shoulders and each and every time it was from crappy UG product. I've never, not once had a problem from one single injection of human grade gear of any oil based nature.
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THERE ARE A TON OF GREAT SOURCES FOR HG TEST.
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Thanks for the replies, guys. A lot of good info there, Arnold. It really does seem like dirty gear since EVERY damn shot hurt to high hell. Oh well. :/
Yeah, Jack, it totally sucks regardin' the bill. But what can you do ?? I'm close to goin' full-time at my job, anyways. I just hope it's within the next 90 days ! LOLOL !!!
Anyways, I know I what I MUST do now. And that's find HG gear !!!! Or find myself, as Gh15 would say, a good cook !! FUCK UG unless it get's reviews that make it sound like it's the next comin' of christ !
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it was the fact that you put 600mg of steroid into your ass cheek on your first cycle. that little bolus of liquid is your 2'cc's of gear, not an abcess. your muscle became inflamed around the area because of crystallization of the hormone into the muscle.
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it was the fact that you put 600mg of steroid into your ass cheek on your first cycle. that little bolus of liquid is your 2'cc's of gear, not an abcess. your muscle became inflamed around the area because of crystallization of the hormone into the muscle.
yea it happens sometime, big red bump and hot, it hurts too and when that happen i take my multi, vit-c overload and sleep alot, after 3-4days its gone
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stick to HG test man.you will have little bother with it.when you can get it take it. although in saying that my online source closed and now looking at getting some shitty UGL stuff localy which i hear is good but id rather HG every time ;D.
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Dude why did you go to the hopspital so quick. Take advil and let it go away on it's own! If It doesn't in a week then worry. To late now.
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it was the fact that you put 600mg of steroid into your ass cheek on your first cycle. that little bolus of liquid is your 2'cc's of gear, not an abcess. your muscle became inflamed around the area because of crystallization of the hormone into the muscle.
Sooo ... hypothetical. If I shot 600 mg. of HG instead of UG I STILL would've had the same issue ???
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Dude why did you go to the hopspital so quick. Take advil and let it go away on it's own! If It doesn't in a week then worry. To late now.
Dude, I took a SHITLOAD of Ibuprofen and still felt like shit. On top of that, I was runnin' a high ass fever followed with cold chills and tremendous pain. I HAD to go to the hospital, man. I couldn't even sit down or even lie down comfortably due to the inflammation.
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it was the fact that you put 600mg of steroid into your ass cheek on your first cycle. that little bolus of liquid is your 2'cc's of gear, not an abcess. your muscle became inflamed around the area because of crystallization of the hormone into the muscle.
Damn, that sounds pretty sensible. I don't know enough to say whether it could be true, lol, but it's good diagnostic thinking as far as the mechanics go.
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Yeah, Jack, it totally sucks regardin' the bill. But what can you do ?? I'm close to goin' full-time at my job, anyways. I just hope it's within the next 90 days ! LOLOL !!!
I know you were in pain and needed immediate relief, but it may have been worth it to find a so-called "free clinic". These are places that will ask you to sign a form stating that you're uninsured, and will treat an uninsured person without charge. When it comes to lower level emergency care like infections, etc., they're the best bet.
Anyways, I know I what I MUST do now. And that's find HG gear !!!! Or find myself, as Gh15 would say, a good cook !! FUCK UG unless it get's reviews that make it sound like it's the next comin' of christ !
That's a good idea. But you'll be having to fend against counterfeit shit like never before. You will be going crazy trying to verify whether you got legitimate product. lol
No one said it would be easy, I guess.
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it was the fact that you put 600mg of steroid into your ass cheek on your first cycle. that little bolus of liquid is your 2'cc's of gear, not an abcess. your muscle became inflamed around the area because of crystallization of the hormone into the muscle.
x2 happened to me. Hurts bad for a few days.
Shoot the quads.
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Dude, I took a SHITLOAD of Ibuprofen and still felt like shit. On top of that, I was runnin' a high ass fever followed with cold chills and tremendous pain. I HAD to go to the hospital, man. I couldn't even sit down or even lie down comfortably due to the inflammation.
I can understand that. I've had real painful gear before. I had test prop amps once. They were 2 mil an amp 200mgs. I would shoot one of those and be crippeled for days and feel like shit. Advil would help take the edge off. I threw that shit away. There's some good ug labs out there you just have to do a little research.
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you go to them again ,, and tell them to use the ultra sound room and not give you balonie and you dont have time for amaturs,, tell them to keep their anastisia to their own wives since americanos dont know hwo to do it right may get you blind who knows... they usualy do it ok but you nwever know with americanos..they go by book they will get you dead if it was up to a book to do so ,, in any case...this is what you do ..
dont argue!
you go inside,,
you say i want ultra sound poking with needle by the radiowhatever you call it down there usualy in the basment floor of hospital,, he is pro ,, he put a 10 cc 2 even and poke it ,, he can see into your ass with his ultra sound machine like woman prego ,, he will use a needle do local anastisia and fill up some good ole bbq souce in a 10 cc synrge,, then he will either keep on draining by a little wafer he will attach to your ass for few days ....or do nothing if it is small abcess just wrap it and will look at it in 10 days,,
do NOT let them open you inside out! ,, they are amatuers in amaericana they hav eno clue about nothing,,
now you heard me its in your court,, what you have is simple abcess if its even abcess ,, i dont even think its an abcess but if it is ,, it can be solved in the ulta sound room ,, what you will get out of you is bbq souce yeloish redish brownish ,, its not blood its isolated area the body is fighting,, dont do it alone ..let them do it ,, ofcourse the bill will be 10 k ,,,,but! surgery will be 25 k ,,in either way dont pay ,,they dont deserve money they control everything in their people lives and you helped build that place with your taxes,,the goverment need to worry you ! get health insurance for minimal $$ this is how it is in normal places,,
whatever you do do not agree for surgery you will regret it! ,, also it wil be nice if they give you some percoset or ceflex those slow retards,, ask for it,,
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x2 happened to me. Hurts bad for a few days.
Shoot the quads.
you NEVER shoot the quad! never ,, muscle is too dense and you will end up in trouble,, only ass! only delts with thinner oils ,, mostly ass,, it will go in and it wil be ok ,, ass can take on infections with no problems you dont even feel it half the time
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* I'll try and sum this up quickly *
Started my first cycle roughly two months ago ( Test E / D-Bol ). First vial of Test dosed at 250 mg was painless every shot. Sometimes I'd even wonder the next day if I even shot myself. Lol. Btw, I was shootin' 1cc e5d.
Now onto the second vial dosed at 300 mg. EVERY shot gave me some significant pain for 3-4 days, however, after the 3-4 days, I was back to normal ... except for this last time. Did 2cc's this last Friday ( 600 mg's ) and felt fine. Woke up Sat. with my left ass cheek inflammed to high hell. Was hard as a rock and very hot as well as very painful to touch. Not only that, but I was runnin' a fever from hell. Sooo ... I apply cold compresses Sat. and attempt to sleep it off. Sunday comes, the " hard painful cheek " is still there and the fever is slowly dissapaitin'. Monday comes and the fever is gone. The swelling goes down, too, due to the heat pad I had used Sunday night. Hopefully, you guys are still followe here ??
So after ALL this BULLSHIT, I go to the hospital. With NO INSURANCE, mind you. :( :( This was yesterday, btw. Hospital draws blood from me, gives me a Cat Scan, draws some more blood, gives me some anti-biotics, etc. etc. Doc comes in and says, " We're not sure what it is. CS shows a small ball of fluid inside the inflammed area that may or may not be an abscess. So, we are going to give you some medicine, have you back in 24 hrs., and decide what to do next. We may have to put you on the cutting table. "
THIS FUCKIN' SUCKS ! My FIRST cycle, too. I've followed ALL injection protocols to the T. I don't understand how this could've happened, bro's. Which is why I'm here. The thing that sucks the most is I had went from 248 to 270 in that time and it was VERY noticeable. Now I'm just depressed and afraid to inject again. Could really use some help here. Thoughts, opinions, etc.
Btw, told Doc, when he asked, that I injected B12. After that I received a lecture from BOTH the Doc and RN about injections. Told me I got get a staph infec. from one and die instantly. So, yeah ... I'm thoroughly fuckin' depressed. I inject myself the SAME way EVERY time. Never had an issues. *
I remember the first time I touched a needle, I was clumsy nerdy kid, and I was too busy cleaning my damn injection sight with alchohol trying to get every damn speck of it,so I wouldnt get an "abcess" ::) lol.. and wooosh the whole 22g went right through my finger. the entire 22g all the way down to the bone. LOL . Really no advice bro other than to suck it up and go with another brand. Normally I would tell you stick with human grade or go home, which is the best advice i can give, but people highly underestimate the amount of fake gear on the market. Sone guys have said 80%, I personally feel it's around 90-95%. Lets say you actually are getting legit human grade products 70% of the time.which is pretty good... 7 out 10 times that is still 3 cycles down the drain. Something we cant afford to risk EVER!!! My supplier I consider as much of a vet to the human grade scene as anyone , and he wont even bother with human grade test-e anymore he told me straight up. Btw the majority of counterfeit human grade testosterone on the market does contain testosterone..so very rarely will you get amps with no active ingredient which is why guys running fake amps are still gaining in some cases. Of course sometimes you just havfe straight oil though..
Here is some advice that may not like yo hear but I think it will help you.
1)..get a scrypt for test which ANYONE ANY AGE can do. You just have to be williing to look hard enough and you WILL (not may) get a scypt. The key is to get your levels super low. Anadrol is awesome for this. Also boozing and not sleeping and eating a low fat diet for a few weeks will help. It may take alot of convincing and you may need to bring your gf or wife into the doctors office with you( or your sister if you are a hillbilly like GRoink) :D Make her put on a slutty outfit or something and flirt with your doc and complain about how your previous steroid abuse leaves your dick soft and how your pathetic ass cant satisfy her. I dont care what it takes iron disciple you do what you have to do! So now you solved your problem with testosterone and never worry about being shut down. Now listen to Disgusted and choose one compound from a reputable ugl (not test). Try it.. If its legit, buy a fuckload of it. Dont think for a minute that every one of us on this board would not be running 5 different human grade compounds if we could, because oh we would :D I would love to be running some zambons, a couple of norma deca, a couple of norma testo, you bet your ass I would. But its a luxaary that we just dont have as of 2011 this is not the 90's. NOT SAYING ITS IMPOSSIBLE..before one of you fools post up pics of your legit "testex" but it is very risky. Honestly, Im still not so hot on using ugl gear as in the past I would of never considered it.. but you do what you gotta do man.
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That sucks. That's not how a first cycle should be. Try to look at it positively, it could have been worse. :-\
I've been lucky that I haven't had an abscess so far. And I only know one guy who did; he said he shot some IP gear into his arm. Now he has a nasty scar there... they sliced it up and kept packing it with gauze until it healed.
A couple of months ago my delt swelled up and felt hard as a rock.
I was a bit freaked but since the delt wasn't hot or red I tried to calm myself down, to wait and see. It went away in a few days, luckily. Yes it was UG gear... I figured it wasn't infection due to bacteria so I used up the rest of the bottle without problems, though I put less of it in one place. Cut it with HG test too.
gh15 knows a lot about abscesses, maybe he could chime in. I know he thinks some docs like to slice up people unnesessarily.
he shoud pm me ,,i dont read this boaridng much but! i wrote it in bible about 305 times in the past ,, i had few postings dedicated to this,, if you go and let them open your leg or ass inside out you are A SUCCER OF THE MOST FUCKED UP KIND!,, they want yhour money not your health ,, they want more money ,, economy collapse they prefer to catch right ear with left hand...insted of the right hand....god i dispize the system in americana,, doctors are no doctors,, the only thing that make them advance is the money that USED TO BE INVESTED in everything,, its nto the quality of the doctors,, its catastrophic ,,
dont let them fool you ,, what you have is NOTHING,, I DOTN EVEN BELIVEE ITS AN ABCESS,, abcess usualy come from mixing water product with oil products and for good month,,most ug now are sterile enough and ass clear everything with no problem,, some fellas use the same needles they used before for 100 times into ass,, and im not joking,, they clean it with alcohol but use same damn needle lol ,, ofcourse i recomend new needle because penetration will be easier and smooth ....but some are that lazy lol
dont let them open you up ,, make noise! female is even better to make noise,, make yoru girl make nose
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btw Im not saying that ugl gear is bad. There are some damn good cooks around.. Jews have small bodies and the body is not as resiliant to the contaiminants which is why I always went human grade in the past.
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I remember the first time I touched a needle, I was clumsy nerdy kid, and I was too busy cleaning my damn injection sight with alchohol trying to get every damn speck of it,so I wouldnt get an "abcess" ::) lol.. and wooosh the whole 22g went right through my finger. the entire 22g all the way down to the bone. LOL . Really no advice bro other than to suck it up and go with another brand. Normally I would tell you stick with human grade or go home, which is the best advice i can give, but people highly underestimate the amount of fake gear on the market. Sone guys have said 80%, I personally feel it's around 90-95%. Lets say you actually are getting legit human grade products 70% of the time.which is pretty good... 7 out 10 times that is still 3 cycles down the drain. Something we cant afford to risk EVER!!! My supplier I consider as much of a vet to the human grade scene as anyone , and he wont even bother with human grade test-e anymore he told me straight up. Btw the majority of counterfeit human grade testosterone on the market does contain testosterone..so very rarely will you get amps with no active ingredient which is why guys running fake amps are still gaining in some cases. Of course sometimes you just havfe straight oil though..
Here is some advice that may not like yo hear but I think it will help you.
1)..get a scrypt for test which ANYONE ANY AGE can do. You just have to be williing to look hard enough and you WILL (not may) get a scypt. The key is to get your levels super low. Anadrol is awesome for this. Also boozing and not sleeping and eating a low fat diet for a few weeks will help. It may take alot of convincing and you may need to bring your gf or wife into the doctors office with you( or your sister if you are a hillbilly like GRoink) :D Make her put on a slutty outfit or something and flirt with your doc and complain about how your previous steroid abuse leaves your dick soft and how your pathetic ass cant satisfy her. I dont care what it takes iron disciple you do what you have to do! So now you solved your problem with testosterone and never worry about being shut down. Now listen to Disgusted and choose one compound from a reputable ugl (not test). Try it.. If its legit, buy a fuckload of it. Dont think for a minute that every one of us on this board would not be running 5 different human grade compounds if we could, because oh we would :D I would love to be running some zambons, a couple of norma deca, a couple of norma testo, you bet your ass I would. But its a luxaary that we just dont have as of 2011 this is not the 90's. NOT SAYING ITS IMPOSSIBLE..before one of you fools post up pics of your legit "testex" but it is very risky. Honestly, Im still not so hot on using ugl gear as in the past I would of never considered it.. but you do what you gotta do man.
this is a good post!
read and learn,,
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you NEVER shoot the quad! never ,, muscle is too dense and you will end up in trouble,, only ass! only delts with thinner oils ,, mostly ass,, it will go in and it wil be ok ,, ass can take on infections with no problems you dont even feel it half the time
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Quads are my favoureite spot. No blood coming out, no pain, no infection, ever..
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Quads are my favoureite spot. No blood coming out, no pain, no infection, ever..
until you try to put in zambons with the masteron diff injections into the quads...then mooshy times start,, but over all i just do not recomend quad injections,,ass was meant for it if something happen with the leg you are fucked...with the ass..worst thing that can happen is you wont be able to sit or sleep on that side for a day,, a leg can lock on you big time,,trust me you never want to feel how a leg lock on you and you cant bend it ,, never wanna feel it! from 30 year old you will go to 70 year old in a matter of hours!
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you say scar tissue doesnt afffect absorbtion and hormone will still get into the blood. I know that when a diabetic takes insulin sub-q in stomach they tell them to constantly change sights on the stomach to avoid scar tissue. If not, it will eventually cause delay absorbtion of insulin. Why would this not apply to AAS in the ass cheek?
I loved it when the needle used to glide in smoothly when your a virgin lol... but Im getting mad scar tissue hitting the same spot over and over again. I think Im gonna pick me up some 25g, I dont care if I sit with that needle in me 20 minutes, its worth it.
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you say scar tissue doesnt afffect absorbtion and hormone will still get into the blood. I know that when a diabetic takes insulin sub-q in stomach they tell them to constantly change sights on the stomach to avoid scar tissue. If not, it will eventually cause delay absorbtion of insulin. Why would this not apply to AAS in the ass cheek?
I loved it when the needle used to glide in smoothly when your a virgin lol... but Im getting mad scar tissue hitting the same spot over and over again. I think Im gonna pick me up some 25g, I dont care if I sit with that needle in me 20 minutes, its worth it.
it go through scar tissue into blood ,, may delay absorbtion by few hours...over all mirror and pictures are your best judge ...you will know if its in the blood or no ,, very easy to know when hormones dont flow in blood,, also i inject reghularly tne and dianabola and anadrola with 30 gauge insulina needle into delts,,thats the only way you can do it over and over ...id go nuts if i had to do it 2 time a day into ass every single day inaddition to the rest of the injects,,30 gaugae 1/2 inch will take tne and put it right into the delt smoothly and painlessly
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until you try to put in zambons with the masteron diff injections into the quads...then mooshy times start,, but over all i just do not recomend quad injections,,ass was meant for it if something happen with the leg you are fucked...with the ass..worst thing that can happen is you wont be able to sit or sleep on that side for a day,, a leg can lock on you big time,,trust me you never want to feel how a leg lock on you and you cant bend it ,, never wanna feel it! from 30 year old you will go to 70 year old in a matter of hours!
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:o :o :o no thanks!!!!
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like gh15 said dont pay the hospital lol ya you prolly have whats called virgin muscle plus amateur injection technique. everyone i know hurts there self in some way in there first few shots its common. divid up into two shots a week. if it makes u fill safer you can put a venting needle in your test and bake it for a while that will kill any possible bacteria I think 200 degrees if i memeber right for bout 45 min
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A LOT of good info here, fellas. Thank you ALL for the replies. Have took some notes and DEFINITELY will be tryin' some new things. Of course, speakin' of new things, just shot a cc into my right cheek. Hopefully, THIS stuff is legit and painless. Time will tell. Have a good one, my brothers in iron and juice. ;D
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truely your gear is proll all right iron raider it takes practice giving injections and also 600mg is a lot for someone to take in one inject thats not use to it when i see people start they always have simlar problems like they call me and say I cant walk lol the baking it you might wanna look up the temp to be sure seems to reduce pain itself and it make sure there is not bacteria in it. I would at the very least shot only one ml up twice a week if not divid it by 3 less gear oil less pain. Ive and prolly everyone on here has had injects hurt so bad at time you cant walk damn near and ive had it last for 5 days or more and never had an absses and im a tough sob
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just like anything else if you injected 5 times and someone has didnt 1000 you get better and start learning how to avoid pain lol
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it go through scar tissue into blood ,, may delay absorbtion by few hours...over all mirror and pictures are your best judge ...you will know if its in the blood or no ,, very easy to know when hormones dont flow in blood,, also i inject reghularly tne and dianabola and anadrola with 30 gauge insulina needle into delts,,thats the only way you can do it over and over ...id go nuts if i had to do it 2 time a day into ass every single day inaddition to the rest of the injects,,30 gaugae 1/2 inch will take tne and put it right into the delt smoothly and painlessly
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1/2" is deep enough in the delt for AAS? and how do you draw TNE with a 30guage pin? I just ordered 6 bottles of TNE for bible index after the competition :D
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Guys I'm not trying to be a jackass but this thread has more retarded comments than I've ever seen.
First off, injections are not hard...it's not like you become a professional injector, an idiot on the short bus can inject as good as anyone. And all the "heat the gear" don't put a certain amount of mg's and cc's in one injection....etc, etc....it's all retarded nonsense. All this stuff has floated around message boards for years but this thread has managed to become the one size fits all for the retarded myths.
What I find really funny is how so many of you on here (the getbig steroid section) have bought into this "don't think" mentality in a lot of ways about gear but when it comes to the actual injection itself you're making it out to be nuclear science.
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I shoot 1 inches in the delts always
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Guys I'm not trying to be a jackass but this thread has more retarded comments than I've ever seen.
First off, injections are not hard...it's not like you become a professional injector, an idiot on the short bus can inject as good as anyone. And all the "heat the gear" don't put a certain amount of mg's and cc's in one injection....etc, etc....it's all retarded nonsense. All this stuff has floated around message boards for years but this thread has managed to become the one size fits all for the retarded myths.
What I find really funny is how so many of you on here (the getbig steroid section) have bought into this "don't think" mentality in a lot of ways about gear but when it comes to the actual injection itself you're making it out to be nuclear science.
try shooting 3 cc of test 300 in each tris like good old Stavios, and when your triceps looks like a baloon come back on this thread ;D
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ya i dont see how thats a myth if you shoot more painful gear then less its going to hurt more. and heating gear can help i know that for a fact to a long time ago i made some prop it hurt very bad after heating it was a lot better. This is not stuff i have read u shoot 300mg of prop it hurt worse then 150 i know that for a fact and I also know people that just start injecting themselves tend to run into this problem a lot because I have them call me and tell me I can walk and so forth. I have no doubt you know more about this stuff then I prolly ever will but some of them things are in no way really myths. also its common knowledge the first few shots tend to hurt more for what ever reason im not really going to hypothise why but it does. I just am trying to offer anything that can help someone out all this stuff i have tried myself and its very common for people on there first cycle to have similar problems. Injecting inst rocket science but you do tend to become accostomed to what hurts and doesnt.
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Had pip from my first few shots of test e (into quads) then started adding a cc of mast every shot and zero grief since.
Don't know how people can see what the hell they are doing, shooting into their butts ???
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I'm not saying there aren't rules to follow but there's IMO simple obvious truths that are just that...obvious.
I've injected 3cc's into my pecs, delts and glutes many times and never had a problem. I've injected 1cc into my glute or delts before and gotten some of the biggest most painful sores you've ever seen. The difference...when I got painful sores or massive lumps it was crappy gear, if it was something legit like true Testoviron or something like that I've never had a problem and don't know anyone who has.
Again, yes, there are rules; I tend to agree with GH15 with what he said about Winny, I remember injecting 1cc of Zambon into my left quad and not being able to walk right for several days with a nasty swollen bruised leg to boot. I also am not a fan of bicep injections in general as they are too sensitive for a lot of guys, yet some guys tolerate it very well.
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well said arnold :) I know you prolly get this a lot but are you the actual arnold :P
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1/2" is deep enough in the delt for AAS? and how do you draw TNE with a 30guage pin? I just ordered 6 bottles of TNE for bible index after the competition :D
yes,, if you are low bodyfat 6-8 even if more in delts is no problem it go to the muscle if you are lean enough under 10% very easy to hit muscle in delts,, if you cant hit it with half inch then you are good 18% or over
and yes 29-30gauge,, but many of you get fake bunk products,, real tne is made with guiacaol,,it will not hold other way,, gbuiacol and the oil mix are very thin very water like,, and easily sucked with 30 inch gauge,,we pro use it as secret for many many years going on 20 years now
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Guys I'm not trying to be a jackass but this thread has more retarded comments than I've ever seen.
First off, injections are not hard...it's not like you become a professional injector, an idiot on the short bus can inject as good as anyone. And all the "heat the gear" don't put a certain amount of mg's and cc's in one injection....etc, etc....it's all retarded nonsense. All this stuff has floated around message boards for years but this thread has managed to become the one size fits all for the retarded myths.
What I find really funny is how so many of you on here (the getbig steroid section) have bought into this "don't think" mentality in a lot of ways about gear but when it comes to the actual injection itself you're making it out to be nuclear science.
both me ,, kevin ,, dorian ,, and INNOCENT CHIWAWI,, all of us put in one injects over 1000mg of hormone into muscle ,,many times over and over and over
1 0 0 0 mg in one fucking inject! no pain what so ever and this was back then!! nwo day its absolitly no pain ,,we di then what the best do now this is just how bodybuild works and im telling you this hear for the last 6 + years
gh15 approved
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I shoot 1 inches in the delts always
why? this is too big needle unless you inject very thick human grade oil,, 1 inch way too big for delt injects if you are lean ,,not good,,then again if you inject other stuff than equipona and tne dianabola etc...then you may need bigger neelde and then 1 inch come to play,,
easy injections to selts...
harder injections to ass,,
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Had pip from my first few shots of test e (into quads) then started adding a cc of mast every shot and zero grief since.
Don't know how people can see what the hell they are doing, shooting into their butts ???
if you can lay on bed half way titles and see your ass right or left side of it CLEARLY AND COMFORTABLY ...then you are too fat,, and this is problelm with many wanna be bodybuild....they walking 240lb go on stage 190 lb lol in other words at 240 250 they look like balonie sausage ,,big gut big muscle but ofcourse the musscles are nto truly big...it all shrink moment they try get in compeititon condition ...those fellas cans see ass well...
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why? this is too big needle unless you inject very thick human grade oil,, 1 inch way too big for delt injects if you are lean ,,not good,,then again if you inject other stuff than equipona and tne dianabola etc...then you may need bigger neelde and then 1 inch come to play,,
easy injections to selts...
harder injections to ass,,
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I tought it would look less lumpy if I injected deeper in the muscle
I use 1 inches 25g for the biceps also, all the way in
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WHY DO YOU BUY IN PERSON AND WHY IS IT CONSIDERED SAFER?
ONLINE U CAN BUY..IF UR CAUGHT, U LIE AND SAY MISTAKE.
IF U BUY IN PERSON, U CANT LIE...UR DEALER PHYSICALLY KNOWS U.
PLUS IT MAY CHEAPER.
it's not cheaper if IT DOESN'T EVEN COME.
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How in god's name can the pro's shoot themselves multiple times a day then ??? Do they just mix all the compounds in a big syringe and shoot into 1-2 bodyparts ?? Wouldn't they run out of places to inject after a couple of days ?? I'm confused here. I shoot 2cc's of Test into my ass after having shot 1cc into my ass for close to 8-9 weeks and get fucked. Yet, a lot of other users and shoot 3cc's ( if not more ) into other bodyparts and walk out unscathed. * sigh * I think I'm going to kill my friend and his " chemist ". Yup, I'm really liking the idea right now .......
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it was the fact that you put 600mg of steroid into your ass cheek on your first cycle. that little bolus of liquid is your 2'cc's of gear, not an abcess. your muscle became inflamed around the area because of crystallization of the hormone into the muscle.
i did that on my first cycle no problem.
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How in god's name can the pro's shoot themselves multiple times a day then ??? Do they just mix all the compounds in a big syringe and shoot into 1-2 bodyparts ?? Wouldn't they run out of places to inject after a couple of days ?? I'm confused here. I shoot 2cc's of Test into my ass after having shot 1cc into my ass for close to 8-9 weeks and get fucked. Yet, a lot of other users and shoot 3cc's ( if not more ) into other bodyparts and walk out unscathed. * sigh * I think I'm going to kill my friend and his " chemist ". Yup, I'm really liking the idea right now .......
in william llewellyn's book he says no more than 3ml per injection intramuscular. subcutaneous: no more than 1ml per injection. i assure you it's not how much, but what.
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I remember getting a knot in my ass the size of a baseball bat in my ass when I tried to put 4 ccs of prop in my glute. Lesson learned...
The next time I tried to do 7 cc's in my leg and lesson learned for sure. Leg sure enough locked on me. How in the world are you guys pinning through 29 gauge. I have to hold the needle down forever to get a cc out and by the time i'm like fuck it get a 25 gauge.
Does heating the oil mess up the quality like running under hot water? I did that the other night and it went through the 29 gauge much easier.
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both me ,, kevin ,, dorian ,, and INNOCENT CHIWAWI,, all of us put in one injects over 1000mg of hormone into muscle ,,many times over and over and over
1 0 0 0 mg in one fucking inject! no pain what so ever and this was back then!! nwo day its absolitly no pain ,,we di then what the best do now this is just how bodybuild works and im telling you this hear for the last 6 + years
gh15 approved
We seem to be agreeing on more things lately....does that mean the world is coming to an end, lol!?!
I've never shot 1,000mg in one single shot before but 700mg in one shot used to be pretty common place for me and I never had a problem, not once.
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Damn, that sounds pretty sensible. I don't know enough to say whether it could be true, lol, but it's good diagnostic thinking as far as the mechanics go.
it is what happened, 99% sure of it.
Guys I'm not trying to be a jackass but this thread has more retarded comments than I've ever seen.
First off, injections are not hard...it's not like you become a professional injector, an idiot on the short bus can inject as good as anyone. And all the "heat the gear" don't put a certain amount of mg's and cc's in one injection....etc, etc....it's all retarded nonsense. All this stuff has floated around message boards for years but this thread has managed to become the one size fits all for the retarded myths.
What I find really funny is how so many of you on here (the getbig steroid section) have bought into this "don't think" mentality in a lot of ways about gear but when it comes to the actual injection itself you're making it out to be nuclear science.
this is obviously directed towards me. i wont get into a personal attack on what advices you give out. i will only say that what i said in this thread is accurate.
i did that on my first cycle no problem.
some guys get away with things other guys cant.
How in god's name can the pro's shoot themselves multiple times a day then ??? Do they just mix all the compounds in a big syringe and shoot into 1-2 bodyparts ?? Wouldn't they run out of places to inject after a couple of days ?? I'm confused here. I shoot 2cc's of Test into my ass after having shot 1cc into my ass for close to 8-9 weeks and get fucked. Yet, a lot of other users and shoot 3cc's ( if not more ) into other bodyparts and walk out unscathed. * sigh * I think I'm going to kill my friend and his " chemist ". Yup, I'm really liking the idea right now .......
you asked earlier if you would have gotten the swelling even if it was human grade. yes i think so. your fresh, yoru body is not use to metabolising hormone,s your muscles arent used to having large concentrations deposited into them. a big quantity of hormone will very easily irritate the muscle, especially if its allowed to crystallize at the injection site. 600mg in one shot for a first timer is asking for some swelling and soreness. over time your body gets better at metabolising the hormone and your muscle becomes desensitized as well. then you can shoot multiple times per day, large quantities, like some pros, and have no problem.
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No, it honestly wasn't directed towards you but the thread in general. I know you and I disagree on a lot...a whole lot is seems as of late but I've never been one of those that attacks people on here....there's no point. Arguing points however, that's a different thing.
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Thank you, TBombz. That was the answer I was lookin' for. :) :)
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The HRT drug Nebido is a 4ml/1000mg shot of test undecanoate. It's all done in one site, though the instruction leaflet says to inject very slowly. If it caused problems even in a small % of users it wouldn't be viable product.
NebidoŽ is injected every 10 to 14 weeks and must be administered very slowly. Care should be taken to inject Nebido deeply into the gluteal muscle following the usual precautions for intramuscular administration. Special care must be given to avoid intravasal injection.
I think Iron's product was simply bad. It could be that it crystallized like tbombz said, it could be dirty, it could have too many solvents/wrong solvents or whatever.
A couple of days ago I put 2 Galenika and 2 Cido in my ass with zero pain or swelling. I've done some UG gear where even 1ml caused swelling and pain, and I'm pretty sure it was the solvents... the product label even said 2% BA... HG gear in Europe at least can't contain more than .9%BA and there must be a reason.
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The HRT drug Nebido is a 4ml/1000mg shot of test undecanoate. It's all done in one site, though the instruction leaflet says to inject very slowly. If it caused problems even in a small % of users it wouldn't be viable product.
I think Iron's product was simply bad. It could be that it crystallized like tbombz said, it could be dirty, it could have too many solvents/wrong solvents or whatever.
A couple of days ago I put 2 Galenika and 2 Cido in my ass with zero pain or swelling. I've done some UG gear where even 1ml caused swelling and pain, and I'm pretty sure it was the solvents... the product label even said 2% BA... HG gear in Europe at least can't contain more than .9%BA and there must be a reason.
Good post as usual, my friend. .9 % BA sounds like my cup of tea ! LOL !!
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What about the oil that stays in the syringe after you inject?
Ive always wondered if its sane to use the same syringe again to draw the next time and shoot. ;D :-X
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speaking of this thread..i just injected 1 cc of testosterona prop / tren ace/ equipona. and pulled it back ..just air. Then i inject slowww and take it out slow after like 10 seconds, and blood starts running down my arm and theres a little ball where it clotted. not big but still im buggin the fuck out. i rubbed alcohol on it and put a antibiotic band aid on it . IF it swells anymore would that be an abcess ? , and also what the fuck would i do about it.
Drained at a hospital? Appreciate any and all serious replys this is the second time itt happened last time same shoulder bruised and went away after like a week. But if anything occurs what should i do about it? Thanks. edit: just thought about it...should have split a whole cc into 2 shots lol looking back.
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speaking of this thread..i just injected 1 cc of testosterona prop / tren ace/ equipona. and pulled it back ..just air. Then i inject slowww and take it out slow after like 10 seconds, and blood starts running down my arm and theres a little ball where it clotted. not big but still im buggin the fuck out. i rubbed alcohol on it and put a antibiotic band aid on it . IF it swells anymore would that be an abcess ? , and also what the fuck would i do about it.
Drained at a hospital? Appreciate any and all serious replys this is the second time itt happened last time same shoulder bruised and went away after like a week. But if anything occurs what should i do about it? Thanks. edit: just thought about it...should have split a whole cc into 2 shots lol looking back.
What happened, bro?
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What happened, bro?
went away in a couple days /bruise.