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Title: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Wiggs on August 21, 2011, 12:36:35 PM
This is a huge problem in the U.S. The problem is everyone is doing it. White, black, hispanic, Asian, Jew. Old, middle age, young. It doesnt matter. Docs hand them out like candy,, and they are worth alot on the street. Vicodin, percocet, roxis, and of course oxys.. Ive had a problem with these little fuckers in the past, really fucked my life up. What do you guys that have had problems in the past do to stay off? Suboxcone? Counseling? Ive said im done with this shit before and the next thing i know, im popping on a weekend and then every day. I understand i can no longer do that as i am an addict. Im clean now but not for long.  Dont ever touch these pills. Theyll fuck your life up...ive seen alot shit here in vegas that i wont post herw but let me tell you its fucking crazy out there man especially, with high unemployment....WOW.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Doug_Steele on August 21, 2011, 12:40:48 PM
This is a huge problem in the U.S. The problem is everyone is doing it. White, black, hispanic, Asian, Jew. Old, middle age, young. It doesnt matter. Docs hand them out like candy,, and they are worth alot on the street. Vicodin, percocet, roxis, and of course oxys.. Ive had a problem with these little fuckers in the past, really fucked my life up. What do you guys that have had problems in the past do to stay off? Suboxcone? Counseling? Ive said im done with this shit before and the next thing i know, im popping on a weekend and then every day. I understand i can no longer do that as i am an addict. Im clean now but not for long.  Dont ever touch these pills. Theyll fuck your life up...ive seen alot shit here in vegas that i wont post herw but let me tell you its fucking crazy out there man especially, with high unemployment....WOW.

I get the same offer from people every month for my perc's.  :-\ $500 for a bottle.  :-\ But they complain about not being able to pay their bills.  ::)
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: gym**rat on August 21, 2011, 12:41:31 PM
I have been on them for 28 years. In all those years I have never had to get a refill before it was due. I have been able to not abuse them. I would rather that one of the 5 major back surgeries would have worked so I could get off of them. I have no doubt I would have to go into treatment when that time comes. Only natural after taking them for so long.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: claymore on August 21, 2011, 12:43:28 PM
People who use pain pills = LOSERS
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: io856 on August 21, 2011, 12:43:33 PM
Is it really addictive from first dose?

How does it make you feel?
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 21, 2011, 12:45:34 PM
I can't even get 1 or 2 pills of codeine when my head feels like it's exploding due to tooth ache.
Never got any narcotics after surgeries like hernia surgery or pec tear repair either.

In the US it seems like they are prescribed when they wouldn't really be needed but here you (or I) can't get get it when they would really offer needed relief.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Wiggs on August 21, 2011, 12:46:59 PM
I get the same offer from people every month for my perc's.  :-\ $500 for a bottle.  :-\ But they complain about not being able to pay their bills.  ::)
  A " friend" i know used to trade the to strippers and hookers for "dates". And make a nice living selling to celebrties and white house wives, school teachers and everyone else you wouldnt suspect....crazy world man...you werent there man....you werent there....lol
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Wiggs on August 21, 2011, 12:47:45 PM
People who use pain pills = LOSERS
  Thanks for your input....lol
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: gym**rat on August 21, 2011, 12:48:31 PM
People who use pain pills = LOSERS

Live one day in my shoes dipshit. See if you can put up with the pain. claymore = LOSER
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Wiggs on August 21, 2011, 12:49:16 PM
Is it really addictive from first dose?

How does it make you feel?
  your problems go away and you are euphoric as fuck...and no crash unless you are an addict. It waz fucking awesome but you have to pay the piper.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: SS on August 21, 2011, 12:51:40 PM
Sounds like someone needs to re-up.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Wiggs on August 21, 2011, 12:52:46 PM
Ive noticed this is topic avoided on this boarding...Obviously there are others on this board that have problens and i thought i'd bring to light. Slingermann, myself, JNN, Unsung (pip) have had problems with this shit in the past.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 21, 2011, 12:53:35 PM
This is a huge problem in the U.S. The problem is everyone is doing it. White, black, hispanic, Asian, Jew. Old, middle age, young. It doesnt matter. Docs hand them out like candy,, and they are worth alot on the street. Vicodin, percocet, roxis, and of course oxys.. Ive had a problem with these little fuckers in the past, really fucked my life up. What do you guys that have had problems in the past do to stay off? Suboxcone? Counseling? Ive said im done with this shit before and the next thing i know, im popping on a weekend and then every day. I understand i can no longer do that as i am an addict. Im clean now but not for long.  Dont ever touch these pills. Theyll fuck your life up...ive seen alot shit here in vegas that i wont post herw but let me tell you its fucking crazy out there man especially, with high unemployment....WOW.

I have two family members that did them all the time, caused many problems (broken leg, falling down steps, fighting, jail, etc...)

They both stopped cold turkey.  Haven't touched them in a few years.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Wiggs on August 21, 2011, 12:54:08 PM
Sounds like someone needs to re-up.
  Naw bro...im done...time to clean up party is over...good run though, cause didnt give a fuck honey badger style
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Wiggs on August 21, 2011, 12:55:05 PM
I have a two family members that did them all the time, caused many problems (broken leg, falling down steps, etc...)

They both stopped cold turkey.  Haven't touched them in a few years.
  8)
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: SS on August 21, 2011, 12:58:58 PM
  Naw bro...im done...time to clean up party is over...good run though, cause didnt give a fuck honey badger style
Been there bro...It's gets easier as time goes by but the cravings will always be there.....Good luck 8)
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: io856 on August 21, 2011, 01:30:16 PM
What are the worst things about having a pain med addiction?

Can you have sex on them?

Do you feel more pain when off them?
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Wiggs on August 21, 2011, 01:47:54 PM
What are the worst things about having a pain med addiction?

Can you have sex on them?

Do you feel more pain when off them?
  its much more difficult to orgasm on them and the orgasm doesnt feel as good as it would have off them.  Once your addicted, you are no longer seeking the euphoria, you are taking them to be normal. If you run out about 24 - 48 hours after last dose, diarriah, headaches, profuse sweating, restless legs, anxiety, depression, vomitting, muscle cramping....bad shit man.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on August 21, 2011, 01:58:13 PM
Ive dealt with substance abuse in my life too. In fact, I still do ; fortunately, to a much smaller degree than in the past. 

Everyone is different, had a friend who was a quart a day (hard stuff) drinker. HE got clean via AA only. I cant stand listening to all those fucking stories. so, tihs was not the place for me.

There are medications out there. Subutex, naltrexone, etc. Dont be afraid to get on medication. Alot of AA people think thats replacing one drug for another, I call bullshit. If it helps, do it.

1. NEVER quit trying to quit
2. Life is much better when youre not jonesing or hung over all the time.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Rami on August 21, 2011, 02:01:33 PM
Not only Pain pills, it's the same with Ritalin and Adderall.

The drug companies are not stupid, these are highly addictive compounds and creates physiological dependency. They will get the user hooked very fast at regular prescription doses. Same as any drug, these companies have simply figured out how to sell drugs within the law.

Give the doctors under the table provision for handing out free samples and easy prescriptions. With the help of big pharma, come up with diseases that doesn't even exist for which you are prescribed their drugs, especially with children that can't decide on their own and get hooked for life.

Drug companies are rapidly becoming the biggest and most successful business idea world wide.



Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Wiggs on August 21, 2011, 02:05:45 PM
Not only Pain pills, it's the same with Ritalin and Adderall.

The drug companies are not stupid, these are highly addictive compounds and creates physiological dependency. They will get the user hooked very fast at regular prescription doses. Same as any drug, these companies have simply figured out how to sell drugs within the law.

Give the doctors under the table provision for handing out free samples and easy prescriptions. With the help of big pharma, come up with diseases that doesn't even exist for which you are prescribed their drugs, especially with children that can't decide on their own and get hooked for life.

Drug companies are rapidly becoming the biggest and most successful business idea world wide.

oh yeah, these fucks know exactly what they are doing.


Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: makaveli25 on August 21, 2011, 02:06:22 PM
Been battling addiction for the last 10 years. I went the suboxone route. I go once a month to the doc take a tiny tiny amount of suboxone everyday 2 mg. Your tolerance doesn't grow on suboxone and it has kept me from abusing more serious things like roxies, oxies, perc etc. If you really think your addiction is going to be a problem talk to a sub doctor.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Wiggs on August 21, 2011, 02:12:31 PM
Been battling addiction for the last 10 years. I went the suboxone route. I go once a month to the doc take a tiny tiny amount of suboxone everyday 2 mg. Your tolerance doesn't grow on suboxone and it has kept me from abusing more serious things like roxies, oxies, perc etc. If you really think your addiction is going to be a problem talk to a sub doctor.
is the suboxone worth it? What are the sides? How does it make you feel?
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: BIG_STI on August 21, 2011, 02:15:43 PM
Another negro hooked on drugs
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: polychronopolous on August 21, 2011, 02:17:24 PM
Find a young woman whose Dad, Mom or sibling has been in a really bad car accident and has a lifetime refill to some really bad ass painkillers and you are basically set for life.


Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: makaveli25 on August 21, 2011, 02:18:37 PM
is the suboxone worth it? What are the sides? How does it make you feel?

Great thing about suboxone is it only takes a week to stabilize on a high dose once there you can cut it down to 2mg everday. I do 1mg insulfiated twice a day. I enjoy the way I feel. The doctors will keep prescribing really high doses so you can set yourself up with a bit of stock pile in case shit went bad you wouldn't be cut off your meds right away. Side effects are dry mouth, constipation, less enjoyable orgasm same with regular opiates. They can all be managed though. I live a very normal life I use to get up everymorning and have to hustle to get pills for the day. I went like this for 2 years couldn't take it anymore! Suboxone saved my life. It will be a bitch to get off I know that but once I decide to get off I will go to a rehab for a week or two so I can have a nurse there to help me.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Wiggs on August 21, 2011, 02:21:29 PM
Great thing about suboxone is it only takes a week to stabilize on a high dose once there you can cut it down to 2mg everday. I do 1mg insulfiated twice a day. I enjoy the way I feel. The doctors will keep prescribing really high doses so you can set yourself up with a bit of stock pile in case shit went bad you wouldn't be cut off your meds right away. Side effects are dry mouth, constipation, less enjoyable orgasm same with regular opiates. They can all be managed though. I live a very normal life I use to get up everymorning and have to hustle to get pills for the day. I went like this for 2 years couldn't take it anymore! Suboxone saved my life. It will be a bitch to get off I know that but once I decide to get off I will go to a rehab for a week or two so I can have a nurse there to help me.
Thanks for the advice and good luck bro.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: polychronopolous on August 21, 2011, 02:22:43 PM
Good luck guys.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: dyslexic on August 21, 2011, 03:32:23 PM
Cold Turkey.

Tough it out and believe in yourself. The worst part will be over after 2 weeks.

The cravings may never stop, dependent on your *nature*



Getting hooked on another drug to get off a drug is NOT a good idea. Suboxone is addictive, Methadone, even MORE so.


I've had some serious back injuries. Take it from me.


COLD TURKEY and don't look back. Ever.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Doug_Steele on August 21, 2011, 03:42:04 PM
  A " friend" i know used to trade the to strippers and hookers for "dates". And make a nice living selling to celebrties and white house wives, school teachers and everyone else you wouldnt suspect....crazy world man...you werent there man....you werent there....lol

And here is the deal: I know some people that live in section 8 housing and would pay $8 a pill which is good, i guess. I have friends that make alot of fuckin $$$$ and these are mostly white people who are married, have children, good jobs,..etc. and would pay $15 a pill.  :-\ So, people who think that the black's, Mexican's, white trash would pay more, nope. It is the white upper class that will pay/do anything for just one perc.  :-\ 
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 21, 2011, 03:45:53 PM
And here is the deal: I know some people that live in section 8 housing and would pay $8 a pill which is good, i guess. I have friends that make alot of fuckin $$$$ and these are mostly white people who are married, have children, good jobs,..etc. and would pay $15 a pill.  :-\ So, people who think that the black's, Mexican's, white trash would pay more, nope. It is the white upper class that will pay/do anything for just one perc.  :-\ 
X2.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: makaveli25 on August 21, 2011, 03:54:10 PM
Cold Turkey.

Tough it out and believe in yourself. The worst part will be over after 2 weeks.

The cravings may never stop, dependent on your *nature*



Getting hooked on another drug to get off a drug is NOT a good idea. Suboxone is addictive, Methadone, even MORE so.


I've had some serious back injuries. Take it from me.


COLD TURKEY and don't look back. Ever.

You are right bro. I'm actually saving up my paid time off so I can go cold turkey. No way I can go to work and go through that at the same time. Suboxone is just switching addictions. Some people are better off on it though.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: makaveli25 on August 21, 2011, 03:55:53 PM
X2.

Yup I remember towards the end of the regular Oxycontin era white people would pay over a dollar a milligram. That's why many turn to heroin.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Wiggs on August 21, 2011, 03:58:01 PM
Yup I remeber twords the end of the regular oxycotin era white people would pay over a dollar a milligram. That's why many turn to heroin.
    you people pay very good money...this is why my friend would only deal with white people, middle class and above.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: makaveli25 on August 21, 2011, 04:01:03 PM
    you people pay very good money...this is why my friend would only deal with white people, middle class and above.

We use to get shit from the hillbillies. White trash on "disability" I can't believe some of the scum I would associate myself just to get high. I will admit it was really fun until things spiraled out of control. My pops caught on to what I was doing and almost kicked my ass.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: 99 Bananas on August 21, 2011, 04:03:43 PM


Ram Dass can tell you why you keep going back to them.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Wiggs on August 21, 2011, 04:06:29 PM
We use to get shit from the hillbillies. White trash on "disability" I can't believe some of the scum I would associate myself just to get high. I will admit it was really fun until things spiraled out of control. My pops caught on to what I was doing and almost kicked my ass.
oh yeah bro, i weng from square to thug really quick...not cool....thankfully that last shred of humanity helped me through...drama, drama...lol
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Doug_Steele on August 21, 2011, 04:07:32 PM
    you people pay very good money...this is why my friend would only deal with white people, middle class and above.

I will never sell any of my shit, but have you ever seen 'Those people' that buy those pills and fucking sleep on a couch for three days straight? DAMN.  I mean, i know some women who are strippers and pain pills are like fucking gold to them.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Wiggs on August 21, 2011, 04:10:47 PM
I will never sell any of my shit, but have you ever seen 'Those people' that buy those pills and fucking sleep on a couch for three days straight? DAMN.  I mean, i know some women who are strippers and pain pills are like fucking gold to them.
like i said, my "friend" woulx trade them for "dates".  They came after him. It was heaven but it was evil..taking advantage of someones problem.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Doug_Steele on August 21, 2011, 04:11:50 PM
like i said, my "friend" woulx trade them for "dates".  They came after him. It was heaven but it was evil..taking advantage of someones problem.

They will trade anything for a Perc or Cholodapin.  :-\
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 21, 2011, 04:14:48 PM
They will trade anything for a Perc or Cholodapin.  :-\
Hoes for drugs a win win everytime.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: whitewidow on August 21, 2011, 07:55:43 PM
This is a huge problem in the U.S. The problem is everyone is doing it. White, black, hispanic, Asian, Jew. Old, middle age, young. It doesnt matter. Docs hand them out like candy,, and they are worth alot on the street. Vicodin, percocet, roxis, and of course oxys.. Ive had a problem with these little fuckers in the past, really fucked my life up. What do you guys that have had problems in the past do to stay off? Suboxcone? Counseling? Ive said im done with this shit before and the next thing i know, im popping on a weekend and then every day. I understand i can no longer do that as i am an addict. Im clean now but not for long.  Dont ever touch these pills. Theyll fuck your life up...ive seen alot shit here in vegas that i wont post herw but let me tell you its fucking crazy out there man especially, with high unemployment....WOW.

This is why I invested in Purdue pharma,actavis, mallinckrodt/covidien and roxane/subutex/suboxone. made myself a legal millionaire. the cost of these drugs is through the roof even at the pharmacys a 80mg oxycontin tablet is roughly 14$ around 1350$ for 100ct bottle. and most prescriptions are usually at least 90 tablets. the 40mg oxycontin is the most prescribed and those are 7$ a piece. 700 per bottle. the actavis roxicodone is 110$ for 100ct at pharmacy suboxone is roughly 7$ a tab. very expensive stuff
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: deadz on August 21, 2011, 08:07:32 PM
This is a huge problem in the U.S. The problem is everyone is doing it. White, black, hispanic, Asian, Jew. Old, middle age, young. It doesnt matter. Docs hand them out like candy,, and they are worth alot on the street. Vicodin, percocet, roxis, and of course oxys.. Ive had a problem with these little fuckers in the past, really fucked my life up. What do you guys that have had problems in the past do to stay off? Suboxcone? Counseling? Ive said im done with this shit before and the next thing i know, im popping on a weekend and then every day. I understand i can no longer do that as i am an addict. Im clean now but not for long.  Dont ever touch these pills. Theyll fuck your life up...ive seen alot shit here in vegas that i wont post herw but let me tell you its fucking crazy out there man especially, with high unemployment....WOW.
Wiggs....reaching out to his imaginary internet friends to sort out his drug addiction. Do you really think this is the right route.

You're just going to keep popping pills. You're a weak minded individual plan and simple and you will not be able to sort this problem out

yourself. The only way for an addict such as yourself to overcome drug addiction is to seek out the help of a professional. Time to

start living in reality and stop living in the delusion that pills and weed provide. You have also shown a tendency for homosexual activity

in the past according to your own admittance. Wanting to have sex with a transexual is a form of homosexuality. As I mentioned, you

will need the help of a professional to sort out your problems. Good luck on your road to recovery.

Signed,

Your imaginary internet frriend
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: littleboyblue on August 21, 2011, 09:19:27 PM
This is a huge problem in the U.S. The problem is everyone is doing it. White, black, hispanic, Asian, Jew. Old, middle age, young. It doesnt matter. Docs hand them out like candy,, and they are worth alot on the street. Vicodin, percocet, roxis, and of course oxys.. Ive had a problem with these little fuckers in the past, really fucked my life up. What do you guys that have had problems in the past do to stay off? Suboxcone? Counseling? Ive said im done with this shit before and the next thing i know, im popping on a weekend and then every day. I understand i can no longer do that as i am an addict. Im clean now but not for long.  Dont ever touch these pills. Theyll fuck your life up...ive seen alot shit here in vegas that i wont post herw but let me tell you its fucking crazy out there man especially, with high unemployment....WOW.
  My friend is RX'd 1600 roxys, 550 morphine ms contin, 180 marinol per month from his spinal fusion surgery.  A lot of pills for sure.  Used to mainline oxys before the recipe was changed like crazy.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Parker on August 21, 2011, 11:10:40 PM
Ive noticed this is topic avoided on this boarding...Obviously there are others on this board that have problens and i thought i'd bring to light. Slingermann, myself, JNN, Unsung (pip) have had problems with this shit in the past.
The problems is when people start stealing from their folks or sotres, or pawning their folk's belongings and family heirlooms. Dudes selling their bikes, motorcycles, even cars. Meth chicks who use Oxy as well giving bj's with teeth that look like they have chewing on rocks.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: stuntmovie on August 21, 2011, 11:52:38 PM
I  ever met a pill I didn't like, but none of them have been any stronger than Bayer's aspiren ..... and my whole darm family has never had a need for a doctor's prescription as far as I can recall.

One old timer thanks the alcohol .... and lots of it, while others simply knock on wood and thank the Lord above.

I don't know if this has been mentioned above but a good number of well meaningful doctors write prescriptions that require another prescriptions to counter the ill effects of that first prescription .....  and on and on it goes until there in no more room in that medicine cabinet  in the bathroom.

One time a close friend of mine was hooked on pain killers as  a result of a gym injury to his lower back.

We took him fishing a mile or so off the coast of Waikiki , removed his back brace and threw his stash of pills overboard  and then threw him in as well .... and told him he'd have to swim back to the beach if he wanted to see the sun set that day or the next.

AND ..... He drowned !

NAH!  He didn't 'drowned'....

He swam back to the beach with us following far enough away so he wouldn't be encouraged to swim towards the boat.

A bit over an hour later we stood on Waikiki Beach watching hlm swim his last few yards and then slowly standing as his feet felt the sandy bottom of Waikiki Beach.

And as he proceeded to walk to shore with less and less boyancy he started crying because this was the first time in the past couple of years that he was able to walk erect without that damn leather and mrtal backbrace.

He was crying because he was happy. A grown man crying on Waikiki Beach is a seldom occurence and more than a few beach sunset watchers were overly concerned and tried to assist. But he just kept walking while we stood there and smiled.

But the big miracle was that those pain-killers were no longer needed .... but it did take him a few more days to realize that.

So....l  if you have friends who are in need of similar help, take them fishing and throw them in.

Sometimes it works!

Sometimes!
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 22, 2011, 12:16:22 AM
Doctor Dutch has lots of patients with painkiller related problems. Don't take that stuff for granted.

The safest is acetaminophen, which is (taken at the maximum prescripted dose) a far better painkiller than most people think. Ibuprofen can be taken if an inflammation is prominent, people who got stomach problems have to take some stomachprotector as well. Same for diclofenac. Overdosing can kill your kidneys and also the heart, but only if you are genetically vulnarable. Opioids are safe for short times, when the indication is acute heavy pains the addiction risk is usually slim, except for addiction-prone people.

If you want to workout with (slightly!) inflamed/painfull joints, take 400mg or maybe 600mg (at most) ibuprofen 1 hour prior to the workout, not afterwards. Don't use painkillers for DOMS, consider DOMS like a temporary war scar to be proud of. Be sure to distinguish DOMS from injury. If your injury is too heavy, don't train. Slap yourself in the face to fight the urge to exercise.

I have some experience in my work with painkillers, I've seen a lot of people suffering from wrong use.

Painkillers can be more dangerous than test, for sure.

take care my fellow iron warriors.

Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Meso_z on August 22, 2011, 12:17:35 AM
I  ever met a pill I didn't like, but none of them have been any stronger than Bayer's aspiren ..... and my whole darm family has never had a need for a doctor's prescription as far as I can recall.

One old timer thanks the alcohol .... and lots of it, while others simply knock on wood and thank the Lord above.

I don't know if this has been mentioned above but a good number of well meaningful doctors write prescriptions that require another prescriptions to counter the ill effects of that first prescription .....  and on and on it goes until there in no more room in that medicine cabinet  in the bathroom.

One time a close friend of mine was hooked on pain killers as  a result of a gym injury to his lower back.

We took him fishing a mile or so off the coast of Waikiki , removed his back brace and threw his stash of pills overboard  and then threw him in as well .... and told him he'd have to swim back to the beach if he wanted to see the sun set that day or the next.

AND ..... He drowned !

NAH!  He didn't 'drowned'....

He swam back to the beach with us following far enough away so he wouldn't be encouraged to swim towards the boat.

A bit over an hour later we stood on Waikiki Beach watching hlm swim his last few yards and then slowly standing as his feet felt the sandy bottom of Waikiki Beach.

And as he proceeded to walk to shore with less and less boyancy he started crying because this was the first time in the past couple of years that he was able to walk erect without that damn leather and mrtal backbrace.

He was crying because he was happy. A grown man crying on Waikiki Beach is a seldom occurence and more than a few beach sunset watchers were overly concerned and tried to assist. But he just kept walking while we stood there and smiled.

But the big miracle was that those pain-killers were no longer needed .... but it did take him a few more days to realize that.

So....l  if you have friends who are in need of similar help, take them fishing and throw them in.

Sometimes it works!

Sometimes!

Good post.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: The_Infidel on August 22, 2011, 12:49:22 AM
I've been prescribed a lot of Vicoden the last few years for some issues I had.  Bad dental problems and insane headaches.  I took them as needed and thankfully I never had any addiction issues with them.  I haven't had a reason to take them in the last year or so.  I was very carefull with them because of the risk of addiction.  I don't drink alcohol or use any recreational drugs so I was a little paranoid about them but I didn't have any trouble.

It was interesting to read about that dude who was trading pills with strippers.  Yes, very intersting indeed............

 ;D

Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: stuntmovie on August 22, 2011, 01:00:00 AM
DOC D, Thanks for what seems to me to be an intelligent response. I say 'seems' because I am uneducated when it comes to drugs of any sort, ..... but I have to admit that I have been associated with many drug users under many adverse conditions.

I mean conditions associated with death, suicide, murder, incarnation, and asylum commitments. And even hi-jacking a tank and seeing how fast it would go within a civilian environment  such as the main street through a small town.

I have often claimed to have seen it all, but as the years go by,  I tend to realize that the worst is yet to come.

Some occurences have been down-right funny such as the lady who threatened to commit suicide by jumping from her balcony onto the manicured lawn no more than 6 inches below her toes.  

A 6 minute drive with someone holding her down to an over-night in somf psycho ward and an early morning stomach pump solved that problem temporarily ...

But others have been not so funny and very serious ... such as the night a good friend OD'd and dropped to the street appearing dead as a door-knob.  

And he would have continued to look that way ... but another drugged out compatriot took a running leap and kicked him in the chest muttering something like, "Get up! You lazy bastard!".

And that crazy kick by his crazed-out buddy saved his life according to the medics.

Could tell you more about those crazy drug days but what I really meant to tell you is that ABSOLUTE FEAR is a great cure-all that has yet to be studied within the medical community.  

And to be literally SCARED SHITLESS drug free just might be the cure-all of all cure-alls in the not too distant future.

But it's definitely USELESS as a recreational drug!

Ask me. I know! But when it comes to drugs, I'm dumb as shit.

Been there! Done that! And in each and ever episode I was as sober and drug free as the provervial judge. And I ain't intending to be going back to the way things used to be.

Hell, I even turn off my phone when the sun goes down and never respond to a knock on the door when the sun ain't shining on it.

But I do have a shit-load of stories to tell even though I've never been a druggie.

I do wish the best to you guys doing your best for a successful recovery.

And I'll simply end by saying this .... All the people I've known in my lifetime who were heavily into a drugged up lifestyle are dead except for two who walk around like zombies.. And only one other appears o be well on the road to recovery after a few years locked up,

And that sole individual is the only one who called before sunset to say, "Thanks for your help, but never trust me again because even though they say I'm cured, I'll always be a junkie."

Good luck breaking free!
 

Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: chess315 on August 22, 2011, 01:11:25 AM
I can't even get 1 or 2 pills of codeine when my head feels like it's exploding due to tooth ache.
Never got any narcotics after surgeries like hernia surgery or pec tear repair either.

In the US it seems like they are prescribed when they wouldn't really be needed but here you (or I) can't get get it when they would really offer needed relief.
I have a hard time believing as educated as your are you can not hunt down a couple hydrocodiene lol
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on August 22, 2011, 01:22:09 AM
they give vico's out like they are pez. got some for a hemroid once (seriously). didnt make my ass feel any better, but i slept like a baby at night.

we have surrendered our minds to pill popping, scotch drinking, cigarette pushers


capitalism - economic system of peace  ::) 
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: dyslexic on August 22, 2011, 02:20:28 AM
You are right bro. I'm actually saving up my paid time off so I can go cold turkey. No way I can go to work and go through that at the same time. Suboxone is just switching addictions. Some people are better off on it though.


That's why I said "dependent" on your personality. You have to tough it out and tough it out fast. Most people don't have the luxury of taking time off of work to rehab real quick.

Some folks have never felt what it feels like to give up a bad habit either.


If you DO know what it feels like to give up a long-lasting highly addictive bad habit, then you may as well just go Cold Turkey.


2 weeks and the worst will be over.

Suboxone, you may never want to stop.

Methadone, 2 years and then you are forced to make a decision.

It all depends on how much of a hard ass you can be, knowing there is a light at the end of the tunnel.... A much better and brighter light.

In the end, it's worth the pain to quit. I don't give a shit what it is.
Title: Re: Prescription pain pills
Post by: whitewidow on August 22, 2011, 03:45:37 AM
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That's why I said "dependent" on your personality. You have to tough it out and tough it out fast. Most people don't have the luxury of taking time off of work to rehab real quick.

Some folks have never felt what it feels like to give up a bad habit either.


If you DO know what it feels like to give up a long-lasting highly addictive bad habit, then you may as well just go Cold Turkey.


2 weeks and the worst will be over.

Suboxone, you may never want to stop.

Methadone, 2 years and then you are forced to make a decision.

It all depends on how much of a hard ass you can be, knowing there is a light at the end of the tunnel.... A much better and brighter light.

In the end, it's worth the pain to quit. I don't give a shit what it is.
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It depends on how much you are taking! if you are taking 480mg of oxycontin you cant just go cold turkey you can have a seizure or stroke! Always taper down very slowly and you might need suboxone depending on how much you were taking. suboxone is very addictive thats why it should only be used for 21 days at most. If you are using just a small amount like 80mg a day for a few months you can go cold turkey but like I said if your dose is very high like 480mg oxycontin a day you have to taper off slowly and use either suboxone or subutex. I think suboxone is a poor choice just because your pretty much just trading drugs. subutex in a small dose for a few weeks should do the trick. even after that you will have urges and you probably will not feel 100% for awhile they say it takes half the time you have been using to feel normal meaning if you have been on oxycontin for a yhear it will take 6 months of being clean till you feel 100% normal. This is why prescription drugs are the best investment.3 years back I got hit by a drunk driver who was going very fast and ran a red light, I got T-Boned and my car spun 270 degrees I also almost flew out of the car. I was put on oxycontin and oxycodone for breakthrough pain. I was already had investments in the drug market wich was a good thing because I was given huge amounts of narcotics 240mg oxycontin and 240mg of roxicodone. I have been on and off for 3 years. I have a fracture in my T12 and herniated disc in my L4 and L5. my sciatica nerve flares up all day long and I also have blown discs in my neck. the pain killers just make me feel normal so i can still work out and live a normal life. The pills made me very euphoric only for a few months but like I said now they just make me feel normal. the lady had full coverage so I got a huge settlement twice as much as usual anytime you get hit by a drunk remember you are entitled to double the money you would usually get say if they were sober when they hit you.roxicodone is the most addictive pharmaceutical drug there is! if you binge on roxicodone 30mg bues for just 3-5 days you are likely to get hooked.LIKE TOO SHORT SAID"IT'S YOUR LIFE DONT BE STUPID THOUGH" ITS FUNNY HOW A PILL SO SMALL CAN TAKE OVER YOUR LIFE